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Muffin
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08-29-2007

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Muffin a private message Print Post    
They did vote with emotion. The jurors all have big egos, and to be consistently lied to by Natalie and feeling dumb for believing her lies was too much for them. Kevin voted for her game play, but he was also part of the lies. But to be lied to for 2 1/2 months is a hard pill to swallow.

Doublethink
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08-23-2006

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Doublethink a private message Print Post    
Near perfect game - dressing up in a bathrobe, with crown scepter etc., and then insulting a person who is going to be on the jury is playing "near perfect." Please, Natalie did so many things to piss the jury members off. The game isn't just to get to the end, but you have to get there without unnecessarily making jurors angry. I'm sorry, but Natalie blew her game all on her own without any help from anyone.

Fredi
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04-01-2008

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fredi a private message Print Post    
12- I tend to agree with you . If it makes you feel better, there are many that said they could not stand the thought of Natalie getting anywhere near the money and could not stand the thought of her getting to F2. How she spends her money, what bills she pays, or if she has anything left is way beside the point.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Chippy the first portion of her game put a target squarely on her back while she stood behind a stronger player. Thats far from perfect. She got lucky when Chima left and once again another player stepped forward and salvaged her game. Again lucky two other paranoid players were already talking about getting rid of their own. Lucky that Kevin got that hoh and veto. It's far from flawless it's called floating with a big mouth suggesting she was greater then she was which was a HUGE flaw in her game. She read this house wrong. Thats part of it. Her approach even while in final 2 was to claim honesty which her whole game hinged on dishonesty. It was a huge fail with this house and I saw it coming. I'm still not understanding why she lied as much as she did unless it was a cover for her floating routine just in case she was called a floater. I mean she was like a little dog that barks louder then the more scary big dog that could actually do the real damage. Jordan and her were equally matched in game play. Jordan decided to win some comps at the end and along with some of Natalies sloppy play she lost some votes.

12player34
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08-12-2009

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send 12player34 a private message Print Post    
Chippy, the Jessie bashing definitely hurt her chances because Lydia relayed it back to Jessie and made her own spin to it. The day after Jessie was evicted, Natalie got started. It seemed she only needed a few hours to get over him and move on while Lydia was acting like a widow until she finally left. But, I do agree most of the bashing was game. She wanted Jeff and Jordan to believe that she wasn't all that upset Jessie left and she wanted to bond with Lydia over something I guess.

I also believe how when she won HOH and dedicated to Chima pissed him off as well along with her other many moments of giving Chima shout-out's and not mentioning Jessie.

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
Refeeds on Real. Russell HOH.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
I was never concerned if Natalie got some money. From a game point stand it was always wiser for Jordan to take Natalie to the finals.

Fivel
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07-26-2005

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fivel a private message Print Post    
Ok, I have followed the links to Ed's site but can only see 5 interviews. Any ideas?

Muffin
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08-29-2007

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Muffin a private message Print Post    
Jessie did express interest in Natalie during his interviews, so he must have felt like a real idiot when he heard about the engagement. He had already told America that he liked her more than a friend. His ego is so big, he can barely make it through the door. Of course, he will never admit that. And as a game player, I don't think he appreciated the fact that she just didn't try during the comps.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Well if you admit the bashing and gushing over Chima was part of the reason Jessie didn't vote for her even though we probably will never know then there are a few other things she did that just were wrong. It all adds up to EGO if that is the case which I do think it was ego with him but it was also relegating her REAL game to nothing but what she really was. A big mouthed floater that tried to make her game bigger then it was and in the end the other girl beat her to the finish line so he gave the other floater the edge.

Chere
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08-10-2005

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
One last thing before I go to bed.

Jordan may always be considered one of the worst winners of BB, but she is definitely my favorite and most satisfying. Her win was so amazingly random that it can never be duplicated.

But what I love most about Jordan, she had know idea who Evel Dick was when he interviewed her and for that alone she is my #1 favorite HG ever! For serious.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Fivel they just finished so probably still uploading the rest. Just a guess.

Bbnut
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06-12-2006

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnut a private message Print Post    
I think she played great for never watching the show before she got recruited.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
LOL Chere I caught Jordan saying that as well to him.

I said on Sunday if Jordan won the final HOH and took Natalie I would have voted for her over Natalie. To me the floating was too similar so whoever walked over the finish line themselves would have gotten my vote.

Jordan was not the best player in the game but obviously one of the luckiest. I think Kevin and Michelle would have been the best final 2.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Good points C1... I'm rethinking near-perfect and actually giving that to Kevin. And I agree, C1. Jesse's ego is on 18X/day feedings just like his muscle bound carcass. I'm glad she got at least 50K out of it. I still wish Kevin would have put on his thinking cap and not gotten so flustered with the questioning. I think he knew Jordan wouldn't take him all along.

And I was so disappointed in Natalie's answers to the jury. She totally missed her opportunity to tell them how hard she worked each and every one of them including their vote.

Lydia voting for Jordan just sleighs me. She really doesn't wear manslave well at all. Ick.

And MY GAWD, Jeff, take whoever the hell you want to Hawaii. You notice that even under that kind of tremendous pressure, he still didn't commit. Speaks volumes IMO.

Doublethink
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08-23-2006

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 11:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Doublethink a private message Print Post    
I just saw this posted - interview with Kevin

http://www.welovebigbrother.com/2009/09/15/kevin-campbell-big-brother-11-finale-backyard-interview/#more-2199

12player34
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08-12-2009

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send 12player34 a private message Print Post    
C1mag, Natalie was right though. I watched from the beginning and Natalie was a bigger player than Jessie. She was the one who wanted Lydia gone the 1st week then had Jessie changed the target to Braden. And then she was the one who bonded with Chima enough for her to get close with Russell and Jessie that week as well. But, he probably doesn't see it like that. The thing is, he was one of the main ones always running and hiding out from fights when Natalie fought ALOT of his battles.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Don't worry, Chere. They have the script now so yeah, it can be duplicated in a New York minute.

And C1... luckiest is dead on. She really should throw some dollars in a slot while she's in Vegas.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
hahaha Chippy I know! If Jeff ends up in Hawaii with anyone else he's gonna get the hell beat out of him :-) Poor guy. They need to back off on him about that.

I will agree Kevins game was almost flawless. Huge question mark will always remain if she should have evicted Jordan instead of Michelle and seen how that played out.

Chere
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08-10-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
Even as a huge J/J fan, I'm glad Jeff did not commit to taking Jordan on the trip in front of a live audience. It's really none of our business who he decides to take. Plus he needs to make sure Jordan wasn't playing him in the house.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
12 anyone would be wise to avoid fights. It shoves a target right on the person. She was an idiot for doing that.

Fivel
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07-26-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fivel a private message Print Post    
Thanks C1mag. I'll keep checking.

Fredi
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04-01-2008

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fredi a private message Print Post    
C1- I didn't have you in mind when I posted. I consider you a fair critic of the game. I just hope some people can regard the game more next year instead of letting the personalities rule their view of things. If all the voting were up to the viewers, I would have to stop watching. It's the reason I couldn't watch BB1.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Double... While I agree that was over the top, I think she did it because:
1. She'd already alienated Michelle and didn't feel like she could even buy her vote much less work it.
2. She played the rest of the jury like a fiddle. It was amazing to watch IMO.
3. She knew the jury would see it and thought they had enough disdain for M that it would work in her favor and at the end of the day, she was the one that got out a major force.

Again, she lost the game at the hands of jurors she figured she had in her pocket. And really, she should have had them there. Lydia probably just went with along with her neanderthal man.

And Kevin, kudos for the way he went out! That has to be heartwrenching- to play his sort of game and be that close to the money and wind up with third place. OUCH.

Carry09
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08-04-2009

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carry09 a private message Print Post    
with j/j popularity this season i wouln't be suprised if bb sent them to hawaii just so they can do an update for next years show. not saying its right just what it is.