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Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Then how can he know about chucking other contestants' clothing over the wall? Because he talked about that in some detail.

Jenjackso
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02-10-2009

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jenjackso a private message Print Post    
I'm just sharing what he said on the live feeds. What season did that happen in?

Noschmo
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08-05-2009

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Noschmo a private message Print Post    
I still love Jeff. But his brutal meanness towards Michelle is really turning me sour. I understand as some of you do too that Russell could be a real threat later and this might be taking a better chance. But him and Jordan being so mean to Michelle is beyond my understanding, if i hear him say one more time "i'm over here" i might punch my tv...haha...(k not really cause hubby, no bueno!)

Noschmo
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08-05-2009

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 10:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Noschmo a private message Print Post    
over her..oops

Chouchou
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08-09-2007

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 11:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chouchou a private message Print Post    
jeff is not the most clever person. he got lucky to recive the help of the viewers, which is not actually winning a competition to gain power and has since been carried with jordan by the show's producers.

kevin and natalie have more instinctual wit than jeff to really make daring moves, even when they're down and out, which is what they'll achieve when russell goes home tomorrow, and i think they will be the next HOH since jordan is not a great competitor.

michelle could win, but since jordan doesn't count, michelle has a 1/3 chance of winning against kevin and natalie and that's not dominating odds therefore i think jeff will be going home next unless he wins the veto. and hopefully the producers don't rig that for him too

Pippin04
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10-26-2007

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pippin04 a private message Print Post    
Jeff needs to remember that Kevin and Natalie have two votes already in the jury house. I my opinion if Natalie, Kevin or Russel go to the jury house they will vote against Jeff for final two.

His best bet would be to make a deal to keep Russel and take him to the end. I do not think he can beat anyone else in the final two.

Chouchou
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08-09-2007

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chouchou a private message Print Post    
very good point Pippin

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
What season did that happen in?


I believe it was Season 5.

Chere
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08-10-2005

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
Jeff and Jordan mentioned in their preshow interviews with Diane that they were watching her season bb5 in the hotel room. That's why they talk about bb5 with great detail on the feeds.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 2:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Kep, Jeff can't play for HOH this Thursday...

Nope... he sure can't. But he can play for POV and possibly take himself off.

That's why I think its Jordan who is gonna go next week.

Katidyd
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 2:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Katidyd a private message Print Post    
I thought his gameplay was pretty good until he got HoH. He has hurt himself in the eyes of the fans with his outbursts plus he hasn't made any friends in the jury house.

He might have thrown away the $500k by winning HoH.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 2:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I agree. I can't see how these outbursts help Jeff at all, inside or outside of the game. Jeff has the upper hand at the moment as HOH. There is no need or benefit for him to act that way.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
No one else can make F2 deals. You can only talk to who he says. You must be willing to ignore the person who's leaving to make them feel that much worse about it. He has become Jesse with his own version of a pit bull and we all know where that leads . . . .
Come to JH, Jeffie, come to JH!

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 7:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Mostly, the thing I don't get about Jeff's reactions to Russell is that Jeff never went to Russell and said, "I'm sorry, Dood. It's just game. I had to do it."

Instead, he expects Russell to come to him and grovel.

Yeah. It just doesn't work like that.
I actually think Russell might have been better about it all if Jeff had been just a wee bit humble and gracious about his power and his move.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
Jeff has IMO "relationship problems". He is involved with Jordan in a "friendship" that early on kept him stable. He is realizing now that Jordan "ain't got no game" and he's pissed at himself for now being "stuck" with her and thinking he has to do everything to get both of them to F2. I feel for him! I want her out of there next wk because she's messing up MY Jeff's game.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 7:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
The huge mistake Jeff made was to involve their families, it may have been a joke to Jeff but not to Russell. The lack of communication between these two after they made the deal was even worse in reassuring they would stick to F4. Russell should have made sure that Jeff understood that once he mentions family it means real business to Russell, he would never back down. But we didn't see this and Jeff was not to keen on communicating with Russell because he was too busy listening to the lies Kevin was feeding him.
Also, after nominations Russell should not have waited until POV to make sure that Jeff understood he was 100% on board, that once he swears on his family he would never never go back on his word.
Again, Jeff was pissed that he found out Russell had a F2 deal which to him makes F4 nul and void.
Russell and Jeff did not communicate properly and the alliance blew up in their faces.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I agree Bee. Jeff would have expected Russell to be a bigger man had the roles been reversed. Jeff is way too arrogant for someone who had to have America pull his ass out of the dumpster.

Leafsweetie
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06-29-2005

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 8:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Leafsweetie a private message Print Post    
Has there been a greater fall from grace on BB?

Lyn
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08-07-2002

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 9:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lyn a private message Print Post    
From my brief tonight it's a goshdarn good thing I've lost interest in the show. I don't think I've turned on the feeds for at least a week

This season went downhill quickly :-( Now I don't want anyone to win

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 9:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Spunky, the week Russ was HOH, he talked to Jeff at least once and for quite a while about how important his family is and how much they mean to him. It was very clear Russell didn't joke around about that type of stuff when it came to his family. I think he was under the impression that because both he and Jeff came from big, Catholic families they had the same ideas about how serious it was to swear on their families.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 7:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Yes, I remember and I was a bit surprised that Russ is Catholic and maybe he was just saying that... but on the last tv show we saw how he "crossed" himself and he was alone in the room, then I stopped wondering.
People here were saying that it was better for Russell not to bug Jeff for reassurrance, that he would have made things worse for himself, I didn't think so, that was the time to do something, not just waiting for Michelle to do it for him (and we know how Michelle hurt Russell's game with her "I don't remember" and her constant bashing of Russell to JJ). All Russell needed to do was to go to Jeff and remind him of the swearing and how much it meant to him, and that he would never go back to his word to him. Of course, Jeff had other things on his mind and it included backdooring Russell.

Leafsweetie
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06-29-2005

Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 8:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Leafsweetie a private message Print Post    
Spunky: which episode did he "cross himself"? And do you remember which part of the episode?

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 8:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Leaf,
it was on Tuesday's tv show, he did it in a hurry fearing someone would come into the room... I think it had nothing to do with what just happened before, it may have been edited to insert that clip just then...to me it seemed out of theme at that moment.

Leafsweetie
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06-29-2005

Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 8:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Leafsweetie a private message Print Post    
lol I "spoiled" most of that episode and had to go before the POV ceremony... so I must've missed it.

I'll try and look for it.

Chief
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08-09-2009

Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chief a private message Print Post    
ITA mostly about what everyone has mentioned about Jeff's game play. It's downright pitiful, though, that he is clinging to the "F2" stuff as a valid excuse for what he has done. He should've just been man enough to just let Russ know it was the best game move for him at that point. I'll bet if Russ made that F2 deal WITH Jeff, it would be a different story right now!


Jeff wants to win this game so badly that he has resorted to acting just like Jessie! It won't be long before he kicks Jordan to the curb, either. She's his comfort for now, but I can already tell he's ready to kick her to the curb, so he can move forward.