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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Big Brother ARCHIVES: Big Brother 11 - Part 7: General Discussions: Will Jordan & Jeff date in "Real Life" and will it last??: ARCHIVES: Archive through September 14, 2009 users admin

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Lillian
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07-29-2009

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 1:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
Bonbon, actually that was rather telling - not that she said she wanted to be a squirrel, but by Jeff's reaction to it.

I think he'd become frustrated really fast with someone who didn't share or at least fully support his ambition right now. AFAIK, he lives at home and is a telemarketer - this is his chance to elevate his life a bit in the narrow window following the show.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 1:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
I think Jeff did play the game from the start. He said in a post eviction interview that he waited for the right opportunity to make a move and that's exactly what he did when he used the CDT.....which just happened to be after the cliques were over!

Jeff had been unable to nominate the HGs he wanted to evict until the cliques twist ended...because his targets were in his own clique. From that moment he showed himself to be a great competitor.

I think the fact that he waited until the right opportunity to step up his game was a good move, although a lot of people just saw that as "not playing the game". That's like saying a deer hunter hiding in a blind for hours and hours while waiting for a deer is "not hunting". You often have to wait for the right opportunity in order to make a move! Jeff did exactly that.

Jordan did what many reality show players do....she flew under the radar and wind up in a sweet spot. She also showed that she "had game" after all when she soundly beat Nat in HOH Part 2.

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 1:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
Sanfran - but Jeff never had any opportunity to nominate anyone while he was part of a clique, because he didn't win HOH. If anything, the clique set up helped rather than hamper him, as I'm pretty sure that Jessie or Russell would have happily eliminated him the first few weeks of the game.

Lanzee
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07-12-2000

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 1:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lanzee a private message Print Post    
No, it will not happen. I am sure that they will be great friends forever. That's all. IMPO, I don't believe in the reality relationships.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I don't understand why it is "sad" for people to have opinions that differ, or to think realistically after watching dozens of these showmances melt like a snow cone on a desert road.

I think it would be sad if Jordan was to take whatever money she brings from this show (and after hopefully considering the taxes) and spend it on something other than a real goal lie getting an education or helping her family (starting with HER remaining bills for her boobs and repaying her brother who has been paying for Jordan's car lease while she is gone). She went on the show to help her family and while I hope they don't bleed her dry, that was her goal. If Jeff wasn't willing to come to visit her, I hope she isn't made to feel she should spend her money to go to him.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 2:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"Sanfran - but Jeff never had any opportunity to nominate anyone while he was part of a clique, because he didn't win HOH."

or...

Jeff never really tried to win HOH because he had no opportunity to nominate anyone while he was part of a clique.

"If anything, the clique set up helped rather than hamper him"

It did both....he couldn't be nominated, but he also couldn't go after the ones he wanted to nominate. That was a perfect reason to hang back and allow others win the HOH comps.

I guess one could hypothesize that he just happened to start winning competitions after the cliques ended, but it could've just as easily been his strategy. He did say that he held back until he saw the right opportunity, and we all saw him suddenly take charge of the game and start winning comps at that point.

There are two ways to look at it.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 2:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Jordan is young and has her whole life ahead of her.
She also has very stong beliefs about not having casual sex which is rare for someone her age.

Jordan is going to want to see how things play out before making a commitment like that and I'm not sure Jeff is willing to wait.

Jordan should try college again there are plenty to choose from in North Carolina.

If Jeff wants Jordan he is going to have to work for her.

Time will tell if he is willing.

Mary1971
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07-28-2009

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 2:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mary1971 a private message Print Post    
Seamonkey-It's NOT sad that people have differences of opinion. It's sad that people are so cynical towards Romance they don't think Jeff & Jordan even have a shot? Reality TV people are still people who have emotions and who have Romances every day in real life! Why not meet the life of your life on a reality TV show? The Divorce rate remains at 50% so its NO Shocker MOST reality TV Romances don't work out as MOST romances in life in general don't. BUT Jeff & Jordan have a good start with genuine respect, like and affection for each other. Why the heck wouldn't we expect them to give it a go & at least try? Its sad that people don't see reality tv people as real people who want & deserve love just as much as anyone else. That's very very sad.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 2:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Perhaps with the right does of several medications, they'll live happily ever after.

And Mary says I'm not romantic. pffffft. lol

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 2:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
UhOh, didn't see ya up there mare. lol

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Mary, Mary, Mary. Who doesn't see them as real people? Who doesn't think everyone deserves love and happiness?

Saying J/J won't remain an item does not equate with any of that.

You know what they say about opinions right? Opinions are like Aholes. We all have em. lol

Mary1971
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07-28-2009

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mary1971 a private message Print Post    
Chippy-Gosh you are so cynical! Yes, you & everyone is saying "Reality TV relationships don't last" As if Reality TV people aren't real people with feelings? As if they don't have just as good a chance as anyone does to make a relationship work? So, why wouldn't Jeff & Jordan? Everyone just assumes they won't! Remember what they tell you, Chippy about assuming? It makes an Ass out of you & me! Don't assume! Instead think positive & wish them the best!

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I think they will get married! lol, just kidding, but I do think they will be life long friends at the very least.

Joyceellaine
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07-30-2005

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 3:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Joyceellaine a private message Print Post    
Jeff and Jordan have nothing in common other than BB. He was frustrated with her lack of intelligence in the house, but was stuck with her...Outside the house she would be an embarrassment to him. He will run back to his own friends and leave her in the dust.

Needlenose
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09-16-2005

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Needlenose a private message Print Post    
Simply, I think they might make it if "it is God's will" and they realize that He is in control . . . They communicate really well and that is a foundation. They make each other laugh. They seem to be similar in the intellectual area and I think they are equal in the looks department . . . With all the above, my vote is yes!

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Mary, you're not the boss of me. lol

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 3:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Nobody's assuming Jordan and Jeff's relationship won't work. We're giving our opinions.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 3:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Mary... I don't think people are saying that Jeff and Jordan are not real people or that it is not possible for two people who have met on a reality show to continue with a romance... I just think that many of us do not see the required connection between Jeff and Jordan for them to be the reality couple that will make it. We all get that you believe they have IT but as much as I like both of them I do not believe they will last.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 3:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
I firmly believe in this day and age that you have to think outside the box. I met my now husband online in 2001. We talked every day for a year and a half either on the phone or on the computer before we ever met in person. The only way it would work was for one of us to be willing to leave everything and move.

Will Jeff and Jordan work out? Only time will tell, but if I remember correctly there is at least 1000 miles between them? So, one would have to be willing to give up a lot. I don't think Jordan is ready to give up her family...and I am willing to bet that Jeff's job is more lucrative than waitressing (I have done sales and I have done waitressing) in a small town.

Just my two cents!

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 3:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
No, I don't think they will date, friends perhaps, but there really is nothing there that I can see. I don't see them hanging out in the house as a relationship, they barely know one another and it would take one or the other moving to develop a relationship. I don't even see a spark that would give me the impression they would.

I've seen a couple of sparks, one is Sean and Rachele from RWRR reunion show, I think they have 5 kids now; and I think their names are Rob and Amber from Survivor; and then the couple from Biggest Looser. The biggest spark I saw, though, was Sean and Rachele and when I saw them meet on the show, I thought, I wonder if they'll date.

It can happen, people with common interests meet in varying circumstances, but I don't think it did with Jordan and Jeff. And I don't like the way he spoke to her, he's too old for her, and so on.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 3:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Stormie,

I am with you...I just don't see either one being willing to give up everything to move several thousand miles away for a "maybe relationship".

Jenjackso
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02-10-2009

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 3:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jenjackso a private message Print Post    
I'm the one who used the word "sad" and my post said that it was sad that people think that there has to be lightning and excitement for it to be a real relationship. Slow and steady wins the race.

My opinion that it is sad is based on my slow and steady experience being married to someone who was a friend first.

Dke1212
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07-13-2005

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 3:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dke1212 a private message Print Post    
No and No...

Mary1971
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07-28-2009

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 3:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mary1971 a private message Print Post    
Chippy- That's where you are wrong! I am the boss of everyone. LOL

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Monday, September 14, 2009 - 3:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Jen I agree, getting to know one another and becoming friends is a great way to begin a relationship, but a spark isn't lightning and I just don't see it with these two.