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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 2:14 am
When the bar keeps changing to accept people, how can anyone who is not prejudice ever not be seen as prejudice? This is a serious question I have had for years. In my heart I am not prejudice, but over and over, I see people being accused of prejudice because we are up on the current pattern of speech. Who is continuing the racism? Seriously.
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 2:48 am
I watch TV, other social mediums. It seems than when a phrase is out there and mainstream..........those that are not the within that demographic are labled prejudice. (they can't say it.) Example: Jeff called Kalia 'sister' while playing bags a while a go. Kalia said it was offensive. I call my teen daughters sister. How can we all get along when words and phrase's can only be said on one side? My kids have brought all ethniticiets (sp) into this house........I just see kids. But I don't know what is allowed to say.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 2:56 am
its a tough call. If its involving family, using terms of Endearment or Slang is acceptable' because i think they understand what we mean. Calling a virtual stranger of colour "boy, sister, or Brother" it definitely could be considered racist/ prejudice. Even tone of voice can change a meaning. yet in society, its quite common for kids to call each other Homies, Pimps and HOs. Its become slang for what was a HUGE insult when I was in school. 'pimping out' used to mean Making girls become prostitutes. Now its something NICE!!! pimping out a car, a house, etc.
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 3:16 am
Back to ...can't win for loosing, no matter where you heart is Sun.
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Pippin04
Member
10-26-2007
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 5:37 am
I was called out recently for saying something that was racist. I called the colourful sprinkled candies you put on ice cream and cakes jimmies. The sales person told me that they are sprinkles and the term jimmies was racist. I still do not understand. Now I am not a racist/prejudice person, I accept everyone for who they are. However, I did see a film recently called London River. It was a fictional story based on the true story of the London transit terrorist bombings. It was a really good film, and I will not go into great detail about the film. But it is about two families. One muslim and one not. All I could think about during the film was that the muslim guy made the non-muslim girl do something bad regarding the terrorism. Now I did know the true story. It happened a few years ago and I remember it. There was no female terrorist but I was so quick to judge someone based on religion, although I was aware of the truth. I had a lot of issues resolving this in my head and not sure why my opinion of someone could be so easily turned.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 6:02 am
What bar keeps changing, the one that includes everyone?
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Sheilaree
Member
07-19-2002
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 6:05 am
I am not prejudice it hard for white people to get to know black people because I think they don't want to get to know you they just hang around each other. We have a nice aide for my mother.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 6:32 am
Prejudice is in the ear of the beholder....but I can tell you what real prejudice is. Prejudice is HATE. Words are just words, until there is hate behind them. People nowadays give words just too much power, and innocent statements can suddenly without warning turn you into a societal parariah in other's eyes. I say screw 'em Mummy. Educate yourself on HATRED FOR DIFFERENCES IN PEOPLES and you will know what real prejudice is....hate for those who are different...hate which requires the erradication or demoralizing an entire group of people because they are different from you. Next time someone tells you you are being racist, make them tell you why. If that vendor could not explain why jimmies are considered a racist remark, then he is the ignorant one. If the vendor does explain why, you can apologize for any offense, then explain that the word jimmie never meant that to you, and you've never had that kind of hate in your heart, so the word is not prejudical...it means ice cream toppings...PERIOD. Whew...sorry... I just get a bit ticked at this kind of crap. Prejudice = HATE. PERIOD. END OF STORY. If you are not perpetuating hate for others in your life, you are not prejudiced. Easy rule to follow... 
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Leroy17
Member
08-01-2010
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 8:16 am
By giving words magical powers to offend the end result is just to prolong prejudice of various sorts and empower it. Taboo words make it easier to give offense by just uttering the right magical formula. To explore the magic powers idea a little more, just look at "the f word". There are dozens of exact synonyms for it that are in current use that no-one objects to ("frak" from Battlestar Galactica for example), but the one sequence of phonemes "ff followed by uhh followed by kk" is labeled unspeakable and evil. What's the difference? Even "screw" can be said in most contexts without the same stigma being attached. To quote Samuel Beckett, "People are bloody ignorant apes."
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 8:25 am
Interesting thread, Mummy. Pippin, I was confused as well. I had never heard that 'Jimmie' was offensive. In fact it's kinda a compliment depending on how its used LOL from urban dictionary... a jimmie is a smokin' hot guitar. the words guitar and penis are interchangeable. The guitar and the penis generally have the same effect on the ladies - and guys. he played with his jimmie for hours. he has the hottest jimmie on stage. that jimmie smokes!
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 8:29 am
Very true Leroy!! BTW, almost everyone at work calls me sister...beats the heck out of Mom LOL. When I was growing up, I worked with peeps that still had to ride on the back of the bus. I had girls in school that used that as an excuse to try to beat me up.....even though I had nothing to do with it...I was still white. Prejudice isn't one sided, but it is getting better IMHO as each generation gets away from that time frame. My mom was upset with me the other day for having a gay friend. She thinks others will think I'm "like that". I think nothing of it. Actually, my niece lives with me and I consider her gay friends the better of her friends. Once again, as time rolls on...each generation seems to accept things a little more. We don't have to be like our parents were!! If I don't use the current PC word....so what! I know what is in my heart!!
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Sheilaree
Member
07-19-2002
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 8:35 am
Well if people don't give other people a chance how can the be called a racist?
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Lazylu
Member
04-09-2010
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 8:45 am
I think prejudice is alive and well in this country. I firmly believe some of the hate towards our President is not because of his policies, it is because of his race. Sad!
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Fivel
Member
07-26-2005
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 8:59 am
Kep, you said it perfectly. Thank You.
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Kaykohl
Member
05-10-2004
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 9:22 am
Kep, I’m African American and totally agree with you. I think we get so caught up in the individual words without making a reference to what context the words are being used. Sometimes a single word is picked out of a whole statement and everything that person said is negated because of the focus of that single word. It drives me crazy. I find that some folks are holding back on legitimate opinions they may have, but are afraid of being called a racist because of having that opinion especially when the opinion is about a situation rather than a specific group of people. Too me this PC crap makes it hard to get past the individual words and prevents us from getting to more meaningful conversations. I have good friends who have good hearts and if they speak out about a situation, it’s because of the situation, not because they are racist. It wasn’t easy to get to where I am with my friends. But we broke thru a lot of misunderstandings about people we thought we knew, but never really knew because we never had the conversations. I’m still hoping there will be a day when across the world we can say “ I just don’t like you or your opinions”, regardless of race or religion, period. I hate toward Obama is because of his policies and not because he's black.
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 9:25 am
Preach Lazylu preach .It was also a lack of respect when during the state of the union speech that he was called a liar . Also the 4 star general who tried to disrespect President Obama lost his job; and I am glad.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 9:28 am
ITA Kep421. We all bleed red is a saying my grandmother told my dad back in the 1930's when a black family moved to their all white Indiana coal mining town. Years later this family's son grew up to go into the military with my dad during the Korean war and during some state time they were in Biloxi Mississippi and had all kinds of troubles getting cabs, eating in restaurants. The weirdest thing that happened my dad told me was this man they both worked with and got along with asked my dad for a ride home. My dad and his friend had bought a car together on account they could never share cab fare because no taxi's would take a white and black man in the same cab in the 1950's in that area. So anyway my dad says sure and he and his buddy get in the front seat and the guy wanting the ride gets into the back seat. So my dad drives them and turns down the main street of town and my dad said as soon as he turned the corner the dude in the back opened up the car door and dove out then ran down the street. Next day at work he explained to both my dad and his childhood friend that if he'd been seen driving down the street with a black man he'd get harassed by the prejudice people. So that's what I know about prejudice. Without it you make friends with good people and save money on cabs and gas. With prejudice you walk home, live in fear, and you could lose two really good friends who are still friends today and live across the street from each other.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 9:32 am
I'm absolutely disgusted by what Obama has had to deal with Marameko and I'm glad that general lost his job.
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Kaykohl
Member
05-10-2004
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 9:43 am
What! because he's black, no one has a right to question or criticize him? He the President, every single president faces criticism.
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M4nd33
Member
07-12-2011
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 9:47 am
I love how Obama has had to prove over and over again that he's a US Citizen. It's just mind boggling. We're in an economic downfall, we're in the midst of several wars, there are SO many things going it. I really don't think it has anything to do with his citizenship, it has to do with the color of his skin. I've also heard the argument that Obama's father was Muslim. Well? So what?! My dad was raised Catholic, and my mom Baptist. I myself am spiritual but not religious, and I don't follow either denomination. I think racism/prejudice/hate is thriving in America these days. People are more politically correct in their speech, but there is still so much hate.
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Just_gail
Member
08-25-2007
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 9:48 am
To be prejudiced is to prejudge. It isn't only about race, religion, sex, etc. Many people prejudge those who have tattoos, believing them to be gang members, criminals, drug addicts, for example. Or those who are obese, assuming they are lazy, stupid, selfish or whatever. I find myself thinking less of those who have strong regional accents and I remind myself not to make assumptions about them based on how they speak. I don't hate anyone, but I am prejudiced. Not proud of it, but I do try to do better.
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M4nd33
Member
07-12-2011
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 9:49 am
Kaykohl, I have no problem with Obama being questioned or criticized. It's the reasoning behind the questioning. Question his methods, his ideas, his goals... but the fact that he's showed his birth certificate and his citizenship is STILL being questioned. It just nauseates me. And for the record, I voted for Obama but have been frustrated with the way his term has been going.
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Lazylu
Member
04-09-2010
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 9:51 am
Of course, everyone has the right to criticize any President, but they criticize him for things no other President has had to prove and for things all other Presidents have done, policy wise.
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M4nd33
Member
07-12-2011
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 9:52 am
Unfortunately for those of us with beautiful tattoo work, tattoos are considered trashy. More than likely because of tattoos like this: http://ugliesttattoos.failblog.org/
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 9:52 am
sure the President can be criticized; this America and we can agree to disagree. But you obviously don' t criticize the President as General and keep your job. (goggle Douglas Mc Arthur) nor do you yell out at the state of the state address; does anyone recall that happening to another President ??
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