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Kkoellem
Member
05-12-2011
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:09 am
I just don't get how this was a good game move for Shelley. She abandoned an alliance that had promised her final 3 (final 2 with Jordan if Jeff was eliminated later), for an alliance with Porsche and Kalia that most definitely will view her as an untrustworthy threat. I bet they try to cut her before Adam (and even potentially Jordan) because they think they could win against them easier than Shelley. She lost the potential votes of JJBR with her treachery. In my opinion, she would have been better served working Jeff to take Kalia down instead of Porsche...much less of a game threat...I think Shelley can beat Kalia in the physical challenges...but not Porsche. I just don't understand why it was a good move for her...not to mention the fact that if she had succeeded she would have left Dani in the game, and Dani would have targeted her as soon as Jeff and Rachel were gone! And who knows if they would get the chance to get Dani out again.
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Teenangel
Member
02-16-2008
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:11 am
True MissyB, Jordan did not float, she just was there with Jeff. Honestly, if they thought about it, she would be the one I might want to take to final two....it would cut the Vets votes down to three, thus taking that power away from them and Jordan is a past winner so they might not want to give it to her again. Just a thought...
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Jucylucy
Member
08-23-2005
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:13 am
Kkoellem, well said.
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Dawn
Member
07-24-2009
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:13 am
and jordan talked more game than adam/porsche/kalia combined. jordan was very in it this season, until she started getting frustrated a few weeks in.
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Teenangel
Member
02-16-2008
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:15 am
Oh my, I agree with all of you. So confusing....lol.
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Dawn
Member
07-24-2009
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:15 am
watching flashback of the back yard session last night. shelly said the lightbulb went off in her head when jeff put up dani that JJ were only making moves to push them ahead. well duhhhh shelly. not only is that the point of the game BUT you told them over and over and over that you wanted to push them to the end. so who's fault is that?
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:16 am
Kkoellem, I agree, it was a terrible game move for Shelly. She's not on anyone's final two list, and even if she made it to the final two, there is no possible way she can win the game. For this week, the best-case scenario for me would be for Porsche to put up Rachel and Jordan, Adam wins veto and takes Jordan off, Shelly goes up and Adam and Jordan send her out the door.
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:17 am
Lillian, agree with post of 9:47. I have thought that for a large part of the season. I did not think she had a good social game at all. I think one reason she can't bear to be around a lot of these people is because she can't converse on the same level. It may make her feel bad. But, I disagree a bit about Shelly. She started out okay but always over the top. From her very first rah rah speech to Keith, all the while knowing he was on the way out, seemed so disingenuous. Most picked up on it right awa. Dani,Porsche,even Rachel. Brendon, Jeff and Jordan ate it up. It has served her wel and gooten her far but only becasue there have been bigger more ibvious targets. For that she should be gratful. Most were on to her game pretty early on.
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Lostfan
Member
03-10-2010
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:19 am
In my definition of a floater, Jordan was most definitely not a floater. She did not follow the power from side to side. EXACTLY - and she may not have won the comps, but she didnt throw them like shelly and adam did jordan talked more game than adam/porsche/kalia combined. I agree!
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Archiecat
Member
08-16-2006
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:21 am
I am so glad that Shelly has said and confirmed and preached and lectured and promised and advised.......that she does not care at all about the money. She has virtually no hope of winning more than F3, in my opinion. So, she should be very happy at the end.
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:21 am
For those that think Jordan was riding Jeff's coattails and hiding behind him, I can argue just the opposite. Jeff listened to Jordan for her insight into the people playing the game. Jordan was the one who talked to everyone and had a feel for what was going on. She shared all of that with Jeff. Then he acted on what she told him.
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Teenangel
Member
02-16-2008
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:21 am
Shelly, so duh. If you are in a final three alliance, the whole point WOULD BE to get out the rest of the strong players which YOU were supposed to help do. If you had made it to final four with JJR, you would have had Rachel to help you get Jeff out and your competition would have been Jordan and Rachel.and might could've won against either of them with the votes..... Again, just pondering aloud...
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Ark
Member
07-10-2001
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:22 am
I agree Kkoellem. I posted earlier because I couldn't see where she was better off in her present situation than she was before. If fact, she in a worse situation now.
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:22 am
Merry, I think that's the exact reason people should be considering Shelly for F2. You almost have a guaranteed win against her. I hope someone wakes up and realizes that...
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Dawn
Member
07-24-2009
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:22 am
porsche is doing her makeup.... i really hope she's washed her hair since last night.
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Steviegirl
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:22 am
Don't count Shelly out yet. If she kept J/J around, the best she could do is 3rd place. That doesn't get the money. The other houseguests will soon realize no one will vote Shelly to get the money, so why wouldn't they take her to final 2?
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Archiecat
Member
08-16-2006
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:23 am
I don't have feeds on. Is there any activity in he house?
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:24 am
Kk actually shelly was nebulously in a final 4 or 5 deal. With Adam there and with jj requiring shelly accept Rachel as a new key member I think shelly realized it was time to go. Right now she is in a good position for f3 and without unbreakable couple in front of her. Unlike Adam she realized she had to get out from behind jj
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Dawn
Member
07-24-2009
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:24 am
i wouldn't want shelly with me in the F2 - she's a freaking salesman.... we've seen how well she can convince someone to do something they had no intention of doing. they all say they wouldn't vote for shelly but shelly isn't awesome in sales for nothing. the lady is GOOD with words.
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:24 am
Porsche is the only one awake.
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Lillian
Member
07-29-2009
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:27 am
Missyb, yes I see what you mean about Shelly. It has also occurred to me that rather being game strategy, this is just the way Shelly is. She's a mom and executive and older than all the others - like her cleaning, her instinct is to be active and take charge and advise others. It would be interesting to know if she's like this on the job and at home, because my bet is she is.
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Wahmmy
Member
07-24-2005
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:28 am
They are all so seepy, except Porshe
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Lillian
Member
07-29-2009
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:28 am
Dawn interesting insight re Shelly's sales skills. Her mistake will be playing the integrity card.
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:28 am
For a while I paid little attention or no to Porsche which if I recall correctly was the sentiment on this board. I do notice however her clothing and either it was too small in the beginning OR gurlfriend is really putting on the weight.
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Kkoellem
Member
05-12-2011
| Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:28 am
Good point on thinking no one would vote for Shelley for emotional reasons...but Shelley will argue that she was the behind the scenes manipulator that saved Rachel, etc. I think Porsche and Kalia may be afraid of her out arguing them in final two. Although if Porsche continues to step up I think she has this game won. No one hates her, and she's in a position to dominate now.
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