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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Big Brother USA ARCHIVES: Big Brother 13 - Part 5: Is Big Brother Manipulated? Fixed?: Archive through July 27, 2011 users admin

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Foolscap
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09-04-2004

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Foolscap a private message Print Post    
Marksman, you know, I agree with you and don't want to create the wrong impression. I have no reason to imagine that production lies to the house guests in the DR. Or that they need or want to. Like you said, we don't know. I was just trying to allow for any possibility, and that it wouldn't matter to me if they did.

Gemma120in2002
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07-05-2003

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 6:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gemma120in2002 a private message Print Post    
No. I don't think the show is fixed. Why would they pick one hamster over the other to win?

What555456
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06-14-2005

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 7:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Ratings Gemma. It all hinges on who people want to watch each week -- either because they love them or hate them.

BB is NOT going to jeopardize its ratings and money simply because of some sense of propriety.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 7:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Well then how does that explain the extremely unpopular winners? I think BB tries to manipulate the outcome to some extent but they aren't always successful. As I said earlier, look how bad they are at making their twists work.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 8:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
They don't have to be popular in order to keep the ratings up. They simply have to be people that the viewing public wants to watch.

And, remember the ratings are based on the viewing public, not those of us who obsess over this show. Favorable or unfavorable on the Net does not always equate to the same among TV viewers.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
So true, What. ED is the best example of that. Fan fav all the way although I still can't wrap my brain around that one and voila... Jeff and the super dooper veto and don't even get me started on America's choices. The edits also speak loud and clear.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 9:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
I agree about the editing, Chippy. I found it interesting that the Wednesday show (I think it was Wednesday) was all about how horrible and annoying Rachel is. Then come Thursday and...what do you know!...she is HoH again.

Coincidence? I think not.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 9:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I thought Big Brother was considered a game show, and if that is true there are laws about rigging a game show.

when alison grodner took over, it was changed. she is also the one who started with the lame twists.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Monday, July 25, 2011 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Gronder has been there since BB2 but she was not in charge until BB8.
Ever since BB8 the out right interference with the game by production has been very evident. Prior to BB8 production did in fact encourage drama and in some cases caused drama for entertainment purposes.
Grodner is not happy with just drama she really hates the unexpected way the contestants react so she orchestrates conflict among players that actually changes the out come of the game.

This season it is quite obvious that they wanted a TV campaign to vote Jeff back into the house.

First the DR pushed Rachel for a backdoor and when she didn't bite all of the sudden Dani hates Jeff. Dani had already said that she wanted Jeff and Jordan to be in jury together because they would be two votes for her and then she changes her mind and wants Jordan mad at her in the jury house. That makes no sense at all.
Jeff is not that strong of a player and there is no reason that any of the vets should be threatened by his game play.
Jordan is a way bigger threat and they mistakenly think she is dumb and they don't want to waste and HOH on her.
I really do hope that Jordan wins the show again because it would PO every singe previous winner who said she did not deserve to win BB11.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Monday, July 25, 2011 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Caprica, and what's funny is that in BB11, only Michelle won more competitions than Jordan! Michelle won 5, Jordan won 4, Jeff and Kevin each won 3, and everyone else had 2 or fewer. These were the four people that were generally considered the 'weakest' players in their season.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 6:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Does Dani play for HOH this week? If so, I'll put my psychic cap on and try to predict the future - Dani will win the next HOH. Why?

- It's likely an endurance HOH and Dani is strong in that area
- Dani has a lot of pent up energy not competing for weeks
- Dani will be motivated by Dom's eviction and her conflict with the couples
- Rachel can't compete and none of the other people will be as good at endurance.

So if I get this right does it mean that BB is fixed?

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 6:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
If all else fails, sarcasm. lol

Pippin04
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10-26-2007

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 6:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pippin04 a private message Print Post    
Yes Jimmer if you are right we will all say you are the one who fixed it and work for BB. :D

We all know your secret now.

Pippin04
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10-26-2007

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 6:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pippin04 a private message Print Post    
Btw I fully expect Dani to win the next hoh.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
The other night on BBAD I heard Jordan telling Shelly that she was determined to win the next endurance comp. And we know that when she puts her heart and soul into a comp, she does well.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
The other night on BBAD I heard Jordan telling Shelly that she was determined to win the next endurance comp. And we know that when she puts her heart and soul into a comp, she does well.

Was Jordan the first or second one off the banana in the first HOH competition? Jordan has NEVER won an endurance comp.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Honestly Lexie, I thought she had. Oh well. Maybe she'll surprise us, or Jeff. I mean he's strong and muscular...

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Depends on the comp whether mean and strong trumps thin and agile. I'd love for it to be full on mental myself- where the only one who wants it bad enough outlasts them all and it doesn't matter if you're fat, strong, dumb, or pretty. lol

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
been watching feeds extremely closely. i know it looks like dani is being set up to win but i think its adam.

dani CANT win this first HOH and i think she knows it which is why she's so unhappy she's been targeted by other 4.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
That's okay Mame... I just can't stand the thought of Jordan getting credit for something which would never happen in a million years.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 11:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Too late, Lexie. lol

Kappy
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06-28-2002

Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 8:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
Is there really any doubt that Jordan will win the HOH on Thursday?

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 9:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Anyone but Dani, Brendan or Rachel please!

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
Watch for Dominic to get evicted and the be brought back into the house.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
By the way if they fixed the game for who they want to win Jessie would have won twice.