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Carrly
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09-28-2000

Sunday, July 17, 2011 - 6:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carrly a private message Print Post    
Just heard on the feeds from Cassie and Shelly that the first people getting evicted will be in sequester so she may get back in. This confirms my suspicion that Keith is in sequester and that is why we haven't heard much from him. Just one monitored interview with TV Guide.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Sunday, July 17, 2011 - 10:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
There is a saying, that the simplest solution is usually the truth. What is simpler, "the dog ate my homework," or that you just didn't do it? It's part of the "Occam's Razor Principle."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

Also, Renowned astrophysicist Carl Sagan once described a "BS/baloney detection kit" — a set of tools that skeptical thinkers use to investigate any new concept. A few of the key tools include a healthy distrust of information that isn't independently verified, critically assessing an idea rather than becoming irrationally attached to it simply because it's intriguing, and a preference for simple explanations over wildly speculative ones.

So, what is the simpler, less complicated solution that uses the least "unsubstantiated assumptions" out of these various "speculations" as well as the reason the ED himself gave?

(1) ED left to somehow "benefit" Dani's game, although it left the "Veteran Alliance" in a severe number shortage, and Danielle herself was VERY upset that (a) he was gone and (b) she wasn't being told if he was ok
(2) ED was thrown out due to posting his pre-sequester video (even though they allowed him to make a video addressing the HGs?)
(3) ED left to "promote" his website, even though being in the house and on tv would have provided him with more visibility to promote it?
(4) ED was on drugs although he's not in rehab
(5) ED has a friend who was in crisis who had "always been there" for ED, and now ED should be there for this friend.

Out of those 5, after applying "Occam's Razor" as well as Carl Sagan's "BS detection kit," the simplest, least convoluted, least speculative solution with the least amount of "unsubstantiated assumptions" is the answer that ED himself gave.

ALL of the other possibilities involve wild speculation based upon unsubstantiated assumptions, and (as I noted above) all have responses that "counteract" or "negate" each of the other possibilities.

The answer that ED gave is FAR less complicated and much more probable. His friend was in a crisis, ED left to "be there" for his friend. Simple. Thus far nobody has offered a valid response as to why ED leaving to help a friend in crisis cannot be true whereas each of the other "theories" above have "opposing rationales" that make each seem unlikely.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Sunday, July 17, 2011 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
simplest, least convoluted, least speculative solution with the least amount of "unsubstantiated assumptions"

1) agreed, ED looked sick and strung out while in the house.

2) ED looked clearer eyed and less dishelveled a week later after being OUT of the house.

3) Dani got Huge advantage.

those are the only observed concrete facts. If it was as simple as a sick friend, we would have seen something more on tv show/ cbs would have no reason to Hide the truth. i rule out what ED said in his release, very flimsy and wordy explaining nothing

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Sunday, July 17, 2011 - 11:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Whatever his personal reason, it's his. I doubt that he left the game to give Dani an advantage, that's just not his style. He loves BB and would not, IMO, try to cheat the viewers who are his fans. I realize manydidn't like Dick in his season, but many more did. He has a large fan base and it must have been something huge for him to leave so suddenly.

Just because he was tagged "evil Dick" doesn't mean he is really evil. Just because he did and said some things that made some cringe doesn't mean he meant any of his threats literally. I for one think that lying in the house in the context of the game does not make you a liar.

I agree Darclyte, he had a simple answer and it is plausible to me. For him to give up something he loves for someone he obviously loves is not far fetched. No one has any reason not to believe him unless they wouldn't believe him no matter what he said. It's his life and his choice how he lives it. I have issues with conspiracy theories unless there are concrete facts, and in this case the only facts we have is that he left and his explanation for leaving, and that's good enough for me.

Me_poster
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03-02-2010

Sunday, July 17, 2011 - 1:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Me_poster a private message Print Post    
i didn't watch his video, i figured it was his business and none of mine. this is how i would see the conversation going:

ME: Evel Dick, please tell me exactly why you left BB.

Evel Dick: sure i will tell you as soon as you tell me why it is any your business.

ME: okay, have a good life, i will miss you on bb.

Jenjackso
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02-10-2009

Monday, July 18, 2011 - 7:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jenjackso a private message Print Post    
Are you all missing the rumors on some big sites about why he is gone? I think when he said "take no prisoners" in his goodbye video he might have been confirming what has been said about where he is.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, July 18, 2011 - 8:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Jen, why don't you tell us what those rumors are?

Tre34
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08-17-2005

Monday, July 18, 2011 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tre34 a private message Print Post    
could not find out what the rumors are in the link above....Jen just tell us

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
1) ED looked sick and strung out while in the house.
~That is an opinion, NOT a fact.

2) ED looked clearer eyed and less disheveled a week later after being OUT of the house.
~That is also an opinion, also NOT a fact.

3) Dani got Huge advantage.
~NOT according to Danielle as well as many bloggers who feel that the Golden Key ultimately could put the recipient at a disadvantage in the "solo" aspect of the game as some HGs could see them as having "floated" into the Top 10, so again that would be an opinion and NOT a fact.

"those are the only observed concrete facts."
~Once again, those have been shown to be opinions and NOT facts.

"If it was as simple as a sick friend, we would have seen something more on tv show/ cbs would have no reason to Hide the truth."
~Have you ever heard of the HIPAA Privacy Act regarding an individual's health status? Unless ED's friend comes out and reveals him/herself and what the issue was, neither ED nor CBS can do it without violating the HIPAA act and probably a myriad of other laws. It may not even have been health related although that is the most likely.

"i rule out what ED said in his release, very flimsy and wordy explaining nothing"
~Another opinion.

~At the end of the day, even accepting ED's statement is an opinion, but again nobody has offered a valid reason as to why it CANNOT be true.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 1:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
i said the only facts we have are his appearance. no his appearance isnt a fabrication, its obvious on the show.

example... a person in a pic has a big black eye,
in a pic a week later the Shiner is almost gone. That ISNT OPINION, its a solid fact proved by the pics.

its an observable fact.

No one asked for the name of the 'sick friend'. I'm glad you heard the True and accurate well-laid out and researchable answer of why ED left in his message, but none of us did.

he was tagged "evil Dick" doesn't mean he is really evil.

he wasnt Tagged ED. he NAMED himself because of his religious mom and the fact he was pretty wild when young. At least that is what HE HIMSELF said during his season.

either way, I have no problems with any conclusions people chose to make, however, confusing facts with opinion has always been an issue.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 1:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
found this while i was looking up some screencap pics of ED to post side by side.

The nickname "Evel Dick" originated with an email address Donato once made up.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 2:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
neither ED nor CBS can do it without violating the HIPAA act and probably a myriad of other

I doubt seriously that ED or CBS are covered under the restrictions of HIPPA

A friend can go and tell whatever they want to go and tell........that does not violate HIPPA because HIPPA can not restrict outside individuals.

Missyb
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07-28-2004

Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 4:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
I heard ED in his chat room. He answers all kinds of questions about BB, his time there, other House Guests, strategy, production, etc.

He was asked if he could now go back in the house. He said no, his , reasons did not go away overnight. He needs to be where he is.

He was asked if he would go back to host an event. He said, yes, he would do anything CBS wanted him to do.

He may have archived that chat on his RTVzone.com site.

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
LMAO Well said Me_poster. Just about sums it up doesn't it? :-)

Meggieprice
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07-09-2001

Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 10:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Meggieprice a private message Print Post    
MIssyb I heard that too- and enjoyed it a lot! He will be doing those regularly after the shows- I am looking forward to watching.

Missyb
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07-28-2004

Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 10:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
Dick is chatting now www.RTVZone.com

Kebob
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09-16-2006

Friday, July 22, 2011 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kebob a private message Print Post    
This image is the intro page on my MacWorld application on the iPad. It sure looks like Dom to me.



Kebob
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09-16-2006

Friday, July 22, 2011 - 6:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kebob a private message Print Post    
Resized image

Southerngirl
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07-28-2008

Friday, July 22, 2011 - 7:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Southerngirl a private message Print Post    
Kebob, if you go to dominicphillip.com it lists MacWorld magazine as a client.

Kebob
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09-16-2006

Friday, July 22, 2011 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kebob a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Southerngirl. Glad to know I can recognize him out of context.

Missyb
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07-28-2004

Friday, July 22, 2011 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
An innocuous Cassi interview:

http://www.realitynation.com/big-brother/big-brother-interview-evicted-houseguest-cassi/

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

Friday, July 22, 2011 - 7:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jezzedout a private message Print Post    
You gotta love CBS some days. This is supposed to be Cassi's exit interview. Someone screwed this up big.

http://www.cbs.com/shows/big_brother/hoh_blog/61143/


Blah blah blah ...

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Friday, July 22, 2011 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
Well Cassi is a model.

Dawn
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07-24-2009

Friday, July 29, 2011 - 9:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dawn a private message Print Post    
i'm watching dick's "show" on rtvzone - he's doing a recap after every episode. it's kinda interesting. especially since he can give a little insight to everyone since he was in the house for a tiny bit.

also he mentioned the reason why a lot of people aren't going to vegas is because the lady that usually puts it together said that she donates proceeds from the vegas bash to charity but they all think she's lying and is just pocketing the money. so dick was encouraging that no one go.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, July 29, 2011 - 10:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Dawn that was a controversy last year. Apparently she only gives about .02 cents out of the dollar to charity.