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Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Okay, so we now know Jeff has the power. What will he do to hide it? It's obvious to them that none of Ronnie's supporters won and neither did Lydia because she did not use it. So the others will know that either Jeff, Jordan, Kevin or Michelle have it. How long will it take for them to know who has it...they probably already know.

So, how is Jeff gonna handle the Coup d'Etat?
The important thing is to hide it well and not a whisper about it, otherwise, he's toast. The others know the danger and I wonder if they'll try to confuse him into revealing it somehow... if he stays strong and dumb looking about the power, good for him. But I'm a bit worried...

Of course, come next Monday, right after POV ceremony, he'll use it and the suspense will end. He will use it because for sure either Jordan or Jeff or even Kevin and Michele will be up and Jeff will use it just to nominate two of Jessie's gang. I hope Natalie and Jessie will be his replacements, unless Jessie wins POV, at least Natalie will be gone. I hope so..

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 6:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I don't think he uses it Monday after the POV ceremony. I think he uses it live on Thursday night right before the vote so the two people he nominates will not have any time to campaign.

Kajunmommiee
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07-12-2005

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kajunmommiee a private message Print Post    
he cant use it till the live eviction so no one has time to think about who to vote off. his best bet is to us it regarless and put up like jess and nat if they dont win pov.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I don't think he has to use it until next eviction. So NEXT Thursday, he can replace the nominees and no one has a chance to campaign to stay.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
oh that's rigth, it's better to wait for the live eviction... but it will make it more difficult to keep it until then, I think come Monday he'll be ready to squeal it to everybody and use it!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 7:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
He can't tell anyone he has it or he will lose the power, even though they can pretty much figure out that either Jeff, Jordan, Russell or Michele have it since no one used it tonight to save Ronnie and Lydia.

Mindeegap
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07-20-2009

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mindeegap a private message Print Post    
Jeff already told Jordan that if they get HOH they would put up Jesse and Natalie, if one got the pov, they would put up Russell as replacement. I'm pretty sure he was also talking about his wizard powers without telling her because this was after we had already speculated that he had them.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
The silent understanding would be with Jordan only, but how to get assurance from Kevin and Michelle that he's got their votes to kick either Jessie or Natalie. Poor Jeff can't even try to campaign for whoever he wants gone for fear of being discovered!!!

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
If he were to put up Jesse and Natalie tight before the votes... everyone would have to vote based on their own thoughts How do you think the votes would be split?

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 7:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
If they were to vote on the spot without campaigning I guess Jessie will be gone for sure because of a few reasons:

He got a second chance
He can win endurance comps
Natalie can't win a thing

What I don't understand is why they don't know what the power is. I thought when Julie asked them to reveal and use it, wasn't it obvious that it was to change nominations? And Chima said, my nominations may not count anything, so they must know what the power is, but many of them are still wondering... at least Jeff keps saying, it could be anything. Just keep saying that.

Lyn
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08-07-2002

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 7:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lyn a private message Print Post    
I too think he should wait until voting next thurs and replace the noms with Nat and Jesse

Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 7:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kminfinity a private message Print Post    
Spunky, see my answer in Q&A.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
I think there is no chance that he will prematurely reveal it.

I do think the nominations will play a role in what happens. I *THINK* it would be best if Jeff put up Natalie and Jesse regardless of who else is up.

Fortunately with Chima having HOH they both will feel real confident and perhaps less interested in going for the POV, for instance. It may have been the best of all worlds to have Chima win. She probably won't put them up, and it still leaves him the option to do something.

I am afraid he will feel comfortable just staying safe this week and not use it, but Jeff was saying last night he needs to make a big move if given the opportunity. He has the opportunity and a big move would be to put up Natalie and Jesse.

It will be interesting to see if Chima really puts up Russ, or tries to backdoor him. I would also suspect Jeff could proffer a deal to Russ if he was on the block telling him he could help keep him from getting kicked out. Without revealing he has the power.

I suspect a lot of suspicion will fall on Michelle for having the power.

I just hope and pray Jesse ends up going home because of it. I think the house dynamic will be very interesting with the current people minus Jesse.

Sstahl64
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03-13-2008

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 8:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sstahl64 a private message Print Post    
It is gonna be so funny to see Chima get her reversed. We know Michelle will be one that is put up and maybe Russell! I hope Jessie or Natalie gets the boot next week though!

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 8:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
I had another thought seeing how Jeff called Jesse out about his comment to Jordan about using the hat. Jeff very well may be less polite to Jesse this week trying to provoke him. Jesse feels he is in a power position again, so if Jeff keeps provoking him and makes the real Jesse front and center, when it comes down to a quick last minute vote, it will be more likely people will want to get rid of Jesse.

At least I can dream he is thinking that way.

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 8:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
I hope that when Jeff changes the nominations he can sneak in a quick sentenace about who he really wants to leave.

Padivius
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08-21-2003

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 8:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Padivius a private message Print Post    
I think a key point is that none of them really know exactly what the Mystery Power is. It could be any number of things related to nominations or votes.

Also, they can't completely rule out Lydia (or Ronnie) because for all they know, there was a clause on the Mystery Power stipulating it could not be used on oneself. Certainly, they can assume and make a correct guess, though.

I think Jeff just needs to play this week as though he has no Coup d'État power and hope he can nominate Jessie and Natalie (or if one wins POV, then Russell). After that, he can let the chips fall where they may. At least one of them will go.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 8:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
Now I am kind of hoping that Jeff and Jordan get nominated by Chima. All Jeff would have to do is convince Jordan that they are okay, and they could have a real cool and relaxing week. Play hard for the POV but otherwise very chill and just hang out with no strife.

Nobody else would be on the block so they would not be harshing the atmosphere, and Jesse would be going absolutely insane about how cool and easy going they are both being up.

Sure it might at first seem hard to get Jordan to calm down, but if he explains it in a long term way that for them to proceed ahead together she has to trust him at some point, and she really has to trust him now it could work...

I would love to see Jeff and Jordan just having fun all week, others relaxing a bit for not being up and Jesse and Natalie freaking out all week long.

It makes no difference if everyone else knows one of them has it... They don't even know for sure what "it" is, and even if they did there is very little they could do about.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 10:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Now I am kind of hoping that Jeff and Jordan get nominated by Chima.

That's what Jeff said wishfully but jokingly shortly after the live show!

It'll be hard to calm Jordan. But I just thought of another excellent scenario: Jeff should win the POV, use it on Jordan so she doesn't freak the rest of the week. And that will win lots of brownie points from everyone for Jeff.

Usually, none of our BB wishes come true. But since we're on a roll here, let's dream big!

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Friday, August 07, 2009 - 12:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunrvrose a private message Print Post    
It seems that all of the HG also know jeff has the power, and have a pretty good idea what it is. So Chima has to be very confused about who to nominate, I sure would be if I were her.

I'm sure that the whole house knows that J & J are an unbreakable alliance. So, they all should know that none of them have a chance as long as the JJ alliance is not broken up.

The whole coupling thing messes things up every season...Why don't J & J get it.

I think it is also too late for them to do a fake fight. Basically, after Jeff uses the power next week, he and Jordan are sunk, unless they win every HOH from now on.

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Friday, August 07, 2009 - 12:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunrvrose a private message Print Post    
Oh, another thought, FWIW, I think Jeff will put up nat and Jess, no matter whom Chima nominates, so at least we will get rid of one of them, but then, as I said above, the rest of the house will turn on J & J.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, August 07, 2009 - 1:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
If Lydia and Michele are on the block as has been hinted at.. then I fear Jeff may leave it the same, BUT he has spokenof going strong and not paranoid and that would be Jessie and Natalie or Jessie and Russell.. but I know he wants Jessie gone before Natalie.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, August 07, 2009 - 1:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
considering almost everyone knows jeff has it, it would be smart of Chima to ask jeff whom HE wants put up.

no doubt he will pussyfoot around the issue and say he wants to go eat toona...but the damage could be done.

IF jeff uses the Coup, he will be a target. since he was Voted in by the public, the other HG will be very threatened and will not want to leave him in the game.

OR it will go like it did with Dan. Once the HGs found out Dan was voted America Player they loved him and immediately he was "IN" with the crowd. Until week two dan was not part of anything

BUT i digress, to answer the question how will jeff handle it? I think he is going to get more and more cocky then nervous. thus making himself a target. unfortunately, I dont think he has any real grasp of hte game so Who knows what he will ultimately do.

Jadajean
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03-23-2008

Friday, August 07, 2009 - 2:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jadajean a private message Print Post    
I don't think the rest of the house will turn on Jeff and Jordan. Michele and Kevin will respect him for doing it. Russell who knows - will probably be happy that there's no blood on his hands. Lydia and Natalie could never work together to go after anyone. I believe people will be happy that someone had the balls to put them up. J&J are on borrowed time anyway - who would want to go to the final 2 with either of them.

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Friday, August 07, 2009 - 4:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
Well Jeff Totally trusts Russell, So unless He thinks whoever is on the block is going to be one less ally for him, I'm not sure what he would do! He may do nothing if Him and Jordan are not up! He doesn't trust Michelle, He know Lydia is Jesse's wipping post!
the Nat/Jess/Chi crew will figure he might have it as they all know they don't! They had a secret signal to give if one of them got it!
Although Nat seems to think Kevin may have it LOL