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Bbnut
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06-12-2006

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 8:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnut a private message Print Post    
I agree totally, Mama...that is what a lot of people didn't see. What she said and did had nothing to do with the game, it was just plain nasty and probably true to her normal every day life. I liked her in the very beginning and then that totally turned me off.

Ark
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07-09-2001

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ark a private message Print Post    
As far as the good-bye messages go, we know & the evicted HGs know, that those messages are HEAVILY edited. The words coming out of the speakers mouth did come out of their mouth but we have no idea in what order or in what context or if they are asked leading questions by production.

Bbnut
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06-12-2006

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnut a private message Print Post    
True Ark...they manipulate a lot...and some of it makes them look mean or dumb or whatever.

Nana731
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07-06-2005

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nana731 a private message Print Post    
Yep Bbnut, you are so right, love can make you blind. I experienced it first hand. Once I was out of the situation and time had passed, I wondered why in the heck was I ever with that man and what did I see in him. lol

Stopthemadness
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stopthemadness a private message Print Post    
Wow, it's funny how differently we perceive people. I don't think there is anything wrong with Rachel's good-bye messages. The other girls have treated her like poop and have said some truly awful things about her all season and that was okay. But let her say something to them as they are on their way out and she is a bad, mean and immature person. I don't get it.....

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
I think, at heart, Rachel is incredibly insecure and she EXPECTS people to think the worst of her so she goes ahead and gives it to them.

In this game, it's a defense mechanism. I think her worst nightmare would be to win her way to F2 against many odds and still not win because people just don't like her.

She thinks that even if she gave a nice message, these people would STILL hate her, so she leaves a nasty one as a preemptive strike. It's terrible game play (though, really, is someone who makes nooses around figures of you and your boyfriend really going to change their mind based on a "nice" message?) but she can't stop herself from doing it because to try and win their approval and fail would be absolutely devastating.

Bbnut
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06-12-2006

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnut a private message Print Post    
I hear you Nana...until you "step outside of the box" it is hard to see the whole picture.

Bbnut
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06-12-2006

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnut a private message Print Post    
...and Onlyhuman...Rachel has a hard time acting fake...she told Brendon that...she can't pretend to like someone she doesn't like...and frankly I can't blame her for that...but yes, that does hurt her in game play.

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
I do think a Rachel/Jordan F2 would be interesting simply because of the contrast, especially if Rachel wins the comps to take Jordan to the F2.

Does Rachel get credit for being loyal to her?
Do the hard core gamers have to invent a reason to give the win to Jordan, or do they admit that they just like her better?
Do they disregard the fact that Jordan would most likely be gone if it wasn't for the "twist"?

Because the scales of likability are so heavily weighted in Jordan's favor, I have to think if she pulls out just one win in these next 4 competitions, she will win the game in a landslide. I think without winning anything else she will still win, it just may be a little close.

Lajonesin
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03-22-2008

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lajonesin a private message Print Post    
And why do people say awful things about Rachal? Because that is what she inspires in people. You teach people how to treat you and she gives lessons in hating her, then wonders why no one likes her. It's really sad that she has so little self awareness. Maybe if she wasn't so nasty when she is the power holder, people wouldn't say anything mean about her. They almost never speak ill of Jordan. She treats people with kindness and she receives it in return, generally.

You get what you give. And that is true of all of them, not just Rachal.

Missyb
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07-28-2004

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
interesting piece of trivia from someone at the taping:
adamrucker Adam Rucker
They polled the studio audience B4 taping & overwhelming majority said Rachel will win. Jordan in 2nd. A few think Adam has a shot. #BB13


Bbnut
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06-12-2006

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnut a private message Print Post    
Jordan positioned herself very well...as long as Porsche doesn't win the veto...because Adam will take her to final 2 and Rachel will take her also.

Simplyde
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07-26-2011

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Simplyde a private message Print Post    
anyone know what time the show comes on Central time tonight??? Still 7?

Dawn
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07-24-2009

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dawn a private message Print Post    
i hope so... i don't want to wait till 8!

Dawn
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07-24-2009

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dawn a private message Print Post    
yea i have big brother at regular time tonight. whoo hoo!!

Bbnut
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06-12-2006

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnut a private message Print Post    
I think it comes on at 7...tomorrow is 8, but I heard the Prez is talking...so who knows what will happen.

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
You get what you give. And that is true of all of them, not just Rachal.

What did Rachel ever do to Shelly that merited Shelly running around calling her dirty and disgusting and retelling the shorts story over and over?

What had Rachel done to Porsche that Porsche needed to put a noose around the figures?

I agree that Rachel is a lot to take and I think she is more than a little obnoxious. But I don't think her treatment is completely earned. She has certainly done her best with Jordan, giving her support and credit for their teamwork, only to have Jordan turn around and call her a "handful". If that's the kind of support she gets from a person that Rachel has been good to, how can it all be Rachel's fault?

Hwy1diva
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05-10-2011

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hwy1diva a private message Print Post    
Some the the women in the house this year are just mean. It is amazing to me that some people really never grow up.

Bbnut
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06-12-2006

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnut a private message Print Post    
You get what you give is not only general, it's not always true.

Moderator
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06-29-2002

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moderator a private message Print Post    
Please do NOT discuss politics in this thread.

Nala63
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09-20-2005

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nala63 a private message Print Post    
Onlyhuman, you are so right. IMHO

Jushvnfn
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07-29-2006

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jushvnfn a private message Print Post    
Onlyhuman


Well said. I like the way you think

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    

I don't think there is anything wrong with Rachel's good-bye messages. The other girls have treated her like poop and have said some truly awful things about her all season and that was okay. But let her say something to them as they are on their way out and she is a bad, mean and immature person. I don't get it.....


I think it`s more to do with getting the jury`s votes at the end. Would hate her to lose due to her goodbye messages.


Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I know I'm wishing on rainbows here, but I'm hoping that Rachel has had a chance to realize how different she is with Brendon out of her reach for the past couple of weeks. She has seemed so much less stressed, and certainly she hasn't gotten into the kind of arguments she regularly had with Brendon (she hasn't had to receive lectures on her behavior, either). I don't think they've spent much time apart since they met on the show last year.

Will be interesting to see how B/R do as a couple after the show is over (particularly if she doesn't win the big money).

Dawn
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07-24-2009

Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dawn a private message Print Post    
i don't want to see sappy happy goodbye messages for the sake of getting a jury vote. i want to see what they really think of eachother lol

and if i believe correctly, rachel thinks there's no way she'll win so in her words she's playing for 2nd place.