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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 6:46 am
I think DR does manipulate what is said! and have you noticed they don't show every ones comment? in the begging I didnt care for her this season and thought she was doing more damage, but I have to admit I like the new Rachel, She has showed she can play the game she can compete! and yes she gets snarky the same way as the others do and DID
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 6:58 am
Everybody I know who loves BB hated Rachel, all of them either love her now or like her more, none of them have the feeds, to me that says for most people public perception of Rachel has changed for the better.
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 7:08 am
Just what I was thinking also, Llkoolaid!
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Justmom2
Member
03-15-2008
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 7:14 am
I don't think Rachel is acting any differently in her goodbye message then others have acted. I believe Kalia had a good bye message that was on the same track as Rachel and I don't see anyone calling her childish. I think people are being especially hard on Rachel because of how she has acted in the past.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 7:39 am
I liked her good-bye message to Dani. And I bet a lot of non dani followers liked it too. It was far from being over the top in the context of other BB goodbye messages., imo.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 7:41 am
Ditto Lilfair. 
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 7:46 am
I agree also!
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-21-2003
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 7:46 am
Also she gave that message before having a heart to heart with Dani the following day. She even told Dani her message to her would be mean. I agree with those who say the DR people know what questions to ask to provoke the HG's to say or react in a certain way.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 7:49 am
ITA Miz, It ain't called BIG BROTHER for nothing... (I'm referring to the Orwell book the show is based on.)
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Flossiebebe
Member
09-01-2005
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 7:49 am
Overall because she's here longer this season she is getting to show the nicer aspects of her personality. Last year BB showed so much of her 'me and my man' ranting. Unfortunately she's not very flexible in her opinions of people. Once she doesn't like someone that's it!
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 8:04 am
I am liking the Rachel we have seen the past few weeks... but I don't doubt that will turn into her old puppy dog catty self as soon as she wraps her legs around Brendon.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 8:24 am
It's obvious to me that Rachel is one of those girls that sets other girls off when she's in her "Vegas" mode. She comes off as phoney. Brendon likes the "Vegas" Rachel and makes her come on too strong so he can look like the good guy who can tame her. I also think she pulls the stuff when he's around so she can get his attention. She seems to be much more comfortable in smaller groups which calms her down. Right now not only is Brendon gone but also those who have BIGGER personalities than she does. She is left with people she doesn't have to go over the top to impress as she is much better at the game than they are, so she is more relaxed. I wish she could be the grownup in the room when dealing with Brendon because I think she truly loves him. I also am liking this Rachel much more and would hope that once she sees how her behavior has changed the viewers perception of her that she will learn something about filtering how she behaves. I still shudder when I hear her goodbye messages and think she has to learn how to be a good sport when winning as well.
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Simplyde
Member
07-26-2011
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 8:38 am
We all have a lil bit of Rachel in us. If you say no then you'd be lying. I've enjoyed Rachel more since Jeff and Brendon are gone. She paired up with Jordan and that's the best I've seen her. She knew what she had to do and she did it. Jordan if anything has been Rachel's rock in this game when she's needed her. For that alone I hope she at leasts wins the 50 G's if not the 500G's.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 8:40 am
Great points EM... I also think Brendon likes the "Vegas Rachel" as he has never has been in the spotlight and now he has the girl which is the life of the party, the girl that walks into a room and all eyes turn toward. The meek Brendon thinks his street credit skyrocketed the day he started dating Rachel.
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Kaykohl
Member
05-10-2004
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 8:43 am
I think the Rachel we see now has always been Rachel. The difference in the way she’s acting, is because the different personalities in the house. Last season the Brigade’s main objective was the final four. Therefore it was in that groups best interest to stay away from the cattiness, thus never getting involved in what was going on between the women. Although, I do remember Matt saying to Brit and Monique once that they were really mean girls and Brit and Monique just laughed about it. Rachel wanted a BFF so badly last season, but Brit was having none of it. Unfortunately, Brendon became her enabler, he allowed her to vent and even encouraged it by also participating in her diatribes. This season, the house wasn’t as separated and everyone mingled with everyone. I think Shelly tried to form a clique against Rachel, but she never really fit into Dani’s group of Rachel haters and the rest of the house just didn’t get into the shunning business like previous seasons and continued talking and interacting with each other regardless of the noms. Rachel had a friend this season which is what she really wanted last season and Jordan’s friendship made a big difference in how she responded to people who she thought were targeting her for elimination. I think Jordan’s kindness has a heartening influence on Rachel that keeps her half way sane.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 8:50 am
I agree, but I'm not so sure Jordan feels the same way about Rachel. Listening to some of the things Jordan says about her, when she is sitting right there, makes me think that Jordan feels somehow superior to Rachel. I can't see this as a lasting friendship. They don't have the same kind of talks about life that Kalia and Dani did.
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Cruzlvr
Member
11-12-2003
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 9:11 am
Unfortunately, I don't think Jordan has many filters either. She and Rachel are a lot more alike than they may think. Both have no filters and say what is on their mind. If you ask Jordan what she thinks she is going to be honest and tell you the truth. It just doesn't come across as nasty because basically Jordan is naive and innocent. I believe she really has no clue that what she says can sometimes hurt. She just thinks she is being honest and lacks the tact of saying it a different way. That said, I also do believe that Jordan has come to like Rachel a lot and respects her. I in no way think that she thinks she is better than Rachel. Jordan has been brought up different in her way of thinking (ex. never show affection/ on tv etc.) and so it is hard for her to understand why someone else would do it. She has defended Rachel several times but also agrees when she thinks Rachel is out of line. Isn't that what a true friend does? The bad thing is, that in that house, what you say get magnified 10 fold and brought up 1,000 times. IRL it would be said once, that would be the end of it and they would move on. Rachel so used to people putting her down, and was used by the girls last season, so everytime someone (P/K) remind Rachel of anything Jordan says it just brings it back to home and creates the doubt again if Jordan really likes her and is on her side. eta: I don't know why the one word was red dotted. I was saying what Jordan says her grandfather call s e x.
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Biloxibelle
Member
12-21-2001
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 9:15 am
makes me think that Jordan feels somehow superior to Rachel. I didn't feel that way until the live show. I thought it was such a shame Jordan felt she needed to point out what a burden Rachel is. Not a word of praise, thanks or positive feedback for saving Jordan. I not really banking on all the new found Rachel fans and support. I think a good portion of them are only because she is now carrying Jordan. I feel for Rachel, if this is the case. She truly does want to be liked for being who she is, warts and all, just like all of us. I think that is why her Regan have such a solid friendship now. They like each other not in spite of the warts but, because of them.
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-21-2003
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 9:17 am
Mameblanche....don't get me wrong....I know this is Big Brother and that of course they will antagonize and provoke the HG's and I have no issues with them doing it either.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 9:19 am
Miz, I was agreeing with you.
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-21-2003
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 9:24 am
Ok....I misunderstood. My bad...LOL *hugs*
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 9:26 am
No worries, and hugs back atcha. FWIW, I miss the diary room sessions from season 1, where, IMHO, it seemed less hamfistedly manipulative and more observational curiosity as to what the hamsters were REALLY thinking and why, rather than the current canned soundbites. Or maybe I'm giving it a loftier purpose than it really was. LOL
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 9:30 am
Belle, I love your 9:15 a.m. post and ITA 100000%.
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Redpen
Member
07-24-2003
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 9:36 am
The other day I got into a fight with my best friend over Rachel. I told her it was ridiculous, Rachel is just a person in the BB house, but she wouldn't let up. She talked about her the same way she talks about Casey Anthony. And my friend is loud with an annoying laugh like Rachel. Go figure. To me, Rachel has been acting recently probably similarly to how she acts in real life in small groups when Brendon isn't around. Ragan is now her friend. At least one TVCH member has met her and said she was nice to her. I think this season has been it for me. I'll still be a fan and watch. But I will try to remember that the HGs are under stress and trying to win money. They are not monsters. If I were hiring employees, yes I would consider Rachel. I've worked with far worse people. She works hard when she has a goal. Some people won't even give her that credit.
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Biloxibelle
Member
12-21-2001
| Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 9:36 am
Thank you Mame .
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