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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Big Brother USA ARCHIVES: Big Brother 13 - Part 5: Is Big Brother Manipulated? Fixed?: Archive through August 27, 2011 users admin

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Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Friday, August 26, 2011 - 5:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
The only part I liked about last nights events was that Danielle was evicted from the house, but I'm still not going to holler the game/comps are fixed when something happens that I don't like. :-)

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Friday, August 26, 2011 - 6:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Porsche didn't feel like opening the box, she was happy the way things were. Unless she got too curious or the DR encouraged her to open the box, we'll never know.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
No, we'll never know... but, I'll never believe this so called twist was pre-planned but rather a way to keep the vets in the game. Jordan is completely safe because we all know that if RJ loses the veto, R is gone and if they win it, S is toast. If there were no duos and R won the veto and took herself off, J was in danger for the first time in this game. Just write her the check fer gawds sake.

Oregonguy
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02-12-2006

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oregonguy a private message Print Post    
i think pandoras box was planned its the stipulations that were done last minute

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
When you talk about following a script and threatening houseguests it implies the outcome is totally controlled. But I understand what you mean now.

I agree with those who say that BB tinkers to keep things interesting. This Pandora's Box thing is another good example of this.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Trying to keep things interesting is probably why we had so many Pandora's boxes last year!

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
the tinkering has the opposite effect on me - it makes me lose interest, rather than increase my interest

Donsgirl
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08-01-2005

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Donsgirl a private message Print Post    
sunshine I just think you are a bb junkie and know everything that is going to happen, or are you just a superfan and you should be on the show? I love reading your posts, thanks for all the enjoyment.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 1:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
the plotlines are developed for the tv show, i've never seen anyone here or elsewhere say that there is a SCRIPT WRITTEN BEFORE the show starts.

i personally believe that the storyline developers work weekly. When i say "if i was writing the script", i mean the weekly or biweekly script. which is why my accuracy hasnt been too bad.

Notice this is the FIRST season i havent said the final four.... usually i know by week two whom the Producers seem to portraying as the finalists/ fan favs. This season has been puzzling due to the vets.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 1:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
ABBY, i was surprised to learn that BB had Porsche read the Bible; it wasn't her decision to do so. when i saw her doing that on bbad, i thought it was just something she decided to do.

if you watch FB of porsche getting her room, she was happy because they gave her a Bible because she had asked for one.

i cant remember much about the interchange except shelley points out the bible to her and P responds.

so i dont think its a set up by BB directly

Muffin
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08-29-2007

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Muffin a private message Print Post    
I think the Before and After comp was tailor-made for Adam to win. He is a walking encyclopedia in this area and can relate anything from all seasons. That being said, I don't think think that BB expected him to throw it again. He told Kalia he had a brain fart. Right!

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 2:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Tinkers? lol. Pulling one hg's azz out of the fire at the peril of others is more than tinkering IMHO.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 2:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
It's pretty clear from this Pandora's Box twist that BB has a list of who they want favored and Jordan is at the top and Shelly is at or near the bottom.

I agree that Before and After was an Adam win and I don't know what happened to Jeff in that POV. It was made for him.

LOL - Shows that no matter what BB does, people aren't puppets and real life happens.

Maineiac
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08-24-2009

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 3:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maineiac a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, I think Jeff was overly adrenalinized(is this a word) when he played for POV. He had just had the fight with Shelly, finding out she betrayed him and then finding out about the DE. He was put on the block and had to win or leave.

He jumped into those balls with full force. He needed to calm down and use his head.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 4:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
lol... use his head to find the foot. That just struck me funny. Not to mention jumping into balls with full force. LMAO. The things bb causes us to put on paper...

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
ok i'm bummed, i cant find my post about rachel being here to win next weeks HOH.

now i find out K P are throwing it to her? omg. i need proof i already predicted this... oh i'll check prediction thread.

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 8:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Well, we need to find out if Porsche was really greedy and opened the box or if she was "encouraged" by BB to open it telling her it would be good for her and we need to find out if it was Porsche who set the duos or if she was handed out the list of duos by BB. I think she was the one who chose the duo, some say she made the mistake of putting J/R together, so I don't know who decided that.

The Pandora Box is really a last chance for J/R but it could have gone either way, they still could have lost the comp.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
not from the sound of the comp. but until we see it, i reserve the right to describe how it 'could' have been done.

but then again, kalia, adam, porsche bottomheavy for hanging. Shelley = bad back...so it doesnt take a crystal ball to see how it would play out

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I would have thought Porsche would have been good at hanging, but of course we haven't seen it yet) however she had less incentive than Adam and Shelly and it clearly was NOT made for them.

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 9:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
As far as Shelly goes, she had to get a medical clearance in order to go in the house so her excuse of I wont hurt my self so I cant pick up my child doesn't fly with me! Jerry was OLD and he played hard!!!

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
I'm trying to think if I've EVER seen a VETO comp that was endurance... in 12 seasons. I don't recall one which just convinces me further that not only did the bogus "twist" save Jordan 100%, it gave Shelly/Adam zero chance of winning it to save themselves. Let's face it, BB comps are always expect the expected- season after season to the point the hg can name the tune before a note is sung.

And yes, if R won veto and they weren't paired and she saved herself, there was a very strong probability that Jordan was going to the jury. First time this season as a matter of fact. Only an insane bb player would choose to take Jordan to f2. She's got 2 out of the 3 votes in the jury house right now.

Coup 'de Jord. Matches the Coup 'de Jeff two years ago.

Reality TV? More like a pageant on crack.

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 9:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
But it's still comes down to who or what made Porsche open the Box, she could have refused to open the box (and she didn't want to) and J/R couldn't be saved, or Rachel couldn't be saved.
It's the pandora box dilemma, who or what convinced Porsche to open the box when she liked the way things were at the moment.
It's not the duo, it's not the POV comp geared for Rachel, it's the Pandora Box!!! Who or what made Porsche open it!!! (it's usually bad for HOH but good for the others), but they enticed Porsche with the money and so she opened it...

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 10:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Sure, there's that. Setting aside human nature, er, greed, this "punishment" only punished Adam and Shelly. Kalia (along with Porsche) got 5 grand and was 100% safe. J/R (especially Jordan who was 100% safe paired with R- not so on her own) got a big ole barrel of hope. How the hell is that punishment for the house?

Nah. AG is playing God. Rachel even thanked her profusely afterwards... THANK GOD WE WON.

Makes me sick as a fan of the game all these years.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 10:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Oh and just for a little insurance... an historical hanging endurance veto. That's the cherry on top. Thank gawd again.

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 10:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
yes of course the comp was certainly chosen to help Rachel... but still, if only Porsche did not open the Pandora Box the game would be over for Rachel. So, it's the fact that Porsche opened the box and she had the choice of not doing so... Can't entireley blame Production for this or we will never know if Porsche's hand was forced by BB...