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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 11:59 am
We're gagging to death on our own political correctness. I don't need someone to explain other meanings to anything. If I'm looking at the little brown sprinkles and calling them jimmies and someone wants to call me a racist or prejudice, that's their problem. Not mine. People need to get over their persecuted selves and realize that sometimes there is no other meaning. This is one screwed up world.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 12:11 pm
I think learning and understanding is the way to go.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 12:22 pm
It's always nothing personal - until it happens to you.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 12:58 pm
Education about many things would be the best medicine. We must talk, and share and call someone on their mistakes. I work with a woman of color who blames everything on race, and uses the Bible to tell us all why gays don't deserve rights. When I explain to her why she is being homophobic, she doesn't get it, but she seems to be clear on racism? We have all decided that she is using her race as a way to get what she wants. Someone must have taught her this growing up. Unfortunately this "fake" racism stuff keeps many from having actual educational dialogue.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 1:26 pm
I sure haven't seen a lot of improvement with "education" as evidenced by your own story, Earth. Did your coworker see the light or even consider it? Until what happens to you, Jimmer? I've experienced racism first hand and all it did was make me shake my head at the sheer ignorance of some people and then move on. There was no reasoning with them or educating them or even talking to them. I put up with them cause I had no other choice and then got away from them as soon as I could. Again, their problem, not mine. The race card has become a joke these days. And not a funny one.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 1:33 pm
Well from this it appears that not everyone is as good as you with dealing with these things, Chippy. It's easier for most people to talk and deal with things from a clinical viewpoint. It's different when it's personal.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 2:05 pm
I find myself scared by racism. I cannot understand it. It is stronger than prejudice. The death of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr in 1968 was a terrible blow to the black community he loved. It was a terrible blow to anybody who believed in his message. At least in Philadelphia the reaction was to be angry toward whites.It was a black man who killed Dr. King but anger was turned toward whites. I had to hear racial slurs aimed at me just because I was walking down the street. I didn't try to understand it. I just wanted it to go away.
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Gusmonster
Member
06-01-2005
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 2:05 pm
Maineiac and Pamy, Shelly and I did remain and are friends today. She was a bridesmaid at my wedding. My uncle refused to attend for that reason.
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Southerngirl
Member
07-28-2008
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 2:21 pm
Dogdoc, James Earl Ray was white.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 2:34 pm
She's a little better Chippy. It takes time and understanding to get to the deep roots of this kind of behavior as it isn't based on anything real. But she does ask what we think caused whatever she would normally call racist, and sometimes she realizes that not everything is black and white, sometimes it just IS.
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Dlkuhn4
Member
07-14-2002
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 2:51 pm
Gus I swear I am fighting tears thinking about you and that poor little girl and being just a child is even worse! It's so sad that people are so blind and act tha way. I had lived in TN. for years and you never get use to how cruel people can be just because of a skin color! The sad thing it is everyplace. Your Uncle missed out for sure!
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Dlkuhn4
Member
07-14-2002
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 2:58 pm
It's amazing how someone you love and know is a good person and then one day they say something so bad you never feel the same way. There is someone in my family who did this. I asked if we could stop and get some Chicken and I said I was really wanting Popeyes or even churches and she said what are we black now! I was speakless! Then I started seeing other things that I didnt see before so I really don't even talk to this person any more because they are so small minded!
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Maineiac
Member
08-24-2009
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 3:00 pm
Maineiac and Pamy, Shelly and I did remain and are friends today. She was a bridesmaid at my wedding. My uncle refused to attend for that reason. Gusmonster, I'm happy to hear your friendship survived society's hate, but it makes me sad to know your uncle died with hate still in his heart.
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Maineiac
Member
08-24-2009
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 3:26 pm
Shen, I've been wanting to respond to your posts about the military. I grew up on a farm in a small northern town, very sheltered as my husband would say. I married an airmen in the military at 22. I have lived at three different bases in New York, North Dakota and Goergia. There is no better way to be multicultured than living the military life.LOL I have developed friendships with people from all over the country and world and with many different cultures. Now my teenage girls are experiencing what I didn't have, diversity. They have friends of many cultures and they don't see color, only friendship. However, being in the South, they are surrounded by racism every day. My husband and I have always influenced and stressed to our children that you don't judge someone by the color of their skin but by their character. Even though my husband took me away from my family and I've never lived near them since I was 22 yrs old, It was the best thing that ever happened to a sheltered farm girl. It really opened my heart and mind to the human race. If one or both of my daughters were dating and wanted to marry a man of another race, I would welcome it with open arms, as long as he was an up standing guy and treated her with respect and love. Besides mixed races make the most beautiful babies.
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Gusmonster
Member
06-01-2005
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 3:29 pm
Dlkuhn4, it does change how you see someone doesn't it? So sad. Maineiac, I tried so hard to talk to my uncle so many times but he wouldn't hear me. I feel sad for him too but it was his choice.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 3:32 pm
I'm so happy to hear that you and Shelly remained such good friends. That must have taken a lot of courage and independent thinking on your part.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 3:35 pm
Unfortunately, Gusmonster no matter how hard you try sometimes they are just set in their ways and you either accept them for who they are and correct them when they say things inappropriate, or you cut your loses. I've done both.
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Jadajean
Member
03-23-2008
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 5:28 pm
Thoughts, I would have also told Jeff not to call me "sister"-I never heard him refer to Lydia, Michelle, Natalie or even Chima as such. I think he got to familiar too fast. A person once referred to me as an "Afro American". I politely told her that I was not a hair style. While "African American" might be PC - not every black person in America is American. Those who have never been the "only" in a situation or setting have no idea how it feels to be the "only" ie, Kalia being in the house. Wow , can't believe I'm defending Kalia, as I really, really don't like her.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 5:31 pm
Sorry Dogdoc. I thought it was you. Someone asked that question. Gus, I absolutely LOVE that you are still friends! I got chills reading your post! You wedding was better off without your uncle there. What a sad human he musta been.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 6:08 pm
"Those who have never been the "only" in a situation or setting have no idea how it feels to be the "only" ie, Kalia being in the house. " Actually, Kalia is not the "only" in the BB house....at this point, 20% of the HGs are black. ETA - But I do get your point....I've often been the "only" gay person in some situations and it can make me feel awkward or uneasy or maybe even defensive, depending on the particular circumstances.
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Jadajean
Member
03-23-2008
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 6:13 pm
I was referring to her being the only black female in the house since Lawn and Keith had each other so to speak. I would love BB to be as diverse as Project Runway is at times.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 6:26 pm
I've been the only plenty of times. Yes, it can be awkward, yes it can be uncomfortable, at first. After awhile, most people will like or dislike you for who you are, not what you are. It's up to you. Now, she's been in there for 27 days. The uncomfortableness of being the only should have passed by now...if you let it. I don't think she is willing to let it go, it's like a security blanket for her. She can use it to explain why people avoid her and don't want to talk to her, other than the real reason.
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Jadajean
Member
03-23-2008
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 6:30 pm
Ditto Keldogg - I would avoid her because she's greedy, lazy and talks too much!!!!!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 7:16 pm
"Those who have never been the "only" in a situation or setting have no idea how it feels to be the "only" interesting post. I've been a single woman thru most of my thirties and been the ONLY single at a workplace. The prejudice is immediately that you MUST be a lesbian. I'm quite private about my private life at work but I thought that it was quite telling that people would automatic try to Label. Especially after a longterm and bad breakup with a guy. believe me, its just as hateful to have been label with a contraversial label because i dont share my dirty laundry
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 7:19 pm
glad to hear the pitt is from a rescue. wish there was REAL jailtime for those dog Fight people. there is TONS of real prejudice in our society. One of the big problems in MY opinion is that the Lives of animals are considered unimportant compared to human. wish we had stronger laws as per farming, chicken/ beef etc. i think most people here would be horrified and not want to eat meat again
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