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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 12:02 pm
I would like to point out that V told J to "stay there" only after Kendra screamed at him to help her. V even says so in the video clip. Listen closely. V was responding to Kendra's plea, not because J rushed over to see if she was ok. I honestly believe it never occured to him to stop what he was doing to go check on the love of his life.
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 1:30 pm
I just love seeing Jonathan and Victoria.......in Black and White on the Clubhouse banner! Yippee!
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 1:42 pm
I'm glad some of you reminded us of some of the uglier moments of J/V with their interactions with the locals. I admit I was getting a little ill having to give them some credit. I think they were aggressive with the "public service" side of the locals, expecting/demanding more "service" out of them and Jonathan getting kicked out of the cab was one of the highlights of the season for me!). But with the local general public, they were a lot better at connecting with them and being respectful of them than most of the other teams on any of the episodes of TAR.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 1:45 pm
That's part of why I didn't feel for Kendra at the end of the last episode -- she seemed to only come around and be "touched" by the children after they carried her bags. Sure, she wanted to bring them home -- they went out of their way to DO SOMETHING for her. Blech.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 1:57 pm
well even the whole idea of wanting to bring them home, like little pets - certainly no more than objects.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 2:08 pm
Yeah, Maris, that too! 
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 2:08 pm
Okay, okay, Kendra is a young, self-absorbed, probably not too bright girl...but she really doesn't bother me that much. She's not my favorite person in the race (I'm still torn between Kris/Jon and Lori/Bolo) but her kind of behavior doesn't get on my nerves that much...and lest we forget we are probably seeing the "WORST OF THE WORST" of her episodes...they had to have somebody besides J/V for us to hate!
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 3:07 pm
I'm not fond of Kendra for the reasons already mentioned. But I do have to say I really felt for her when she had her asthma attack. I was pretty at Freddy for just marching on and yelling over his shoulder "come on" and stuff. Didn't he yell things like "suck it up" and "just breathe," or has two days removed from the episode marred my memory? I know all about what its like to be gasping for air and have someone just march on ahead. Would it have killed him to stop for a few minutes and given her a few minutes to relax and get some air? No wonder she was touched by the locals who actually cared about her asthma attack. I can remember trying to keep up with my Mom when she worked in Denver and my college was in Denver. I'd meet her at her work, and then we'd walk over to the bus station. She has very long gazelle legs (I think she's something like 5'7"). I, OTH and 5'3 with very short legs, asthma, and yes, overweight. Mom would just take off and leave me in her dust. I'd tell her to wait up, and she'd just yell over her shoulder for me to "move your short little legs a little faster and you can keep up." I'd be gasping for air, getting chest pains, and she'd just get disgusted with me that I couldn't keep up. To this day I'm convinced what she was thinking to herself was, "if you weren't so fat, you'd be able to keep up, so just move those fat little legs faster and keep up with me." Even though I was already taking two strides to her one. Well, now I'm even fatter than back then, and her gazelle legs no longer hold her up very well, and she has to have oxygen at night (doc recommended 24 hours, but she refuses to give up her cigarettes during the day, so the oxygen has to be turned off so we don't blow up the house). When she's not in her wheelchair and I'm pushing her, I'm walking slowly along beside her as she hangs on to me. Have to admit once in a while I get the evil urge to rush on ahead and yell at her to c'mon (not really, but it does cross my mind that I could be evil if I wanted to). 
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 3:29 pm
But with the local general public, they were a lot better at connecting with them and being respectful of them than most of the other teams on any of the episodes of TAR. Exactly! While Jonathon really was rude to many of the service people, I can't help but think him yelling at a cab driver was nothing compared to when Kendra commented about how Africans "can't stop breeding" with her cab driver sitting right there.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 3:46 pm
One of the scariest memories from my childhood was when my brother had an asthma attack. The attack got really bad and my mom set him on the steps and told him to wait there was she rushed around and got her shoes and purse to take him to the ER. I just remember watching him sitting there, sorta blue, barely breathing in and out. So scary, I was probably only 3 or 4 years old. I think I wondered if he was gonna die. (My brother was fine and eventually grew out of his asthma.) Since then, I always get really worried when someone has trouble breathing. Probably more worried than they are. As an adult, I know a friend of a friend who died of asthma. She had the attack in her own home and even managed to call 911 for herself, but was unable to alert her family in other parts of the house. She died leaving at least one child (my friend's student). Just so scary. So, like or dislike Kendra, her breathing scared me. It did seem to clear up quickly and made me wonder if her BF might not have been correct about it being a panic attack as opposed to ahthma? Greatly exaggerating possible injuries seems to be the big trend in TAR promos this year. Let's see -Hayden's (I think it was her) passing out/head/neck injury from bungee rocket turned into a minimal dizzy spell lasting seconds. -Freddy's injury from the gate. (Turned out Hera was probably hurt worse, but didn't do a drama queen act for the cameras like Fred.) -Victoria's cut seemed like she'd cut off her hand or something. -Adam underwater trek in the breathing suit. -Kendra's "asthma" attack lasts about less than 30 seconds.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 5:50 pm
It seems strange that a child would hurry over to Kendra and grab her bag for her when she had trouble breathing while her boy friend kept on walking. Panic attack or asthsma, Freddy's arrogance was uncalled for. They had to finish together at the pit stop so why didn't he want to help her. I was as happy to see Jonathan/Victoria go as I was to see Roddy go on Big Brother. I can still hear Victoria yelling at the poor boat man "There are no buoys here. Where are they?"
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 10:38 pm
If memory serves me correctly, Jonathan was "nice to the locals" because they could help him. He was always looking for someone to drag along as a guide. Very quid pro quo (and as disgusting to me as Kendra).
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 10:42 pm
Who, I think Freddy was telling her HOW to breathe, not just to breathe. Although, yes, he didn't go running back to her side. And I'm sorry, but I truly dislike Kendra. Jonathan was excruciatingly annoying and obnoxious, but Kendra is excruciatingly condescending. The way she was talking about third world countries, and how the Ethiopians seemed to enjoy their poverty? (And who's to say they are living in poverty?) And then to say she wants to take the children home, like pets or souvenirs? Sorry... She may be young. But that is absolutely no excuse for intolerant behaviour.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 11:14 pm
Jonathon was occasionally nice to the locals when he seemed to remember that he was ON CAMERA.
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Ar_jammer
Member
11-17-2004
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 4:11 am
Episode 9 Links; Corsica, France to Lalibela, Ethiopia I missed the first half hour, so I don’t really know what the ferry looked like. Booking a ferry to Nice, here is a ferry page from Corsica to many places http://www.aferry.to/ferry-to-france-ferries.htm another… http://uk.geocities.com/my_ferries/corsica.html This could be the ferry company.. then again… http://corsicami.free.fr/compagnies%20maritimes/CORSICA%20FERRIES.htm Nice France http://www.firstforfrance.com/L4_Town.asp?t=579 http://www.sitesatlas.com/Europe/France/Nice.htm Ethiopia Let’s start with the cia factbook http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/et.html A very interesting site with news and other information about Ethiopia http://www.cyberethiopia.com/ The EthiopiaDaily http://www.ethiopiadaily.com/ Pictures of Ethiopia http://www.thymos.com/mon2/ethiopia/ethiopia.html http://community.pmc.edu/internationalstudentclub/countryprofiles/Ethiopia%20Pictures.htm Addis Ababa, general links http://www.macalester.edu/courses/geog61/kshively/ http://www.tourethio.com/capital/ Lalibela Lalibela is a Saint. http://www.gospelcom.net/dacb/stories/ethiopia/lalibela.html Very nice pictures including the church http://www.bcs.rochester.edu/people/alex/ethiopia.htm This site contains historic information about Ethiopia and Lalibela http://home.wanadoo.nl/spaansen/lalibela.htm There are 12 rock churches in Ethiopia. This site contains pictures from 3. Third one appears to be the one from the race. There are other great pictures here too. http://www.galenfrysinger.com/rock_church_ethiopia_2.htm This link on the same site has many pictures of donkeys and huts. http://www.galenfrysinger.com/tissisat_falls.htm more pictures http://www.markpelletierphotography.com/Lalibela/ To get an idea of how remote Lalibela is… http://www.fallingrain.com/world/ET/14/Lalibela.html Funny, trying to find Lewz village, google has already indexed the cbs site. And that’s about all the references to it. For those of you interested in Ethiopian Tours… http://www.jenmansafaris.com/tours/itinerary-1-siteId-2-2/tourId-2-63 That’s it. Beautiful country. And yes, I am doing the happy dance.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 7:57 am
Was it only me or did it appear that Jonathan almost kidnapped that poor guy in the last episode? It didn't seem like the guy understood English - and didn't Jonathan have him carrying his backpack later?
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Gen
Member
08-22-2003
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 9:59 am
Roxip, I think that the fellow that Jonathan "kidnapped" also helped by guiding the donkey to the the farmer. I never saw either J or V leading the donkey until they had to go back for the second one.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 10:00 am
Ummm... Jonathan is paying him. TAR racers often pay locals to carry their stuff. No rules against it.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 2:39 pm
Jonathan may have been cordial to some of the locals at times, but he screamed at his wife saying mean derogatory things in front of those same locals at times too. I hope Dr. Phil lets them have it.
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Needmylifeback
Member
08-14-2000
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 2:43 pm
Yep... Jonathan paid someone to carry HIS backpack...didn't think about Veronica.... I've got to say ... I LOVE letting the previous page load all the way now...just so I can see their black and white photo!
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