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Lillian
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07-29-2009

Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
Jadajean - agree, but as long as she's with Brendan, she's going to get worse, not better.

Calimom3
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07-12-2007

Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calimom3 a private message Print Post    
Odd the way she giggled as she followed him to the H/N Room, like a kid getting led to the Principal's Office, but they totally thought it was worth getting in trouble!

Jadajean
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03-23-2008

Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 6:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jadajean a private message Print Post    
Just as this is not the first woman Brendan has tried to control in a relationship, I doubt this is the first time Rachel has been in a relationship like this. Like seeks like.

Rieann
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08-26-2006

Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 6:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rieann a private message Print Post    
WOW, everyone, I was down for the count most of yesterday and just went through the screencaps this morning. I thought the tiff was one of their usual and didn't realize it had got so heated. I'm very sorry for my attempt at humour during such an ill moment.


Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 6:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
interestingly, the Joe Pesci dialogue actually adds to it. I thought it was a perfect addition to the pic.

It added some much needed humor to the pic which I found deeply disturbing. It bothered me enough to add it to screencaps a while after it happened. I'm glad that someone started a thread to chat about it.

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Grendelsmom
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07-31-2005

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 3:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grendelsmom a private message Print Post    
Brendon wants to save Rachel and turn her into Respectable Rachel.

Like many, I don't like Rachel all that much, but I do feel for her in this relationship. There are caps of her with her head in her hands when he was berating her, and I thought I feel so sorry for her for having to live with that. I have hopes that she is going to finally not be able to stand it anymore and will leave him before it gets worse. He fits the profile of an emotional/verbal abuser to a T.

As far as his being a physical abuser, I dunno. He has an anger management problem, no doubt. I don't have any problem seeing him punch through a wall or destroying property, or even menacing and scaring the hell out of her. All of that is frightening enough. I've been involved with and known many a physical abuser, though, and I just don't get the vibe from him that he's a potential wife beater. There's a certain essential meanness in that kind of guy I just don't see with him.

Not saying that she should stick around to find out, at all. The verbal abuse is just as damaging as physical abuse, if not more so.

Rieann
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08-26-2006

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 4:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rieann a private message Print Post    
I think I need go back lurkdom for the remainder of the season.Thaks TVCH Mods and Posters, Your're the best!!

Currently I pick an Adam or Dani Win.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
If she does not get away from him I see a 911 call in her future and possibly a Celebrity Rehab stint.

I really get tired of people saying that Rachel deserves what she gets because she can leave when ever she wants.
My response to those people is "Ever hear of Domestic Violence?".

Brendon browbeats her and crushes her self esteem on a daily basis. He fell in love with the victim that he recognized in her.

I bet anything that his father treats his mother the exact same way.

PS...Big Brother owes Rachel big time because they cast that jerk to be her boyfriend. They should spend the rest of her stay in the house trying to help her to have the courage to dump him.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Caprica, I totally agree with you...

Abuse victims cannot leave whenever they want. Looking from the outside in on abuse, yes, we say they can leave whenever they want...but it really does not work that way for a variety of reasons.

Jadajean
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03-23-2008

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 8:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jadajean a private message Print Post    
Hogwash, she could leave him anytime she wants, she's young, healthy, single and there are no children involved. Lord knows she isn't financially dependent on him. Plus it's been well documented that he's a nut. JMO.

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 8:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
Jadajean of course she can leave any time - but that would suppose she realizes there's a problem. She believes they are honestly in love, and wants to make it work, and believes that he has her best interests at heart. Therefore, although she can leave, she won't.

Her decision and not our business I suppose, but since they've chosen to lay their relationship out in front of us, then we have opinions, and many have grown to be concerned for Rachel, and wish she would see what's going on and dump the jerk.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
It's still her decision. As Jadajean said she has absolutely nothing that binds her to Brendon. Outsiders may think their relationship is dysfunctional or wrong but fortunately we don't get to observe most people's relationships 24/7. If we were able to see other people, I suspect that some of us would be very surprised/shocked at what we would see.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Maybe it's her decision, but we don't know what pressures BB has placed on her and Brendon to stay together and what promises were made to them if they do.

That's not to say either of them has to give into the pressure. But you get weak personalities with an obsession for pseudo-celebrity giving them a sense of purpose and being loved by the world. Add to that the manipulation by people who live in an industry built on manipulation and it may be more than Rachel can resist.

Kitkat
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08-23-2008

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 9:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitkat a private message Print Post    
It would be hard for her to leave as her situation is similar to the Stockholm Syndrome

"In the final analysis, emotionally bonding with an abuser is actually a strategy for survival for victims of abuse and intimidation. The “Stockholm Syndrome” reaction in hostage and/or abuse situations is so well recognized at this time that police hostage negotiators no longer view it as unusual."

http://counsellingresource.com/lib/therapy/self-help/stockholm/

Jadajean
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03-23-2008

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 9:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jadajean a private message Print Post    
I still say hogwash. She's not being held captive nor is this the first time either of them has been in this type of relationship. I'm not being insensitive but like seeks like. If they are happy with one another, I'm tickled pink.

Rslover
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11-19-2002

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rslover a private message Print Post    
Isn't it ironic how Brendon gives her orders on being respectful and how she must dress, but has no qualms with her servicing him with live feeds on them.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
He is a soul crusher.It's my opinion that she needs therapy to gain the strength to break the engagement.
CBS cast him to be her boyfriend and they owe her.

Millions of women stay in verbally and emotionally abusive relationships all the time. All the abuser has to do is destroy their victims self esteem.
It saddens me that some people think that abuse is OK as long as black eyes are not involved.
Rachel was probably verbally and emotionally abused a child/teenager which made her ripe for the picking when Brendon came along.

Rosem4243
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06-27-2005

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 10:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
Jadajean, yes, she is not physically being held captive, but her emotions are. She SO believes that she is in love with Brendon, that if she leaves him it would be a failure on her part.

Emotion can be very powerful force. Even more powerful than someone holding you down on a bed.

And, I'd like to see her try to leave him in the outside world. I could see him stalking her, or worse.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Rachel has mentioned on numerous occasions that her sister is getting married. If Rachel doesn't get married just like her sister, she will feel like a failure. I'm crossing my fingers that Rachel's family has some sort of "intervention" for her when she gets out of the house.

Jadajean
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03-23-2008

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jadajean a private message Print Post    
Why does CBS owe her anything? No one told her to hook up with him. They was no couple/partner twist in her season. If I remember correctly, Brendan was paying some attention to Annie and Rachel just took over throwing her self at him under the guise of their love of science.

While I don't want to see anyone mistreated, I believe Rachel treats people just as bad as Brendan treats her. I agree emotional abuse is just as bad as physical abuse if not as bad, been there. She just needs to ask herself "If I am so bad Brendan, why do you want me". But first she needs to take a look in a mirror as to how she treats people.

Calimom3
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07-12-2007

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calimom3 a private message Print Post    
Brendon was playing pool w/Rachel a few nights ago, they were having fun & he said: "see, THIS is how I want us to be, all the time, relaxing & enjoying our time together."
That's his problem: he's in love w/the IDEA of love... He want a Stepford Wife who turns into Vegas Rachel in the bedroom. That will NEVER be Rachel! They are barely hanging on to what they CALL "love" but they (he!) has no idea of what it means. They have lust, fighting, baby-talk, & make up sex down to a 'science' (pun!) but love/marriage is not just THOSE things...

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
They take all kinds of written personality tests ,IQ tests and psychological tests before they are cast.

Each person is cast for a specific purpose. We should all know that Rachel's fantasy man was a good looking Science guy(not that common in the reality TV casting world).
We also know that Grodner loves a showmance and she tries to cast one every year(not always with success).

Brendon was cast to be Rachel's boyfriend.

It's plain as day that Grodner wanted her showmance and she even bragged about them last year during interviews.

Grodner also knows what an emotional wreck Rachel is so if they set her up with an emotional abuser it's their fault.
Grodner should set Rachel up with a good psychologist to help her before she commits to a life of mental abuse.

Jadajean
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03-23-2008

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 1:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jadajean a private message Print Post    
Don't agree Caprica, not buying it - they owe her nothing IMHO .

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 1:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Jada is right - when Brenden was on the show last year he was initially interested in Annie. It wasn't until Annie was evicted after the first week that Brenden even knew Rachel was in the house.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 1:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Annie is surely counting her blessings right about now. ;)