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Peepinagain
Member
07-23-2005
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 9:00 am
Guys it wasn't a dumb move for Jeff to get rid of Russell! Russell would've gone after Jeff if he was in Jeff's shoes, he as much said so in DR! Jeff's exit interview he talked about what he saw Russell doing in the house and he already thought Russell was preparing to go after him so Kevin coming up with the 'lie' didn't change what Jeff was already thinking. In fact when Kevin was 'lieing' to Jeff, Russell was already making plans with Michelle to get rid of Jeff at his first opportunity. Jeff knew it would be harder to get rid of him later and he had the opportunity to do it and he did it. Don't forget Russell said in his DR that if he had the opportunity to get rid of Jeff he'd do it because he considered him his only threat in the game. I truely believe that Russell would've gotten Jeff out before F4 if he had the opportunity and then everyone here would be saying Jeff shoulda gotten rid of Russell when he had the chance, why did he trust Russell? Get over it, he did what he thought was best for him in the game.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 9:11 am
Kmjm whe he sees Jordan come up after Michelle...
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 9:18 am
I don't think that will happen Spunky, but we shall see. Since I can't have a Michele and Jordan F2, I'm now hoping for Kevin and Jordan. Sadly, I think Michele is this week's target.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 4:21 pm
Guys it wasn't a dumb move for Jeff to get rid of Russell! I disagree. Russell would never have broken the F4 deal, Jeff did bc he thought Russell was going after him the next week, but he wasn't, that was a lie Kevin told. Once they all reached F4, then they would have been going after each other, not just handing it over to Jeff. Jeff seemed to think that Kevin and Natalie would do whatever he wanted to push him further in the game, which he seemed to think Russell and Michele should have done, so he chose the other side of the house, assuming he could manipulate Kevin and Natalie. If Jeff didn't break the F4 alliance up, he'd still be there and Natalie would be gone. Jeff believed the other alliance, for no other reason than childish bravado, bc nothing they told him was true.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 4:40 pm
Stormie, a very good summary on how things went on Jeff switching camps. I remember him saying even before the F4 alliance, "Never mind Kevin, we will eventually bring him over to our side, he can be swayed.." LOL The only reason I want Natalie in F2 is so that she gets GRILLED by the Jury. I hope by then many mysteries will be revealed, like the GR lie (Lydia knows) and the LML as told by Kevin and that Jeff revealing that he never overheard that R/M plotting, I hope he can tell this to Michelle.
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Rieann
Member
08-26-2006
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 4:45 pm
Someone may have mentioned it already, but our Jessie made it onto The Soup with Joel McHale again. They showed him in his purty pink star pants. Before the clip Joel said, "keep in mind he KNEW he was doing to be ON camera when he put these pants on". Then he finished it out by saying he must have bought the pants at David Lee Roth's garage sale in 1988. I love Joel and The Soup.

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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 4:51 pm
I didn't see it, Rieann, so I went and found it on youtube...I thought the Natalie part was funny, too! LMAO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xny09tpQr8g
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Rieann
Member
08-26-2006
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 4:59 pm
Thanks Naja. OMG how could I have forgotten the Natalie part?? Thanks again. 
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 7:39 pm
My DH who only watches part of BB every time it's on, knows enough about the people that he mentioned their appearance on TALK SOUP and said it was really funny!
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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 7:46 pm
LOL thanks Naja that gave me a much needed laugh
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Peepinagain
Member
07-23-2005
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 9:28 pm
Stormie ~ Watch Jeff's exit interview on The Dish! He'll describe what he saw Russell doing and was already thinking R was coming after him before K talked with him. Russell also said it himself in the DR and with Michelle! If Russell was in Jeff's position he would've gone after Jeff. After Jeff nominated N & K Russell was in DR saying he was surprised he wasn't nominated and that it was stupid of Jeff because he would've nom'd Jeff!
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Peepinagain
Member
07-23-2005
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 10:07 pm
I meant Inside Dish! ^^^^^^^
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 2:07 am
Peepin, I've seen it, I stand by my opinions. And in his interviews, Russell said he would have stuck to the F4 deal. Jeff doesn't know about the LML, nor does Russell. Russell being Joe cool guy about it in the DR, doesn't mean he liked it or agreed with it, he certainly was ticked off about it in the house. After Chima left, a bunch of things were hashed out before the F4 deal, the Jessie vote, etc., then the F4 deal happened, then Kevin approached Jeff, and Jeff and Jordan began to accuse Michele, then Russell, of the things Kevin said, then about a week later another hashout happened, then the F4 deal again. Jeff wanted Natalie to stay over Lydia, even though Natalie was Jordan's first choice. Lydia was evicted, I guess bc he had a new deal with Natalie. After F4, everyone would have gone after everyone, that was a given, but Jeff said that Michele and Russell making a F2 deal broke the F4 deal, which makes no sense, particularly since Jeff and Jordan had a F2 deal; a F2 deal is irrelevant to a F4 deal. Jeff kept changing his reasoning. Jeff is gone, he made the wrong choice, if he were still there, then this would be a very different conversation. Bottom line for me, Natalie is still there.
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Peepinagain
Member
07-23-2005
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 7:13 am
Jeff is gone but he did't make the wrong choice he just didn't win the veto, like he said. The DR's tell it all, Russell was going after Jeff and made fun of Jeff not putting him up but of course he was backdoored. Russell said he'd a done the same. Of course he was pissed he lost a chance at alot of money. But Russell was working Michelle and he would've put Russell up first chance he got. Thats Russell, like Jeff said by voting for Jesse to stay Russell showed his true colors and that was before K talked to Jeff. Actually if Russell stuck to Jeff like glue and talked with him the whole time it could have been different but Russell was scheming about Jeff, thats why he wasn't around Jeff to show he was sticking by the plan. I'd a thought the same thing if I was Jeff. Actions speak louder than words.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 8:21 am
Action speak louder than words...didn't work this time as Russell never had a chance to play out his "backstabbing". What Russell may have said does not mean that he would have done it before F6 (like Jeff did), Russell may have done it at F5 but by then things would have changed in the BB house... plots change all the time, so we can't really say Russell would have nominated Jeff if Kevin or Natalie were gone instead of him. I just want Natalie in F2 so that she doesn't go to the Jury House to poison all their thoughts with her lies again, but hopefully by then the Jury would have realized that she was the liar. I want her to answer to the Jury and see what she comes up with and if she's with Kevin it would be too funny if Kevin starts telling them about the LML.... that would be too funny. What Michelle should do in the Jury is tell them that Natalie threatened Kevin if he didn't do as she wanted (to get rid of Michelle) and that they're keeping Jordan only because they believe she's lousy at comps.
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 8:33 am
Michele also knows alot about the whole plan to set Jeff up (by Kevin and Natalie). Russell may have been trying to take credit for it this week, but in the hammock, Kevin told Michele that they had already planned everything out. it started with lying about Russell's loyalties, getting Russell evicting, getting a f4 deal out of Jeff and so on. It may be a big reason Kevin will evict Michele tonight. He wants her in the JH to tell his side of the story. He knows during Q&A Natalie will take all the credit.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 8:40 am
Missyb not only that but I'd love to see Kevin spell out everything to Michelle about Natalie to make sure she knows what she has to say to the Jury, even if he ends up keeping her it won't hurt his game having Michelle know everything so that she can confront Natalie and spoil her fun before Part 2 of HOH. Alas, it won't happen.
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Lillian
Member
07-29-2009
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 8:45 am
Missy, but if Kevin tells Michele everything and then evicts her, is she going to want to do him any favours in the JH? And will it do anything for his cause with the jury to hear that even though he says he was part of everything, he was doing Natalie's bidding until the very end?
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 9:24 am
I think if Kevin and Nat are in F2 it will be an hysterical dogfight to see who can outdo the other in claiming credit for being the most horrible. Kevn's edge will be that he did not ever have the kind of backing that Natalie did. He had to struggle more to maintain his position in the house while Natalie only had to keep Jesse happy until he was gone. Kevin worked harder from day one and never had Jesse's support. Plus, Kevin knew he was getting more of the proverbial blood on his hands and will probably do so til the end. He can use all this in jury. I read early on that the Kevin in post entering the house interviews was not the Kevin we were seeing in the house. I've taken that to mean he was much more snarky and cutting. More like he has been with Natalie the last 10 days. I imagine we will see more of that in jury questioning and final appeal. I think Kevin is just waiting to unleash. He knows everything Natalie is going to say because she tells him. She hasn't a clue what is boiling beneath the surface of Kevin ! Just my opinion.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:31 am
Oh yes. I think the real Kevin is gonna make an appearance for the jury and I think he can smoke Natalie with all he knows. I also think it may be our first opportunity to see Natalie's head explode cause for the first time ever, her game is out of her hands. She has no control. Should be fun. I'm gonna pop some corn.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:34 am
I am afraid that Natalie will only need one line for the jury house, and the sad part is that it's sorta true. "After Lydia left, Everything Kevin did to get to final two is just what I told him to do".
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 12:13 pm
Naja, I think that would enrage them even more.. LOL
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Peepinagain
Member
07-23-2005
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 1:35 pm
Yup Stormie as you said, 'Rus said it' but not giving him the chance to follow through is good game play for Jeff. I wouldn't have waited for him to nom me either, not if I had the chance to get him first. What you say in this house counts, since Rus said it why wait to 'see' if he does it? Jeff prevented it. Like Jeff said he screwed up by not getting the veto. If he got the veto chances are he'd win the game!
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 1:43 pm
Jeff should have known for sure that K/N were after him. So, instead of going after K/N, he went after Russell who might go after him. The odds were in favour of eliminating K/N. I don't agree that he would have won the game even if he'd won veto. He's so gullible and Natalie is so manipulative.
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Peepinagain
Member
07-23-2005
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 2:12 pm
Russell was his biggest competitor K/N weren't in the same league as Russell. Dealing with the bigger threat is better than dealing with the littler ones. Besides he wasn't going to get to play for HOH and then when Rus put him up he would've been playing against Rus for the veto. Russell is much harder to face than K & N!
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