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Donut
Member
07-31-2001
| Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 8:55 pm
I am giving it a chance but my first thoughts are to have doubts for a few reasons... First, if you dont like a coach but like the team, then it makes it hard to pick who you root for. eg.. want Boogie gone ASAP but first impressions liked his HGs best.. Second..It really messes with the natural formation of alliances as the teams are pretty much pressured to ally with each other Third, They should have not made the prize contigent on getting thru the whole season. All other twists have had an 'out' option and ended after a few weeks if they stink.. But i do find it kind of interesting that in a game where you never knew if someone was being truthful with you, this is a total change that assumedly the coaches are upfront with their teams, although i can imagine they might make up stuff to manipulate their members into acting how they want... Last, i think i wouldlve liked it better if Janelle allied with Dan against Brit and Boogie cuz now it feels like Mean GIrls vs Boogie and a neutered Dan..
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 5:00 am
Donut, I'm on the fence about the coaches. At first it looked like two games in one. Now it looks like 4 noms that can't go on the block for (estimating) 4 weeks. Four of them go in guaranteed they make it to jury? Have some of the stipends been increased.
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 8:45 am
I am on the fence, I like it because it forces them to play with people who they probably wouldn't even bother to get to know, and I don't care for it because it loses the natural alliances that would form. I don't understand if the coaches are going to be in the game at some point why they would be pushing to get rid of Dan, wouldn't they need the numbers when the other houseguests find out that they are in it.
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Scbarber
Member
06-08-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 8:58 am
Team concept is fine...if they chose their own teams. Mentoring is fine...if the goal of the mentor is to help everyone on their team have a chance to win. Now to what's actually happening... By choosing the HOH and someone else to leave the game, the "mentors" ceased to be be mentors or coaches and became part of the game. If, as rumored, they enter the game as an individual player in the future it would be totally unethical, even for an 'entertainment program, not a game show'. If I were a newbie houseguest I'd leave so fast and head to a lawyer's office that I'd just be a blur on the cameras. You cannot let 4 players work for 4 weeks, without a chance of being nominated, on eliminating their future competition. Even if the newbie houseguests knew about the 'twist', it still wouldn't be fair as they have no power to evict them. Right now the non-mentor players are simply pawns of the veterans
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Spunky
Member
10-07-2001
| Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 9:04 am
Eventually it will be necessary to neutralize the coaches game because conflict of interest will be greater later on. How are they going to do that I'm not sure but the players will see that if the coaches are too controlling it will hurt their games and not help them at all. It seems to me that as of now the coaches are influencing too much eviction decisions, although it could be the intent of BB this year, the coaches as the manipulators and not at all mentors.
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Flossiebebe
Member
09-01-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 9:09 am
I think the coaches as manipulators was the BB idea..but the players are catching on quickly. eg Frank and Willie.
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Reggiek
Member
08-12-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 9:15 am
So far, I like this coach twist. It complicates things enough so there is not a clear mob mentality. I'm interested to see the side alliances and how the coaches will try to control their players.
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Scribe
Member
08-16-2000
| Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 11:49 am
Not much so far. Only positive is I like seeing Brit and Janie again. But that is kind of balanced out by having to see boogie again.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 1:10 pm
I don't care for it at all, and agree with Scbarber's points. Also, it's just too complicated.
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Rn2b
Member
08-12-2011
| Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 11:30 pm
The coach thing is awful so far. I feel like we're just watching Boogie, Janelle, Britney, and Dan all over again. The new people have no chance, yet again. They don't even give some of them airtime. Tara has had no airtime. It's ridiculous. One newbie out the first show and another right behind? It's just horrible.
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Toolhound
Member
06-22-2007
| Monday, July 16, 2012 - 1:38 am
I love the coaches and teams concept. This pretty much stops floaters and throwing competitions the two things I hated about BB.
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Jade2
Member
07-12-2012
| Monday, July 16, 2012 - 4:02 am
I think it stinks, and they should call it what it is. The Boogie, Janelle, Britney, and Dan Show! They had their time in the sun,m I don't want to see them in with newbies. I hate when they bring people back, and it's not an all star show. It just makes the show all about them all over again.
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Lake_gal
Member
06-09-2004
| Monday, July 16, 2012 - 6:51 am
I don't like the way Brit and Janelle's teams have joined up and act like they are all HOH. It is like 8 people against the rest of the house. I want the players to start and realize they do not have to vote like their coach or team tells them. I much prefer when players vote for themselves and not by who the House is voting for. If Brit and Janelle's players win the first few HOHs it is going to be predictable and boring.
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Emm119
Member
07-12-2005
| Monday, July 16, 2012 - 7:23 am
I totally agree Lake. I would love to see one of the groups...ANY of the groups, play along with the mentors and then just basically throw their advice under the table and play their own game. First off, I can't believe anyone trusted Mike or Britney for that matter. Then to see both Janelle and Britney in the HOH telling Willie who he should put up. I really started thinking...is this the first year I won't be interested in BB? Please don't let someone else play your game...
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Monday, July 16, 2012 - 7:26 am
I want a Revolution! The newbies need to band together against these 'mentors', who obviously have their own agenda. The mentors have too much power. They should not allow any mentors in the HOH except the one whose mentoring that team. Plotting in a mentor-group setting reminds me of the Friendship, which doesn't sit well with me. And I agree that we are not getting to see the newbies as much as the mentors, so how can we root for any of them? I really hope that Janelle and Britney are only speculating about the mentors going into the game. That would just be wrong on so many levels. I will root for the first newbie houseguest who overthrows the 'regime'.

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Jeff33
Member
07-05-2009
| Monday, July 16, 2012 - 7:45 am
NO!!.. I hated it when they debuted the team or couples thing in BB6.. It should always bean individual thing
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Monday, July 16, 2012 - 7:45 am
I'll be interested to see how the first vote breaks down by group- Janelle's group especially, as they're the only group with all three people voting. If Janelle and Brit's groups all vote one way, that's a majority of 5 (and they can have one defection and still control the vote with Willie breaking a tie). I don't think that'll happen though- this will be the first chance for them to vote what is best for their game, not their coaches...I suspect there will be a lot of hinky vote accusations no matter who goes.
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Bd_cooper
Member
07-27-2008
| Monday, July 16, 2012 - 10:50 am
I couldn't agree more. I think the team concept and the same old tired faces stinks. I often wonder why the big wigs of nearly all enterprises take a good thing, and continually add and change things until they ruin it? It doesn't matter if it's a good TV series, a good car, or a show like Big Brother. Even Amazing race has started adding celebrities and controversial figures. Some one has sprinkled fairy dust of their heads so they believe we want to see this on the shows. I think we will accept it, but not many fans of BB wanted it.
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Caramella
Member
07-20-2002
| Monday, July 16, 2012 - 11:15 pm
The huge downfall about this season is that it feels like another way of Grodner awarding a veteran player with the big prize. Similar to last season when they brought back Rachel(and other previous players)in with all new people, but in the end the game seemed to be swayed in favor of a vet player winning. I don't think they want viewers to be bright enough to pick up on this because some of these vets are fan faves(ex. Janelle) and people are excited to see them back. I just feel that would be really unfair to the new players who were chosen to play the game. They've already evicted a player on the first night, now we've got two more newbies on the block while the vets are safe? Nah, not trusting this game, and by giving these vets all this power its really hurting the game. I tell ya, i'm so ready to see some of these newbies pick up on whats going on and start playing their own game, and skip over what Boogie, Janelle, Dan, and Brit are telling them. Thats the only way this game is going to be exciting. If they don't, we'll see a predictable game, and a Vet walking away with possibly 600k.
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Callasin
Member
06-21-2005
| Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 7:42 am
I don't like the team concept because I don't feel like we know how this is going to play out. One "twist" after the other makes it different each week. I could live with the teams if we knew the rules up front and didn't have constant changes.
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-21-2003
| Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 8:04 am
I agree with Callasin, I think the it's unfair to keep changing the rules. They need rules and then let the players plan it out accordingly. I feel like BB is trying to sway it towards a certain person when they change it up last minute.
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Tanzanite
Member
06-28-2005
| Friday, July 20, 2012 - 1:26 am
Scbarber Member 06-08-2005 Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 8:58 am Team concept is fine...if they chose their own teams. Mentoring is fine...if the goal of the mentor is to help everyone on their team have a chance to win. Now to what's actually happening... By choosing the HOH and someone else to leave the game, the "mentors" ceased to be be mentors or coaches and became part of the game. If, as rumored, they enter the game as an individual player in the future it would be totally unethical, even for an 'entertainment program, not a game show'. If I were a newbie houseguest I'd leave so fast and head to a lawyer's office that I'd just be a blur on the cameras. You cannot let 4 players work for 4 weeks, without a chance of being nominated, on eliminating their future competition. Even if the newbie houseguests knew about the 'twist', it still wouldn't be fair as they have no power to evict them. Right now the non-mentor players are simply pawns of the veterans What a novel and entertaining approach CBS took to alleviate the potential legal issues inherent in this CON involving former players as coaches of teams, who, after 4 weeks of safety, will get to enter the game as players. I an referring to manipulating the game by having a coach plant a seed into the mind of their player that the coaches would become players at some point. TV episode 4 July 19 was so entertaining.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Friday, July 20, 2012 - 6:03 am
I don't care for it at all. Setting up divisions from Day 1 messes things up. I agree, too, that the coaches are just manipulating the others for their own games.
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Tobor7
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, July 20, 2012 - 6:08 pm
No. I do not like it.
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Jade2
Member
07-12-2012
| Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 7:49 am
I don't like it at all. It's set up weighted so divisions will mess things up with regards to player interaction and alliances. BB is known for manipulating things, but this takes it to a whole other level. The players cannot play their own game, they have to worry about their team members and foolishly listening to their coaches. We already know someone on boogie's team will win, and we're not even half way through yet. No wonder it's so boring.
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