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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 4:03 am
OCD......Hmmmmmmm. For those of us that are a bit older. Back when I was younger anyone who wanted to wash their hands with soap (not a rinse and go)after using the restroom, clean the area of the kitchen where raw meat had been prepared, worried about germs in public areas....were considered OCD. Now we have hand washing alerts, the news reminding us to clean our kitchens because raw meats can affect our fresh produce (There are even special cutting boards and knives being marketed for this.), and hand sanitizer is available everywhere and a bottle of it in almost of our pockets/purses. Light switches??. Give it a few years we might learn something. Back in the day real concerns were labeled as a mental disorder. Some people know the dangers ahead of us, some have nervous habits......but I can't call anyone OCD even after watching them for 3 months. Hair pulling/pawing.....really a mental disorder?
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 5:20 am
I'm curious what Jordan's hair would look like if she let it dry naturally without straightening it. I'm older and I miss when girls with long hair didn't go to extremes to straighten it. I've noticed J's hair is a little wavy wet I think it would look pretty. Oh well.
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Maineiac
Member
08-24-2009
| Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 7:11 am
Shenanagon, my 16 yr old daughter has beautiful curly, wavy hair but she spends every other day putting extreme heat on it to straighten it and damage it. Ugh!! It drives me crazy. I wish the 80's curly hair would come back.lol
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 6:23 pm
For the vast majority of persons with TM, there are specific settings that lend themselves toward prompting the grooming response. The most common settings include, but are not limited to, reading, watching T.V., speaking on the phone, lying in bed, or driving. Being alone is almost an essential part of providing the impetus for engaging in the act of hair pulling. There are occasions where being with a very familiar loved one doesn’t prohibit the habit, despite regular feedback from the loved one to stop pulling. It tends to be more common for the grooming response (i.e., hair twirling) to surface in public, since this behavior possesses less shame and tends to be performed without conscious awareness. i had said MAY indicate- i knew a guy who actually would pluck at his beard until he had Bald spots. It wasnst a conscious thing. since people seemed genuinely surprised HERE is more info. More Than Just a Hair Pull The condition of hair pulling might actually fall under four separate diagnostic categories, those being: 1) Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD), 2) Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder (OCPD as in perfectionisms), 3) a Habit Disorder, or 4) an Impulse Control Disorder. There is a great deal of debate in psychology as to whether TM falls under the category of a Habit Disorder or OCD. In order to illustrate the four possible diagnostic categories of hair pulling, the following four definitions and their corresponding vignettes are offered.
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Ark
Member
07-09-2001
| Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 7:05 pm
Oh my, have we diagnosed Jordan with some disorder? I run my fingers through my hair when I get tired or bored but have not been diagnosed with any disorder yet.
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Lostfan
Member
03-10-2010
| Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 7:14 pm
I know I guess there are alot of "internet doctors" on here - LOL
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 7:38 pm
I really have this bad habit, and let me tell you what goes through my mind when pulling and patting my hair. 1. I'm bored. Twirling my hair offers a simulating sensation while my brain is not engaged. I have to be careful not to do this when someone is telling me a boring story. 2. I actually enjoy finding the hairs on my head with the most kinks in them and pulling it out, examining it, and feeling it over and over. Then I throw them out. Ok that is more than anyone on this forum ever needed to know! But I think it stems from lack of engagement and boredom. It is also somewhat of a nervous habit I guess. I'm sure I look like a nutter while thus engaged in hair-plucking activities. As far as I know, I'm not special ed or anything, I'm fairly smart. So don't judge me! lol
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Buba1113
Member
07-20-2009
| Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 7:42 pm
What is TM?
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 7:49 pm
I've never seen Jordan actually pull out any of her hair, just play with it. She probably does it a lot more in the house than she does outside the house because of the amount of stress she is under, with no other ways to relieve it. There's really also not a lot she can do with her hands while in the house; playing with her hair gives her something to do.
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Beocca
Member
07-17-2005
| Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 7:59 pm
I cannot believe the things that people are saying on thus thread much less the disbelieve that there is a thread like this at all!
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Lazylu
Member
04-09-2010
| Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 8:02 pm
I don't believe there is anything wrong with Jordan. I think it is a nervous habit. Some people smoke during stressful times, she plays with her hair. IMO
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Beocca
Member
07-17-2005
| Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 8:07 pm
There is nothing wrong with her! People are all born differently, with different habits, likes, dislikes, some really smart some not so and some in between. That is what makes us unique. There is nothing wrong with jorden!
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Sunday, September 11, 2011 - 6:19 am
I don't think that Jordan "pulls" her hair. I think pawing is a better discription of what she is doing. It looks more like she is checking to be sure it is in place, more than trying to unconciously pull her hair out. Pulling out hair until one's head is bleeding is very different from pawing or petting hair, so I really don't see how what Jordan does could even be remotely connected to that kind of a disorder. But then I've never been to medical school so all I'm going on is common sense.
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Rn2b
Member
08-12-2011
| Monday, September 12, 2011 - 3:24 pm
Trichotillomania requires that the hair is pulled out and the differential is that it should be distinguished from normal female twirling or "petting" or straightening. Jordan is just a nervous person IMO and that is her habit. On the exit interview her feet were twitching like mad. She has high anxiety which might coincide with a GAD type of anxiety than anything else, but likely here it was just situational.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Monday, September 12, 2011 - 8:21 pm
omg Ha ha ha bleeding>>? this has gone far enough. ok pretty obvious people do NOT have any recall as to my original post so HERE goes. Sunshyne4u Monday, September 05, 2011 - 2:28 pm compulsive hair fiddling, twirling, plucking can be indicative of a mental disorder and of course, stress remember kaysar? his hair was in spikes by the time his masterplan had sunk LOL so hopefully to end this silliness, Do i call Kaysar mentally ill??? do i say HE HAS OCD or TM? never said that jordan HAD IT either but people here seemed to not understand that it CAN be a legitimate disorder. Wayyyy back when this season started there were MULTIPLE comments about Jordan's Bald spots, especially on her temples. if you look at the pics posted on page one of this thread, you will see how very very thin her hair is where she is constantly tugging on it. Am i jumping to any medical Conclusion? heck no, just putting out info for those who were not capable to look it up for themselves.
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