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What555456
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06-14-2005

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
I know this will break the hearts of all of you who are fantasizing about their showmance, but it seems to me Jeff has got to dump Jordon.

As I read all of the comments about what alliances will exist after Thursday, it becomes evident rthat Jeff is not free to align himself as he may want because he has to think of 2 not 1.

Without Jordon, Jeff could move as freely as Russell or Michelle. With her as a millstone around his neck, he and Jordon are isolated.

It' time for Jeff to get free of her and do what he needs to do for himself and stopp having to consider Jordon in every action he takes.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 3:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
noooooooooooooooooooooooooo! LOL, I really don't care who wins as long as it isn't Jesse or Natalie.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
It would be silly to dump anybody that is so loyally on your side and a for sure vote on your side.

Closetfanfour
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07-11-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 3:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Closetfanfour a private message Print Post    
I agree, Naja! She is a very trustworthy ally!

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 3:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Actually, Jordan has a much better relationship with the rest of the house than Jeff does. I agree with Naja, though, it would be silly for either of them to dump someone who is a for-sure ally and is trustworthy.

Joyceellaine
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07-30-2005

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 3:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Joyceellaine a private message Print Post    
What5555- I totally agree. I hope she leaves soon.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 4:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
They are helping each other, it is working so far and if he's smart he will hold on to her and vice versa until it's more gender equal.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 4:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Also, if Jeff dumps Jordan, it gives the girls' alliance another member.

Kitkat
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08-23-2008

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 4:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitkat a private message Print Post    
Didn't Jeff say the other day, that he needed Jordan to bounce ideas off of. With her ability to "see" people, they make a good team. Plus, they are not letting this "showmance" get in the way of their game. Leave them alone!

Necie
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09-07-2006

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 4:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Necie a private message Print Post    
Hey, having Dr. Will on his side, helped Boogie win the dough. Everyone in the house knew they were an alliance.

Wavewatcher
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09-09-2006

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 4:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wavewatcher a private message Print Post    
Jeff said that Jordan was 'his rock' ...he won't be dumping her anytime soon. She's kept him sane.

Mindeegap
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07-20-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mindeegap a private message Print Post    
Jeff said Jordan got him through his lowest points in the house. Dumping her as a friend and alli doesn't seem like something that would work in his world of doing unto others. Don't see it happening.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 4:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I think Jeff is without any malice and would never think of abandoning her to align with someone else, not because he doesn't want to but because he's unable to think that way. Big Brother is definitely not a game for Jeff, although it's so refreshing to see someone playing the game with such nonchalance and still in there (although not for long).

I'd rather have someone like Jeff who cracks jokes every day than someone like Jessie who groans and moans because he's going to be backdoored by the 'joker'.

He may not have a clue of what BB is all about but he's adorable in his effort to play it.

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
Perhaps, Jeff exactly how to play the game, after all he is still there, and I expect him to see the prize at the end.

He and Jordan both deserve F2 and I believe they will stay to the end.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 5:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
But he won't be able to make F8 or F7 if he doesn't start winning some HOH or POV, or if his ally Jordan doesn't start winning as well.

Past players who were constantly targeted (like Janelle) survived because they managed to save themselves with HOH or POV. Now Jeff and Jordan will be targeted and who's there to save them if not themselves? America did a great job in saving Jeff for now by giving him this power which may be the only power he will ever have if he keeps losing comps.

It's time NOT to dump Jordan but to win something.

Mindeegap
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07-20-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 5:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mindeegap a private message Print Post    
Well, I predict next HOH will be Jeff or Jordan and then they take turns with it from here on out. Bam! Bam!

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 5:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Jeff dumping his strongest ally would make him appear less trustworthy and it would damage his reputation as being a loyal ally. It would also weaken the voting power of a two person alliance that is held together by actual, good old-fashioned TRUST, as opposed to the ones that are held together with lies and strategic maneuvering such as the alliance between Michelle & anybody. On top of that, it would also cost Jeff a jury vote if he winds up in the final two.

The only two people that can truly count on another person in the house are Jeff & Jordan and Jessie & Nat, which is why Jeff needs to put those two on the block and split them up.

And don;t forget, after Thursday there will only be 8 people left in the house. One will be HOH and two will be on the block, so only 5 people will be voting. Jeff and Jordan voting together would make up 40% of the votes needed to evict the next HG! (Of course, that's assuming neither of them are HOH or on the block next week.)

Mary1971
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07-28-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 5:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mary1971 a private message Print Post    
Mindeegap-From your mouth to Gods ears!!

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 5:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Jeff should absolutely NOT dump Jordan, she's his link to sanity and no one in this game should ever dump an ally. Allies are crucial in this game. I think it's safe to say that given J/J's popularity they'll both do just fine regardless if they win, of course I want one of them to win but if they don't I'm so thrilled they met each other and we the viewers got the privilege of seeing their relationship begin.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
What's the matter w/you, What###??

J&J are in a good place in their heads whenever they could be with each other. That's a whole lot better than any of the other HGS.

They have each others' back. They can talk about things not game w/ each other. Which keeps them strong for the game.
Together they are a voting block. As the number shrinks, that's going to be very important.

Got to go to the show, this suggestion makes no sense. What### just wants to see us scramble around! :-)

Rslover
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11-19-2002

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rslover a private message Print Post    
What,
You sure like to start a lot of threads here.
No, why should he? Jeff said "she's his rock" and you could have spelled her name correctly.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
What, you really don't like these two eh? ha ha ha

But I don't think it's time for him to dump her, they are very good as a team.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Gee that's an interesting plan. It's not even halfway through the game, but Jeff should drop the ONLY person he trusts in the house??!

And as Rs pointed out, and Jeff has often said, she's his rock and what keeps him sane in the game. I don't think we should be even contemplating this unless they both miraculously make it to Final 4. At that point it might be worthy of discussion. Now..no way IMHO!

Wendy
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07-16-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wendy a private message Print Post    
Dump Jordan and pick up who to play with?

The atomic bomb Russell, or Michele the girl who can't tell her own stories to save her life?

Both of whom have thrown him under the bus over and over again?

If they were to separate Jordan will go further than Jeff IMO.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 6:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Perhaps dump is too strong of a word. I really don't see Jeff turning on her -- and I would not respect him if he did. But severing his close ties would be good strategy for him, I think.

On the other hand, he needs to start playing for himself and not for two and he needs to start thinking about what is best for him and not what is best for "them."

As it stands, if Jeff needed to make an alliance say with Chima and Russell to strengthen his position, he could not do that unless Jordon came along. (I am not suggesting such an alliance, just giving that as an example). Indeed, there is really no one in the house he is free to make an alliance with because it always has to have Jordon included.

Of course, the same can be said for Jordon having more freedom as well, but I see her more as just riding Jeff's coattails and not strong enough to really make any moves or strategize on her own anyway.

(And no, it is not that I dislike Jeff an Jordon, Angelic! . Point of fact, I have no strong feelings about any of the HG's this year -- good or bad.

I just see the HG's more as pieces on a chess board, and I enjoy watching the strategies and considering how each can advance. And I don't think Jeff is going to advance much farther if he has Jordon to always consider in every move he makes.

(As an aside, I think Jessie would also do much better if he cut ties with Nat. I think Jessie's position is compromised by her nastiness. Indeed, I doubt he would be going home if he had not been following her conniving so much. In and of himself, he really is not that bad of a guy -- just a bit narcissistic).