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Laurellee
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08-03-2009

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 1:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Laurellee a private message Print Post    
Quit casting babies.Get older group, senior. All copmps don't have to be physical.

Akwarlord47
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06-26-2007

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 1:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Akwarlord47 a private message Print Post    
I'm for a combination of both young and old. It allows for interesting ineracttions. Although Casey and Chicken George may no be he best examples of "older"... there is a way to combine the two I just don't think that AG has figured it out yet...

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 1:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
CurlyQ said, "She grew a fan base simply because people wanted Michael to be avenged, and she and Kaysar were the only two left in the house who gave a rat's patootie about him. Then the fans got so wrapped up in worshipping Kaysar and Janelle and hating the other contestants that they forgot about Michael"

This fan of Janelle did not worship Kaysar or Janelle, I simply liked her because she won a lot and was a very likable person. I liked Kaysar because he had a good heart even if he had no game. As far as Michael went, I thought it was dumb of her to want to avenge Michael in the first place since I wanted her to win!

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 2:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
two comments in response to earlier posts.....Yes many jobs you can be missing for 3 months. Lots of people take holidays or a Leave of Absence when they are going on a long trip. this is no different.

re/ BB1 a total snooze. The most controversial/interesting people were voted out early by America, and we were left with a bunch of nice/non-controversial/boring people.

exactly!! poor casting choices. there were only two protagonists and one was a vile Black panther militant type and the other was a whiney scowling stripper/writer.

IF the house was stacked with great personalities it would have worked better. the final three guys made it because they were well cast. the other HGs were bland filler.

Season two would have been way better and could have stuck to the old format

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 2:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I'm sorry but I absolutely disagree with everything you said.

No, many jobs CANNOT "be missing for 3 months." I don't know of a single person who could take a leave of absence for three months, and come back to a job. Nor do I know of anyone who would want to.

I actually loved BB1. I thought it was innovative, loved how the HGs tried to mutiny against BB, and thought the casting AT THAT TIME was just fine. (I'm also curious as to what being a Black Panther type or a stripper has to do with anything, but I think I'll just ignore that bit.)

ETA: Especially in this day and age, I don't know anyone who would willingly give up a job in an attempt to win fame and fortune on some reality show. No one I know is irresponsible enough to assume that they would have the same job when the summer was over. And no way would the company I work for hold my job for three months while I appeared on a reality TV show.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
A bunch of people at my company have taken 3 months off - maternity leave, family leave, advanced schooling - and returned to their jobs, I think it would have to be considered or it would be discriminatory. If I was younger I might consider it and I am sure I could get it approved as long as we weren't in the middle of a big marketing campaign.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 3:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Dipo, there is a difference between family leave, maternity leave, advanced schooling... and Big Brother. The first two are actually required by law that you return to your job. I don't know about the schooling, but I believe many organizations have policies for that.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 4:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
Yeah, I know that, but you have to treat employees equally and sabbatical happen all the time for different reasons. It's not like you get paid during that time, except for maternityy, I am just saying that there are businesses out there that would approve a three month leave. Although I do have a friend who's company requires that you take a month off after ten years employment to refresh/rewind/re-assess, wish I worked there, combine that with your vacation time and all you need is a one month leave of absense.

Bowl4sport
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07-21-2008

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 4:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bowl4sport a private message Print Post    
How long do teachers have off in the summer?

Sugar
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08-15-2000

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sugar a private message Print Post    
At my last job we got a 1 month fully paid sabbitcal after 5 years. Last I knew it was supposed to be every 5 years but that may have changed with economy troubles of the last year.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 5:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
A company I worked for back in 2001 had a 1 month sabbatical after 5 years also. I was the last person that managed to take one before they discontinued the policy (and then 9 months later, closed the doors). But that's rare in my industry.

Even more rare is the ability to take off three months with the deadlines we have.

And honestly, if I was gonna take off that much time, I sure as heck ain't gonna spend it with the looney tunes peeps!

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 5:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
I didn't find BB1 boring, either. People forget the drama that went on because it wasn't of the type we see now, with people constantly lying to each other and having sex on camera. Instead it was more like the housemates were against Big Brother, which makes more sense given the name of the show.

Remember the woman whose marriage was falling apart? Remember when Brittany was evicted, and George's wife had arranged for a local bar to pay for people to come and vote Brittany out? Then Brittany was allowed to talk to Justin, and she told him the story. Then there were the banner planes, which made it more fun. Plus that little attempt at a revolt which really made it fun. Remember when Curtis went to the Emmy awards? Remember how turned off people were when Jamie got the chance to talk to an agent or her mother and she chose the agent?

That was a fun season. Loved the dance marathon, and when they had to write words to the show's theme music and then record the song. It only really got boring in the last week, and it still gets boring in the last week because almost everyone's gone.

If they had been allowed to strategize about their nominations it would've been the best of all worlds.

Trekkie
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07-09-2005

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 9:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trekkie a private message Print Post    
Where in the heck do you people work that you get treated like kings???? Month long sabbatical???? I guess that is why there is never anyone from the upper midwest on the show. we all have jobs where we have to show up for work. We get two weeks paid per year. That's not fourteen days, that's ten days. Five days per work week.

I agree with Curlyq. I thought season one was great. They were real people with some different backgrounds. Now it just seems that these "children" are cast, not to see how they get along, but because they WON'T get along. I like to see young, beautiful people on tv as well, but it's getting old....REALLY.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 12:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
Justin42 has a good point about the not talking noms rule.

I have always said I would love a season where UK and US BB switched those rules.. so the US people could not talk and the UK could.

Heck I would like even a week on the US show, with extreme punishment for not complying.

Heck allow the fans to vote for one person who can not talk about nominations every week. I don't think it would hurt if this people had a better idea of who was liked or disliked. Right now the general perception of the show in public has almost zero influence. Sure we occasionally get a vote that impacts things, but I am talking more about having to be confronted with the psychological reality that people don't like you.

Lillian, I realize that people can't be interesting 24x7... however I am hard pressed to find enough interesting things to fill in between the contests on the current shows they air on CBS. There is little to nothing going on there.

I think the problem is potentially compounded this year by Jessie getting back in as he was a horrible and non-entertaining housemate last year. Sure we can bash the others, but at least they brought some sort of non-game interest to the show. Jesse is completely boring.

Caprica, I was thinking about the stipend. I think they need to up the prize money and substantially raise the stipend to potentially attract a higher quality of people. When the people on the show now love being there because the stipend is twice as much as they made outside, well geez louis.
Having a stipend based on their real world salary is not a bad idea.

Rosem, I would love to see a BB that cast people only 35 and up. I think it would be an interesting show but it will never happen because tv networks believe people die on their 53rd birthday.

One thing I would add this is the least imaginative group ever. What kinds of games or frivolous fun have they come up with? I can't think of a single thing. They literally only sit there and talk and sometimes play pool or chess. I don't know of a single game or activity they have done that was made up by someone there to kill the time. You know how devoid or imagination and creativity you have to be to be stuck in a house 24x7 with a group of people and not a single one of them comes up with anything to do to kill time?


As for BB1, it was much more like the shows in the UK and Australia, with only a few minor differences. The problem now is the show is so very formatted that they suck all the interesting about it. We never see real diary room sessions like they show in the UK. Everything is just Real Worldesque recaps of events that already happened. Heck when they have people change clothes or not cut their hair because they have to shoot recap interviews it bothers the crap out of me. There is no spontaneioty on the show at all. It is essentially sit around and scheme like wild monkeys until they provide you the next organized contest. There is literally nothing else to it.

I wish for it to be more of a real social experiment and a petry dish of people coming together.. but it is actually completely irrelevant who you are or what you know or what your life experiences have been going into the house. Everyone might as well be wearing masks and have numbers instead of names.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 1:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
I will say one thing for this season. The high school clique thing did turn out to be a fun little experiment in that almost everyone resorted to acting out their labels, at least in the first couple of weeks. The athletes got all pumped up about winning challenges, and then bullied other houseguests. The populars became the most liked by the fans. The offbeats couldn't quite get accepted by the other groups. And the brains watched everyone else and plotted their individual strategies. If they had never been given these labels, I'd love to know if this would've all played out differently.

I also think a few of them were put in the wrong category. Casey, Laura, and Kevin could've all been brains. Chima could've been... I don't know...maybe offbeat. Jeff should've been with the popular crowd.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
Trekkie, LMAO, do you get sick time as well? We used to have ten days vacation and 15 days sick time, then the company changed to "PTO days" so for the first two years of employment you get 20 days of paid time off, after that I think they add a couple of days and then no change until you are here for 6 years.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Trekkie, note that I said it was a company I used to work for, I was the last person that got that month-long sabbatical before it was discontinued, and oh yeah, the company closed their doors in 2001!!! Sometimes when you work in high-tech, you get cool benefits. They use 'em to steal away good people from other companies. Er, ENTICE people to join 'em, I mean! That was unusual, though. Most often, we get PTO of some sort (either combined vacation/sick or PTO and sick). Right now I'm getting 15 days PTO plus 5 days sick (I've been here for 2 years). The end of this month when my anniversary date occurs, I'll be getting an additional 3 days a year -- 18 days PTO plus 5 sick. PLUS 11 paid holidays and two floating holidays!!!

I do know if I needed to request a leave of absence, I can do so using the Medical, Family Leave, or Maternity policies. However, if I wanted a LOA for any other reason, I'd have to get prior approvals from everyone all the way up the ladder, and they could tell me nope, not happening. Or they could say go, but we won't guarantee your job will be waiting for you. Taking time off to participate in a reality TV show is probably not going to be something that most people in my company would understand. :-)

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 12:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
Tonight was a perfect way to prove my point.

It took BB sticking playdoh out there for these housemates to actually do something besides, sleep,eat and berate each other.

They have no ability to generate anything to do or discuss on their own. It is all very sad. Seeing how well they did with the playdoh it seems to me that it is ridiculous that nobody has come up with a single thing to do in there that was no supported by a BB supplied and intended prop.

In some 20 seasons of various BB, I have not seen a group less capable of being interesting or entertaining to us or themselves than this one.

Iheartkaysar
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08-16-2005

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 12:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iheartkaysar a private message Print Post    
One way I think the house could be more interesting is if the people who are "evicted" (name would have to be changed) stay in the house. They don't vote or compete, they are just there. Imagine how tough that would be, to vote someone out of the game, then have to live with them.

Of course, as I'm typing this, I realize that means Ronnie would be in the house all summer and I'm not sure I could live with that. . . but it's a thought.

Cornea
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09-02-2005

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 6:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cornea a private message Print Post    
Many professional jobs allow you to take unpaid leave (including mine). A woman I work with wanted to tour Isreal for 3 months and took that time off - unpaid of course. Most of these 20 somethings are wannabe models and actors, no? I'm sure they don't have jobs that are too serious. I'd think if I was a 22-25 year old waitress, I'd chuck my job for a chance at 500K.

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 6:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
Iheartkaysar, that is a really interesting idea. Think of the damage the "evicted" ones could do when they no longer have anything personal at stake!