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Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
The fact that some can handle it and some can not does not make Jeff a bully.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
It's funny hearing Jeff being called a "bully" because it reminds me of his first BB season when the whole house laughed at him because of the way he pronounced "bull". It sounded just like "bowl" He said it over and over but couldn't hear what the other HGs heard....and it really did sound like he was saying "bowl".

Jeff isn't a bully, he's a "bowly".

Lajonesin
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03-22-2008

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lajonesin a private message Print Post    
I would argue that a bully intimidates for the sheer pleasure of being able to dominate and gain control of other's emotions using fear. In this game, it works and is fair play. There is an end result in the mix. Anyone can do it, male or female and anyone can defend themselves. Real life bullying is another animal altogether. The inability to defend oneself is tantamount to it's actual existence. The end result is simply to hurt another person. There's no money to be gained or a prize to win. They just are not equal.

Saguaro
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06-21-2005

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saguaro a private message Print Post    
Mama and would you say that if you're talking about a 5 year old kid. One kid is fine, the other kid comes home crying from the same words from another kids. Most would say if someone is making another cry, they were bullying them.

Maris
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03-27-2002

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
They arent bullies. I would consider someone like Roddy a bully, he didnt use physical intimidation but he went after Amy and used emotional intimidation.

Wendy
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07-16-2009

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wendy a private message Print Post    
Personally I think the words rigged and bully are overused.

In other news the ratings jumped a 14% last night with a 8.64 in over alls and 3.2/9 in key demos

Rosem4243
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06-27-2005

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
Hahaha! I remember that, Sanfran...

Funny!

Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
Oh wow Saguaro, we are talking about adults.

I will not get into that convo. I have been an educator for 37 years and have seen bullying.
Jeff and Brendon are playing a game.

I am done talking about it. You all will think what you want, I will think what I want.

Txhazeleyes
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02-12-2008

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Txhazeleyes a private message Print Post    
Bullying isn't exclusive to physical harm. You ever heard of cyber-bullying? In some instances, the victim has never met the bully. Emotional harm is included. But, in this game, saying they're gunning for you, doesn't mean anything other than putting you up for eviction and is normal. If you can't take being told that, they don't need to be in this game. In my mind, I think you should expect to give and receive these so called threats.

Jadajean
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03-23-2008

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jadajean a private message Print Post    
I don't think Rachel and Kalia can handle anything being thrown at them as evidenced so far. I think Jordan is more equipped- the way she walked out on Kalia and let's not forget her attack on Russell last year and her basically telling Rachel - yes you are a b.--ch.

Rosem4243
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06-27-2005

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
Laj - well said, and I totally agree with that.

This is a GAME, and sometimes you have to intimidate people to get what you want or to make a move in the GAME.

I'm sure Jeff and Brendon don't go around yelling at people in their normal, everyday lives! LOL!

Lajonesin
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03-22-2008

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lajonesin a private message Print Post    
I agree Mama. As an educator myself, I have seen bullying and this is just not the same. Maybe it is game-bullying by strict definition but not to be confused with the serious and real life bullying with no intentions of winning anything but someone's fear.

Saguaro
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06-21-2005

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saguaro a private message Print Post    
So when Rachel cried because she didn't like what was said to her she wasn't being bullied, but if she were a child, she would have been bullied? I didn't know the definition changed with age.

Debylil
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07-16-2008

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Debylil a private message Print Post    
Just listening to Kalia - if we think that Brenchal are annoying, they think it's even more so.

Lajonesin
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03-22-2008

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lajonesin a private message Print Post    
On another topic, what is up with Shelly? She is rather testy today.

Txhazeleyes
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02-12-2008

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Txhazeleyes a private message Print Post    
Rachel cries at the drop of a hat and even lied to her own boyfriend when he re-entered the house and claiming people were mean to her when they absolutely were not. Children are not allowed to play this game, even though some of them have the mentality of a child.

Maris
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03-27-2002

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
OMG if the cause of Rachel crying was bullying, she has pretty much been bullied by everyone in the house including the fish.

Lajonesin
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03-22-2008

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lajonesin a private message Print Post    
This picture just makes me LOL for some reason.



Saguaro
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06-21-2005

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saguaro a private message Print Post    
Using Rachel, probably not a good example.

Lajonesin
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03-22-2008

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lajonesin a private message Print Post    
I missed the beginning of that convo with Porsche and Kalia.....who is she talking about here?

Calimom3
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07-12-2007

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calimom3 a private message Print Post    
Rose/Lost:
Unless I asked someone's opinion, I don't care to hear what they have to say, especially the negative venting from K/D/S... No good would come from it, what's the point?
Actually, I think the WORST stuff said face-to-face happens befween Brenchel... I hope none of my 3 kids ever have a "love" like theirs! After B's lectures, I NEVER see R walking away feeling uplifted & confident, it's more like he's telling her HE knows better so she should follow his advice... YUK!
P.S. Bullying isn't always a threat of physical harm-- one can use other leverages: property/grades/secrets/jobs/sex/etc against someone to get what they want.

Rosem4243
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06-27-2005

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
Also, Rachel cries without any tears, so really she is emotionally blackmailing people.

Hey - would that be considered 'bullying'???



Cricket
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08-05-2002

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I would argue that a bully intimidates for the sheer pleasure of being able to dominate and gain control of other's emotions using fear

Lajonesin, that is exactly what Jeff does.

Debylil
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07-16-2008

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Debylil a private message Print Post    
Laj - they started talking about Brenchal how sicking it is to watch - and now they are talking about Shelly. Trying to remember what happened with the Porshe knows Janelle thing. shes hard to follow - like like like..

Oliviamimi
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05-30-2009

Friday, August 12, 2011 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oliviamimi a private message Print Post    
I didn't say Jeff was a bully. I defended Jeff when he told Kalia what he was going to do if she nominated him. What I said was I hope that if Dani put Brendon and Jeff up that I hope they didn't bully her. When I said bully I meant I hope they didn't namecall yell and intimidate. Those are my hopes. That makes me uncomfortable when it is done. I know it is part of the game. I DO know the difference between bullying and game play.