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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:04 pm
The guys want Keesha to stay longer than Renny because they think she is easier to beat. They really got scared at how long Renny stayed on the Wall .
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:04 pm
I'm upset with Memphis and Dan because I want Renny to win, not "one of the four". Seamonkey, they aren't telling her to talk to Ollie and Michelle or believe them. They've told her I don't know how many times they want to take her with them. What more does she need to know?
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:04 pm
Dang keep forgetting the post I wanted to respond too; Sea, I don't disagree w/your post at all about the things Dan's moves did. BUT that said, if he wanted to play it totally safe he could have just stuck with getting Jerry out. So even though some of this helps him, he really did help his alliance more than himself IMHO. I think his biggest mistake was that show at the Veto ceremony and his bad reasoning for why he broke his word. I think he could have handled all that better as I think his moves may have cost him the game, based on this years jury members. So bottom line, while he helped himself, he really could have played if far safer and it would have left his alliance far more vulnerable, esp Keesha as they, esp Michelle, were out for her blood first and foremost. I think this coach IS being a team player and it bothers me his team may be rocking the boat.
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Goldee25
Member
06-30-2006
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:04 pm
If Renny and Keesha do turn on the guys it will be Dan's fault for doing the stupid POV that way. He really should not have done that it was uncalled for in my opinion.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:05 pm
yeah Im on the Ollie HOH train too!! WOOT WOOT! Why?
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Rebelmomx2
Member
08-16-2006
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:05 pm
Lurk... I know, but on crazy days... there is no way I get far away from the LFs...
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:05 pm
With Renny talking to Ollie, is it a matter of keeping your enemies closer? I thought he was the person she trusted least at this point.
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Christiii
Member
07-07-2005
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:06 pm
I think it would be interesting to see the who he puts up!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:06 pm
But of course there is the matter of what, if any, repercussions there will be for Ollie's tirade the other day. That other site had supposedly talked to Grodner or someone in production, who said we'd see something on Thursday. So.. it could be he won't be allowed to compete for hoh. In that case.. Memphis or Keesha.. for hoh.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:06 pm
I agree about the team coach theory, Lurk. Seamonkey, you really don't think Keesha will take Renny? They made a deal to F2. That's why it cracks me up that she's so suspicious of the guys.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:08 pm
With Renny talking to Ollie, is it a matter of keeping your enemies closer? I thought he was the person she trusted least at this point. Sadly..she likes him, Tresbien. I'm not sure how much since she saw his actions and she said he was silly to believe such a deal; however, she likes him. It's Jerry she doesn't like and she will fight tooth and nail to get Jerry out before Ollie, which is bad because if they have an endurance come, Ollie might win.
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:09 pm
I would love to see a tie on Thursday night. Put Dan on the spot and make him break the tie.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:09 pm
I think it would be interesting to see the who he puts up! It will be Dan and Keesha..for April.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:09 pm
I'm upset with Memphis and Dan because I want Renny to win, not "one of the four". Um Sea, Renny IS one of the four! (unless she does something IMHO foolish)
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Bzbee
Member
04-26-2004
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:10 pm
My take. What isn't being mentioned by Dan or Ollie is that Ollie wanted Keesha up and that Dan had her as his protected person. Keesha knows this. Memphis and Renny do not. Ollie was careful to not say her name just now also. Dan has also stated that because of his POV stunt he has pushed Ollie and Renny together. Renny is playing her own game, though, and that's good. She does have a better chance with Ollie, if he gets that far and she doesn't burn bridges because she expresses her doubts outloud. On the other hand Keesha does better with the four, especially if she gets some critical POV and HOH wins.
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Lancecrossfire
Animoderator
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:11 pm
Rye bread! Good stuff if it's good quality. Bold flavor that needs bold ingredients to go with it. Trust is the finest line to walk IMHO. It's a game only 1 person can win, yet the years have shown you have to have an alliance to make it to the end. That seem like a contradiction--and it is. Every BB some alliance says we get to the end, then it's everyone for themselves. But then they take it personally. Survivor has shown your best odds are sticking with your alliance and at the end may the best person win. If you switch you are screwed by the jury. Ollie is really hurting himself. Even Jase was smart enough to keep interacting with the group. He came out smelling a whole lot better than if he'd just slept once he knew he was gone.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:11 pm
Missy, if they forced a tie, it would mean Renny kept Michelle and voted Jerry out..I don't see Keesha doing that. Dan will most likely boot Michelle, but it will fracture the group. Five minutes later, they are going to be playing another HOH. They won't know this before the voting. These 4 are soo strong and likable if they just stay together.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:12 pm
Well said, Bzbee!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:12 pm
Cricket, what she needs to know is whatever she wants to ask.. she's smart enough to know that Memphis and Dan aren't doing all this for her, but for them and that they have been perfectly happy to let her and Keesha be out front with hoh comps and finally Dan wins one and pisses them all off. Memphis still hasn't won one and hopes to continue in that vein. They want Keesha to take the hoh this week so Memphis will be able to get the even more important hoh. Not that I blame Memphis/Dan, I just hate the way they brand Renny or Keesha as loose cannon or somehow wrong to dare to talk to someone. It was ok for Memphis to not just talk, but talk final two alliance with Michelle, after all. Just a double standard. Hope they knokw that Michelle and Ollie both have their feet in the hot tub and are <gasp> talking.
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Dfng
Member
08-04-2005
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:13 pm
Renny agreed in the HOH earlier this week that she was down with putting Jerry and Ollie up with Ollie going. If she wins HOH and doesn't follow through I think she will loose the other 3 guys. It would make it an Ollie/Renny against the rest of the house. The only way she could have the numbers is to put up Dan and Memphis. If she does that, she will be cutting Keesha off at the knees. I could see her putting up Jerry with either Memphis or Dan but again, she will have all of them after her the next week. She should sit back, let someone else get HOH and go for it the following week.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:13 pm
Goldee, I have to agree, that Dan did do harm to the group by what he did with the POV. I was horrified when he asked Renny to say a name..horrified. I knew she'd never get over it. In that way, he's very immature. I think he was surprised at how no one liked it..no one.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:14 pm
Bzbee!! Good to see you! Yes.. Renny senses something and that something is that Keesha was the protected one. Even Ollie won't tell her, wisely, that his main target was Keesha.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:14 pm
Oh I think they'll stay together all right...through the first eviction on Thursday. Then with the second HOH and immediate nominations, all bets are going to be off depending on who gets HOH. Just wait, if it's Ollie or Jerry, the boys will be pooping
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:14 pm
Bz...I'm almost positive that Memphis knows this. The whole point of Dan's actions of putting up Memphis and protecting Keesha not Memphis was to throw up the secret Final 2 alliance of Dan and Memphis. Mem wasn't happy about it and thought it was a huge risk, one he told Dan he wouldn't take if roles were reversed. But Dan was clear on what his motives were with Memphis, and I do believe they have a solid F2 alliance. I have a music box collection too, but nothing like Jerry's thank goodness lol
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Lancecrossfire
Animoderator
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:15 pm
Lurk, did you get your laundry done?? where shorts and a t-shirt. you have the legs for the shorts.
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