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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
BTW, I wouldn't trust anything Julie says. As has been posted here before:

Official Rules via CBS:

*Coup D’Etat winner can overthrow the Head of Household only one time, right before live votes.
*Can replace both nominees.
*HOH and winner of the POV are immune (can not be nominated).
*HOH does not vote. *Coup D'Etat winner does not vote.
*In the event of a tie...CDE is tie breaker vote.}

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 11:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Kevin say during the last show that he needs to keep the POV power for himself?

If he used it on Lydia, would she also have been safe from The Wizard?

Perhaps DR has explained to Kevin that if he used it, whoever he used it on would be considered the owner of the POV.

Heck...I dunno. I'm confused. LOL

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 11:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Where were those rules posted, Costacat?

Based on those rules, it suggests that the coup winner can nominate anyone except the HOH and POV winner, making the HOH's nominations and the veto completely irrelevant.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Jimmer isn't that the point?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Kevin may have said that because no one in the house EXCEPT FOR JEFF know exactly what the power is. They are speculating but they don't know.

But it is the person who won the challenge who is safe (along with HOH). Not the person who did nothing but get the winner of the POV to give it up!

I googled "coup d'etat big brother 11" and while I can't find anything on the CBS site, the same information is identical on several sites.

And yes, the CDE winner can nominate any person or persons to replace the HOH's nominees EXCEPT FOR the HOH and veto winner. That's why Chima is threatening all sorts of ruckus if the special power is used cuz it could mean her HOH reign is mostly irrelevant. The veto wouldn't be, though, because the winner is still safe (as is the HOH).

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 11:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Sure is Scooter. That's what I meant. :-)

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
So if Kevin had taken Lydia off the block, Jeff would still be able to put Lydia back on the block with the CDT?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That's my understanding of the above.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Yes and Kevin could go up to, no?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
No. Julie said that the only way to be safe is to win the HOH or the POV. So the POV winner is safe.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 1:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Even if he used the POV to save Lydia? Would that then make Lydia the POV holder?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Scooter, I think the POV would remain in Kevin's possession.. but who really knows? And he didn't use it so he sure didn't lose it.. good question.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 1:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
I know I'm just playing Angel's Advocate

Dfennessey
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07-25-2004

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 1:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfennessey a private message Print Post    
Scoot I know the truth about you

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 1:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Scoots does devil's, er, I mean, ANGEL'S, advocate real good! <snort>

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    


Bowl4sport
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07-21-2008

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bowl4sport a private message Print Post    
POV = Power Of Veto. The POV winner is the one who wins that Power in a competition. The person who is saved by the Power does not gain it, it was used by the holder (winner) on them. Used or not, the POV winner is still the person who won that right in a competition.

That's how I interpret those rules. :-)

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Julie did NOT say "POV 'HOLDER'."

Julie says to the HGs, and I quote, "What I can tell you is that this week, having the HOH and VETO are more important than ever because that is the only way to guarantee your safety."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GZanpHjxZs

(You have to wait through a 30 second commercial before the Julie-Coup D'etat video starts.)

Sincebb1
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08-22-2005

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 3:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sincebb1 a private message Print Post    
You know how they hang the POV on the picture (on the memory wall) of the HG that won it? If the POV is used..does it then hang on the person's (on the block) picture it was used on...or does it continue to hang on the picture of the winner? I never paid attention.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 4:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Sincebb....they don't move the pictures any more. They used to. But they don't anymore. It just hangs on a peg that's to the right of the Memory Wall.

Leafsweetie
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06-29-2005

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 4:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Leafsweetie a private message Print Post    
So does this somehow mean that Jeff isn't safe if he uses CDT?

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 4:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
"What I can tell you is that this week, having the HOH and VETO are more important than ever because that is the only way to guarantee your safety."


So....if they use it on someone, they take it off themselves and put it on the person they use it on....so....who would then "have" (or hold) the POV???????

lol

(Gawd...I can't wait 'till tomorrow. HA!)

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I don't think the POV is transferable as is the immunity necklace in Survivor. In Big Brother, someone wins the POWER to Veto the HOH's nomination. If said winner user that power and vetos a nomination... then power is over. It is not as if someone is vetoed, HOH puts another person on the block and then the person now wearing the POV can take that person down. Nope... it's used and done.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 4:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Incredible, but I dont' remember, in the very first HOH competition, who was responsible for the Athletes clique's victory that brought back Jessie?

Was it Russell, if yes, he was cheated out of an HOH, and if it was Jeff I can understand why he's so mad at Jessie (at least he is since week 1), or was it Nat and this is why they became a pair?

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 4:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
It was Natalie/Russ who were both still hanging on at the end.