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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 1:31 pm
LOL Jush, I have the same reaction when folks here post to Joyceelaine, as my name is Joyce.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 1:36 pm
The Trojan horse excuse was her way of keeping close ties with the other side of the house without being obvious. And that was brilliant gaming, IMHO! Unfortunately when she was nasty to Jordon, and celebrating with 'the enemy' she lost me.
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 1:51 pm
Shelly celebrated with both sides. The vets when Brendon returned and newbies after Kalia won the DE HoH. For all the "brilliant gaming" she has achieved, she's been sloppy in her celebrations. Glad Jordan and Rachel are not overlooking Shelly's duplicity. She's burned them once, don't let it happen again.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 2:03 pm
Yes, and for all the claiming she did to R/J that she would push them to final 2 and that's her only objective; she clearly states in the Diary Room that she's lying. At least her DRs are honest now.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 2:10 pm
lol... who exactly isn't lying about now? Adam who has deals with the other five, Jordan and Rachel who made deals with all of them or K/P who made deals with all of them? Kinda like Who's on First.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 2:11 pm
I agree, the trojan horse thing was brilliant. The celebration after Jeff left and P won HOH, huge mistake. I don't watch feeds, don't have BBAD, and I like Shelly. I think for the TV only crowd she looks like someone who's playing hard, but not viciously.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 2:33 pm
The problem with Shelly is that she already hurt Jordan. And she apologized for it, and begged for forgiveness, claiming she was being true now. In the DR, she claimed she didn't mean to hurt her, and she really did want to be with them... until she didn't. She kept saying "wait until you see my DRs..." And now she is repeating the EXACT same lie to Jordan: I am only here to get you to final 2. While her DRs are saying something entirely different. Yes, "wait until you see my DRs"... indeed. That's the problem with Shelly. These are things she does, that no one else does. and that is why she is not well liked.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 2:41 pm
Shelly was my fascination also until about week three...Then I saw the BS of Jordan fawning...She started telling about her life outside and what she could do for her favorites..Being a trojan horse is fine, as long as you don't get caught and Shelly got caught big time... because Shelly talked. Talking gets you in trouble when you go back and forth, leaving neither side trusting you and that's what happened. Shelly was used by Dani, when Dani saw what she could do about Rachel then Dani threw her to the wolves. Shelly could have done well, but she couldn't stop herself from patting herself on the back about being the great manipulator.
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Me_poster
Member
03-02-2010
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 2:41 pm
i don't think it's fair that jordon was the only one hurt. shelly was pretty hurt by how she was treated by jeff all day. people seem to forget that shelly is also a person with feelings.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 2:43 pm
No one else betrays their alliance or says different in the DR than they say to a fellow hg? The premise that Shelly "hurt" Jordan is one I don't ascribe to so...
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 2:50 pm
How did Jeff treat Shelly all day last Thursday?
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Me_poster
Member
03-02-2010
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 2:55 pm
didn't they fight all afternoon last thursday? in his own words her said that they could "work through" their problem and sucked up to her for a vote. she wanted to talk to him and get things straightened out and he wouldn't do it. he only yelled at her for "exploring other options" pretty much was planning her demise (yet again). trusting rachel before trusting her. etc etc etc.
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 3:07 pm
I thought Shelly seeked out Jeff before the live show to talk? I know his plan was not to not approach Shelly until after the live show. I honestly don't know what happened before or after the feeds were cut for the live show, that's why I asked. Saying how he treated Shelly all day seemed a matter of fact to me.
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Me_poster
Member
03-02-2010
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 3:43 pm
i am just giving my interpretation of what they showed on sunday.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 4:21 pm
Yeah, Jeff wanted to wait until after the vote. Shelly approached Jeff and yes, Jeff was angry at her because SHE broke her promise. It's hard to claim "hurt", when you are the one who didn't do what you promised you would do.... sorry, not buying it.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 4:27 pm
Well then, Jeff hurt Dani and JJ hurt Brendon, un, twice and Shelly hurt Cassie and blahblahblah. It's bb and as every hg since the beginning of time always says... it's just a game. Shame on you for letting anyone you've known less time than the lifespan of a fruitfly be able to HURT you. No such animal IMHO... not in the game of BB. If so, the more "hurt", the better else we'd be house cleaning our bellybuttons instead of watching the show. lol
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 4:31 pm
Well, again, I think there is a big difference between breaking an alliance, and lying about an alliance - and promising to be your lifelong best friend and buddy and trustworthy and loyal forever for life, and then screwing you over. There is a BIG difference. And again, because there is a difference is why so many people find Shelly's behavior abhorrent, when they aren't bothered by Jeff or Dani or Brendon, etc.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 4:36 pm
Lordy, they promise lifelong friendship every season and talk about being best friends and all that happy horse poopy. Besides, I think Shelly is quite genuine in her adolation (though I don't get it) and desire to be friends OUT of the game. Like she said, she'll pick her family over her newest best friends. Can't say as I blame her. It's called strategy. Had production not pulled the plug on her, she'd be in fairly good shape as we speak. It's all about WHO she betrayed IMO... always was.
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Jackie2850
Member
10-28-2010
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 4:53 pm
I think Shelly is the only houseguest that's promised to give people jobs, give them vacations, prosper them financially...
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Jushvnfn
Member
07-29-2006
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 4:58 pm
... and a diamond ring that belonged to her grandma! I still think Rachel should have taken it!
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Muffin
Member
08-29-2007
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 5:06 pm
Chippy, I feel like you do, but we are in the minority here. I guess Shelly wasn't allowed to change her game when she realized that with JJR, she had NO chance of getting to the end. How dare her make a move to try to win the money?
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Beocca
Member
07-17-2005
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 5:28 pm
I think she should have taken the ring also, but who knows the grandma story might have been fake and also you are pretty desperate to give someone your grandmas diamond ring, maybe it was a fake.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 5:31 pm
Shelly never offered to give the ring to Rachel. She offered to let her hang on to it until she went to jury. Giving and loaning are two different things. I'm sick of hearing how Shelly broke Jordan's heart because they promisted as friends to go to the final 4 together. Jordan knows and we all know because she and Jeff said it.."they planned to take Rachel", but the friends didn't think Shelly needed to know that. If they had beat her to the punch they would have been applauded for their expert play. When she figured it out then all of a suddent they want to play the victim card. These are adults and they know how this game works. Shelly trusted them and they lied to her which I'm sure hurt her feelings too. But she risked getting slammed by the fans and by Jordan to play her own game. It's the game. You nor I have any idea if she has the contacts to help them with jobs. No matter what she does some will believe she has ulterior motives, because they can't get over the Jordan love. Of course none of the others have those motives, they are just being nice. Brendon and Rachel did everything they could to get Dani to put Jeff up and out. They were in an allience too. Jeff threw a pov so he wouldn't get his hands dirty when Brendon was voted out. So because they didn't agree to be friends that's okay?
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 5:36 pm
Muffin You can make all the moves you want in the game but if you get caught you may pay a price.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 5:36 pm
I honestly don't know what happened before or after the feeds were cut for the live show Adam told Jeff that Shelly wasn't going to vote with them. That's when Jeff called Shelly in and started yelling at her. He claimed she had no right to explore other options because she was in his allience. When she told him that everyone was exploring other options he lied and said he didn't.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 5:49 pm
Actually that's not exactly how I saw it. Adam was upset with Shelly as well and asked her why she was campaigning for Dani in front of Jeff in the purple room and Jeff was looking at Shelly for an answer and she did her same song and dance and got upset IMO 
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 5:51 pm
Noooo Jeff wasn't yelling and cussing at Shelly.......that is why CBS had to "bleep" Jeff.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 5:55 pm
Only she did her song and dance?? Jeff didn't tell her that he never explored other options, that only she did. Didn't he already jump on her earlier in the day because he overheard..right! (Adam) that she came to him and tried to get him to save Dani? Adam set the whole thing up and came out smelling like a rose. She'd already made up her mind anyway, but him yelling at her like that and then following her around begging was a little too late.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 5:58 pm
Kar, How did she lie about her allience?
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