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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 6:52 am
Everyone here seems to think the Brigade is sweeping this season. I don't see it. Matt has already gone against his cohorts desires when he was HoH and has made it very clear that he will jettison them again whenever he needs to and is likely to build another alliance under their noses if it suits him. The rest of them sit around and do nothing. Rachel beats them hands-down for HoH in a week they should have won it. They can't even win a darn POV to get their buddy off the block. Nope, I do not see their power. Just a lot of bluster.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 6:57 am
To the extent that they have laid back and let the others eat each other alive without drawing unnecessary attention to themselves or their alliance, I'd say they are playing better games than the rest of the house. I'm not sure any of them are going to know what to do when they are forced into the spotlight, though. The girls are scrappy when under pressure, I'm not sure who of the guys might have that quality. I guess what I'm saying is, the Brigade hasn't really been tested, but they're doing fine so far.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 7:02 am
Yes, they're strong. Exactly because of Matt's screw up and Hayden's protection of Kristen no one would ever think those 4 are together. They all think Enzo and Lane are definitely together, but never, never believe that Matt and Hayden are with them. It's no surprise then that Branchel can't see that strong alliance, by now it should have been evident, but nope. Not only, they're blind, Branchel are like 'the blind leading the blind', they can't see what's going on around them because they're always together and the few moments with the others they don't observe anything else but what's in front of their nose, either each other's face or their food. I'm surprised Britney hasn't uncovered that alliance. She suspects they're close but doesn't know the alliance has been going on since the start. Worst of all is Kristen, so close to Hayden and yet so unaware that he's campaigning to save the Brigade and not her.
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 7:14 am
Their strength is in their voting block, imo. Whether they also have the luck/skill to win a comp when they really need it (if they ever really need it, given the targets on others) is a question. When a couple more HG go, people (Matt especially) may start thinking who's better to sit next to...
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 7:17 am
It's strong in that it's never been tested yet. Enzo probably is the one who trusts the group as a whole the most, so he hasn't made any major side deals- which is probably going to bite him eventually. I think Matt will pull a Judas move at some point- he likely believes he's 4th in the totem pole, and he's in it to win it. They all won't make the final four together- there are too many variables for that to happen- but I can see at least one of them in the final 2. In that case, so long as they didn't make any enemies of the other three when they were eliminated, they probably win with those three voting as a block. If 2 of them are in the final, it gets interesting.
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Yankinaustralia
Member
07-30-2010
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 7:17 am
I agree with said posts. I think its incredible that there are 4 guys hiding a secret so well. This season has been so boring because that alliance is so air tight, its made no room for typical half of the house against another half of the house typical scenario of previous seasons. Is this strong of an alliance making the season boring? yes. But its astounding when 4 people can keep a secret this long in the BB house
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 7:28 am
Well it's not tight enough that they're not playing the angles, like Lane,Matt, and Hayden are- the Brigade is a primary alliance, but you need a backup alliance JIC...
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 7:34 am
I think the Brigade is amazingly strong. This is the first major four person alliance that has managed to keep their alliance low key (LOL – remember the four horsemen). Plus they have sub-alliances. As several people mentioned, they haven't been tested yet and we'll see what happens but the fact that they haven't been tested is also an indication of their success.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 7:36 am
They're not air-tight. They're staying with each other for the numbers. Math is not my strong suit, but I think the B4 only need this voting block till F8. (Right, Wilson??) After that they could start to EX one of their own or not, depending on where HOH lands. I hate it that these Bros will mostly slide by and get to toot as if they were one of the greatest alliance BB has ever seen. But I am hoping for a wonderful explosion some time in the near future. Too bad Hayden already showed his color. But the game is not deep enough yet, can't really blame him for dumping Kris if it comes down to it. But I have high hopes on Matt putting out bros like trash. That would be worth my investment of time here.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 7:38 am
The big thing is after next week- if all 4 of them survive, so long as two of them aren't on the block together, they can control the vote completely (next week they can force a tie at 3-3 if one of them is on the block and none of the 4 are HOH)- still, I think Matt is the one who's going to try something eventually.
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Leroy17
Member
08-01-2010
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 8:01 am
The great weakness of small alliances in BB is that anytime a member is HOH or on the block, their number of votes is inadequate to control things. It seems to me that in the early game, the minimum required size would be 6 so that 2 could be on the block and still have a solid 4 votes. The Brigade has sort of done this by individual members developing a single side alliance: Matt/Ragan, Hayden/Kristen, Lane/Britney. Of course they have to be very careful in pushing their ally to vote a particular way to keep the main 4 a secret.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 8:26 am
Right now it appears that they are strong as an alliance; it has yet to be seen if they are individually capable of winning competitions when it counts. They have done a great job of keeping their alliance a secret and working with others in the house to not make themselves targets (had it not been for Kristen, Hayden would not be on the block this week). I'm just happy they're not out there acting like the Four Horsemen!
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 8:34 am
I guess what strikes me is that they are not controlling the game. They are all defense, no offense. To me, a strong alliance is both. It attacks and it protects. The brigade seems incapable of attacking and is simply a reactive force, not a proactive force. Simply having a few people reacting to events who vote together when they need to protect each other does not a strong alliance make, in my opinion.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 8:56 am
That is right, What. That's why I will never consider them a great anything. Even if this season ends up with 2 of them Bros in the F2, I will always think of them as the dumb luck alliance.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 9:05 am
But the Brigade players were proactive. They formed their alliance very early, they formed sub-alliances early and they have managed to keep it low key. After the initial proactive step of setting up alliances, the key to successful play is to be reactive and defensive. Although they are the most powerful group in the house, they are still small. Where most early alliances fail is that they go on the offensive too quickly and end up becoming a target for the non-aligned players in the house. The Four Horsemen were big, bold, winning, in your face kind of competitors and immediately became a target. The Brigade is a prime example of how to run an early small alliance effectively by assuming a quiet defensive strategy (LOL - though they may have lucked into it by being incompetent at winning).
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 9:27 am
As long as you can have other people getting the blood on their hands AND picking each other off, you are playing the game correctly, as far as I am concerned.
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Actor1day
Member
07-30-2010
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 9:29 am
When it comes to numbers hands down the brigade is leading the house they have four votes plus ragen who is carryed over by matt and Kristen who votes with Hayden for a tottaly of 6 votes . Its because of this the last couple of evictions have been almost unanimous. Even with one of them being H.O.H they still pull 5 votes. Plus for veto competitions they have 6 chances to get pulled from the bag to help change nominations. When it comes to competions in the house the brigade sucks. As much as I hate Brenchel, in competions they are the front runners together winning 2 H.O.Hs (Rachel) and 2 Veto's (Brendan) and its only week four meaning every week so far Brenchel is winning something
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 10:11 am
I think they are the strong silent alliance. Kudos to them for keeping it so quiet.
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Emory
Member
06-03-2010
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 12:10 pm
Yes I think that they are. They are the largest group that is playing together.
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Delilah
Member
07-08-2005
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 2:56 pm
Hayden had a great idea that I saw him articulate on BBAD the other night ... he told Lane that if/when Krsiten is voted out, he would go to Brenchel and play the "I have no one left" card and see if he could get in good with them for information /strategy purposes. I thought that was very thoughtful way to keep this alliance quiet ... plus, i really like the idea they had for "sub alliances" to cover the true alliance. I have to admit, I'm kind of pulling for them. I don't really know why, though! HA!
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Oregonguy
Member
02-12-2006
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 3:11 pm
1. have won 2 out of 4 hoh's 2. control the evictions with their numbers 3. all except enzo have side alliances to gather info from all sides of the house. 4. rachel (????) she is such a polarizing figure in the house that all attention is focused on getting her out (thus eyes off the brigade) and when she is HOH she has focused her evictions on her CATFIGHTS with monet and kristen.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 4:36 pm
Too bad Brit didn't use the pov. All it needs for the BrOgade to crumble is for Rach to put Matt up there with Hayden. (R&B has been uncomfortable with Matt for a while now.) Then I will like to read how great you all think the B4 are. p..... I'll Never .... !
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 5:04 pm
the "brigade" is strong! simply, they know when to keep their mouths shut!
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 6:45 pm
I think they have dumblucked their way through so far. The only thing of tangible note they have done is not reveal themselves. If they had done that, I believe they have none of the skills or critical thinking necessary to have protected themselves. So not getting identified is the one and only saving grace, but it has carried them this far, and might carry them far enough now that one of them trips and falls head over heels across the finish line.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Monday, August 02, 2010 - 7:35 pm
Their not strong, they're lucky so far. The others have not focused on them and are dumb not to obseve 4 guys who get along. When there is NO testerone between 4 guys in the house and all 4 get along, someone with ANY knowlege of the game should have their antenna's up. Ragan is not in an alliance with Matt, he's his sounding board. Lane? Who? Enzo has who?...Britt sometimes? Hayden, they have questions about, but their radar never goes off. They need to do some spying, because anyone with an iota of knowlege about the game, should know that 4 guys are NOT friends but in an alliance. Enzo is a scaredy cat unless he is involved with someone else in a comp. Now Enzo wants them to throw the comp towards Britt. I hope, I hope, I hope.
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