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Orhm
Member
08-26-2011
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 4:06 am
Shelly was doing just fine, doing what ALL BB players do....try and advance in the game. Lieing, making deals, cutthroating....it's all just 'game'. My 'bones' with her started just after they'd evicted Jeff, then she went to Jordan with her 'rant'. One thing to remember...to play the 'lieing' game, you have to have one HECK of a memory!}
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Puttergirl
Member
08-11-2000
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 4:43 am
Here's my take on it. Sure Shelley had a right to change sides. If you take the personal part out of it (which I think you can't in this case only because she presented herself as being above the usual back-stabbing game play) and just look at what she did as a game move, I still think it was a bad one. In her mind, she had a better chance with the <77> girls than with Jeff's alliance. But considering that she's never won anything, I think she was better off being carried for another 2 weeks by Jeff before making her move. She's not likely to win anything on the other side either and they were likely to eat her up quicker than Jeff. She really had a pretty good thing going... being protected while not having to win any competitions. She lost the bigger protection by switching. I think in the end, she just got enamored with Dani and let Dani influence her too much. I think alot of her anger came from realizing she had probably blown it big time... in the game and in her friendship with J/J which she cherished alot. She also didn't think through the fact that if she helped put all of Jeff's alliance in the jury house, they were unlikely to vote for her to win in the end.
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Pippin04
Member
10-26-2007
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 6:12 am
Shelly played a game that she could not win. If she made final 3 with JJ, she would be in the dog house if she did not give up and take third place. She could not beat either of them in F2, and when she realized this she altered her game. There is nothing wrong with that. I do not believe that JJ fans are the cause of all the negative actions, I believe Facebook is to blame as they are permitting the bashing and bullying. If you look at Facebook you will see America also hates Kalia, Porsche and JJ fans. There is too much hate in the world already. Just a side story regarding fans. We are a big hockey town. Every year in the playoffs, if the team wins any game the fans come out to cheer and celebrate. Every year there is a riot and stores are damaged and looted, cars are damaged and someone gets hurt. The riots are always caused by non hockey fans. They just use the game to start a riot and loot. The shelly hate is the same thing, just people saying things to get attention. Well I am sure they will not enjoy the FBI attention, then again maybe they are used to that kind of attention. Don't hate.
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Maineiac
Member
08-24-2009
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 6:19 am
Where is all the JJ Worship? Am I missing something, I don't see it. Is it on other message boards?
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 8:09 am
I forsee a for sale sign on her lawn when she gets home.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 8:32 am
Only action in the house so far is Shelly as usual this time of day. I wonder how long they'll sleep.

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Me_poster
Member
03-02-2010
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 9:41 am
why would shelly come home to a for sale sigh? what has she done that is so atrocious that there would be a for sale sign?
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 9:44 am
Me_poster to hide from the crazies calling in death threats to her and her family
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 9:51 am
Selling her house and moving won't make her any harder to find. It's not like she's going into the Witness Protection Program. I'm not referring to anyone on our lovely board here but some people out there talk a lot of nonsense and are very brave sitting behind a computer screen but few act on it. This will all blow over.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 3:13 pm
Where is all the JJ Worship? maine, if i posted examples all it would do is create bad feelings. I think that most of us have seen the posts in LIVE FEED DISCUSSION threads depending on what is going on in feeds. a good example might be the night I caught a disturbing rant that jeff was on and Jordan was upset and trying to calm him down. I posted Screencaps and dialogue and whipped over to see what posters were saying about it in Live Discussion. My first post was something like OMG did you hear Jeff? he really gets angry and blows. For two pages afterwards I was called hounded and nonfeed watchers were told I was making stuff up...for posting Jeff jordans' interaction. the JJ worshipers SEEMED like they could not wrap their brains around how jeff's words and behaviour was upsetting jordan. When she said she was scared of him when he got like that, they didnt believe it really was said... regardless of my caps/ words and the FB time clearly available. Sorry for the long post but its a great example for me NOT TO name names or make anyone feel bad. but a good example of how difficult it was for us who Dont think its cute when Jeff calls Jordan stupid and SHUT up. I just chose not to bother Posting my thoughts at those times
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Oliviamimi
Member
05-30-2009
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 3:19 pm
This Shelly stuff will be forgotten 2 weeks after the games end. People have short memories. Unfortunately the damage to Shelly's family will last for a long time. If it were just Shelly I wouldn't care. She is an adult that can take it, but this involves her daughter. Who knows how any of us would play this game. I don't think I'd act like Shelly but who knows.
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Jenjackso
Member
02-10-2009
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 3:34 pm
I'm not a J/J worshipper but I have felt like there was overreaction to Jeff's big "rants." Like the one when he was checking with Adam to see what was still going on, he didn't really sound mad at Adam at all, they were talking guy to guy. I think the difference might be that I'm around a lot of guys and that is how they interact. I give Jeff credit for being himself, even if others might take what he is saying different than he intended it or might not agree with what he says. I don't think that Shelly is really in any danger. Remember how bad The Friendship was? They were able to disappear back into their lives. Shelly is not like that at all, she is just a massive game player and the game caught up to her. I think what I dislike most is when a "twist" like Pandora's Box makes game decisions. I don't think AG thought it would be like this when they laid out the plan (which they have to lay out in advance for game show liability issues). It just worked out this way but it's frustrating to me when it flips the game around. Ultimately, all Porsche's fault of course ;-).
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 3:43 pm
if you mean the 45 mins solid picking at adam i caught one afternoon, i would never have called that 'just checking in'. Jordan even joined in at one point. Adam's bright red angry face showed Adam also took it the same as I that is a Great example of interpreting jeff's behaviour differently then if it was a stranger that didnt already have a fan base. (( jeff doesnt REALLY mean to sound angry "its just the way he talks" is often the explanation....regardless of how Jeff acts/ talks when he isnt frustrated. IF it really was his usual tone and way of speaking, it would be ALL the time)) BTW, we got to see Adam's angry frustrated face a few times since then so i stand by the caps I took at the time.
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Maineiac
Member
08-24-2009
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 3:44 pm
Thanks Sunshyne for filling me in. I don't read LIVE FEED DISCUSSION threads so I haven't seen that sort of thing. I will admit I have, on more than one occasion came to Jeff or Jordan's defense when I felt it was needed. But I am not at all, by any means, a JJ worshipper. I would even dare take a leap and say most JJ fans on this MB are not "worshippers". JMO
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 3:46 pm
oh I havent accused anyone I hope. thx for the interchange. No bad feelings i hope Maine 
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Cokegirl
Member
03-08-2004
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 3:52 pm
Just for the record~~~ Shelly put Rachel's dog in her (Rachel's) bed. So the petnapping is over for now. Still waiting to see if/when Rachel finds it.
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Maineiac
Member
08-24-2009
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 3:53 pm
Of course not Sunshyne.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 3:58 pm
Adam's bright red angry face showed Adam also took it the same as I I don't think you can say for sure how he took it, you don't know what he was thinking. I don't believe he said "I'm angry" at any point either. FWIW, the screen cap you posted at the time didn't look red or angry to me. I often overhear my DS and his friends picking at each other and poking at each other and making fun, and sometimes blustering. It upsets me. And when I talk to my DS about it, he looks at me all confused and says "I don't get it, mom, we're all fine. No one's mad or hurt or anything." So, it's one thing to say "he sounded angry to me". It's quite another to say "I'm sure he was angry." you are correct that we all have our own lenses, and to me, his 'frustration' was confusion, or consternation. But not anger. and he likes Jeff and still likes him. I'm guessing it's just a guy thing. Like my DS. 
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 4:32 pm
I don't believe he said "I'm angry" at any point either yes he has, usually when telling other people about what was said or what happened. as for my caps, if anyone cant see the difference in adam's face colour between various caps, and dont notice veins that become prominent and his face tightens, i cant be to blame. maybe the colour on PC monitor is not set well. Adam also gets pacey, agitated and movements became jerky when upset. NONE of those things are caught in a screencap which is why i often type that people should check FB and decide for themselves. Adam became redfaced flustered in Washroom with Porsche too. He only flushes at certain times. flustered would be a better word then Angry. I've noticed now that his game is on the line, he is flushing much more on feeds.
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 4:38 pm
He flushes when he is lying.
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Carol_shelly
Member
07-07-2004
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 4:49 pm
Adam could very well have been angry. But... big but..who at or what?? I didnt take it as mad at Jeff but more at the situation.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 4:59 pm
people should check FB That's great if they have feeds, but I do not. I do watch BBAD most every night, and have yet to see Adam behave in any of those ways. Doesn't mean he hasn't, but I have not seen it, nor have I ever heard him say that he was angry about something.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 5:18 pm
I do have the feeds and I got a completely different impression as you did Sunshyne. I'd like to say that I saw and tend to see a Jeff differently than you do. He was asking questions to his ally who was stammering and stuttering and not giving direct answers and Jeff was definitely getting more suspicious and Adam seemed to fail on the spot like he often does and was giving Jeff the wrong impression and he knew it. I saw an Adam that was plain frustrated because he knew that Jeff didn't trust him completely to be asking him the questions. It was definitely an emotional Jeff and a stammering Adam IMO.
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Sourweedjm
Member
04-06-2007
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 5:36 pm
u r doing great sunshyne4u!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 5:37 pm
nor have I ever heard him say that he was angry about something. screencap thread Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 3:50 am convo worth FB Found one i did. <77>
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