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Debra
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11-20-2003

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 7:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Debra a private message Print Post    
The Current Live Feed Discussions thread has already been revamped, revised and limited over the years. You can't force people to post highlights, they do it out the goodness of their hearts.

Limiting the Live Feed Discussions thread is just not the answer, imho. Let the people who have the live feeds enjoy watching them together in a place they can have fun with each other and with the non live feeders who enjoy it too.

Whenever I see questions posted in the Quick Q & A they are answered in a timely manner by some kind soul.

Again just my humble opinion.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Debra, as a nonfeeder, I do not see the discussions thread enjoyable. I know I am not alone in that vein. Also, as a person who has asked questions in Q&A, I know -firsthand- they are often not answered. (went over this last night in detail.)

At any rate, I am not trying to rain on anyone's parade. Just trying to express my view about threads that seem to have made TVCH not as "user-friendly" as it's been in the past. Especially for those without feeds.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 8:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I've seen this the past couple of seasons... people with live feeds spend all their time chattering in the discussions thread, and no one actually posts the transcripts in the LFPs. This happened last season, and may have been one of the reasons I lost interest. I couldn't keep up with the happenings in the house, so instead resorted to just seeing what CBS chose to show me on the nights the show aired.

WRT to twitter, there is no way I would follow someone who's tweeting what is going on in the house. I follow enough people as it is and it's already hard to keep up with them (most of them are peers or work related, although a few are other outside interestes). So telling someone to go follow someone's tweets isn't really a good answer. If we wanted to go somewhere else to find our information, don't you think we would've?

I do miss the LFPs. I could pop in a couple of times a day and catch up on the goings on. I do NOT go into the LF discussions because there is far too much chaff to sift thru.

(I find it intersting that those who post regularly in the LF discussion thread think it's useful, and those who don't have the live feeds don't. So whether you think there is a clique or not, there most certainly is a haves vs have nots here).

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Well said Costa!!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I agree with Debra and I dont have the feeds.

You can't force ppl to write updates and force ppl to post in certain areas. We are already down many posters and if ppl are made to feel guilty for not posting in certain threads they will just not post period.

This site is free, ppl post because they like to help ppl. Bee takes tons of time posting in the youtube thread and answers questions. If it really feels cliquish then get the free feed trial and see if that would make this place more enjoyable for you.

I like the discussion thread and never feel like an outsider or an outlaw!

this thread is for quick questions and answers and now all this discussion will make ppl have to wade thru this thread to find their answers.

Amykat
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07-24-2005

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 8:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Amykat a private message Print Post    
Mssan, the way I understand it is you can never nom from your clique. Original noms or replacement noms.

Debra
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11-20-2003

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 8:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Debra a private message Print Post    
Thanks Pamy and also thanks for expanding on what I was trying to say. It is like you were in my head, lol.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 9:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
I agree with Debra too - but I want a place where I can chat (like this thread is becoming?) but I dont have the LF - so I dont know how to "jump in" with the LF Discussion!

I also agree with Jimmer about the thread Julie tried to start - I dont have an answer -

just questions!! Where, why, how?



Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 9:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kminfinity a private message Print Post    
Inserting my 2 cents:

I don't have live feeds and enjoy the Current Live Feed Discussions thread. Yes it veers all over the place, and yes posters sometimes post stuff without context so I'm wondering wth the comment means....but when I ask, people respond. often several people... I do get a *live* sense of the game as Bee mentioned, so I like that.

I think the bigger issue is the what Julie said about having 10 or 15 minutes and you just wanna know the "quick scoop." I don't know the answer to that. Maybe the Important House Happenings thread can remain the biggie stuff such as comp winners, MAJOR gameplay moves, etc...

but there could be a Daily Highlights thread and people could post FACTUAL content with no discussion. Sort of a stripped down live feed thread. Of course, it would only be successful if the people posting in the Current Live Feed Discussions thread stopped in and posted quick updates. So it might suffer the same inattention as the Live Feeds nowadays...

edited to add: And I see (Julie) has started a thread similar to what I suggested...maybe a better name? lol

Thanks for updated, bblagirl!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 9:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - If some people don't like the name of the Important/Interesting House Happenings thread maybe we should change it to the name of the thread that Julie started. The intent is identical. Providing a quick summary of some interesting event that has happened in the house.

I just don't get the difference.

At this point though, whatever people want is fine. We may review this later to avoid duplication but generally speaking if people want to post in certain threads that's where they post.

As far as the Live Feed Posting goes, people contribute to the board in different ways. No one should feel guilty or be made to feel guilty about what and where they choose to post! If people enjoy Live Feed Discussion then go for it. If people want to create threads about specific topics, please go ahead and start them. Have fun and enjoy the board. :-)

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
To me the diff is this:

In the IHH thread; people seem to post in there every once in a while. Sometimes consistently but A LOT is missed. What I wanted the new thread to do is cover all important house happenings (and a lot of this is subjective) so some may only think to include noms/povs and the like, excluding things like who is trying to get who out. Hope that makes enough sense and clarifies things...

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Not sure I just made enough sense. I would like the new thread to cover more than just the IHH. TO me IHH is just the facts. Who is nommed. Who got POV. Who got the boot.

The feedless thread would cover bullet points of certain things like who is currently banding together with who. Who just got in a fight. Who just let out what secret. Those types of things...

Hope that is better clarification...

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Well it does make sense Julie except that those items that you mentioned is what the Important/Interesting House Happenings thread was for in the first place and that is what I have rather fruitlessly been trying to explain over and over again. But if some people are more willing to post more of the things that were supposed to go in the Important/Interesting House Happenings in a different thread with a different name then that is better than not having them posted at all.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
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If it is finally clear to everyone that the old thread serves the same purpose, I really think it's crazy to have both threads. Not just crazy, but a pain. Because some will post in one, and some in the other.

Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kminfinity a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, you're right of course. But I think folks are afraid their *happening* isn't important enough, so they don't post. I know I've occasionally posted a quick summary of BBAD in the Current thread when someone asked a Q but didn't put it in the IHH thread in case it wasn't *important enough.*

Naja
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06-28-2003

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Kmin, I think that's why "/interesting" was added to the title of the thread by whoever started it.

Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kminfinity a private message Print Post    
Naja, I disagree. While the title of the new thread is long, it gives the right flavor for what is expected. IMO, the IHH thread is intimidating too many posters into not posting much. Evidence? It's low post count and this very discussion. Maybe that's not the intent, but that's the result.

And I am certain that it is NOT "clear to everyone." If only because not everyone has been in THIS thread following the discussion....

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
LOL - too many opinions!! I look at the IHH as "important" just the bare facts -

whereas I posted the link of the recap that was a bit more informative - yet ITA with Jimmer, he posts on the Live happenings (which I do find fun, and I do want to participate in the "fun" bantering - Live feed thread is more like "chat" )

ITA with a name change tho!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Yes that's why we added "interesting" because of concerns that people were intimidated about posting in that thread. But we want people to post short summaries or even one sentence of what is going on. Not detailed stuff like Live Feed Posting but summaries. And fun stuff as well. Just no discussion (which is what the associated thread is for). The no discussion is just so the thread doesn't turn into the Live Feed Discussion thread and people can find a quick summary of what is happening in the house.

In fact, last season we were doing summaries of the Live Feed Postings and putting the summaries in the I/IHH thread.

We can change the name to make it less intimidating if people think it will encourage people to post more.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 10:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
hmmm name change - how about Live feed summary? (as a name change?) - because I just checked the Live Feed thread - and thought that's all we're asking for - sometimes the Live Feeds cant transcribe some of that talking - but we get a link for youtube, etc

I do enjoy the Live Feed discussion thread btw!

maybe Important Highlights is too intimadating? maybe "summary" would help??

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
i know u cant nominate from ur own clique, but what about as a replacement during pov ceremony?

No. You cannot put anyone from your clique on the block.
You can, however, vote for someone in your clique if they're on the block.


what's on the agenda for the hamsters today?

POV Ceremony.


but I dont have the LF - so I dont know how to "jump in" with the LF Discussion!

Just come in there and say, Hi guys, what's happening in the house right now. I have NEVER seen an instance where people just ignore anyone. I have seen a little time go by, particularly if they are just sunning or something.
People keep saying it's "clique-ish" but I just don't see that.
I DO see running jokes start and carry thru the whole season, but everyone is invited in on those jokes and even they are explained when someone asks about them.
What Pamy says is true. If we try to limit how/what people post, it's going to shrink up even more.
People keep saying that people without Feeds don't understand, but I will repeat that there are several days a week when I don't have Feeds, so I DO understand. And I have always found the information I am looking for and come back home to my Feeds with an understanding of what's going on in the house from what people have posted.
As for "searching through millions of YouTubes"...I post every good highlight, clearly labeled, to give a reference and time-line of what is happening in the house and I know that others do, too, because when I get back home, I go there and find them.
Also, many times someone asks posters to find a specific event and someone always does. For instance, I was hoping to find Chima telling her story, but didn't. I asked for it, and the darling Jus posted it there today!

I don't understand why folks keep saying they're "scared" or whatever to ask a question or jump in. We LOVE BB and that's what we are here for...to discuss it, share observations, answer questions, ask question and review the events of the house.


If some people don't like the name of the Important/Interesting House Happenings thread maybe we should change it to the name of the thread that Julie started. The intent is identical.

Agreed. And I, for one, will pay more attention to posting in detail in IHH.

As far as the Live Feed Posting goes, people contribute to the board in different ways. No one should feel guilty or be made to feel guilty about what and where they choose to post!

Could not agree more with this!

Finally, I would like to say that those with Live Feeds may be more "invested" in it, so the discussion thread is every bit as important to them as any other thread. Little things, like when the camera pans on the word "shallow" or someone doesn't wash their hands, get a quick post and a laugh. Not everyone wants to read about that, I understand, but to those of us that devote our summers to BB, the people that don't wash their hands become a running joke in there. It IS important to have a place where thoses sorts of discussions take place.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
LOL Debra, great minds....

Usleopard
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08-30-2008

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Usleopard a private message Print Post    
1. I just read that laura is in pain. Why is she in pain?

2. Not much is being said about the popular clique. Are they just not saying much? Has Kevin said anything in the whole time they've been there?

Naja
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06-28-2003

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 12:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Laura doesn't know why she is in pain. BB told her the doctor would be there at 10 AM, but he hasn't shown up yet. The others are speculating kidney or bladder infection, and other similar things.

Sorry, not sure about part 2.

Usleopard
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08-30-2008

Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Usleopard a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Naja.