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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 8:38 am
I know his resolve is there not to tell anyone he has the power and thus lose it, but each day he seems to get closer and closer to inadvertently telling someone as he tries to calm down their worries. He came up to that line with Russell last night. Didn't cross it, but was oh-so-close. There's a long time to Thursday and a lot of angst in the house before then. Jeff likes to be the big protector (which is why I think he takes to Jordon), and I can easily see it slipping out either to calm Russell or to calm someone's fears about Jessie -- especially if he has too much to drink one evening and his tongue gets loosened.
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Slinkydog
Member
11-30-2005
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 8:50 am
Well, then I guess it is a good thing he is a have-not this week and can't drink.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 8:51 am
I agree with you What555. I think he's smart enough to walk that line and actually everyone in the house is assuming he has it so it's making these final days even more trying for him. So far he's done great. Let's pray he can make it to Thursday!!
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 8:51 am
LOL Slinky
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Aurora
Member
11-24-2006
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 8:53 am
Funny you mention Jeff and drinking. Last night Russell came out to the back yard with a bottle of Merlot. Jeff got mad that he couldn't drink and said they'd better have a big ol' keg waiting for him after he's no longer a have not. lol
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 8:54 am
Poor Jeff, I'm a beer girl myself and might go nutso if I couldn't drink a cold one for a whole week lmao
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 9:24 am
There's too much on the line here, I'm certain Jeff understands that! I hope he will just run to the DR to vent whenever necessary! OTOH, I'm thinking that, we are thinking much stricker than the Big Brother does. Keep in mind BB wants this to work out as much as we do. TPTB wants a happy moment for J&J as much as we do. I think, or I want to believe 1) Jeff will continue doing great at keeping the secret. 2) DR will remind Jeff constantly and 3) BB will not be so tight on that rule! 
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 10:23 am
BB wants their shocking moment Thursday (and they know Jeff will use it). So unless Jeff DELIBERATELY tells someone he has it, they'll let it slide...
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 11:09 am
I agree that BB desperately wants this to work. So I think Jeff would have to be pretty blatant about telling someone for BB not to allow him to use it. Something along the line of, "Russell, Don't worry so much. Things could change." isn't obvious enough for him to lose the power. It would have to be something really obvious like, "Jordan, I have the power and I'm going to use it on Thursday."
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Mary1971
Member
07-28-2009
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 11:09 am
Does anyone wonder why everyone thinks Jeff has the Power except Jordan? She doesn't even question him about it at all? Either she thinks he has it and doesn't want to ruin it or she really has no clue? Why wouldn't she think he has it?
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 11:34 am
She asked him about it the other night and he told her he didn't and was hoping she had it. Haven't heard her mention it since, but Jordan seems to pick up on things going on in the house pretty quickly sometimes and I'm thinking she probably realized the other side of the house didn't have it (or they'd have taken Ronnie or Lydia off last week,) she doesn't have it, and that only really leaves Jeff and doesn't want to push that too hard so that he admits it.
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 11:40 am
I think the DR is being what Jordan is to Jeff this week which is why he's always being called to the DR. Jordan is Jeff's sounding board and he can't talk to her this week like he normally would. Having said that, I am sure the DR is giving him great advice on how to handle situations when hgs talk to him about the secret power as well as coaching him up on how to ask certain how they would vote if Natalie/Jessie are nominated without being obvious. I am confident Jeff will be well prepared on Thursday night. Re Jordan not knowing: I believe she was clueless until she talked to JNC in the hoh room on Saturday night. Following that conversation she met Jeff at the hammock and confirmed with him the only reason they are not targets this week is because everyone thinks they have the power. She knows she doesn't have it so it may have occurred to her that Jeff has it, but she's keeping it to herself out of respect for Jeff knowing he cannot talk about it.
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Lillian
Member
07-29-2009
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 11:46 am
re Jordan not knowing - I think it's as simple as he told he didn't, and she believes him.
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Mary1971
Member
07-28-2009
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 11:48 am
Lillian- I think your right. I honestly think Jordan doesn't think he has it. I think she's ditzy if she can't even suspect him? She only mentioned it once and let it go. I thought it was strange.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 12:20 pm
I think because she 'mentioned it once and let it go' means that she knows he has it, and she doesn't want him to lose it by asking too many questions. Also, he tells her a lot: 'I think we're gonna be ok' - she picks up on that, and she knows. I'll be really surprised if she tells Jeff after Thursday that she didn't know.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 12:35 pm
Chere, I hope the DR is NOT coaching Jeff on how to not lose it or how to handle it. I koow BB has a lot more control over all of these HG's than they let on, but it would be wrong for BB to be Jeff's secret partner in this.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 12:54 pm
Of course the DR is "Jeff's secret partner in this"...just as we were in awarding it to him. The DR has always influenced the HG so I have no problem with them "helping" along those who are actually likeable for a change.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 1:09 pm
The DR is "Big Brother". Big Brother does what it wants. That's one of the reasons why the show was originally called Big Brother. It's kind of a part of the game that has largely been lost in the American version.
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Lillian
Member
07-29-2009
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 1:35 pm
I hope that DR is answering all Jeff's questions (goodness knows we seem to have many), but not trying to influence his decisions. Jimmer, that may be so, but I'd like to think this is America - land of the free and all that - and DR is there to get interviews and maybe help out when they lose it, but otherwise leave the game itself alone.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 2:09 pm
Well I'm not saying whether it is right or wrong but it is completely different to the way the game works in other countries. In other countries, Big Brother basically does what it wants and frequently irritates the blazes out of the house guests. The other difference is that in other countries the winning amount is not fixed. There are ongoing fines for house guest misbehavior (singing, microphone obstruction, whispering, etc.) that are deducted from the prize and these fines aren't insignificant. However, all of the above is out in the open for the viewers to see which makes it fun for the viewer. Hopefully, the DR wouldn't privately influence Jeff too much. I'd love it if they would show us the DR's on the live feeds but I guess they have to keep something for the show (however, the DR's lately have been so uninteresting that they wouldn't be losing much).
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 2:25 pm
"the DR's lately have been so uninteresting that they wouldn't be losing much." Actually Jimmer, I think it's just the DR's that production SHOWS US that are uninteresting. I'm sure they have tons of great footage of the houseguests' meltdowns and STRATEGY, but AG prefers to make 'spokesmodels' out of the houseguests and have them describe what they see in the backyard for a comptetion....boring!! This is why I don't watch the show except when I'm forced to on Thurdays. The show really sucks.
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Lillian
Member
07-29-2009
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 2:33 pm
Agree Rosem re purpose of DR - basically to narrate the show. One thing I noticed they no longer do though, thank goodness, is those useless bits when Julie would say, "before the vote, let's visit the DR and see what the HGs are thinking" and then you'd have them all giving reasons one way or the other, I guess to confuse us on the vote. Happily they no longer waste time with that.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 2:37 pm
Oh agree with that Rosem. The DR has largely become expository and rather dull. The old "So we go out into the backyard and there is this big ....". It would be fantastic if we could see the juicy stuff.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 2:38 pm
Lillian, that's what they did or do on the occasions they tape the voting instead of having live voting.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 3:02 pm
"...land of the free...." Big Brother can still manipulate this game without infringing on anyone's "rights". Everyone who chooses to play this game KNOWS its called Big Brother. None of them are being forced against their will to bend to BB's manipulations. Everyone is there because they WANT to be their. I think the DR and other production powers that be have the right to run their game as they see fit...It is afterall called BIG BROTHER... not BIG LAND OF THE FREE...
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Iheartkaysar
Member
08-16-2005
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 7:41 pm
The HG also know that America chose this winner, so once the highly delusional Ronnie was out, they could figure out who America likes and doesn't. Thus, Jeff is a logical choice. And I agree that unless he flat out says "I have it" as a threat, BB is not going to take this away. They didn't even publicize when Boogie lost it, and he was not popular with viewers at all. Taking it back would create a big dud of a twist. Jeff is okay.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 7:51 pm
Jeff, so far so good in keeping it secret or deflecting, however, now that the POV issue is solved, he will be bombarded with innuendos and threats by the "opposition" and he will have to sooner or later tell them all to go take a hike and leave him alone and ask them, why are you so sure I have the power? and why are you so sure that Jessie and Natalie would be my targets? I don't have it, you don't have it, she doesn't have it, he doesnt' have it, stop guessing and stop bugging me about it. Anyway, on Thursday you'll know one way or the other, no use bugging me about it. This would be Jeff's only solution in handling this added pressure, tell them to stop harassing him about it. Since he can't even negotiate, he better put a stop to all their speculations. If they insist would only be to make him reveal his secret and lose the power. However, Jeff does not think like me, he will keep deflecting and maybe giving some hints, which is bad. There is no more POV, so he can't keep saying "have faith" to Russell, if he keeps saying that, then it will be so clear he has it. Of course, there are so many ways to show he has it, he doesn't need to make the mistake of saying it. If they all keep saying "hypotetically", I think Jeff may have a chance of negotiating with Russell to make sure Jessie goes and get protection for the next nominations if Russell or Lydia win HOH. But he has to walk a very fine line and I have my doubts... for exemple, it took Jordan (after she came from the HOH meeting) to tell him that the reason they were not on the block is because they fear he has the power, until then I don't think he even thought that could have been the reason. He knows Russ is just as bad as Jessie but Russ is still better to keep than Jessie. If he changes his mind now something may have scared him and when you're scared you lose.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 8:23 pm
If challenged, Jeff can start pointing out that it is likely Jessie or Nat have it, since they are the ones trying so hard to point the finger at others. Only reason they would do so is to cover up that one of them has it. Or Chima obviously has it. All her blustering is just to cover up. Or so he could say.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 8:30 pm
If all the questions are bugging him, he should just say: "You think I have the power. I DON'T have the power but you are still driving me positively CRAZY about it! The thing is, IF I had the power....and I am NOT saying I do....but IF I did, I'd make sure that I evicted the next person that comes to me and bugs me about it.....IF I had it, that is..."
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 12:22 am
I don't know.. Jeff strikes me as a guy who does not have too much trouble keeping secrets. Sure he might want to share the good news with Jordan, but I doubt he has any overwhelming compulsion to share a secret. I think that is something that tends to afflict females a lot of times (not all.)... Most normal guys though do not have a need to share something they know and nobody else knows. Sure they might do it to achieve a specific goal, but they would not do it in the face of serious consequence with no real benefit. IE I don't think he needs to gossip. Jeff is not a big talker anyways... I suspect the fewer words he can speak the better off he feels in general. So not talking about something is not hard.
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 5:37 am
I know I have seen enough BB to know that gossip is more prevalant with the men than the women. We are talking about keeping a secret. That is a personal decision.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 6:17 am
When Jeff was informed that he was given the coup d'etat, he fully grasped its value and said he'd use it wisely. I'm not at all worried that he'd admit to having it and lose this opportunity to both save Russell and get rid of Jessie or Nat.
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