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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 9:30 pm
Sun, check your mail.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 7:42 am
The sense of entitlement has turned me off of BB for several seasons now. Remember the first time they didn't have the luxury comp, and how upset the houseguests were? They now walk into the house expecting to have all the comforts of home. They don't have to work for luxuries like the hot tub or hot water, they don't have a food budget (and apparently get pretty much whatever they want). I really much preferred watching them earn things, rather than watching them play college dorm for an entire summer. They get paid to have a vacation in a house where very need is met (except for contact with the outside world).
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Callasin
Member
06-21-2005
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 8:09 am
I love BBUK Sun but I don't think their tasks would work here. Our format is just too different. There is no "Big Brother" just production members that the houseguests know by name. Part of the fun of the UK tasks are the candid diary room bits about them and we don't have those any more either. Our people have such a sense of entitlement that they would not take well to earning luxuries. I think more tasks would be good. More tasks would give them something to do and keep it from being constant game play that gets repetitive and mean over time. I also think the public voting makes a big difference there. They want the tabloid stories and lads magazine deals afterwards so they don't want the public to hate them. I think some of those magazine deals pay more than the prize to popular housemates. That makes a difference how they act in the house. Our houseguests seem to look down on the public, especially the internet viewers since they know we don't choose who stays and who gos.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 9:30 am
And the fact that the US houseguests look down on the viewers pretty much assures them that they will not achieve fame and fortune once they exit the house. Jeff/Jordan are only popular because CBS constantly throws them at us, and ditto with Rachel/Brendon. On their own, without another season in BB or without being on another CBS reality show, they'd be has-beens and pretty quickly too!
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Toolhound
Member
06-22-2007
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 1:09 pm
One of my favorites in BB1 was near the end of the game and they played baseball with all the fruit and vegetables left in the house. I remember my feeds were more like flash cards than streaming video.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 2:47 pm
lol toolhound. I had dialup way back then. I remember being so excited when it jerkily would do normal movement every few mins or so. LOL slide show usually
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Rn2b
Member
08-12-2011
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 4:10 pm
Had just subscribed to cable internet. Feeds were fast but RP was awful and buffered a lot. Don't think the resolution was good either.
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Wally
Member
08-13-2011
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 4:14 pm
wait, what? the houseguests look down on us? who? why? can someone say which HGs look down on viewers and which HGs like the viewers?
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 4:30 pm
Wow. Yawl are better than elephants with such memories! Took me back to the good ole BB days. Thanks for the trip. Scbarbar... great post. I couldn't agree more. Nowadays, they all know just about what's gonna happen and when with a few exceptions on the when part but not much else. And the production help that at the very least creates (and at the worst is blatant) the illusion of the fix bein' in has just gotten past ridiculous into insane and for me, has pretty much ruined the game. When a real gamer gets their pink slip because of something out of their control, I go bananas and when a fan fav gets his/her can kicked down the road with production at the wheel, I wanna kick something repeatedly. The DRs used to be AMAZING... now, they're right out of the theatre. No wonder they're all in there so much for so long. But, the #1 change I've seen that really, really irks me the most is the loss of objectivity of the viewers- when the game takes second place to the players cause we love so and so or hate so and so. That's what has me steppin' away more than not. And the banners. Man, they were the BEST ever and gave the game yet another layer the players had to deal with in addition to playing to stay while playing to win (jury votes). Survivor IMO earns the reality seal more than BB these days.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 5:47 pm
Oh. Is BB still considered a reality TV show? I thought it was a "scripted" show! Hehehe! <g,d,r>
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:31 pm
It is totally scripted. I remember Dani in season 3, leaning into the camera in the DR calling Roddy "evil"..she got a lot of crap for that from the posters, but it was real. She was talking not repeating. Will's Drs were classic and no one could write that stuff. Now unless they have some acting skills it's like watching someone reading a teleprompter, word for word.
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Biloxibelle
Member
12-21-2001
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 6:52 pm
If I had to take a guess, I would say most the changes came about when people got on the show via their agent. I can hear the agent now... My client needs his/her protein powder.... My client needs bottled water..... My client must be able to work out every day for x amount of time.... My client has to have x amount of camera time..... Then there is always AG's need of pushing HG's have sex up close and personal for her viewing pleasure. That brought about the whole showmance angle. IMO that changed the whole dynamic of the game. I also think it changed the way some viewers watched, rooted for, picked favorites, people started to feel like they knew the HG's intimately, causing many board wars (not here, thanks to our Mods) and inter-board fighting (again not here).
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Saguaro
Member
06-21-2005
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 7:45 pm
They definitely have more comforts of home. A washing machine wasn't in the first show. The had no real clock. They only has a small fridge. While the HGs were nice, BB was meaner in the first show. Writing scripted jokes when they roasted the nominees. The HGs hated it, but I loved that.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 7:54 pm
teleprompter or cue cards... lawon and jordan especially were noted for looking down and their eyes would go back n forth LOL jeff gets that big dumb smile on his face as he would repeat back the lines just memorized (like a REAL wannabee actor) starring directly into the camera. *** can someone say which HGs look down on viewers and which HGs like the viewers? Oh my, for seasons now we have heard commments about the Freaks who watch feeds, A bunch of single ladies who own cats, talks about how Creepy it is that people would watch them wash n brush teeth etc. Only a few of the HGs know that transcribers are sometimes taking down all the dialogue etc. I have only heard rachel talk about loving her fans. Others sort of mention it as a side issue and Like Dani's Excon story, fans are sort of viewed as creepy. thats how I see it anyways. I've often thought that the HGs would be amazed at the caliber of the feed watchers. We have TONS of highly educated and Streetsmarts people on this site. I figure thats why TVCH doesnt disintegrate into the drivel that so many other reality tv sites go.
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