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Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 10:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Adam is a <el>. Rebecca should dump his <el>.

Hayden is <el>. Aaron is nice.

Lori is also <el>. Volo is way nicer than she is.

Jonathon, <el>...

Hera& Gus, Utah sisters, Kris&Jon, Fred&Ken, Don&MJ; I like all these ones so far. Kris/Jon, Utah and Don/MJ the best.



Blender
Member

11-16-2004

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 11:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Question Do you guys think teams from past seasons got as lost and were just as muddled as the teams from this season but all that stuff was edited out or is this season's teams mostly made up up of people who aren't too bright?

Something seems different this season. It's like we're watching them struggle more than we've seen in the past.

Tabbyking
Member

03-11-2002

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 11:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i think the clues are easier to follow the last few amazing races. i remember the one with the mom and daughter and one of them having to drive a little car through some town and it was totally confusing to find this little alleyway--the other team member got there via different transportation. i think the first amazing race or two seemed more difficult than the more recent ones, but maybe i'm getting smarter?! LOL

my favorite ditzes were the legal eagles, who also could not drive a stick; they hit that pole when delivering wine and i thought i was going to fall down laughing--while feeling sorry for the audio/visual team who had to ride with them :-) ... and thought 'walk to the next pit stop' meant they could take a cab to the location and then walk the last 50 feet.

tonight i was surprised there wasn't a penalty for the gals using that teenage boy to help them through a long portion of the race. i know people have had help with a specific challenge (helping to push the taxis without engines, etc.), but not so much help from one person before.



Dogdoc
Member

09-29-2001

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 6:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I wondered if the producers left extra clues in the box so racers wouldn't know how many are ahead of them. It is a good thing they do or taking an extra clue could be disastrous to the last racer. I think taking the extra clue was selfish and did deserve a penalty.Didn't one team leave their clue in a airport in an earlier AR and have to follow somebody's cab to know where to go (I think it was in Alaska)?

Riviere
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09-09-2000

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This 6th TAR has me not rooting for a fave early on. Amazing.. I usually click with at least 1 team after week 2 and find another 2 teams I can root against!
I can relate to Don & Mary.. When she said they prepared for detours and agreed Mary would do all the zinging off cliffs and Don would do the more demanding physical stamina detours, she got very pyst when Don insisted climbing the steps was one of the harder things and he should do it! She knows him like a book, that was too funny.
My hubby & I agreed if we're ever on TAR he can do all the heights, swimming, caviar eating work and I'd do the wimpy things like exploring caves and solving puzzles and working with animals.
Hope Don & Mary stay in! IF Jonathan & Victoria stay together that long they could try TAR 2040 after mellowing with age?
Can anyone enlighten me on Adam's hair?!? Has the 2 antenna looking pigtails replaced a sweat band, or is it a fad to resemble Shrek?




Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Okay, I will say Hayden is very bossy. <>

But bossy will do for Hayden, Adam, Lori and Jonathon.

So far all the others seem nice.

But if Aaron, Rebecca, Bolo and Victoria put up with that kind of treatment, then I guess they deserve what they get...

<QT>



Marej
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09-20-2002

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
On the previews it looked like they were in the IKEA store. These people yell, scream and call each other baby to much. I got a headache. I like Lena and the dating long distance couple.

Ar_jammer
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11-17-2004

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 7:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
oops.. links were not active

Ar_jammer
Member

11-17-2004

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Great episode. Lots of twists and surprises. This what I found on the web.

Maps of Norway:

You can see Voss here.
http://www.sitesatlas.com/Europe/Norway/mnorint.htm
Couldn’t find a greate interactive map like Iceland but this one works.
You can find Oslo, and Foss… and then find E16 road.
Nesheimstunet village doesn’t show on this map.
Recommend you enlarge as you work through it.
LINK
Here’s another one… found it more difficult to navigate.

Holmenkollen Ski Jump Links
http://www.norway.com/directories/d_company.asp?lang=44&id=677&r=0
http://www.visitoslo.com/winter-Holmenkollen/
Very Cool
http://oslo360.com/qtvr/pages/surround1.html

The Brandbu Viking Village… night stop
Okay this was very tough…
Unfortunately I can’t read this… but this has to be the place; check out the picture with the tent and the address at the bottom of the page
http://www.aktivioslo.no/kunder/raukr_viking/

ended up finding a better map.
Here is a link to Brandbu
http://www.multimap.com/wi/28871.htm
Voss can be found on that map page too but the link was too long.

Voss Panorama link:
http://www.svf.uib.no/sfu/nasa/img/Voss_180.jpg
Where is Voss:
http://www.ekstremsportveko.com/Info/maps.htm
Visit Voss:
http://www.visitvoss.no/
and I was trying to find the Pit stop… it was very close to Voss… using the map I found this through a link for Nesheim, Norway.
http://www.multimap.com/wi/75369.htm
This link has links to many places in Norway.
http://www.multimap.com/index/NO1.htm

Traditional Viking Game of Kubb… for all those ready to go out and buy a set…
Here are the rules:
http://www.nickys-nursery.co.uk/seeds/pages/garden-games15A.htm

Well this is it for episode 2. Hope you like the links.
Ar_jammer






Roxip
Member

01-29-2004

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I had to laugh when somebody referred to Victoria as the botox woman. Her face is kind of scary because it is SOOOO still. But if I lived with her husband I would be likely to spend as much of his money as I possibly could in a petty act of revenge.

Last year was my first Amazing Race, but these teams seem so much more confused than the ones last year. Like them or not Colin and Christie were in the game all the time (with the exception of the broken ox).

I can understand not knowing how to drive a stick, but once you've done it for a little while you generally can catch on - what I couldn't understand was how every time she got in the car it was like a whole new thing every time...for goodness sakes! I wonder if these girls even knew how to drive and just learned for the Race?

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I can't believe J/V. I think he fits the profile of an abuser (first-hand knowledge unfortunately), and when she flinched last night I hurt for her.
She seems to be insecure (for whatever reason) and it's like he feeds into that. I wish she would take that "test" - Are You Living with an Abuser? Then again, she's probably so dominated by him she wouldn't answer the questions honestly, but with him in the back of her mind.
My holiday wish is that they go home (early) and watch the tapes of the way they interact. And change.
(As usual, any opinions expressed on this site are not endorsed by TVCH and are the sole views of the individual.)
Have an enjoyable holiday, everyone!

Ar_jammer
Member

11-17-2004

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the previews support that Bluejaxrock.. it look like something physical almost happened in the car.

Karen
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09-07-2004

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't know how many times I saw Jonathan prepare to hit her. You know what I mean, you can see the person tense up, he clenches his fist and brings his arm closer to himself like he's getting ready to hit something, then at the last second, remembers, "Oh, right. We're not at home here. There's a camera crew following my every move. Can't hit her here." I saw him 1)shove her away as they asked for directions in traffic, 2)slam her on the head with the hatchback of the car as she was still leaning in there trying to grab her bag, 3)*almost* hit her in the back of the cab - this is the one where he wound up like he was going to punch her, then remembered where he was, and 4)upcoming from next week, as he grabs the map and rips it out of her hands.

THIS MAN IS TERRIFYING. After some of his behaviour last night, I'm surprised the producers didn't step in and say something to him. No matter how stressed this race can make you, domestic violence is not going to make it better, nor should it be tolerated. I hope they threaten to eliminate the both of them if Jon hits her once more.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Honestly, I think Jonathan is likely reading various message boards around the net and getting a huge thrill to see that so many people are talking about him. "Look ... we've got 23 pages on TWOP, and Gus and Hera only have 12! People love to hate us! They love us!" Ickkkkk.

There are teams or players in reality shows that you love to hate. I can say with all honesty that I don't love to hate this team. I won't use the word "hate," but I strongly dislike their behavior, primarily from Jonathan but to be honest from his wife as well. I honestly wish they had never been picked for the show ... at all. It feels cheap somehow.

You just know the guy will say afterwards that he was "playing" the villain ala Will on BB or Johnny Fairplay on Survivor -- but his behavior so far goes beyond duplicity or devious behavior for me.

I find it very difficult to watch this team. They give me absolutely no pleasure -- perverse or otherwise. I just wish they weren't on the show. There are enough whiny, b*tchy people already this season ... we don't need straight up abuse added to the mix.

I hope the casting people at Race are listening ... and that they figure out that this type of behavior crosses a line somehow for viewers, and ultimately turns them off.

But it is more likely that the producers will react just as I suspect Jonathan will -- excited that this team is generating so much conversation and buzz. Yuck.

Lancecrossfire
Moderator

07-13-2000

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 11:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yankee--great post about that team. It is so weird watching them--both of them are extremely polite to all locals--saying please and thank you every time (at least every times shown). Yet they treat each other with such disrespect.

When he keeps saying for her to get inside of herself, she needs to tell him to do the same--get inside of himself and figure out why he acts like such a <MG>.

Intensity is no excuse for his behavior--I feel I'm a very intense person, and if I treated people like that, I'd want someone to shoot me.

Happymom
Member

01-20-2003

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
So many people are blaming their teammate on this season. I can't stand it! Well, I can I guess, because Iwill continue to watch as this is such a great show. However, all the yelling and put downs and blaming are really taking the fun out of it for me. I love Phil, I love the concept, I love this show. But these people are really not easy to watch! I think Colin and Christie from last season were the only couple so antagonistic towards each other, well, Colin towards Christie anyway. When it's just one couple, it's not so bad.

There are a couple of teams that are a pleasure to watch, the long distance dating couple, the sisters, and the friends that unfortunately were just eliminated. Also, the friends elim. last week. Not that I want to only see kind behavior...I thought the moms from last season really let the tension get to them a couple of times...that's just real life. But Jonathan is very hard to watch. I feel badly for Victoria, I actually fear for her, but I don't like her whining either. It's hard to listen to both of them.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 12:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lance, I am surprised that you thought they were polite to strangers. I got the impression they were rude. Every time I've watched them ask for directions or something, the moment they get the info they need, they bolt away from the person who helped. I haven't noticed a sincere thank you yet. Maybe I will go back and watch again, but honestly, I think too many Americans like Jonathon are traveling the world. When you hear the rumour that Americans are treated poorly when they travel, it's people like him who have caused us to act that way. (Minus the spousal abuse).

What I cannot believe is how the producers have not stepped in and controlled them(him). The fact that he was yelling at everyone in the boat, and made one of the NY girls cry, really vexed me. I loved when the one guy said "get your own <bleep>ing stuff" when they got out of the boat. Nice.

I really didn't like Hayden in this episode either. I just wanted to hug Aaron. But that could just be me being a pervert. heh heh.

As for Bolo and Victoria, I really just think they are an intense couple. They yell, but it seems that they both aren't HURT by the yelling. They understand it's part of their intense identities, and I think neither of them are too horrible. It's just how they relate to each other.

Did anyone else want ot cry, when we were privy to the horn-haired guy getting sort-of dumped by his girl? Awwww. I felt so bad for him. How can anyone want to continue competing for the next ten legs of the race, when they have no hope with the person? AND, I think it was somewhat selfish/hypocritical of the girl to condemn HIM for yelling at her, yet SHE does the same thing to him.

I like the sisters, but also wondered about the guy that got to help them for so long. It's nice that they are nice to each other, and still supportive. Kris and Jon are total sweeties too. I hope they go far.

Is there no Fast Forward this year? I didn't watch last season, so this may be an outdated question. Just wondering....

I like that the old lady had no scruples, and wanted to continue on with the wrong car. heh heh heh. The old guy had to go "No! That's STEALING!" Ha!! That made me LOL!!

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 12:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No cause I thought the Peewee Herman played out hairstyle guy acted like an idiot but then again so did she so they probably deserved each other.

Schoolmarm
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02-18-2001

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 12:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks for the transcription. I'm sitting here in an Internet cafe in Munich and just saying 'Holy Crap' they FINALLY go to NORWAY and I didn't get to see it.

I've been to most of the places that they visited in Norway, and I would have loved to have seen that episode.

Can't wait to see it next week....and will check out the behaviors that you all are posting about.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
As far as Jonathan is concerned, yes he is reading the boards and is getting a kick out of them. I have decided to totally ignore him, not post anything else about him, and hope others do the same. If no one posts about him, maybe he will disappear.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 1:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I hope this show returns to its normal, semi-civil tone soon. It's reminding me of the elections too much right now with all the bickering, preening, and silliness. I can take one "dysfunctional" couple--we have one every season--but do we really need five of them?

Marej
Member

09-20-2002

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 1:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jonathon reminds me of the <> dude, Lance, on CMT's Cowboy U.

<QT>

Gen
Member

08-22-2003

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wasn't it Jonathan that grabbed Phil's jacket with both hands at the final pit stop? Phil looked like he expected Jonathan to hit him. There was just a instant moment of fear in Phil's eyes.

Blender
Member

11-16-2004

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 3:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wasn't it Lori who grabbed Phil's coat?

I agree with all of you. I don't feel comfortable watching Johnathon. The guy makes Colin from last season seem like a likable guy.

Yankee_in_ca
Member

08-01-2000

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 3:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh I am really really loath to give them any more "hits" to their website, but Jonathan and Victoria are already blaming the edit via their website (in the Blog section)

http://www.jonathanbakerandvictoriafuller.com/