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Justalittlebean
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08-15-2003

Friday, August 21, 2009 - 3:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Justalittlebean a private message Print Post    
Chima's episode of Cold Case Files will be on next Thursday (8/27). It will be on A&E twice that day. It airs at 12pm EST and 6pm EST. Her episode is titled "Deja Vu".



Jasminethepup
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07-14-2005

Friday, August 21, 2009 - 4:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasminethepup a private message Print Post    
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if she did show up at the finale and caused a scene.
That would be just like her to do that.

Stray_cat
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06-21-2006

Friday, August 21, 2009 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stray_cat a private message Print Post    
Thanks Justalittlebean for the heads up

Oliviamimi
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05-30-2009

Friday, August 21, 2009 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oliviamimi a private message Print Post    
She will cause a scene if they allow her to. She herself is a racist but wants the entitlement of being able to do and say anything she wants without anyone judging her. She either needs drugs, therapy, counseling, or a combination of all. With all this being said, I pity her and I pray for her. She was raped and brutalized. Anyone who has ever experienced this knows it changes you forever. You can't lay your head down at night without fear and a sense of panic.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, August 21, 2009 - 7:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I'll join in with the Armchair amateur psychologists and throw in my two cents worth.

Chima overreacted in many ways, took things way too personally. She made many sharp comments then laughed heartily in a manner that proved it was tongue in cheek.

she did go overthetop in some of her humorous snarky comments, always ending it with a laugh.

BB has changed since Shapiro retired. BB has gone downhill with its blind eye towards violent attacks and verbal harrassment.

Racists (ryan) , homophobic comments, mocking the mentally handicapped (adam), Verbal threats of Attacks on HG's family OUTSIDE of the house (jeff threatened Russ/ Michele with killing their families) , Rape or sodomy (E.D) is A-0kay with this new AG BigBrother.

Mics have been purposefully ruined many times thru different seasons. Cams ahve been flipped off at etc. CHima asked to leave the house, i dont believe for one second she was pulled for an hour or so of Hissyfit.

ON a final note, I dont think Amber passed her Psych exam her season, I dont think Chima passed her psych exam this season.

BB chose to put vunerable personalities, partially RECOVERED psyches in the house to break down....for our entertainment.

Are we entertained??

Sorry, I think Chima's past flared up when Russell had his face in hers and was Hollaring. Chima was not the same since.

do I agree BB demeans women? HECK yes.

I'd love to see the rules set solidly like BBUK. But most of all, I'd like to see BB enforced their own rules and quit playing favorites.

Iheartkaysar
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08-16-2005

Friday, August 21, 2009 - 7:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iheartkaysar a private message Print Post    
I think reality shows demean humans. Unfortunately, women and racial minorities are among the more vulnerable of those humans.}}

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 8:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
If Chima knew how demeaning BB was to women, then why did she go on the show? If Chima knew BB was racist, then why did she go on the show? Chima went on the show with an agenda to prove the above, and unfortunately she played right into the stereotype. Chima needs to stop posting, sit back, and take a good long look at what she did. Because it was pretty unimpressive with regards to playing the game or respecting the rules.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
<i dont believe for one second she was pulled for an hour or so of Hissyfit.>

Neither do I. It was days and days of rude, obnoxious screaming, threatening/goading/finger in the face crap, rule breaking, and overt racist behavior that got her pulled. And then, of course, the destruction of expensive property in an effort to look 'sooo bad, she cool'.

Her narcissism and sense of entitlement alone should have been enough to fail any psyche test, never mind digging into the multitude of other problems left behind in the wake of her brutal attack. Yep, girl should never have been on the show, exposed as she was, trying to be yet another pathetic and less than likable reality 'star'; instead she should have been quietly and privately engaged in some serious psychotherapy in an attempt to heal her damaged psyche and nervous system and giving her a chance to really put it behind her and live a somewhat normal life.

Being a hamster on BB was the last place Chima should have been.

Chief
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08-09-2009

Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 4:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chief a private message Print Post    
If Chima was booted from the show, BB would have had no need to spend 2 whole episodes, diary room sessions with all the remaining HGs, public relations statements, Julie Chen's scripted statements, etc. and etc. to prove it. Because they overdid it by going overboard to "prove" to the public that she was evicted, makes it look like CBS is covering up something.

A day or so ago, Natalie said (on the feeds) that the producers tried to get her to say that she saw Chima do [this or that or the other] things, and wanted to tape her statements. Natalie said she refused. BB shouldn't have had to go through all of that effort just to justify Chima's departure. It makes the whole thing sound questionable, so I believe Chima DID ask to leave several days prior, and finally got the chance.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 4:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I disagree. I don't think CBS had to prove anything. I think they were simply milking the last bits of controversial behavior out of that ridiculous houseguest who TOTALLY got her butt kicked off the show and has a MAJOR case of sour grapes about it.

Chima thought Chima could do whatever Chima wanted. Big Brother proved her wrong. Period.

Onlymytulips
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07-17-2005

Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlymytulips a private message Print Post    
They had to remove Chima. If you watched the Feeds, you already knew that.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 4:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Chief in their place I would have done the same thing. Chima threatened all kinds of things and used her race as some weapon against them. They should have shown everything she said and did, but they showed enough to keep her from being able to create a frivalous lawsuit. She was already trying to make it look like she was the victim less than 24 hours after she left by giving a press release. She got what she deserved and thanks to CBS there isn't any speculation just proof.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 4:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Chief, production didn't drag Allison out of bed because Chima wanted to quit.


Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 5:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
If Chima was booted from the show, BB would have had no need to spend 2 whole episodes

You're right. And that is exactly why BB didn't spend "2 whole episodes." They did address the Chima expulsion in portions of two episodes, but by NO means was it addressed for "2 whole episodes."

It's hardly unusual for BB to rehash the previouslies, after all. In fact, when spoiling shows, there is no reason to even type up the first several minutes. We just use "Previouslies", and everyone knows exactly what we mean.



A day or so ago, Natalie said (on the feeds) that the producers tried to get her to say that she saw Chima do [this or that or the other] things, and wanted to tape her statements. Natalie said she refused.

Yes, Natalie did say that DR tried to get her to say that she saw Chima throw her mic. But Natalie wouldn't say it. Just like she didn't say it the night she tried to fish it out of the hot tub. With the pool net in her hand, reaching for Chima's mic, she said, "It fell out of her hand."
Lydia then said, "Yeah, right. It fell. Whatever."

So, it seems clear that Natalie, as is in keeping with her "Once you tell a lie, never ever ever tell anyone it was a lie" behavior was just following her typical path.

Another thing you may have missed is that she told Kevin to also not say that Chima had thrown her mic, saying that there was a chance "they" might not have seen it.
Kevin made one of his "that's ridiculous" faces and said to Natalie, "Natalie, they've got cameras everywhere. They have twenty or thirty views of it."



So, for me, based on all the things I have directly seen and heard, Chima is being less than truthful. As she is wont to do. It's not the first time I've witnessed her less than truthful behavior.

If Chima feels she has quit, then she should just quit.
If she feels she was fired unjustly, which she obviously doesn't (since she said she wasn't fired) she should file that lawsuit she was talking about since the day that Feeds began.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
IF chima "had" to be removed after all these weeks, Evel Dick should have been removed after the first week.

if a person looks at Holly's post and Exchanges the word "Her" with HIM and instead of "overt racist behavior " say overt mysogynist sexist behaviour The paragraph is a perfect match for Fan Favourite ED.

he Got away with it because it is Culturally acceptable for men to speak/act roughly.

our society does not like to see its Women act like E.D.

thats my opinion, I'm sticking to it regardless

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 7:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The difference is Dick played the game and Chima tried to play Big Brother. She got played instead.

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 7:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
being a survivor of rape I really tried to cut Chima some slack! but she played the card I will bring the FCC down on the show, I will do anything I want to ruin the live show, I wont go to DR, I wont wear my mic etc etc! When she walked in the DR she had her mic on, a glass in her hand ready to sit down and tell BB what she thought of them and she didn't get the chance they said Don't sit down go out the door! She felt she could say and do what she wanted because she is CHIMA
Thats MY Opinion and I am sticking to it

Naja
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06-28-2003

Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 8:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Justalittlebean wrote:

Chima's episode of Cold Case Files will be on next Thursday (8/27). It will be on A&E twice that day. It airs at 12pm EST and 6pm EST. Her episode is titled "Deja Vu".


Thanks for the reminder, Justa! I set my dvr.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 9:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I dont belive anything Nat says about that. She was the first to say 'she dropped it'! LOL like there was no camera there to see that she threw it. Chima was trying to get kicked out imo, she thought she would be more famous for it.

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 11:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
I do believe that Chima still has some issues left from her rape. I believe that in real life these issues were not on the surface and she probably functioned very well. Being in the pressure cooker of the BB house added with her agend to write about prejudice in the BB house was just too much for her. I don't think she would have cracked the way she did in the BB house if she had not gone into the BB house. I think she would have been able to maintain if left in the real world.

So I can see her passing a psych test before going into the house, but the dynamics in the house were just too much for her. If I had been Jen, I would have cracked under ED's behavior.

JMHO.

Caprica
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Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Evil Dick was not disrespectful to production.

He may have been a jerk to the entire house but that was his game play(hated him by the way).

Chima was not removed because of her treatment of other house guests or even the stupid remarks she made.
Chima was removed for being a pain in Big Brothers butt.
Chima forgot who was running the show and she forgot to read 1984 before entering the house.

Chief
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08-09-2009

Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 7:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chief a private message Print Post    
Chima's departure was purely at her request, and that's it, IMO. CBS can cut/paste/edit the show however they want (and we all know that they do) to get the storyline to look like they want it, but the truth will always be the truth. From time to time over the years, some of us have been quite upset at how the shows were edited, especially after we had seen the live feeds and know the REAL sequence of events in the house. So it's ironic to me now that CBS' edited version is accepted as the "truth." We know better. It's a TV show, and they will do what is necessary to bring the drama and ratings.

Chima requested to leave the house, and finally got her request met, and that's it.

Analogy: You go into a store and request assistance from a sales person for an item you want to purchase. The sales person keeps putting you off or ignoring you. You remain patient for a while before asking or reminding the sales person that you are still waiting. They continue their behavior. Eventually you ask to speak to a manager, etc. By the time it's over, you are very angry and vow to never shop at that store again, and so on.

If Chima wanted out, she wanted out, period. I believe that since they wouldn't LET her out, she did things to push it to the breaking point so they would have to take that action.

In the history of BB, any house guest who left, went out through the Diary Room, not the front door, and this time was no different. I think BB had days to plan this "departure" for Chima, primarily because she kept asking to leave. CBS just wanted to do it on their terms. Why else would they record the diary room exit? To make it SEEM that this was their decision!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 8:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
So CBS forced Chima to throw the microphone in the pool?

Why would CBS care if Chima wanted to quit? They had another player decide to leave the game and that was acceptable to them?

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 8:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Except many of us saw the live feeds, and we saw Chima intentionally destroy the microphone after refusing to wear it. If Chima wanted to leave and they weren't letting her, all she had to do was pack her bags, and then start saying any time she saw a camera on her "I'm trying to leave and they won't let me out!" and someone watching the feeds would have called the police (which happened in the UK one season when a fight broke out in the house).

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 9:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
Yep, Merrysea ~ That's where I just don't buy Chima's version.