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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Big Brother USA ARCHIVES: Big Brother 13 - Part 5: Has BB finally jumped the shark?: Archive through September 02, 2011 users admin

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M4nd33
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07-12-2011

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send M4nd33 a private message Print Post    
I loved 1984!

As for the topic at hand. I don't think it's jumped the shark. As someone said above, it's important to try new things so people don't get sick of seeing the same old thing. That means adding new twists, some that will work and some that won't.

I'm looking forward to the next season, and hope for more shocks and surprises. I wasn't sure how I felt about this season myself, and was bummed when ED had to leave. (I know I'm one of few that actually liked him). It was interesting to see the dynamic change in the house so much from week to week!

M4nd33
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07-12-2011

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 7:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send M4nd33 a private message Print Post    
I also agree that the game isn't fixed. Yes, some competitions favor others, but there is a good chance the competitions are thought up ahead of time. It would be a big waste of time and money to try and come up with something new each and every week, without having much of it planned well before the season begins.

The diary room is going to say things to the house guests to get their motors turning. That doesn't mean people are told to vote one way or another, and even if they are, it doesn't mean they are required to. Half of the awesome that is Big Brother is the manipulation in the DR. I just wish we the viewers were privy to some of that manipulating. =)

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 7:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I have no problem with the PD being played, I just think it should be played earlier in the game as to not totally take away someone's game at the very end. Porche took the prize but it's not like she will have to pay for that choice, which I have always thought was the idea. The timing was skewed and Shelly paid the price. I'm not happy about it, but it is what it is. I think there might be a wave of screams if Jordan had to pay the price and not had a chance to come back at Porche.

Lostfan
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03-10-2010

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 7:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lostfan a private message Print Post    
These comps ALWAYS have physical comps in the BB game - if people arent "fit" enouph to compete in them, than that is not BB's fault - I'd say before coming onto the show- either be really good at knowing the BB game and learning and memorising events within the game so you can win the Q&A comps or get in physical shape to be able to win the physical comps -

If you have neither talent than maybe BB isnt for them

Rachel is NOT good at Q&A - but she works out everyday in that house and is fit enouph to win these comps - if porshe had played she aslo would have been good -

Kalia sits in the house all day and eats
Adam sits all day and smokes
Jordan just isnt that good at anything- but she trys and she has come in 2nd pretty often-

It was not geared for Rachel to win- it was just one of the many physical comps within the game

Not fixed- just the game is touph for some "some of the time" and touph for some al of the time. :-)

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Who got the PD box and had the work out with Jessie? That was too funny!

Kitkat
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08-23-2008

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 8:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitkat a private message Print Post    
I have to agree with GAL! I hate having retreads in BB and in Survivor. There are certainly enough people out there wanting to be on these shows to fill 5 years worth of programming.

In addition, it is time BB gave them some new scripts. I'm sure every one of us can give the nomination/veto speech. It is also time to come up with some new and challenging competitions. If they insist on keeping the old competitions, then they need to change the order in which they are played. The hamsters should not be able to plan and study for a certain known competition.

Govols
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07-18-2005

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Govols a private message Print Post    
I've enjoyed this season. I never get tired of JeJo.
Not having the lines drawn in the sand made for good drama.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
It's tired. When the big theme is "expect the unexpected" and we can have such a high rate of prediction, see the in-yer-face manipulations that most definitely favor certain hg, and the hg themselves can easily figure out what's coming next... that's tired. The scripted DRs just make it worse IMO.

I think it actually jumped the shark about 2 seasons back when it started becoming more about the hg than the game. Here AND there.



Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 8:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I don't believe that the show is fixed or that competitions are designed for a particular person. But I am a fan of 1984 and I wish that BB would take more of an oligarchical dictatorship role rather than what appears to a friendship role with the players.

Chere
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08-10-2005

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 8:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
No. BB is nothing more than pure cheesy, summertime entertainment. To think BB should be anything more is ridiculous, imo.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
I, too, am enjoying this season. I also know there is interference from production...but that's Big Brother.

If I didn't think it was good, or I wasn't enjoying it, I would simply not watch!

Maineiac
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08-24-2009

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 9:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maineiac a private message Print Post    
I don't believe BB is fixed at all. Yes it's manipulated but not fixed.

Two vets were aready sitting in the Jury House(Brednon&Dani) when we had HOH for the DE. If they really wanted to "fix" it for a vet, the challenge would have been endurance, which would be geared towards Jeff and Rachel. But instead it was a Q&A, which everyone knows Rachel and Jordan are no good at.

While Dani was on the block, the POV was a puzzle, which production may have been thinking was perfect for a Dani win. But you've got Shelly and Adam throwing the comp and Dani didn't do so good and let Jeff win.

They is no way for production to fix the outcome. They can try and set up certain things that may help a certain HG but there is no guarantee how things will turn out.

I have watched EVERY season and will continue to watch as long as they keep coming back. BB always makes great summer time tv.

Rosem4243
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06-27-2005

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 9:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
I agree, Bon. It kinda makes me mad that the HG know the names of the people in the DR.

Those people should be known as Big Brother - ONLY!

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
Not in my opinion. I enjoyed this season just as much as any season.

The only thing I would change is that I would bring the food comps back and get rid of the slop/havenots.

This is my summer addiction and I love it!

I hope BB is around for many years to come.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 9:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
We get this every year. And no, it hasn't JTS. In fact the last couple of weeks have been very enjoyable IMO (especially the double eviction ep and the stuff around it).

And in most seasons we tend to have a lull about this time since we can pretty much figure out the final 2 and who's probably going to win. This year is different, as there are so many different scenarios that are just too close to call.

And the viewers have been enjoying it too- they've been up about 5% in the ratings this season, (even after adjusting for show pre-emptions), and the 18-49 numbers are the best in almost 5 years.

Way2witchy
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09-07-2006

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Way2witchy a private message Print Post    
I love the show. It wouldn't be summer without BB and no one would be more disappointed that me if it were to end.
That being said, each year the show seems more predictable, with comps being so blatantly geared toward certain HGs and away from others. This last comp is a perfect example. I've heard people say that they didn't even stay up to watch the feeds come back on because it was so obvious that Rachel was the only HG who could possibly win that comp. A Q&A comp would have been much more fair and less predictable. It would have had viewers anxiously waiting to hear the outcome. Remember when it used to be that way?
People say that there is no "fixing" and give Jeff not finding the clown shoe as an example. And that there were already 2 vets in the jury house. But, as I see it, it looks like Rachel and Jordan are production's choice for F2. So the other vets are expendable.
When viewers can predict the outcome of a comp, and don't even look forward to seeing who actually won there's a problem with the way the show is being produced. That is how viewers get turned off.
It will be interesting to see the ratings next year. Especially if Jordan is a 2 time winner... when she was carried through both seasons.
I hope I'm wrong. I hope BB goes on forever. It has become so much a part of summer for me for all these years. I just wish that CBS would regroup the production staff and start fresh.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
It would be nice if they could change up the competitions so that the HG's couldn't predict them like they have been able. Survivor has several if not all new tasks each season, would be great if BB did that.

They just need to have a second set next to the backyard like they did in Australia, then they could do all sorts of stuff and wouldn't have to have lockdowns!

Fredi
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04-01-2008

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 1:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fredi a private message Print Post    
I agree, Way. I do wish BB would stop matching buff players with every day body types. How can anyone compete wth great big guys in perfect shape? It's just not fair or right. I want to see 14 regular people for next year- no work out jocks.

Way2witchy
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09-07-2006

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 1:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Way2witchy a private message Print Post    
Yes, Fredi, more and more they are using jocks and models and actors on BB. They should stick with average people, who we can all relate to.
My son is a model. And his agent had set up an interview for him to try out for BB. I was so much against it. I don't want to see any of my loved ones picked apart on all the boards, like we see happen to all the HGs.
My son's interview was supposed to be Apr 15. As fate would have it he was in a horrific car accident in the early morning hours of the 15th. He was in a coma for 6 weeks and after many surgeries he has a long recuperation ahead of him. So that's my BB story.
As much as I love the show, I only want to watch stranger. I couldn't take the stress.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
So sorry, Witchy. That's an awful thing for you and your son to go through.

Maineiac
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08-24-2009

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 2:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maineiac a private message Print Post    
Way2witchy, sorry about your son.

Who are actors on the show?

Maineiac
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08-24-2009

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maineiac a private message Print Post    
It was quite obvious the comp where they had to run up the slippery lanes and fill the glass bowl with liquid was perfect for Jeff.

I don't remember seeing that much discussion about it being "fixed" for Jeff to win. At least not as much as this comp.

Way2witchy
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09-07-2006

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 2:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Way2witchy a private message Print Post    
Thanks. We had a really tough few months.
Maineiac, this season Jeff is an actor. I can't recall everyone else from other seasons. But maybe it's more accurate to say that they are hopeful actors looking for some exposure. Can't blame them, I guess.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 2:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I was fairly disappointed in this season's retreads coming back but it's turned out to be a pretty good season. Watching Rachel grow into this awesome BB player with Jordon by her side just makes me smile.

The twists and turns of the game isn't geared to any one person or side. But then again I don't see conspiracies around every corner.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 2:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Lilfair I'd like to cosign your post. :-)