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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 3:58 pm
Yes, it was Lori who grabbed Phil's jacket, not Jonathan.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 6:28 pm
Yes, Phil has recoiled/made funny faces each episode as a woman hurls herself his way, twice so far this season.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 7:05 pm
The only time he seemed to really like gettting hugged was by Charla and Mirna
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 8:42 pm
Well, gosh darn, yet another reason to regret that I can't race! I'm sure Phil would love to hug me!!
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 9:51 pm
I love the clubhouse, but when I read these boards about reality TV shows, folks here are convinced that about 50% of the men on these shows are wife abusers (or GF, or whatever). I'm just somehow incredulous that reality TV casts this many men who regularily hit women. Why does everyone always jump to the conclusion that every man who is verbally abusive must therefor also be physically abusive? Don't get me wrong, I don't think verbal abuse is ok. I just don't think it is fair to these people to always make the leap of logic. Yes, Jonathan is annoying. He was cast for the simple reason that people won't like him and folks will tune into the show just so they can whine and complain about how annoying he is. These reality TV shows have perfected this casting...
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 11:26 pm
Tnt, Phil would love to hug ya!!!!! Gina, I hear what your saying but this Jonathan takes the cake, he really pushed that girl hard AND hit her with the trunk.....he is a <> man, worse than any other I have seen. <47>
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Blender
Member
11-16-2004
| Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 11:30 pm
Gina: I can't speak for everyone, but from my own life experiences, more often than not, verbal abusers physically abuse as well. To be frank, watching Johnathon pushes buttons for me because he reminds me of my step father (who was verbally and physically abusive). When I see a "Type A" personality on a reality show, I can't help but feel very uncomfortable and compare what I am seeing on TV with things I have witnessed in my life.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 11:41 pm
Jonathan prolly drives a really big truck, little pee pee car, is what I refer to them as and you can usually find aa short skranny man driving it!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 7:19 am
While is the word "bully" modded? It is an accurate description, not too different from "bossy" (which did not get modded?) I don't get it... Words that did NOT get modded here are : "he is a vile man" and "he acts like such a <MG>." Can I say "I think she is a bully." ???
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Forum_moderator
Moderator
01-01-2004
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 7:53 am
Julie questions re moderation should be addressed to moderator@tvclubhouse.com but since it is Thanksgiving, I will give you a short answer I apologize but we are very understaffed for the holidays so, unfortunately, some posts end up being missed. That is likely why some have not been modded. "He is a vile man" should absolutely be modded. "he acts like such a bully" would never be moderated. You are not allowed to call people names (eg he is a bully) BUT you are allowed to comment on THE BEHAVIOR of people..therefore "he acts like a bully" would be quite acceptable HAPPY THANKSGIVING everyone   
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 8:07 am
Thank you for that excellent explanation. A subtle but very important distinction. Happy Thanksgiving!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 8:21 am
Thank you for that explanation forum moderator!!! 
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 8:51 am
Sorry Mod, I was drinking last nite
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 10:10 am
Gina, I also hear you and I think a good deal of the anger expressed is that many of us do NOT agree that casting of people like Jonathan is what we want to see as the norm for this show. I far more enjoy people like Team Cha Cha Cha or last year's winners, Chip and Kim. I also enjoy seeing back and forth inter and intra team, but do not enjoy seeing someone make his partner flinch.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 11:00 am
I hate to admit, I visited their site and wandered around. SO...it basically looks like he bought his way onto the show. Some guy that hangs out at the playboy mansion, married a bunny, and looks like he enjoys throwing Hef's name around as some sort of self-validation. "Look who I know. Hef was at our party!" Ummm....yeah. I think he knew people in the industry, and someone somewhere pulled some strings to get them on the show. As for the car he drives - it's not a truck Pamy. That is a Midwest/rural small-wanker-syndrome type of vehicle. In LA, you either buy a Hummer, or some little Lotus or Porsche, that shows your bank account is inversely proportional to the size of your unit. All I can say is, if that after seeing himself on the show, he doesn't just write "bad editing" in his blog, and goes to therapy instead. JMHO
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 12:13 pm
But if they want to be seen as "green" then they buy and drive a Toyota Prius or other hybrid. I really hate driving near/behind a hummer.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 1:21 pm
LOL Eeyore.small wanker syndrom!!!!! best laugh I had all week!!!!!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 2:49 pm
Oh, I forgot to mention!! (I know I'm going to sound like a female pig but.....) Did anyone notice all the great knocker shots this episode. The blonder of the two sisters has a good pair of lungs. Gives Playboy Bunny Victoria a run for her money!! Maybe it's just all the tank tops....I can't help but notice. 
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Karen
Member
09-07-2004
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 3:06 pm
I noticed too Eeyore. The quesiton is, Are they worth looking at? Specifically: "It's so cold, my implants are FREEZING!"
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 4:58 pm
I'm pretty sure the implant comment was from Lori who is the only one of the women I can see admitting to them!!
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 5:26 pm
What really gave me chills is when Jonathan's girlfriend described how 'remorseful' he was after an argument such as when he hit her with the car trunk lid. Doesn't she realize that many abusers are extremely 'remorseful' but that doesn't stop them from repeating themselves and the abuse getting worse over time? The reason these men do this is because they can. The only way to stop them is to leave and perhaps if they ever want a real relationship, they might seek counseling. However, forgiving them doesn't seem to work. I too don't understand why the producers think we, the viewers, are interested in seeing these type of characters in a reality show. I fast forward every time he's on, because I can't stand to watch him. He is ruining my enjoyment of an otherwise interesting show. How can that be good for ratings?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 9:11 pm
Did Victoria say Jonathon was remorseful?? I missed it if she did. I did hear Rebecca say that Adam was remorseful... but Rebecca should still leave him (like what Cricket says...)
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 9:20 pm
I think Julieboo's right, the woman saying that her partner was remorseful was Rebecca, after Adam (the guy with the horns) shouted at her after HE lost his sunglasses. At least those two talk through their problems, even if they do seem to repeat them.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 10:23 pm
yep, it was Hellboy
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, November 26, 2004 - 1:49 am
I think MJ's apology was the first really sincere apology I have seen this season. Everyone yells at everyone else and they are always saying they are sorry and they never sound like they mean it. But she sounded like she was really sorry for the way she acted. I had tears in my eyes and I can't remember when I ever felt that way about any of these people.
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