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C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Did any of you hear after Dick was finished talking to all of them someone saying to Natalie Liar Liar pants on fire? LOL It was a comical moment.

Poor girl thinks she has double the amount of positive fans vs her haters. 12 you and I need to have met this girl before she tried all this and explained if Ugly is your game plan be prepared women who play this ugly don't have too many fans afterwards. I could try to explain it to her but she's not going to get it other than she needs to be prepared and Dick was honest with her. He told you Natalie you have haters. He didn't say much about fans LOL

Doublethink
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08-23-2006

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Doublethink a private message Print Post    
Chippy - you and I are never going to agree on this season - lol. You see no good in Jordan's game, and I don't see much good in Natalie's. I'll give you this - Natalie can lie like a trooper.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
I agree that you and I are never going to agree so see, you're wrong again. lol

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Fredi I know where you are coming from :-) I love both your's and 12's thought's and opinions. I love every ones as well. I just feel in Natalies case she needed to do a much thorough study of the game before she implemented some of her game. For example when you say she should have had the jury in her pocket. It's a risky move to be ingratiating to one player thinking the others are really in your pocket. She forgot at least 2 on that Jury knew that the whole Michelle is the devil thing was fabricated so when you step out of the game perhaps that jury now had "remorse" for being a part of that type of game. I wish she would have studied on how females are viewed in this game and I would have appreciated her game a bit better. She's going to try and sell her game as hardcore but she's going to meet resistance because for some like me I just see a a floater with a big mouth who got lucky to get to the end and get some big money. Didn't read her fellow players correctly and they decided to give the bigger money to the other floater LOL She's not gonna like that.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
I think Natalie must have grown up hard and hung up wet. Everything about her screams it. Emotionally, she's about 14 yo IMO. Maybe a wise mentor will get ahold of her soon. Jordan too. lol

12player34
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08-12-2009

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send 12player34 a private message Print Post    
C1mag, there is no wya you can say Jordan or Natalie were equal in gameplay. Even if Natalie hid behind people, it was PRE-PLANNED. Watch her DR's. She would tell you if it was her intention to hide behind someone for the moment to take the target off of her. I know she did it with Kevin. As soon as he won HOH she started saying how many comps he has won and that he had 'better stick to the plan" etc. With me, more than anything, it's intent. If Natalie was hiding behind someone, you better believe she planned it out that way. She had an MO for everything she did in that game. Jordan hid behind Jeff the entire game, had rigging in her favor, and her hiding behind Jeff was not pre-planned. It just happened that way. We never got DR's with her saying she wanted to hide behind Jeff because she knew he'd be targeted before her, or any of that. HELL, she was begging Natalie to vote her out and keep Jeff while Natalie recovered immediately after Jessie left. So, there is no way in hell their games are even remotely equal. Because, even if Natalie's game wasn't flawless, she actually tried to play the game, strategized, and everything she did she planned out. Jordan did none of this. She would have been a fish out the water without the DR help at the end and the Coup D' Tat. Natalie overcame blatant rigging that was designed to mess her over and her alliance and she still almost won.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Obviously this season turned out well for those who wanted this to be the J show. I actually was more disappointed that Jeff got the AC money then Kevin or Michelle not winning the title LOL That man must have some serious fans.

Needlenose
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09-16-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Needlenose a private message Print Post    
Wow, that was so funny when Kevin just fondled Jordan's bottom!
I was watching ED's thingy . . .

Doublethink
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08-23-2006

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Doublethink a private message Print Post    
12 - if there was rigging for Jordan, then why did Kevin keep saying that the DR was trying to get him to evict Jordan and keep Michelle. The coup d'etat was not rigged to mess Natalie over, and in fact helped her. The "girls" were planning on getting out Jesse sooner rather than later. So getting Jesse out did not hurt her game. No one was really upset that Jesse was gone, Chima was just upset that Russell stayed.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
12 sure I can say they played the same. Hell I can say I just sprouted a third nipple on my forehead LOL

Natalie could say all she wanted pimping her game but it doesn't mean the same floating game wasn't just as planned but with less pimping going on. Jordan in fact pointed that out to the jury her game included riding coattails, using people, and strategically getting others evicted for her own game and no one elses which also suggested she was constantly thinking of herself and not Jeffs game. It was the same game. Just that the little woman yapped more about it like a chihuahua

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
The only person that the CDE helped was Jeff. Jordan became the secondary beneficiary to it as his teammate. Once Jeff was gone I believe Jordan would have once again been seen as low man to worry about later and something else would have happened that I saw in survivor. The women would have instinctively started eating each other alive and kevin would have sat back wisely and let it happen.

Doublethink
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08-23-2006

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Doublethink a private message Print Post    
Jordan's interview is up at WeLoveBigBrother.

Fredi
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04-01-2008

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fredi a private message Print Post    
C1- That must have been someone else that said Nat should have had the jury in her pocket. What I posted last night was that I would have to play the game balls out and the jury be damned. If I had the good luck to win HoH in the first weeks, J/J would be the first two I would have nominated and I'd tell the others why and suggest, if they were smart and wanted to have a chance to win- these two need to be gotten rid of even before Chima and Ronnie (as annoying as they were.) I'm always surprised by who they leave in the house.

Needlenose
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09-16-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Needlenose a private message Print Post    
Is there another site that is showing after the show, one with Chelsia?

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Fredi it may have been someone else with the Jury in her pocket comment. Ok found it. It was my bud Chippy :-) Sorry!!

I totally agree with you about playing balls out but then it's different for what each persons definition is of playing on that level. I think I said before you have to get a feel for the entire climate to know what would work and what wouldn't.

I think I have an answer as to why some just don't come right out after certain players early on. You do that too fast and guess who the target lands on after those others are gone?

It starts clicking right towards you. Before going after the so called king and queen of an alliance you have to first establish a few players to put in front of you to be pecked off before it gets to you. This game has to be played slowly in who you do target early on. Midway through you take your first swipe at one of the strongest players but prior to that you weed out their followers.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Neddle sorry to say I don't know. Jokers was doing Dicks. If Beek were here she could probably find them.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
I have to say I did not like that this group let Jessie stay in the house for as long as he did. Now for me that would have been my first target but AG set it up so that it was almost impossible to get at him. He got the first HOH so he is safe. It gave him enough time to pull in an alliance so that not only was he safe should an athlete get HOH early on but a few others would keep him safe. I found that a very whacked choice by the house. Great to have lovers of this game in the house but not the ones that are enamored with past players.

Doublethink
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08-23-2006

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Doublethink a private message Print Post    
Needle - http://www.welovebigbrother.com - has posted some interviews - Kevin, Jordan and now Natalie

Fredi
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04-01-2008

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fredi a private message Print Post    
Well I would be out early in the game C1. I could not sit by while the J/J romances of this world and the Maggie madness was just allowed to continue on in the game. Not that I disliked Jordon but this should not be a romantic comedy ala a Jennifer Anisten movie. Enough!

12player34
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08-12-2009

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send 12player34 a private message Print Post    
C1mag, I just disagree that there games were similar is all. Natalie was much more astute. And, as I said, Jordan begged Natalie to vote her out and to keep Jeff. Natalie would have never done that. And, I don't care what Jordan now says after she had days to think about it, but at the time, while aligned with Jeff, I don't think for a second she was saying, "Oh, it's good I am aligned with Jeff, because he's strong and if something happens, he will leave before me so I will just continue hiding behind him." She never looked at it like that. Jeff just happened to be her BFF and she liked spending time with him.

And, it's not about Natalie pimping her game. In the DR, she just told them how she was setting Kevin up to put the blood on his hands in hopes she'd get others jury votes. AS in, INTENT, as in she planned it like this. Jordan didn't plan on or bank on Jeff being a sheild for her. It just happened like that and considering she spent 3 days trying to get herself evicted over him, I stand corrected.

Natalie had a plan and motive for everything she did in that house. Jordan didn't. Nobody can convince me otherwise, or any other rational and unbiased BB viewer. :-)

Doublethink
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08-23-2006

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Doublethink a private message Print Post    
Wow - Natalie is really delusional - lol

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
12 the thing is even if Jordan fell into her game instead of methodically planning it out she was smart enough to claim she had planned it out and who's to say those thoughts didn't run through her mind?

You are giving Natalie a lot of praise and there is no question she was THE character that kept everyone talking, but remember you are quoting a known liar that could just as easily been blowing smoke because she knew she was just floating along. Natalie did 3 things consistently well. Lie, revise, and deny. This isn't exactly the stuff for which I'd base believing what she called her game.

You could never convince me Natalies game was any more superior then just a floater with a big mouth. All bark no bite and in the end she got bitten. I think it's funny :-)

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Oh and the classic line of the night... I've been honest. Even the guy who voted for her was laughing.

12player34
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08-12-2009

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send 12player34 a private message Print Post    
C1mag, if calling Natalie a floater gets you to sleep at night, then continue on, LOL. She was the best strategist this season, but considering the players' that really isn't syaing much. I will say however, her game was a million times better than Jordan and if Natalie was a floater, she at least mapped it out while Jordan did not. I know this for a fact.

I know you are a big fan of Danielle, and LISTEN to her comments on Natalie. She even said that Natalie deserves to win hands down and said she prayed that Natalie wouldn't fall the same fate that herself, Alison and Nicole did but she thought it would. So, judging from past history, I think this is less about Natalie and more about the bitter jury who can't accept that she beat them fair and square and manipulated the crap outta all of them. I watched Kevin and Russell's interviews and they acknowledged this thoroughly.

The only people who would say that anything is similar of Jordan and Natalie's game are people who just despise Natalie is all.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 12:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Fredi you'd last. We could align and I'd tell you just be patient. Keep your enemies close and the time will come. Now individually someone like Maggie would be gone fast with me. Too much of a cult figure in the making that one was obvious. The showmance thing I could stomach but just til midway. Then we'd gett'em :-) America would hate our guts hahaha.