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Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I don't think Chima's HOH was successful. Yes, she did have the women (and Kevin) bowing to her... but that was simply because she was HOH. As soon as the power shifted I bet those women will bow at someone else's feet. Michelle won't be as receptive as Chima was, but I don't think that has anything to do with the fact that the women were just kissing the one in power.

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
Actually, I don't see that as such a strong alliance. If she had been any kind of leader, Chima wouldn't have participated in making it so clear to Kevin last night that he was number four in their group, leaving him alone to talk game with Michele. The other two of her alliance members have been at each other's throats most of the game and could turn on each other at any point. Watch how fast they fall apart when two of them go on the block together!

Chima doesn't demonstrate leadership, she's just bossy and likes to have her own way.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Chima demanded that the other houseguests toe her line...that doesn't make for long-term allegiance. She was more of a dictator than a leader.

Kitkat
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08-23-2008

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitkat a private message Print Post    
What, I don't think she built an alliance, the people around her are there to save their own hides and because they enjoy the meaness exhibited by Chima.

Chima does not deserve any praise in any form!

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
How can she play her cards right now? She's more than likely going to be nominated and then voted out.

... and that's because she didn't play a good hand of cards when she was HOH. Sure she's the queen bee of her alliance, but it's very likely that that alliance will soon be in the minority - and it didn't have to be.

In spite of her differences with Russell, if she had kept her game head she would have seen that she could have easily brought him back on side (Michele did, and has). If she wasn't so clear to Kevin that he's only in her alliance until the men are gone, he might not be hedging his bets with the other side now. If she was more careful with Michele, she might have kept her floating, or at least kept herself off Michele's block (she rammed her own agenda into Michele, rather than playing to Michele's personality). She hasn't spent any time getting to know Jeff and Jordan, who right now could be influencing Michele to put Natalie and Lydia on the block, or even Kevin, ahead of her.

As I said, I do agree that Chima has achieved one good thing, and that was to gain control of Jessie's alliance. Other than that, she's screwing up big time.

Kidsatm
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07-08-2005

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kidsatm a private message Print Post    
IMO Chima squandered whatever benefit she may have received from her HOH but refusing to adapt to her situation. As stated by Kmjm & Roxip, she did not show leadership, she was just bossy.

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
I strongly disagree with the thread topic.

The only thing she succeeded at was getting BB to do what she wanted to an extent. The rest was played out with her emotions. Never a good thing to do in the BB House. She is very emotional as a player and it will be her downfall.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Chima could have been in a good position with Michelle but her caddy behavior ruined that. She also has to worry about Russell. Kevin likes Chima but he's most likely to begin repairing with Jeff on the down low. I can see Nat and Chima being very sore losers this week. I hope Russ laughs and enjoys it. I bet his stress acne clears up.

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
Shen, I found it very telling when Michele said last night that she didn't want the winner to be decided on race or gender.

As we saw and I mentioned above, Chima was ramming her personal agenda down Michele's throat - if she had been more perceptive, she would have realized that Michele doesn't think like that, and appealed to her in a way that spoke to Michele's motivations, not her own.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Nope, she wasn't successful as hoh...neither of her nominees went home. Two of her own alliance members went up, one left. She's stuck with Natalie who hasn't won a thing all season and Lydia who not only hasn't won but has flitted between the different sides (remember the Jeff/Jordan/Kevin/Lydia deal.) Not to mention the two of them are bound to go off on each other sooner or later and Russell is still left in the house and out for revenge.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I think her HOH was successful...for us!!!! LOL

Jesse is out and she will be next. very successful :-)

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
I think no one will vote for Chima if she does get nominated because all the other HG's would like to be up against her if they are the final two.

So, I guess in that sense, she was successful.

Chief
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08-09-2009

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chief a private message Print Post    
I need to check the live feeds from last night. But I do agree with this thread title.

Minus the CDT, which Chima couldn't calculate, she managed to do what other HOHs have not done yet. All the other HOHs so far have been like cookie cutters.

As someone has noted, it was clear that Chima was the new head of Jessie's alliance. She also made it clear that she wanted a female to win, even if it was not her, which set the stage for a new alliance. Further, even if some of the houseguests (or people on our boards) don't like her, she's demonstrated that she is a force to be reckoned with. If she makes it to the F2, I'm sure she'd have no problem with defending her reasoning and make total sense for why she should win.

Michele is still in the game because of Chima. When everyone was doubting her, calling her crazy, etc. (especially Russell), Chima stuck by Michele's side and defended her. I'm surprised Michele would backstab that way.

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 11:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
Michele is still in the game because she won several vetos, and because she did a good job of playing Chima into thinking she was on her side.

And although Chima didn't know the nature of the CDE, she did know it existed and should have planned for the possibility that her nominations would not stand, that Russell would remain, and that her alliance might end the week less a member. Instead, she threatened everyone and demanded they do her bidding, and refused to believe that anyone would use the CDE.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Michele was Chima's choice for replacement nominee if the POV had been used.
So, the "backstabbing" idea runs both ways.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
If Jesse had stayed in the house, Chima would not have been the head of the alliance, and there would not have been an "women's alliance." Lydia and Natalie were just going along with her because she was HOH, just like they went along with Ronnie when he was HOH. They were not going to ever vote Jesse out on their own.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 12:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
And Chima was only TEMPORARY head of Jesse's alliance, because she was HOH. They let her have the illusion that she controlled everything but I think that would have changed anyways this week when she was no longer HOH.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Chief I'm surprised too. I would have thought Michelle would want to keep friendly with Chima but I think all of the caddy digs at people have taken a toll. Chima should have kept her cool and behaved more like Kevin who is, of the lot of them, the only one with his head in the game on their side.

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
Excellent point Merrysea.

Chief
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08-09-2009

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 2:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chief a private message Print Post    
Shenanagon, so right about Kevin. He may just end up winning this game, too. He's made no real enemies, and covers everything he does and says. Like last week, he didn't use the POV to take Lydia off the block. He talked with her and they worked it out, and she would probably still give him her vote if he makes it to F2. And right now, neither side wants him out.

Re: Michele and Chima. You made a good point that Chima should have kept her cool. I'm still not understanding how Michele is thinking. Even if she is tired of Chima's digs at people, it would have been good to keep Chima in her "back pocket." Russell was downright indignant and mean to Michele's face! Oy!

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 3:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
I just don't get how Chima's HOH could be considered "successful" in any sense of the word. Chima's HOH reign was a train wreck for her and her entire alliance.

Chima was the 5th HOH from her alliance. It was Jessie first, Ronnie second, Jessie third, Russell fourth, and Chima fifth.

Her nominations went in the toilet and instead, one of her closest allies was evicted. It now looks like her behavior last week may just result in her eviction on Thursday.

Everyone knows who Chima's targets are and who her allies are based on her behavior and big mouth during her week as HOH. What's left of her once strong alliance is now running scared.

Jbw
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08-14-2006

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbw a private message Print Post    
I'm still not understanding how Michele is thinking.

Michele is thinking she'd rather be #3 in the Jeff & Jordan group than #4 or #5 in the Chima, Natalie, Kevin & Lydia group.

Smart move would be to vote out Natalie this week. With Natalie gone, Russ will join with the J,J&M group. Russ will never team up with Chima without Natalie as part of the group. Also if Chima wins HOH next week, Russ & Jeff will still be her main targets, not Michelle.

Chief
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08-09-2009

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 3:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chief a private message Print Post    
JBW, I'm not so sure that Michele won't be Chima's new target. Chima may become more hurt behind Michele turning on her than Russell. For all it matters now, Russell's nomination was a bust for Chima, so she may just steer clear of him, knowing that it'd be hard for him to win in the end. Michele, however, could possibly win the game, so she could easily move to #1 as the target for the other side.

On a side note, Russell is known for his hinky voting. I hope he and Chima patch up their differences and work together in secret. NO ONE would be expecting that! LOL

Jbw
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08-14-2006

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 3:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbw a private message Print Post    
I disagree. As long as he's in the game, Russ will always be Chima's main target and Chima will always be Russ's main target. Chima hates Russ and straight men in general. She won't go after Michelle until Jeff & Russ are gone.

Chima is also a bully. She knows she can't bully Russ or Jeff. She tried and failed. I'm sure she thinks she can eventually bully Michelle when Jeff & Russ are gone.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 3:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Hopefully, the only target Chima will have next week is a dart board at the Jury House.