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What555456
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06-14-2005

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 7:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
What I am looking forward to is the self-congratulations Hayden, Lane and Enzo will be doing in the DR after Thursdays show -- telling all of us how strong they are and how well they have played because Matt had the DPOV.

You know it is going to happen. It has happened every time Matt has accomplished something. They all pat themselves on the back, claiming Matt's success as their own when they have done nothing to earn whatever it is they are praising themselves for.

Has there ever been a group who has done so little, accomplished virtually nothing, depended entirely on only one member of their group for every step forward, but who are filled with such self-adoring bluster for their "successes" as these three?

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
"Has there ever been a group who has done so little, accomplished virtually nothing, depended entirely on only one member of their group for every step forward, but who are filled with such self-adoring bluster for their "successes" as these three?"

No one has exceeded these 3, they are the award winning 3 STOOGES.

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
The worst thing is if they actually end up winning the game... thus proving that BB can be won by .... 'doing nothing'.

I'm surprised at Enzo's overconfident attitude in the DR as if by inventing the Brigade entitles him to win the game.

Hayden seemed a bit more aggressive in the beginning but has since learned that 'to do nothing' like Enzo is the best way to stay in the game...

Lane is on the block and thinks he's got the votes to stay just because he was so smart to attach himself to Britney and Kathy wants Matt out, so he's like a happy camper even on the block.

Let's shake them up a bit and hope Matt is the first one to dump them.

Toolhound
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06-22-2007

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toolhound a private message Print Post    
I think Matt knows they are planning to vote him out. When he plays the DPOV Thursday I hope he puts up Enzo. I have heard enough of all 3 but Enzo is the worst.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Ragan and Britney are the two people that have helped push the Brigade furthest in the game.
The two are blinded by their hate for Rachel and Brendon.
They refuse to see that these four guys hanging out all the time means anything.
Ragan has been fooled by Matt but Brit has had no promises from Lane and yet she remains loyal.
No one in this house has really been playing except Matt,Rachel and Brendon(even if it is badly).
The fantasies that Ragan and Britney have about the F6 being a bunch of good friends playing a round of golf or frisbee on the beach are just pathetic.

The Brigade would never had made it this far any other season.

Annatopia
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07-19-2005

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 10:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Annatopia a private message Print Post    
if the brigade cruises to F4 this is going to be really boring. i certainly don't want to watch a bunch of single dudes hanging out (minus enzo of course but he is such a DUDE), talking crap about women, living like slobs, etc, for the final weeks of the show.

i have been sending matt some serious "dump your boys" vibes... he's *got* to be aware of what is going on. he needs to nominate one of the brigade and shake up the house.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Spunky, it's already been proven that BB can be won by "doing nothing." Dr. Will won Season 2 and did nothing (except lie) the whole season. He never won anything, relied on other people (first in his Chill Town alliance, then just whoever was left,) and he won. So, if someone from The Brigade makes it to the end without having won anything and ultimately wins, the season, it wouldn't be without precedent.

Knightpatti
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12-05-2001

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 3:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Knightpatti a private message Print Post    
Actually Will did do a lot. He was on the block more than anyone has ever been. Yet, he remained calm doing the whole process. He charmed the people around him, even though he told them over and over again that he was lying to them. He knew not to win competitions. This was before the POV,though. May have been different if they had existed. Plus he entertained us - the TV audience, because he was concerned about ratings.

Sillygirl
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08-16-2010

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 3:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sillygirl a private message Print Post    
I disagree about who all has 'played'. Brittney has won 2 POV's. What has brendon done, besides winning 1 HOH? Nothing - he rode coat tails of his true love

i still hope Brit, Ragan and Matt team up, and pull Lane into it. And I hope Matt puts up and then helps evict that lazy do nothing Enzo. How can anyone think he is a 'fan favorite' is beyond me.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 3:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Perhaps the key to these eliminate a competitor games (BB and Survivor) is not getting sucked into the power of the competition wins. Having those wins simply makes the target on your back large and the power which accompanies the win really throws your game off.

But rather the key is playing up the social aspect of interpersonal skills. Winning the competitions become a necessity when your social skills put you in a position where others want to vote you out.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 3:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Sillygirl, Brendon also won two POVs, one to save himself when he was on the block and the other to keep from being backdoored.

Reicam
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07-08-2010

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 4:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reicam a private message Print Post    
Brittney won 3 POV's, not 2.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 4:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
the prob. w/Matt useing the DPV & putting up Enzo or Hayden would be him pissing off Enzo & Hayden & probably loosing their jury votes. He could prob. suck in Lane & tell him he "knew" about Enz/Hay's side aliance w/Bren and this was the only way he could keep Lane from going home....sure hope Matt has the balls to pull something like this off & I hope Enzo goes. I would also like to see Matt realign himself w/Brit,Ragan & include Lane........this would be a strong 4 and could really dominate the rest of the game. Kathy is just - there - and they could easily tag her along until they had to get rid of her. Matt could also "keep" his little bro aliance kind of going by confiding in Lane that they need to make sure Hayden thinks they are still a strong 3. That way, the only bro he really craps off could be Enzo.....&.....who cares!

Sillygirl
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08-16-2010

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sillygirl a private message Print Post    
I wasn't sure if it was 2 or 3. Thanks for clarifying for me.

I can not stand the "jury vote" baloney they spew on the show. Play the game for today - not for later. This is why I think the public should vote for the winner. Enzo has been sucking up to basically everyone, not even playing the actual game, since he is convinced he is going to be F2 without having done anything but lay around.

I hope Lane shares with Matt about the decision of Enzo to get rid of him. I also think Lane has seen/heard Enzo and Hayden getting close and leaving Lane out in the dust.

Kathy is the most pathetic player...her lack of ability to do anything should scare the people who rely on her in her town to protect them.

Brendon is more focused on being with Rachel. Send him to the jury house next week to be with her. Remember, his love for her means more to him than winning.

I would bet, after she tries to soak more 'fame' from having a relationship with him (like Jeff and Jordan) she will realize Brendon isn't her true love LOL. Heck, I don't even think she loves him ... she was just using him in the game since no one else wanted to be near her. Send Enzo home this week and follow it up with Brendon next week, and maybe Kathy, if there is a double eviction.

Alliet
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07-11-2005

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 10:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alliet a private message Print Post    
This game is ALL about the jury vote since last week. That's the way BB is won.

Jbw
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08-14-2006

Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 2:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbw a private message Print Post    
We'll see how smart Matt really is by his choice later on tonight. If Matt is sensing that he's the 4th wheel on the Brigade bus, he's foolish to send Kathy to the jury tonight. Matt should think about increasing the odds that he or Ragan win the next HOH contest. Best outcome for Matt at the next HOH contest would be a Ragan win.

Only three of Matt's fellow players have proven so far that they can win HOH or POV when their neck's on the line. Those players are Brandon, Ragan and Brittney. Brandon and Ragan are exempt from being the replacement nominees tonight. That leaves Brittney as the biggest threat left to Matt winning the next HOH contest.

Based on prior results, odds are the next HOH winner will be Matt, Ragan or Brittney, not Kathy, Lane, Enzo or Hayden. Kathy is not only weak in all competitions, she's also now has a huge target on her back as the suspected saboteur. It would be a dumb move on Matt's part to put Kathy up as his replacement later tonight. Let someone else waste their power getting out a weak player like Kathy. Now's the time to get a strong HOH/POV player out of the game. Hayden, Enzo and Lane have been all talk and no action in the HOH contests. Since last Thursday was a physical contest, this week should be a mental or endurance contest. Either of those two types should favor Matt, Ragan or Brittney.

Say Matt gets Kathy out tonight and Brittney wins the HOH contest. Matt just might be going up on the block with Brandon next week. Brittney's closer with Ragan so she's more likely to keep Ragan off the block if she wins HOH. Lane will do his best to convince Brit to put up Matt rather than Enzo or Hayden. If than happens and Brandon wins next week's POV, Matt will be joining Kathy & Rachel in the jury house 7 days from now.

Matt's best move tonight should be putting up Brittney as his replacement nominee and evicting her. Then, if he gets the chance, throw the HOH win to Ragan if they're the last two left in the contest.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 6:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Interesting analysis, jbw. Makes a lot of sense.

Vickilynn
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07-29-2010

Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vickilynn a private message Print Post    
Matt really needs to make a bold move tonight, puttin up Kathy would be a waste, What I would love to see him do is throw Enzo or Hayden on the block, Yes it would be risky because of Jury votes but if you don't make it to the end because your own alliance is throwin comps and plottin against you, jury votes won't matter. Best case tonight is to see Enzo walk out the door, and as he said about Matt gettin upset, He'll get over it....

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
I dont see Matt putting up Kathy as a waste - I can see it a bold move to put up anyone else - bold as in foolish - as others have stated this is a game to be won by Jury Votes.

Would've been a much more interesting week if it was Enzo and Lane on the block - talk about paranoia - everyone would be scrambling -

but its Matt, the calm "brains" of the Brigade. And as such, he does know that he is the 4th member, that's why he is not scrambling and upset that the boys are going to keep Lane - well that and the DPOV!! lol

By getting rid of Kathy - he eliminates a floater - the whole house is using Kathy - and quite frankly she cant take the house anymore - she has been crying, cleaning and sleeping too much - altho after last night it seems she made a choice to stay with the Brendon Athletic Alliance, and since Brendon is helping her she has a more relaxed attitude (as opposed to yelling at people for leaving her with him!)

I think the house has shifted to 2 sides - but with enzo and Haydon floating UTR for both sides... its working for Matt.. for now...

His agenda - getting rid of Brendon can only be accomplished one comp at a time - and he does get ready for the comps... it will be a fast win for HOH...

Vickilynn
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07-29-2010

Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 7:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vickilynn a private message Print Post    
You are so right Reader, I hadn't thought of it like that. I guess I was just wishful thinkin, wantin to see the look of shock on all their faces.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Except it looks as if Matt, Rag & Brit are tight right now, Jbw.
If Matt gets rid of Kathy tonight, he might still have the respect of both his alliances: The above Trio AND the BrOgade.

Unless the Bros really want to turn their backs on Matt, everyone in the House still has a common enemy: Brendon. This is the week B could not go for HOH either. B will have to rely on getting that pov to stay alive.

So once again, some how the lazyazz trio are going to decide the game for both sides. I've been calling Enzo & Lane out since the beginning. But I do realize how that's a method of game-play. They're keeping blood off their hands for one very important fact. Should Enzo actually ends up in F2 with Matt, Brenchel, Kathy and his bros might still give him winning votes! None of them will care about how he was carried and never won anything in the game.

I personally wish Matt will get rid of Enzo tonight. :-) :-) :-) Remembering the cap where Matt gave Enzo the HORNS lol, lol, .....

Veganking
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07-24-2009

Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 8:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Veganking a private message Print Post    
Did you see them in the veto competition? They had no clue how to put a puzzle together. And then Kathy can't even stand on top of the rotating wheel. BB sure picked people who can't compete very well.

Sillygirl
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08-16-2010

Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sillygirl a private message Print Post    
Has Kathy ever NOT been been the first out of a competition?

And I realize it is a game ... my point is stop playing FOR the jury and having them like you. Evil Dick, a disgusting human, won and NO ONE liked him. But he PLAYED the game, didn't just skate through like many of these players... *cough* Enzo *cough* Kthy *cough* Lane *cough*

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 3:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
Brit gets tight where ever she sees the opportunity. She is a grade-A asskicker (she has Ragan totally fooled). She's all butter & sugar in their face and snarky & bitching behind their back (including Ragan). They *think* she is in an alliance with Matt/Ragan, but it's only b/c of the "have-nots". Next week, watch, she'll be in tight based on who has the HoH.


What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 5:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Konamouse -- I agree with your assessment of Britney. Add her ability to cozy up to whomever she needs to with her ability to win some competitions and what seems to be an ability to read the house and the people in it, and I think she stands a good chance of being in the F3 or F2.

I don't really like her or dislike her, but I think she is playing a good game.