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Tk27
Member
07-04-2004
| Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 12:59 pm
I'm just curious to see what people think. Does Rachel love BB more than Brendon. My vote goes to BB. I believe that if Rachel gets evicted and lets say has to face off against Cassie. She would know that if she doesn't win that competition that Brendon is right there in the studio and if she throws the competition and lets Cassie go in. She could go home with Brendon in a matter of minutes. My money is on Big Brother and of course the excuse will be the stipend. But I will know better Rachel and BB sitting in a tree ........
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 1:08 pm
We could make that same assumption for any of the houseguests. For example, does the fact that she is on the show mean that Shelly loves BB more than her daughter? I don't think that is true. But I kind of see what you mean. Some houseguests go on and on in very dramatic ways about how they miss people (see Rachel) when all it would take to see the people is to walk out the door.
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 1:24 pm
I don't think you can make that kind of judgement call for any of them, they went there to win the money, sure they get down and get lonely, look at the people on survivor when they see their families, do we question why they don't leave with their loved ones. Why is Rachel's love being questioned, why isn't it about all of them. <77>
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 1:35 pm
The other factor is that all of these contestants should know that their partner or family is okay with them being away for a while. They knew what they were doing when they signed up for the show.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 1:39 pm
Rachel doesn't love BB or Brendon as much as she just loves attention. She returned to BB just to (hopefully) win a lot of money for her lavish fairy tale wedding and to restore her image that she ruined on her last BB appearance. Both of those goals seem rather unlikely at this point. She acts as if having the perfect wedding will somehow fix her less than perfect relationship. She does loves Brendon, but she must know there's something wrong there because he always makes her feel bad about herself. Her priorities seems to be reversed from what they should be. Rachel's priorities are currently 1-Win BB, 2-Have a fairy tale wedding, followed by a distant 3-working on her relationship with Brendon by working on her own self esteem issues instead of turning her will and her life over to Brendon's control. JMO.
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Jag2000
Member
07-01-2009
| Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 3:04 pm
Sanfran..you hit the nail on the head..Rachelle has no self esteem at all. She is soo insecure that she is making huge mistakes in her life that will haunt her forever. She can't get a job, has no where to live, and has spent all her money. She should go home to her parents and get her life in order thru treatment and counseling. No more reality shows and nor more Brendon until she gets help. Meds.are only a temporary fix.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 3:57 pm
Hmmm....Jag. Sounds kind of like Jeff, too. 
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 4:10 pm
I don't think I've heard Jeff say he CAN'T get a job..I think he's still enjoying his 15 minutes. Rachel on the other hand has said she couldn't get a job because of her 15 minutes.
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 4:11 pm
And to stay on topic, I think Rachel loves Brendan more than BB and herself.
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 6:53 pm
She clearly loves Brendon more because when she spends a week sleeping in the stupid have not room instead of a normal bed when she is competing for 500k, she clearly does not care about winning. Okay let me rephrase that.. She might care about being on Big Brother more as her entire self esteem and image is now tied only to being on big brother, but she does not care about winning just being on it. That is why she does ridiculous things that hurt her chances at winning for the sake of Brendon and for other reasons. Like I said sleeping in the have not room for a week when you are in a game COMPETING multiple times a week for 500k is just stupid when you do not have to... It doesn't matter how much you "love" someone. That is why the idea of Brendon and Rachel getting married scares me. Their relationship is way too immature and no way no how they should be getting married if Rachel can't even stand to be away from Brendon for 5 minutes.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 7:54 pm
I think Brendon not wanting Rachel to work as a waitress, when she has no other job, is a great big red flag. Her going along with this screams neediness. IMO, it's all very sad. People who are in destructive relationships say they stay because they luuuuv the other person. It isn't love, but I don't know what to call it--dependency?
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 8:43 pm
For sure dependency. Is it true Brendon won't let Rachel do the job she is best at when he makes no money? I agree that is a massive red flag. This couple is doomed for failure.
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Jag2000
Member
07-01-2009
| Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 9:59 pm
Brendon has been living off of Rachael's savings. She told him where to use her Debit card when they were both on the block and if he left before her. Not only is he controlling but also a user. Jeff is also controlling to a certain point. But they live in separate states, so does not control Jordan's entire life. I hear him telling her not to talk to certain people without him there. To me that is controlling but Jordan is not as needy as Rachael and does have self esteem.
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Monday, August 08, 2011 - 5:34 pm
And I wonder if Jeff only tells her that in the house because she might let something slip or trust someone she shouldn't.
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Monday, August 08, 2011 - 6:11 pm
Not to turn this into a JJ thread... but the conspiracy theorist in me got to thinking. Jeff and Jordon were cute on their season. After that they got to spend some time and even went on Amazing Race. In the meantime they have this fan club that buys them gifts and trips. The cynic in me wonders if this is just not a faux relationship continued for the relaity exposure, and for their "fans". They get to benefit from being a "couple". They don't actually have to spend much time with each other because they live across the country from each other. It is a win-win for them. I don't doubt they are very good friends, but I just wonder how strong the romantic bond is. Don't get me wrong, I am not one of those people who think Brendon-Rachel behavior is normal or acceptable. I am not basing this on how they treat each other... I just think a combination of things makes me wonder... It benefits them both to remain as a couple. They would not have come back on BB this season if they were not still a couple. They would not have their fan club keep buying them stuff if they split up. They have a fan club for their "Relationship" as a couple. It is a weird and unique situation. I think Brendon and Rachel have tried to create the same thing and failed miserably. Nobody cares about their relationship.
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Me_poster
Member
03-02-2010
| Monday, August 08, 2011 - 6:28 pm
i disagree marksman, i think jeff and jordan are a couple. they are just taking it slow. it would be a big move for jordon to move out of state and live with a man she is not married to. she has always lived with her mom and not on her own. she has pretty good values and self respect. i think they are a true couple and not for the sake of their fans. i am a huge fan of theirs and would not be upset if they broke up, i wish them happiness whether they are together or not. i believe that rachel is very much in love with brandon, more then bb. unfortunately it is not a healthy love.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Monday, August 08, 2011 - 7:24 pm
"It benefits them both to remain as a couple. They would not have come back on BB this season if they were not still a couple." Dani and Dick hadn't even been speaking to each other for 3 years but they were still brought back as a "duo". Jeff and Jordan just don't seem savvy enough to work CBS for publicity like a lot of BB's HGs have done over the years. I think they got those other gigs just because they had a lot of fans that really like them....and that translates into ratings.
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M4nd33
Member
07-12-2011
| Monday, August 08, 2011 - 8:27 pm
I don't think either Brendon or Rachel know what love is. Especially since it's clear Rachel doesn't really love herself. Their relationship does not seem healthy at all though!
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 12:33 pm
The same doubt has occurred to me, too, Marksman.
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