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What555456
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06-14-2005

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
The failure of BB's strategy to bring in the Retreads with the Newbies seems obvious now. The year has basically turned into little more than a mini-All-Stars summer with some weak supporting cast members. If BB wanted an All-Stars Summer, they should have done that.

No doubt, there are scenarios by which someone other than B/R, J/J and Dani might make it to the the final 5, but I don't see it. From Week 1, the newbies have failed to rally themselves and have fallen for the allure of the Big 5. I don't see them regrouping now as any sort of force in the House and I don't see any of them surviving. They are going to be picked off one-by-one until there are only 5 HG's are left standing -- and there will not be a Newbie among them.

(Sorry for the typo in the Title!)

What typo, What? <MG>

Closetfanfour
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07-11-2009

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 8:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Closetfanfour a private message Print Post    
Assuming Dom leaves this week, I would say the ONLY person who would remotely have a chance at organizing the newbies to DO something would be Shelly...and she's too IN with the vets to do that.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
If Cassie comes back maybe she and Shelly would team up again and this time rally the newbies to finally be force to be reckoned with.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 8:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Even if Dom stays (I hope he does -- he is great eye candy!), he has no chance of rallying the Newbies as a group to take on the Big 5. As you say, Shelly is too "in" with them, Adam is too weak to turn against his "heroes" and is more interested in playing the WWE persona, and Porsche, Kalia and Lawon are little more than walk-ons in this game who will cower in the corner at the very thought of showing any strength.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 9:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I'm rooting for Lawon. The vets don't give him much credit and I'd love to see him win. Is liking Lawon an unpopular opinion on this site?

Actually I really want Jordon to win this season again!!!

Rosem4243
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06-27-2005

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 9:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
Out of the newbies left in the house, I don't think any of them will overthrow the vets, unless they can get a vet on their side.

Dani, or one of the two couples would have to peel off from 'the 5' and start a new alliance. Don't see that happening unless Dani wins HOH.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
One of the lone vets tried and look what happened to her. They don't even talk amongst themselves and compare notes. Shelly acts like she answered an ad for BB. Wanted: Retread helper; BS in BS required; Benefits include free medical care post bus-crushing.

Kalia and Lawon are mere numbers in the body count and Porsche who?

In a word by all accounts... NO.

And I don't just blame the newbies for this comatose season. RB, who proclaim to be the best of the best think they have a prayer against JJ how?

It baffles.

If this is the best of the BB applicant gene pool, this show is on life support.

Missyb
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07-28-2004

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
Maybe you bring Keith back. He liked Dani and would easily aligned with her. He could rally both Lawon and Adam to start playing for themselves and not the vets. Even Kalia may jump on that train, seeing that she is not in good standing with the vets anymore. They just need a leader.

While I always thought I wanted Cassi back, I am now thinking it may be Keith I would like to see back in. I think he at least has a backbone.

And, I wouldn't count Porsche out just yet.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Dani and the newbies could stick a big middle finger in the air Thursday and vote out Adam as a unit and take a seat at the game table but it ain't gonna happen. They're more afraid JJ or B will get HOH than they are willing to take any chances to show em they have game.

Lots of talk. No action. It's pitiful.

Someone said JJ are BR are just using each other as "shields". I can see JJ doing that and actually wanting to go to F4 with the world's most hated pair but I can't for the life of me understand RB ever teaming up with JJ, especially after Dick left. They don't have a prayer against them if they want to win.

Toolhound
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06-22-2007

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toolhound a private message Print Post    
If you are watching the feeds you know the final 5 retreads is no more. Dani is pretty much split with them. Hopefully she will get the newbies to band together and she will win HOH to get this game interesting again. If not she will be gone next week.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 10:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
One can hope, Tool, but truth is, the newbies are nad-less. Seems like a prerequisite this year.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
I don't for a minute think Dani has the smarts or the ability to band the Newbies together -- assuming they even want to do more than just be lap dog extras for the Big 5. Nor do I think for a minute that she will stay on the outs with the other 4 Retreads. All she has done in the past couple of days is made sure than when the Big 5 are in the House alone in a few weeks, she will be the first of them to go.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 12:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
I think the problem was that the newbies had to form duos on the spot the first night- so they really didn't have a chance to figure out each others strengths and weaknesses. J/J and B/R know their partner's strengths and weaknesses- and trust each other. The newbie duos didn't have that.

Right now there's still a shot- The newbies still have a slight numbers advantage (assuming it goes to individuals and the GK people come back, the newbies will have a 5-4 advantage in the HOH since Rachel can't play- plus with Brendon being hurt, might have an overall advantage in the HOH this week since it's probably endurance). And I think Dani knows she's the bottom of the totem pole in the veteran group- she's going to have to make a move at some point...

This weeks HOH is going to be crucial...if a newbie wins HOH and doesn't at least make an attempt to split up J/J or R/B, they all deserve to lose...

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Brendon's hurt? What happened?

Pippin04
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10-26-2007

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pippin04 a private message Print Post    
Yes any one of them can do it. Will they? Sadly no!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Yeah, what Pippin said...

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 1:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"Brendon's hurt? What happened?"

He wore the skin off his knees begging Rachel to change from "Vegas" to "doormat".

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 1:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
LOL SFJF!

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 1:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
ROFL SanFran! LOVE IT!!

Southerngirl
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07-28-2008

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 1:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Southerngirl a private message Print Post    
Sanfran, you are too funny!!!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 3:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - No wonder he is hurting!!!

Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 3:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kminfinity a private message Print Post    
I think a couple newbies DO have a chance to make F4.

1. The vets want Dani out ASAP...they'll waffle on this but I see her going sooner than later.

2. Some newbie will win HoH and will be willing to put up B/R or J/J. I'm guessing Adam. Once a vet leaves, the newbies will see more game possibilities.

Of course, if they never win an HoH or control the POV then they are doomed. I'll bet if a noob doesn't win this Thursday, BB will make sure an HoH is random enough to make it possible.

Hwest
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07-01-2011

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hwest a private message Print Post    
ITA with Chippy except I think BR and JJ alliance is a good way for both pairs to survive. In the end it is a crap shoot and if BR are last men standing they will win. It could happen. Jordan won.

Bbpeach
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07-07-2005

Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 10:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbpeach a private message Print Post    
I just don't see the vets really sticking together til the end. Once the jury starts, I see both sides using the newbs they've corraled to try to take each other out. Even if they're saying F4, I think both are figuring that at the very least F5 with the fifth being the one they think is on their side. And along the way, they won't be able to agree who to take out (since they're trying to each save "their" people), and will instead turn on each other.

So, if some newbs just play their cards right, at some point they can take control.

Veganking
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07-24-2009

Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 6:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Veganking a private message Print Post    
The newbies are so weak in competitions, the veterans will start picking each other off so they can win against a newbie at the end.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Porsche might be able to do it. I'm liking her more and more.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 8:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
The thing is, if the newbies want any reasonable shot of winning, they have to get a vet out this coming week...because if there's a vet in the final 2 and the other 4 are in the jury....

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 8:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
If Daniele wins HOH one of the vet is surely going and the newbies could finally take off. And if one of the newbies win HOH and that newbie is allied with JJ or Brenchel, Daniele may be going... it all comes down to POV.
However, the odds that one vet is going next Thursday are pretty high...
As to the newbie who could make it to final, I see Porshe and Shelly or even Adam if he keeps playing that innocently...