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Holly
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07-22-2001

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Julie admits in her blog that finding out she was called Chenbot really hurt her feelings. She went on about it at length, even going to her agent to talk about it. So I don't doubt that being called a Ho didn't go down too well with her, nor should it. And FWIW, her back was to the camera when Chima made her big claim to fame so I don't know if her face looked shocked or not. But the way her body tensed up, it looked like shock/surprise to me.

I just think she made it personal with Braden, something she's never done with any of the previous bigots, racists, and offenders.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
What cracks me up currently about Chima's remarks is that last night she kept bringing up that she really didn't think those remarks went out there. That CBS would clean it up and nobody would really know what she had said. It was almost as if she totally didn't realize it was a live show.

I just thought that was so weird. I think she kinda knows she stuck her foot in it with that one.

That being said, though, she DID have a point. It's just that she could have made that point in a different way and still have been every bit (maybe even more) effective.
She could have said something like...words I refuse to repeat because they are so offensive.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Thanks Beekind... But were Bradens comments ever played on the TVShow? I don't think so, so Julie's "attack" seemed to be misplaced. I could understand her asking Braden what he thought of Chima's speech (they showed it albiet bleeped) but her tenacious attack of Braden came from left field for the TVviewer...

I just think that if they were going to doggedly question him they needed to show his comments...

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
When Braden came out, they cut to another commercial and the Stage
Manager grabbed him, and started whispering very quickly into his ear. I
don't know what he said, but I had the impression he was telling him not
to mention the beaner and talk, since it had been cut from the
show.

---------------- According to some one in the audience.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.big-brother/msg/7c9d1e9f341d1313?hl=en&dmode=source

But I still think Braden could have tell us how sorry he was for saying those bad words w/o actually repeating them!

Holly
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07-22-2001

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
And the way she pushed him about how he felt about women, who was the most important woman in his life, and what would his mother think of him now...she was definitely focusing on the misogynistic aspect and I believe it was because of his comment about her more than anything else. There's no way she blew this off. It stung her and stung her hard.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Chy, we (i.e. television audience at home)didn't hear them on the show. Why should he apologise to us for something we didn't get to hear?

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Production did a great job editing that fight in order to weed out the offensive racial slurs.It is an 8pm(family hour)show afterall.
Editing made it look like the whole thing was over what Braden called Lydia and then Chima stands up on Live TV and says all the stuff that production tries to keep off the air.
I wish she would get a penalty nom just for pulling that crap.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
Oh my ~

First I kept calling Jesse "Jeff" and now I'm calling Julie "Connie". And to boot, someone will most likely declare me a 'racist' for making that mistake.

Apologies galore here!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Holly, I guess I was thinking about all of us who did hear him yelling at Kevin, Ly & Chima real time or from the then not-yet-deleted YT.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
There is no way that BB should be an 8 PM family show. They keep trying to fool the TV viewers and make it something it isn't and Chima got them on it. My sympathy for CBS is limited.

Glitterae
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08-02-2005

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glitterae a private message Print Post    
That interview was WAY too long...did that really air on the Early Show??? the whole thing??? Braden was great....and certainly , as some had implied did not smoke anything as it was right after the Live show...I don't believe for one minute Julie took offense on a personal level to him calling her anything...because she IS in this business she is quite immuned to that sort of stuff and certainly is smart enough to know that everything Braden said was with NO malice AND these are the people they WANT in the BB House..I am so tired of the over use of the word "racist" NO ONE in that house including Braden is racist. Using an inappropriate word in a fit of anger does NOT make you a racist it makes you a person that used an inappropriate word in anger!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Good one Jimmer!

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Julie may have been hurt, but the exit interview was not the forum for Julie to grill Braden. The TVviewer did not know of the comments and so I thought it looked unprofessional of Julie. I thought she was simply taking what Chima said in her exit speech and not letting it go...

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
It was obvious this was taped immediately after he exited and within moments of Chima's speech so to expect him to act like he had 10 hours to recoup and be more reflective is not realistic. It was obvious he had had enough of Chima and her group's antics and just wanted out of there.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I didn't particularly see Julie's interview (on the show or the Early Show) as a tenacious attack on Braden. Actually, I thought she was rather professional.

I haven't had a chance to watch the long version, so perhaps that is a tenacious attack, but just as the comments weren't on the show, neither will that tenacious attack be.

Glitterae
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08-02-2005

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glitterae a private message Print Post    
Exactly Kappy!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
This is the last time I'm going to say it, as I feel like I'm going around picking arguments, and I don't want to do that... but if anyone didn't see what Braden said to Kevin in context then they should really see it before they make excuses for him. It was not an inappropriate word said in anger it was a racist statement and it was only appropriate for Julie to try to call him on it in as direct a manner as the Early Show would allow.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Jimmer...last night when the showed Braden say B and S, that was my immediate thought, as well. Really? At 8pm

Glitter...the actual Early Show interview was VERY short.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
Bee ~ I think the reason I reacted to it so strongly is because she's never been so adamant before. If she continues to grill all of them this season for their bigotry, then great but something tells me she won't.

Glitterae
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08-02-2005

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glitterae a private message Print Post    
I saw it Kitt....We all have different opinions..

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Kitt... I am in no way making excuses for Braden. I did not see the comments and I really don't care to!! My only point is the comments were not seen by the TVviewer so any questioning by Julie went over our head. (I don't think they have ever cared about the internet viewers so I do believe that Julie's interview was for the benefit of the TV viewer)

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Well I'm shocked if you think that after you saw it, Glitterae, but each to their own.

Yeah, Bonbon, the editing on the show made it really awkward for any interview to be carried out that really made much sense.

Glitterae
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08-02-2005

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glitterae a private message Print Post    
Thanks Bee...I thought that was pretty crazy if they showed all of that on the Early Show.....

Glitterae
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08-02-2005

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glitterae a private message Print Post    
Kitt....I am sorry you are shocked.....I would NEVER call someone a racist for a word they used..yes it was wrong but to me refering to someone as a racist may be worse. We don't know anyone in that house or their beliefs, we just know that CBS planned for a volitile house and they got it...and I am not the judge of who they are as people.

Kittyab
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07-16-2005

Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
I didnt see it. I guess we all say stupid things out of anger.