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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Big Brother USA ARCHIVES: Big Brother 13 - Part 5: Is Big Brother Manipulated? Fixed?: Archive through September 02, 2011 users admin

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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - The clown shoes was clearly Jeff's to win. They hardly expected him to throw one in the gutter.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Out of the last 5 comps, K/P won 3, and Rachel won the last 2.....

I'm not seeing a pattern, personally.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
oh, Karuuna, there you go...throwing logic and facts in. *WINK*

What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
The show has not been on here yet -- but I usually will watch it even after it has been spoiled for me here. (no one's fault but my own for having it spoiled for me!).

But not gonna watch it tonight. Another set up for the retreads -- this time Rachel. And Jordan continues coasting along doing nothing.

Now that we know who AG wants for F2 -- Rachel and Jordan -- we might as well just fast forward to the jury vote.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I guess if you throw in the handy dandy duo twist that is another thing. But of course they planned that way in advance as well. Even Rachel and Jordan couldn't believe their good fortune on that one.

Ark
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07-10-2001

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ark a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, K won HOH on questions, P won HOH on a skill. It was time for a physical HOH.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Unless you consider the POV competition to be part of the pattern. And it is part of the pattern because it strongly determined who would leave this week and along with the duo twist prevented the newbies from dominating the game.

Anyway, I don't care all that much. It's just a reality game show. :-)

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
I assume this is categorized as a "reality" show instead of a "game" show for a reason - that reason would be manipulation. And if they manipulate it towards fan favorites, I am down with that. I want a Jordan/Rachel F2 and I don't care who wins! Actually, I would like to see a F3 instead of an F2 and have Adam in there. Like Survivor sometimes does.

Ark
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07-10-2001

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ark a private message Print Post    
I think POV is always a skill or physical. I don't remember them doing one just standing in a booth & answering questions but I could be wrong.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
I seem to remember during the twins season a POV that no one won.

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Jimmer I completely agree. I've never felt that they have blatently set up some comps to favor a player. But I do think this year there have been a lot of physical comps. The minute I saw Rachel throw her legs around that dummy, I could have just gone to bed, there was no question who was going to win that. How many times have we seen her in that position?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think POV is always a skill or physical.

I recall a POV in All Stars where they had to give up things to stay in the competition.

Anyway, the point is that they had two very physical competitions in a row which clearly favored Rachel along with a duo twist that kept Jordan in the game. Whether all this was pre-planned and totally coincidental or not is the question. I find that hard to believe but maybe I'm just cynical.

And I really do like Rachel and Jordan. In fact, I'm not unhappy with anyone who is left. They are all doing their best in different ways. :-)

Ark
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07-10-2001

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ark a private message Print Post    
I guess future BB players should be prepared to do something besides nap & eat all summer because there are probably going to be some physical comps. It's too bad this years players weren't aware of it.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
From Earthmother:

The minute I saw Rachel throw her legs around that dummy....

Wait! Did I miss something? Is Jeff back in the house?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I don't think it is a question of napping and sleeping. Factors like age differences, body types and physical ability are pretty much determined at the time that BB casts these players. I agree that it is unfortunate that no one left in the house is able to compete with Rachel in physical competitions. And I don't think that BB should discontinue physical competitions solely for that reason. However, I don't think they should have two very physical competitions in a row that favor one player.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 9:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
I think Porsche could hang with Rachel in a physical competition. I was surprised that she did not stay in the 'hang on the dummy' longer.

Jag2000
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07-01-2009

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 10:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jag2000 a private message Print Post    
I agree Jimmer..the last 2 comps. were attuned for Rachael to win especially since Porsche could not play this HOH.

Bevdan
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05-09-2011

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 10:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bevdan a private message Print Post    
I think they thought this comp was for Adam to win.

Rn2b
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08-12-2011

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 11:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rn2b a private message Print Post    
Adam? He smokes like a fiend and isn't exactly agile.

Saguaro
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06-21-2005

Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 11:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saguaro a private message Print Post    
As soon as I saw the HOH comp the only two people who had a chance to win it were Porsche, and Rachel, and Porsche wasn't playing.

Christy358
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07-10-2007

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 12:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Christy358 a private message Print Post    
The HOH that Kalia won was Adams to win. And that would have made him, in a double eviction week, the man in charge. Would have made him pick a side, play the game.

I do not think the powers that be want a certain person to win. I do think they try to make the game and the show interesting.

Just like I always cheer for overtime in a sporting event......

Toolhound
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06-22-2007

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 1:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toolhound a private message Print Post    
When I saw what the competition was last night I did not even turn on the feeds. I knew Rachel would win and so did production. Adam and Kalia did not have a chance and Jordan with her spoiled brat attitude knew Rachel will save her again.

I don't mind because I wanted to see Rachel win, but I think it was a no brainer.

Maineiac
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08-24-2009

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 4:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maineiac a private message Print Post    
Like I said before, if the HOH was a Q&A and Kalia kicked butt, there would be no need for this thread...right?!

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 4:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Hehehe Maineiac!

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, September 02, 2011 - 5:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Of course Big Brother is manipulated, albeit unsuccessfully most times...

Definition of Big Brother:
Big Bro

Definition 3b is the one relevant to this show.

If the producers just wanted to throw a bunch of people in a secluded house and let them duke it out among themselves for half a mil, they would have named the show Survivor, Suburban Style!!!