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Jushvnfn
Member
07-29-2006
| Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 10:49 am
You can always count on
Thank you!
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 10:52 am
You're welcome, Jus!
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Clemmis
Member
07-10-2005
| Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 11:25 am
I saw this happen on the feeds yesterday morning and I didn't think it was a big deal at all. It happened right after they all were awakened by the music. April was in her bed under the covers. She was on her side facing the camera (us) and at least two other people were in the bedroom at the time and they were standing between us and April so we could always see April's facial expression. She was having fun. Jerry was on the bed with April. He was on top of her comforter and he was on his side "spooning" her but with his hat on, clothes on and propping himself up with one elbow. They were all laughing about Jerry "spooning" her and he was laughing, too. April was laughing the hardest and even said something like, "Help, Jerry's spooning me!" Then Jerry said, playing along, "Yeah, I guess I'm spooning you. How 'bout that?" They all laughed again. Then Jerry, still joking, made a comment about April being "warm" while he is always cold. That turned a little bit creepy as the vibe in the room cooled a bit -- but it wasn't any creepier than his "I'm always standing at attention in the morning because I'm a solider" comment -- the others laughed and the feed changed. So, yes, Jerry was spooning April -- but she was under her covers and he was on top of her bedding and it was all done in front of other people.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 11:35 am
Well if that's the explanation this is no big deal............
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 11:51 am
Still won't believe it til there's a youtube of it. Gosh, ENOUGH people tape the stupidest BB stuff, there isn't a single YouTube out there from someone who records it?
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Aurora23
Member
03-22-2008
| Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 1:05 pm
why is someone who is older considered repulsive? is just the fact that one is older repulsive? i don't get it. i love older folks and have always appreciated older men and their attention. to me being unclean is repulsive whether one is young or old.
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Charlottesmom
Member
01-03-2008
| Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 1:53 pm
Kmjm, excellent post.
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Askme_who_ur
Member
08-19-2006
| Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 10:08 pm
Just the fact some one is older isn't repulsive in itself. Cuz I would love to be spooned by someone like Sean Connery , or Harrison Ford among others. It is when an old guy acts creepy that is what makes him repulsive. and yes, young guys can be that too.
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 8:05 am
Thanks, Charlottesmom! My comments need to be taken within the context of the game. Jerry would go a lot further playing the wise old man than trying to flirt- however innocently- with the young women. He should be grandfatherly with them, so they will bond with him and trust him. His concern with physical fitness is a far better strategy for keeping up with the kids than is the sexual innuendo, imo.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 1:11 pm
Well, it's BB. I agree with Sea, any tiny little thing can be held against you and it almost always is especially early on in the game. I think most or all of them know it. Of course April is going to use this to her advantage. (Not every BB player would, but a lot of them would, it's a lot of money to be won) Also, you have the drama taking on a life of it's own because they are cooped up in that house with nothing else to distract them. Every little thing has the potential to become a mountain.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 1:28 pm
Clemmis explained it the exact way I see it in my head. #1 Jerry innocently hopped on to hug her. IMO, he should have waited till she's up before he dishes out his daily GM hugs> But then again, so often I did that with my DDs in the morning to lovingly wake them up.) #2 April joked about it with others at the time. #3 But while talking to Ollie (to perhaps rile him up to be more loving towards herself?), it got to be what we heard that Jerry was spooning her yada yada yada #4 then later when the ladies did their usual dissing on Jerry's antics, April just decided to use the ammunition Jerry handed her innocently that morning. But Sea & Kmjm are so right that this would not help him advance in the game. Some one else commented that he just shouldn't even bother to examine April's boobs the first night. But honestly, how many of us could figure things out that fast on the first night?? Let's hope that, the production/Editing team has those moments on tape and would be willing to clear it up for Jerry. Although they didn't really take a stand in last night's show about that Jerry-Libra and Renny-Libra outburst. Well, we know they love and pray for controversies, what am I talking about?? 
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Sangi
Member
07-22-2008
| Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 3:06 pm
IMHO I think this is an unfair judgement on Jerry. If anyone else did it, it wouldn't have mattered. I highly doubt that Jerry would want to come across on the internet and these message boards as a dirty old man. I also doubt he would put himself out there and compromise his family like that. Innocent act gone bad is what I say. Much ado about nothing. He's trying to build a bridge to this huge generation gap and fit in. Making mistakes? Probably so. This game brings out the worse in people. But to judge him as a dirty old man and process this as an ongoing situation is wrong. This gossip is harmful and hurtful.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 3:15 pm
The same thing when Jerry does is seen as "dirty" would have been called "fresh" when others do it. By "Others" I mean those younger guys in the house. By "fresh" I mean in the sentence of "You're being fresh with me".
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Sangi
Member
07-22-2008
| Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 3:25 pm
True Chy. As for Jerry and April's boobs, why isn't it being addressed that she taunted and insisted he feel them? It was his first night, the others were doing it, maybe the pressure of the moment to fit in took over. Why aren't there other discussions about the other guys/gals feeling her boobs? Most importantly, why on a first impression to strangers would you ask them to feel your boobs, shake them in their faces and then cry foul? None of this makes sense. And as far as April being "shocked" or her dignity being compromised...give me a break. First night she asked everyone to feel her boobs and a week later she's intimate with a guy she only knew one week. Jerry "spooned" her, big deal if he did. I'm sure he didn't think of it as long as we are. It was not intended to be sexual and that I have no doubt about. April wants attention.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 4:08 pm
Sangi, the problem is, none of them are telling Jerry of these thoughts. I'm not sure if it's because these HGs are not confrontational, or if they are saving ammunition's. But you're so right that he didn't think of it as long as we are. 
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 4:10 am
Jerry acknowledging that he heard April and Ollie having sex was as inappropriate as it was for them to have sex with someone else in the room. The comment he made raised the creepiness level . I know he is just trying to fit in but he is 75 years old and he should know that you can hang with people and still not drop to their level. Jerry has also joined in the trash talk more than I expected. I’m sure it’s real easy to do that in there but constantly saying “That Memphis just wants to get in That Angie’s pants”. Where is that even coming from?
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 7:46 am
"Jerry acknowledging that he heard April and Ollie having sex was as inappropriate as it was for them to have sex with someone else in the room." So I am guessing that Jerry should have laid there silent night after night? Is that the only way he could have stayed "appropriate" in that situation? <100>
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 8:06 am
I really don't know what I would have done if I was forced to listen to A&O doing the do. So I can't give Jerry any advice on that. But they are in the BB House, sharing living areas with other HGs and having numerous camera on them and having to wear mics during every waking moment are what they signed up for. One night in the middle of their foreplay, BB came over and told A&O not to obstruct the mics.! If it was me, all lovei-dovieness would have gone out to the windows. But those two rabbits would able to keep it going just fine. .... I don't think any one else could do anything to A & O that'll be more disrespectful, more inappropriate than what they're doing to themselves right there and then.
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Archiecat
Member
08-16-2006
| Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 8:24 am
I have never understood the age discrimination in BB house even from as early as "Chicken George" and every one since. I am 72, my DH is 78! How do we avoid being "creepy?" My fondest and warmest generous wish is that each of the "youngsters" in the BB house and those reading this will be old enough to be "creepy" someday. Consider the alternative.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 8:28 am
I don't know what comment he made, but he had every right to say something like excuse me, there is someone else in the room. it's rude and disrespectful for them to do that with him in there and he shouldn't have to deal with that.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 8:46 am
I agree that Jerry has every right to say something when people in the same room with him are having sex! But the comment that Caprica posted that Jerry said: "That Memphis just wants to get in that Angie's Pants" THAT is inappropriate. Memphis has a girlfriend, and I don't think he would do anything to risk that relationship, but Jerry hates Memphis and this was said maliciously. I hope that if Memphis' girlfriend heard this on the feeds that she would be able to just brush it off. I have not seen Memphis come-on to Angie, or any of the women, but Jerry sure does a lot of hugging!
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 8:48 am
Jerry is assigned responsibilities and rules. The "youngsters' think they have rights. Without the elders in my life I shudder to think of the stories I would have missed. I try not to get into anything but the game and Jerry's not an angel but they could give him a little leeway.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 9:47 am
What I find creepy is that a young couple would find it appropriate to have sex with anyone, not just an elderly man in the room. Jerry had every right to make a comment to them or he would have had to listen to the rabbits doing it every night. That is his bedroom and his bed they were the ones who disrespected him. Why do some think that just because the man is in his 70s that he's creepy? Why is it inappropriate for Jerry to make the same comment or close to as the youngsters? Would everyone be so judgemental if Renny said it? No they wouldn't because there is a misconception about older men all being perverts.
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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 9:54 am
Didn't you know that once you reach 70 you are supposed to be sexless? God forbid if I say anything off color...my kids fall thru the floor.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 9:55 am
That's your mistake Supergranny..I've talked off color since they were born so when I reach 70 they will just expect it...lol
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