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Bblover262
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08-05-2005

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bblover262 a private message Print Post    
Chima is defintely not my favourite player and her latest antics are ridiculous, but I can't help but wonder how much her rape and subsequent execution of the rapist has affected her personality. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Jadajean
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03-23-2008

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 3:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jadajean a private message Print Post    
I think she is just mean.

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
execution? you mean killed?

Bblover262
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08-05-2005

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 3:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bblover262 a private message Print Post    
I believe so, she was the last victim of a serial rapist "the bathtub rapist" and he was executed this past February. Although I don't defend her, I can't help but wonder how this would affect your personality.

Ladydewtel
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07-18-2002

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladydewtel a private message Print Post    
As a survivor of rape I can say that it does affect you and how you act. One tends to hate all men for what one man does. Although this is wrong, this is what happens. Chima is affected by this more than she thinks she is. Women of rape goes one of two ways. They become men haters or they say F it and sleep with whoever shows them any affection. Usually the relationships we have are with men who are abusive or we control everything. Unless a woman gets continuous counselling she will be affected. As for me I went from being raped at 17 to an abusive relationship where the man beat me and affected how I look to this day. The difference for me is I got counseling and have tried to help others who have been abused. I am now in a healthy relationship and am looking forward to the future :-)

Lardbrick
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01-16-2006

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lardbrick a private message Print Post    
I think she was just as mean and obnoxious before the rape as she is now. You don't become that hardcore in just a few months. I would think that a traumatic event would make a person more reflective of things and other people but she is the exception.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 4:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
It's been more than a few months; I think it was about nine or ten years ago that this happened (when she was in college).

ETA: Oops, in rereading that, it looks like you might mean the time she's been in the house.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

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((((((((Ladydewtel))))))))))

Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 4:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Chima's rape happened many moons ago. Although the culprit's execution was only months ago.

I don't know. Chima herself talked about the fact every women in her family is "outspoken". To me it sounded as if they have already reached the point of demanding. I'm not blaming her upbringing. I just think this is probably the norm of Chima. Not being an expert, I don't know if she's affected by her past. But then again, each and everyone of us has to agree that, we are the way we are because every thing we've been through.

Iheartkaysar
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08-16-2005

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 4:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iheartkaysar a private message Print Post    
Ladydewtel, thanks for sharing your experience. I'm glad you've got yourself to a good place, now.

Re: Chima. I'm sure her game play is affected by her experiences, but that's true of everyone. People play this game based on what they believe about people; that belief is based on experience. In Chima's case, there is one obvious event, but we have no idea what her personality was before the rape.

I just want to say how nice it is to come to a forum like this where, despite not liking some HGs, people are still respectful. I couldn't believe some of the postings on other forums about Chima's rape! Disgusting.

Bblover262
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08-05-2005

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 5:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bblover262 a private message Print Post    
Ladydewtal, thanks for sharing, so this would make sense for Chima wanting to control the situations she is in, especially if it appears a man is in control, i.e. the Wizard power, it is completely out of her control and driving her crazy. Interesting...I still don't like her, but it sheds light on why she behaves like she does ... I hope she gets whatever counselling she needs as well.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 5:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Ladydewtal -- how horrible for you. I am so sorry.

And how horrible for Chima as well. I would think the rest of her life will be affected by what happened to her.

Ladydewtel
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07-18-2002

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 6:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladydewtel a private message Print Post    
Thanks guys.
Yes she will be affected by this for the rest of her life. It is something one does not ever get over. Like I said I am certain this is affecting her game play. I also, in my own personal opinion, think Lydia has been abused in some way. just by how she is acting. Us women who have been abused tend to feel the need to attach ourselves to men, and those men who are not good for us are the ones we are attracted to most. It is not a conscious thing, but we do tend to be attracted to those who are abusive. It is all we know.
This is just my personal opinions based on things I have gone through and seen.

Rslover
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11-19-2002

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 6:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rslover a private message Print Post    
5 Threads about Chima?

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 6:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
What I like very much about Chima is her support of Michelle. She's got flaws definitely but she does seem to be a very good friend to those close to her and that's nice to see.

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 6:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
Well I am a survivor of rape and my rapist got 32 years! and I was lucky enough about 5 years after I was raped to meet a wonderful woman who I now do volunteer work for at Victimsvoicesheard.org
I don't like the way Chima is playing the game! I have heard her say some things that made me cringe! But sadly I see more why Lydia acts as she does! LIke Lady says she wants someone to care for her so she goes back no matter how mean the guys are!
Thats how some woman end up in hospitals! I feel more pity for Lydia than I do Chima in her actions!
sigh sadly I think Chima may still be a victim, Not a survivor YET!

What555456
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06-14-2005

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
This is becoming a very distressing -- yet somehow heartening -- thread.

There are so many of you. How terrible!

Ladydewtel
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07-18-2002

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladydewtel a private message Print Post    
Agree Seattlemom

Ladydewtel
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07-18-2002

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladydewtel a private message Print Post    
Not so terrible if you let it go and move on with your life and grow from it and help others who have been abused. I do not want anyone feeling bad for me. Yes my life has been hard, but it has made me who I am today :-)

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 8:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
If the rapist was executed only a few months ago, that could have stirred everything up for her. She seems quite brittle, trying to cover it up with shouting, threats, etc.

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
Ditto what Lady said! If you go to wboc.com and at the top click on the Get It Now link you will see Heart and Soul. Click on that and the video's will come up.
There is a bar there and we are on number 4. I am Proud of this newscast!
I just hope Chima can find some peace and let go of the anger!
It so isn't helping her in the game or in Life!

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Maybe that explains why Chima was attracted to Russell in the first place. I thought that was a bit strange, given the volatile behavior he'd displayed almost from the beginning. It's like on the one hand she hates men (is there a word for a female version of a misogynist?), but on the other hand she's drawn to the type of man that'll be easier to hate.

Perhaps she does come from a family of strong women (not necessarily obnoxious women), and they tried to support her through her recovery by playing that up. Then when she'd go overboard they'd look the other way.

But, yes it's affecting her game because she's letting her personal vendetta with Russell get in the way of good strategy. She has tunnel vision when it comes to him. There never had to be a fight in the first place if she'd been able to develop a healthy relationship with him instead of playing the role of crazy ex-girlfriend.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 9:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Calling Braden sexist could be influenced by what happened to her.
Calling Russell a terrorist (repeatedly now) doesn't really seem connected to what happened to her. It just is ugly.

What would happen if Russell kept repeatedly calling her the "N-word?" How is what she's doing any different?
As terrible the history that the "N-Word" has, calling someone a terrorist is quite possibly worse.

I live near Detroit which is 85% black, and Dearborn which has the highest Arab population in the US (I think outside the Middle East too.)
Having had friends and dated people from within those groups, I think that being called the "N-Word" is not as demonizing as being called a "Terrorist."

Calling someone an "N-Word" usually makes the caller look stupid. Calling someone a "Terrorist" often throws a suspicion of doubt on the recipient. I've seen it happen.

Also by connotation, a terrorist is worse. The "N-Word" connotates someone who is subhuman, property, lazy, and shiftless. A terrorist is someone who is willing to kill anyone of any age anywhere at anytime to further their cause. It doesn't matter if the person harmed is "innocent" and in fact terrorists often believe that anyone who is not part of their cause is guilty...regardless of age, sex, religion, or whatever.

Which is worse?

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 11:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
I think the past of each of them affects their game. It's how they let it affect their game that counts. Life is 5% what you have, 95% what you do with it. The things that have happened to CHima--they have happened and can't be changed. What she does with them though--she has control of that.

Iheartkaysar
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08-16-2005

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 11:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iheartkaysar a private message Print Post    
I guess the piece missing for us in this discussion is that we don't know what Chima was like before the rape. I know people who become stronger b/c of trauma, people who become mean/bitter and others who eventually become pretty much the same as they were before. We can speculate all we want, but we don't know if or how she's changed.

I know I feel sympathy for what she (and all others like her) have experienced. No one deserves that. But from what I've seen of her behaviour, she is not someone I would want in my life.

And I agree with you about concerns for Lydia. So many red flags with her. If she were my student, I'd be encouraging her to see a counsellor ASAP.