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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:44 am
I've just been reading through the last several hours of posts and had to make a comment on something that was discussed several pages back. Cassi said that she's not going to visit Shelly because Shelly didn't tell her about voting Keith out. Um, did Cassi ever tell Shelly that she was in an alliance that did not include Shelly? Isn't that just as bad (or even worse) than throwing a vote to someone else (who was still in the newbie alliance).
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Rieann
Member
08-26-2006
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:44 am
I just got home a while ago and have been trying to catch up on what has happened in the past six or seven hours and its giving me a migraine! It reminds me of that Friends episode where Monica and Chandler were trying to be secretive and Phoebe was like, "they don't know that we know that they know". It was one big friggin circle!
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:44 am
Keld yep. She forgot they are all adults in there,,,,they DO NOT NEED ANOTHER 'MOM'!!! And what she said to Porsche today was disgusting in 'what would your father think'. TOTALLY OUT OF LINE!
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:45 am
I don't know em. Shelly lies a lot. Hard to be real when you are pretending and lying to people.
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Jadedone
Member
09-01-2007
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:45 am
keldogg, I agree that JJ and BR owe each other "loyalty" and "trust". BR got themselves into this situation by trying to save Jeff from Dani in the first place. JJ didn't return the favor. Jordan offering to go up on the block was only to save Jeff and it ensured that one of the 2 people who just fought to save JJ would go home. That's not an alliance. JJ have proved that their only alliance is to themselves. That's fine if you're not counting on them to protect you. They should have fought to get Dani to put someone else up and I was so disappointed when they didn't. They totally screwed their alliance by giving Dani the easy way out. She was so concerned about making another enemy. JJ made it so easy for Dani and ensured a B/R eviction instead of trying to convince her to put someone else up. That's the kind of "trust" and "loyalty" that was completely unnecessary. JJ should have stood up for their alliance members, instead they threw B/R under the bus. B/R proved "trust" and "loyalty" first. JJ snubbed their noses at it. B/R said it right when they told Dani that Jeff will do anything to win. Surprisingly enough, BR have been 2 of the most honest people in the house.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:46 am
Merry...it's no different...and Cassi's reaction is normal, considering it's as if she was just voted out yesterday, since she's now seeing this for the first time...I would be surprised if by the end of the season if she still felt that way.
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Txhazeleyes
Member
02-12-2008
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:46 am
Before I got the feeds today, I didn't understand at all why there was animosity toward Shelly. Now I can understand it completely. I mean, c'mon how many people have to tell you how smart, selfless, caring, giving and nurturing they are? Those things are obvious and when somebody continually tells me that, I'm sure they're only trying to convince themselves. She's here to get to final 3 to get other people further in the game? Yeahhhhh sureeee!
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:46 am
Shelly has made it clear from the beginning that she does not think it is appropriate for women to be on tv showing their coos. She tried to tell them that it gives people the wrong impression of them. Rachel is the one who was complaining that people made comments on how much she showed last season, and Shelly was trying to tell her why people felt that way. I would do the same thing. Even my 3 year old granddaughter knows what behaving like a "lady" means. I realize this is the 21st century, but most of us over 50 feel there is no reason an educated, nice looking women needs to show everyone her girly parts. IT'S TACKY!! She has also made it perfectly clear that she loved Jeff and Jordan because they didn't embarrass their family by having sex in the house, unlike Rachel. It does not surprise me that her parents wouldn't sign releases.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:50 am
Txhazel, you are the lucky one!!! We've had to listen to it 24/7 for weeks now. She sowed what she reaped, without question.
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Muffin
Member
08-29-2007
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:50 am
Rieann, better get yourself a notebook while reading all the posts. Took me forever and was completely confused by the end.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:50 am
B & R are the 2 most honest people in the house? scuse me, while i pick myself up off the floor, LMAO! Wow, Jordan went on the block to save Jeff! What is the diff between that and Brendon using veto to save Rachel? none. B & R have no loyalty, no trust, no conviction..it's only about them. Which is fine, no problem, that's they way they choose to play the game. But it does make me laugh, when their buzzwords are a bunch of baloney!
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:51 am
Come on em it is not her place. You can't claim others are mean for doing something and give shelly a pass when she does the same thing. Telling people you dont know they are embarassing themselves and their families is rude and inappropriate.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:52 am
Well Earth, we didn't hear her giving that advice to Rachel. Oh I forgot, she did, but behind Rachels back!
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:53 am
JJ have proven that they will throw away RB to save Shelly and Adam. OTOH, RB only threw away JJ to save themselves, and, really, JJ is only in danger if Adam, Shelly, or Dani win the POV. Even then, because both of them won't be on the block, there's a chance they can both be saved. RB aren't targeting JJ because they want them out, it was the only possible play available to them at the time and they wisely took it.
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Rieann
Member
08-26-2006
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:54 am
Thanks Muffin. I think I'll end up with carpal tunnel by the time I'm finished!
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:56 am
That's cool, throw J & J under the bus. But if you continue to use the words "trust" and "loyalty", then expect people to criticize you for it. They would not recognize either of those attributes if they tripped over them.
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:56 am
Other people could have gone on the block. Jordan volunteered to both protect Jeff AND make sure Brendon got evicted. Jeff and Jordan 100% wanted Brendon gone and if someone else had gone up they both would have voted Brendon out. It is convient for them to act all innocent but they got lucky. They were not forced to get Brandon out, they wanted him gone.
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Muffin
Member
08-29-2007
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:57 am
Does everyone here live on the west coast. Am I the only one still up at 4am reading about BB?
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:58 am
west coast here, Muffin!
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:58 am
I do think it will be interesting to see Shelly if she wins POV and finds out Jeff is going up in her place. She's said it over and over that she just wants them to win. Will she throw herself on her sword for them, protect them with her BB life? You know, because she's so "selfless" and "caring"...
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 12:59 am
How is that inappropriate if that's what you believe. Rachel was the one whining that she didn't understand why people thought such bad things about her...wise up girl!! Nothing has changed since the beginning of time; you are judged by your actions and the company you keep, like it or not. I think Shelly thought she was helping her. Do you have children? Would you be proud if your daughter behaved and dressed that way? If you were having a one on one conversation with someone and they made that comment, would you not tell them why someone might get that impression? I would. Don't care who thinks it's appropriate or not, I tell girls this every day of the week. That's the reason so many girls find themselves in dangerous situations. Would it have been better for Shelly to say "gee I don't know why people would think that", then she'd be acused of lying to poor Rachel when she should have given her sage advice. You don't get to have it both ways. This is just Shelly's way, she tries to help, sometimes too much, and sometimes she over does it, but I don't think any of her advice was given with malice. Yes, she gives herself too much credit and she tells too many people, but in this game name me one player who doesn't turn themselves into "god" or "mother Teresa" every chance they get.
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Muffin
Member
08-29-2007
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 1:00 am
kel, figured as much. Guess it' time to go to bed. Night all
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 1:02 am
So, EM, how do you explain her repetition of the "shorts" story if it wasn't malicious? Was she really just trying to "help" Rachel by telling everyone over and over how gross, disgusting, and dirty Rachel is? That's the kind of thing that you privately discuss with the person involved and let it go if you don't want to humiliate them. Shelly broadcast it to the entire house and then wouldn't let it go.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 1:03 am
I actually believe there are 2 Shelly's in the game. There is the game Shelly and there is the person Shelly. Shelly is very conservative, she doesn't approve of how some of these girls act (I'm closer in age to the girls, and I think their choices are poor). She thinks she is giving them good advice. I may not agree with what or how she is saying it, but I get it. I'm right in between the 2 age groups, and I think I see both sides. Her advice is spot on because this stuff is going to follow you for the rest of your life....just ask Rachel! Then there is the game side of Shelly. I think she is amazing in how she can make people stop and think and go in different directions. I don't think it's going to work til the end of the game, but I am impressed.
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 1:05 am
EDT here.
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