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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 2:44 pm
The next HOH after the Russel eviction, which Jeff was so sure Russell would have won; was the smores. A few slip and a fall by Russell, especially on that bad knee and Russell was not a shoo in to have won that by any means whatsoever. It could have been anyones HOH. Jeff was so sure that Russell would have won that. Would have been fun to see if Natalie would have tried with Russell on a bum knee and Michele busting her butt to win. Water under the bridge now.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 2:48 pm
Well, true, Missy, but I like to play the "what if" game. What if Russell hadn't gone home. What if Kevin went home. Who would have won the HOH then? Might have changed the whole game.
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 2:52 pm
So, Kel, what do you think ? If Russell had stayed and lets say Kevin was gone. Russell, Mich , Jordan and Nat are slipping and slidingdone the graham crackers. All taking some pretty hard falls. Who do you think had the best chance ? I would have loved to have seen that scenario play out.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 2:59 pm
I think it would have been Michelle. That game was not suited for someone with a large build, it would go to someone who stamina, balance, agility and speed.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 4:32 pm
The problem is that Jeff took Kevin off the block and left Russell with Natalie, there was still a chance back then to salvage the F4 alliance by eliminating Natalie instead of Russell. Kevin would have been there for the slip and slide competition and may have won, not Russell. The F4 alliance may have died but not at the hands of Jeff...
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Peepinagain
Member
07-23-2005
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 5:28 pm
OMG give up on the F4 alliance! Any one of the F4 would've won that HOH chances are they'd have broken the deal, Russell-yes because he said he would've in DR, Jeff-yes, Jordan-yes and I have no idea where Michelle's head was on that one she may have and I think she was really committed to the F3 with J/J and herself so she may have broken it as well. ANYWAY it would have been the fairy tale ending to BB if they stuck to the F4 but thats NOT the reality of the game. AND if Russell was in Jeff's place and he nom'd Jeff well we'd all be bitching about Russell. Still think Jeff did the right thing, he had no other choice.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 5:41 pm
Peep let's say we agree to disagree...
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Lulu
Member
08-13-2009
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 5:41 pm
So people still believe Russell was not coming after Jeff just because he said so with Julie after being evicted....Guess everyone also believes he was only a character in that house as well HMMM....
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 5:52 pm
I can't wait to see Jeff's reaction to the news that Natalie is not 18 but 24!! He kept saying in all his interveiews I've got got by an 18 yr old!!! LOL It should be aired tonight...
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 6:05 pm
Peepin, I respectfully disagree. Jeff did not benefit from Russell leaving, now Jeff is gone bc he broke his alliance thinking he had a better deal, he didn't. Jeff was played.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 6:24 pm
If Jeff had kept Russell, and Russell put him up as HOH, Jeff would have had a great chance of winning veto, since he'd be playing against N/K with Michelle and Jordan on his side. Yes, Stormie, it was a bad move. He ended the game for himself and all of his group.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 6:54 pm
Shoot!!! We didn't see Jeff at the JH tonight... I really hope we see it on Thursday!
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 8:06 pm
Michelle is going to tell them a bunch of stuff! tee hee!!!!
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Bonzacat
Member
07-08-2003
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 8:07 pm
Spunky - Julie did say there would be Jeff at the Jury House footage on Thursday.
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Lillian
Member
07-29-2009
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 8:20 pm
Hopefully we will also see Michele's arrival at the JH.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 8:34 pm
I wish they'd let us see more of the jury house, maybe the'll escape and be on BB news everywhere 
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Peepinagain
Member
07-23-2005
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 8:47 pm
Don't forget Jeff would've had to play against Rus as well. Like Jeff said he screwed up by not getting the veto, bottom line. Had nothing to do with sending Rus home. If Rus was there Jeff would've still been on the block.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 9:06 pm
Russell was going to remain loyal to Jeff, Jordan and Michele until F4. Jeff broke his word, was instrumental in Natalie staying, and now he is gone bc of that. The idea that Russell would have put Jeff on the block before F4, came from Kevin. Jeff would not have been on the block had he not believed Kevin, the veto was important for him after that happened. It would have been Jeff, Russell, Michele and Jordan trying to get Natalie and Kevin out. I do wish that Michele and Russell had voted to oust Natalie, rather than Lydia, but unfortunately they went along with what they thought was their alliance, which they quickly realized Jeff broke. Jeff's greener pastures with Natalie and Kevin turned out to be swampland.
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Peepinagain
Member
07-23-2005
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 9:42 pm
If you watch Inside Dish Jeff said he noticed Russell's actions. Hanging out and talking constantly with Michelle. Thats when he started not trusting him, he even mentioned it BEFORE Kev said anything to him. During the interview Jeff brought up some points that he observed with Russell and knew if Rus had the chance he would come after him. Now if Rus had hung around with Jeff more he could have changed Jeff's mind and probably wouldn't have walked out the door. BUT Rus was guilty and advoided Jeff, which only solidified Jeff's decision. Jeff still had Michelle and Jordan on his side but that was it. AND Jeff kept saying what he did wrong was lose the veto competition, and that was it. If he won that veto he'd be in there now.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 9:46 pm
Why wouldn't Russell and Michelle hang out? After all, Jeff and Jordan spent days in the hammock and then in the HOH room. Why wouldn't allies hang out with each other? I don't agree that he'd still be there if he'd won the veto. Natalie would have come up with some more lies and he'd fall for them--again.
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Peepinagain
Member
07-23-2005
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 9:59 pm
Russell stayed away from j/j and didn't say much to them, that would be a sign that they're plotting and if you aren't in the plotting you're the one being plotted against. While Michelle was just going along with it, that also made Jeff trust her less too.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:07 pm
Except it wasn't necessarily Russell staying away from Jeff; Jeff was doing everything in his power to stay away from Russell and Michele. He and Jordan would be up in HOH complaining that the other two were hanging out together, but then R/M would complain if they came up to join them. It didn't seem to bother him that Natalie and Kevin spent all their time together, but Russell and Michele were just supposed to sit in separate rooms and stare at the walls or something.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:16 pm
Also Russell wanted to give some space to Jeff and Jordan since they were sharing HOH room, Russell may have wanted to reconfirm with Jeff about the swearing on the families and that he took that very seriously but seeing Jeff pissed and paranoid he kept away from him thinking it would be better for him if he didn't pester Jeff. Little did he know that Jeff couldn't stand him and couldn't get rid of him soon enough... Any which way you spin this... Jeff goofed up!!
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:22 pm
It didn't seem to bother him that Natalie and Kevin spent all their time together, but Russell and Michele were just supposed to sit in separate rooms and stare at the walls or something. ROFL--exactly.
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Leafsweetie
Member
06-29-2005
| Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 4:47 am
I equate Jeff's move to Howie - when he put up James and Sarah. He believed the "other side" and nominated his own. So its Jeff's own fault the alliance fell apart. Its Jeff's paranoia that caused his downfall. Its Jeff's ego that brought everyone down... and gave the win to Nat or Kev.
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