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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Big Brother USA ARCHIVES: Big Brother 11 - Part 2: Chances of Ronnie Going This Week (Week of 8/3/09): Archive through August 04, 2009 users admin

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What555456
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06-14-2005

Monday, August 03, 2009 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Caprica...your votes are based on Michelle holding. How sure are you of Michelle's vote?

I am not that sure at all. Michelle shifts from one group to another and will go where she thinks the power will be next week.

I don't see her current alignment with Jeff as solid, especially since right now it looks like she, as a woman, wants affirmation from him and he is not about to give it because of his relationship with Jordan. Within a day or two, she may feel like a woman scorned.

Muffin
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08-29-2007

Monday, August 03, 2009 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Muffin a private message Print Post    
London, after watching this video, I agree completely with what you are saying. He is a very, very sick person. I am surprised that CBS allows him on one of their shows.

Jacsamik
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09-06-2008

Monday, August 03, 2009 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jacsamik a private message Print Post    
No CillySue2 you are not over reacting.

I am so very sorry about your daughter.

That Ronnie was put on the show is also disturbing. Someone really dropped the ball and Londonwatcher- spot on.

Cup half full approach: with the exposure Ronnie is getting with the show, hopefully, once he returns to his home, someone in his world will steer him toward the help he so obviously needs. Not just from what we have seen in the house, but, my goodness from the information and the video, etc. that is surfacing about him. Disturbing at best.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, August 03, 2009 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I've missed a lot this season by refusing to really watch the show or feeds (so I don't actually read all the threads here)... what is this about Ronnie and cyberbullying? Seriously? SERIOUSLY? (Actually, I could see it happening, I guess.)

Mindeegap
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07-20-2009

Monday, August 03, 2009 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mindeegap a private message Print Post    
Costacat- check out this video
http://spoiledmom.blogspot.com/2009/07/cbss-big-brother-contestant-ronnie.html

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, August 03, 2009 - 10:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Costa...Ronnie claims to have created a female online personality to get back at one of his enemies. He seemed to take great pleasure in this.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, August 03, 2009 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Oh lordie. I couldn't even make it halfway thru that vid (but I did get to the part where he talked about creating an online persona and scamming the person with whom he was upset).

The man is delusional if he thinks that's funny. And oh, yeah, the smart thing? Um, yeah, so the fact that you excelled in a language means you're smart? Um, yeah, nope. Not so much.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Monday, August 03, 2009 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
The video was bizarre, no doubt about it. But the part of his scamming the other guy? I don't see it the way many of you do. This is guys being guys. I certainly do not out it in the same category with the mother who led the young girl to suicide, as some of suggested in the Blonde Ronnie thread.

I would be willing to bet it did not go very far. After all, this is Ronnie telling the story -- and he tends to hyperbolate everything.

Mindeegap
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07-20-2009

Monday, August 03, 2009 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mindeegap a private message Print Post    
I want to agree with you on that What, but he did do the same thing as the Mother, by setting this person up to fall for someone on line. It could have turned out with the same ending.

Slinkydog
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11-30-2005

Monday, August 03, 2009 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Slinkydog a private message Print Post    
I finally watched this video, and fail to see what all the uproar is about. At most, he seems blowhardish, but we already knew that about him.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Monday, August 03, 2009 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
OK, I am definitely at 50/50 for Ronnie going home, maybe even 45/55.

Jessie, Natalie and Chima have raised doubts in Russell's mind about Michelle and Russell has talked to Jeff and Jordan about it. While they assured him he could trust Michelle, he isn't buying it 100%.

If Michelle gets the sense that she may be on Russell's bad side, she is going to look for support for next week to buffer her against him. If she is thinking right, she can get that by making a deal with Jessie, Natalie and Chima to not put her up, thinking they can also sway Russell. She then makes a deal with Ronnie. In her mind, that gives her five people who would not go after her next week.

Not a bad deal if she can pull it off.

Two days is a long time in this House and lots can happen.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Monday, August 03, 2009 - 7:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Michelle should not say one way or the other until she has figured out who has the Coup d'etat. She didn't use the POV since she knew the Coup d'etat could have overruled her decision. It's not the moment now to rock the boat...
She should let them guess and hope for the best. In a way I hope she keeps silent so that Jeff won't have to use the power just to save Lidia, what a waste...

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Monday, August 03, 2009 - 8:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Michele and Kevin are not voting Lydia out.
The power will not be used this week.
Ronnie is 100% gone.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Monday, August 03, 2009 - 8:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
It does not matter whether Michele is afraid that Russel will turn on her or whether she is intimidated by Jeff and Jordan's showmance. Michele KNOWS that most of the drama is caused by Ronnie and she wants him gone.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Monday, August 03, 2009 - 9:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
You may be right, Caprica. But I am not as sure as you that Michelle's primary motivation will end up being that she wants to stop the drama. It may end up that she will want to secure her place in the house for the next couple of weeks.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 6:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
I think some people here and on other sites are way overblowing Ronnie's involvement in the "Chip & Zach" video. He didn't create it, he was an actor. One of the things that I read about Ronnie was that he was an aspiring actor. It's just one more thing pointing to his endless desire to become famous.

The people who created "Chip & Zach" are a couple of guys who make movies under the name Wazzlehog Films. Here is their MySpace where it tells how they came to be. Ronnie doesn't appear to have any involvement with them and their creative process other than that he appeared as an actor in this movie. It looks like he helped with the makeup, but that is typical of low low budget student films...the actors take on other roles. But the movie was written, directed, and edited all by one of the 2 main guys behind wazzelhog films. http://www.myspace.com/wazzlehogfilms

As for his Solitary 3.0 video interview, I think here again Ronnie was exaggerating for effect. He was trying desperately to get famous by getting onto that show, and now he's landed Big Brother. Note that the irate person from the "spoiled mom" blogsite mentions that Ronnie is a "self proclaimed" cyber stalker. We all have seen how Ronnie lies and embellishes if he thinks that it will help him out. So, I take what he said with a grain of salt. I think it is another example of Ronnie making stuff up to appear smarter and better than he really is. I have yet to see where Ronnie was charged or convicted of anything relating to cyberbullying or cyberstalking. So given Ronnie's propensity to lie and exaggerate, I'm going to guess that his claims in the Solitary 3.0 video are just that, claims. While it could be true, I'm betting that it's not. Ronnie probably thought that the "story" would make him seem more interesting when it just makes him seem creepy.

I don't think that it's right to blame Ronnie for the "Chip & Zach" video, nor to point at his "performance" in it as indicative of his behavior in real life anymore than it would be fair to point to "Hannibal Lector" as indicative of Anthony Hopkins in real life. Ronnie was ACTING a part WRITTEN by someone else.

I also think that it's wrong and dangerous to label someone as a "sociopath" when you're not qualified to do so. Karuuna posted in another thread about being a licensed professional and that Ronnie doesn't show the classic qualities of a sociopath, nor is there enough information to label him as such just based upon his time in the house. We've all seen how the BB house can bring out the worst in people, and maybe it has in Ronnie.

From the 2 videos he was in before BB, it appears that Ronnie makes poor choices as to how to go about getting famous. He has shown the same tendency to make poor choices while in the BB house. But they don't make him a sociopath, a pedophile, or any other vile names that he's been labeled with. I find it interesting that so many posters in the various BB forums come down on the HGs for the way they act towards each other, and the words and labels that they use against each other, yet these same posters seem to have no problem with labeling a HG as having Asperger's, or being a sociopath or a pedophile.

I don't like Ronnie and I hope that he gets evicted, but I'm taking these videos with a HUGE grain of salt. He was acting in "Chip & Zach," and it's not entirely out of the realm of possibilities that he was "acting" in the Solitary 3.0 video as well.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 6:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Well said, Darclyte. Ronnie is not the devil incarnate as some seem to think he is.

He may be living in a fantasy world of his own making and he may not be very likable. But he is not evil.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Dropping my estimate on Ronnie going to 40 he goes/60 he stays.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 8:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
The video was bizarre, no doubt about it. But the part of his scamming the other guy? I don't see it the way many of you do. This is guys being guys. I certainly do not out it in the same category with the mother who led the young girl to suicide, as some of suggested in the Blonde Ronnie thread.

That is EXACTLY the type of thinking that lets this kind of crap keep going on.If it just guys being guys,I am glad I don't know any of these "Guys"...

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 8:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Neither is good, but don't you think there is a difference between two older people getting into an argument and one of them coming up with a scam to get back at the other one vs. an adult mercilessly scamming a young girl? Both are nasty but an adult perpetrating a scam against a young person is particularly nasty.

Perhaps that is what the original poster was pointing out.

Bigbrotherrocs
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09-17-2005

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bigbrotherrocs a private message Print Post    
I think M teling N she had no respect for other houseguests because of R tells us all she will vote him out. jmho

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 1:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
If Michele is the deciding vote, then Ronnie is gone. She wants him gone, I thought that maybe she was going to align with Jessie/Nat/Chima but it seems Michele wants Jessie gone next!!!

Brava Michele!!

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
I think Ronnie will be out the door this Thursday.

Rslover
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11-19-2002

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 2:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rslover a private message Print Post    
A B S O L U T E L Y

Laneesmom
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05-12-2005

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Laneesmom a private message Print Post    
PLEASE tell me he IS going this week!!