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It's Time For Jeff To Dump Jordan

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Chere
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08-10-2005

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 9:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
Jeff and Michele were jedi drilling late last night. They will be ready- KNOW THAT!

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
ooops Jeff was on the block? and won POV?

I'll shut up!!

Wendy
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07-16-2009

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wendy a private message Print Post    
I have to ask you What, do you have the Feeds or you read recaps and watch the shows?

Because I unless you watch the Feeds for yourself as some of us do, you won't know the real dymanics in the house.

Jordan have been branded a leaker by many but there have yet to be any evidence of that. Her friendliness is interuppted as her having loose lips. It has certainly not cost any problems for her and Jeff, yet the perception still remains.

Jeff on the other is seen as a non gamer which imo is pure BS. He is playing the game his own way. Just because he is laid back and doesn't talk game to half the house doesn't mean he is not playing. He is not playing with them but playing he is.

Leafsweetie
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06-29-2005

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Leafsweetie a private message Print Post    
What: the title misspelled Jordan's name as Jordon.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
I just realized that the OP of this thread is Michelle. Apparently she has a secret little mini computer and has been using it in the bathroom to post here!

Mary1971
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07-28-2009

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mary1971 a private message Print Post    
I watch the feeds (but can't at work) I can do this chat at work. I am on Eastern time (NY) I couldn't live without the feeds. You get so much more from it. I love them!

Chere
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08-10-2005

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
So Mary, as a fellow east coaster, do you stay up late into the early morning to watch the special moments between Jeff and Jordan?



You know I'm teasing you, right?

Mary1971
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07-28-2009

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mary1971 a private message Print Post    
Chere- Actually I do alot of the time! LOL
I have even called in to work because I stayed up all night watching J/J. LOL Do you stay up, Chere?
But I figured out the Flashback feature so I don't do it as much anymore. I expect to be up most of tonight though! I am so excited. Like a kid in a candy store!

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 11:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
People keep saying "but Dan was America's Player and he won" - big difference here. Being America's Player is actually a challenge, because you have to do things and vote the way America wants, not how you think is best. The fact that Dan got through it was admired, especially because along the way he was also playing a very strong game.

Jeff did not win the CDE - no one in the house knew it was available, so none, including Jeff, did anything to win it. It is a gift from America, because America likes the guy.

It's part of the game, fair and square, but to say that he "won" it is a stretch when he nor anyone else even knew they were candidates for it. And this is much different than America's Choice - where a fan favourite gets a call from home or even a monetary prize. This one is a game changing gift.

As far as the other HGs are concerned (I'm surmising) Jeff has done nothing to deserve the half mil, and using the CDE won't really count in their minds, because anyone would have done the same if they had received such a gift from America.

Justalittlebean
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08-15-2003

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Justalittlebean a private message Print Post    
Dan was only America's player for one week. Eric from season eight was Americas player the entire game.



Lillian
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07-29-2009

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
Exactly - but same goes for Eric - they received a challenge, whereas Jeff received an advantage.

Mary1971
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07-28-2009

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 11:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mary1971 a private message Print Post    
Lillian-Actually being Americas Player I see as more of a hindrance. Dan got $20,000 for being America's Player which put a big target on him. Jeff gets no money for using his power. To me if he uses it they may be upset at first but later in the Jury house they will see it was a good game play and ballsy of Jeff! Jeff is taking a risk by using it but I think he will (after all he has stated how he loves to gamble) and the HGs will respect him more and award him the $500,000. Just my opinion.

Chere
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08-10-2005

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 11:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
Mary- 3 am is my limit on weekdays, but I usually fall asleep during BBAD. However, on weekends I've been known to pull all nighters into the morning. I usually watch the stuff I miss late night BBT in the evening after I get home from work on flashback.

Doublethink
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08-23-2006

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 11:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Doublethink a private message Print Post    
Wendy, I agree you can't state that Jeff is not playing the game - yet. It hasn't benefited him to try really hard for HOH yet. He couldn't nominate his biggest targets - Jessie and Natalie - until the cliques were dissolved. And I think it worked really well for him that he dropped out of the endurance comp, and let Russell take the heat for nominating Ronnie. Granted knowing what we now know about Russell, that could have really backfired, but it didn't.

Finally, what good does it to talk game with the NBK alliance - all they are going to do is twist your words, tell tall tales, and create more drama.

After this week, you'll probably be able to tell whether Jeff has "game," or not.

Chere
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08-10-2005

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
Jeff did not win the CDE - no one in the house knew it was available, so none, including Jeff, did anything to win it. It is a gift from America, because America likes the guy.

It's part of the game, fair and square, but to say that he "won" it is a stretch when he nor anyone else even knew they were candidates for it.


Lillian- Actually the hgs knew they were candidates for the CDT. The night of Casey's eviction, Julie Chen told the hgs that a mystery power will be given to a hg based on America's vote. Julie did not explain what the power was, but the person who was awarded it could not tell anyone about the power until he or she decided to use it. So YES, all the hgs knew they were candidates for receiving the mystery power.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
The first few weeks of Season 10, Dan was playing pretty much the same game as Jeff, laying low and trying to stay off the radar while paying attention to what was going on with everyone else. While Eric was chosen by Big Brother to be America's Player, America voted for Dan to be America's Player for that week (just as we voted for Jeff to win the coup d'etat).

Jeff is noticing what is going on, but he is also listening to what Jordan brings back to him from her talks with people. She always comes back and says things like, "They believe I'm with them, but I'm not."

We know that the HOH winners of the first couple weeks become big targets (Ronnie from week 2 is already gone, and Jesse, weeks 1 and 3, will hopefully be walking out the door tonight). There was no reason for Jeff and Jordan to make any kind of big move up to this point (other than when Jeff won POV to take himself off the block - he may or may not have gone home ahead of Laura).

However, Jeff and Jordan are not floaters and are not perceived as such in the house (unlike Kevin, Lydia, Michele and now Russell). They have always been the "other side" and have always been targets. No one is seriously going to team up with Jeff at this point other than Jordan, Michele and Russell; Kevin and Lydia may say they will, but they've proven themselves to be untrustworthy in that regard.

Chere
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08-10-2005

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 11:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
Actually being Americas Player I see as more of a hindrance. Dan got $20,000 for being America's Player which put a big target on him. Jeff gets no money for using his power.

Mary- During BB10, no one knew Dan was AP until the finale when it was revealed. Dan had the freedom to play his style of game while giving America what they wanted for a week.

I think Jeff being CDT is more of a hinderance because he is forced to keep the power a secret until he uses it. Having CDT power is like having the hoh power to nominate, but it doesn't offer the same perks and benefits of negotiating deals like the hoh.

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
Chere, I stand corrected on that point. I still think however that this is essentially a gift, not something Jeff (or anyone else) competed for to win.

Chere
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08-10-2005

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 12:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
Lillian, I agree it was a gift from America to Jeff.

Mary1971
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07-28-2009

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mary1971 a private message Print Post    
Chere- That's true but they found out Dan was Americas Player in the Jury House when they had to make a decision and it didn't influence their vote.
I see Jeff playing alot like Dan did (only honestly with integrity unlike Dan) and Jordan is playing like Memphis did (riding on Dan's coat tails) It worked for them.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
What555456 stated:
Jeff is simply the main focus of discussion this week.

I don't think you will find anything I have said in any of those threads as strongly anti or pro Jeff. Just discussing his options and what he might do.

It is discussing strategy that I like and each of those deal with strategy.


Well, there ya go, What. Jeff/Jordan don't have a strategy. They are just mosying along in this house.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Of course Jeff has a strategy. His strategy was to lay low until he needed to make a move. He made a move winning POV and taking himself off the block when he had to, and he's making a move using the "wizard power." There has been absolutely no reason for him to try to be HOH before this (other than the week he made the deal with Russell; had Russ not been on the same page, Jeff would have held on much longer). Making that deal showed he was playing the game, and it made Russell realize that Jeff was a worthy player.

The people who talk too much and reveal their strategies too soon are the ones who leave first (maybe not Braden, but certainly Laura, Casey and Ronnie, with Jesse or Natalie joining the list tonight).

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I'm not saying it's necessarily bad, Merrysea. I'm just saying they are just mosying along. It seems to be working.

The people who usually have a huge strategy are the ones who never make it to the end.