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Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, July 23, 2010 - 9:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Happy, I like Julie with prejudice. :-) I like her as a fellow Chinese from Taiwan. I know people who went to school with her in Taiwan and watched her blossom. I hope she comes to realize that, a few extra pounds actually makes her look so much better!

Tober, I'm not sure I could say "Like", (I like the show or I wont watch it live and on DVR or On Demand later even!) but I was glad they finally exposed Hayden & Kristen.
The thing I'm most approve of, is that they didn't wait for Matt's exit time before they let us in on the big lie.

These are relevant to the subject of things they show us on the TV show, right?

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Friday, July 23, 2010 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
They don't let the TV audience know much about the "mens club".

Maybe they're saving it for later when they have to eat their own.

As there is not much joy in the house, they have a problem.

There is also one with Andrew because he's not seen as mixing and that's turned into a bust for production.

This season has turned into a mental game, something they hadn't counted on.

Unless somehow the club is outted, they do control the game.

Ragan who is astute should realize the club exists.
The question is why doesn't he?

We don't know what role was assigned to each member of the club BEFORE we went live.

I have a feeling something in that department is being kept from us.


Why are the HG's blinded by not paying attention?

Is that another reason they want Kathy out?

Is she seen as a threat to the boys club or is she an easy out for them?

Matts HOH may tell us more and that's what we want.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, July 23, 2010 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Csnog, you remember Kaysar's strategy? Keep the obvious target around for every side to aim for so you could get by under all the fire lines.

I think that's why Kathy or even Andrew is target for now. It could backfire, of course.
Matt's loyalty to the Brigade is questionable still. I think he is using the boys on one alliance, having a loose agreement with Ragan at the same time. Let's wait and see if he will deal with Brenchel and save them around to take out some bigger dudes that he can't target in the open.
Or is Matt thinking that far?
It's not that I don't think he's smart enough to think far. I kinda think he might be bored to have to cultivate too many things. That could appear to be too tedious to Matt. He seemed to be looking for 15 sec. of fame on BB or believe that might translate into something in the fame & fortune department. I got these feelings from watching his Mike Boog. like behavior on the Live show and in the DR.

Jade
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07-08-2010

Friday, July 23, 2010 - 10:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jade a private message Print Post    
Liked-the reactions of the house when Annie was revealed as the saboteur

Dislike-the competitions for anything.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Friday, July 23, 2010 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
Matt is using the club.
Matt is using Ragan.
Matt is using R&B.
Matt is using Brit.
Matt knows that Kristen is being used by Hayden.
The only people he can't use are Andrew and Kathy.
That's why he wants them out.
Sorta got off subject.
Something happened BEFORE we got feeds, within the club.
That is what production is keeping from us.
Nice to see ya Chy.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, July 23, 2010 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Hi, Cs!
You're to the point.
Also right that this isn't the thread... Sorry Tober.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Friday, July 23, 2010 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
I haven't seen last night's show yet.

For the show the other night:
Liked: Enzo telling his strategy about imagining a trip to win the POV. I thought it was a really bad strategy. I was shocked that he almost won.
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Disliked: That the comp was "w/o going over. Where the heck did someone ever come up with that ridiculous rule and why is it continuing to be used?! It seems so unfair. (and I'm no fan of the meow-meow. it even annoys me that I actually typed that out.) He was only 14 seconds over! He should have won!

I do realize that dislike doesn't really have to do with the tv show presentation/edit.

I also really dislike SO much showing of Britney mocking Rachel. There must be something else going on that they could show us. (I do however like seeing Rachel feeling bad about making Brit sad...and liked seeing Brit and Monet being nice (and two faced) to Rachel.)

worst editing: Kristen and Kathy because I don't think they were shown at all in that tv ep.

(Chy, that is cool that you know people who went to school with Julie!)

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Monday, July 26, 2010 - 6:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
I really liked the scene with Brit teaching Enzo how to pronounce certain words. I could have used more of that one. It was funny.

Lake_gal
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06-09-2004

Monday, July 26, 2010 - 7:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lake_gal a private message Print Post    
I dislike that they spend so much time replaying everything. Do we really need to see Monet evicted 3 times? We saw it happen Thursday and they showed it again twice in the first 5 minutes of Sunday's show.

I also dislike they spent so much time on the HOH comp. It went on and on without much interesting happening.

The part I like is when they show the DR parts. I really wish we got to see more of what is said in the Diary Room. It is the only time we find out what they are really thinking. And it is blocked on the feeds so it is new material.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Monday, July 26, 2010 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
The scene with Brit and Enzo was one of the funniest things that I've ever seen on BB. Even with her Southern accent, she was pronouncing the words much more "correctly," but using "reckon" as part of her sentences just made it all the more hilarious.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Monday, July 26, 2010 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I agree they re-cap too often. I also agree I like to see more "genuine" comments made in the DR. So far, Britney and Enzo are the ones who seem to be more spontaneous in their remarks and not so much tutored by BB like the others.

Again, the absence of Kristen was incredible, how does she manage to stay so low-key in this game. Well, her eating the spider will have to be shown sooner or later...

I was surprised to see in the last show how Matt's wife letter was so "outside influence" as she is playing the game along with Matt by helping out with the lie "...don't worry, I'm in good hands", of course it's an innocuous sentence, but it reinforced the lie in the minds of the others who now really believe it and are full of sympathy for Matt.

I did like Britney helping Enzo with the proper pronunciation of words... that was cute, and Enzo wearing my Italian cap was something, I have one just like his, too bad I cannot wear it after Italy's poor performance at the World Cup, if he only knew he would throw the cap away too..

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
The VITO comp was such a throw back to previous shows.

What every happened to "expect the unexpected"????

They need to show a little bit of creative expansion.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 7:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
What I liked in this show tonight was the "underdog" surviving yet another time. Brandon winning POV was sweet, in the sense that Matt's plan made him look dumb in front of his brigade.
Whoever said that Andrew gave it to Brandon was wrong, they weren't even close in their score. And why shouldn't Brandon try his hardest to win POV, and after Andrew' speech why would Brandon veto Andrew knowing Rachel would go up. Brandon had no choice but to demonstrate to Andrew that Rachel comes first and he second. Sorry Andrew, blame it all on Matt.
That was nice to see. But that's all.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 5:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Best scene- Andrew and Kristen fighting AND Andrew's speech before he got kicked out.

Worst scene- The HOH comp.

Worst editing----- The Kathy scene with Regan when she tells him ??? huh??? what??? No follow up? No diary room interview? No context? I can't even remember what she said. Maybe I have to go look at it again.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Ummmm.... I'm glad that they dealt with Matt's lie. But all I could think when they showed his wife was...

...wait for it...

She looked like she has had vampire teeth onlays added to her mouth. I was afraid that she would bite herself when she spoke.

Nickovtyme
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07-28-2004

Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
The "my man" schtick is overdone.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Friday, July 30, 2010 - 6:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Anyone else see the vampire teeth?

Can I get a screen cap?

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Friday, July 30, 2010 - 6:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
You can see one of them in this...

vampire

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Friday, July 30, 2010 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Matt's winning will take care of that, I'm sure... so he hopes.. so she hopes.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, July 30, 2010 - 7:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
it almost looks like she is wearing fake teeth and I noticed she talked a little funny like you do when you wear them

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Friday, July 30, 2010 - 8:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Yes. That is what I thought. That her teeth were too big for her mouth or something.

Necie
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09-07-2006

Friday, July 30, 2010 - 11:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Necie a private message Print Post    
Matt's wife just has a crowding in her mouth. Her mouth is too small so her canines are overlapping her other teeth.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 6:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Best scene was the cat fight after the hoh comp.

Runner up was the Andrew fight during the voting.

Worst editing???

Well when they showed the movie trailer to the HGs, and they cut away to their reactions... a film student could have done better.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 5:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Best scene was the manipulating scene with Bren and Rach in the HOH bathroom. She wanted him to agree with her or there wouldn't be a relationship.

Worst scene was that cheap ass vito comp. I guess the summer interns must be proud.

Editing? Eh... the movie screening and all that fake laughing intercuts.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Tobor, I wonder if our reactions to the show would be any different if we didn't know the outcome already. I mean, here we are, we already knew Britney won POV, we already know Kristen will be voted out, we already know Brandon and Rachel will be up on the block on Friday, we already know a new sab will be offered, there are way too many things we already know that when we're in front of the tv to see the tv show we're like.... duh??? So, I wonder if not knowing anything at all of what's going in on in the house and seeing it only on the tv show would please me more, but almost every scene was so deja vu for me that there was no excitement whatsoever.

What I felt was well edited was the odd couple Branchel, obviously a too outspoken and spontaneous Rachel being stifled by a sanctimonius Brandon... something creepy in that.

Also, Hayden's greed in taking the POV from Kristen knowing that he had the votes to stay was awful to see and Kristen totally unaware of it made me want to step in there and shout "wake up girl!!". So that was the only reaction I got because that veto comp was the only thing yet unseen by the viewers before the show.