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What555456
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06-14-2005

Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 10:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Adam ain't gonna use the veto. He has spent the entire season star stuck and not upsetting the retreads he is so enamored of -- in fact helping them every step of the way. He's not about to go against them now.

Leroy17
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08-01-2010

Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 10:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Leroy17 a private message Print Post    
I think those claiming Adam can't win if he uses the veto and gets Jordan out are not thinking clearly. Against Rachel that's probably true, but against Kalia he's likely to get the votes of the vets.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 10:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Leroy, he won't get the votes of the vets if he betrays Rachel and Jordan at this point in the game by using the veto and voting Jordan out.

Montana12
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07-06-2011

Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 11:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Montana12 a private message Print Post    
Adam loses if he doesn't make a move to get Jordan out, because if he ends up in the finals with her all the vets will vote for her anyway. His best shot is to use the veto and vote out Jordan.

Way2witchy
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09-07-2006

Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 11:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Way2witchy a private message Print Post    
Maybe he plans to use the veto but just isn't saying anything to avoid any confrontations with RJ.
He did say that he wanted to get the vets out and have F3 be newbies.

Aabeepbeep
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01-27-2006

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 12:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aabeepbeep a private message Print Post    
I believe Adams only chance of winning is to use the veto, pulling Porsche off with the understanding she must vote Jordan out (which i'm sure she would anyway) this would also ensure Kalia stays and she would be grateful enough to stick with a newbie final 3.

With Jordan being gone and Rachel not being able to compete in HOH, a newbie will win HOH and put up Rachel against anyone else. The only vote will be the newbie who is not HOH or the pawn, thus making sure Rachel is evicted.

(ie; P wins hoh, puts up R and K, Adam is the only vote buh bye Rachel)

Will the vets in the jury house be po'd? absolutely... at least at first. Once they have a few days to decompress and think about it, they may actually respect it as being a big game move.

Think about it, just by using this one veto, not only will Adam get out Jordan (who would probably win in votes)but also be responsible for evicting the biggest competitor left in the house. AND it is now the only way for there to be newbies as F3 then as F2!

Especially if he and Por are F2. Neither of them have won or done much in the game until P won veto then HOH, and Adams 2 vetoes.

So I think he must use his cajones along with his veto in order to have any chance at the win, or even 2nd.

Chere
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08-10-2005

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 6:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
His best shot is to use the veto and vote out Jordan.

If he does that it means he's competing against Kalia and Porsche in the F4 HoH. Adam wants to win the F4 HoH to guarantee his spot in F3. Kalia could beat him in the F4 HoH and veto, Q&A is her strength.

Adam against Jordan and Porsche makes him the favorite to win the F4 HoH.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 7:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
I think Adam is doing the right thing for him because when it gets down to 3 he has a better chance of beating Rachel and Jordan, than Kalia and Porche. Jordan is weak in comps this year so it would be like 1-1 against Rachel or 2-1 against Porche/Kalia.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 7:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
Lol chere didn't notice you post when I was typing, I agree with you, get rid of Kalia now, for Adams game.

Flossiebebe
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09-01-2005

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 7:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flossiebebe a private message Print Post    
Adam's a fool. He can't win against Jordon or Rachel.

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 8:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I won't discuss the "cajones" part of this thread but I repeat what I've been talking about under the other Adam thread that he's playing wisely and smart and lately even losing a bit of his hesitancy and finally telling Porsche and Kalia that J/R gave him a chance to stay in the game while they did nothing for him.
On Monday we'll see if indeed Adam is truthful to Jordan when he won't use the Veto.
If he caves in to Porsche or Kalia requests I will gladly say "I was wrong".

Holly
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07-21-2001

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Adam is the most fearful player ever to play BB.

Chere
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08-10-2005

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 8:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
Adam's a fool. He can't win against Jordon or Rachel.

If Kalia and Porsche stay together they will never choose to bring him to F3 to have a chance at F2.

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 8:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    
He`ll have more chance in persuading K or P to take him to f2 than persuading R/J.

K/P are far more fickle.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Adam can't win endurance against any of these people. So he loses the first part of the final HOH regardless of who is with him. So it's the second part he has to worry about winning. The third part is pure luck.

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
I posted this in another tread but it really belongs here:

Why does Adam have to stay in the newbie alliance?

He is entitled to be in any alliance he chooses. If he wants to stay aligned with Jordan as he has been since week two then he has every right to do so.

The house guests do not have to be newbie vs vets.....that's something some viewers started not a rule Big brother imposed on them this year.

Adam's alliance is no less worthy or genuine than anyone else s alliance.
I think it is admiral that he picked an alliance and stayed true to it. If he likes some of the vets more than some of the newbs so be it. In his opinion the vets treated him better.
I was proud of him when he bucked the house and voted to keep Jeff. Showed me he indeed has balls of steel lol!

Adam is his own man. Just because he did not pick someones else s fav player or joined an alliance that some viewers thought he should he is called a lousy game player and other fun things.

Flossiebebe
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09-01-2005

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 3:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flossiebebe a private message Print Post    
The point is: Adam should make the move that is best for his game. But, maybe his game is to be friends with Jeff etc after the show? He sure isn't acting like someone who wants to win BB. If he wants to remain buds with Jeff, he doesn't use veto. If he wants to have a chance at winning it all, this is the time.

Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 5:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
Adam drop your cajones

I thought he already dropped them off at the front door on his way into the house. Allison Grodner is keeping them in her file cabinet until after the finale.

Aabeepbeep
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01-27-2006

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 5:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aabeepbeep a private message Print Post    
Flossie, that's what I meant also. if he wants a chance to win, he needs to make that move, imo.

I had high hopes for Adam in the beginning because he is such a fan, I actually applied a few times myself, however I am a plus sized woman and I believe that is a reason I was never considered. If I could have gotten a face to face interview, I may have had a chance, if they didn't want me after that I would be fine with that, just wanted a chance to prove myself. In the past 2 years I lost 64 lbs, but am now at a stage in my life that it wouldn't be feasible for me to do it. Maybe in the future...

Back on topic, thats another reason I rooted for Adam in the beginning, losing the weight to better his odds of getting on the show, but his game play is lacking. Not all challenges are physical, and him knowing much about the game, I feel he should've been able to win some q & a's etc.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 5:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Adam is probably just tucking them back and coasting. Seems to be working for him in the game so far. He doesn't seem strong in comps, so he would have to win a comp in pure luck. For some reason I see him in the final two. It could happen.

Holly
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07-21-2001

Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
A 'metal man' (in his 40's, no less) obsessed with Tori Spelling. Ottaaaayy!

Most. spineless. contestant. evah! Did Grodner ever get gipped and ripped with this one, LOL.

Frogichik
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06-11-2002

Monday, September 05, 2011 - 6:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Frogichik a private message Print Post    
Adam = WORST CASTING EVER


He is a fan of the show and not of the game.

His reasoning for keeping Dani was that she said if he evicted her he was writing a check to JeJo and he said what's the difference if he kept her he would be writing a check to Dani. I would MUCH rather have have 1 (Dani) person to get through then 2 (JeJo) people! Why on earth would you want to be in a final 4 with a couple? Just dumb dumb dumb

Ritfie
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05-09-2006

Monday, September 05, 2011 - 10:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ritfie a private message Print Post    
I was looking at Adam's picture on the contestant wall and thought maybe he was cast to be another Evil Dick. Well he definitely is not and I, for one, am glad. Dick is my least favorite contestant ever. I don't mind Adam. He seems to be a nice guy (not so great at big brother though).

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Monday, September 05, 2011 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
But, Frogichick, Adam was right, as it turned out. Saving Dani would have done nothing for him and it would have put him in the position of having to somehow beat HER for a HOH or POV win.

Historically, people in this game who make "big moves" don't win. Upsetting the apple cart tends to make people upset or it puts a target on your back. Ask David and Nate, who both flipped the script in season 4 to keep Erika and Alison respectively, what happened to them. Ask Diane how flipping on Nakomis and Karen worked out for her. Ask Jen how voting out Dustin worked out for her. Ask Jeff how flipping on Russell worked out for him. Ask Shelly how flipping on J/J and trying to keep Dani worked for her.

There is only one time I can think that a flip SHOULD have occurred but didn't and ended up costing someone is Zach in season 8. He won POV at F5 and SHOULD have vetoed Jameka and forced Dani up on the block to be voted out. Unfortunately, because it was FF, he didn't have time. Though, even then he might have been screwed because it would have left Dick with another unbreakable ally, America, even if he didn't know it.

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Monday, September 05, 2011 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    
Shame - as the ones that make big moves make this show more excitable to watch.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Monday, September 05, 2011 - 12:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Adam just seems like he's collecting a paycheck, which must be a nice break from collecting a paycheck in Jersey.

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Monday, September 05, 2011 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
You're right, Tissy, it does make it more exciting, which is why such people become fan favorites. It's also why they end up losing most of the time. They seldom even make F2, because they are seen as a "threat".

Fans really love and respect big moves if it helps the people they already like. Keesha made a big game move, saving Memphis. She got 4th place for her troubles, yet people love her because she made a move that ended up saving Memphis and ultimately gave Dan the win.

Dr. Will is considered one of the greatest players and he NEVER made a big game move just to be a competitor. He instead convinced other people to make the big game moves in his favor. Getting Erika to put up Danielle and get her out was pure genius. How did that big move work out for Erika?

The biggest indicators that someone has a shot at being in F2 and winning the game are being perceived as the physically weakest member of a strong alliance (or having no known alliance) and being able to be flexible enough to roll with changes in house dynamics and producers' twists. It's how Will, Lisa, Jun, Adam, Dan, and Jordan won. The other way to be successful is for you to gather an alliance that can't be broken (Maggie and Hayden) or to have extra people playing for you to win against their own best interest because of other factors (Boogie and Dick). The unbreakable alliance is nearly impossible to set up and keep going (for instance, they got Matt out before he could stray) and how often do you have America playing on your side?

Adam is derided for not saving Kalia and Porsche because fans demand action. But as a fan himself, all he needs to do is look at BB history to know that big moves seldom bring the big payday.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Monday, September 05, 2011 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Remember Danielle made a big move in getting rid of Roddy in S3, and everyone hated her for "lying," lol--but she did make it to F2. Oh those were the days. Still my favorite season ever.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Monday, September 05, 2011 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Well, as we expected, Adam did not have the courage to rid the house of Jordan.

She just drifts through again and the best he will get is F3 -- with AG's choice of Rachel and Jordan as F2.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Monday, September 05, 2011 - 2:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
The "big move" is not necessarily the smart move.

Jenjackso
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02-10-2009

Monday, September 05, 2011 - 2:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jenjackso a private message Print Post    
Unfortunately I believe that Adam will go no further than #3.