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Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 5:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
KARUNNA........ITA with ALL of your posts....

You have Shelly PEGGED! She has been motivated by her jealous hatred of Rachel and Rachel's position as "growing best friend" to Jordon. Shelly lost her mind a few weeks ago, and her irrational hatred has become uncomfortable for people to listen to/watch (including most HGs)

Oliviamimi
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05-30-2009

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 5:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oliviamimi a private message Print Post    
Shelly is not used to being thwarted. It gets in her craw. She can't shake it. She is so used to getting what she wants that the fact that she has been unsuccessful and that her grand plans didn't succeed that she is just beside herself. All of her intense negativity toward Rachel is simply because Rachel pegged her.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 5:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
(Jimmer, that's one of my favorite movies too. :-) )

Regarding Shelly, no matter what, I feel really bad that she is going to feel so guilty and upset by the threats to her family, esp. Josie. It is going to be so awful for her when she finds out.

Different people are more appealing and likable to the majority of others. When Shelly overheard Jordan crying and telling Rachel she felt like a fool for trusting Shelly, and Shelly overheard that, Shelly was leaning over Jordan (who was lying down) pointing and raising her voice. It seemed so aggressive (and frankly, it was aggressive). It was very off putting.

When Jordan jumped up and started screaming in Shelly's face, it didn't seem off putting at all.

Imo. And yes, I am a bigger fan of Jordan than of Shelly, but I don't love or hate either of them.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 5:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Earthmother, I don't understand your post at all.

When Shelly went nutso over Rachel was after Rachel was on the block, not while. So it makes no sense to say she would have voted Rachel off, she hasn't had the opportunity since she (Shelly) lost her mind.

I never said Jeff had a right to tell Shelly to make nice to Rachel. I'm just saying it helped push Shelly's fragile mind over the edge. She had a complete emotional breakdown over the Rachel thing, and since then she has not been able to get past it.

Thus, I'm saying she is playing irrationally, rather than thoughtfully.

So she voted to keep Dani, and then she voted out Jeff. And if you saw her vote, she did it with anger, not thoughtfulness. And thus, she screwed her game.

No one can deny that it was a poor game move, considering where it left her. The next one out.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 5:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Has someone played rationally? lol If so, I slept through it.

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
Jeff did not treat Shelly like his servant. She chose to be part of that alliance, and any other alliance she was in. He was trying to get her to keep peace with Rachel and to get Rachel to keep peace with Shelly.

I haven't seen any slave/master role here.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 6:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Actually, Adam has played very rationally. :-)

Sure, they all play somewhat emotionally, but not irrationally. There's a difference.

Doesn't really matter, tho. She did herself in, they're all outside now sharing all the stories she told and the deals she made and comparing the lies.

She's toast. She did herself in.

Weinermr
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08-18-2001

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Weinermr a private message Print Post    
Jeff's ego got him kicked out of the game. He thought he was lord and master of the House and that Shelly should just step in line and do what he wanted, how he wanted. Shelly dared to be playing her own game, and Jeff paid the price for trying to squelch her - among other things.

That doesn't mean I like Shelly, but I understand her reactions to being stuck under Jeff's thumb.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 6:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
They stupidly believed her campaign to gain their trust. That part of her game Shelly was great at. I'm surprised the other houseguests are just now realizing this and talking about it. But they all saw what she did to Jeff. Jeff didn't hurt Shelly's game she hurt his. Good for her, but when you make a big move, aka Dani, it can blow up in her face.

Vickilynn
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07-29-2010

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 6:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vickilynn a private message Print Post    
I really dont think it was the Dani vote or the fact she voted Jeff out. I think her cont. talk of integrity and morals why she has repeatedly lied. The mean personal things she has said about other HGs. Had she been tell the fan in the DR this was all her plan. I believe things would be much different for her now fan wise. That being said I do not condone the crazy out of the house threats on her family and her job that is way beyond normal behavior and anyone involved should be charged with harassment

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Don't forget Shelly was instrumental in keeping Rachel the week Lawon got evicted. Out of the blue Shelly started telling Kalia to save Rachel (I couldn't understand her reasons), she wanted Porsche up because she thought Porsche was re-telling everything to the other side. Kalia of course didn't feel like but still wondering who to put up to replace Jeff so that Rachel could stay. Lawon's offering to go on the block saved the day for everyone but mainly because they wanted Rachel to stay. The excuse for Rachael staying was that the evicted was coming right back in the house and with power! But it was Shelly who planted this idea in Kalia's mind and the others. Daniele was the only one who didn't agree and at that point was even questioning Kalia's good sense.

So Shelly kickstarted "Save Rachel" campaign, and Rachel is here to evict Shelly on Thursday. How's that for irony!

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
When Shelly went nutso over Rachel was after Rachel was on the block, not while. So it makes no sense to say she would have voted Rachel off, she hasn't had the opportunity since she (Shelly) lost her mind.

Jeff and Rachel were on the block together and she voted Jeff out. If she had such an irrational hate for Rachel she would have voted her out. Jordan and Adam voted out Rachel and Porshe and Shelly voted out Jeff. Jeff believed everything Rachel said about Shelly and continually made her swear she was not playing him, and she wasn't. She went nutso on Rachel when Rachel lied to Jordan about Shelly wanting to put her up and send her out. Shelly never did that, but Jeff badgered her about it and told her to make nice with Rachel and she just couldn't continue doing it. That was when she started to make her move away. She tried to tell them J/J that Rachel was coming after her and instead of backing his FRIEND he forced her to be the good girl and forgive and forget.

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
I don't understand how someone can force someone else to vote for someone. The camera is there - Julie is there - you just vote. No one is there to make you vote!

If a player wants to go to the other side - they just go. No one can actually stop them from going.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
There was a reason Rachel was coming after her.

The same reason now that everybody wants her gone.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 7:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Jeff and Rachel were on the block together and she voted Jeff out.

But that was after they had their blow up. At the moment she voted Jeff, it was Jeff she was furious with. And it showed in how she voted, her tone of voice, and the little kiss off.

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 7:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
instead of backing his FRIEND he forced her to be the good girl and forgive and forget.

While I might add that his plan was never to take Shelly to the final 3 it was to take Rachel. Notice I'm not mentioning Jordan, because she was in total compliance to get Shelly, her friend, who she trusted, out while they took Racehl in her place. They were all playing dirty. The only reason Shelly might be leaving this week is because of the PD, not because she made a bad move.

You bet she was mad at him after their blow up. Did you not hear him tell her that she was not following his plan...what about her plan? He couldn't care less about her plan, it was all about him and she knew it.

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Well, not exactly... it could be Adam going. The fact that it's Shelly going is because of her backstabbing her own alliance.

However, she should get some credit for saving Rachel when Lawon got evicted. Seems to me no one (the players) is remembering that one...

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 7:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
Shelly did it all to herself. She made the decision now she will pay the price.

Even her new so called alliance want her gone sooner rather than later. She cannot be trusted period.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
She'd have been smarter to keep Jeff. I can't figure out why she thought Kalia and Porsche were her allies. Oh well.

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 7:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Who knows Shen, but they were offering her something that she knew Jeff was not going to give her. He made it clear by taking the things Rachel said about her (let's not forget that was a lie) and made Shelly prove she didn't, not Rachel prove she did. That's the difference.
She was shoved aside for Rachel, who was not in their allience. The fact that she was in J/J allience was a bit of information Jeff didn't share with Shelly. He kept telling her, his friend, the one he trusted, that they only needed Rachel for a vote. She saw through it. The only reason they would now claim they are going to get rid of her and keep Adam has nothing to do with Shelly it has to do with the side deal Adam has with them, that they have also chosen not to share with Shelly. So J/J P/K/A all have side deals and have been playing all sides but Shelly is somehow the most vicious liar in all of BB history and is the least liked, least trusted and evil. I am either missing something or what I've seen and heard are all figments of my imagination.

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 7:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
EM the others did not profess to be their best buds and then stab them in the back.

Shelly would not still be in the game if it were not for Jeff and Jordan. They both (especially Jordan) kept telling everyone that Shelly was ok when others wanted to get rid of her cause she was floating her way through playing all sides.

No one trusted Shelly and they were right not to. Shelly lies so well she believes herself. She does not even back down from a lie when she is caught red handed. She merely goes on the attack. (ask Adam!)

There is n nothing about her game play that I can get behind.

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Are you saying Jeff and Jordan didn't think of Shelly as their friend and she didn't think that they were friends. What makes Shelly making a deal without J/J different than J/J making a deal without Shelly? How is that different. Jeff: "Shel I thought we were friends" what was he going to say when he voted her out to keep Rachel? "Shell I know we are friends but I have to do this for me and Jordan"... What is the difference? Should she have just layed down and waited for her trusted friends to turn on her?

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
I don't think Jeff planned to vote out Shelly until the final 4 deal they all agreed on. Regardless, hindsight is 20/20 and what if's can go on and on. Shelly attempted a big move and it's a risk, she took it, good for her but it hasn't been a good move, it's put her in a position of having no allies when she did have an alliance of 5. She voted Jeff out now she's going out. Just like Jeff voting out Dani and now he's gone. It's a pattern!!

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Well there is only 2 weeks left so her odds of getting that chance were probably not in her favor. She struck while the iron was hot. It would have been brilliant except for the PD. She has worked hard and earned her place even though her methods were not liked by some. She may have blown her game, but so did all those sitting in the jury right now.

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 7:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
Jeff voted to keep Shelly over Brendon. Shelly has not been up with Rachel so who is to say he would not have voted out Rachel and kept Shelly again.

Its not about making a side deal to keep yourself safe, Shelly was safe, She chose her path now karma is a knocking

Shelly blew it in my opinion. No bones from me