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Yoamie
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05-29-2005

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yoamie a private message Print Post    
I don't know if anyone else has discussed this already and I apologize if I'm repeating a topic. Is it just me or is anyone else having a problem with what comes out of Jerry & Ollie's mouth? Can you imagine Jerry's children and grandchildren reading the things he calls Keesha, and what Ollie says about everyone? In one breath Jerry wants America to believe he's a sweet old grandpa, and then the most vile things come out of his mouth. And Ollie who's dad said to him "Please son don't do anything to disgrace the family" And Ollie answered "I won't Pop". I would be mortified if either of them were my relative. I feel sorry for their families. We all love to watch the drama in BB House, but I think this is a little extreme for anyone much less a grandfather and a man of faith.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 9:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Oh, it's been discussed, allright. lol

Your observations are spot on.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 9:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Ollie's parents were interviewed on an earlier show and apparently have no problems with how he's behaving. Since he spent all that time (pre-parental interview) playing hide the sausage with April, they must not care what he does. His father said, "he's a grown man."

Jerry's family either knows him as someone with a trashy mouth already, or are hiding under rocks right now. Time will tell who the real Jerry is and what his family/friends think of his actions.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Unless either family watches the feeds, or Youtubes, they can only go by the CBS shows. Both have received a much better edit than they deserve, imo.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
I can't believe that Ollie's Dad would privately have no issues with his behavior and vile words. Since we all know that he is surely going to lose I would love to be a mouse in the corner for the initial post BB meeting between O and his parents.
Seems to me like he should have just stayed home, his input into this game has minimal at best.The only good thing about his presence will be to see his face on Th if he ends up escorting Michelle out the front door.............priceless.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 10:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Yoamie, I would add Michelle to this equasion. They had to bleep her a lot last night, because she can't get through one sentence w/o the "F" word. So awful.

Jerry is getting worse by the day...so bitter. He actually called Keesha the 'c' word last night. He said he hates how the 'game' has made him this way. It can't make him that way if he isn't already inclined to go that way...bitter and disrespectful, with a very foul mouth in regards to the others in the house.

Carochar
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07-25-2005

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 11:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carochar a private message Print Post    
And, oh, so, delusional. I actually had to replay Jerry saying that '"they" made him NOT use the POV' when April was HOH. What the heck? After he followed her around like a puppy repeating he'd do whatever she wanted him to and now "they" made him withhold it?

That's only one of this trio's delusional justifications that's making my blood pressure go sky high.

[breathing in and out and repeating, "Let it go, let it go."]

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 11:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
Rosie
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11-12-2003

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 10:49 am
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Just want to throw in here that when I went to camp, it was always the preacher's kid (PK's) that caused the most trouble.

So, don't expect perfection from a PK.

Shoe_diva1966
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07-21-2005

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 11:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shoe_diva1966 a private message Print Post    
Heres my opinion
I don't believe that Ollie's parents are watching the feeds. Pentecostal people spend a lot of time in Church and with him being a Pastor he is probably too busy to deal with this. Now on the other had Im sure that some of the church members (younger) are probably watching and informing Church elders and he is probably being shielded from the truth.
Jerry on the other hand, he probably is a good person but even good people say and do bad things when their buttons are pushed. Telling the world that he was a marine doesn't always mean that he is honorable (all of the time) just because he has served. There are thousands who serve their country in all branches of the military and their (personal life and sometimes behavior) is less than honorable. Im a 21 yr Army spouse and I see a whole lot of dishonorable behavior on military bases. :-)

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 11:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Shoe, ITA with you 100%. I suspect Ollie's father's congregation may be shielding him from the truth. When I was watching their interview, I really got the impression that the parents did not know the full extent of what was going on between Ollie and April. And they sure didn't give me the impression that they knew Ollie's two minute sexxin' videos were all over YouTube.


Jushvnfn
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07-29-2006

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 12:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jushvnfn a private message Print Post    
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I'm really not sure why children of Preachers are expected to be different from other children? I grew up knowing a few. What I saw was, the tighter the leash, the more the rebellion. As parents, I'm pretty sure most of us have tried to teacher our children morals, love, and compassion toward others.
I raised 3 girls. They went to church, confession, and took communion. They are all very different in their personal lives. I may not always agree with the things they say and do, but there are outside influences that change them too.
I judge Ollie on Ollie. I believe he was taught well. How he has chosen to live his life as adult falls squarely on him.
BB played up the Preacher's son angle knowing full well that he would not be able to live up to it. I'm sure they know very well who all of them were before they got into the house. Makes for good TV.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Minority here. There are things going on in that house that I find way more objectionable than the language or the crapfest vocabulary spewed after one feels they've been wronged (over and over). Plus, I don't see what Ollie's behavior (or anyones) has to do with their age or their faith or their family's occupations. Dan the man of faith (or so he says ad nauseum) has been as souless as others. He just doesn't add the eff word quite so much.

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Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"He said he hates how the 'game' has made him this way. "

I think a lot of them just don't realize that one's true character is brought to light by how one responds to adversity. "The game" can't make you do something nasty if that nastiness isn't already in your character's repertoire.

If Ollie had had the courage to face that adversity without throwing a tantrum, I think a lot of folks, including his father, would have found renewed respect in him. His tantrum was an embarrassment to both Ollie and his parents because it reflected on his upbringing. Ollie's actions made it seem that when his character was tested, he failed the test.

JMO

Steviegirl
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07-07-2005

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Steviegirl a private message Print Post    
I haven't heard as much trash come out of Ollie's mouth has I have out of Jerry's. Last night it was one thing after another from Jerry - all personal.

I don't have a problem if they call eachother names. You know she's a b***h or he's an a**hole.

But just a few of the things said is Dan's a molester, Keesha is a stripper and has cankles (fat ankles), Memphis dances in drag, that Memphis and Keesha are having a showmance, etc.

It's one made up story after another. Nothing but venom comes from that old man's mouth.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 12:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
While I totally agree that we always see true character in the bb house after the first few days, I disagree that their behavior in this environment should cause their family to love them less or respect them less or anything. And, I'd also add that we haven't seen how the rest of them would react to what was done to the other side not once, but twice (and even worse the second). Try to imagine Keesha, Renny, or Memphis, Dan... if someone returned the crap they've been handing out. Hell, Renny goes off at the THOUGHT of being screwed.

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
Hell, Renny goes off at the THOUGHT of being screwed.
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Well, that would make her even quicker than Ollie.

Yoda
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08-11-2005

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yoda a private message Print Post    
Dan has had some pretty nasty crap thrown his way (Judas for example) and he always takes it in stride as game. He went a little over the top with the POV thing but for the most part he doesn't make anything personal.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"It's one made up story after another. Nothing but venom comes from that old man's mouth"

I totally agree. I also think that Jerry is in denial about how his actions and words are being perceived.

The one good thing about BB (aside from entertaining millions of viewers) is that when the HGs leave the house and watch the shows, youtubes of live feeds, and read the transcripts, they are faced with seeing how they put their bad sides on display for the entire world.

If they're smart, they'll USE this unique opportunity to try to make some behavior changes once they see themselves from OUR point of view. (Of course I think a lot of them squander that opportunity for introspection and simply make up excuses and remain in denial.)

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Um, I gotta admit...the word "cankles" is funny

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
But the other "c" word isn't amusing at all.

Steviegirl
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07-07-2005

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 1:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Steviegirl a private message Print Post    
Roxi - has that word been thrown around this season? I remember some of them discussing the word in the backyard, but not sure if it's been used against someone.

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 1:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
After seeing last nights show of Ollie throwing his fit and that's all they showed....he got a good edit for sure.

Sure hope neither one of them wins HOH....

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 1:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I have not seen Dan being souless or talk about his religion with ad nauseum. Am I missing a bunch of stuff? I am being totally serious.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 1:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
I guess it's really a matter of opinion. I find Dan's recent actions to be souless. His discussions about screwing over Ollie and Michelle were worse to me than the c word. Course, I can overlook some nasty language/comments in response to betrayal more than I can the unremorseful antics done for good tv (or so they think). Again, different strokes for different folks. Just my take.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 1:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Oh, forgot to add the discussion about taking Jerry's 4000 dollars just cause they can. And then laugh like hell about it.