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Stormie
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03-01-2007

Friday, August 28, 2009 - 10:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
In mythology, at the bottom of Pandora's Box was hope. Does the key that Jeff found represent hope? And if it does, does that hope represent the POV? Just a thought, bc the HGs seem to think there is more to it than there was. I hope not, lol. I was also thinking Kevin released the seven deadly sins, first being greed, but I don't know what that would have to do with PB.

Carochar
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07-25-2005

Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 7:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carochar a private message Print Post    
So do you think that PB is on-going and they'll go through the sins one-by-one? There was apparently lots of cash for greed so there could be lots of food for gluttony ... hey, when do we get to lust?!?

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
I don't think it was the 7 deadly sins in the box....

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Pandora's box

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For other uses, see Pandora's box (disambiguation).

"Pandora" by Jules Joseph Lefebvre

In Greek mythology, Pandora's box is the large jar (πιθος pithos) carried by Pandora (Πανδώρα) that unleashed many evils on mankind – ills, toils and sickness – and hope.[1]

The original Greek word used was pithos which is a large pot which could be as large as a small human. It was used for storage of wine or provisions, for example, for ritual purposes as a human's grave.[2][3] In the case of Pandora, this jar may have been made of clay for use as storage as in the usual sense, or, instead, of bronze metal as an unbreakable prison.[4]

The mistranslation of "lupus" as "box" is usually attributed to the 16th century humanist Erasmus of Rotterdam when he translated Hesiod's tale of Pandora into Latin. Hesiod's pithos refers to a storage jar for oil or grain. Erasmus, however, translated pithos into the Latin word pyxis, meaning "box".[5] The phrase "Pandora's box" has endured ever since. This misconception was further backed by Dante Gabriel Rossetti's painting Pandora.[6]
Opening of the "box"

After Prometheus' theft of the secret of fire, Zeus ordered Hephaestus to create the woman Pandora as part of the punishment for mankind. Pandora was given many seductive gifts from Aphrodite, Hermes, Hera, Charites, and Horae (according to Works and Days). For fear of additional reprisals, Prometheus warned his brother Epimetheus not to accept any gifts from Zeus, but Epimetheus did not listen, and married Pandora. Pandora had been given a large jar and instruction by Zeus to keep it closed, but she had also been given the gift of curiosity, and ultimately opened it. When she opened it, all of the evils, ills, diseases, and burdensome labor that mankind had not known previously, escaped from the jar, but it is said, that at the very bottom of her box, there lay hope.[7]

There is no reason to think Pandora acted out of malice in opening the jar, for she was exercising her curiosity, and when she saw what was let out of it, she quickly closed it.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora's_box

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
Thank you SanFran, very interesting, I was too too lazy to look it up myself.

Mary1971
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07-28-2009

Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mary1971 a private message Print Post    
OMG!! Maybe there's hope for Jeff since he got the key & opened the box??? Please let it be!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 2:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Do we know anything about the box other than Jeff got a key? If it was for the HOH per ALison why would Jeff get a key?

Do we find out this Sunday?

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 2:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
Pamy, no new info on the feeds yet. Sowry.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
From what I gather, Kevin chose to unlock Pandora's Box, then was locked to something, but during the money "gathering," Jeff found the key, which must have had instructions, and then found Kevin and unlocked him and let him out. I haven't heard anything, but I'm guessing we should be seeing the whole thing Sunday.

I thought of the seven deadly sins bc they had used it in BBUK a few seasons ago, which is neither here nor there, lol, greed got me thinking. It seems there should be more. What were the alien-like faces in the mirror? Was that just about the morph competition? Are the evils representative of ED? Too many questions, maybe it's done.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 3:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Stormie....the morph comp had the HGs faces morphed together into alien faces. And they wore some sort of space suit. And spun on some sort of disc. So, it was alien related.

I think we'll see the Pandora's Box stuff on Sunday.

I don't understand the evils representative of ED question. Do you mean Evel Dick?
I think the point of the Pandora's Box thing was GREED. And I don't think it has fully played out yet, as the HGs are not even sure of just how much money each of them collected and whether or not the key and the person who unlocked Kevin even comes into play.

But Julie didn't say the Pandora's Box comp was game changing. AG said something about it having some responsibility for the HOH.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Thank you Bee, I was just randomly thinking of possibilities, Evel Dick I thought might be a moderator of something. Maybe the change or the responsibilities is for the next HOH, not this one. Sunday should be an interesting episode. And I did read on another thread that the DR told Michelle that Pandora's Box had no bearing on the POV, so, yeah.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 3:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Stormie...I think his "responsibility" as HOH was to decide whether to have himself handcuffed or not. Whether to take something for himself...or for the whole house. But until it's actually shown, it's all just speculation.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 4:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Oh, thanks Bee, good speculation, though, that makes sense if he chose all or himself. The show should be interesting, I read poor Kevin was screaming up storm to be let out, lol.

Laurellee
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08-03-2009

Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 5:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Laurellee a private message Print Post    
Sanfranjoshfan I also looked it up there, Notably Hope was in the bottom of box, I think its already been unleashed in house and we have the hope it will turn out right.

Biginjapan
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07-23-2005

Monday, August 31, 2009 - 8:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biginjapan a private message Print Post    
Wow...if Jeff got a POV that would be huge.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, August 31, 2009 - 8:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Julieboo...Jeff IS going home this week. At the moment.

Both Natalie and Kevin said, "He Gone."

However, Jeff intends to try to work it so that he stays.
I don't think it's going to happen and both Natalie and Kevin have strongly discussed how much of a threat his is in competitions.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Monday, August 31, 2009 - 8:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
And not only that, but Kevin was furious that Jeff wouldn't go for the plan to get Michelle to use veto on Jeff and get Mich out. He said then if Jeff came to him and said he wanted to stay, he wouldn't keep him.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Monday, August 31, 2009 - 8:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Wow War I missed that. Kevin seriously wanted to try to dupe Michelle into pulling a Marcellas? GEEZ. And to think some folks say that Kevin never did the stuff Nat has. OH MY! I respect Jeff for not doing lowering himself to that type of play. And we all know he doesn't love Michelle, so it makes it all the more reason to respect Jeff.

Glad I saw this! Gives me yet another reason why I still prefer Jeff to so many in that house now!!!!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Thanks Bee and War!!

Idolworship
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05-07-2003

Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Idolworship a private message Print Post    
Ohhhhhhh, NOW I know why they were telling Jordon that Jeff wouldn't talk to Kevin, and ask for more time, in the house. They wanted him to grovel, so they could further push his face into their mudpile of lies and deception. Not necessary, for gameplay, but it would gladden their evil little hearts.

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
If BB dropped $10,000, The amounts given for everyone are off by $104. Minus the one in the flower pot, so $103.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Mummy...I was trying to figure that out last night.

Jeff, Jordan and Michele gave specific numbers:

3181 for Jeff
1726 for Jordan
2563 for Michele


At first, Natalie said $1800. Later she said $1900.

I thought Kevin said he got $826.

So, if you take the definate numbers:

3181
1563
1726
0826
8296

Which would mean Natalie's actual number is $1703 (because there was a dollar bill later found in the yard)

I think Natalie didn't want to be the one with the least amount of money, so she lied (gasp!) about what she actually had.

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
Sea's post in IHH says $626 for Kevin. In my calculation I took Nat's first number of $1800.

I think Nat's actual number is $1903.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 12:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Yes, I know. But I think that's incorrect. But I could be incorrect, also.

I just don't trust Natalie to give an accurate number, and I thought Kevin said $826.

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 12:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
I didn't hear them talking Bee, so I could only go by the posted numbers.

Either way she lied.

Usleopard
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08-30-2008

Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Usleopard a private message Print Post    
I don't understand how Kevin got money. I thought he was locked up the whole time.