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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 10:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
So of course you think that either Kevin or Natalie would have been much more deserving winners?

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 10:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
I think Kevin played a great game and for a while, I thought Natalie did too. I would have been glad to see either of them win. Jordan seemed oblivious most of the season- to the game, to every housemate except Jeff, and to any sort of strategy. If she wasn't her sweet southern self, pretty to look at, and charmingly slow on the uptake, she would have been just another of the many that took up space and justly irritated many fans of the game itself.

It's my opinion. Obviously not shared by many but that's not why I watch so...

Lexie_girl
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Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 5:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Yeah... what Chippy said...

Jimmer
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Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I agree that Jordan didn't do much playing throughout much of the season, though I think she showed very good instinct with respect to other people in the house and formed the relationships that she needed to get votes at the end. Plus she didn't back into the final two. She won several competitions at the end. So while I would hardly call Jordan one of the most astute and capable winners, she wasn't completely passive and lucky. She played a better game than most of the contestants on that season.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
I think everyone would have felt better about Jordan winning if Jeff hadn't got that super veto switch power that completely turned the game upsidedown. Once BB did that they soured the game in a way they can't get back and now folks will always be suspicious. I hope they cool it and let everyone just play. And I'm a J/J fan like 'em but don't want them to get any "help".

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
They were favored and they got favors... and sour sums it up for me in a nutshell... now here they are again. And this time, they're even willing to favor RB so long as they're allied with the annointed couple. It makes me sick. There was nothing random about the order of participation in Jordan's HOH. Rachael got to pick it. When the hell has that ever happened before or since? Add dumb luck and voila... just like last time.

And they certainly dumbed down the IQ level on the newbie side just in case all else failed. I mean, come on... are these the smartest strategists that applied for BB? Oh and let's not forget who knew who and was friends was who outside the house...

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Even if Jordan had gone first in the HOH, she would have still beaten all the newbies, and she probably would have beaten Jeff and Brendon. She did great in that competition!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I only remember Jordan winning two competitions in her first season. The one that Jeff threw so she could get her letter from home, and the final one when she was down to the final three.

Jordan was the ultimate floater. She sat her ass in the backyard for the first two months. She didn't even attempt to socialize with anyone until after Jeff was evicted.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
According to Wikipedia, Jordan won both the HOH and the POV in the same week; and of course she won two of the final three HOH competitions (the basketball roll and the final "what did the jury members say" questions) to make it to the final two.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Okay, so she won the POV the same week that Jeff threw the HOH to her. I only remember her winning the basketball roll on her own, but she obviously had to win the "what did the jury members say" competition.

She was still the ultimate floater... until they were down to the final four.

Rosie
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Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
Doesn't matter what anyone says because she has the money.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
You are correct Rosie, no matter how ironic that someone who didn't play the game won the game.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Yeah, that jury questioning comp is the biggest goat rope known to man and it's always anyone's guess who will pull it out of their azz. The basketball rolling comp was the most dumbed down final comp in the history of BB... again, had to remove dirt from the playing field to give her a prayer and whoohoo, she pulled it off. Maybe they can drag her to the end again and then repeat the golf comp just for grins. Ugh.

I'm not willing to throw everything this game is supposed to be out the window and grow stars in my eyes for any housemate. Not even for what consider the love story of this century.

These two get a pass no matter what... from BB and from the majority of the fans. I guarantee that if RB did some of the stuff JJ do/did, it'd be a whole nother story.

Imagine Brendon saying what Jeff did when asked what he'd be doing that Friday night if he was at home and he pointed to Jordan's crotch and said he'd be "in there". Holy vagina monologue, Batman!

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 1:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
There was this show where they took a middle aged woman and a pretty younger woman and filmed them on a street in a busy city asking for directions. The results were typical the pretty girl got 10 times more help and from alot more men where children and kind strangers were the only ones to help the less attractive lady.

Life's like that. We like the pretty people but in particular when they are genuinely likable. So yes I do enjoy them and I'm sure they get the typical breaks in life that the pretty people get. But if they make me laugh and they do alot, particularily Jeff, that's why I watch.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
So what if Jeff threw it to her. They were allies. The important part is that in order for Jeff to "throw" the HOH to Jordan, she first had to beat everyone else. Which she did.

I agree that the way the final HOH competition is setup it might as well be a coin toss. However, in order to get there she easily defeated Natalie in the second part.

But no worries, Chippy. We know you don't like JJ and there is certainly no reason that people need to like them. It keeps things fun.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 2:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
We? Got a mouse in yer pocket there, Jimmer? I don't know JJ. Simply giving MY opinions on the game and the housemates. I am however glad to know we don't "need" to like them and won't be accused of having a chip on our shoulders if we don't drool over them properly.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 2:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
People thinking Jordan did not play a good game to win her season are making the same mistake people in the big brother house are making thinking that she is not a threat to win again. (Hi Danielle, Rachel and Brendon)

Just because Jordan is not an over-the-top schemer does not mean she does not know what she is doing.

Jordan won a season with one of the most difficult houses in the entire history of Big Brother. The only house that might have been more difficult was Big Brother 8 with Dick and Danielle. I think anyone who thinks she just lucked her way to a win in that house is being naive or ignorant about what really happened.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 2:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Jordan is a schemer. Look how she turned on Rachel last week and will now turn on Dani because they threaten her or Jeff. If anyone threatens her, she will scheme against them. Look what she did to Michelle last year just to get her out of the game because she was tough competition.

She might look sweet, but if she/Jeff don't get their summer vacation, they will throw a fit. Also, the 'summer vacation' is just a ploy. They want more money.

I'm with Chippy about them being brought back and possibly 'helped' to win once again.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
No mouse though we do have a hamster. Honest!

Chippy
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08-16-2007

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Denecee
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09-05-2002

Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 5:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Yep, we all see things differently. I like the way Jordan played or "didn't play". Come on, we aren't talking rocket science here, it's a reality production.

I personally like to watch all the personalities living under the same roof, so I don't even mind most of Brenchal's shenanigans.
But to the potential on the POV, I think when it gets down to no other choices to pick from, they all play and if you aren't on the block and you win it, then you save yourself.