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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Big Brother USA ARCHIVES: Big Brother 11 - Part 6: Jury votes, thoughts?: Archive through September 12, 2009 users admin

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Starman
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08-17-2009

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 12:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Starman a private message Print Post    
All the evidence ruined one of the seasons (season 2 I think??). The DR tapes were viewed which gave a completely different account of what actually happened. BB hasn't done that since. The DR is supposed to be where the players talk to us/the producers and fess up to what they're really doing. Part of the game is to figure out what the players are doing. It's like looking at the other team's handbook.

Mindeegap
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07-20-2009

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mindeegap a private message Print Post    
It's hard to say where the jury votes are going to go when we don't even know the final two yet.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 4:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Starman,

That was season 3 when Lisa won out over Danielle who a lot of people think should have one. Probably so, but I tuned in midway through the season the night that Lisa voted to have Amy come back in instead of Eric her "in the house boyfriend" as part of her gameplay and I felt she should win from that point on. I didn't know anything about the first part of the season until a couple years later when I bought the season 3 DVD and I still root for Lisa every time. LOL

But because (drat I can see him in my mind but can't remember name, Danielle called him the Devil) called all of the jury up because he didn't like Danielle calling him the Devil and talked them all into voting Lisa...well all but Jason who stuck by Danielle to the bitter end! LOL

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 7:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Well, now that we know more about the final showdown I think Natalie has lesser chance to be in F2 than Jordan or Kevin are.

So, if Kevin and Natalie are F2
Kevin wins with America's vote for sure (I voted for Kevin).

If Kevin and Jordan are F2
Jordan wins with America's vote for sure (I voted for Kevin)

If Jordan and Natalie are in F2
Jordan wins with America's vote for sure (I voted for Jordan)

Seems Natalie stands to lose 3rd.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Kevin vs Natalie: Kevin wins 6:1, 5:2 or 4:3
(Kev: Lydia, Russell, Jeff, Viewers; Nat: Jesse; Unsure: Jordan, Michelle)

Kevin vs Jordan: probably Kevin wins but close
(Kev: Jessie, Lydia, Russell; Jor: Jeff; Unsure: Nat, Michelle, viewers)

Natalie vs Jordan: Jordan wins 4:3 to 6:1
(Nat: Jessie; Jor: Lydia, Russell, Jeff, viewers; Unsure: Michelle, Kevin)

I think Kevin wins whoever he takes, but is safest with Natalie. Jordan should take Natalie as she'll probably lose against Kevin. Natalie loses whoever she takes.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 9:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Lainee... that would by Roddy that Danielle called the devil

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Natalie loses whoever she takes.

Except Natalie doesn't get to choose to take anybody! Heehee!!

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I have no idea how anyone is going to vote, except Jeff will vote for Jordan and Natalie will vote against whoever throws her out.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Thank you, Bonbon! I just watched all my DVD's back at the beginning of BB this year and my poor wittle brain just wasn't coming up with Roddy! I even went and looked at the case...no names but Roddy sure looked familiar! ROFL

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 11:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Except Natalie doesn't get to choose to take anybody! Heehee!!

Heehee indeed :-) I should have said whoever takes her. And hopefully neither of them will!

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
I'm with GAL except I'm not even sure Natalie has the stomach to vote Jordan. I just don't know. But, yeah, Jeff will vote Jordan even though he may think someone played much better.

This "first ever" final eviction just before the vote could really have an impact IMO especially if it ends in a tie and America steps in with the popularity vote. Not sure how to feel about it yet. The other jurors have had time to compare notes and such and this last evictee gets none of that. Seems unfair some to me.

Jagger
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08-07-2002

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 12:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jagger a private message Print Post    
Right now I think the votes would go as follows
J/N Jordan gets Jeff, Lydia, Michele
Natalie gets Jessie, Russell, Kevin, America votes for Jordan
Jordan Wins
J/K Jordan gets Jeff, Natalie
Kevin gets Lydia, Russell,
Michele and Jessie are wild cards, if they vote on who they think played the better game they will go to Kevin, Which Michele has said she'd vote for who played the best game.
Jordan gets Americas vote.
Kevin wins
K/N Kevin gets Lydia, Russell, Michele
Natalie gets Jeff, Jordan, Jessie America votes Kevin
Kevin wins.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 4:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
It seemed to me it happened in the past that the Jury does not like to give the big prize money to a player (Jordan in this case) who has another player in the Jury (Jeff) who could benefit from the prize money as well. I remember there was a reasoning in the past... "If we give the money to so and so it's like giving the money to the other so and so... " I don't remember wich season it was but there was this kind of reasoning.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 5:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
One of the things that stood out with this jury is that once they've left the game, they seem to have left any bad will behind. I think Natalie would have spoilt that, so I'm glad that (hoping she gets to the jury) she won't have time to influence them.

But I don't see them having too much of a bitter session whoever the final two are, and I don't see them denying Jordan because of Jeff.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 5:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
jessie has indicated at least twice his vote will be going to the player he thinks played the better game (i'm assuming he defines that as winning challenges).

once during his interview with Ross. another time, his comment to Jeff (right after Jeff entered the jury house) in the kitchen.

Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 5:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kminfinity a private message Print Post    
Spunky, I think there was some talk about not giving Drew the money because he might benefit Diane...but it was just talk... I don't think anyone based their vote on that, and he won against Cowboy (4-3 ?). Other than S5 I can't think of a season where this was a factor.

I think this argument has been used in Survivor a time or two, as well, but again, maybe just as a comment thrown out there and not used as a serious criteria for anyone's vote.

Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kminfinity a private message Print Post    
One question I have that relates to an earlier spculation...and now takes on greater significance with Kevin as a possible/likely F2.

What does Jessie think about Kevin? Jessie seemed dismissive of Kevin in the House, dissed Kevin on his way out the door, and rumors have suggested Jessie is homophobic... (Please, I'm not saying he is, just wondering, based on others' interpretation of things.)

So, even if we *give* Kevin high marks for playing a good game, will Jessie think so?

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Kmin

If Kevin wants to win the money he better take Natalie. He's making a big mistake in taking Jordan. Jordan has more Jury votes plus America's vote. Kevin against Jordan may only have Lydia's vote.
The DR is not giving him any more hints, since they want Jordan to win the money.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 7:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
kmin, early on Jessie didn't like Kevin because he wasn't playing a good game (again, to Jessie i think that just means winning challenges). Kevin started playing a "better" game.

Jeff mentioned Kevin in the jury house. jessie even made a comment to jeff indicating he might have voted for Jeff (if final 2) because of winning challenges.

for jessie, i think it just comes down to that.

eta: i haven't read any comments about jessie being homophobic.

Iheartkaysar
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08-16-2005

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 7:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iheartkaysar a private message Print Post    
I don't think there's any proof that Jessie doesn't like homosexuals. There is proof that he doesn't really like anyone who's not Jessie.

Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 8:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kminfinity a private message Print Post    
There is proof that he doesn't really like anyone who's not Jessie.



Iheartkaysar
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08-16-2005

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 8:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iheartkaysar a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Km. I think that's the first time one of my comments got a laughing face!

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 8:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
iheart, just so you know, i was about to post same as kmin..but, didn't.

next time i will, and for now:

:>)

thanks for the laugh!

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 10:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Spunky, you're thinking of Season 9 when the jury didn't want to give Ryan the money because he said he was going to buy an engagement ring for Jen, and they hated her. But they were in a relationship before they came into the house. Jeff and Jordan are not at the point where anyone should be worrying about Jeff getting control of Jordan's money. (Besides, I think people in the jury like Jeff for the most part.)

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 6:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Watching Jeff going to the JH, as they're seeing the disc Jeff brought showing the S'mores competition where Natalie was slowly waddling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovJRtpASMto

Jessie said "She [Natalie] didn't even try!"
look at his hand gestures

Jeff said "No, she quit."

Lydia said "She's relying on Kevin."

IMO, I think Jessie is going to factor in the ability to work at challenges, plus Lydia has already filled his ear with Natalie smack stories. The one HOH comp Natalie won [tape that Michele will soon be bringing] was a silly non type of challenge. I SURE hope Michele's tape includes the Nat wearing crown & bathrobe & scepter!

I don't think Natalie has a clear shot for Jessie's vote. I think he's going for who won comps and actually won games. He doesn't want to come out of this looking like a chump.