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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Big Brother USA ARCHIVES: Big Brother 13 - Part 2: Who Is Better At Emasculating "Her Man" -- Jordan or Rachel?: Archive through July 21, 2011 users admin

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Closetfanfour
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07-11-2009

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 1:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Closetfanfour a private message Print Post    
The last few days, I have also noticed that Jordan seems to want more affection from Jeff, or at least quality time, and she's not getting it. It makes me sad.

Rieann
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08-26-2006

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rieann a private message Print Post    
Sorry to correct you What555456... according to Rachel it is "demasculatized" and per Brendon it is "demasculinate". He is a PhD candidate after all.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Jeff and Jordan have kissed and shown IMO appropriate affection. I'm not the least worried or sad for Jordan I think he and her are both in a normal relationship as far as public displays of affection go. Alot of people don't carry on the way Rachel does and her boyfriend Brendan doesn't seem to care for it and asks her to stop alot. I think some people are so used to the flirty Jeff and Jordan who first met and they aren't those people anymore they've been making a long distance relationship work for 2 years. I say bravo to them. I couldn't do it.

Mary1971
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07-28-2009

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 1:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mary1971 a private message Print Post    
I hope your right but I think it's just a fantasy Jeff & Jordan super fans are hoping for. I really don't think a quick peck on the lips at night is appropriate affection for a couple who have only been together for 2 yrs!! Maybe for a couple at 80 yrs old who have been together for 50 yrs! Even then I would wonder about them! LOL My parents have been married for 47 yrs and still show affection and yes even in public on occassion! Normal relationships show regular affection. Brendon & Rachel may be the other extreme for sure (although honestly IF I were in there with my boyfriend we would for sure be all over each other. Caneras be damned! But, I realize not everyone is like that) BUT with that being said I have seen Jeff & Jordan give a peck to each other maybe 4 times in a few weeks & only a few hugs that Jordan initated. It's very very odd to say the least.

Dawn
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07-24-2009

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 1:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dawn a private message Print Post    
(i apologize if this isn't the right photo but it's hard to tell from a tiny thumbnail lol)
exibit A: jeff and jordan cuddly while everyone is in HOH lockdown (first week - they're on the floor by the HOH bed)



Mary1971
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07-28-2009

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mary1971 a private message Print Post    
Dawn-That's one of the few times I did see affection & again Jordan started it. Only a handle of times I can recall seeing affection between them in the past few weeks. It just feels odd to me.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 2:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Jeff and Jordan get a lot of off camera time and I think that this was arranged with BB before the show started. They probably don't do very much obvious PDA because they know they will get off camera time later in the day.

Jeff and Jordan probably don't want to attract the attention of "Fans" that obsess about their love life.

Ark
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07-10-2001

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 2:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ark a private message Print Post    
I think the way J&J act is very similar to how my husband & I would act if we were in the house. If I give hubby more than a peck on the lips, he is READY. If I weren't willing to provide porn for the feeders, I'd do as little touching as possible.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Rieann, don't forget that Brenden is NOT a NeanderTHAL !!!!

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 2:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
I also think that quite possibly, while they are a couple, the less attention drawn to themselves in the house, the less attention will be focused on them by the others. They are already going to be a target because they ARE a couple, but maybe they can make it happen later rather than sooner! Hope this makes sense!

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 7:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
I just get the impression that Jeff and Jordan are in a mature relationship, they know there are cameras on them 24x7 and they are focused on winning the game.

Me_poster
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03-02-2010

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Me_poster a private message Print Post    
ark- i totally relate-one little touch and boy does the engines roar.

this is bb not love american style.

Jag2000
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07-01-2009

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jag2000 a private message Print Post    
Jordan's grandpa watches the show and she would never embarras her family on TV.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Wow... maybe we need a thread on who is better at being condescending to their so called mate. I'm in the minority- not having any stars in my peepholes over JJ and all- but, honestly, could he be more of an azz in front of everyone telling Jordan what to do and if she doesn't listen, he's gonna be pissed and she's never gonna win anyways. WTH?? And yet, it seemed to be enjoyed by most. On the other hand, the hated couple behaved badly no matter what. Yikes.

Christy358
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07-10-2007

Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 9:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Christy358 a private message Print Post    
Caprica, what do you mean by off camera time?

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 1:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
No buggers. Remember Jordan saying that?

J/J know they are under a bigger microscope than before. I believe they choose to keep the physical affection private. They are used to not being physically together for long lenghts of time. Just listen to how comfortable they are when they talk to each other. That tells more about a relationship than groping.

When you really trust someone and they say don't do something.......you don't even know why, you may not agree in the moment, but you can hear in their voice that they may know something you don't know, you trust, you wait and you listen. It's not about the other person being angry. You may even decide in that moment you know something they don't know and ignore them. It's the pitch of the voice that makes you decide. Then you talk it out. You can only learn that pitch with time.........not with baby talk.

Mary1971
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07-28-2009

Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 2:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mary1971 a private message Print Post    
OK, how often do I have to say: Kissing, touching, hugging is NOT Bugger and NOT PORN. It's a NORMAL healthy loving relationship!!!!!!! I don't think it has anything to do with being on tv or a microscope. I think they are being natural and natural for them NOW is NOT being affectionate because they don't have passion. Sorry, but a relationship without passion is NO relationship. At this point they should just agree to stay friends but end the "sham" of dating. I am not buying it. PS: Chippy-I so agree. Jeff was very condescending to her in that comp and on many other occassions. I get tired of everyone attacking Brendon & Rachel.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 4:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
"Sorry, but a relationship without passion is NO relationship."

Wow... I think this statement is incredibly unfair. My husband and I have been married for one year, and we've known each other for about 7 before that. We are most definitely NOT into PDA as we feel what is between us is private and no one else's business. Our private life is just that...private. When we know there are other's about, we hug and chastely kiss each other and are far less affectionate than JJ are in the house.

But that doesn't mean we don't love each other deeply.

I'm not sure how passion is being defined here, but to me passion is more than just PDA...its the respect and love that one partner shows the other.

I agree with Mary in the sense that sex doesn't define passion, but then neither does PDAs.

My husband and I would never do anything we know would embarrass or emotionally hurt each other or our respective extended families. The fact that JJ care more about each other than what anyone else thinks, tells me they have a relationship that is full of passion for each other. Just because its not openly displayed for all the world to see, doesn't mean its not there.

JMO


Kep421
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08-11-2001

Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 4:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
BTW...being friends is the best part in a passionate relationship. My husband is my best friend and I am his. Being friends as well as husband and wife make our relationship so much better...I know... I had a marriage were my partner and I were not friends...

So if JJ act like friends, to me, that is a GREAT sign of their relationship.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 4:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
RACHEL

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 4:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Kep...I couldn't agree more. My husband and I met on the computer back in 2000, when we met in person (1 1/2 years later) we were already best friends having talked every day either on phone or on computer. In December 2001 when he came to Tennessee to spend the weekend. I went to work on Monday morning leaving him there. It was a week before I spoke to him again and he told me that when he shut and locked that door behind him on Monday he KNEW he wanted to be back on the inside waiting for me to come home. In May of 2002 I moved to Florida and in June 2003 we were married. We have NEVER felt the need for PDA's...but we love each other deeply, MORE so because 4 months after getting married he had to have a quintuple bypass surgery.

I am like MOST of the rest of you in that Jordan and Jeff are so totally in love but they don't have to prove it to us or to each other.

Mary1971
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07-28-2009

Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 5:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mary1971 a private message Print Post    
"Wow... I think this statement is incredibly unfair. My husband and I have been married for one year, and we've known each other for about 7 before that. We are most definitely NOT into PDA as we feel what is between us is private and no one else's business. Our private life is just that...private. When we know there are other's about, we hug and chastely kiss each other and are far less affectionate than JJ are in the house"
It's just my opinion which doesn't make it unfair. I guess it's how you see a love relationship. Chastely kiss? Definition of Chastely: "Morally pure in thought or conduct; decent and modest"
I don't know who would think kissing is immoral but whatever. I haven't chastely kissed in my life and I hope I never do. When I say Passion: I mean you wanna rip their clothes off" I don't mean respecting my partner. Respecting & loving your partner should go without saying in any loving relationship. I am talking about being attracted to your partner and wanting to be near them, touch, them, kiss, hug. I realize some of us are more private (obviously I am NOT a private person) BUT I can't believe Jordan or Jeff's family would care IF Jeff & Jordan made out a bit here & there. I don't see anything morally wrong with passionate kissing when you are in love. I honestly don't think Jeff & Jordan are holding back at all I just don't think they care about being physical anymore which to ME is very very sad. A good healthy loving relationship needs to include: Respect, love, friendship, trust, and a physical attraction & passion as well. Without the passion why NOT just be friends. Just my opinion.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 5:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Just because they are not into PDA does not mean there is NO passion there. I have more respect for myself than to go around PROVING to the world there is passion in my relationship with the world. I do not have to be like Rachel to prove I love my husband and I would much rather watch Jeff and Jordan than I would Rachel and Brendan.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 6:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
I'm sure that neither couple is interested in the internet's opinion on their relationships but they did do the show so they need to understand that opinions will be formed.

Jeff and Jordan seem to me to be very secure in their relationship. Neither one of them ever acts jealous or personally insecure.

They are the kind of couple that you could invite on a group vacation and they would be able to be apart all day and do stuff in two different groups such as shopping and golfing and be fine with that.

Brendon and Rachel's relationship is still new and has been on TV from the beginning. Even the skype cheating incident was followed up with a YouTube apology. He is very passive aggressive towards her and she obviously has abandonment issues. Those kinds of couples hang on each other constantly.

They are the kind of couple that you would not invite on a group vacation because she would have to ask permission to go shopping and he would either forgo golf and tag along with the girls or they would do their own thing because they can not be apart.
This kind of couple also does not get a lot of invites for dinner except by the man's single friends or the womans family.

I like Jeff and Jordan hope they do good in the game. I hope they have the personal relationship that they want and I don't think that they owe their fans any proof that they have a good healthy relationship. As far as SuperFans that term translates to creepy stalker plan their wedding name their kids weird.

I can not stand Brendon and I hope that Rachel will leave him and go on with her life doing what makes her happy because he could care less about that.

Off Camera time means-They are together but none of the 4 feeds are on them for quite a while.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 6:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Caprica, PRECISELY! I am not as good with words as some people on here, you included! LOL