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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:39 am
Emm I'm not sure Jerry understands the rules of BB. But since Julie doesn't seem to fully get what it is to backdoor someone, how can we expect him to lol. I just started a thread w/a question bout Jerry that I got really curious about after seeing how we are almost in 100% agreement here. I really wonder if Jerry has any fans among those who have the feeds and have heard him. I don't remember the last time I saw a pro Jerry post, and when I last did it was because they were against someone else, not so much that they were for him. Got me really curious. Pity the home viewer has never really "seen" Jerry. I think it's SOOO unfair they haven't...they might give him the money (if there is money) and he's the last one IMHO how deserves it.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:41 am
I don't think it was unfair for Julie to tell Michelle that Dan wasn't a plant...for her to let Michelle continue to think that would be grossly unfair to Dan. Besides, I think it gave Michelle the opportunity to look a little less like an idiot on national television. She took is well...LOL!
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:42 am
Chippy I think it's fair that Julie did that. One shouldd be judged for their gameplay, not for rumors of working for CBS when it's it lie. I think it's fair to clarify it. Then if folks still hate Dan that is fair, but to have a game ruined on a lie is bogus IMHO. Plus I think they legally needed to clear it up since there are tons of threads all over about it. I found a 12 page and growing one on the Real/BB forum (that I didn't know existed lol). I think CBS needed to clear the air of potential impropriety. This was NOT just a lie about a HG, it involved those that run the game. That makes it different IMHO.
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Bubba
Member
07-29-2005
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:43 am
And I call BS on Julie telling Michelle that Dan isn't a plant as she heads to the jury house. His gameplay caused that perception (AND, he was AP for a week). good point Chippy!! makes me wonder.........}
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:45 am
Roxip, maybe it's just my personal feelings but I thought it made her look MORE like an idiot...a paranoid, deluded idiot for thinking it. Only hear being stunned, and likely not totally believing Julie, kept her reply polite. Am I evil for loving that I felt it made her look foolish?!!! I am soooo over Michelle, Jerry and Ollie's lies and deciptful gameplay. Strategic lies are one thing. Making up BS as they were to destroy games AND hopefully get folks fired as they desiered to me is a new BB low and not part of the game I either want to see or think should be allowed.
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Bubba
Member
07-29-2005
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:45 am
The lie about the banner plane was not cleared up.
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Jushvnfn
Member
07-29-2006
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:46 am
No such luck Lurk. 3 weeks left 3 evictions by my calculations. IMO Jerry will figure out that he can win against Dan (screw over Michelle and Ollie and will have poisoned the jury) and Memphis (million dollar car...and thought to have been thinking he had it all won since the beginning). At least that's how I hope he sees it. Then I hope they vote for Dan to win it all! I think a lot us wanted to like Jerry. Unfortunately, he couldn't save himself from being who he really is...IMO Sorry Lurkie, I have agree with Chippie. Julie should have kept quiet about Dan. If she corrected all of them when they left on their misconceptions it would be another story. Again...IMO
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Emm119
Member
07-12-2005
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:49 am
Actually I think it was good of Julie to tell Michelle that Dan wasn't a "plant." If you think about it, basically only the people that watch it on the feeds knew about her "idea" about Dan and why she thought it. She may have gone on about our her theories on him. We were all LOAO at her. When she said it LIVE on TV can you imagine what everyone must have thought.
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Timmycat
Member
08-15-2008
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:50 am
They should all be worried about Renny at this point. I think she wins in any F2 scenario. I think she needs to go this round. I'm on the same page as Dan, I guess.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:50 am
Dang it I hate when I make a typo that changes the meaning of my post..any mods around? I mean to say in my 2nd to last post that; "This was NOT just a lie about a HG, it involved those that run the game" Fixed <24> That not was important lolol...sorry guys...haven't had coffee yet...something I should correct soon!
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Emm119
Member
07-12-2005
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:50 am
Bubba I think by the end, she believed the lie she told about the banner, and it was more of a "strategic move" this plant thing involved the network...I think that was the difference.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:54 am
GASP Jus, you are ruining my day. I can't just type ITA and take it easy if you disagree w/me now lolol. I'll tell you the difference in how I see it. Someone posted that Julie didn't call out the lie about the banner plane. While that lie annoyed me, I could see them allowing it since it was strategy. BUT to call in the integrity of those running this game and saying one player is on the inside is a different story. I still say they needed to clear it up to stop any rumors or belief of impropriety. I don't think it was as much to help Dan as to legally cover their butts. And the HG need to know that they all really are playing on equal footing..and do with that what they want. I should go make coffee I'm not sure i'm being as clear as I can be. But I'm being as clear as I can be w/out coffee lolol
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:55 am
Libra thought Dan was America's Player. How come they didn't clear that up for her. Why wasn't anyone told the banner was a lie? Whatever the hg come away from the house with, it is their perception based on their experience. The game is not over and the purpose of sequester is that noone interferes with the game or the perceptions. Julie did exactly that last night and I hope Michelle isn't dumb enough to announce it to the jury house. Dan's game was only affected by Dan's behavior. His need for fireworks and hamming it up for the America that must just love him to pieces for making him their AP choice is what contributed to their perceptions. Again... BS, Julie.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:56 am
lol Emm, wish I saw your post before I struggled over mine. Same point you said it in a much more concise way! That's what I was shooting for...my point exactly!
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Emm119
Member
07-12-2005
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:59 am
Think of it this way, IF Dan was a "plant" by the network, there is no way he would be entitled to the prize money at the end. No way he would be in the house at the end. They would have to tell the HG's that he was part of the "crew" and be removed before the F2. She really HAD to tell Michelle that Dan was not a plant.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 7:01 am
lol well can see you have your opinion and that's totally your right Chippy...just some of us disagree lol. Do you see the difference though with the other examples you gave? Dan WAS AP, though not when Libra thought it. But that isn't saying that BB/CBS is manipulating the game. It's a wild HG theory. The banner didn't exist, but that's a HG telling a lie (that I too think she came to believe). Again not involving the PROPRIETY and legal involvement of those running the game, the network, potential laws governing the game etc. HG usually can say most lies and it stands. But in this case they not only tried to make Dan be a party to it, but that CBS and BB were too. They were cleaning the CBS/BB hands legally not Dan's IMHO. And I could see why they needed to do that. It was a lie that could damage the network along w/Dan so they needed to stop it publicly.
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Bubba
Member
07-29-2005
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 7:01 am
But Emma BB did plant Eric on the 8th season, so a plant is not something that BB or the network is above. Also the twins, the brother and sister that didn't know about each other..... BB messes with the game.....
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 7:02 am
There's not a hg that exits without misconceptions. IMO, it is BB itself that fans the flames of many of them. It's become a well known fact that every idea they come up with is doomed to nauseating repetition. Anyone who watches BB and then becomes a hg expects past twists to rear their sometimes not so pretty heads. Dan was marked this years AP before he even was one, even for only a week however, his behavior afterwards sealed the deal for some and I can't say as I blame them. So, is Julie counting on Michelle to share that with the rest of the jury? Nah. To me, it looked like Julie doesn't much care for Michelle and likes Dan a bunch. Julie as in BB. Wonder if they'd like to clear up that "misconception". LOL
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 7:04 am
I'm sure jerry does have fans...maggie did...evel dick did...jun did... however, I'm not one of them I was so bummed last night - I was eagerly awaiting the feeds to come back, anxious to watch the 4, only to read here that jerry won hoh I shut everything down, went to bed, and swore never to watch BB again!! LOL I know one of the 4 would have to go next week, but I wanted to watch them at final 4 for the fun factor! I just hope jerry goes next - in fact, I don't think I can even watch until he does go. WHY BB, WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??!!

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Bubba
Member
07-29-2005
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 7:06 am
if Julie would have said that Dan was AP for only one week, then it wouldn't have been such BS
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 7:06 am
ok one last post then taking a break...i hope lol. Bubba, different kinds of "plants" IMHO. While they did put those hidden players in, they didn't help them play or tell them how to play. According to the rocket science detectives Michelle, Ollie and Jerry, Dan was a CBS/BB plant put in to mess up the game, cause drama, make it interesting, and do whatever the producers wanted to keep stirring up the house. Totally different level of involvement. It's one thing to have a twist that is playing the game with no additional help, (not that I ever loved those twists), but this is saying that someone from show production was IN the house messing w/all their games. Least that was the best definition of plant I heard them give. I always kept thinking...palm? Ficus???? lol
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Jushvnfn
Member
07-29-2006
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 7:07 am
Aww Lurk I would never intentionally try to ruin your day! My interpretation of what she meant by plant, is Americas player. Although for a short time, he was. By the way, has anyone else noticed that Julie looks like the walking dead lately? Do you think she read the glitter thread here? 
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 7:08 am
TVwatcher I haven't checked lately, but I posted a thread to try to find that out. I'm sincerely curious if Jerry does have any fans. Really curious. Wonder if he does? In BB history I don't recall any HG, no matter how horrid, not keeping a few fans, but I haven't seen much support for jerry in weeks (other than hoping he goes after folks people don't like). So I am sooo curious ya know? Might be a BB first!
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Bubba
Member
07-29-2005
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 7:09 am
whatever Lurk, I just think anyone going to the jury house shouldn't be given information.
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Emm119
Member
07-12-2005
| Friday, August 29, 2008 - 7:10 am
Bubba, I didn't think of that. What I thought of was that BB took Michelle thinking that Dan was part of the "crew" thrown in to mess with the HG's heads. Not like in year's past. I guess because of Michelle thinking that she shouldn't have been booted, that the only way for her to be evicted was that if BB helped....you know...and as Dan as a Plant, it wasn't because he was a HG, it was because he was part of the "SHOW"...(I think I need Lurk's coffee)
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