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Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 1:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
... and Rachel didn't become an emotional wreck until AFTER she hooked up with Brenden. While she has always been annoying, she became "damaged" after being with Brenden.

And how would Grodner know at the beginning of the season when she cast Brenden that he was an emotional abuser? The ex-girlfriend didn't come forward until at least halfway through that season.

Nanarobin
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06-25-2007

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 1:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nanarobin a private message Print Post    
I do have to mention that Brendon feeds into her vast need for adoration and confirmation. She always wants to be center of attention..and will try anything to gain it. I think he gets away with the brow-beating by following it with the lovey dovey crap-ola talk!

The never-ending scene this week in H/N room was epic during BBAD. I wished I had times it.
King Brendon went on and on..and the ordering ws endless. He yelled and yelled and then when she tried to talk, he told her to quiet down.

I was shocked that the other HG did not come into the room...if only to check situation.

I look for another pitiful HG after tonight. She may be worse than before..and she has totally lost Shelly and Jordan for psychologists to help her. Not sure she will make it.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Well, I do think AG was hoping lightening would strike twice last year "ala Jeff and Jordan." I don't think she realized how unlikeable both Brenden and Rachel were and how toxic their relationship would be.

Weezer
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08-13-2009

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 1:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Weezer a private message Print Post    
Flashback time??? I'd like to see it. Thanks

Jarreau
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03-01-2008

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 2:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jarreau a private message Print Post    
Hey Lexie - Well, IMHO, if AG did not realize how unlikeable they were, then she needs to be fired!!! There was no big love affair with them and the viewing audience last year!

WhoDats Rule!!!!!

Holly
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07-21-2001

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 2:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
CBS cast him to be her boyfriend and they owe her.

I don't understand this statement at all. CBS knew nothing about Rachel, her self-esteem, or what she liked in a man when she got picked to be on BB. Same for Brendan. To say they cast him for the role of her boyfriend is strange, to say the least.

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 2:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
And yet the producers can pat themselves on the back and tell themselves that Brendan is great casting, because America voted him back in.

Calimom3
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07-12-2007

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calimom3 a private message Print Post    
I think Rachel will do BETTER without the consoling ways of J/S... Look how well she took to Jeff's 'tough love,' she wiped her invisible tears, quit pouting & started having fun! Of course she'll retell it totally different, Brendon will never know cuz he said he's 'not watching their season...'. Guess he'll be too busy Skyperbating to men posing as female fans

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 2:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Jarreau, Brenchel was re-cast this year as the "dynamic duo that was HATED," just as Dick/Dani were the DD that was feared, and J/J were the DD that was loved. So AG knows how the viewing public feels about Brenchel - she just doesn't give a shit.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 2:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
CBS cast him to be her boyfriend and they owe her.

And another thing that is odd about that comment is obviously CBS has no idea who is going to hook up with who. Also, what if Rachel had been the first one out of the house last season? Brenden was interested in Annie until she was evicted.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 2:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
They take all kinds of written personality tests ,IQ tests and psychological tests before they are cast.

This is how production knew that Brendon was controlling.
This is how production knew That Rachel was emotionally needy and had low self esteem.

Production cares about good TV but they don't care about the emotional damage that the show causes the players.
BB allowed Will to take Janelle into the DR for 2 hours during All Stars and lie to her. He told her he loved her and was going to leave his girl friend.
Why would production not have made him say that out on the feeds?
Why were Will and Boogie allowed to toy with real life emotions in order to advance their game?
Good TV is the answer to both of those questions.

I still say Rachel has a 911 call in her future.

Louie_p
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07-07-2011

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 2:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Louie_p a private message Print Post    
If Brendan does ever get to the dissertation stage of his PhD program, do you think he will 'Shush !!!' the committee members when they question him while he is defending his dissertation?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
It's Big Brother. Some contestants do fine on the show while other contestants find it extremely stressful. It's not some kind of a Dr. Phil/Dr. Drew personal help psychology show and it never has been one. They've had people like this on every season. Remember the woman on BB1 that practically split up with her husband while on the show. How about Nicole in BB2? And so on ....

Curtisahahahaha
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07-09-2001

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curtisahahahaha a private message Print Post    
Actually, Dr Drew appeared on the Thursday night dhows in the first season of BB. He analyzed the house dynamics.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 2:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - Yes I remember those hokey segments.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 3:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Whether or not BB knew last year that Rachel and Brendon would hook up when they first came on the show, once they did connect, BB pushed it for all it was worth. And then BB, knowing full well what was going on, made a deal with them to come back this year.

This may not all be BB's fault, but if there is damage being done to Rachel because of this relationship, BB certainly had a major hand in causing it.

Jadajean
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03-23-2008

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 3:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jadajean a private message Print Post    
The only hand BB had in this was casting them. They should not be held responsible for anything else.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 3:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
i havent had a chance to rewatch the last show. Anyone catch brendan hitting Rachel on the chest when he was reprimanding her?

i was surprised and it happened so fast I thought i must have been mistaken. Asked family about it and THEY saw it too.

You know, Cali's post about how nice it was watchign them get along playing pool, bothered me. I saw Brendan Constantly complain and lecture about everything...her clothes, the way she held the cue, threats to make her stop giving Camera crotch shots, it was nonstop. And it was NOT an argument cause rach kept her mouth shut.

As Jadajean said she has absolutely nothing that binds her to Brendon.

Earlier posts were discussing that Rachel could just leave. I disagree. There is the underlaying brainwashing that she is NOTHING without him and he is her best catch. The fear of being alone and NEVER having anyone due to their Many flaws is repeated over and over.

The sister is getting married and Rachel wants to be married and start a family too. Notice Br will immediately shut her up about that and says Maybe in five years.

Guess he's not thinking about being 36 yrs old and barely starting a family. Also, for women it is not so easy as to just take Pills for an extra five years then expect to instantly get pregnant. I know quite a few who ended up paying big bucks for Invitro.

I dont find anything healthy about their relationship.

JeJo is more tolerable just becaues of Jordan's age. (imho)

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 4:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
Sunshine, my daughter works with women in a woman shelter part-time. She explained the Rachel/Brendon thing almost exactly as you have, when I asked why she doesn't just leave. He main job is in a centre for out of control kids who come from families in crisis. She said some of the kids she gets come from relationships like BR and she hopes they never have any.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 5:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Is any of this Rachel's responsibility?

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 5:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
I think yes, but my spouse has never been mentally verbally or physically abusive, so I really don't know how I would react if I was played like a yo-yo. I'd like to say I would not put up with it, but I have been told the process takes time and the conditioning she has had to allow that behavior didn't happen over night. Brendon probably isnt the first guy to own her. I don't know, I am oly guessing.

To me she is a victim and I feel sorry for her but I would like to give her a shake and say wake up, this is how it is and she would get it.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
depends Jimmer. if someone has a brain injury and is easily convinced by others to do selfharming acts (like jump from a first story window) everyone here would be horrified and Say the person who is brain injured is being 'cohersed' into acting out.

Now if we want to use a similar analogy, add possibly years of rachel being told she is trouble at home, years of being told she isnt good enough, smart enough and will never hold onto a 'real' man. Add a possible trauma of being raped at some point, beaten at home?? add a trauma of drug or alcohol dependancy at one time of their life...... NOW would rachel be able to clearly take control of the situation get herself out??

i suggest we all would agree that someone undergoing years of mental or physical abuse are Mentally compromised. their judgement is impaired.

So since we DONT KNOW rachel's background, can we rule it out?

her behaviour screams 'problem child' to me. reasons? who knows.

Is Brendan taking advantage of the situation? i emphatically say YES.

not sure if i'm clear :-(

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 5:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
I won't go into details but yeah, you are scared you will end up alone. You are scared that no one will ever love you. You are scared that you just aren't good enough. So...you stay. Why? Well you worry you can't make it on your own. Then you have kids and you worry you can't support the kids. It is soooo easy to tell someone to leave and so hard for them to do. Even when the abuse is reversed and the man is the one being abused...he stays also.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 5:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
It is really so very very sad Lainee, and I think it takes years to get a person to feel that worthless.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 5:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Yeah, unless, as Sunshyne said, you are conditioned to that type of thinking as a child...then you already feel worthless and along comes someone that claims to love you...