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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 9:10 am
When Natalie answered Lydia's question, I immediately thought she'd lost both Lydia and Jessie's vote. Her answer was such a load, and you could see by the look on their faces that they knew she was full of it.
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Lillian
Member
07-29-2009
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 9:13 am
Wilsonatmd, I think you are missing a key point - for Jessie, it did matter in the end. He wanted to vote with the winner, not with the loser, and he didn't want America to have the final say.
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Kaykohl
Member
05-10-2004
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 9:18 am
I think he decided he couldn't support all of Natalie's lies. While he was still in the game he wanted to come clean about a lie he had told and Natalie stopped him.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 10:16 am
Have not read to the end of this thread yet, but this explanation resonated with what Jessie said in his WeLoveBigBrother backyard interview. I didn't know what he was talking about when he said it, that he thought his alliance was made up of people who really wanted to win, and he had been wrong about one of them (Natalie) who didn't want to win. That hot chocolate competition was exactly what he was taking about. Thanks for the insight, Cruzlvr
quote:Cruzlvr Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 5:18 am I think Jesse didn't vote for Nat because she did not try to win anything. It became obvious with the one tape he saw in the jury house of the hot chocolate comp when she threw it big time. Love or hate Jesse he is a big competitor and to see that someone didn't even try upset him. He saw that Jordan really tried at the comps. Plus the fact that her answers to the jury were obvious trying to kiss their butt rather than telling the truth (Her lies finally did her in) LOL
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Sassyza
Member
09-03-2009
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 10:32 am
In watching some of the post interviews, Natalie is convinced that Jessie didn't vote for her because he had a huge crush on her and was heart broken that she got engaged. Maybe I'm naive but I certainly don't believe it. Jessie gave some very strong and convincing reasons why he did not vote for her. I agree with the various posters here who stated Natalie lost his vote based on her answers to the Jury members - especially the answer to Lydia's question. I had to love Kevin's response to Julie when he asked her if Natalie was saying to him during the last few days that HE would get Jessie's vote. He said she did....but he thought she was lying. I think she was lying and was stunned when she didn't get his vote.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 10:42 am
For once Jessie did something that I approve of.......
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Lillian
Member
07-29-2009
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 10:47 am
Natalie's remarks just underscore that it was she who was the jealous one. Back in July, she said that Jason was her ex, or that they were on a break. If Jessie wanted to make a move, he could have, but didn't. I think she was really shocked to find that Jessie was messing around with Lydia
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Mlt
Member
09-18-2002
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 10:48 am
I wonder if it was finding out that Nat told Lydia that Jesse had told her all about what had happened between Lydia and Jesse. When he left the house, Jesse was still trying to keep their extra-curricular activities a secret from the viewing audience. Nat's lie about knowing pretty much put an end to that.
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Lillian
Member
07-29-2009
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 10:51 am
Mlt - I don't believe that Jessie told Natalie anything. Lydia was the talker in that relationship - she had already told Kevin, and when she told Natalie, I believe that Natalie pretended to already know. AFAIK, Jessie told no one in the game, and has admitted nothing when questioned upon leaving. Only after they showed some footage during the finale is he now saying - graciously I might add - that he does like Lydia, but AFAIK he has never confirmed their relationship is sexual.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 10:53 am
I also think it was extremely tacky of CBS to show "tent city" last night during the show.
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Doublethink
Member
08-23-2006
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 10:59 am
Lexie - that' why I could never do BB - AG loves to humiliate folks. Her clips of Boogie and Erika during All Stars was also extremely tacky and hurtful.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 11:09 am
He's a piece-a-work. I agree with most of the assessments as to why he voted like he did. He couldn't stand that N stayed and he was booted and he had plenty of time to let that simmer. Add to that, Lydia shows up and tells him Nat dissed him deluxe AND N got engaged. Yes, I believe (especially after reading his blog) that he had feelings for Natalie and she blew him off. I think he LOVED her get-up at the nom ceremony and I think she sent it as a sort of gift to the other showman that wasn't in the house anymore. And Lydia really should get some type of award for her performance last night. Like maybe the stuff left in the bottom of the cat liter box after you dump it out wrapped in a nice box. She made me cringe more than once. And she voted with her neanderthal... period. I'd love to hear why although doubt I'd believe her anyways. Jesse said jump and she said how high. Ick. Had these two losers voted for game instead of their own sorry reasons, Natalie would have won this and America's vote wouldn't have meant a thing... which is how it should be IMO. And shame on "production" for flaunting these two and their sex games. Ick again. There were so many things better than that to be outed in the short period they had and we had to watch tenting? Eww. Honestly, I feel bad for Natalie. Yeah, she disgusts me at the same time and for a million different reasons but I have to say, she outplayed Jordan by miles and miles and at the end of the day lost because of her strongest ally in the game. I think she actually believed their friendship was real and was special and I'd guess she doesn't build those type of relationships easily at all. When she finds out Chima wasn't for real either, I worry for her. Well, not worry really... just feel bad for her. It's just the human in me. lol
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Lillian
Member
07-29-2009
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 11:14 am
Chippy I disagree that Lydia voted for Jordan just to go with Jessie. I think she really dislikes Natalie, and saw it as a way to say "screw you, I got the man." I also think she wanted one last shot at presenting the persona she has created for herself, and thus the remark about liking blondes. I too recall Jessie's words in his blog, but that was when he thought she was a worthy competitor. A fellow athlete, competitive, in it to win. Any attraction or affection he might have felt for her went out the window when he realized she was using him and others to get ahead, rather than competing for herself (a value central to Jessie's beliefs). I don't believe he came onto her at all - never saw the slightest sign of it. Just more of Natalie's lies and after the fact spinning of everyone, including herself. At the same time, I would have rather Natalie won than Jordan, because she played hard the entire game - just not the same kind of game Jessie was looking for in a team mate.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 11:16 am
While the two gals were answering their jury questions I noticed one huge difference in how they described their gameplay. In a nutshell: Natalie: I hid behind strong players. Jordan: I did it on my own. Well, there ya go!! Jordan deserved to win for that alone in Jesse's eyes.
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Chitchat58
Member
07-25-2008
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 11:23 am
Jesse earned my respect with his vote, not only did he see what a lousy competitor Nat was, he saw her as a liar and a manipulator. I believe Jesse respects the game and voted for the best player.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 11:28 am
I guess we'll be on opposite sides on this one, Lillian. lol The interview I watched with Jesse was pretty boneheaded. Apparently Jordan rocked the bb game because she won the last HOH and that's when he decided. That IMO is a bald faced LIE. He had his mind made up before finale, no doubt about it. And he has to be numero uno with his little serfs. Natalie didn't play that. Lydia did. He picks Lydia. Shocker. I can almost predict how things went between Jesse and Lydia at the JH. She goes in secretly thrilled to pieces to see her mancrush but has to act all pouty and mad about things her and N discussed. That lasts all of 30 seconds. Jesse asks about Nat (when he left, they were fine from what I saw) which pisses off "the other woman" and she decides to say whatever she needs to in order to make Jesse question Nat, even dislike her so she has his full attention, needy thing that she is. It had to be Lydia that turned Jesse off to Nat- that along with the engagement news. Nat probably also shared some Nat moves that Jesse would have normally been proud of but hey, ego jumped in and was like, whoa... she really didn't need me for anything. I'll show her. Natalie and Lydia were pretty tight before Lydia left (they were pallbearers at the funeral fer gawd's sake). Lydia has zero in common with Jordan and I can't recall much of any interaction there- nothing positive anyways. In fact, I think Lydia would dispise anything Jordan-like. AND Jordan nommed her and she was evicted thanks to her. And yet, she votes her to a win. Tammy Wynette comes to mind... stand by your man. No way was she gonna vote different than Mr. Pectacular. No way.
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Sassyza
Member
09-03-2009
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 11:43 am
yes...but now Natalie is saying her tears were fake...she only cried because Chima and Lydia cried. Someone reminded her that she was still crying in the DR.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 11:50 am
Of course she cried and she didn't say they were fake, she said they were stepped up to match her fellow mourners and she said she indeed was upset because she lost her #1 ally and friend AND knew her butt was in a major crack IN THE GAME.
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Sassyza
Member
09-03-2009
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 11:57 am
Chippy, sorry I wasn't quoting her. It was my interpretation that she said her tears were fake and I stand by it. My problem with Natalie is once you lie lie lie...it is hard to remember the lies.
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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:22 pm
It was wonderful that she did not get her beloved Jessie's vote.
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Dfennessey
Member
07-25-2004
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:29 pm
I wonder how natalie feels about jesse now
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Reenie
Member
06-24-2006
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:33 pm
DFennessey - in one interview, she called him a "douche"...
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Kdee
Member
07-31-2006
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:45 pm
Jeff stated what many have already said about the robe and crown that Natalie wore to nominate Michelle....how ridiculous she was and that alone would cause him not to vote for Natalie. I think Natalie thought she had all these friends but they saw through her and didn't like what they saw...just like many of us did.
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Reenie
Member
06-24-2006
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:51 pm
Kdee - I had the exact same reaction as Jeff when she wore that getup to evict Michelle. I was absolutely aghast at her "poor sportsmanship" and poor attitude.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:55 pm
And Jesse would have LOVED that kind of showmanship. Uh, this is the guy that ripped off one shirt to expose another when he was put on the block as a replacement and it said, the man, the myth, the legend. If he says he didn't like Nat's get-up, he's lying. And she didn't give a flyin' flip about what Jeff thought cause she knew he'd never get his vote. And she was right. He is a douche.
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