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Cmist
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09-20-2005

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cmist a private message Print Post    
Jeff needs to use the power if only for himself so he can say I proved to you <77> that I may be mr nice guy but "blam... take that Jesse put that in your sandwich and eat it"

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 9:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
Jeff may have all the power this week, but unless he or Jordan get HOH on Thursday, he could easily be toast. I'm not sure he's done enough to build a solid base around him to ensure that he and Jordan survive another week.

He seems to have Russell, especially assuming he removes him from the block, but I think he's mistaken if he thinks he has Michele on his side, let alone Kevin and Lydia. Has he not noticed the amount of time Michele spends with Chima, and did he not wonder why Kevin did not protect his friend Lydia by taking her off the block?

An alliance of 3 against 5 is still very, very vulnerable.

Lanzee
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07-12-2000

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lanzee a private message Print Post    
Jeff should NOT use the PoWeR.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 9:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
An alliance of 3 against 5 is still very, very vulnerable.

True, but it's certainly better than an alliance of 2 against 6, which is what he'll have if he doesn't use the coup and Russell goes home.

Nick
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07-31-2004

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nick a private message Print Post    
jeff has sat back and watched quite a bit.. he's understanding the other's reactions to things and so this is a good gamble.. nat will most likely go off the hook and most likely will cloud her ability during the hoh competition.. chima can't play.. that leaves jeff, russ, jordan, lydia and kevin.. that's not too bad of odds.. particularly if they voted for jessie to leave.. they might be thankful (ok within the limitations of their ability to ever be thankful for anything) to jeff for making the move..

or at least one can hope. . :-)

Noschmo
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08-05-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Noschmo a private message Print Post    
Plese god let Jeff use the wizard power! I really just want to see Chima's head literally explode and the hideous cackle she calls a laugh float away from her body like a cartoon God.. Is that too much to ask?? Please oh please...(PS if not too much, please throw in the main room a large timer that countdowns to this catastrphic event... just so i can see the monster that is Jessie freak out as he knows it must have something to do with him, because well everything has to do with him)...thats all, amen.

Dfennessey
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07-25-2004

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfennessey a private message Print Post    
and Natalie will say it is all Jesse's fault

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
I think Natalie is already preparing herself for the possibility of Jessie's departure. She's been putting in a lot of time with Chima, Michele and other HGs for the past few days.

And while yes Jeff should use it to save Russell at the very least, he's making a big mistake if he thinks he can count on Michele, Kevin or Lydia.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
He needs to keep Russell because he would be another against Chima, Jessie is Chima's buddy so why keep him?

However, Natalie may go and not Jessie, which would be even better..

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
If it were me, I'd be in a bigger hurry to get rid of Natalie to cut off Chima's alliance before it gains any further momentum and they lose Michele, Lydia and Kevin for good. If Russell is still in the house, and Chima will be on fire, and it won't be long before she targets Jeff to get him out before Jordan.

Jessie without Ronnie and Natalie is virtually powerless, especially with Chima already setting her sights on her next alliance.

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
I hope everyone remembers Michelle's (BB10) meltdown when she was in the same position as Natalie and Jesse was evicted!! She then went on to win HOH WITH A VENGENCE!!!! I hope history does not repeat itself Thursday night, when Jesse goes.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
As far as Jeff knows, America is sending him a message telling him they want to see him make a move.

He's not involved thinking if Jeff would be better off not using it. All he could see is how J&J and whomever he considers allies now have been under someone else' thumb for long enough now. Besides, he would probably like to see a pretty smile of approval on Jordan's face w/o any worries of the game for a brief moment!

Okay, unless there's anything drastically different happenings in the House, I am done talking in circles about this subject in every thread.
I need to so I don't act like Jessie or Chima!!

Jeff will keep his secret.
Jeff will use it.
One member of the triangle will be gone. (T of Jess+Nat+Chima or J+N+Rus, doesn't matter.)
Jeff wins our heart.
Jeff wins Jordan's heart.

After that, J&J will play the best they could and we will live with whatever the outcome.

----The End---

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
Jesse is worried, but watch the desperation and pressure and lies build Wednesday night and Thursday. These are the crucial days when often decisions, votes and alliances change...just before the eviction. It should be very interesting that 24 hours.

Chief
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08-09-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chief a private message Print Post    
Jeff knows he can't possibly depend on Russell to keep his word, but that takes a back seat right now. Chy is right, IMO. Jeff knows that America gave him that power so he can USE it. It may be best for him in the game to not use it, but he may be willing to deal with that to please America. At the same time, he'll be gaining some respect in the game. That means that if he makes it to F2, he'll win, because of that power move. I'd still like to see Russell go home because I can't respect his game (with creating hate and discontentment for his personal pleasure). But I think Jeff will likely worry about Russell later.

If, however, Russell stays in the game, I wouldn't be surprised if he and Chima didn't bury the hatchet and recommit themselves to be alligned together. It would be an act of desperation, but not that far fetched, and no one would ever suspect them to ever work together again! Russell knows very well that he can beat all the women in the house, and he'll focus on getting the remaining alpha male (Jeff) OUT of the house!

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Jeff's BEST move would be to use it.
I don't see how he'd be "toast" if he did use it, and didn't win HOH.
Jordan likes Jeff.
Russell likes Jeff.
Michele likes Jeff.
Kevin likes Jeff, much more than Jessie and Natalie...and probably more than Chima as she seems to frighten him.
Lydia...who knows.
If Jessie or Natalie go home, their alliance will only have 2 people in it. If whoever doesn't go home out of Jessie/Natalie were to win HOH and put Jeff up, Chima would vote him out but I don't think Jordan, Russell or Michele would. I doubt Kevin would. Lydia would NEVER side with Natalie should she be the HOH, but if it was Jessie who stayed (that's a MIGHTY big if) then she might side with him and Chima.
Looking at the people left in the house, if Jessie is the one who gets evicted, I just don't see the downside of using the power...at least not until the Jessie/Natalie/Chima alliance is all sitting in the jury house.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Amen, Chief.

I think Jeff is so set on Jessie going because I remember from Week 1 he was very annoyed that a former houseguest comes back with all the HOH power and starts making chopped liver of all of them... but he can't see past that, he can't see that if he's not gonna win something he's toast anyway.

Natalie would be a good eviction for him because two strong allies of Jessie (Ronnie and Nat) are chopped liver thanks to Jeff.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
If whoever doesn't go home out of Jessie/Natalie were to win HOH and put Jeff up, Chima would vote him out but I don't think Jordan, Russell or Michele would. I doubt Kevin would.

But Jeff would be put up against Jordan, to ensure that he would go home.

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 11:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
Yes, as the voting pool gets smaller and smaller, picking the second nominee often comes down to eliminating a vote to keep the first nominee.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
As the pool gets smaller your chances for everything go up: being nominated, winning HOH, and winning POV.

Jeff has to use the Coup. He'd be a fool not to.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
I figure it doesn't matter if he is toast for using the CDT. Jeff and Jordan are going up no matter what so at least with using the CDT, Jeff is likely to be less burnt and therefore more edible then if he were completely burnt. Sounds good when you're hungry, right?

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
lol kappy!

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 1:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
lol Kappy. Jeff has nothing to lose using the CDT he's on everyone's radar already.

Carrly
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09-28-2000

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 2:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carrly a private message Print Post    
Wouldn't it be better if Natalie left? She seems to be the brains behind Jessie and Chima. Without her coaching, I think Jessie would be lost and Chima also to a certain extent.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
Jeff knows Russell can't be trusted perhaps- but he also knows Jesse and Natalie DEFINITELY can't be trusted.


If he doesn't use this and Russell goes, he's the next target anyway. If he uses it, he's possibly the next target- BUT he'd have eliminated someone who was definitely against him, and out of the remainder of that group, one can't play for HOH.

Jeff probably won't win this game, but he sure as hell can make it VERY interesting the next few weeks...and he knows the audience gave him this power for a reason. He has the opportunity, so he must take it.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 3:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Yes, I think it would be better if Natalie left. Not sure Jesse would be able to regroup. But either one gone is a good start.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 3:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I think it would be better with Jessie gone. It's hard for me to picture Lydia and Natalie as a happy team through thick and thin, but I sure can picture Jessie sticking with Lydia.

Lardbrick
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01-16-2006

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 7:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lardbrick a private message Print Post    
It is true that Jeff will make enemies using the CDT but if he doesn't start whittling down the numbers of the other side, it won't matter pretty soon because he will be in the minority.

"Jeff, Use the CDT. Put up Jesse and Natalie!!!"

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 7:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
Lets see Will Jeff make enemies? If he leaves it as it is and say Russell leaves That Leaves Chima, Nat and Jessie who have said they would put up Jeff and Jordan! It will leave Kevin Lydia and Michelle who all at repective times have all pledge to help Jess,Nat,Chima! So UMMM Heck Yes Put them Up!!!

Iheartkaysar
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08-16-2005

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 7:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iheartkaysar a private message Print Post    
The fact is, even if Jeff did not use CDT, he and Jordan are a target. At least by sending Jesse home (hopefully), they have a better chance. I think R will stay on their "side" for a few weeks at least. R is the lesser of two evils (I don't mean that literally!) between Jesse and Russell, and Jeff knows that.

Sharebear
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09-16-2001

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 1:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharebear a private message Print Post    
Okay I have question, may be the wrong place for it, but didn't he sort of tell J she was safe? I don't know maybe I imagined it, but I thought they had words about it. Wasn't there a rule, that they could tell noone nothing, or it is void?

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 2:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
I think the only advantage to keeping Russell is that he might become an ally where there's no hope for that between Jesse and Jeff.

Jactree
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07-31-2006

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 9:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jactree a private message Print Post    
Yay! I am so happpy that Jeff has used Coup d'Etat today!! I hoped that Natalie would get evicted, but Jesse was evicted as he is a bigger threat. I'm so glad Michelle won HOH instead of Chima and Natalie! Yay!!!