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Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Now if I could just get you to agree with me politcally Lexie, we could be BFFs...lol

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 8:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
My money is on Dani, Tissy. She is a very logical player and she knows this game in and out. She knows how to make deals and she makes them one week at a time. She only needs to make a one week deal J/J/A/S, whichever one is HOH and she is golden. She saved Shelly and she would be smart to continue to keep her close, without telling her too much. J/J both know that if they don't deal with her and she is there the next week, one of them will be up and out. She knows full well that Jeff doesn't always play with logic, and more so with emotion. She is well aware of his paranoia because he can't read her.

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Jeff can read her allright!! Daniele plays one week at a time and that's smart because all she needs is that week's safety when she can't compete in HOH, then she wins again and doesn't care who will fall. If it's Jeff the better for her but she has control of most of them anyway. If Kalia wins the next HOH she is set to go for a long haul...

With Brendon gone and Rachel left to die, Jeff is doomed anyway, JJ are the only couple left and the main target, the gloves are off.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
Mods I hope this doesn't end up being a repost again. I made a post and it didn't show up so here goes.

EM, we agree lol. Dani is a very logical player and she does know this game inside and out.

I believe she should have gotten rid of Jeff first because he has ties with both Adam and Brendon.

What I think would be the smartest move for both Dani and Rachel is to team up.

Rachel is probably gonna be too upset and angry when Brendon goes, so I hope she doesn't win hoh this week. I hope it goes to one of JJSA, Dani and Kalia get put up, Dani wins pov, Kalia goes home.

Rachel and Dani would make an awesome team.

Wally
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08-13-2011

Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 9:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wally a private message Print Post    
so except for Rachel, is it in everybody's best interests to vote out Brendan? (or maybe it's also in Rachel's best interests for him to be evicted so she can play her own game?)

is there anything to be gained from ousting Adam? and keeping Brendan?

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
Dani wants Brendan out and will deal with Rachel..Dani wants Kalia to get rid of Jeff for her, despite her deal with JJ and she can blame it on Kalia..

Dani has positioned herself with Rachel, Kalia, JJ and Shelly for next week...Then hopes to win HOH.

I suspect that Dani wants to be in the final 2 with either Rachel or Kalia and then can make her case that she was the brains behind scene... and she would be correct.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 9:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
Best for Dani and part of the corn jury?

Dani takes Kalia/Newbie to final two in order to keep the newbies to three votes.

Wally
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08-13-2011

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 1:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wally a private message Print Post    
So, what would be the smartest way for Jeff to play his HoH cards this week?

What move(s) best strengthens his and Jordan's game, while weakening/narrowing that of his enemies/emenies and/or alliance-mates/truce-mates?

What can/should the other members of the house do to help themselves/mates?
What can/should the other house members do to hurt other players?

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 8:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
Jeffs' best move would be to talk to Dani and assure her that she is not the target, but he is putting her up "because" she has the veto pass.

He believes she will win the veto and take herself off.

Jeff puts up Dani and Kalia with either being the target.

If Dani wins veto, he puts up Porsche and they vote out either Porsche or Kalia.

If Dani doesn't win the veto, and Dani and Kalia are still on the block they can decide if Dani is voted off.

One way or another, Jeff has to get rid of Dani and she's one vote on the jury.

Dani would not hold it against Jeff once on the jury because she is after all...all about game.

There is a problem lurking and JJ do not see it.

Adam wants Jeff to take out Dani and Adam wants to take out Jeff.

Adam has said many times that he doesn't want a re-run to win.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 8:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Csnog, I think that would be Jeff's best move. We'll see if it works out that way.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Adam wants Jeff to take out Dani and Adam wants to take out Jeff.

Adam has a bit of a problem there in that he needs Dani to stick around to get out Jeff...

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
Not really.

Adam is banking on a Before or After Comp. plus he was studying the HG's pictures and Dani asked him what he was doing.

Adam told her he was looking at their lips and eyes and then realized that Dani knew what he was studying for.

Adam wants Dani out..He laid it hard on Jeff last night.

Adam knows that Jeff can't compete next HOH and he knows the order of comps somewhat.

They know a DE is coming.

Adam has no qualms taking out Jeff as it would be considered a big move.

Snoopsmom
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02-19-2003

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Snoopsmom a private message Print Post    
Csnog, I agree and posted the same scenarion in the HOH comp thread last night, minus the Adam factor. For Jeff not to put up Dani when she can play for veto anyway would not be a good move. Dani has a great chance to win the veto, and if she removed Kalia or Porsche Jeff would have to put up one of his own.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Csnog... yes I agree and saw that as well... But I don't think Adam wants to be the one to get Jeff out. Jeff is really one of the few that consider Adam to be in his alliance. If Adam turns on Jeff he looses faith from Jordan and Shelly... and it would play into the hands of 'tho other side'

Lostfan
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03-10-2010

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lostfan a private message Print Post    
What if Jeff puts up Dani and Kalia and porsche wins the veto and takes dani off - still in the same boat

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Lost ... same vote yes, but it is guaranteed that Dani can play... not the same with Porshe

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
They will all want final with Rachel, as she is the most disliked in the game. You know that automatically gives her one vote though. If they vote personally then Jordan, Jeff or Adam will win. If they vote stategically then Jeff, Dani, Shelly or Rachel will win. I don't see how anyone would vote for Kalia or Porche, unless they start playing the game. Really the only thing Kalia has done is win HOH, and then she totally wasted it. Porche talks, eats and sleeps, not much to go on imo.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
It's coming down to not having sides.

Shelly is playing both sides still no matter what she says.

Adam is also but remains center..There is much more to Adam than people think.

Adam has Porsche and Shelly when he wants to control the vote so he doesn't want Porsche to go.

Adam is also thinking that he will win a HOH using what he has studied.

We are also leaving out Rachel in this scenario.

Despite people not liking Rachel she has a handle on the game.

Jeff would be wise to not use Rachel as a pawn and at least listen to her thoughts.

She thinks better with Brendan out of the game.

Rachel could very well win the veto.

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
If he uses Rachel as a pawn he is living dangerously. Far too many would love to put her out, especially those who aren't playing a good physical game. Others want to keep her to keep the target off their backs, but depending on who would be up with her it would be a crap shoot. Jeff won't risk it. He would be smart to tell Dani that he is using her as a pawn, to get out Kalia or Porche. If Dani wins then she has to use the veto on herself which leaves him an option of Kalia or Porche. Trying to back door her is dangerous because if she wins she pulls down one of her girls and then she is also safe. Jeff has to really think this through, but it could go either way.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
They will be in Jeffs' ear all day trying to have Jeff put Rachel on the block even as a pawn.

Let's hope that Jeff has a talk with Rachel and Jordan figures out what they're doing.

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Right now they all have to fight to stay in the game, without causing themselves too much damage. I would think it would be smarter to play for final 2 and not just the big prize. Final 2 is the most important place to be right now if you plan to win anything, since you don't know how the jury will vote. Some don't vote with their heads but with their hearts and just like with Jordan's win, she was smart to take Natalie, even though I would have rather seen Kevin take second place, because I didn't want Natalie to get anything for her nasty game. Voting against someone based on not wanting them to get any money isn't always the way to go when you are making the decision for final two if you want a chance to win the whole enchilada.

Callasin
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06-21-2005

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Callasin a private message Print Post    
Jeff needs to put Dani up to invalidate her veto pass and to try and get her out. Whether he tells her she is a pawn or not she is going to think he put her up because she thought about backdooring him weeks ago.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
Well EM, I only see two people thinking about final 2 right now.

Adam and Dani.

The rest are thinking about surviving.

And Adam has no qualms about taking out Jeff at this stage.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
It's a tough call- even though he doesn't know it, Jeff is in serious trouble next week- Jordan might be the only person who can win HOH and not consider putting Jeff up in the double eviction...

A lot of people will have to start to make some crucial decisions this week as to who they want to take to the last part of the game...

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Jeff knows he in trouble next week; he's known he's been a target since he walked in the door. He should stick with the move he and Jordan talked about in the hammock a few nights ago: put up Dani and Kalia, and in his speech tell Dani that she gets to play for POV anyway, but this guarantees she won't take Kalia off the block. Then he will tell Kalia that he told her that if she put him up, she would be his target. There is no 'safe' move for him this week.

As for final two, as long as Jordan is in the game, she's the only one he will consider to go with to the end.