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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Big Brother USA ARCHIVES: Big Brother 13 - Part 5: Is Big Brother Manipulated? Fixed?: Archive through August 09, 2011 users admin

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Lostfan
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03-10-2010

Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lostfan a private message Print Post    
I think it will be "fixed" for Dani to win HOH this thursday-

would america vote in Dom Vs Cassie?

Oregonguy
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02-12-2006

Thursday, August 04, 2011 - 4:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oregonguy a private message Print Post    
so obiously the last hoh comp favored dani to win. now with dani having a good chance of being put up this week and possible evicted, they have the returning houseguest "COMPETE" against next weeks evictee to see who gets back in the house. to my knowledge this as never happened before, so how convenient for dani.

Mizinvanccouver
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02-21-2003

Thursday, August 04, 2011 - 5:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mizinvanccouver a private message Print Post    
I totally agree with you Oregonguy.

Teacuppy
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06-10-2011

Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 2:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teacuppy a private message Print Post    
Okay so Rachel just said during her discussion with dani. Go ask the dr what Julie said?.. Okay now who is being manipulated? It think it is us!,,

What555456
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06-14-2005

Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 2:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
We're only being manipulated if we think the show unfolds on its own. If we accept the reality that BB continuously manipulates the HG's and rigs the game to help some people win and others lose so the story plays out to maximize ratings, we're not being manipulated.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 1:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
If we accept the reality that BB continuously manipulates , we're not being manipulated.



that explanation is a bit like being kinda pregnant.

if you get my symbolism

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 6:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Are you being manipulated if you know you are being manipulated?

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
The whole premis of the game is mind control and manipulation. Production brings things up, runs scenarios, etc. I do not believe they give away alliences, nor tell them what others are saying or doing.

Every time someone's favorite starts to make a move that we don't agree with it is not because production told them to, it's because they have been questioned and given some things to think about.

The players have never sued, have they? Every one of them knows what production does and obviously it's in their contract. The ones who have the choice are the players, and if they don't like it they can go home.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 7:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
If Brenden wins the vote on Thursday night...

FIXED !!!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 7:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I also don't think Julie should have said anything about whoever was voted out this week had a chance to come back.

Lostfan
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03-10-2010

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 7:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lostfan a private message Print Post    
Kalia even mentioned the other day how the DR kept asking her if she really is making the smart move by puting up Rach and Jeff, telling her that putting up strong players might be coming back-

She said the DR told her it would be a mistake to put up Rach- she also mentioned that it just confused her, but she was keeping the noms and taking her chance.

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 7:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I don't thing they said "it would be a mistake", they probably said "do you think it might be a mistake?" Big difference! We don't know what they say in the DR, ad we can't use their interpretation either. Sometimes they say things like that to throw someone else off their scent. We all know the game of telephone, and after the info is recycled through a few people the original quote is quite different.

Rslover
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11-19-2002

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 7:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rslover a private message Print Post    
ITA with you Lexie.

IF BRENDON WINS THURSDAY, FIXED!!!

What555456
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06-14-2005

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Doesn't matter what they said, they were trying to manipulate her decision.

I have no trouble with them doing this because I know they do this all the time. BB is not going to leave their ratings to chance.

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 7:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
That is what they do What, they have done it from the very beginning of the show. This is part of it, and every year someone tries to make it some sinister plot. It gets old after a while. If they were truly doing what they are being accused of then someone in the past 13 years would have sued them. Each and every one of these people know it's being done and obviously the only ones who don't know what is REALLY being said in there is the viewers.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 7:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
I agree Earthmother.

It is not a sinister plot. But neither should people be thinking that what unfolds in the House is all based on the dynamics among the HG's. It is not. BB's use of the DR has simply taken the place of the banners we had in the first two years -- only they do it covertly.

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 7:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
That is the premis of this experiment in human behavior. The only difference is that they must also let the rest of the contestants manipulate as well. They also need ratings in order for us to continue to enjoy our experience.

All the calls to AG and the hype is just what they want, it's the best way for them to gather the information they need to rate the show.

I love this game and it is my summer of fun. I choose to watch it regardless of what goes on behind the scenes. If the manipulation is ruining the show for you then perhaps taking a break will help. I don't know why some want to pressure CBS or AG or think the show should be sued for their involvement. To me that's like saying you want the show to end.

Lazylu
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04-09-2010

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lazylu a private message Print Post    
Isn't that what "Big Brother" means, they try to manipulate or interfere in your life and try to get you to do what "Big Brother" wants?

Stingerman
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07-03-2005

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stingerman a private message Print Post    
Are you kidding!! It's all about ratings and you can bet your mothers uncle that the producers rig contests and events and whatever else to get the best possible ratings for the show.

Oh and Big Brother isn't the only "Reality" show that does this as Survivor and The Amazing Race do the same thing.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
Can someone cite examples of the competitions being rigged?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
It's very hard to determine if any of the competitions are rigged. For example, early in the last endurance competition someone suggested that it was rigged to favor taller players like Jeff and Brendon because they didn't have to bend their arms as much. However, three of the shorter players were the last ones remaining.

They may not always be fair, well designed and well run but I don't think they are rigged. Those are different things.

Nessietessie
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02-03-2007

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nessietessie a private message Print Post    
They definitely want Rachel to stay for ratings..love her or hate her....hope they do not provide her with "answers" if she plays to get back in the house (if she is voted out)

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 12:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
They all know what the comps are going to be for the most part, they are almost always the same year to year. I do not see any of them specifically pulled out of their hats at any given moment to give anyone a step up.

We have no idea what this next comp will be, but I'm not certain that they don't have two different ones depending on who got the most votes to come back and who gets evicted. I don't see them doing the task together. I don't think this is manipulation, but actually more fair to those competing.

Foolscap
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09-04-2004

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Foolscap a private message Print Post    
Earth mother, I just want to thank you for being a consistent voice of reason.

Frogichik
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06-11-2002

Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Frogichik a private message Print Post    
Do we have to have this thread every year, lol?

Don't we all "get it" by now. This is not a "game show", so the same rules do not apply.

EVERY single "reality" show is producer influenced. EVERY ONE!

Just enjoy the show for what it is.