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What555456
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06-14-2005

Friday, August 05, 2011 - 3:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Setting aside who you like or dislike on the show, from a straight strategic standpoint of who would best help Kalia's game, who should she nominate and who should she work to evict?

Sanfranjoshfan
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Friday, August 05, 2011 - 4:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Rachel and Porsche.

They seem to be together and it's obvious Rachel will be gunning for Dani and her allies, which includes Kalia.

If she puts up either Jeff or Jordan, the other "J" and a couple of the newbs won't like it.

I think Rachel and Porcshe are the only two she can safely nominate without causing anti-Kalia sentiment from other HGs.

Mizinvanccouver
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Friday, August 05, 2011 - 4:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mizinvanccouver a private message Print Post    
Well it would depend on whether she's figured out the 'twist' or not. If she has figured out the twist I would say Jeff and Rachel. Then if either takes themselves off she can put up Jordan or Adam.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Friday, August 05, 2011 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
In my mind, the best thing she can do is to continue to eliminate the power couples so they no longer represent two solid votes in everything.

Dani is now one her own. Rachel is too. It is time to do the same with Jeff and Jordan. One of them should go and then everyone left in the game is an individual playing for him/herself.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, August 05, 2011 - 4:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Rachel and Porshe.

Rachel hates Kalia and her best ally (Dani) and will never fully work with them, regardless of what she says, and if there is any other choice will not vote for them if she were on the jury (and there's a chance if Rachel goes next she won't be).

Furthermore a case could easily be made at he end, if she were against Adam or Lawon, that they didn't deserve to win, but against Rachel that wouldn't be as easy.

And K and D seem to have a reasonable working relationship with Jeff and Jordan, so it's probably easiest to keep them sweet at the moment.

So Rachel and Porsche.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Friday, August 05, 2011 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
I'm going w/Rachel & Porsche

K & D (assuming they are solid) can work a deal w/J&J that if they are not put up or back doored this wk, K&D will have the same guarantee if J or J is HOH next wk. Lawon is the biggest non-player this season. Besides, he was K's orig. partner & also a newbie. Adam & Shelly are the floaters.........but, does K realize this? K would be smart to also work a similar deal w/them like she should w/J&J. That pretty much protects her all the way around.......assuming that the target is Rachael.

Maineiac
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08-24-2009

Friday, August 05, 2011 - 5:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maineiac a private message Print Post    
ITA with Kitt. Rachel won't stop until she gets Dani out and Kalia will be her second target because she's friends with Dani.

The rest of the houseguests won't care if Rachel or Porche go home, so there wouldn't be much aftrmath.

Jeff and Jordan don't seem to have either Dani or Kalia on their radar(I could be totally wrong, I don't have feeds).

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Friday, August 05, 2011 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    
Weren`t the other hms targetting Dani and Kalia this week if any of them had won HOH ??

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Friday, August 05, 2011 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
I said last night Rachel and Porsche.
Dani would probably prefer Shelly over Porsche, so if it's Shelly then Dani probably won the day.
Regardless, I think whomever isn't nominated would be the replacement nom if need be.
Kalia and Jeff had some "issues," but putting him up at this stage could be seen as more "emotional" than strategic.

Nyheat
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Friday, August 05, 2011 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I think one of them is gonna be Rachel and that she will be going home, unless Rachel wins POV. She's the most logical choice and the other HGs will have no qualms about getting rid of her.

Marameko
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Friday, August 05, 2011 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
Rachel and Porsche.

But now I hate to see Kalia back down and not put up Jeff; he is being a bully. it is arrogant of him to think he could get back in the B B house if evicted.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Friday, August 05, 2011 - 9:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
So, it's Rachel and Jeff.

Kind of what I was thinking, but the smart move would be to work to get Jeff out. Break up Jordan and Jeff. Eliminate the power couples.

If Jeff gets off by the veto, then put up Jordan.

Caramella
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07-20-2002

Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 12:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caramella a private message Print Post    
That would be great to replace Jordan with Jeff if he wins POV, but Kalia has made promised to never put her up (Jordan). Big mistake, IMO, because I don't believe she'd feel do the same if she got power again. I could easily see Jeff telling her to put up Kalia and Dani...and she'd do it.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 12:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
if jeff is taken off with POV, the only good game would be to put up Shelley. IF rachel doesnt get J J two votes, she is Going to BE po'd.

that will prove shelley is more important to them then She is. IF rachel comes back then, she will be on a war path.

however, i think dani will be backdoored. kalia is cagey.

Spunky
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Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 5:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I'd say Kalia did okay with the nominations, in that JJ could be split. They should really try to break up JJ and not wasting votes to get Rachel out since she'll be a constant target and will soon go anyway.

But to me the best move would be to backdoor Daniele. Kalia doesn't see that Daniele is the biggest threat to anyone in the house.

However, with this dumb twist on Thursday it's just a matter of who could win the challenge to get back in the house, so we have Jeff or Rachel fighting maybe Cassi, since she's up in the polls, and I'm not so sure Cassi can win to get back in the house.

Michaelwinicki
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09-04-2006

Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Michaelwinicki a private message Print Post    
Backdooring Dani in order to leave Rachael, and the last remaining couple in there wouldn't be the best move.

Yeah, Dani has had a couple of good weeks, but she's still no higher than 4th on the power list after the three listed above.

You still have as a rag-tag alliance:

Rachael
Jeff
Jordan
Shelly
Porshe
Adam

I don't see Dani as the big threat... yet.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Kalia backdooring Dani would be one of the dumbest moves in the history of BB. You really need 2 people to make it to the end. The theory being that one of you potentially could win HOH each week. It also gives you 2 potential players in the Veto comps, at least 1 person to vote your way, and someone who can maybe work on others to get them on your side. If Kalia were to backdoor Dani, who does she have left...Lawon? I mean really.

Nominating Jeff also may not have been her best move. While she and Jeff have had words, the biggest threat to her partnership with Dani is Rachel. Rachel's "partner" is Porsche. Putting them both on the block should have sent one of the out the door with the prospect of them returning. Rachel is already an "enemy" to Kalia and Dani...why make one of Jeff & Jordan...and whomever may be aligned with them?

If Jeff were to get evicted somehow (although if the Noms stay the same I'd think he would be safe,) and then he came back, Dani & Kalia would now have at least 4 people gunning for them...maybe more.

They know Shelly is shady, and seems to be voting with J&J, so having her as a potential BD nom had she put up Rachel and Porsche again would have made more sense. Putting Shelly on the block might not have made J&J happy, but it's totally different than nominating Jeff.

While it might be a good thing to send out a physically strong guy who is in a tight pair, Jeff hasn't lit the BB house on fire with winning stuff, and Jordan only won the one HOH. Kalia and Dani could probably beat J&J in most comps.

Much like Dani trying to get rid of Jeff, this seems like maybe 2 weeks too soon. The bigger threat to Kalia and Dani is Rachel and by association Porsche. They were already "enemies" so why make more?

Backdooring Dani now would be like finding yourself on a deserted island with a strong wooden life raft, and then using the life raft for firewood.

Michaelwinicki
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Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Michaelwinicki a private message Print Post    
I could have seen a Rachel and Porsche nomination.

Certainly there's merit in not nominating Jeff in order to avoid wrath from he & Jordan.

But I think at this point everyone in the house recognizes (at least those not named Jeff, Jordan and Shelly) that the last remaining couple does need to be broken up.

Like I said in my other post getting rid of any of these folks should be a prime goal:

Rachel
Jordan
Jeff

Nana
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Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nana a private message Print Post    
she needs to put up Jordan.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 1:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
If Kalia puts up Jordan as a pawn after making such a big deal about her promise not to, she is guaranteed not to get jury votes from Jordan, Jeff and if Rachel or Brendon come back in, one of them. All it takes is one other person to vote against her and she loses. She keeps saying that she came here to win, so she needs to start thinking about the jury votes (and she already blew that by nominating Jeff in the first place).

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 3:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    
Gosh I remember the days when HOH used to get credit for making moves and knocking out the `big` players in the game when it came to jury votes.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 5:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Knocking out a "big player" doesn't seem to help a person win if that player ends up poisoning the jury, especially when the "big player" feels that you blatantly lied to them.

J&J aren't the only "couple" left as Dani & Kalia are CLEARLY a "pair" now. Their bond may not be as strong as J&J, but they're a known "team" just the same.

So, will she do the smart thing and put up Porsche to assure Rachel goes (by eliminating a vote for Rachel,) or rub salt in the wound and put up Jordan?

What555456
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Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 7:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Dani and Kalia have no where near the bond that Jeff and Jordan have. There is no equating the two.

And why get rid of Rachel now? She poses no real threat -- and in fact Kalia can negate her as one simply by putting up Jordan and then working with Rachel and others to get Jordan out of the house.

Except for eliminating Jordan, there is no way to get rid of the double vote of Jeff and Jordan, which becomes even more powerful as there are fewer and fewer in the House.

Biloxibelle
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Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 7:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
I wouldn't mind seeing Jordan go. Especially since she offered to be voted out so Rachel can stay. Say what you want about Rachel and I certainly am not a fan, at least she wants to be there. I don't view getting someone who has already proven to be an end game winner out, as a bad thing.

I liked Jordan the first time around. Then I watched her pretty much just walk her way through the Amazing Race. To me I am not seeing any more enthusiasm for BB than she showed for Amazing Race. I just get the feeling Jeff is dragging her along on his adventures.

Jag2000
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07-01-2009

Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jag2000 a private message Print Post    
Biloxi..Jordan was soo bad on TAR, Jeff could only pull her along so far. They did terrible decoding something and they were gone. Jordan is a very sweet girl but also very naive and unless this was AllStars, she should not be on this season. She won, let someone else get the chance. Rachael is more interesting and entertains us...Jordan is like watching paint dry, as are a few of the newbies.