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Oregonguy
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02-12-2006

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 2:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oregonguy a private message Print Post    
I can honestly say i dont know who deserves to win at this point.

Jordan- most everyone seems to like her. has won 1 HOH (we will never know if she really would have won it). so far she has done bad in comps for the most part and probably as a gamer will be seen as the weakest of the veterans and has already won once which could be counted against her.

rachel- started off strong on comps but until the last pov had cooled off. is definitely not liked by some/most. she does seem to have behaved better since bredon left.

adam- won 1 pov (we will never know if he would have really won it) otherwise has totally stunk at comps. will be seen as the biggest floater and scared to get his hands dirty. is genuinely well liked.

porsche- up until thursday it would be hard pressed to know she was in the game. made a huge mistake in opening pandoras box. likable factor 50% to voters

kalia- won 2 hoh BUT her first hoh was one of the worst hoh's in BB HISTORY. i think people like her well enough

theres 2 weeks left i hope someone really steps up and EARNS their bb victory cuz right now i'm not too impressed.

oops forgot shelly- i just assume she will be gone thursday plus i couldnt see her winning at all. i think all/most of the voters would find her game too shady

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Right now if I had to vote it would be hands down Porsche who has played the best game so far and won alot even though she had less comp's available for her to compete in. Kalia second, then Rachel third, Jordan then Adam.

Shelly actually would be first or second if she stays simply for her social game and moves inspite of never having official power she caused the Lawon eviction which should get her some sort of notice, it was brilliant and has made Kalia's HOH null and void.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
I can't decide yet, because the game isn't over, and a lot can happen, both in games and comps.

If it ended today, I would rank my votes this way.

Rachel
Kalia
Jordan
Porsche
Adam
Shelly

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 2:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
i never think in terms of Deserve, so backing out slowly.... ------>

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 2:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Deserves is tough. Personally, I think if you win, you deserved it. Somehow you managed to be the last one standing. :-)

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 2:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
okay you two get back in here lol

Pick another word besides deserve lol that fits yanno what he meant!! Both of ya:-) I want to know what you think lol

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 2:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
Too soon for me

M4nd33
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07-12-2011

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 2:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send M4nd33 a private message Print Post    
I'd be happiest with Porsche and Rachel in F2.


Porsche is one smart cookie. She laid low, got to know everyone in the house. Sure, she napped a lot, but she was bored. She may not have won a lot until recently, but she's won when it mattered. You can't really fault her for opening Pandora's Box. That is the nature of the PB, to entice the person into opening it. Of course it could be good, bad, or both. It was a risk and she took it. She's made the rounds and hasn't ticked anyone off too badly.

Rachel has played a hard game. There were multiple times she really should have been out of the house. Her personality isn't always fantastic, but I think Brendon truly brings out the worst in her. Since his most recent eviction I've grown to like her more and more. Trust me, it's a difficult thing to admit, but I'd love to see her make it to F2. I just hope that if she gets that far she runs far away from Brendon.

Kalia made one of the goofiest moves in BB history, by putting up one of her own! She also comes off as a know-it-all, and like she thinks she is better than everyone else. Sure, she's won two HOH's, but she seems to think she's a BB Goddess and that everyone should conspire with her. She grates the houseguest's nerves, and really, her first HOH was laughable at best.

Jordan is sweet, but she's complained all season about "floaters" and "people who don't do anything." She's talked a lot of game, but she's always been behind Jordan, Brendan and Rachel. She's only had one HOH, and we're not positive if that would have ended that way had Brendon and Jeff not thrown it.

Shelly will likely not make it past this week. She's down lousy in competitions, and her lies have skyrocketed. She also lies about completely unnecessary things, and then tries to say she's loyal and honest and motherly. I'm fine with lying in the game, as long as it is game related. She's taken a lot of things way too far. Up until recently I really liked her game play. I even liked when she tried to flip so Dani would stay. But then the lies just compounded and it's turning into a three ring circus!

Adam seems well liked, but he has also not won anything. He's bounced back and forth between noobs and vets, although he's always seemed more loyal toward JeJo. He hasn't won anything, yet claims he's a BB Jedi. If the jury votes on personality he has a chance. If they vote on game, he hasn't got a prayer.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
LOL, Shenanagon! Who would I like to win? I'd actually be happy with anyone but Shelly. Only because she is doing herself and her family damage by staying. She really seems to have lost touch with reality, and I hate to see that being displayed on tv and the internet.

Will that suffice? :-)

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 2:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
She's talked a lot of game, but she's always been behind Jordan, Brendan and Rachel.

yes Jordan has Floated / rode coattails behind jeff brendan and rachel

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adam - no game sense/ nodding and smiling shouldnt win him the game

Jord - seems afraid NOT to win cause jeff was supposed to and is expecting half the Money so NO i dont want her to win / not deserving and even if she Bumbled into ONE win, i expect it to be like BB11

K - does a lot of talking/ so much talking that she is liable to fumble onto something just as a fluke. Is extremely obvious with her running to tattle to people in the house.

R - self inflated ego and poor sport. I get tired of the Higher then a Kite attitude when winning and a Cry me a River attitude when losing. Very Poor Sportsmanship should not be rewarded with a win.

Shelley, played hard since day one of feeds.

P played hard since BEFORE feeds started then went into hibernation after getting Golden key. Being playing HARD making great decisions since being freed from the GK twist.

At this point, I think Sh/ P have played the game hard.

now that R J have both been saved by AG, It lessens the chance SH P will be near f2

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
yes thanks to you both lol

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"I'd actually be happy with anyone but Shelly. Only because she is doing herself and her family damage by staying."

I wouldn't say that Shelly is doing damage to her family by staying...it's those crazy, over-the-top psycho fans that are doing the damage to her family.

You can't blame the victim for what those wackos are doing to Shelly's family.

I think anyone that makes it to the f2 "deserves" to win. Aside from competitions, it takes a good social game and a good sense of timing to know when to make your big movie. "Floaters" deserve to win as much as anyone else if they make it to the final 2 because while they may have "floated" to the end, they still made it to the end and the big-move players just bulldozed themselves right out of the house.

M4nd33
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07-12-2011

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 3:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send M4nd33 a private message Print Post    
***My post above, at 2:40pm should say Jordan hid behind JEFF, Brendan and Rachel. =)

Confussed1955
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02-29-2008

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Confussed1955 a private message Print Post    
jorden is doing the very same thing she did in bb 11,which is nothin!!! but riding on everybody else
and playing the dumb blonde lmao very well i have to add she has that role down pat!!

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I think Shelly is doing herself damage when she talks about cutting off the paw of a stuffed dog and putting ketchup on it. Maybe that's just me, but it seems a little whacko talk brings out the whackos. :-)

Oregonguy
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02-12-2006

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 3:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oregonguy a private message Print Post    
jordan would be the person i like the most in the game thats left but it would be between her and adam who i feel would least get my vote at this point.

adam is obviously not winnning any comps due to ineptness/throwing and if thats his game then fine, but to me then he needs to step up on the social game play. i dont see him starting game type discussions he usually is the ine who is approached and i believe most just view him as a vote.

kalia, how can i reward someone (at this point) who made such a horrible game move (the hoh/lawon)

porsche to me needs to go on a run at the end for comps cuz i dont know if she made the social connections with B/J/J she tried with rachel but that appears over and except for this last few days was she really close at all with shelly?

rachel can get votes from B/j/J for her game play but with her attitude can she get that 1 vote to get her a W?

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 4:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
I don't see how a little whacko joke (that's in bad taste, granted) can be blamed for crazies that go online and say Shelly's young daughter should be "killed and raped but not necessarily in the order".

That's still blaming the victim for the threats of over-the-top violence made by whackos outside the house that Shelly isn't even aware of. Shelly and her family members are the victims of that threatened violence, no one else.

Teacuppy
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06-10-2011

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teacuppy a private message Print Post    
Okay start by saying I do not want porcsa or kalia! I am mad at shelly. Enough said on that.

I think j/ r should tell p/ k they are keeping shelly, but then vote to keep Adam! This way p / k will work hard to manipulate shelly and leave Adam alone.
Adam is. The most dependable based on track record IMO

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I agree SF, now if she said she wanted to cut off Rachel"s hands I would agree with the "wacko" but a stuffed dog? Dick won and he was so aggressive and no one threatened his son. Her only sin in this game of lies and manipulation was that she didn't fall on her sword for America's Sweethearts. Even though she said she would she had the right to change her mind. People promise a lot of stuff in this game (Jeff to Dani)(Jeff to Shelly final 4 while telling Jordan it will be them and Rachel in final 3) and they don't keep them. The mob mentality that J/J are some kind of untouchable players is what's crazy. She played her game. She stayed loyal to them and they did not stay loyal to her. She flipped on them and somehow she now doesn't deserve to win. I hope it's Shelly and Porche in the end. I haven't liked or disliked Porche for most of the game, but she has grown on me. I would have preferred Dani and Shelly, but that's not possible. I guess whoever wins deserves it, but no one actually deserves anything.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 5:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
"Who deserves to win"
Rachael - No, she isn't & hasn't been one of my fav's the whole season. Brendon allowed her to show her negative personality traits....he actually pushed her into showing these traits. She still survived the BB knife. She won challenges, alligned herself with folks who also could/did win challenges, & won that last veto for her & Jordan. I am warming up to her since Brendon left & think we're starting to see her real game. Heck, she's even been good at keeping her mough shut when she should.

Maineiac
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08-24-2009

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 5:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maineiac a private message Print Post    
Right up until this past Thursday, Porche was playing the dumb blonde, riding everyone's coattail. So, it's safe to say her and Jordan are playing the same game...right?


The only difference is Jordan has a social game. She actually talked with the other HGs.

Kerry827
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07-31-2007

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 5:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kerry827 a private message Print Post    
Porsche has been disgusting. That's the difference btwn her & jordan....

Porsche....
Tainted the muscle milk
Stole & hid stuff
wanted to wrip a page from the bible
openly mocked the bible w/ her pretend bedtime stories

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Cricket
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08-05-2002

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 5:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
The only person who 'deserves' to win is Rachel...to a point. She shouldn't even be back in the game. It should have been all new strangers; however Rachel has worked hard to stay in the house.

The second person I'd like to see in F2 would be Porsche, unless she, like Dani, lets Kalia's wild and wrong observations ruin her game.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 5:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
Porshe/Jordan.......NOTHING alike!
I like Jordan

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Monday, August 29, 2011 - 5:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
Jeff "expects" half the prize money if Jordan wins? I didn't know this.

I say whoever is in final 2, no matter how they got there "deserves" the win. It's a game, and the object is to GET TO THE END. Period. They all made choices, some good and some bad.
If I was going by just who I liked? Well it would be Jordan or Rachel at this point. Jordan just because I like her, and Rachel because she honestly does try but the girl has some issues.