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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Big Brother USA ARCHIVES: Big Brother 13 - Part 5: Is Big Brother Manipulated? Fixed?: Archive through August 13, 2011 users admin

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Backslider
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08-09-2007

Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 9:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Backslider a private message Print Post    
It's not completely out of the realm of possibility that Brendon had the most votes. He and Rachel did get "voted in" before the show started. But Big Brother is still rigged. (The Guinea Pigs question is the start and end of that conversation.)

The thing that was annoying about this vote tonight was:
1. She said over 2,000,000 votes cast. If it was much over 2,000,000 she would have said something else, so I think it is reasonable to assume it was a little over 2,000,000.
2. She sent two of them away, and then said it was a close vote, implying that Brendon beat Dominic by some small amount.
3. Then she says Brendon got 1,000,000 votes.

Those three statements CAN'T all be true. It's impossible. I guarantee you Cassi got a decent percentage of the vote as the only female, and a smokin hot model. I voted for her 10 times. She was the leader of many online polls. Even if she only got 20% (which is a very low estimate, imo), the math just doesn't work out.

So... maybe THIS vote was rigged, maybe it wasn't. At the very least CBS lied about it, and Big Brother is absolutely, undoubtedly rigged either way.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 9:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Julie is hopeless with numbers (among other things).

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 10:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
I also caught the numbers contradictions outlined by Backslider.

And it would not surprise me in the least if Brendon wasn't the "real" winner. I mean, all we fans want is "good television," right? And Alison Grodner is giving it to us.

Bye-bye to all of those who are leaving. See you next year, if there is a next year.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 10:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
lawon had all kinds of stuff memorized in the house, had dates/ comps etc memorized.

so what is the important 'get back in the house' comp?? a carnival ball in hole game.... the balls didnt even have to be in any order or anything. At least it could have been by age or something.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 10:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Julie actually said over 3 million votes were cast.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 10:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I told my whole family that what Julie said is not a lie. She looked right at the camera and said "The person you chose to come back in is Brenden."(paraphrasing) Now that is not a lie to the people who voted Brenden back in and I think there will be another twist soon. It's a production/reality show.

Egbok
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07-13-2000

Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 10:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Egbok a private message Print Post    
My first BB post this season. Yeah, IMHO, clearly a lot is scripted and fixed but as Juju said, all we want is "good television". Think about it. My favs Jeff and Jordan would have the half mil in the bag if anyone but Brendon came back. C'mon, we love the drama of it all and this season has been rekindled tonight. I'll continue watching, as will a lot of folks who are all riled up over this. It's human nature.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 10:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
If you think that the vote to bring back Brendon was rigged, do you also believe that Dani won HOH was rigged?

Me, personally, I don't believe any of it is rigged. I think Brendon got the votes, I think Brendon won the comp fair and square, and I think Dani won HOH fair and square.

So just because Lawon had all kinds of stuff memorized, then it should have been a memorization game?

Either it's all rigged, or none of it is rigged. You can't pick and choose based on who your favorite/least favorite houseguest is.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 10:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
imo, BB does try to manipulate what is going on in the house for ratings. but in no way, imo, would they do something to change the votes.

history has shown rigged game shows were exposed. cbs/producers don't have to take this risk (fixing the votes). they can boost their ratings in other ways....with no risk.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 10:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I don't base my opinion on my favorite. I don't think it is rigged, it is what it is. All the so called "reality shows" are scripted to some extent. The order of how they show it happening on tv alone could make the viewer form a different opinion than if they were to see the actual order of words or deeds said and done. whew!

Lardbrick
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01-16-2006

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 2:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lardbrick a private message Print Post    
I think most of the America Votes are rigged. Just think about the best possible outcome for better ratings, down to the have-nots food choices, and you know that BB picks the one for the best ratings.

They hear the hamsters talk in the DR so they know what the votes will be ahead of time. They try to build the drama by choosing the sequence so that it looks like it's close and the evicted HG actually has a chance because they don't want to show who is really going home until the last minute.

And you know that they have the food set up way ahead of time. It takes planning to get catfish!!

If America had voted Brendon, BB would have sent Cassi in just to cause some controversey with Rachel.

RIGGED.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 4:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
i didnt predict dani to win the HOH. i'm rather pleased but flumoxed as well (sp!?)

i predicted Porsche since day two of K's HOH, then I decided that jeff seemed too calm and that he was earmarked for this one.

Cant wait to SEE this comp and whether dani's superior rationale and intellect helped her steal it away.

Like we pretty much all agree, The show IS swayed to certain outcomes BUT no one can guarantee how a Contestant will react during a comp.

Konamouse
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07-15-2001

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 5:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
I'm still surprised it was ONLY 2 million votes. Compared to their ratings, and considering people could vote up to 10 times, there should have been MORE votes. So maybe the 'boycott' by many internet/live feed viewers (supported by Dingo's Hamsterwatch & other twitter feedsters) backfired (so Brendon/Rachel/Drama fans won by default).


Bblovergirl
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07-07-2005

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 5:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bblovergirl a private message Print Post    
Dani wins HOH just as Brendon comes back in the house? Totally rigged. I'm done with BB, it is now just too predictable. Ugh.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Like we pretty much all agree, The show IS swayed to certain outcomes BUT no one can guarantee how a Contestant will react during a comp.

ITA!!! :-)

Kappy
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06-28-2002

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 7:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
BB wants the two lovebird couples in the final four. I think ED figured it out in the first week and that's why he left.

Mizinvanccouver
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02-21-2003

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mizinvanccouver a private message Print Post    
I don't think it's completely rigged, if it was A.G. would have had Dominque return since in an interview she had said she thought he would win the game.

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 8:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
The vote count would have been far higher had many of us even been able to vote. I tried several times and never did get the website to work for me. That part to me, is suspicious. There are many of us who couldn't even vote.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
I think most of the America Votes are rigged. Just think about the best possible outcome for better ratings, down to the have-nots food choices, and you know that BB picks the one for the best ratings.

[...]

If America had voted Brendon, BB would have sent Cassi in just to cause some controversey with Rachel.


If the votes are rigged, then it means that BB believes bringing Brendon back would lead to better ratings. But if America had voted for Brendon, the producers would switch it to Cassi? So the producers believe that doing the opposite of what the voters want would lead to better ratings?

Doesn't really make sense to me, but considering the ratings look good even with all the complaints, maybe the producers are on to something.

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonzacat a private message Print Post    
I've put this in 3 threads, just not sure where it should go. lol

http://www.cbs.com/shows/big_brother/americas_vote



Rn2b
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08-12-2011

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 10:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rn2b a private message Print Post    
It's funny that you posted the poll as shown by CBS, LOL. If it's bogus, then why would CBS out themselves?

Either way, I've watched BB from season one. I skipped a season or two due to inability to watch or simply because I always felt it was rigged. It has been fairly predictable for years. One can easily say before an event unfolds (e.g., HOH, veto) who will get it. The show is always a virtual rollercoaster of back and forth sides until the end. It may not be consistent but they think they're crafty about hiding their manipulation. Everyone who's watched from the beginning knows the DR plays games and more or less tells certain players things they didn't know. Live feeders have caught fishy exchanges in past seasons on DR cams.

As far as HGs (former or otherwise) claiming it's real and not rigged/manipulated, well they sign plenty of documents to not discuss certain things about the show. I still watch these shows, bit rest assured that it's bogus. I even know a guy who worked in production for two documentary type shows where they follow "celebrities" around and he said that all these reality shows are completely fake. Some more than others, but fake to a high degree.

I'm posting from a phone so forgive any errors. :-)

Rn2b
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08-12-2011

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 10:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rn2b a private message Print Post    
Forgot my other example. I'm always reminded of that one Survivor. I think the guy was a fireman. He was winning every challenge and made the final three. The two younger people he was up against had both done activities (e.g., dance, ice skating?) that required good balance. Well the final challenge was a balancing act and he lost big. How convenient. Survivor screwed that poor guy IMO.

Rn2b
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08-12-2011

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rn2b a private message Print Post    
Oh and I'm not calling you out Bonzacat ;-) I just don't see how that poll helps debunk or rigging or even confirm validity. For all we know Brenden was voted back in. It makes the show more interesting even if you hate B/R. Either way, the comp was slanted for him and not Lawon.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 6:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
Well remember, this is only the cbs.com votes- you don't know if they included the text messaging. (and the numbers are a little suspect anyway- only 1% for Keith? that seems a little low- I was thinking 45-25-20-10 or so..).

Lostfan
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03-10-2010

Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lostfan a private message Print Post    
This season was set up for Dani to win!