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Mary1971
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07-28-2009

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 9:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mary1971 a private message Print Post    
Lillian- I totally agree!! Jordan is sweet but very childish and I think she may be a little "challenged"
PS: I like porn and I do not kiss guy friends or girlfriends on the lips. That is only saved for men I want get passionate with.

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 9:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
I think Jordan is juvenile in some ways but as some have said here, that makes it easier for her to hang with the boys.

I also think she is smart to not have sex with Jeff or anyone else on TV. I liked the advise, would you do it in front of your gramma or in church.

I do not think Jeff will pursue a long term relationship with Jordan and she doesn't seem to be the kinda girl who wants a quickie. So good for her.

I am disappointed though that she is not also modest about being naked in the house. On the other hand, it may be nearly impossible not to get caught in a boobie shot so maybe she decided not to fight it.


Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I think those who have sons understand what I mean. She is a down to earth girl with very few filters, that does not make her challenged. What is so wrong with a girl who isn't easy? She has some boundaries, and I'm sure her folks are thankful for that. She has mentioned her dad leaving them and I'm sure she has reservations about giving in before she knows if it is real. I just wish she'd get a break and not be perceived as stupid. If it weren't for her Jeff would probably be on the Jesse train.

Gidget
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07-28-2002

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Juvenile and stupid are not the same thing. Just as unsophisticated and stupid are not the same thing.

And I agree about Lydia. Her behavior is troublesome. She is the kinda girl that guys use. And then snicker about behind her back. She has not learned that sex is not a tool and until she does she won't likely have any satisfying relationships.


Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 9:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
People who have breast enhancements have a tendency to like to show them. I know 2 people who have had boob jobs and they will show them to anyone....they'll even ask "hey wanna see my new boobs" to relative strangers, male or female.

Snuggling and hugging is fine in the house, to an extent and I am so not not a prude. If Jeff thinks he's going to do the deed with Jordan in the house then he's not the guy I think he is.

I'd have a fit if my daughter had sex in the BB house, regardless (to use Jesse's over used word) of how old she was. She could have sex all she wants but not on tv for me, her father, friends or relatives to see.

And just because you cuddle and kiss doesn't mean it has to go any farther. If Jeff gas issues that he can't just cuddle without having to to the deed then don't cuddle with Jordan in the house. He should cuddle with Lydia cuz she'd be likely to give Jeff a happy ending.

Aurora
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11-24-2006

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I don't for a minute think Jordan is stupid. Maybe she's not book smart, but I'd put her up against Michelle and her PHD any day as far as interacting with people or situations in and out of the house. She's very perceptive.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 9:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Amen Lilfair. Jeff isn't pushing hard for the heavy stuff because I truly think he respects Jordan and trusts her. Sex and smooching doesn't equate love to me. Trust and respect must come before any physical relationship. IMO being bffs is the best way to fall in love. When they have time alone, away from this house and those people and those cameras maybe they will start a physical relationship and one that possibly will last or not.

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
Jeff isn't pushing hard for the heavy stuff

He has repeatedly said that he has a life and a job outside the house, and he doesn't want his behavior in the house to ruin his life outside. Smart man! I think Jordan feels the same way and he respects that.}

Jenjackso
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02-10-2009

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 9:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jenjackso a private message Print Post    
This is such an interesting conversation. I'm completely impressed with both Jeff and Jordan and how slow they've taken it and how they've developed a deep friendship without just jumping into sex.

I am liberally oriented and know that my kids will have sex, before they're married, and am open with them about that; however, my husband and I decided to wait to have sex until we were married (three years together before marriage and 17 years married now) and we did and it was really special and we have a deep connection and a very satisfying and intimate relationship both as friends in our everyday life and in bed. We did make out and sleep in the same bed, but we built a relationship not based on the sex.

We are great friends and when we have marital issues that might cause divorce in others because of the amount of stress involved in the down times, we are friends first and foremost and rely on each other deeply. I believe that we built that together, when creating our foundation.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Jenjakso I have the same kind of relationship with my husband. We have been married 39 years and been best friends for 41. I also am very liberal as were my parents (no choice navy brat). Once my sons were 18 I never stopped them from having girls spend the night as long as they were of age. However I would have been very unhappy had they been on tv expressing their manly skills nor would I have wanted any young woman giving herself away. What parent wants to watch their own kid having a private relationship on their screen. I would never watch the show. EWWWWWWWWWWWw

Chere
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08-10-2005

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 10:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
I think you all are taking Jordan's behavior way too seriously. Jordan talking about normal bodily functions is her attempt at being humorous in a house full of crazies. It breaks up the tension and it's something everyone can relate to. Not a big deal, taking into account she's only 22 years old.

Re Jordan's relationship with Jeff, I think they are both handling it well- nice and slow. I don't know why people feel like its necessary for them to define their relationship while playing the game. I know watching their relationship evolve is a nice distraction to the ugliness we see in the house, but I hope both of them keep their eyes on the prize and put the relationship/feelings on the back burner. They will have all the time in the world when bb11 is over to define their relationship. In the meantime, I hope their bond continues to grow strong as they sharpen their bb skills to take out the <24> one-by-one and conquer the bb house with their playful charm.

I don’t know if anyone else has noticed, but J/J have become better players at this game. It has taken them a few weeks to catch up with all the scheming and craziness but they have a good grasp about what is going on in the house. Instead of obsessing over Jordan being a typical 22 y/o and getting caught up in the showmance of their relationship, SPEND MORE TIME listening to their game talk, which the best of happens in the hammock during BBAD, and you will understand what I am saying.

Rosem4243
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06-27-2005

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
Chere - well said, and I agree 100%.

I'm very impressed that J/J are keeping it clean, and not losing their dignity on Nat'l TV or the internet.

I know exactly what your saying about their game talk - I've enjoyed it immensley as well as their flirting and talking about other things besides the game.

I think I'd be disappointed in them both, if they 'went all the way', and I'm very liberal and NOT a prude.

There's a time and a place for everything, Jordan and Jeff understand that, and I'm proud of them.

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
Chere, I agree with you! I was thinking the same thing last night watching Jordan and Jeff with drunk Russell. They have become much better players, and I think BB has been a growth experience for both of them- especially Jordan. Jeff keeps on telling her she's not dumb and is his true game partner and she's responding to that. Jeff as well has gained a great deal of confidence in the game since he became the Wizard! He knows he's doing OK.

The two of them are making this whole season for me.

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 10:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
I will say that Jordan seems to be spending a lot more time talking to people other than Jeff these days, and you're right Jeff has really woken up his game since America gave him some responsibility and support.

Missyb
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07-28-2004

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Great post Chere. I agree with you and have been thinking just that in my head but have not been able to express it quite so elequently and politely !!!!
Forgive me if I repost it from time to time just to bring back some realistic perspective .

Efilon
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09-20-2005

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 11:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Efilon a private message Print Post    
Jeff talked with someone in the house about he and Jordan as far as a relationship outside the house. He told them that they've talked about it but are waiting until they are out. Do some texting and phone calls and that then it might end up that they would both go on with their lives as very good friends. I can't remember who he was talking to but it was outside and whomever was in the hottub and he was sitting on the patio step smoking.

Chere
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08-10-2005

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 11:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
Efilon- Jeff had that conversation with Chima in the hoh room on Friday night. In fact, Jeff and Jordan talked about it in the green room right before he went to the hoh room.

Efilon
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09-20-2005

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LOL HOH vs Hot tub. Well, at least I got part of it right. Thanks Chere, didn't think I dreamed up that conversation.

Wendy
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07-16-2009

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Thank you for all the great posts Chere, Missy, Km, Earthmother, Rose,Jen and all the other like minds for getting those two. Both gamewise and their relationship.

Sometimes I feel like I am the only one who feel the way the way I do about them, together and separately. You made this thread an interesting read.

Mary1971
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07-28-2009

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 12:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mary1971 a private message Print Post    
<24>
I love Jeff & Jordan and they are the reason I watch BB. But I do still think Jordan is acting immature and Jeff deserves better. I am sure after BB he'll find better too.

Lillian
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07-29-2009

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lillian a private message Print Post    
Agree Mary - one of the interesting things about BB is how fans react, as much as the HGs themselves.

Again and again we see that if some people love a player, they can do no wrong; and conversely, if they hate them, they can do no right. The beauty of BB is that people are not black and white - everyone has some good and some bad, and that's what makes it interesting. At least to me.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 12:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
To me, Jordon is simply ignorant of so much and has been far too protected. I also do not like women who play the little weak woman game, which she does a lot.

Jeff? He's a guy who likes to control and he likes to be the protective man. He also likes to be the authority. Jordon lets him do this and it feeds his male ego.

After the game? They may stay in touch, but that is a far as it will go. As Jeff has said, he has a life to return to -- which he intends on doing and Jordon is no part of that. Jordon? She'd never make it in the big city.

Closetfanfour
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07-11-2009

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Closetfanfour a private message Print Post    
I think you all are taking Jordan's behavior way too seriously. Jordan talking about normal bodily functions is her attempt at being humorous in a house full of crazies. It breaks up the tension and it's something everyone can relate to. Not a big deal, taking into account she's only 22 years old.

Re Jordan's relationship with Jeff, I think they are both handling it well- nice and slow. I don't know why people feel like its necessary for them to define their relationship while playing the game. I know watching their relationship evolve is a nice distraction to the ugliness we see in the house, but I hope both of them keep their eyes on the prize and put the relationship/feelings on the back burner. They will have all the time in the world when bb11 is over to define their relationship. In the meantime, I hope their bond continues to grow strong as they sharpen their bb skills to take out the <24> one-by-one and conquer the bb house with their playful charm.

I don’t know if anyone else has noticed, but J/J have become better players at this game. It has taken them a few weeks to catch up with all the scheming and craziness but they have a good grasp about what is going on in the house. Instead of obsessing over Jordan being a typical 22 y/o and getting caught up in the showmance of their relationship, SPEND MORE TIME listening to their game talk, which the best of happens in the hammock during BBAD, and you will understand what I am saying.



I completely agree with you! :-) Go, Jeff and Jordan! :-)

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 1:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
See, this is why I don't like Jesse being in the house. I feel like J/J have made a natural progression in how the game is played by being in the house. Having Jesse there to school the others on what he thinks it should be is not a natural progression and that is why we have had such maliciousness so early in the game.

Jenjackso
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02-10-2009

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jenjackso a private message Print Post    
Jordan is not ignorant. She is very aware of people. Her perception is very spot on. She seems to file it in her head and it comes out every once in awhile. Our whole family has been watching and is always surprised that she has noticed certain things going on.

I don't see her letting Jeff walk all over her or control her. She has her own mind and seems to know it well and I don't see her being pushed around easily.