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Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Monday, August 02, 2010 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
Brit is "friends" with both of those "floaters", Lane & Enzo.

IMO...........I think the most secret alliance is.........Brit/Ragan!

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I think their advantage is that they decided to lock in their alliance very early in the game and so any side-alliance that comes after that is just icing on the cake for them.

Certainly, a lot of luck is also a big factor. I mean, here we have Lane protected by Britney, Enzo charmed by Brandon, Hayden has the majority of the house votes to stay, and Matt has the added advantage of support from the house after his lie about his wife's illness. They will control the votes next week with Rachel leaving the house. I mean, they're invincible.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
So far so good for the brigade. They really haven't had to do too much. Things have fallen in their favor. If they can hold on intact for a few more weeks they should end up with 2 of them as the f2.

Sometimes all you have to do is keep the target on others to keep your alliance safe and that's what they've done.

I wish Brit would have been part of the brigade because I have really started to like her once Monet left. She might be brought aboard is one of the brigade gets the ax.

I see them going to the end...unless B&R sweep all the HOH's which is a possibility.

Actor1day
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07-30-2010

Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 1:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Actor1day a private message Print Post    
The brigade is not strong the house is full of idiots. Common sense says if I see two hamsters arounds each alot they have an alliance. Every time I watch big broter some brigade member is with another Brigade memember there not awesome there lucky to be put in the house with the worst players in big brother history. P.S. Hayden's H.O.H doesn't count they handed it to him because every one knew don't win H.O.H the first weeek . I would love to see what happens when the brigade has to step up and fight to win something. Oh wait they did the veto last week which they sucked at if I remember correct Matt and lane were the first one's out.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 2:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
The fact that The Brigade has not been found out makes them enormously powerful at the moment. Hayden's win doesn't count as The Brigade didn't really exist then, and the other HGs basically "gave" it to him. They don't seem to be very good at comps so far, but all they have to do is remain hidden and surreptitiously save their members if they end up on the block (like this week) and eventually they'll have the numbers to make it tough to win any comp against them. 4 people all playing together is tough enough to beat, let alone with the rest of the house clueless as to them playing as a team.

Of course, all of this could change should Matt jump ship, or they get found out.

I've long held that the key to controlling Big Brother and Survivor is having 5 people together. The Brigade nearly had that had they (a) brought Kristen into the fold and kept her in check, and (b) Kristen hadn't been stupid and ticked off the HOH and then refused the apology.

While having all 5 know about each other and working together can be good, a great 5 person alliance starts with a "solid secret 2." Each of the 2 makes a "side alliance" with one other person for "Final 2." Then the solid 2 make a "Final 3" alliance together with a 5th person but do it so that the other person in the "secret 2" appears to be the 3rd member of that alliance (thereby keeping the "solid 2" a secret.)

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I don't think most of the brigade except Matt tired to win HOH. It's never a great idea to win hoh or other comps early on especially if none of the brigade was on anyones radar. They are the strongest group so far.

Veganking
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07-24-2009

Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 3:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Veganking a private message Print Post    
Enzo said to Matt that the Brigade will out themselves in a couple of weeks. At that point there will be 8 people left in the house, so they better step up and win something if they expect to all stay in the house. Then we'll see how strong they are.

Calimom3
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07-12-2007

Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calimom3 a private message Print Post    
At worst, if they ALL are evicted, it will be The Brigade's decision as to who wins BB12...that's kinda powerful!

Hollymom
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04-04-2008

Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 4:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hollymom a private message Print Post    
What I would like to see is for the vote be 4 to 3 with Kristen staying. Can you imagine how shocked Brenden/Rachel would be. Also the loss of one of the Brigade crew. Then let this show truly begin.

Veganking
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07-24-2009

Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 6:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Veganking a private message Print Post    
Holly, that will only happen if Brenden votes for Kristen to stay along with Kathy, Britney, and Ragan. The other three (Enzo, Lane, Matt) are Brigade members who will vote to keep Hayden.

Hollymom
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04-04-2008

Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hollymom a private message Print Post    
I doubt it would ever happen either but it sure would be good for the game.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
The Brigade is not the Friendship.They probably will control the jury votes but they are not going to vote for a fellow Brigador just because they are in the Brigade.
That is the total sum of their power.
None of them are playing BB except Matt.

If Ragan was not so busy comaparing Season 12 to every other past season he may very well figure out that the guys minus him and Brendon are working together.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
I have been saying since Britney did not use the Veto that I hoped things would flip and that Hayden would leave and Kristen stay. If only to see the looks on everyone's faces when Julie announces: "By a vote of 4-3, Kristen you are safe, Hayden you have been evicted from the Big Brother House!" Now those words would be MUSIC to my ears cause it would then be GAME AWWWWWWWWNN! LOL

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Ragan has mentioned a few times that the guys are working together because he got hints from the DR and apparently he got called out by BB "do not talk about your DR sessions". But then it seems when Kristen was telling him that Hayden is not campaigning to any of the guys and that they're together it seems he replied "I don't think so". Unless Ragan doesn't want Kristen to run to Hayden and tell him that he said he knows the guys are in alliance, he'll be the Brigade's target and so Ragan did not confirm Kristen's suspicions.

The vote should be revealing to the others that the guys are together, when Kristen only gets Kathy's vote, or maybe not even hers.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 2:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
How is the voting going to reveal the Brigade when all of the votes thus far have been solid house block votes?

Actor1day
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07-30-2010

Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 3:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Actor1day a private message Print Post    
the fact its been solid blocks would make me notice something was up. anytime her person gets no votes its pretty obvious there is an big alliance somewhere in the house

Tvclubber
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06-22-2008

Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 5:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvclubber a private message Print Post    
<<The vote should be revealing to the others that the guys are together, when Kristen only gets Kathy's vote, or maybe not even hers.>>

With previous hamsters, yes, this could be the light-bulb moment. This group is likely to think it's easier to grant Rachel's wish, so be it. They are so blind when it comes to the Brigade, even when the proverbial flag is in plain sight on the flagpole.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 8:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
The problem with the Brigade is that IF they are the last two standing they have to get votes from others.

That means that 2 of the brigade in the jury house will have to decide between the remaining 2.

Depends on the 3rd member out and who pushes him out.

Are they powerful?...don't know, but at least one of them has to think about who is sitting next to them IF they want the win.

This group is so dense because nobody is thinking beyond their nose.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 10:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
They seem to be terrified, along with Ragan, of putting up B/R .. because one would still be in the house. well boys, isn't that better than two still being in the house?

So afraid of 4 of them having to win two comps in a row, they seem to want to throw the first one completely.

And Enzo.. you are running out of people you feel safe targetting (Kathy).

The way they are acting, I hope Britney outlasts and outsmarts them all.

I still don't want Rachel or Brendon to win.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 8:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
As long as they have Matt to keep them safe they'll control the votes from now on. Brandon and Rachel cannot vote. Ragan and Kathy and Britney will all vote with the other 3 remaining Brigade at least until both Bran and Rach are out. Then Britney and Kathy and Ragan better team up or they're done too.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 10:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
So, who goes up once either Brenden or Rachel wins the POV? Which one of them undoubtedly will do since we are about to simply replay two weeks ago when Matt had the most boring week as HoH in all of BB history.

Leroy17
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08-01-2010

Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 11:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Leroy17 a private message Print Post    
I never have understood why so many players think the HOH has the right to dictate who goes out. The only power they have is to make the nominations. Since they can't be HOH the following week they are not even a serious threat if their wishes are ignored. But year after year, and this year in particular, everybody seems to believe it would be dangerous to think for themselves. The votes are secret, so no one can ever be sure who voted for who. What's the problem?

If the "floaters" had made personal choices in their own best interest this year, the existence of an alliance would probably have been obvious by now.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Friday, August 06, 2010 - 4:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
ITA Leroy and I'm surprised that so many of the houseguests have said those words this season. I don't recall another season where "voting with the HOH" was a reoccurring reason for folks to use to explain how they were voting.

Sooooo if the Brigade is really that strong why do they vote with the HOH? It's a smokescreen. They are all floaters in the Brigade but Matt and Hayden. Okay so Enzo and Lane are the floaters!!

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Friday, August 06, 2010 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
It's all about controlling the votes and even though they don't need to convince the others to vote as they want, since everyone wants Rachel out, they're just biding their time when their votes will count and for about two more weeks they won't have to reveal their alliance. After Rachel leaves, they'll get Brandon on board to do their dirty work until it's time to get rid of him too.

They could go to F4 intact.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Friday, August 06, 2010 - 10:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
Unlikely but possible Spunky- every HOH and POV would have to go their way, especially at F5.