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Darryl
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09-04-2010

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darryl a private message Print Post    
"It wasn't a new story to Hayden or Brit. It is a very old story. Urban legends are most effective when told in the first person."

...

The reason this story is old news to Britney and Hayden is because this is the second time he told them about the 8 seconds game. The first time he talked about it was on Aug 30 at 11pm. Britney, Enzo and Hayden were all at the hot tub telling drunk stories when Lane first mentions the 8 seconds game. He talks about his friends doing it to a girl two years ago in Steamboat.

IA, Lexie_girl. An urban legend is an unverifiable story told second or third or fourth hand. "I have a friend who's second cousin twice removed knew this guy who bought a dog in Mexico and..."

ETA: Looking back at Britney's reaction the first time she heard about it, she does seem bothered by it.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 12:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
"I have a friend who's second cousin twice removed knew this guy who bought a dog in Mexico and... he took a picture of the Lochness Monster and Big Foot." <<---- That is an Urban Legend

Not some guy sitting around telling a story about something he did two months ago or last year.

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 12:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
How it was told doesn't change the fact that Toolhound heard it 45 - 50 years ago and I heard it 30 some years ago. It is an old story, with many variations. There is a link upthread.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 1:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Emample of an Urban Legend


On the way to Canton, driving on Michigan Avenue, on Thursday morning, I saw an infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.

I did not stop even though I had all kinds of thoughts running through my head. When I got to my destination, I called the Canton PD and they were going to check it out. This is what I was told:

Gangs and thieves are plotting different ways to get a person to stop their vehicle.

There is an initiation scenario reported by the local police department that gangs are placing a car seat by the road with a fake baby in it, waiting for a woman to stop and check on the baby. The location of the car seat is usually beside a wooded or grassy area, and when the person stops to check, they are then dragged into the woods, beaten, raped and usually left for dead.

DO NOT STOP
Dial 911 and report what you saw.


I heard this earlier this summer and believed it right up until I found this a few minutes ago.

Nerovh
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06-12-2005

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 1:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Even if it does qualify as an "urban legend", that doesn't make it any less of a nasty stunt that has very likely been pulled in reality more than once. I don't see how this could ever be remotely funny and why the heck would a girl deserve this, even if she was using poor judgement in sleeping with somebody she barely knows? I can understand debating whether or not Lane had really done this or was just running his mouth, but I don't see how there is any question about this being a horrible thing to do to somebody.

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 1:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
Heard that one at least 10 years ago.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 1:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
Maybe I missed it, but there was nothing in the link that said it was an urban legend (the "Urban" in Urban Dictionary doesn't mean "urban legend"). Considering some people here think it's funny, it's not rape, and there's nothing wrong with it, it's very plausible that some people (including Lane) have actually done it.

Jenjackso
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02-10-2009

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jenjackso a private message Print Post    
Chy, the way you feel about your girls is the way that I feel about my sons. I can't believe how forward and brash teen girls are and how I basically have to beat them off of my oldest when we go somewhere (if he wants them to go away). They are really crazy and very, very sexual.

If there is not a police record for Lane raping someone then I would not assume that he has raped someone until you verify if it was a real story or what I have come to believe is a "Lane" story.

I've hung around a lot of men and they basically are pigs but I still love them. Even my best husband in the world becomes a complete idiot when the half-dressed beautiful woman walks by and I find it so funny to watch how they operate. I'm glad that men are different. They tell stories and talk big and truly only one thing, in the entire world, ultimately matters to them.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 2:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Of course Lane has done it. The only question in my mind is how often has he done it.

And of course he abuses his dog.

The fact that he tells these stories as if they are meaningless, which they are to him, and otherwise seems like just a big ol' goofball is why people doubt he has done these things. But being a big ol' goofball hardly means he does not cause pain to his dog or rape women.

My guess is he sees no contradiction between loving his dog and abusing it because he does not see inflicting pain on the dog as abuse. It is just a different way to play with the dog in his mind.

And he probably does not see any contradiction between respecting women he knows and raping those who are just sex objects to him when he is drunk, because it is just a different way of relating to women depending on the circumstances. He will simply claim the ones he treats with respect act one way and the ones he raped wanted to have sex anyway so, in his mind, it can't be rape just because they change their mind once the action starts. It's the old Madonna/Prostitute syndrome many men have in their dealing with women.

(BTW, I have yet to find the 8 second game in any listing of urban legends. It is, however, a well known fraternity "prank" and is apparently and unfortunately not all that uncommon).

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 2:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
I am just amazed at how many people can KNOW someone did or is guilty of doing something without even having facts. WOW

What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 2:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Are you equally amazed at the number of those who can KNOW someone did not or is not guilty of something -- even though he says he is -- without even knowing the facts?

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 2:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
This link was posted above... I guess some may have missed it:

Urban dictionary: Rodeo

What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 2:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
That's not an urban legend site. That is simply a definition of the term some use for Lane's activities.

There are lots of terms in the urban dictionary which are simply slang for something that is real.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 2:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Well it does show that Lane didn't make this activity up... Now as I listened to him tell the story I didn't get the impression this was an activity he participated in.

As many have heard this tale told many years ago it has taken on modern folklore believed by some to be true.

I see/hear nothing to suggest that Lane engages in or condones such activity

Saguaro
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06-21-2005

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saguaro a private message Print Post    
Most urban legends are told as if it happened to the person or someone they knew. That's how they become urban legends because people believe them.

When middle school kids are having sex in front of each other at parties, as they are these days. Things that should be shocking (if this story were true) are becoming far less shocking to today's kids.

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 2:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jezzedout a private message Print Post    
Interesting how polarized this thread has become.

I personally am going to come down on the side of waiting for more information. Lane presents as being a bit immature in general, even more so regarding women and relationships. I've known sweet guys who have said the most idiotic things - goodness knows what possesses them. They can be the most socially inept creatures.

I think Lane may actually be attracted to Brit, but because of her fiance he's unable to act on it. Pent up in a house all this time I think he's just resorted to saying stupid things.

So I'm going to withhold judgment until Lane has a chance to explain himself in the post game interviews.

Ark
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07-10-2001

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 3:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ark a private message Print Post    
I'm going to withhold judgement until Lane has a chance to explain himself in the post game interviews.

What a novel idea!!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 6:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I'm sure his "explanations" will be along the lines of:
"The dog liked it..." and "she asked for it..."

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
If someone is going to claim they did something, no one should be surprised if people believe them.

Bbnut
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06-12-2006

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 7:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnut a private message Print Post    
I voted for Kathy

Bbnut
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06-12-2006

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Bbnut
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06-12-2006

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 8:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnut a private message Print Post    
If you believe that...I've got news for you.

Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lycanthrope a private message Print Post    
I've just spent over an hour reading every post in this thread.

If you guys think the stories that Lane has told are unique or even the worst you've heard, then you haven't heard anything. I've heard many versions of the "8 second" game. I've never participated in anything remotely like it because I like my sex private, but I've told a version of the story to friends. If you spend any time in college, you hear these stories. I've heard much worse. I think the psych eval would have caught any real bad traits that Lane may have. He's not a monster.

You should hear some of the stories and jokes I've heard....and then re-told at later dates...the only difference is that I wasn't on live TV. I tell the jokes and stories in first person, and then deliver the punch line...and then everyone knows it's a joke because I'm not a pervert or any other type of deviant. Lane doesn't know any of the live feed subscribers, so they can't tell whether he's joking or truthful...THEY DON'T KNOW HIM.

I hope he gets to address the abuse his name has taken on the message boards. And I hope those who have condemned him will keep an open mind.

If it turns out that he is an abuser of women and animals, I will gladly administer the lethal injection myself.(a morbid joke, for those who don't get it)

Bicbicz911
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08-19-2005

Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 11:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bicbicz911 a private message Print Post    
My opinion of Lane won't change whether he was joking or not. I'm not accusing him of actually playing the 8 second game. He's talked about the game twice on the live feeds, presumably because he thinks it's funny and makes him look cool. These remarks, coupled with his other derogatory remarks about animals and women, are not funny.

I suppose I can understand how some people find them amusing, because I remember a time when Evel Dick's off-color remarks offended an entire internet full of people. I thought he was funny. I saw a heart underneath his bravado, probably because his estranged daughter was with him. I saw the things he did and said as a way to draw the target away from Danielle and towards himself. It was the single finale night I ever thoroughly enjoyed.

I don't see that little bit of heart peeking through Lane's facade. I know that others do, and I respect that. There is nothing he could do at this point that would redeem him, for me and for many others who are apparently atwitter (including on Twitter) about his words. He can have all the exit interviews he wants, and explain it all away with a swagger and a good ole boy grin. I won't be watching. I'd like to be a fly on the wall when he realizes they aren't famous, though. That would be priceless.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
I hear ya, Bicbicz. I can't get past it either, whether he participated by doing or watching or even telling it like he did without a second of regret even after questioned. It's time for him to grow the hell up.

Puckerbutt
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07-21-2001

Monday, September 13, 2010 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puckerbutt a private message Print Post    
I respectfully recuse myself from this discussion.