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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 5:54 pm
I've heard him vent to Shelly in the mornings about how Jeff speaks to him and he doesn't like it. He isn't the kind of guy to say that to Jeff's face though. I remember once when Jeff was grilling him and Jordan kept thowing out stuff at him too, and I could tell he wanted to get up and leave them sitting there, but he stayed and he took it. As far as I know Shelly is the only one he's talked about this to. Jeff never went after Adam like he did Shelly and the funny part was that Adam was actually the one who had deals all over the house not Shelly. Until she jumped , she was loyal to them, unlike Adam.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 6:15 pm
Adam agrees with whoever is speaking to him. I've heard Adam agree that Kalia is this, Rachel is that. I've never thought Adam was so angry at Jeff that it was a major thing that must be discussed and brought up and made a major point of the game. Have you?
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Ark
Member
07-10-2001
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 6:21 pm
IF Adam ever got angry with Jeff, it wasn't angry enough to dessert his alliance with him. Even now Adam misses Jeff being there to be aligned with.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 6:27 pm
He misses Jeff because he's in the house with a bunch of women who just might start their periods this week. I'd be missing Jeff too if I was him. I doubt he's missing Jeff because of game, his hands are squeeky clean, they always are.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 6:30 pm
All I know is that Adam has said (on BBAD) that he would be friends with Jeff after the game, so he can't be all that upset with him. Admittedly, I don't see a lot since I don't have the feeds, but since he said this to Porsche I don't know why he would lie to her about that.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 6:33 pm
I miss seeing Jeff without a shirt on. Adam's a horrible liar he lowers his head and gets all red faced hehe.
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Oliviamimi
Member
05-30-2009
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 6:38 pm
I saw that clip of Jeff grilling Adam. Adam seemed like he was going to bite his tongue off. He wanted to say something but thought it would endanger his game. Jeff is full of confrontal bluster. If he doesn't like something he states it head on and doesn't mince words. I had a neighbor from Chicago that was much like that. Nice guy that would do anything for you and SAY anything to you. I do think Jeff is like my neighbor, loud and intimidating. I don't like it but I don't think he means harm, just the way he is. Personally prefer Jeff than the behind your back snicker and lies.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 6:38 pm
Adam likes Jeff and Jordan so much that he said he intended to play his game one way but then he met them and said I wanted to play like them. I liked the way they played. I'd be fine going to the end staying with my alliance and fighting it out. If I lost at least I stayed with my alliance and it was fair. If I lose oh well at least I will feel good about how I've played.
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Me_poster
Member
03-02-2010
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 7:32 pm
i for one have not seen anything wrong with shelly's game play. i am still rooting for her. sure she has made some mistakes but they ALL have. i absolutely adore jordan, she is my favorite female hg ever. but i don't want her to win. i am rooting for shelly and i will until she leaves. if shelly knew all the hate being thrown around at her family (especially that wonderful poster (not on this board) who wanted josie kidnapped raped and murdered) she would leave. she is going to be so crushed and hurt an(really, what does anyone get out of irrational sick emotional attachment to a game?) i hope everyone who "hates" her get's whatever sick joy they are looking for.(again not here, just venting here) it says more about them then it does about shelly. when jordon and jeff find out about this "hate" (or any of the hgs) they will most likely be her strongest supporters as far as bb is concerned, i am pretty sure they are going to be heartbroken over over this irrational unbelievable hate. a few bad apples have really ruined the game for me this year. this is the only board i can go to for enjoying my summer fun as the site has pretty strick rules, but even then at times i just shake my head and walk away. oh well there is always next year. Go SHELLY!
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 7:59 pm
Well said Me_Poster. She has played hard and tried to stay loyal. I wish someone could tell me what lies she has told about Jeff or Jordan. She did not know about the DE, and knew she was going to be enemy #1 to Jeff and Jordan for trying to keep Dani, but they were offering her something Jeff wasn't. Voting Jeff out just kept her from getting beat up by one of them instead of 2. Jordan would have been angry with her and acted the same way even if Jeff had stayed. He would have insisted that she end her relationship with Shelly. He kept telling her he hadn't explored other options, but we know he had a final 3 with Rachel. He never intended to be loyal to Shelly. Other than kissing their ass, she played her game with them and Adam. Her and Adam are only saying things about each other right now because one of them is going to be evicted.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 10:33 pm
Well said, Earthmother! Jeff and Jordan were stringing Shelly along, as they were Adam. Dani finally opened Shelly's eyes and Shelly did what she had to do to further her game. She may be out this week -- but it will be because she is seen as a serious threat because she plays the game hard. If Adam stays, it is because he is relatively meaningless in the game.
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Maineiac
Member
08-24-2009
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 3:57 am
I disagree with you What5555. Shelly is going home this week because of her betrayal and the fact that none of them can trust her. Not because she is a serious threat. They all know she doesn't win anything. Shelly did what she had to do to further her game. Ironically she ended up shortening her game rather than furthering it.
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Biloxibelle
Member
12-21-2001
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 4:17 am
Ironically she ended up shortening her game rather than furthering it. Not really. Production did that when they came up with a with a way for Rachel to save Jordan, along with herself
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Maineiac
Member
08-24-2009
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 4:31 am
Biloxibelle, I'm not one that believes productions is trying to further Rachel or Jordan's game. I believe they had PB planned for F6(partners again). It was by chance that Porche was HOH and Rachel and Jordan paired up. If Jordan had pulled off the HOH win, put Shelly and Kalia on the block and paired up with Rachel and gave her the $5000... would there still be cries of production interference?
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Darclyte
Member
07-11-2005
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 5:35 am
I'll co-sign that, Maineiac.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:08 am
We'll probably never know for sure but I find it awfully hard to believe that they planned this twist ahead of time. It makes no sense to go back to pairs this late in the season plus it so strongly favored one of the players (Jordan) and it likely put the final nail in Shelly's game. Without the twist it's likely that it would be Jordan and Adam on the block right now with Shelly helping to determine who goes. Instead, Shelly is nominated and likely leaving. I'm fine with BB trying to keep things interesting but this is very heavy handed manipulation.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:14 am
The nominations hadn't taken place when PB was opened. There was no guarantee that Porsche would put up R/J AFTER opening the box, so production had no way of knowing for sure PB would save them. Seems to me if TPB wanted PB to save R/J, they would have had Porsche open it AFTER the nominations.
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Tissy
Member
07-28-2003
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:17 am
If they were aware of the twist - why did`nt JC make some reference to it on thurs ? No mention of couples returning - no clues etc., Ironically she ended up shortening her game rather than furthering it. There is no way of saying what the outcome would have been had Jeff stayed
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Maineiac
Member
08-24-2009
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:18 am
Jimmer, what if Porche or Kalia had won POV and kept the noms the same. Then how is PB favoring Jordan?
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:20 am
If the game was really fixed they would had found a way to keep Jeff in the game.
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Toolhound
Member
06-22-2007
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:21 am
I think if production is doing their job they knew who Porsche was going to nominate. I knew who she was going to nominate and I don't get paid. I have watched Big Brother since day One with the feeds and I believe this was one of the worst cases of production tampering I have seen.
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Tissy
Member
07-28-2003
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:23 am
If Jordan had pulled off the HOH win, put Shelly and Kalia on the block and paired up with Rachel and gave her the $5000... would there still be cries of production interference? Maybe from some J/R fans 
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Maineiac
Member
08-24-2009
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:23 am
No, we have no way of knowing the outcome if Shelly hadn't campaigned to keep Dani. But I would say anything would be better for Shelly then where she is sitting right now.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:26 am
Toolhound, they may have known who Porsche wanted to nominate, just as the rest of us did. But how did they know that Porsche wouldn't change her nominations AFTER opening PB? And like Maineiac said, how would they know for sure that Kalia or Porsche wouldn't win POV?? IF production wanted to ensure that PB would save Rachel/Jordan, they would have had Porsche open PB after the nominations... Even then, they still couldn't be 100% sure it would save them because Kalia or Porsche could have won POV.
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Maineiac
Member
08-24-2009
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:26 am
Exactly Tissy. So production is only interfering if your favorite is on the block...right? LOL
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