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Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 5:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Floater all-stars = just more returning Vets

Yesitsme
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08-24-2004

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I think floating is a great art. I love to hate watching them float! I prefer the gutsy out-there people who are open about their strategy (and you can see them work it as they win), but floating is a definite viable strategy.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
Floaters are people who do not have an alliance and who are just playing both sides in a war.

If you are with one side or in an alliance but don't run around screaming at everyone, that does not mean you are a floater.

You are also not a floater just because you have not won one of the handful of comps so far.

Currently in the house the only person that MIGHT be a floater is Porsche, and that is only because her long standing alliance with Rachel has suffered this week. Before this week she was not a floater.

Rachel and Jeff mistakenly label anyone a floater who they are not targetting and who is not publicly outspoken on their side, they are wrong.

Kalia was a floater the first few weeks. She has not been a floater the last few weeks. Shelly and Adam have both been working with Jeff and Jordon and they are also secretly aligned with each other. They are not floating.

Lawon is in no way shape or form a floater. People want to call him a floater because they accuse him of doing nothing. Lawon was in an alliance from the beginning. He was the last standing member of the ill-fated Regulators Alliance. When that faded away, he was in an alliance with Dominic (the second to last remaining regulator), Kalia, and Danielle. Calling Lawon a floater because he has not won a comp is a completely incorrect usage.

Lawon has ALWAYS voted and played with his alliance. So have all these other people.

Really the only true floater in the game so far has been Kalia. When she was with the newbies but voted with the vets, that is the move of a floater. Being in an alliance and voting with your alliance does not a floater make. Shelly did the same thing, but she was never with the newbies, she has actually been with Jeff and Jordan. She is not a floater.

The term "Floater" is way over used when it comes to Big Brother. The biggest culprits are the players themselves. Like I mentioned earlier Jeff and Rachel are two of the biggest offenders when it comes to mis-labeling people as floaters.

There are no floaters right now, with the exception of possibly Porsche.

Lawon - Not a floater
Kalia - Not a floater
Danielle - Not a floater
Jordan - Not a floater
Rachel - Not a floater
Jeff - Not a floater
Adam - Not a floater
Shelly - Not a floater
Porsche - ???

The only reason you could even put Porsche into the questionable category was her picking of Jeff and Shelly to compete in the knockout HOH. However in her Diary Room she admitted it was an accident, so that actually pulls her off floater status. Her actual actions and participation have always been in line with her alliance with Rachel and with that Brendon. Last week she voted for Brendon to stay.

At this point and time there are NO FLOATERS in the Big Brother house, so anyone using that label is mis-using it.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Please explain to me why Lawon is not a floater. Did you hear Porsche try to talk game to him the other night? I'm not sure that half the time he even knows what is going on.

The "alliance" he was in with Kalia was a joke, she was pushing for she and him to be nom'd so she could get the golden key.

Buba1113
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07-20-2009

Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 6:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buba1113 a private message Print Post    
To me a floater is someone who goes into the HoH room and says "Who do you want me to vote for?" "Just tell me what to do and I'll do it." The only one I've heard do that is Lawon but I could very well be wrong.

Toolhound
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06-22-2007

Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 6:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toolhound a private message Print Post    
Dani was never a floater she won 5 POVs and 2 HOHs and was on her Dads team like it or not.
I think Shelly is one of the biggest floaters ever to play the game. She is doing a great job so far but that is a dangerous game. Lawon is just not playing the game and I think that is also a way of playing. He is just a vote that never wins anything and will get used as a pawn. If he makes it down to final 4 and wins a few things he could walk away with $50,000.00 or maybe get as lucky as Jordan (the ultimate non player) and win the half million.

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 6:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
If you wanted to look at it another way, Dani is the ultimate floater. She "adopts" a protege' and uses him/her until detected or successful and then moves on to another. protege'=puppet

Her protege's to date: Dom, Rachel, Kalia....have I left anyone out

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 6:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
Another Dani protege' was Jordan in her HOH. She nominated Cassi because both Dani and Rachel/Porsche were jealous of her.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 6:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
Archie that is a good point but Rachel was really the impetus to get Cassi out. Without Rachel going full press on Cassi it is unlikely she would have went out when she did.

Fanof8
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08-04-2007

Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 7:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fanof8 a private message Print Post    
lol No floaters???

I agree Keldogg. Lawon joining various "Alliances" only proves he's not aligned. Plus, with the GK twist, teams were pretty much forced together and in no way alliances because if nominated, they went up together against the other and one was going.

Adam (and Shelly) hasn't shown that they are an alliance from what I've seen on CBS. Maybe you could say a "soft alliance" meaning if by chance they both survive down to say final 4, then they would probably cement that, but as of now? No way. Both are playing for themselves and will join anyone who would guarantee their safety.

We've seen Adam admit as much when on the block. He just had the luck of being partnered with a revoltist (Dom) who was without numbers.

In no small part you could say that Dom was done in, due to all the newbie floaters!

Had that original 8 newbies been able to keep their word to each other, the vets would've been toast, especially with ED hurting their odds more. But they broke off their agreement for an alliance for the most part, during and after the first eviction (Shelly and Kalia definitely) and thus, floaters were born.

But that right there could label them floaters.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Seems to me we have two definitions of floaters going on here -- and hence disagreement where perhaps none really exists.

One definition is that a floater is one who allows others to do the dirty work while they ride on their coat tails.

The other definition seems to be one who move back and forth among various groups and individuals depending on which one they feel best helps them at any given time.

I suspect if we could agree on certain definitions, as someone said earlier today, we might find a lot more agreement in this discussion than disagreement.

Fanof8
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08-04-2007

Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fanof8 a private message Print Post    
Yes, What, I agree that floaters is more of a generic term that came about and began being used by HGs. It needs to stay generic, I think, because of the game. The players don't really know, at any given time, your second definition, because they are in the middle of the game and may not know there's a person floating or spreading info or rumors or going with numbers, etc., whatever serves their purpose.

Sanfranjoshfan
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Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 9:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
A "floater" is a term used to describe a dead body found floating in a body of water.

Unfortunately, there are no floaters in the BB house.



Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

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It's sorta like Justice Stewart's definition of pornography:

"I know it when I see it."

Jag2000
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07-01-2009

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I think there are a few dead people floating in the waters ot the BB house. Lawon has done nothing...Adam has done nothing...Porsche has done nothing. The first three weeks they just floated and had to do nothing. Now that they can compete, they are still floating.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 11:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
By that definition Jeff was s floater until he won the mist recent veto.

Fanof8
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08-04-2007

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 6:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fanof8 a private message Print Post    
GM All, (an edited repost)

The "current discussion" board was the funniest I've seen it since I've been coming here - and I didn't even post! haha. Last night (Sunday about 7pm starting with Dawn's mentioning of Shelly speaking with Kalia).

I picked up reading that board at about the 7pm Sunday stuff, but still was watching the Sunday's show so had to come back once that was over. But I was rolling reading everyone's reactions as it was happening, where apparently Kalia, (who had such a bold NOM ceremony) began a conversation with Shelly...well, hilarity ensued here with people realizing Kalia had a new plan lol...worth reading if you weren't here.

Dint
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05-14-2011

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 7:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dint a private message Print Post    
I agree that the definition of floater seems to be different for different people in the BB house.

For example, Rachel's strategy is hypocritical. She starts by saying that she wants to compete and get rid of floaters who coast by, yet when someone like Dani uses strategy to try and eliminate her, Rachel will target Dani because she believes Dani personally attacked her.

Rachel will always try and brainwash a newbie into targeting anyone else by making it seem that someone who competes is more worthy of winning than a floater who doesn't play the game.

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 7:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
From this list I think it's missing the term "REPORTER" and someone is out to get rid of reporters, not floaters. That someone is Shelly who discovered Porsche is reporting everything said to the highest powers in the house and plotted with Kalia to get rid of her.

But we know Porsche has deals with Daniele....

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 7:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Floating is subjective. If you really like the person who is floating we hear "they have a great social game" or "sure they are good at comps, but they have no social game". Part of the game is using others and letting others use you. Sometimes it works in your favor and sometimes it doesn't. Laying low and not bringing attention to yourself while the loud mouths canabalize each other is also a tactic. No one really floats in this game, they just play it differently than you would.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
I often think of a floater as someone who is just under the radar, their name rarely gets brought up for noms, then all of a sudden they are at the end of the game! Same with Survivor.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

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Panda, ITA, that's how I think of them too. They're the opposite of sh*t-disturbers who put targets on their backs.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

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Bingo, Dint !!!!

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Floater: Someone that floats between alliances never truly picking a side just going with the power.

Lawon is useless to either side except as a vote.
He has voted with newbs all along. Not a Floater.

Porsche has switched sides so many times I've lost count. Since she has yet to win an HOH and nominate anyone I would have say Porsche is a Floater.

Adam has good relationships with both sides and neither side wants him gone. Adam a Floater.

Shelly has mad skills and has manipulated every single person in the house. She has her vet alliance and F3 with J/J and D/K so she might be a floater but she really only intends to honor her deal with J/J so Shelly not a Floater.

Kalia was the ultimate floater during the 1st two weeks but picked a side and stopped being a floater when she won HOH and put Rachel and Jeff on the block. However she has recently tried to regain her floater status by trying to keep Rachel and make a deal with J/J to keep her and Dani safe. Kalia Giant Floater.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Monday, August 08, 2011 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Well, if the brain trust here at TVCH can't agree on a definition of what a floater is, how can we expect the mental midgets in the BB House to do so?

Mysti
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09-28-2005

Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 3:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mysti a private message Print Post    
I'm laughing about Jordan crying in 'fustration' the other night about Jeff being nominated and not the floaters. 'all those people who just follow what some one else tells them to do' And then she gets so mad at Shelly because she thinks Shelly is no longer following J/J's lead.

After all, Shelly said to Jeff, "I am here to make sure the two of you make it to the end"

Wow - that's awful generous Shelly!
Guess a floater that floats in your wake is ok, but some one else's floater is not?

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 4:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Is floater a 4 letter word? It's not in my book. People have won BB & Survivor being called a floater.

In my mind a floater is someone who doesn't make waves, doesn't offend or annoy, is likable, and doesn't appear strong or very bright.....that is a floater to me. And they do win. I don't consider it bad play or a 4 letter word.

Kerry827
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07-31-2007

Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 5:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kerry827 a private message Print Post    
Porsche is the floater here. She literally goes to whatever group is in power. The only problem is that the rest of the definition doesn't fit her because she is useless. She literally does nothing besides sleep and make herself food. I wonder if she knows she is in a game and NOT in an all inclusive resort somewhere!?!

Kappy
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06-28-2002

Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 5:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
Who's Porsche?