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3grands
Member
05-04-2009
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 4:12 pm
i think lydia would be loyal to jeff for a little while for taking her off the block this week with cdt
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 4:13 pm
I know Cricket printed those rules, but I can't find them. Maybe if I promise to not nominate her next week she will re-post them..lol
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 4:54 pm
Here ya go...from pg. 2 of this thread... *Coup D'Etat winner can overthrow the Head of Household by replacing the two nominees with anyone you want. (Does NOT say the Coup holder becomes the HoH.) *Can use the power only one time, right before live voting. *HOH and winner of the POV are immune (can not be nominated). *HOH does not vote. *Coup D'Etat winner does not vote. *In the event of a tie...CDE winner is tie breaker vote.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 4:59 pm
Tissy, I can read ~~Chima and Nat will be the only two out for revenge and since Chima can`t win HOH that just leaves Nat as a threat.~~ all night long. Thanks for posting those words ;)
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 5:06 pm
Thank you Kmin..
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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 5:08 pm
I really want Jeff to use his power and put Nat and Jessie up, it really doesn't matter who goes.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 5:28 pm
He's a wannabee actor. Jeff will handle the coup de tat however the Diary Room TELLS him to. or should i say, Strongly suggests ! (wink wink)
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 5:36 pm
quote "Sun 11:42 PM BBT Russ literally says he'd backstab anybody (points to Jeff & Jor) to win the money. Both Jeff and Jordan were surprised by this, and questioned him about his statement. Russell then tried to backtrack. J/J talked again between themselves about it later. Russell realized later that he screwed up and gave away his stragegy while he was drunk, and cursed while banging his head on the outside wall. " I would suggest that people flashback that time period and watch the event of the next hour themselves. I do not agree with the Above Update from jokers and have been finding that quite a few Updates are not what really happened. Jeff and russell had some interesting back n forths during the longish convo. Russell talks about all kinds of stuff Including Michele Russ and Jeff being final three. Then he stumbles and looks at jordan who is rather agast. Russ quickly comments that He wants Jeff to win and Jordan to come in second IF he is going to be evicted this week. There was all kinds of awkward stuff happening and Jeff was noncommital thru all of russell's rantings/ offers. russel started getting soppy at one point when he was saying that the others were talking about WHEN he leaves not IF he leaves. Sorry for the long post but the Update above misleads the reader. For instance J J both have a rather awkward discussion as to whether they would backstab each other. Jordan did pause a significant time....enough for jeff to question her about it. I thought Russ did an excellent job of creating tension between them. BUT my opinion only, Someone else could get a diff view
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Ruskybizz
Member
07-09-2009
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 5:59 pm
I agree with the majority here that Jeff needs to put up Jessie and Nat....but what if he took Lydia down and put up just Jessie. Then he could tell the house he's put up the two power players and it's time to pick sides. Jeff could later tell whoever stays that he knew it would work out that way and perhaps establish a new alliance.. Just a thought....
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 6:15 pm
I don't mind Russ shaking some sense into Jeff and Jordan, those two need to wake up and smell the roses. Jeff, so far so good in keeping it secret or deflecting, however, now that the POV issue is solved, he will be bombarded with innuendos and threats by the "opposition" and he will have to sooner or later tell them all to go take a hike and leave him alone and ask them, why are you so sure I have the power? and why are you so sure that Jessie and Natalie would be my targets? I don't have it, you don't have it, she doesn't have it, he doesnt' have it, stop guessing and stop bugging me about it. Anyway, on Thursday you'll know one way or the other, no use bugging me about it. This would be Jeff's only solution in handling this added pressure, tell them to stop harassing him about it. Since he can't even negotiate, he better put a stop to all their speculations. If they insist would only be to make him reveal his secret and lose the power. However, Jeff does not think like me, he will keep deflecting and maybe giving some hints, which is bad. There is no more POV, so he can't keep saying "have faith" to Russell, if he keeps saying that, then it will be so clear he has it. Of course, there are so many ways to show he has it, he doesn't need to make the mistake of saying it. If they all keep saying "hypotetically", I think Jeff may have a chance of negotiating with Russell to make sure Jessie goes and get protection for the next nominations if Russell or Lydia win HOH. But he has to walk a very fine line and I have my doubts... for exemple, it took Jordan (after she came from the HOH meeting) to tell him that the reason they were not on the block is because they fear he has the power, until then I don't think he even thought that could have been the reason. He knows Russ is just as bad as Jessie but Russ is still better to keep than Jessie. If he changes his mind now something may have scared him and when you're scared you lose.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 8:23 pm
Ruskybizz, if he took down Lydia and put up Jesse, Russ would end up leaving and Jesse and his crew would really be after Jeff even more than they are now! He's got to put up Jesse and Natalie.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 8:27 pm
Originally I thought Jeff should just replace Russ with Jessie, if he could do an informal canvas and knew that Jessie would go. I still think this is what he should do, if he knows Jessie would go. if he does not, then it is best he put up both Jessie and Nat. Question -- we have all assumed it is Jessie and Nat he will put up. Has he actually said this or implied it? In the DR or elsewhere?
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 8:29 pm
He has been asking people if Jesse and Natalie were on the block together, who would they vote out?
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 7:34 am
missyb noted that late Tues nite, Michele and J/J talked startegy, she confirmed her allegiance (faking the Grrlpower stuff?) and will def. evict jessie over Nat. At this point, knowing neither Jeff nor Chima vote, I'm predicting... Lydia - evicts Nat Russ- evicts Jess Kevin - evicts Jess Michelle - evicts Jess Jordan - evicts Jess Though I would love for Lydia to realize the flow of the House and make it unanimous... 
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 7:45 am
I'd love it if your scenario is what happens Kminfinity and Lydia is the sole vote for Natalie and when Natalie doesn't go home but Jesse does Nat then goes on a full campaign to get out Lydia. With Lydia and Russ still in the house some of the heat will be off J/J. I'm hoping here. Tempers being as fragile as they are with Lydia and Russ there could well be a big blowout with Russ and multiple folks and another between Nat and Lydia especially with Jesse gone and not there to keep the 2 playing nice.
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Chief
Member
08-09-2009
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 8:12 am
Ooooh, just thought of something! Up until now, Jeff has been laying low and wasn't really a target for anyone until further down the road. Even Jesse was gunning to get Kevin out before Jeff. So now that Jeff has the CDT, it could hurt Jeff in the game. We voted for him to get the special power, BUT if he uses it, there will be an immediate target on him for a couple of reasons: 1) Now he has to make an enemy of an alliance, which means they will all target him, and 2) The rest of the HGs will know that he's America's favorite, which means they can't win against him. What to do?
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Lillian
Member
07-29-2009
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 8:21 am
oops double post
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Lillian
Member
07-29-2009
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 8:22 am
Chief, America doesn't vote for the winner, so your #2 doesn't really matter. The HGs won't like it personally, but it shouldn't effect their game. If anything, the danger to Jeff is that their jealousy of his public popularity will make them target him or vote against him in the end. At the same time, remember that they won't know that Jeff won it by a landslide - some of them will assume it was close and they are just as popular has he is. Natalie comes to mind for example.
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Lindaceles
Member
08-31-2006
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 8:25 am
Chief, I respectfully disagree with that. First off, as for him being a target further down the road, what difference does it make if he's a target this next week or the week after, or the week after that? The reality is, he's a target every week, and when you really listen to Jesse, he is always calling him and Jordan "them" or "the other side". With Jesse gone it substantially weakens that alliance. He should have some gratitude this week from Lydia/Kevin and also Russell for saving them. Chima can't play for HOH, so really it's just Natalie. I'd take my odds in assuming that one of them (Jeff, Jordan, Michelle, or Russell) can win HOH this week. If they don't and Natalie wins and he goes, that's the game. IMO, when you get an opportunity to make a big move at this point in the game, you'd be a "Marcellus" not to take it.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 8:25 am
Jeff has to step up to the plate at some point. Laying low will only get him so far. Sooner or later the others will run out of options and he will be nominated regardless.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 8:30 am
Jesse said it best last night. He said Jeff, Michelle and Jordan are everyone's targets next week so if one of them has the power they have nothing to lose using it.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 8:31 am
If Jeff uses the Coup D'etat, he will also gain alliances. Yes...he'll lose Natalie, Chima and Jesse, but he'll gain Russell and Lydia. For a week or two, anyway.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 8:44 am
yes Bee. And with Russell remaining in the house the NBK alliance will be split on who they want out next, Russ or Jeff, Jordan, or Michelle.
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Dfennessey
Member
07-25-2004
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 8:53 am
honestly though how good will Natalie be without Jesse. I think she just acts tough because of Jesse and his muscles.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 8:56 am
Km... said: Lydia - evicts Nat Russ- evicts Jess Kevin - evicts Jess Michelle - evicts Jess Jordan - evicts Jess I know about the reconnection of J&J+Mich. I am also sure that Mich & Jord will cast their votes to oust Jess. But Kevin? I'm not sure. He may want Jess' protection against Rus & Jef for his new alliance. (Chima & Nat doesn't have a good record of winning.) Hopefully that one is not so real. Hopefully he will remember all the hurt Jess causes Lydia and most importantly, time to take out a muscle guy. But look how he dint use pov on Lydia. Who knows? Russ?? He loves to pit Jess & Jeff against each other. He might have the need to keep Jess. I hope not. I hope he thinks about Jess being his only physical threat. Lydia? Who knows? It all depends on if she remembers why she's there. She might like the idea of winning more money than Jess and take care of him. She's had Girl alliance talk w/Chima. She's been getting along better w/Nat, ... I'm reaching. But it's really not a done deal. Aside from Jordan & Mich, we don't know jack!
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