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Chere
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08-10-2005

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
Jordan is playing the same exact game she played the last time. Why she hasn't been nominated more than once for eviction is beyond me? If Jordan makes F2 with Rachel, she will most definitely put up an argument for why she should win. It may not be a winning argument, but don't let her talk about getting Rachel the win fool you.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
but don't let her talk about getting Rachel the win fool you.



so don't believe what Jordan says.....hmmmm kind of like Shelly's game.

Great post Chippy!

Holly
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07-21-2001

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Chippy, you make far too much sense around these parts ;)

Chere
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08-10-2005

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
Jordan is one of the best liars in the house. She gets away with it because no one expects her to lie.

ETA: Unlike Shelly she has yet to be exposed.

Oh, and yes Jordan is a hypocrite, but I still love her and Rachel all the same.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Aww. Thanks Bo and Holly. It's soooo frussssssstrating. I feel so alone in the clubhouse. I promise 110% you're my two best friends in the whole entire world. lol

It boggles that anyone besides Jeff left Jordan in the house from week ONE. The fact that she's not been in any danger until pre-PB haunts, and the fact that she's in no danger in the forseeable future astounds. Sorry, but I can't credit her "game"... cause I don't see her as having one. She's just Jordan. If that's enough to win twice, yeah, stick a fork in me...

Chere
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08-10-2005

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
I don't see Jordan winning again. But who's to blame that she's only been nominated once and never targeted thus far? She makes good alliances with strong players therefore making her less of a target. There's no guarantee Jordan will survive F5, but if she does they have 2 more opportunities to vote her out before F2. If she makes F2, I highly doubt this jury will vote for her to win.

Caramella
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07-20-2002

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caramella a private message Print Post    
Jordan may have stayed with her alliance, but she really hasn't done much. So maybe floater isn't the correct term for her, but she HAS floated through the game. Jeff sees her as someone that needs to be protected, and that's exactly how she acts, so she definitely wouldn't deserve to win BB for a second time for basically doing nothing, but laying around and talking. I also don't recall her always coming in second place. She may have come close a couple of times, but she mostly is one of the earlier ones out, then she acts defeated. Not what I'd say deserves to win.

Can't stand Rachel's attitude, but since BB seems to be gearing a lot of these later comps to her advantage...she just might do it.

Yesitsme
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Friday, September 02, 2011 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yesitsme a private message Print Post    
Yep, she is "just Jordan" but she definitely has a good game going. Being the nice, pretty, clueless girl works for her. She lets other people do the dirty work a lot of the time, she lets other people make the big decisions, she seems like she doesn't realize that a game is going on. But it's won her the game before and it can win it for her again this time. I think they keep her in there because they think the fact that she has won before gives them an advantage if they are up against her at the end. And it may!

My first instinct would be to vote for Rachel if I were in the jury house and the two of them were there at the end. As others have said, Jordan has won before and it will be a miracle if Rachel were still there and possibly a reason to reward her. But if Jordan plays it right she will say something to the effect of "It shouldn't matter whether I won before...this is a whole new game. I am here at the end and even though I had to vote people out each week, I tried to be nice to you all and not hurt anyone when we were playing the game. You don't have to be a nasty person to win this game." She can sway them, I think.

Jadajean
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03-23-2008

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 12:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jadajean a private message Print Post    
Just because you are great in competitions doesn't mean you deserve to win. This game is about so much more than that. Rachel's social game sucks - her goodbye messages are childish and show a lack of maturity. Attitude carries a lot of weight IMO. That said, I wouldn't have a problem voting for Jordan to win again. Survivor contestants didn't have a problem voting for Saundra to win again. She sucked at comps but had great social skills.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 1:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
I just re read my post, I put if it is 8-5 then the votes would be, I meant if the final 2 was Rachel Jordon, I must have had a brain fart.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 1:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Jordon is not a floater if the definition is going from side to side depending on who's in power.

Jordon is the ultimate social player. Nearly everyone likes her and nearly everyone wants to keep her around. She has a chance to get to the F2 this year and win for a second time.

This BB game isn't about winning comps it's about not being put up for moms and being booted. Jordon does that masterfully.

I think the reason Dani didn't like Jordon is because she knew that she wan't even in the same class of a social player as Jordon is. You can win comp after comp but the one time you don't you'll be booted off, unless you have the social game that Jordon does.

Dahli
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11-27-2000

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amen Lilfair! so well said :-)

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 3:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Jordan would get Jeff/Shelly votes.

Rachel would get everyone else's votes.

Rachel would win.

Jadajean
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03-23-2008

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 3:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jadajean a private message Print Post    
If Jordan makes it to F2, I predict she will win again regardless on who she is next too.

Paige611
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09-01-2011

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Rachel reminds me so much of Janelle. Every time you thought she was done, she found a way to stay. I love players like that. However, Jordan has played a good game as well. Jordan won HoH at the beginning when there was stiffer competition. Kalia sucks at physical comps and Porsche just started winning because she doesn't have to compete against Brendan, Danielle or Jeff. Jordan isn't as vocal as Rachel, but she knows what's going on in that house. It was her decision to get rid of Dom when Rachel wanted her to get rid of Cassie. She also didn't fall for Shelley's bullsh*t. I would love to see them in the final 2. There's no one else I want to see win.

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    
I think K and A would also vote for J over R

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 3:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Not putting Jordan up doesn't make sense, but then there were the All Stars who let Will and Boogie slide through, or the last Survivor where Rob was kept in. Some people just seem to be made of Teflon.

Paige611
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09-01-2011

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 4:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Paige611 a private message Print Post    
I think Jordan is being underestimated in this game. Jordan hasn't floated through like Adam. She won HoH, unlike Adam or Shelley, she has come very close in winning other comps. She has gone with her "gut feelings" and gotten rid of the right people. She has called people out in the game like Dani. Maybe she hasn't won as much as Rachel, and she's not as vocal as some of the other players, but she is liked and people trust her. She can also read people fairly well. I think she's a serious threat.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 5:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
If they are final two I will be joyful, but especially if Jordan manages to acquit herself the last couple of weeks and give people a reason to vote for her (something outside of her social charms). Right now I am on the Rachel train (and I hate myself for it, might go to counseling). But I can't fathom Jordan winning this all on charm alone while Rachel is pulling her butt to the final round. Jordan needs to take some pain.

Redrose
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09-13-2008

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Redrose a private message Print Post    
I think if Jordon makes it to final 2 either with Rach or Adam
the votes Rach =Brendon,Dani,Por,
Jordan=Jeff, Shelly, Adam,Kal maybe
now if it Adam and Jordan
Adam = Por, Kal,maybe Brendon
Jordam =Jeff,Rach,Dani,Shelly

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 5:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I don't want to say anything about this thread because I may jinx it...

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 5:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
"if" ? lol

hasnt it been R d or R J since week one?

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 4:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
I didn't clarify myself enough when I started this thread.

I just hashed things out in the discussion thread for quite a while. TY Muffin for getting me to the point of what I had tried to say here at first. I really have been thinking about this for weeks.

Previous juries have either voted emotionally, or gameplay. Two choices. Two years ago, they split the vote and let the last one out decide. Can't find a non name calling term to describe this.

But my point is that this jury can vote emotional, gameplay......,or to make BB history by awarding a first ever two time winner of BB. Three choices this year. (All assuming R/J make final two.)

Imagine Dr.Will or ED's face. I digress.

If we see it or we don't, the third option will be discussed, should be discussed. Do they as a jury (who is often forgotten) make history and people know their names because of the votes? Or do they stick with emotion vs. gameplay?

Jury has a third choice this year. Make BB history and be remembered for your vote.

I can see Shelly and Adam's mind spinning. I think they both want to make a mark on BB history and can help Jeff look/campaign the vote this way. Even Dani might like it. Yeah her Dad won, but not twice. And SHE Dani could make it happen.

Assuming a R/J final two, do you the jury want to give the money to Rachel that really did need to be babysat for a week and most people couldn't stand to be around most of the season. Yes she is better now and good at physical comps, but you fund a big wedding (that B/R are trying to get someone else to pay for anyway), and Brendon's education at Rachels expense? He has a masters and Rachel has a Bachelors degree. They can get good paying jobs...now. Rachel wins and in less than 5 years she has nothing again. No money and the giggelo is gone. Then she is too old to make the big bucks in Vegas or even in L.A. where she isn't allowed to waitress.

Or do you want to make BB history and give it to Jordan who has a really good social game? The woman who came into the game two years ago working three jobs and no where to live? The woman that bought her Mom a HOME, instead of spending everything on herself.. The woman that only wants to get to the point where she can live a quiet life as a dental hygentist in years to come so she can be at home with her future children? The woman that can stand up enough to her man to say, hey I am not going to just bow down, move and do what you want. I have my own plans.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 6:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I don't think anyone will remember the jury any more if they vote for Jordan to be two time winner of BB.

I think that being a prior winner can only hurt her as the jury might say, "she already got the money'... But I don't see them ever basing their vote on trying to crown a two time winner.

Scmomx3
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08-10-2011

Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 6:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scmomx3 a private message Print Post    
I have always liked Jordan and her social game. Rachel is just coming into her own in this game and I have really started liking her. I like the idea of a R/J final two. I hope the Jury gives credit where credit is due. I hope they vote on game play and not "I don't want to pay for her wedding". I think if Rachel makes it to the final 2 she deserves to be there and deserves the win. (3wks ago I would have choked saying that lol)

Tissy
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07-28-2003

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I don't think anyone will remember the jury any more if they vote for Jordan to be two time winner of BB.




Yes agree - can`t really see someone boasting they voted for J to win so helped make BB history .... second thoughts ..... maybe Shelly would :-)

Wally
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08-13-2011

Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 8:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wally a private message Print Post    
I don't like the idea that Rachel could blow all the winnings on an overly lavish wedding, instead of investing in real estate!

Realistically, how much of the 500K could/would Rachel potentially spend on a wedding?

Would the money free Rachel from depending on her man? thus expanding her horizons, or would it effectively chain her man-ball to her for good?

Hwest
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07-01-2011

Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hwest a private message Print Post    
It isn't anyone's business on how a winner plans to spend the money. It would not be a factor in my decision if I were casting a vote for the winning HG. Everyone touts Jordan's social game. Let's not forget that J/J were cast as the beloved couple. Dani/Dick were cast as the couple to be feared and B/R were cast as the couple to hate. The House was pre stocked with newbie Jordan/Jeff worshippers and B/R haters. If Rachel can win her way into F2 after being despised, demonized and nominated then she has earned her win. I see Rachel's faults and I see Jordan's faults. I'd rather Rachel the warrior come out on top than Jordan the "sweet" coat tail rider. J/J made plenty of moves to sabotage B/R's game. B/R were the 5th and 6th wheels in the J/J/A/S alliance. Jordan offered herself up as the replacement nominee to insure Brendon would go home. Jeff threw the cornhole veto so he wouldn't make Adam or Shelly mad by saving Brendon. Rachel has held Jordan's hand plenty after Jeff left without characterizing it as "baby sitting" or being condescending in any way. Now, Jordan is riding Rachel's coat tails to the end. I think most of the Jury members will see it that way as well. Sadly, I think Jordan has a better chance of getting to F2 than Rachel.

ITA with Chippy's posts.

Bonbonlover
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Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Wally... I have come to like the Rachel we see the past few weeks... but I know that she will go back to her old puppy dog catty ways as soon as she flings her legs around Brendon.

Spending a load of money on her wedding would be silly. (it;s not as if they are celebrities and loaded with cash)... but she ain't going to get a garage in CA with those winnings.