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Spunky
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10-07-2001

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 8:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
How long will it take?? She's already half way there with her promise that JJ were never in her radar???

Dani has a big ace up her sleeve with the info to damage Rachel, by telling Jeff how Brenchel tried to convince her to put Jeff up to replace Adam. I am so sure it will be the first thing she'll tell him.

Now, I know that JJ want Rachel for the numbers, but if Daniele manages to discredit Rachel I'm not sure that Rachel will be kept in his alliance.

Anyway, the double eviction will take care more than just Kalia or Porsche, and If Jeff saves Rachel now she may still go to Jury House with the double eviction.

But this thread is more, how successful will be Daniele in convincing Jeff to keep her in his alliance and Rachel kicked out of the alliance?

Jeff should keep Rachel around for the simple fact that she will be food for the others piranha to eat...

And if Jeff really wants Kalia out, Rachel is safe just until the next eviction on Thursday.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 8:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
jeff will do what the DR tells him to. He knows who pays his check

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    
Didn`t realise Jeff and Dani were in an alliance

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 8:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Jeff really has some easy picks this week -- he can skate through this HOH without making either powerhouse (R or D) mad. The question is will he take the easy route? He can put up Porche and Kalia. If D wins POV and takes either one down, he can put up Adam. He can target floaters and keep everyone he wants safe, safe.

Jadajean
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03-23-2008

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 8:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jadajean a private message Print Post    
If he doesn't put Dani up, he has no brain cells. She automatically gets to play in veto and it will stop her from taking down Porsche or Kalia making him put up one of his own.

Stopthemadness
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07-15-2005

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 9:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stopthemadness a private message Print Post    
jeff will do what the DR tells him to. He knows who pays his check

That is funny, true but funny!

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 9:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
The only way I can see Jeff not putting up Dani is if he does not want to go against the house.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 9:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Dani automatically gets to play in the Veto comp, so Jeff can "negate" that by nominating her. But, his best bet could be to nominate Kalia and Porsche as they are her "support" and much weaker.

He knows Dani gets to play and is very good in Veto comps (she won 5 in Season 8.) If she were to win, she'd probably take down Kalia. Jeff would then have to choose between Jordan, Shelly, Adam, and Rachel, and we know who it would be because he can't stand Rachel.

Following that game plan, he can backdoor Rachel and not make extra enemies (beyond Brenchel.) Jeff could try to sell it to Rachel that if she got booted, at least she'd get to spend a week alone with Brendon in the Jury House (as they won't know about the Double Eviction next week as of yet.)

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 9:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I love that scenario Darclyte, but does Jeff have the nerve to backdoor Rachel? I'd love it if he does. And if she falls apart and cries all week, that may give him the ammo to do it. But I don't think he will.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 9:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I think he will put Dani up.. then if she wins POV she has to use it on herself and he can have her two allies up.

Dani does think he'll put up Porsche and Kalia and backdoor her but with that card, I think she'll be on the block.

Jordan immediately told Rachel she was safe and then told Shelly..

And Rachel is thrilled, not falling apart at all.

Shelly was mad because she says the second Jeff won, Rachel jumped on him.. which is ironic since usually it is Shelly who rushes to the new HOH.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 9:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
AS Jeff said on the show tonight, he wants Rachel there as a buffer and a target so I think she is safe.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 10:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I think Rachel is safe too. If Jeff were to nominate her and she went out, there would be 2 lost jury votes for Jeff and Jordan. I really think Jeff should try to keep Dani in the game, work with her, and let her get the blood on her hands when she gets Rachel out.

I hope Dani tells Jeff about Rachels idea to backdoor Jeff. And I hope Jeff believes her.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 10:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
If Jeff is smart, he will not think about who has targeted him in the past and seek revenge -- but who can help him get to the final 2. He would be smart to reconstitute the retreads -- reunite himself and Jordan with Rachel and Dani and then sweep the house clean of the rest of them, leaving an F4 of retreads.

But I know he is not that smart. He will make his decisions based on emotion, not reason.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 10:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
As the numbers dwindle, the ability to compete in challenges increases in value and improves a houseguest's chance of winning. So as much as I enjoy a scenario as described above, I think it would be in Jeff and Jordan's best interest to have Shelly and Adam in the final four with them rather than tougher competitors like Dani and Rachel.

Redpen
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07-24-2003

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 6:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Redpen a private message Print Post    
He should want an F2 with Rachel. She would only get 1 vote.

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I knew you'd be so smart, all of you!!! I liked your idea to nominate Daniele anyway (since she was going to use her veto card) and that if she won POV either Kalia or Porsche would still be there for eviction. However, couldn't she keep the veto card for the next time when she's not nominated? Either removing herself from the block or removing Kalia, Jeff will have to put a replacement and that's when Daniele will try to backdoor Rachel with the support of Shelly. What a waste because Rachel should be there for others to take out, not Jeff. Will Jeff get the point?? Mmmmm

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I don't think anyone can brainwash Jeff he is just to paranoid. But if anyone could I think it would be Dani.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Spunky it's for one week only

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Maybe they want to keep Rachel around just in case both Jeff and Jordon don't make it to f2. It won't matter much to them what R&B had in store the prior week. They'd rather have Rachel around in the finals than Dani who has an entire crew in the jury house just waiting to give her the half million dollars.

Kebob
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09-16-2006

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kebob a private message Print Post    
I've decided I want Jeff and Dani in final 2. That would be an interesting choice for the jury and keep the game exciting till the end. So I want Dani put up but win the veto and vote out either Porsche or Kalia.

Ginnylead
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08-16-2009

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ginnylead a private message Print Post    
Jeff know that Rachel and Brendon wanted him nominated. He said to several people that he was sure they were talking to Dani trying to get him put up. That wouldn't be a big revelation to him.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 2:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Lilfair, how does Dani have an entire crew in the Jury house? Keith, Cassi, Dom, and Lawon are all home watching the show...not in the Jury. Brendon is the first member of the Jury and he won't be voting for Dani unless she battles her way to the F2 and thereby earning his vote. Right now, the only people "with" Dani is Kalia and Porsche, and if both make the jury that's only 2 votes for Dani if she's in the F2.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 2:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I think it's very possible that Shelly, Adam and Brendon would vote for Dani to win since she lost her partner early on and Jeff played the entire time with Jordon. They can easily justify their vote. I think there too many variables.

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Well, I now know that Daniele did indeed brainwash Jeff. By agreeing not to use the Veto she made sure Jeff will not put her on the block if either Kalia or Porsche win Veto.

Now, tell me who benefits most out of this?? Of course is Daniele, not only she is safe but doesn't have to fight too much to win Veto and will instead throw it to either Kalia or Porsche to win it. Bad, bad deal, Jeff.

He could have nominated Daniele with the excuse that she has Veto card and could come off and he needed someone to replace Daniele and either Porsche or Kalia could have been available as replacements.

Now, Jeff has no choice but to put one of his own team on the block and probably going. Bummer.

Not only that, since there is a double eviction and Jeff cannot play for HOH he could be evicted on Thursday.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Friday, August 19, 2011 - 6:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I don't think Dani will throw the veto to anyone, that would put her in jeopardy. If she wants to play nice with her biggest competition, she wins the veto but doesn't use it.