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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 6:53 am
Did last night's fights cause any of you to change your opinion about any of the HG's or who needs to go this week or next week? The winners in all that went on, in my view, are Jessie and Ronnie. Jessie will stay where he is, a main player. Ronnie will now not go home this week. The main losers, I think, are Russell and Michelle. Russell will bounce back. Michelle won't.
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 6:59 am
Why won't Ronnie go home? J/J - evict Ronnie I still think Michele and Kevin will also evict Ronnie. I agree the fight helps Jess, mostly because it makes Russ the #1 nom choice for a lot of HG after Ronnie goes. This is good for Jessie.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:00 am
Nope, Ronnie is out of there on Thursday, and Jesse and Natalie are about to be exposed for their lies. (In my perfect world)

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Mindeegap
Member
07-20-2009
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:06 am
I hope so Rose! I did a lot of flipping with the other HG last night but I'm still final three with Jeff and Jordan. 
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:08 am
I agree that Jeff, Jordon and Kevin will vote to evict Ronnie, if Ronnie remains on the block. But Michelle is now untethered, I think, and is likely to be snatched up by Jesse and Nat, even with their lies about her. Jeff and Jordon will try to hold on to her, but she will recognize Jessie and Nat, along with Ronnie and Russell is where the power lies. Keep in mind too that Jeff still does not know he has the Coup d-Etat. Once he knows he is likely to start scheming about who is best to get out of the house and is likely to decide it is better to get rid of power rather than a snake. In my opinion, his best move would be to remove Ronnie and replace him with Jessie.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:24 am
"But Michelle is now untethered, I think, and is likely to be snatched up by Jesse and Nat, even with their lies about her." BITE YOUR TONGUE!! LOL - just kidding...Though, I will hate it if Jesse and Nat get away with their lies.
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Mary1971
Member
07-28-2009
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:26 am
God, no Jeff shouldn't use his power Thursday! Wait until next week because he & Jordan will likely be on the block. If he wastes it this week he can't save himself and Jordan next week.
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:26 am
quote:In my opinion, his best move would be to remove Ronnie and replace him with Jessie.
But the POV ceremony is done, and the noms stand at Ronnie and Lydia. Given those choices, I think Michele will evict Ronnie as a *variable* she is less able to control or deal with. I hope. I don't think Jeff, at this point, would want to disturb the noms with Coup power unless it directly saves him or Jordan. (Unless the DR gets busy putting ideas in his head...) Jeff is very happy to have Ronnie gone, so they only reason he would be tempted to use it, imo, is if he gets clear indication Lydia is going instead of Ronnie. Jeff never seems to be in-the-loop enough to even know that key fact, unless Michele comes right up to him and says she's changing her vote to evict Lydia. She may tell Jessie/Nat that she's gonna do that...but I don't think she really will. ETA...and if he DOES hear Michele is gonna flip, he may not do anything anyway, unless he's told by the DR that the Coup power includes the right to name the replacement nom. No way he wants to risk Jordan going up at that point.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:36 am
Km...the Coup power does include naming the replacement. I assume he will be told this when he is informed he has the power. I agree with you, he SHOULD only use it to save himself (and I guess Jordon too, but I am not sure how that helps him in the game). But I am not sure he will limit himself that way. He is likely to see this as a chance to get rid of a major threat, which is not a bad idea.
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Mnnice
Member
08-01-2009
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:44 am
I still think Michelle will be with J/J. She is going to want to prove to them that they can trust her and her vote will be the ultimate proof. She seems offended that Russ challenged her integrity yesterday (which was kind of the spark that started the big fight last night.) J/J/M are going to talk it out today. I predict that the Nat/Jesse lie about the green room will blow up today. J/J still need to talk to her about that but didn't want to get into it last night. I think when they ask her about it, Michelle will pull Nat/Jesse into the conversation and then possibly....ding, ding, ding...Round 3 (or is it 4?)
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Mindeegap
Member
07-20-2009
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:47 am
the sad thing is so much happened since the green room story that it is probably the last thing on anyones mind. We had four different fights going on last night. They don't remember what really started it because he slithered away after the fire started.
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Jagger
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08-07-2002
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:48 am
My opion of the hgs hasn't changed, other than I think I like Kevin a little more, he finally grew a pair and spoke his mind. He called Ronnie out right in front of everyone, and caught him in an out and out lie. Michele took note of this and later even said they need to get Ronnie out because he can't be trusted. Granted J/N/C still have two days to get under her skin but I think she's smarter than that. Oh and there is no way Jeff would use the Wizard Powers this week.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:50 am
I agree Mindeegap. So much was said by so many people that it no longer matters who or what was the basis of the argument. Jessie's and Nat's lies no longer will matter to most of them. Today is a day for regrouping and realigning. I would be surprised if anything is as it was before last night.
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:58 am
What exactly is the "green room" story? I missed that...
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Mindeegap
Member
07-20-2009
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:58 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa5qa5bRnbc Ronnie crying last night about Kevin saying he admired Hitler. Jordan cracking up had me cracking up!
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Govols
Member
07-18-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 8:00 am
Things that changed for me: ~Russell messed up. The truth was at his finger tips. He needs to see thru Jesse. ~I have to give Natalie credit for how she and Jesse spun that deal. (But, I still don't care for them) ~Kevin gets huge kudos for having good facts w/his fight w/Ronnie.
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Lillian
Member
07-29-2009
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 8:01 am
Jessie was smart to stay out of it - I was starting to think he wasn't on his game after all, but maybe he is. Several people just moved ahead of him on the hit list, and that's the name of this game. I will be SHOCKED if Jeff uses the Coup this week; he has zero need to. Even if it looks like Lydia is going home instead of Ronnie, that makes no difference to Jeff and Jordan. MUCH smarter to save it for next week, when he and/or Jordan could easily be on the block. In fact, I think he should even throw HOH, along with Jordan if he can convince her, knowing that both are safe no matter what, and leaving them free to win HOH the following week.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 8:05 am
I couldn't take listening to a lot of the screaming and arguing least night. I FF through much of Showtime. I have had the feeds since season 2 and this is the first season that I have no idea what is going on. There are so many stroies that I can't keep up with what is true and what are lies. Actually it dawned on me that there are no truths in this season. If their mouths are moving they are lying...with maybe the exception of Jeff and Jordan. I began this season not liking Russ than changed to liking him some in the last few days now back to wanting him gone even more than wanting Ronnie gone. I never much liked Chima or Nat but after last night I now loathe them both. So I went from wanting out(in this order) Ronnie, then Jesse, then Nat to now wanting Chima, then Nat, then Russ. Actually I want them all out except Jeff and Jordan.
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 8:07 am
ITA Lillian...If jeff truly understands how the power works, he and Jordan should throw HoH... The only exception to this is if he feels jess could go home if he noms him against Ronnie...I would LOVE to see jess still go home Week 4 but I don't see Jeff nomming Jess, or Jess going if up against Ronnie, unfortunately.
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Mary1971
Member
07-28-2009
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 8:09 am
Lillian, I totally agree! Jeff needs to save his power for next week and throw the HOH this week. I don't trust Russell. He's a ticking time bomb, J/J need to stick together. Besides a two person alliance seems to work out better. I am glad J/J I heard seemed to be out of the heat last night. I am so sorry I missed it! I need to Flashback tonight. Did anyone hear Michelle admit she has a crush on Jeff out loud? Was Jordan there? All I know is Jordan was all over Jeff last night and Jeff kissed her at 3:30am. I think they should keep Michelle and Kevin close and just totally trust each other 100% noone else! I think Ronnie then Russell and Jessie need to go then Natalie & Chima. J/J can manipulate Kevin, Michelle & Lydia I feel.
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Tre34
Member
08-17-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 8:09 am
Anyone know the time and date that Ronnie made the original Hitler comment? I would like to flashback and see it - cannot believe anything Ronnie says and need to verify his version for the sake of my curiosity.
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 8:12 am
Tre in this case, Ronnie is actually telling the truth. Kevin spun the Hitler story.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 8:14 am
I have not watched last nights events... Many feel that Jessie's target has been moved to other players... Who do you think Jeff has on his radar after last night? Since Jeff most likely has the Coup Power, his targets are the one's that are important.
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Tre34
Member
08-17-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 8:15 am
WOW Kminfinity.....thank you. I am wide mouthed right now at the thought that Ronnie was indeed stating a truth. Hitler is now Joke ever...even the recent Rosanne Barr cover is distasteful based on the atrocities that occurred.
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Tre34
Member
08-17-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 8:16 am
oops meant NO not Now sorry all
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