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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Monday, September 06, 2010 - 5:33 pm
Merrysea: I don't know, I think talking about going to Africa and jabbing babies with AIDS-infected needles is pretty bad. And then laughing about it makes it despicable. Indeed, as a gay man, I cannot imagine a gay man making a joke out of AIDS -- except perhaps as gallows humor. I lost so many close friends during the 1980's and 1990's. 1-2 funerals a month is just too much, especially when with each one, the attendance is lower because one of those attending the last funeral is the one who is being mourned at this funeral.
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Nala63
Member
09-20-2005
| Monday, September 06, 2010 - 5:37 pm
chelsia was one of the worst and look where she is,aybe brit and ragan are hoping for a job on bb. there is no one on this years bb that i would care to follow there future with the exception of brendon. i hope he really does become a researcher and brings cures for some illnesses.
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Monday, September 06, 2010 - 7:43 pm
Geez, talking about all these horrible things that these people say is making me wonder why I watch the show lol.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Monday, September 06, 2010 - 9:06 pm
Disgusting and the reason I loathe Ragan and Britney. They also said they'd abort R/B's baby if she was pregnant all the while laughing their tiny minded heads off. Why?
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Just_gail
Member
08-25-2007
| Monday, September 06, 2010 - 9:54 pm
Nala63, or anyone, please refresh my memory. Where is Chelsia now?
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Monday, September 06, 2010 - 10:00 pm
Chelsia lives in seatle and works for Real Player. She does weekly shows during BB. She does a very nice job and has made plenty of amends since her season. The lady who wrote the article needs to find a place of forgiveness somewhere. Many of the houseguests have and they lived it.
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Grendelsmom
Member
07-31-2005
| Monday, September 06, 2010 - 11:33 pm
I don't think any of them has done anything for which they can't be forgiven, especially by those whom they wronged. For some reason, Ragan and Brit stand out to me as being some of the worst bashers, on par with Chelsia and Maggie and Co. Yes, it always happens, but they were some of the worst. That's got to mean something. I think Brit was somewhat envious of all the attention Rachel got, and I think Ragan was envious of their relationship. You don't have to want to BE someone to be envious of something he or she has.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, September 06, 2010 - 11:50 pm
Without reading the thread and not being much interested in opinion articles, just to anwer the question in the thread title. No. They started out being friends with Rachel and then Rachel and Brendon were on the block and from what has been said they weren't even that "together" and not claiming to be in love, etc., at the point they were put on the block but then they got closer and became sort of obnoxious,then Rachel won HOH and it went to their heads. And Rachel's a very polarizing person. But no, what was there to be jealous of? Annie, yes, she seemed to feel that Brendon had wanted to hook up with her and then switched to Rachel, and she sounded jealous.
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 12:46 am
JMO. Brendon and Rachel came in with the same stragey....hook up with someone. Be the showmance. It turned the viewers stomachs and it was only worse for those in the house. Envy? What is there to envy when the whole thing is fake? They made fun of insincere people trying to be actors. We could see it was fake, so could other people in the house see it was fake. Bashing others always happens. At least they made it into a talk show. Don't forget that Hayden was a part of it from the begininng. Others had 'guest' apperances. Was there envy there? Ragan's last few days were sad. He did say some really horrible things, but I think it was for shock value. OTOH, my mind could never have come up with the things he said.
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 7:12 am
I think that Britney thought that Rachel was trashy. She and Monet were commenting about house trashing they thought Rachel was from the beginning. Ragan on the other hand professed to be a friend of Rachels the first week. During the second week when she was HOH he firmly planted his head up her butt and tried to influence her nominations. He was very pissed off about Kathy spending 24 hours a day in the HOH. When Britney won the Veto and Matt went up as a replacement they then had the big house meeting and Matt drew the line in the sand and Ragan picked his side. Ragan's hatred of Rachel started then and snowballed right up until he was named the new Saboteur at which time Big Brother started feeding him hints that America was not that fond of Rachel. Ragan then became an absolute terror and spewed venom when ever he could. I think Ragan fell into a Big Brother trap. Envy....No
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Bubba
Member
07-29-2005
| Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 7:28 am
Envy...No.....AG...Yes
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 7:36 am
Capricia.. your timeline is true... let me try a different spin Ragan went into the house open minded and saw Rachel as knowledgeable about the game. He thought he should befriend her so that he would know her strategy and stay on the right side of her game. During the second week he made sure to work the HOH so as to influence her nominations, like any good BB player should. When Rachel had the big house meeting, he realized that she was a sinking ship with very poor game strategy. He recognized that calling everyone together the way she did put a huge target on her back and she was no longer someone he needed to influence and control... her days were numbered. Rachel's overbearing personality got on Ragan's very last nerve and he wasn't going to let her continually try to demean and taunt him... finally she intentionally brings fresh baked cookies to the guy on Slop and he tells her that she ain't all that she thinks she is... Envy ... no Disgust... yes!
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Lostfan
Member
03-10-2010
| Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 7:56 am
If anyone was ENVIOUS of anyone it was Rachel who envied all the pretty girls ... she WANTED to have the only showmance ... she wanted to be the prettiest and most liked by america and she WANTED to be the only girl at the end ... but in the end, her outrageous mean personality bit her in her own azz ....
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 8:39 am
I really can not give Ragan any credit for making any strategic moves. In my opinion he played a far more emotional game than anyone else in the house. Many of his actions were in response to someone else. His friendship with Kristen came out of the blue. He hated Rachel for getting Kristen out. Rachel was not the only one wondering when Ragan and Kristen became besties. Rachel was very confused as to why her "friend" was mad at her for protecting herself. When she returned to the house as a jury member he verbally jumped on her and spewed all the hatefull things that he had been storing up since she left. Rachel is childish and her cookie dig was just stupid but Ragan's reaction was horrible and there is nothing that he could ever say that can excuse the things he has said. I guess that after the show is over he will do what all past Big Brother spewers of hate have done. Deny,deny,deny. Ragan,Britney and Rachel may have been fans of the show but they are ignorant about the live feeds.Just like the friendship that they like to talk about they foolishly didn't think about who was listening when they were talking. Ragan loved to mock his hero Jerry. Jerry said some down right ugly things about the women in the house and when asked about them after the show ended he claimed to have no knowledge of the conversations. Good luck with following in your hero's footsteps Ragan.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 8:59 am
If one reads any of Ragan's writings which can be linked from his college webpage, one sees a very angry man. His anger at the world clearly came out in the house this summer. And yes, I think he was envious of her. I think he wanted to have with Matt what she had with Brenden. Not just the limelight of the showmance making him the 'star", but also the intimacy of the relationship. He could not have that, so he turned on her and her man.
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