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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 9:06 pm
Another big thanks, Raen!
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 9:51 pm
I couldn't keep track of all the different cab fares. The only one that was clear to me was the 30 to drive them to the fish drying area. Once they got there, the driver asked for more than he originally said. So, they didn't stiff him. All the rest - I have no clue. Very confusing who was giving what price.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 10:18 pm
DId anyone else catch what he saidd when the last team arrived? This is one of 'several' (?) non elimination legs of the race? With 8 teams, are the final 4 last show or final 3? I'm wondering how many weeks, and am curious how much time is left! great show, awesome work raen!
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 11:08 pm
this was leg 4 reader. Up until last season, the final 3 teams raced legs 12+13 (last non-elim was leg 12). Last season tho, because of the lose all your money for last place in non-elim legs rule, they did the last non-elim in leg 11. so there there will be 3 more non-elims no later than leg 11 if they do what they did last season. Usually, the last 2 legs will be shown as a 2hr finale. Assuming they don't plan any pre-emptions for the holidays and no other 2-hour, 2-leg eps execpt for the finale, here's the schedule: 12/14: Leg 5 12/21: Leg 6 12/28: Leg 7 1/4: Leg 8 (tho there could possibly be a preemption, because the Orange Bowl-the BCS championship- is on ABC that night) 1/11: Leg 9 1/18: Leg 10 1/25: Leg 11 2/1: Legs 12 and 13 And take this into account as well: February Sweeps don't start till 2/3. CBS may want to do the finale in Sweeps, so they may do a pre-emption somewhere around the holidays.
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Ar_jammer
Member
11-17-2004
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 4:39 am
links not working... reposting
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Ar_jammer
Member
11-17-2004
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 4:44 am
Episode 4 Links. This was a fun episode. First stop… Stockholm town hall tower http://www.planetware.com/photos/S/S003.HTM http://www.jeckels.com/photoDetail?PhotoId=2792&CategoryIndex=4&ReferringCategoryId=359 and one more. http://www.chenowith.k12.or.us/whs/finland/images/024CityHall.jpg Hand pointing in the river… http://www.jeckels.com/photoDetail?PhotoId=2794&CategoryIndex=6&ReferringCategoryId=359 Dakar Senegal Okay. Just a destination Senegal page. http://www.shoestring.co.kr/dest/afr/sen.htm Starting with a map of the city. You can see the Ile de Goree in the bottom right. This is actually an interesting site. http://www.au-senegal.com/decouvrir_en/cart_dk.htm Looking for Leopold Sedar Senghor, Poems, and Bel Air Cemetery. Bel air cemetery. Found references but nothing substantial. Maybe someone else can find something.Here is a history of Leopold Sedar Senghor, poet and past president. He died in December 2001 http://www.au-senegal.com/decouvrir_en/senghor.htm La femme noir, Poem in French http://www.wpunj.edu/~irt/courses/eng150/ho10.htm Here is a page with many of Senghor’s poems http://poesie.caloucaera.net/senghor.html Kayar fishing village and Lac Rose are both visible on this map. Same site. http://www.au-senegal.com/decouvrir_en/cart_pcote.htm Kayar is apparently a popular surfing spot. http://www.wannasurf.com/spot/Africa/Senegal/kayar/ another map.. lac rose is southwest of Kayar http://www.fallingrain.com/world/SG/7/Kayar.html pictures of kayar http://www.moosewood.com/OpAfrica/streetscenes.html boat picture http://www.un.org/Photos/senegal/187249.jpg Lac Rose Nice picture site of Lac Rose http://www.alovelyworld.com/webseneg/htmgb/lacrose.htm can’t read this one… http://www.au-senegal.com/decouvrir/geo_retba.htm Ile de Goree / slave prison Map of the island from the same site as above http://www.au-senegal.com/decouvrir_en/cart_goree.htm pictures… info http://www.au-senegal.com/decouvrir_en/geo_goree.htm http://www.igougo.com/planning/journalEntryActivity.asp?journalID=5263&entryID=9108&n=Ile+de+Goree UNESCO site for Goree Island, very cool. Guided visit with photos and text http://webworld.unesco.org/goree/en/index.shtml That’s it for this week. Enjoy the links.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 6:33 am
I've always been fascinated with Senegal so it was really cool to see it on TAR last night. I did a project when I was an undergrad on the "Negritude" poets, of which Senghor was probably the most famous and I used to listen to a Senegalese singer, Youssou N'Dour, all the time [a bad habit I picked up when I lived in France and had some Senagalese and Cote D'Ivoire-ian friends--half the time I didn't understnd what he was saying because in an ethnic Senagalese language instead of French]. Anyhow, I really want to go to Senegal but I don't think it's necessarily a safe bet for travel these days.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 10:34 am
Thanks Wilson! (and others!!)
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 9:04 pm
Random thoughts... Why oh why do Americans always look so, well, uncharitable when they are on the race? I can't believe how many teams don't pay the cab fares. Not paying cause "we didn't want to stop for air"? Sheesh. What's up sleeping in lobbies of hotels? They must ask for permission, although it doesn't get shown. Cause last I knew, it's kinda frowned on to crash out in the lobby. I mean, they ARE in the business to SELL rooms, yes? Did y'all notice how J/V seemed to calm down some this episode? Maybe, just maybe, someone on the crew told him to chill (or at the very least, quite with all the yelling). And honestly, I gotta say, I was impressed he stopped to give candy to the children. I still don't like him, but he's moved up a few notches in my estimation. I feel sorry for Don and MJ, but I think they are ought of their league. It must be tough to be the token older folks but... I totally LOL at Rebecca and Adam. He's really a piece of work, isn't he? I can tell why they were cast! I'm still not really rooting for anyone. I'd probably root for Gus and Hera, but Gus has to start keeping his danged shirt on. One more show with his shirt off, and he's gonna go down to the bottom of the pile!
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 9:24 pm
Costacat - It is HOT in Africa - we would probably have our shirts off too if it were allowed! While I have seen lots of better bodies, I have to admire Gus' spirit!
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Gen
Member
08-22-2003
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 9:35 pm
Not only was it hot in Africa, but he had just been out in some VERY salty water, working hard. Salt water makes clothes and skin feel sticky. So in this case, I don't really blame him for shedding the shirt. I would have felt the same way! 
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Ar_jammer
Member
11-17-2004
| Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 4:27 am
Costacat, Just about every one of your random thoughts went through my head too! The cab fares really bothered me also. how much money did they get for this leg of the race? and kendra griping to freddy about the cab versus train... i think that was the team. they were my favorite but not after this episode. Has anyone thought about face time vs staying in the game like on survivor? I would say at this point K/J, H/A, and sorry to say J/V are looking pretty good for final 3. but that's probably because they have less drama and get through the legs fastest... at least the last 2. I would guess TAR has too many variables to be sure about this. I hate to pick the leader as my favorite, but K/J just appear to be good players. Did you see the video on the website of how they decided on episode 3 who would step on the mat first? The guys, Jon and Aaron, did rock paper scissors. 
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 11:05 am
On some of those cab fares, the teams were quoted one fare upfront and then the drivers tried to charge a higher fare when they reached their destination. I have rode in cabs here in Dallas where the cabdrivers would start slowing down a block before they get to the light hoping for it to change to red before they get there to raise the fare a litte higher. There are also some that won't turn on red where it is allowed.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 12:41 pm
I agree - F/K had negotiated a $30 fare and then the cab driver tried to raise it after they reached their destination. Of course they looked like ugly Americans (I don't think Kendra can help it - that girl seems to be pretty mean-mouthed) when they didn't pay it. I thought it was Bolo giving out candy.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 12:54 pm
I have no idea what a fair cab rate would be in Senegal (or pretty much anywhere else for that matter). But, if someone quotes me a fare and then tries to charge me more at the end of the trip - I'd object too. Riding in cabs always makes me nervous since I grew up in an area where I never had to. I have no idea what I should be charged per mile, no idea what a fair tip is, and no sense of direction to know if they are taking me in circles to increase their fare. I think many Americans who grew up away from large cities where riding in cabs is the norm probably feel more like me. I remember riding in a cab one time in Chicago. The cabbie honked his horn the entire way - whether he was stuck behind people or not. LOL. I rarely honk my horn, even when I should. Just very different customes in some areas.
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Ar_jammer
Member
11-17-2004
| Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 3:22 pm
Roxip... definitely Jonathan giving out the candy... my jaw hit the floor! Maybe his Type A personality just gets the best of him... MOST of the time 
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 5:40 pm
This is such a poor country, I hope there are enough tourists at the pit stop to beg money from, or the older couple are going to be in big trouble.
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Ar_jammer
Member
11-17-2004
| Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 7:27 pm
Goree Island is a, if not the, primary tourist stop in the area. I don't think they will have any trouble finding people with money. And being the grandparent types... I expect this to be easy for them. But you are so right about it being a poor country.
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Chicagolooper
Member
05-09-2004
| Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 10:16 pm
Gina - Chicago cab drivers are so different than most. They will drive like maniacs to get you there faster, whether you want to or not and it is either fast or stop. Living here, I have learned to say I am not in a hurry and safe drivers get bigger tips. It works. 
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Friday, December 10, 2004 - 12:33 am
I'll keep that in mind. LOL! Don and MJ can beg for money at their hotel before the leg starts. Usually TAR puts the contestants up at pretty nice hotels. So, hopefully the can beg from well to do people. I like that the "no money rule" makes the race tougher - but I don't like well off Americans taking money from poor people just to entertain us the viewers (more well off people). Sorta icky. So far, in the previous season, it seemed like everyone who gave money to racers could more than afford it.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, December 10, 2004 - 12:12 pm
Last season when there was a non-elimination and no-money session of the race, I noticed they mostly started the next leg in previously arranged transport (e.g. drive the SUV to the airport...) so that the moneyless team was able to at least start the race even if they couldn't find anyone to donate to them where they were staying. Hopefully if they can't get much at the hotel, there will be an airport stop soon.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Friday, December 10, 2004 - 1:27 pm
Pan handling (begging) is against the law in my town. Seems odd that other places don't frown on it as well. It's one thing to do out of sight at a hotel, but doing it in an airport seems like trouble to me. Maybe with all the cameras around the police will ignore it.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Friday, December 10, 2004 - 3:35 pm
I think last season they tried to 'sell' someththing... ie apples... as opposed to out and out begging...
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Cousin_jake
Member
07-04-2002
| Saturday, December 11, 2004 - 9:49 am
When <RA> said he wanted children and his wife said that she thought he'd be a good father my jaw hit the floor! Yelling, screaming and name calling while on camera certainly makes one wonder how life's bumps in the road are handled when they're not on camera. Sounds like a pretty toxic environment to raise kids in to me. When I was a teenager and I started dating, my Mom and Dad told me to observe carefully how people behave when things go wrong. It was good advice.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Sunday, December 12, 2004 - 4:51 pm
My thought is they are going to have to have money to pay the water taxi to get off the island.
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Ar_jammer
Member
11-17-2004
| Monday, December 13, 2004 - 7:01 am
and then the taxi to the airport or destination next...
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, December 13, 2004 - 11:46 am
Yeah, you're right about the water taxi, it'll be hard to avoid that. (Sometimes they are given SUVs to drive so they might not need money for a while after that point.) So that pretty much leaves them needing to get money wherever the pitstop is... it wasn't even clear whether they were at a proper hotel. Hopefully the organisers have thought ahead and it will be possible to get enough money to get them off the island at least.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, December 13, 2004 - 11:49 am
Oh, just thought - maybe it isn't an island? They may have just taken the ferry to get to the other side of an area of water, there may be a land based way of leaving where they are (and hence they may be given SUVs or whatever to drive and not need money instantly). Guess we'll find out tomorrow.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Monday, December 13, 2004 - 1:00 pm
They kept referring to it as an island - so I think is really is an island. LOL! However, they rarely stay exactly at the pitstop, instead staying at some nice hotel - usually western friendly. The can beg there before being transported back to the pitstop to start the next race leg. They have occasionally put up the racers in tents at the exact location - if they do that this time, it will tougher on Don and MJ. But, I still think the island is full of tourists. It looked quite busy with shops and cafes and such as they were searching for the pitstop. (It is an island - see Ar_jammer map provided from the Link in his/her post (http://www.au-senegal.com/decouvrir_en/cart_goree.htm)
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Ar_jammer
Member
11-17-2004
| Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 3:37 am
The previews have Gus/Hera on the island. So they either stay there or go back. I vote stay. From reseaching, I believe there are many hotels on the island. Race day! Oh Gina. I am a he 
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Karen
Member
09-07-2004
| Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 12:18 pm
Reminder from last weeks' episode... Here is TWOP's Episode 4 Recap, by Miss Ali. As always, it's a long one. But as always, there's tears of laughter pouring down my face as I read it. Enjoy.
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