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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 5:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Reader, I think it is wonderful of you to contribute. If the "happening" isn't already summarized a summary would be great. Thanks very much!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

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I was born and raised in southern California. Believe me, it was heard here at least 50 years ago.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 7:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
"Beaner" has been used as long as I've been in California.. this was the first time in awhile I've heard it. Definitely NOT complimentary.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

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I did add the second table in above Important House Happenings (or whatever that name has morphed into.. FWIW.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I have never heard is used in a derogative way and I am from Chicago. We have a very large section of the population that is Latino.

I actually used call my little brother that. His name is Dean. It started as Dean the Bean. Then just "The Bean"..Then it went to "Beaner".

Naja
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06-28-2003

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Can someone group the alliances for me? If someone has described them elsewhere, you can just point me there.

I have showtime and the feeds, but the few hours I have watched, I really can't decipher it very well so far.

Thanks

Wargod
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07-16-2001

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Like Costa, I was born and raised in So Cal and that's always been a very nasty name for someone to call anyone else. Have to say it makes me cringe to read it here as much as seeing derogatory names for other races/groups would.

Gidget
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07-28-2002

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I grew up in Burbank and attended a private convent school. Need I say more?

I mentioned it to my Dad tonight who worked in LA and he knew immediately what it meant.


Pamplemousse
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09-28-2003

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i also was born & raised in so cal & that is indeed a nasty name. makes me cringe too.

Usleopard
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08-30-2008

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Usleopard a private message Print Post    
As it turned out, what was wrong with Laura yesterday?

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 7:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Usleopard...she has some sort of girl-infection. Last I heard, the doctor wanted to take a culture before prescribing medication.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

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I'm in chicago and just last week the boys in our neighborhood were discussing how "Beaner" is a bad word. So if 6 and 10 year old boys know what it means, I think it's pretty universal....

Usleopard
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08-30-2008

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Thanks Bee.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 8:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
It says you are from a suburb, Julieboo. I lived IN the city. It truly isn't a universal word.

eta: you can't bullshit someone who actually knows.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'd never heard the term before and it's the first time I can recall it being discussed at TVCH.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I was fairly surprised to see that people didn't know that term. But then I saw someone say something about "frog", which is a term I sure don't recognize. So, maybe it's one of those regional things. I thought everyone knew about it but I can see now that many have never ever heard it.

I don't watch it, but I seem to remember reading about South Park having an episode that used it and it became a controversial episode. So, I guess I thought if South Park knew it, most everyone would. lol

Naja
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06-28-2003

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 8:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
The term I DO know the Spanish speaking population called where I lived is something I would never type. So I can understand how people who know "Beaner" as an offensive term would make them cringe.

rhymes with "bick"

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 8:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
OK, I have been following this conversation and I guess I will throw in my 2 cents...
Im Spanish, My daughters Dad is Mexican..(born in Mexico).... All my life I have heard the word Beaner... at the dinner table while eating beans...its tossed around....I seriously have never thought twice about it....although nobody has ever used it to me or any of my HUGE hispanic family in a 'bad' way.... its always been a joke within the family or friend group...

Im wondering if this is a word like the N word that is exceptable in certain cituations and "maybe not" in others...
Im baffled by this whole conversation, yet I wasnt here today to hear how it was used.....
"but", knowing me....Id have prob laughed it off and walked away.......
Im just not a fighter or confrontational person.. So I know who I can say it in front of and prob who I shouldnt...
I live in a farm labor town and live in a nieborhood that could be considered 'little mexico'..... cause 3/4 of my niebors are from Mexico....
Now this is just Me...... I possibly could be from a far away planet and know nothing of what I am talking about...

carry on...

Stacey718995
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07-05-2007

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I grew up in Lincoln Park and I never heard it, nor have I ever heard it at any school I taught in big or small. I have no doubts in listening to him that he meant it as a slur, I am sure that this has been discussed but he grew up in Southern California right? So it was a term that he would know for a fact to be inappropriate?

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 8:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Chew...just to give you a bit of a fuller picture of how it was used. Braden said things like, "I'm a white American. Why don't you go back to Mexico, you B**ner."
So, it was a slur in this case.

However, I completely agree that in another place, another time, another circumstance it would have a completely different meaning.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 8:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
he grew up in Southern California right? So it was a term that he would know for a fact to be inappropriate?

Without a doubt, Stacey. He knew.

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 8:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
I was born in Pasadena, lived in Pasadena and then lived half my life in S.California... Heard it all my life.....but like I said....Im Hispanic....

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 8:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Chewie...I gotta admit, I am really surprised by that. It's funny how it can be so different in such a short distance from eachother. Down here, it is really, really strongly considered just like the N word.
Once, my neighbor cried when someone called her that.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 5:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Like almost anything else, I think a word's import depends on who is saying it to whom and with what intent. The intent here was clearly derogatory -

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 6:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The closer you live to the border, the more prevalent the word is going to be (or was). Admittedly though, as mentioned above, it's been years since I've heard the term used. Whether or not you have ever heard the word used that way, or think it is a racial slur against Hispanics, is irrelevant... it IS a racial slur and has been for years. I'm not Hispanic but was accused of being a "beaner" when I was seven years old. I very clearly remember it and I remember crying to my grandmother about it. (I used to spend summers at the beach and was very tan, so my dark skin was likely the reason.) It was very upsetting, and this was in the early 1960's.

And Bee, I would say that in another circumstance it COULD have different meaning.