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Bbnut
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06-12-2006

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnut a private message Print Post    
Pretty much, I don't see Chima wanting it to be all girls because she wants a girl to win...I think she is trying to win the girls over and knows she can't beat the guys in an endurance.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Whether or not he uses the power, Jeff is still a target; so by eliminating one of the people coming after him, he will increase his chances of staying in the house.

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
Mnem, I'm not sure about some of your predictions:

Natalie without Jessie will be relying on Chima's girl power more than ever, and therefore may want to keep Lydia, especially with Jessie no longer coming between them.

Russell may not nominate Michele if she (as per pattern) returns to the other side of the house and rejoins Jeff/Jordan.

Kevin I believe will stick with the girls (Chima/Natalie/Lydia/Michele) - he did have some relationship with the others, but may bow to the group as he did with the veto, and go after the other three.

Michele or Lydia as HOH are almost complete wild cards IMO - Thurs night/Fri will be crazy as the sharks circle.

Bbnut
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06-12-2006

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnut a private message Print Post    
Michele would definitely put Russell up.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
The only problem with Jeff using the power is that Jesse and Nat wont have to be on the block together for more than 10 minutes... I would love to watch them squirm longer

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I agree Bonbon, but we have to take what we can get and be thankful we will watch "the king"lol go out the door.

Jarreau
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03-02-2008

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jarreau a private message Print Post    
And, don't forget his interview with Julie - once again he will be blaming America for his demise - giving Jeff the Wizard power.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
I agree Merrysea. Jeff seems to be mentioned alot by others for who they'd like to put up.

Mnemosyne
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08-25-2008

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mnemosyne a private message Print Post    
Anything is possible, Lillian. Your scenarios make sense, as well. But I do think Michele/Russell will be putting each other up. I think one or the other could swear their undying love for J/J, and they'd still go up. I think Nat putting up Jeff against Lydia, rather than, say, Russell, will be a better move to get Jeff out. Russell would probably go in that sitch.

Chitchat58
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07-25-2008

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chitchat58 a private message Print Post    
Even Chima told Jesse last night that if he went home on Thursday it was his own fault, she told him not to be sleeping so much, and to get up and start making nice with Jeff. His ego is too big, he expects Jeff to kiss his butt and come to him, he is sadly mistaken if he thinks Jeff will act like his minons do.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
At this stage of the game isn't the question..

Who will even try for the next HOH?

Kevin would not feel a need to go for it. Does he feel vulnerable as anyones true target at this point? Not just because of someones mouth but by looking at the game realistically. Does he want it just for the use of the HOH room? Only to become a target of someones after he gets rid of someone and pisses off another? His whole game which is annoying is riding coattails and under the radar as needed.

Lydia don't see her wanting it unless she just wants HOH time as well. Sure she's been nominated but as a scapegoat for an easy eviction of the person she is sitting next to.

Michelle with her whole desire to waffle could clearly see she is not a prime target so why go for it? She thinks she's locked into a girls alliance on one side and the J/J alliance on the other side. She'd probably hold out in the comp until Russ is out and then drop out.

Natalie if she stays Definitely would want it.

Jessie if he stays would Definitely want it

Jordan would want it.

Jeff would want it.

Russel too competitive not to want it.

I'd say Russ, Jeff, Jordan, and either Nat or Jessie would want it with Michelle waiting for Russ to be played out before she gives up.

That really does give a Jordan and Jeff reprieve a real chance for next week. Good odds to win or be safe. They could literally hand it to Russel if they are the last 3 in the HOH comp and shouldn't feel too vulnerable. I think he will screw them over eventually but right now he needs them both in the game as a target for the other side to go after so he wouldn't touch them and waffle between them and probably Natalie. Michelle as HOH could be all messy. Obviously she'd nominate Russ but the big question is who Natalie and Chima could talk her into putting up with him. She'd lose Jordan for good if she went after Jeff.

Zgoodgirl
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08-22-2003

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zgoodgirl a private message Print Post    
If Jeff used the CDE and Jesse gets voted off I don't think that Natalie would put Lydia up if she was HoH. I don't think she would want to see Lydia in the jury house alone with Jesse for a whole week.

I see her doing the same thing that Jeff did to her. Took away her BFF. I think she would put up Jeff and Jordan.

Mnemosyne
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08-25-2008

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mnemosyne a private message Print Post    
C1, also all excellent points.

Sparkle
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08-24-2007

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sparkle a private message Print Post    
I think Nat would put up Jeff & Jordan. I also think she will grab on to Russell if Jessie leaves.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
Where Russell went wrong with the convo last night with Jesse about POV was in saying he would not have tried to win. Jesse would have tried to win, he just would have NEVER used the veto. Which makes him worthless to Russell.

Jesse's biggest flaw in his game play is he is devoid of real empathy or consideration for other players. His only criteria for EVERY decision he makes is how it best benefits him. If it does not effect him he does not care at all. And if it impacts him in anyway he does not care as he would rather avoid a minor repercussion even if it cost his closet ally to be evicted. Being so singular and selfish will always fail on you because people eventually wise up.

Jesse thinks because he does not use the world "alliance" he has no responsibility to anyone else and thus can never be called a liar or betrayer. Jesse you are not the Fonz trying to say I'm Sorry. Your semantical games don't get you off the hook.

The only sad thing about the CDT is that Jesse will not have the opportunity to make sure Natalie hates him as he would have 100% thrown her under the bus every possible way to make sure he stayed over her.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Jessie pretty much figured out the CDE but how he is dealing with it shows how dense he is. He's so into "lying" and sitting back letting the women do stupid deeds that have repercussions he's missing his chance. Go out and get some votes for yourself just in case. Make some deals. Talk to Kevin. Talk to Russel. Talk to Michelle. He needs to pretend he's on the block and how he would get out of it. Instead he's missing the bigger picture. He assumes if Jeff just won't use it he's good so try to stop him yet he has admitted if he had that power he'd definitely use it. I think the DR tipped him off and they are probably thinking .... WOW, he's been through this before and still doesn't get it. I wouldn't be surprised if they finally get a felt board out and show him with little felt people... This is you... This is the other people. Now pretend you are on the block already. You need these felt people over here to not vote you out. How do you do that?

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
I still see Kevin as somewhat of a threat because he remains paired with Lydia. If any of the girls believe as Chima does that a female needs to win, they could decide to break up that pair by getting rid of Kevin.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
I think Natalie will also go right to the jugular and put up Jeff and Jordan as well. It's a knee jerk reaction. Her replacement if one comes off is either Michelle or Lydia. I do think she will RUN to Russel like lightening and play him for all he's worth and Russ will gladly take her in and she will waffle between Chima, Kevin, Lydia and Russel as needed. If I were Jeff and Jordan she'd be my next target. I think she can become very volatile in this game. I believe Russ would gladly take her to the final 2 with him.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
I wonder if Jeff would want the HOH but be afraid to get it. Having the CDT and then winning HOH may put a huge target on him or it may cancel out the fact that he won CDT. In otherwords having them be together people would just lump it together as a single point of power instead of two... although something tells me not.

I am afraid Jeff might back off. Jeff can't afford to back off for a while now. If Jesse goes he is one of the biggest targets in the house, especially with people thinking about final 2. Russell would be much less of a target because most people don't like him so he is the perfect person to go to the finals against. Going against Jeff would be tough. Nobody on the jury will dislike him, even Jesse. Jesse won't blame Jeff for making the move to get him out. He will respect it. He will be pissed at us. :-)

Anyways, I get afraid Jeff might feel like he needs to tread lightly and back off, but he really can't. As much as Russell is a goof ball there is a real issue with the gender imbalance in the house.

Doublethink
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08-23-2006

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Doublethink a private message Print Post    
Well, Jesse only figured out the CDE because Ronnie told him about it. Of course, if Ronnie hadn't the DR probably would have given Jesse some very pointed hints.

Sparkle
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08-24-2007

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sparkle a private message Print Post    
I think you are right on C1.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Kevin is a threat but right now not a current threat to the females. He's what I call a splinter to manipulate Lydia but right now he's a needed vote and should he get HOH their sucker to do their deeds. He has positioned himself very well in this game. He's full of shit with the things he says and I know Chima can see through him but for now he's one of those backburner players you tell yourself you'll get out in two weeks if all goes the way you want it to.

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
What I would like is if Jeff got HOH and then had a locked door policy...if you want to talk, 'lll be down stairs, we can talk there'...other then that....He naps or sleeps up there but continues his usual self, sitting outside observing, not talking more than needed and does not hole up in that room.
and then after his noms....he says...'you all figure it out'...unless veto is used...Im done...go about his buisness..... dont play into everyones crap....Just once Id like a HOH like that.

Delurker
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08-19-2005

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Delurker a private message Print Post    
Natalie would for sure put up J/J. I've heard her whisper that several times throughout the last few days. If Jesse leaves she may forget about sending Lydia packing, just like someone upthread mentioned, so she won't be alone with Jesse.

Lilbb
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07-29-2007

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilbb a private message Print Post    
are the hg's up? should i turn feeds on?
or can i get some home things done lol