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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Big Brother USA ARCHIVES: Big Brother 11 - Part 6: Natalie discussion: Archive through September 22, 2009 users admin

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Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 9:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Natalie is actually 24, but I know many 18-year olds who are much more savvy, smart, able to read people and have more life-experience. The whole "I am 18 lie" was silly

Idolworship
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05-07-2003

Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 1:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Idolworship a private message Print Post    
Has Natalie been seen, in Las Vegas? I've not seen any pictures of her:-(

Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 1:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
Word on the street is she is not coming. Some are speculating she is at the wedding she mentioned in the house.

Idolworship
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05-07-2003

Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 2:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Idolworship a private message Print Post    
I guess I wouldn't show, either, if I were Natalie.
Sometimes, it's easier to hide one's head in the sand, and not face the obvious. Much as I disliked her, in the "game," I do hope she'll be able to cope with the result of her actions.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Chippy, ITA with your 8:37 a.m. post.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 9:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
I am pretty sure Natalie lied to her boyfriend when she said she would marry him.

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 1:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
Marks, her mouth was open, her lips were moving....food or no food, it was a lie.

(Gag I have never seen anyone eat the way that girl eats.)

Jushvnfn
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07-29-2006

Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 5:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jushvnfn a private message Print Post    
To me the biggest mistake Natalie made was jumping off the log on her own.

Who does that??? lol

Mlt
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09-18-2002

Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mlt a private message Print Post    
I think that near the end, it was Nat's game to lose. But she made a few major mistakes that, in my opinion, cost her the game.

Mistake 1:
Nat wanted to know what had happened between Lydia and Jessie - so she lied to Lydia, saying that Jessie had told her all about it. I think Nat, despite what Nat says about Jessie's love being unrequited, had developed quite a crush on Jessie. So when she got the details from Lydia about what was really going on, she threw Jessie under the bus big time, causing Lydia to be mad at Jessie. Yes, Nat was loyal to Jessie in the game, but not on a personal level. So when Lydia got to the jury house and confronted Jessie with what Nat had told her, it turned Jessie against Nat. I think that's why Jessie rolled his eyes when Nat said she was loyal to the people in her alliance. I also think that is why Jessie seemed to have turned on Nat long before he found out about her engagement.

Mistake 2:
Being deliberately cruel to Michelle when, really, there was no game related reason to do it. She made it impossible for Michelle to even consider voting for her.

Mistake 3:
Not admitting her lies and how they played into her game plan to the jury. And they offered her the perfect chance to do it, too. After all, why would Michelle have asked: "Since you're 18 and supposedly engaged..." Why put in the part about her being 18? They all knew by that point that she wasn't 18. I think they wanted to see if she would own her lies. She didn't.

If she had told them: "I'm not 18, but I am engaged..." and then gone on to explain how that lie, and others, played into her strategy, I think that would have got her a lot further.

She even told more lies during questioning: lies that some people, like Jesse, knew where not true. For example, her reason for voting for Ronnie. She didn't vote for Ronnie because of her loyalty. She voted for Ronnie on the off chance that someone might throw him a sympathy vote and that Ronnie would stay. If everyone else had been voting to evict Ronnie, I don't believe for one second that Nat would have 'made herself a target' like she said she did during jury questioning.

She insulted the jury's intelligence, even at the end, and it backfired on her.

I think it was Nat's game to lose. And she did. Her comments about Jessie now, I think, are just sour grapes.

Anyway, that's my opinion.

Kdee
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07-31-2006

Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kdee a private message Print Post    
In my opinion, there wasn't really a lovable side of Natalie and the others saw that. I do believe the social part of the game is as important as the competitions and we saw that when Will won his season. She was just a mean girl. I tried to avoid her because of the way I felt when she was on the feeds. ..something sinister there. I do hope she changes because she would be a happier person...wish her no harm.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Still only one bid on Natalie's ebay stuff. Guess her fans haven't discovered the postings yet.



Cheekychops
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08-12-2005

Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 12:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheekychops a private message Print Post    
I was watching the vid of Nat's interview with Diane Henry prior to going into the house. She said that her boyfriend and her were broken up for eight months and only started seeing each other about three weeks before going into the house. Yet she never mentioned this after the game was over. WTH is up with that? Maybe that is why she was so shocked he proposed?

Skylar47
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08-24-2004

Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 2:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skylar47 a private message Print Post    
I watched Natalies interview with ED and she told him that she wanted to go to Vegas...so BB or promoters didn't offer Natalie tickets? Kevin so wanted to go also..Were they so against N/K going to wrap party..I know people are in love with the Jeff and Jordan show but i think its sad that the final 3 and final 2 didn't get tickets like lots that went to the party!!

I didn't like Natalie but i do think its sad that she wanted to go but no one cared enough to fill her in on it...poor Kevin got over looked also!

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 2:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Skylar, elsewhere on the board it's been posted that Natalie wanted to fly out of Arizona rather than LA, and her demands could not be accommodated. I don't know why Kevin didn't go. There was a problem with booking Michele's flight as well, but that got resolved.

Nick
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07-31-2004

Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 2:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nick a private message Print Post    
maybe nat will be offered a tampon ad..

Needlenose
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09-16-2005

Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 9:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Needlenose a private message Print Post    
Mlt, Wow, I do like your breakdown of Nat's mistakes . . . Just like I saw it, but you expressed it so well . . . I kept wondering what the advantage of trashing, and being cruel to Michelle was for Natalie . . . I was so sad when she started calling Jessie names in her interviews and I also thought "sour grapes" and even more of the bitterness of a loser in a love triangle (even though she brought on the loss) I always thought she had a real crush on him . . . I pray that she will get into the Word and truly become the person that God created her to be . . .

Skylar47
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08-24-2004

Monday, September 21, 2009 - 6:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skylar47 a private message Print Post    
I watched one of her interviews..Diane Henrys i think..Where Diane looked at her Twistie and remarked on her engagement and Natalie said the real one is at home and you better believe its a BIG one...This girl sure does like to brag like a Kid in grade school...lol

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, September 21, 2009 - 6:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
On the ring being at home, I call liarliar. Trust me, if there was a ring- a BIG ring she would have made him bring it. If nothing else she would have had someone Fed Ex it to her. She lies a lot, remember and it doesn't seem to e confined to the house game play.

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Monday, September 21, 2009 - 6:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
the reason I heard Nat didn't go to vegas was she demanded that she be allowed to fly from some place other than what was being offered! I think they hosts of the Vegas bash were paying if they flew from right after the finale! And she wanted to maybe fly from her home town or somewhere else, Not sure!
Not clear on why Kevin chose not to, but from what I heard listening to dif houseguest chatter, Even Jessie in Vegas Butted heads with the people putting it on, and was more or less told he would get no special treatment!

Grendelsmom
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07-31-2005

Monday, September 21, 2009 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grendelsmom a private message Print Post    
I would think it'd cost less to fly from Phoenix to Vegas or at least the same as from LA to Vegas. The Phoenix to Vegas flight runs several times a day and costs (or used to) only about $100.

Sincebb1
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08-22-2005

Monday, September 21, 2009 - 11:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sincebb1 a private message Print Post    
Grendelsmom-if you book your flight 3 weeks ahead it cost $108 from California to Vegas round trip plus fees etc. I was going to go to the Bash in Vegas. When I looked on Southwest to book a fight it was $154 each way, plus taxes. It came to about $337 for one person round trip! And you had to fly really early or late in the afternoon because all the flights were taken. That might explain why Kevin and Nat (other than her being difficult) and almost Michele, did not make it.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Monday, September 21, 2009 - 10:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
One can also drive to Vegas pretty easily from either LA or Arizona, sometimes in less time than it takes to get to the airport, hassle oneself through security and get to one's destination ...

Sincebb1
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08-22-2005

Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 2:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sincebb1 a private message Print Post    
That is true. I am lucky...live right next to the airport. I get the boarding pass the night before online and then I show up 30 minutes before the flight (even though you are supposed to go earlier). It takes about an hour for the flight. So one and half hours total travel time. If I drive when there is no traffic... 3 and a half hours. That Sat. with the fight, the concerts etc. the freeway was packed. It would have taken 4 and a half hours. It would have been worth it to fly except for the price!

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 2:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
Nat could have driven, as others did.

She didn't.

Who is the diva?

Chima was able to get there on her own.

Nat is too embarassed to be seen in public. (Rotten tomatoes await her.)

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 2:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
Oh, and why should BB pay for numerous airfares? If Nat chose to go home, that is her airfare.

O.K. final two, maybe more accomodations than one airfare.

I don't think Nat wanted to be there. I think she learned of her internet hate and went into hiding.