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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Big Brother USA ARCHIVES: Big Brother 13 - Part 5: Shelly Shelly Shelly: Archive through August 31, 2011 users admin

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Toolhound
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06-22-2007

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toolhound a private message Print Post    
They may not be 100% sure but it was a pretty safe bet. Also the POV game was slanted to J/R the rest are all fat <>

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Maineiac, I couldnt had said it better!

Maineiac
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08-24-2009

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maineiac a private message Print Post    
Tissy, I haven't heard any Rachel/Jordan fans crying about the show being fixed when Porche or Kalia won HOH.

The last 6 HOH's have gone like this:

Dani
Kalia
Dani
Jeff
Kalia
Porche

The "mean girls" have controlled 5 out of the last 6 HOH's. I don't hear anyone complaining about it being fixed.

So anytime the show leans in Jeff, Jordan or Rachel's favor it's fixed? Hmmmmm

Maineiac
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08-24-2009

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maineiac a private message Print Post    
They may not be 100% sure but it was a pretty safe bet. Also the POV game was slanted to J/R the rest are all fat <>

Toolhound, are you forgetting the HOH where Kalia lasted as long as Dani on the skis and then just threw it to Dani. Jordan was out early and Porche fell just before Kalia.
Both Porche and Kalia could have easily lasted just as long as Rachel in endurance.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Well of course they couldn't be 100% certain but they enormously increased the likelihood of Shelly being nominated. Porsche had no reason to nom Shelly. The only reason she nominated her is she had no other option.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck ... We have a duck here! My comment has nothing to do with whether or not I like Jeff and Jordan. In fact, I'd find a Jordan win rather amusing.

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I agree Jimmer. It was just too coincidental for me. Jordan and Shelly have both been my favorites from the beginning, so neither scenario would have made me happy, but at least it would have been in their hands.

Zgoodgirl
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08-22-2003

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 7:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zgoodgirl a private message Print Post    
The ski endurance required standing on skis that moved from side to side. From the conversations of this last comp, it required hanging onto something.

I believe if that was the case, where you had to carry your own body weight, there was no way in Heckonopolis that Kalia or Porsche would be able to last as long as Rachel.

But that doesn't mean that I believe that it was slanted toward J/R. But then again I wanted them to win. If it didn't favor them, I have might have felt that way, lol.

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
They had time to think this through since no one knew about the return of the couples thing. By this time in the game the lines are already drawn. They should have pulled names out of the POV bag to couple up with.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 8:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I'm sorry, but there are just too many variables to think that they purposefully slanted the game to favor Jordan.

P didn't have to open the box. She could have changed the nominations, all of them competed for POV.

I just don't see a conspiracy here. I think ya'll watch too much tv.

Frogichik
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06-11-2002

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Frogichik a private message Print Post    
The "mean girls" have controlled 5 out of the last 6 HOH's. I don't hear anyone complaining about it being fixed

Porsche and Dani's HOH's were nullified by twists

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 8:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
EM I agree that the pairs should have been random rather than predetermined. And it would have spiced things up.

Maineiac
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08-24-2009

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maineiac a private message Print Post    
Porsche and Dani's HOH's were nullified by twists


We could say Jeff's HOH was nullified by a twist because he walked right out the door behind Dani. If he had known about the DE in advance, he might not have put Dani up. Just like if Kalia had know about the HG voted back in she might not have put Lawon up.
See how you can put a spin on every single thing that happens in the house. LOL

Toolhound
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06-22-2007

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toolhound a private message Print Post    
I think it was easy for production to know Porsche would open Pandoras box. Every person offered a box has opened it.

Big Brother picked the teams to play the couples twist they added.

The POV from how the HGs have described was a holding up your body weight. No one but Rachel could have one it.

These are just what I see and I could care less who wins so it is not because I like any of them.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Maybe someone can confirm this but I heard that they didn't give Porsche her letter from her Dad until after she had made the decision to open Pandora's Box. So she felt even more pressured to open it thinking it involved something to do with her Dad.

Assuming Porsche had all these options what could she have done differently. Obviously, not open the box. But once the box was opened, would different nominations have been better?

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
The twist...are we in the wrong thread? The PB only benefited Jordan, to be fair, since Rachel won POV, she would have saved herself. So, PB was really to benefit Jordan.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Every competition favors one type of person. Some favor strength, some favor endurance, some favor quick responses, some favor hand to eye coordination, some are better for smaller people, some for bigger people.

The only competition I could think of that does not slant towards a particular type of person would be to draw something out of a hat. And even then I bet somebody would complain because they were last!

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
08/26/11 12:19 AM

Porsche on her HOH CD... Rihanna...She's reading her HOH Letter.



Porsche picked Kalia which we saw on Sundays show, then there was a few moments and Rachel asked Jordan to be her partner.

If Shelly or Adam had stepped forward a little sooner and asked Rachel ...Who knows?
Shelly and Jordan were not talking to each other at that time.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 10:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
No matter what they do, there is still a level of unpredictability, that's my point.

They sent Brendan back, he went right back out again. (they did that with the very popular Kaysar too)

Everyone thought they were manipulating HGs to keep Dani. She's gone.

I don't doubt they do some things that will increase ratings. I also don't doubt that they can't control everything.

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 10:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
That's why I would have preferred pulling names out of the pov bag. What if Shelly and Jordan had been paired together? I think they could have avoided a lot of pain and anger by spending time along working together. I know some will tell me I'm wrong, but it's my opinion.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Personally, I go the route of Maya Angelou, when someone shows you who they are, believe them.

Shelly has shown her true colors. There's a need to be civil, but not to work things out.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Karuuna, that is one of my favorite sayings !!!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Maybe I'm completely wrong but I don't think Shelly deliberately planned in a premeditated way to deceive and manipulate Jeff and Jordan. I think she genuinely likes them a lot (and I am using the present tense). She simply was trying to win a game for herself and her family. This game does funny things to people.

Maineiac
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08-24-2009

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maineiac a private message Print Post    
I agree Jimmer, I don't think Shelly pre-planned to decieve and manipulate JJ.
BUT, I don't like the way she finally made a play and did decieve them.
I also don't like the way Shelly tried to play the victim after Jeff walked out the door.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 11:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, while I agree with you, I also think that people with strong prohibitions against betraying their friends are less likely to, even in this game.

But even if you are accurate, that Shelly is acting totally out of character because of the game, then there still is no reason to make up with her *in the game*. Perhaps afterwards.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Well I don't think that Shelly is acting totally out of character. I just think that with some people the pressure cooker of this game brings forward some undesirable characteristics that would likely not come into play in real life.

And I agree that there is no need for Jordan to make up with Shelly during the game - other than I think there is an extremely good chance that Shelly will vote to give Jordan the money if they are on reasonably good terms by the end and Jordan gets to the final two. Which is a pretty good reason. So Jordan shouldn't burn that bridge.