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Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
BTW - Rob and Amber are simply cast to attract viewers. Same as Alison and Donnie. There's a lot of people who watch survivor who do NOT watch TAR. By casting the all star winners some of those viewers will check out TAR.

TV shows are all about making money, they make money by attracting the largest amount of young viewers possible. It isn't fair of fans of the show to expect them to make decisions that will harm their financial prospects instead of help them.

I'd rather watch Romber any day over a couple like Jonathan and Victoria anyways. So, I'm keeping this in perspective.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
(I think the Romber wedding will be a Mark Burnett production - that was the original plan. However the blurb I recently heard about it happening this summer made no mention of who was producing it. But, I don't see any reason why MB would have dropped out. So....)

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I would rather watch Romber over Rupert so I am not complaining.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
burnett has said he will produce the wedding of rob and amber and use it for may sweeps or as a summer mini-series. i am so not going to watch! i wish they weren't going to be on TAR, but maybe they will go early. they've had their time (twice each on survivor, for heaven's sake!) and they have enough money, not to mention the cars and whatever they will get paid for their wedding.

i'd much rather see unit and half-unit on this show!! wouldn't it be fun to see some tvcher's on this race?

Spear
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08-06-2001

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
On The Early Show, they did show a clip of Kendra's lowlights (Freddy's, too), including the "breeding" and "poverty" comments. Kendra didn't seem to express any regrets, saying that it was a shock to her to see so much poverty.


Sherbear
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07-19-2001

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 12:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was very disappointed K/F won. I dislike them both. The really sad part for me was that she still doesn't "get it" that I can see on cbs this morning. I would have dumped her if I were Freddie last night after worthy of having her children.

Jon and Kris were wonderful. I liked Rebecca and Adam, I felt bad there relationship fell apart.

That lock challenge was wicked.

I can't wait to see how Romber do on TAR.


Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Konamouse:

According to the video extras on the show site, K/J gave away some of their belongings on the train headed into Chicago from the airport, and got someone they met on the train to keep their backpacks until they could pick them up later.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 12:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I noticed in the show, that their packs were gone when they went to the pizza place. I figured they had done something to that effect. Or just tossed all of their stuff they'd never use again.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Wilson!
Watching the show last night we noticed that Freddy & Kendra were traveling lighter after leaving China (show's they have seen the show before and knew they were heading to the final leg and would be faster traveling light), I was really worried about J/K running around Chicago with those big bags. I think A/R knew they were last so it didn't matter.

'squeek'

Creampuff
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08-27-2001

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Many thanks Gina for bringing me up to date about the Romber (luv that!) nuptials. Appreciate knowing info and knowing when to watch for the actual date of it so I will remember NOT to watch!

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 2:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I guess Romber relationship didn't fall apart during the stress of TAR if they are still planning on getting married.

Hayden was hard to watch last night. You like people because of things, you love them in spite of things. Aaron must really love her. I hope he's seen her at her worst, I cannot imagine she could get much worse. I understand being frustrated but treating all those people in China that way...geez! Doesn't help the negative image of Americans that many overseas have.

Many many posts up, Kappy wrote: "What a difference in these couples. Kris and Jon once again showed what class and grace they have. That's true love when you can enjoy kissing each other while waiting for a train knowing you're coming in 2nd place. I think we all know exactly how Kendra and Freddy would have reacted in the same circumstances. Kris and Jon are the real winners in life!"

...I think if Hayden and Aaron had been stopped by the train, I would have worried that Hayden would jump in front of it.

LOL that the CBS guy cut off Adam's horns!

Speaking of Adam, in the beginning of the race, he treated Rebecca pretty badly at times. I don't see him as any sweetheart of a guy at all. He was very rude to the airlines lady in China calling her mean. IMO he isn't mature enough to handle the money responsibly if he would've won.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 2:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought there was too much footage of Jonathan last night. He really got on my nerves with his arm up in the air during the final shot.

Karen
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09-07-2004

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 2:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Happymom, I noticed that too. What an obnoxious ----- (self-mod myself here.)

The other thing I noticed last night, that struck me as oddly funny, was when F/K were heading to do the deep-dish pizza, and Kendra was complaining that she couldn't eat that much. Freddy says, "Oh don't worry, you can throw it up" and Kendra goes, "Yessss!" -- the same kind of "Yes!" you get out of a five year old who just got the cool Schwinn bike he's wanted FOREVER. She was WAY too excited about the opportunity to make herself sick. Did anyone else notice this?

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 3:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Roxip hit the nail on the head!! Scorpio also

not only were the last challenges 'nonchallenging' I wish someone would explain to me WHY the plane waited for Freddy to run to it. The plane was loaded and with Jon on board geared up ready to jump!

What kind of crap is it that Freddy (who was SECOND) wasnt made to wait the usual half hour for the next plane!? That is how it always is when they have to do a jump.

This 'waiting' for Freddy made my family think that the Producers were slanting the show towards Freddy and Kendra due to their marketability!!

Kris and Jon are nice but not contraversial enough.

When we saw the RIDICULOUS challenge involving 2 pieces of a nice pizza, well, it was obvious that both Fr and Kend were playing to the cameras and the task was nothing more than a way to ENSURE that the first team arriving would KEEP first place. (as if ANYONE here would call Pizza a legitimate challenge!!)

All three of the last three challenges were weak, in my opinion. I expected a REAL roadblock or task to give us the final two teams......not some silly who can find the fastest flight crap. That lead of fifteen mins made the win imho.

All season we had to sit thru the teams being on the same plane.....or waiting for a tourist place to open up etc.....yet here at the very end, the most important tasks - Ridiculous stuff. I dont know.

Kinda turned off right now.


Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 5:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What I don't get is how K/J got so far behind F/K since they were both on the same subway train?

They landed at O'Hare and would have to take the Blue line downtown. I didn't see them transfer trains, so the Water Tower exit would leave them 1.67 miles away, but a straight shot down Chicago Ave.
If they went father and transferred to the Red line, then they would have been let off only 1/4 mile from Water Tower. This is what it looked like to me and they only had to go 2 blocks east and turn the corner. But I never saw then have to switch trains.

Gino's East is less than 3/4 of a mile from Water Tower and F/K were gone before K/J even got there. This means they would have at least a 5-10 minute lead.

Ping Tan Park is less than 4 miles away from Gino's East, but is not necessarily a well know Chicago landmark. Knowing/guessing that it was in Chinatown would help. Millennium Park would have been a cool place to finish, but there would have been no chance to taxi drivers getting lost going to that location.

Anyway, I agree that the last tasks were 'non challenging' and quite a let down. Funny thing is, it could have been even worse since Gino's East does not usually open until 11:00 am. So all 3 teams should have been bunched up less than 4 miles from the finish. That probably would have been fitting, given the unusually high number of bunching points this season.


Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 5:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kris and Jon had some trouble finding the Water Tower. I don't know if the subway has lots of exits and they just tore off in the wrong direction and had to back track?? I wished they'd made it more clear, that's definitely where they lost the race.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 10:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought these last tasks were lame, also. The only one which was decent was the sky dive, but I recall seasons ago them having to drive dog sleds up in Alaska and then get to NY afterward. Plus, I agree Freddy should have had to wait or another plane. At least they didn't have him jump at the same time as Jon, but still. It didn't seem really fair to me. Of course Jon was nice to Freddy when he got there. Can you imagine if it had been the other way around? Freddy probably would have been screaming at them to hurry up and take off!

Pizza? Puleeeeze! Even the canoe and picking the clothes were simple tasks. I expected far more for the last leg of the race.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 11:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Karen I TOTALLY noticed Kendra's excitement about vomiting. I laughed. Her "Yessss!" was very much like Napoleon Dynamite at the milk-tasting competition.

It was funny today, in my biology class, my biology prof was going through her notes, and while she's waiting for us to finish writing, she goes "Hey does anyone watch the Amazing Race?" to which about six of us in class were all like "Yes" in a bitter tone, and she's like...."OK I'll ask....is anyone else as disappointed as I am?" and we were all like "Yes totally!!"

My teacher went on to call Kendra a racist c-word. It was EXCELLENT. Maybe I just think that because I am not offended at that word, or I believe "if the show fits..."

Add me to the pile of people who thought (even before the race was over) that the skydiving would be one at a time in the plane. But playing devil's advocate, I also think we would have thought it was stupid to have a FORCED 1/2 hour difference in times, during the final leg.

Hey what was with China and how not a single team got on their first flight? What was that all about? I don't fly that much, but I've always just bought the ticket, and caught the plane I was assigned for, without any troubles. I'm not sure if it is common to switch flights, or be not allowed on a flight you booked and paid for? Is this a thing that is allowed in the States only? (Mind you here in Canada, a relative cannot see you to the exact gate either. They drop you off before the security check, and then you're all alone on the other side, for at least half an hour, but not yet on a plane. I always find that part of my trip a bummer.)

Karen
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09-07-2004

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 1:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Eeyore... they caught their plane from China to Japan, and then were trying to fanangle faster flights from Japan to Hawaii than the ones they'd previously booked. They got to the counter of a faster connecting flight in Japan just a few minutes too late. At least, that's what I figured.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It's been reported that the differnece between F/K and K/J at the end was about 7 minutes. And if you listened carefully, just after F/K hit the finish line, you could hear the train that stopped K/J in the background. It's likely that even if K/J had beaten the train, they still would have been too far back to beat F/K. It came down to the navigation to the water tower. F/K found it quickly, K/J didn't.

Azriel
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08-01-2000

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 6:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey what was with China and how not a single team got on their first flight? What was that all about? I don't fly that much, but I've always just bought the ticket, and caught the plane I was assigned for, without any troubles. I'm not sure if it is common to switch flights, or be not allowed on a flight you booked and paid for? Is this a thing that is allowed in the States only?

The way I understood it (and I might be wrong) they had tickets and were booked on flights, but when they arrived in Japan they saw that another flight was leaving earlier than the one they were booked on. They tried to get a ticket on that flight, but the flight was already boarding and it was too close to time when they had to close the gate.

On international flights, you can't just buy a ticket a few minutes before the flight takes off and jump on. You have to have your ticket and be checked in at the airline counter an hour ahead of your flight. This gives them time to scan your luggage and put it on the plane(which wasn't a factor with the AR teams, but it still is just one reason for the rule and employees can't bypass it because they had no luggage) and check the names of the actual checked in passengers on the flight against terrorist and other loonies lists before the plane takes off.

The people that Adam said she let just waltz by, didn't buy their tickets and jump on like he wanted to. They had checked in in time and had just waited until the last minute to board the plane.

In some countries they might not be so strict, but I know from traveling through the Tokyo airport they are very high on security and strict about the rules in Japan.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 8:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Isn't the USA that dictates some of these very strict rules? I seem to remember some european airlines getting fed up with all the new security screening requirements that the US was requiring. The airlines tried to call the USA's bluff, but the USA started revoking landing privlidges? Something like that. That flight was bound for Hawaii, so it probably had some pretty serious restrictions over just letting folks waltz on. The best the gate could do at that point was a quick hand check of their back packs and the camera people's equipment. I don't think the airline was willing to do that. (Remember last season it was a safety guideline for luggage the messed up teams in second and third places as well - just as the were flying to the USA - although I believe that one was a pan North American rule.)

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 9:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No, the US was one of the most lax, regarding boarding/screening regulations, until 9/11 that is, when they had to play catch up pretty quick.

I think you're thinking of the new visual id rules the US has. Visitors now have to go through some strange face mapping thing and have a fingerprint taken. It's pretty quick but still, some people think it's a violation. Some other countries said that if their citizens had to do that coming into the US, then US citizens had to do it coming into their countries. I don't think anything came of that in the end because the other countries weren't set up to do that.

Schoolmarm
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02-18-2001

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
In Germany, you have to go through a second security screening by the gate if you are flying to America. What fun...get to take out the computer and take of the shoes twice!

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Friday, February 11, 2005 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That's is what I'm saying - this did take place after 9/11. Rules prior to that are pretty irrelevant to TAR 6. Since 9/11 the USA has put a huge onus onto intl' airlines flying into the USA - far exceeding facial recognition - that was even more recent. These gate attendants weren't going to make an exception for some reality show contestants.

BTW - even flying within the USA I've been put through double screenings. I once purchased tickets less than 24 hours before a I flew - that puts you on a their "be very very careful" list. LOL Everyone was polite - but you just have to be patient - and get used to taking off your shoes.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, February 11, 2005 - 5:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I know, I was just pointing out that the rules that held up the contestants are nothing new in many airports, I've been flying in and out of London airports for many years and the rules there are very little changed now from ten years ago. Maybe I'm wrong and it's just the UK. You can blame, or I suppose thank, the IRA for that.


Azriel
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08-01-2000

Friday, February 11, 2005 - 7:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The regulations you were referring to had to do with the Visa Waiver Program and US Visit Program. Citizens from EU countries and a few other countries have an automatic waiver on visas when they enter the US. The US told these countries that before the end of October 2004 they had to have a machine readable passport with a biometric identifier (fingerprint) to enter the US without a visa. If you visit the US without this type of passport you would have to apply for a visa and be fingerprinted and have your face scanned. (UK visitors were exempted from this because they already had in place a plan to have identifying chips in their passports by 2005) Some countries balked at this deadline saying there wasn't time to implement this.

Concerning the plane you mentioned: Brazil announced that they would be fingerprinting and photographing every US citizen that landed in Brazil in retaliation for the regulations. An American Airlines pilot was arrested in Sao Paolo when, in protest, he made an obscene gesture with his finger when he was being photographed. At first, they detained the whole crew, but later released them.

The US did end up giving the countries a year extension on the biometric requirement.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Friday, February 11, 2005 - 11:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The US Visit program doesn't apply to US citizens trying to re-enter the US. Nor should it stop someone from getting on a flight - the biometric measurements are taken at the point of entry - in this case - customs in Hawaii.

The likely security restriction are proper screening of baggage, including testing for explosives and running the names of the passengers through the watch lists. Way too many flights have been turned back mid-flight for failing to check all the passenger names against this list until after take off. That is expensive to an airline. I don't think this one was willing to deal with that hassle.

Keep in mind too - this isn't just letting Adam and Rebecca on board - it's letting their camera and sound guy on as well. They each carry a supposed 70 lbs of equipment with them (it's what I've read on other boards where former racers post). It isn't a casual decision to let them on. Supposedly TAR does a lot of up front leg work to attempt to minimize waits caused by their crew - i.e. letting airlines know what to expect - but that doesn't mean there aren't occasional issues.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 3:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That is probably why sometimes the clue says "1 of 3 flights" when they head to an airport - the producers have made prior arrangements & reserved seats on those particular flights.

'squeek'

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, February 14, 2005 - 12:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I got the impression that part of the issue was that there were no meals available on board - one of the women kept saying that.

I don't travel, so I know that I don't have to deal with the hassle, but if tighter restrictions keep one plane from being flown into another building then they are worth it.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Monday, February 14, 2005 - 1:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
well we know some things are edited out without an effect on the game.....most people believe that there was an extra clue in Chicago that the teams had to do that we didn't see...because people from there know the area, and they didn't have to take a cab from the water tower to the pizza place...they weren't that far apart.

here it is

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Monday, February 14, 2005 - 3:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Does anyone still have a tape of the finale they could let me borrow? Somehow we lost it off the DVR before my housemate could watch it.