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Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 7:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
"What I felt was well edited was the odd couple Branchel, obviously a too outspoken and spontaneous Rachel being stifled by a sanctimonius Brandon... something creepy in that."

Yes. I agree 1000%


Now... I think that even though we KNOW what has happened, they do not give good coverage of WHY the outcome was the way it was. They seem too interested in making a flase plot than explaining WHY things end up the way that they do.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 8:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I don't think they even know how things ended up that way...

However, what surprised me the most in tonight's show was how condemning the outside people were of Kristen, especially her ex-boyfriend. I didn't think they would air such judgements against Kristen... which was completely in contrast with what Julie was saying that she played with "dignity", while the show portrayed her as the "cheater".

Another thing was the fact that Rachel laughed it off when Britney made fun of her with the hair extension and it was clear Brit was put out because she was expecting Rachel to be upset. So, I was right, Britney's making fun of thers is not because she's being funny but truly out of spite.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 8:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Oh yes. Spite it is. Spot on.

And the played with "dignity" ??? not so much. At least the producers called her on that by filming her BF.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 6:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
The whole show was cut well. The editor this week had a modicum of story telling experiance.

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 7:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
and yet I found myself wanting to fast forward, especially during the POV comp, I wasn't excited to see the old faces of JJ, didn't care at all, and to see the poor sportsmanship by all, not ontly Brendon, made me almost puke. Kathy may have been happy but not because she won anything, but for the fact that she beat Rachel and Britney was all glee because she was the best of them with all the power and couldn't wait to tell to Rachel's face that all the house want her out. It's easy for her to tell the honest truth when inside she's so happy it turned out this way.

Rachel demanding the apology was too ridiculous and sometimes even I don't understand her. Really strange. Brendon again can't read people and burned Andrew with his suggestions and now he's dragging Rachel down with him.

The show was kind to the audience in the sense that they avoided the really nasty bashing that went on since the nominations. Again, the show will always be deja vu because of the BB boards and live feeds. We know what's coming and there is no excitement watching something we know more about it than the tv show.

Especially the sab twist is such a joke that I don't even know why they had it.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 7:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Dalton Ross' take on last night's show

'Big Brother' Shocker" Rachel finds a way to become even more annoying!

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 7:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Back in the day I used to watch the show and wonder why they never showed what was really going on in the house. Now I watch the show and just think,meh.
The show is not good because the feeds are not good the feeds are not good because production is not good.
I keep hearing that ratings are up but I don't know anyone that did not watch BB last year that picked it up this year. I know a lot that DVR it and never watch though.

Bicbicz911
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08-19-2005

Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bicbicz911 a private message Print Post    
Enjoyed the article, Bon! It's almost painfully obvious that Dalton doesn't watch the feeds with any regularity. While I agree with everything he said about Rachel/Brendon, his gleeful support of Britney tells me that he hasn't been privy to her uncensored behavior.

Which leads me to my observation about the show presentation. It would be nearly impossible to show any version of the Brit/Ragan nastiness LF viewers have been seeing nightly. There has been no part of that that would be suitable for television broadcast. So there is no way for a show viewer to have a well-rounded opinion of those two.

Lafatme
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06-23-2005

Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lafatme a private message Print Post    
I have been saying for years that all shows should be "live." The non-eviction shows should have co-hosts and guest interviews with former players (experts) or family, etc. as well as clips of important happenings in the house. It should be something similar to SPORTSCENTER on ESPN. That way we get something new, even if it's just the analysis of events. C'mom AG, get with it !!! (I'm giving you this for free)

Stopthemadness
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07-15-2005

Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stopthemadness a private message Print Post    
I personally had to fast forward through most of the show. I don't really care about Rachael/Brendon but I don't want to watch a whole hour of everyone bashing them. One of them is leaving, their game is over let it go.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 12:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
It was painful to watch. I hate when they gang up on someone. When cruelty is tacitly permitted by the group. (How Kathy treated Rachel last night.) From what I understand, only watching the show, Kathy chummed up to Rachel big-time when Rachel was HOH, and now, she's hung her out to dry. What a peach. With friends like that...


Let the punishment fit the crime. EVERYONE lets the HOHs go to their head and powertrip. But it's only unnaceptable if someone you don't like (Rachel) does it. Hmmm.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 7:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
I watched and was good with the whole show this week.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Really? What about the part with Brendon's ex? That was incredibly tacky and low on BB's part.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 9:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I thought so too, Jimmer, so the chick went out with Brendon for a couple of years and didn't know he was the way he is? whatever, I thought it was rude of BB to Brendon and his family. Brendon sure can't pull off an Evil Dick moment. I was surprised he didn't just walk out behind Rachel.

Grendelsmom
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07-31-2005

Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 10:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grendelsmom a private message Print Post    
I thought he WAS going to walk out behind Rachel when he was standing in the doorway as she left.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Friday, August 13, 2010 - 6:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
He should have walked out behind her. It would have been a first!

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Friday, August 13, 2010 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
The contempt for Rachel was over the top IMHO. They didn't even make a move to say goodbye and then there's Britney's goodbye message. Ugh. Run Nick RUN.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 7:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Ah gosh... that have/have-not western comp was uninspired. The editing was amateurish.

In fact, the entire show was a bomb.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 8:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
I observed that:

BRENDON IS REALLY HOT IN A COWBOY HAT!

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 9:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
b.o.r.i.n.g. period.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 6:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Clearly one of the more experienced editors did this episode. It was good.

The comp was not only interesting, it was edited well.

I might have wanted it to be a little more extreme.

The general story telling was professional. The music choices were appropriate.

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 9:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I agree Tobor. I think this one was a well edited episode. You could tell there was so much more to show but not enough time to show it all, they had to limit to the most essential but every bit of it caught my attention.

I was especially grateful that they made only a very brief appearance by Jesse, they didn't drag that at all, well done.

What I was waiting however was to see how Matt personally told Britney to put Ragan on the block but it seemd on the show that Brit heard of it via someone else, while in reality she was really upset the moment Matt told her to put Ragan up, that was the ultimate betrayal in Brit's eyes but it wasn't shown on the tv show.

Also, it seemed to me that it was more the betrayal of the Brigade towards Matt than Matt playing two alliances. If one doesn't know what's really going on in the house it could be easily believed that the 3 guys turned on Matt all of a sudden, but they should have shown a bit of Matt's double play as well. Oh well, the live feeds surely tell the whole story.

One small thing that I could agree with Matt was that maybe the POV was rigged, in the sense that it could have been easily manipulated by the producers to suit their own storytelling. We will never have proof that the buzzer was indeed working properly or not.

All in all it was quite entertaining. "I'm good with it".

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 10:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
I'm thinking that when everyone clicked the buzzers at the same time, it locked out all of them, and then it was the first person who buzzed when no was else was trying at the same time. (Okay, that sounded a lot clearer in my head!)

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 10:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
But with buzzers there is always that frustration.. I've seen it on Jeopardy many times and contestants there have been quite frustrated.. apparently you can buzz in TOO early and then you are shut out. Hard to say if it was the case or not, but at least we could tell that Matt WAS trying for those punishments and not trying for the rewards.

I sure came out of the show tonight liking Hayden MUCH less. and he is still shouting in the DR after being told it wasn't liked.

The three brigs turned on Matt long ago and it had nothing to do with them liking Ragan.. pfft. They were threatened by Matt.

Meanwhile, regardless of Ragan or Brit or whatever, Matt seems to really believe in the Brigade long after the others have broken with it.

If they don't go for Brendon and waste time hitting Britt/Ragan, then I hope Brendon lives to put Enzo out.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Friday, August 27, 2010 - 5:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Double eviction was a good show. Moved right along.

Curtisahahahaha
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07-09-2001

Friday, August 27, 2010 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curtisahahahaha a private message Print Post    
But what happened to HOH contest?

Mysticlady
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07-05-2007

Friday, August 27, 2010 - 8:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mysticlady a private message Print Post    
Lane won the second HOH Competition last night.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 5:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Julie Chen's lipstick color is terrible. ?red wine?

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 8:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
I thought her entire outfit was horrible. Street Walker came to mind, when I saw it.

Tvclubber
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06-22-2008

Friday, September 03, 2010 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvclubber a private message Print Post    
<<I thought her entire outfit was horrible. Street Walker came to mind, when I saw it.>>

My hubby and I thought the same thing, except we called it trampy. *lol*

The dress would be wildly sexy and elegant if those silly arm holes weren't there.