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Vsmart
Member
02-10-2003
| Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 10:21 am
This is the first TAR where they made 2 trips to the same continent. Perhaps there were no connecting flights or only one a week. Or they would have to travel thru dangerous areas.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 10:23 am
More than likely there are a lot more countries where it isnt safe for Americans to be travelling.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 10:56 am
Thanks for the link, Rslover. I wasn't going to watch J/V on the Early Show but caved. Just watching that clip tied my stomach in knots--even with Victoria giggling and Jonathon maintaining a soft, gentle tone of voice. Please let this be the last of them.
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Not1worry
Member
07-30-2002
| Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 11:19 am
I don't get why Rebecca said "So many questions." when Kendra asked why A/R yielded them. She was upset, but she wasn't really going after Rebecca. It just seemed like a strange comment for her to make. I too, am thrilled by the elimination. My favorite show is redeemed! Oddly, in every leg J/V were shrieking and screaming about how they were last, this was it, the race was lost, blah blah blah, even though they weren't even in the back of the pack sometimes. Then when they really are losing, there were no more hysterics. I honestly can't decide which of them I dislike more.
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Gen
Member
08-22-2003
| Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 11:45 am
Thanks for the link Rslover! Even cleaned and dressed up, Jonathan looks smarmy and sounds insincere! Good Riddance!
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Calamity
Member
10-18-2001
| Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 12:01 pm
I was again floored by some of Kendra's comments but it did seem as if both her heart and her mind were opened at least a little bit by her time in Ethiopia. I was glad to see that and hope it wasn't just wishful thinking on my part. As for Hayden, yeah, she does whine and complain but she's honestly never bothered me nearly as much as she seems to have others here. Now I have missed 1½ episodes this season so maybe something happened that I don't know about but, anyway, I was happy that she seemed to really enjoy that Roadblock. Her reaction & interactions with the kids really touched me and made this my favorite episode so far this season. At the Pit Stop, I held my breath until Phil said, "I'm sorry to say...". I don't like cheering against people but I'm just so glad that team is gone. While I did fret a bit over the donkeys, all in all, I liked the tasks, travel, and (most of the) teams this episode. Yea! P.S. I still hate the Yield.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 12:08 pm
Not1, I wondered about that too. But it sure was a nice deflective statement! LOL
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 12:17 pm
Kendra definitely had her mind and heart opened by her trip to Ethiopia. There's more of it on the Insider at the TAR CBS website. I also think that Kendra has the unfortunate ability to stick her foot in her mouth even when she's trying to say something nice. I'm not a Kendra fan, but I think a lot of the dislike I see pointed at her on-line is not fully earned. I think the scene when Rebecca said "so many questions" to Kendra was heavily edited. I have a feeling Kendra said a great deal more than was shown - probably a great deal more questions. In the end, Rebecca just kept her mouth shut - I really liked that. I think I would have settled on flattery and told her she was a great player and a big threat to little old inadequate me. It would be truthful and ego stroking. Chip and Kim used that strat last season when dealing with C/Colin. Rebecca and Adam made the right choice in yeilding Ken/Fred, because K/F are a strong team and J/V are so self destructive. In the end, it didn't help them, but that is only because R/A and J/V made additional mistakes - the mistakes only proved the point that bumping K/F from the race was a good move. I'm a bit frustrated that all these racers take game moves so personally. I guess it is most likely just human nature along with some selective editing. In the next breath after a complaint, the racer might have said "but it is only a game, so I need to chill out". But CBS would never edit that in. (Like Victoria saying this morning that she told Jon to continue working while she freaked over her cut finger. Of course CBS edited that out, because they wanted Jonathan to look like the uncaring competition obsessed guy. Sometimes when you hurt yourself you just need to hop around in pain for a few minutes - you don't need someone to hold your hand while doing it. Victoria's screeching was beyond annoying while hopping - but I've done similar hopping sans the screeching after hurting myself before.)
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Meli456
Member
05-01-2003
| Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 12:44 pm
I can't believe I forgot to record it again! I have a feeling I'll enjoy the next episodes a LOT more now that the scary couple is gone. We can only hope they disappear from the airwaves forever.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 12:52 pm
I forgot to watch...........And I only just realized this and it is almost 3:00 PM EST, the day AFTER the show was on. The only good thing is that the horrible J/V are gone. Hasta la vista babies..........
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Bbfanatic
Member
08-14-2000
| Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 1:11 pm
Stayed tuned for next weeks episode for MORE SCREAMING !! Hey, at least I dont have to listen to Victoria crying screams. She always sounded like a little kid in a shopping cart who didnt get the toy they wanted in Wallyworld.
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Bluejaxrock
Member
04-23-2004
| Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 9:46 pm
ITA, BBfanatic...I've been muting the tv every time those two are on. I figure if they had anything interesting to say, I'd read about it here. They really hurt my head...lol
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 1:58 am
So glad to see J/V gone. But.....is my memory failing me or, is Jonathan one of the very few who as least didn't come off as an ugly American to the locals? He does seem to be a good charmer/bs'er. So I suppose that's why he can act respectful to the local cultures. And Victoria. Was she asking to wear that man's shirt when she went into the church so she wouldn't be disrespectful by wearing a bikini into a place or worship? Or was she just not wanting to be exposed in front of all those men? And Adam....I've seen very few women throw the full fledged kind of hissy fit he did at the end there. I can't even remember what it was about. Something like he didn't know which way to walk or something? I don't condone Rebecca's treatment of him. But I suppose I can see why she chides him about acting like a girl. But really now, she picked him. She reminds me of my older sis. Sis was complaining one day about her bf she'd just broken up with. She was griping about how she wants someone to be a MAN and to take care of her and stuff. Yet, she is a very bossy and controlling person. I remember telling her, "you really are contradicting yourself. You want someone to be a man and take care of you, but you want to be in charge." Turns out she got back together with him and married him. 
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Cousin_jake
Member
07-04-2002
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 5:34 am
Glad Jon and Vic are gone. All the screaming and yelling tied my stomach in knots. Also, does anyone know any so called adult person who screeches, screams and cries when they've been injured? What a drama queen. Did they clarify what her injury was when they appeared on the early show?
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Mak1
Member
08-12-2002
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 6:45 am
Her injury was the same as Freddy's. They were both cut on nails. She said hers was a deep cut. She also said they didn't show us the part where, after Kendra hollered at J to help V, V calmed down and told him to continue working on the challenge. "Calmed down"? Did she see and hear herself screaming and crying when she went back over to the hut? Oh, I am so happy they are gone.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 7:42 am
Oh I don't know. A friend of mine closed and locked a car door on his fingers (accidentally of course). By the time he got free, he was screaming and screeching more than a bit! Having said that, I'm not sorry to see them gone, though I would have been even happier if Kendra was eliminated.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 7:52 am
I saw last night on ET that Jonathan and Victoria will be on Dr. Phil's primetime special airing in February.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 9:21 am
Jonathan one of the very few who as least didn't come off as an ugly American to the locals? That's a good point. While he was a little over the top when trying to connect with the locals, he didn't appear to be an "ugly America". And Victoria. Was she asking to wear that man's shirt when she went into the church so she wouldn't be disrespectful by wearing a bikini into a place or worship? Or was she just not wanting to be exposed in front of all those men? I'm guessing she wanted to be respectful of the worshippers. Victoria was a Playboy centerfold. I find it hard to believe, after posing nude, she'd be concerned about being exposed.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 9:28 am
That is a very good point and rather ironic. Both Jonathon and Victoria were not "ugly Americans" as far as the locals were concerned and the respect that they showed for them (for example, Victoria wearing the shirt) was very nice to see.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 9:42 am
Screaming at every cab driver to "go go go" and screaming agitatedly at the top of their lungs, "We are in a race" and getting mad because people don't speak English in a non-English speaking country aren't the most respectful things, though.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 9:46 am
dont you gusy remember them getting kicked out of a cab for being obnoxious? I think it was in Budapest. Also his yelling in the restaurant during that eating competition where she was throwing up certainly appeared to offend the waiters. I think they offended a lot of locals with their antics.
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Gen
Member
08-22-2003
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 10:03 am
Also, when he slammed the airline tickets back down on the counter and sarcastically told the ticket agent that she had made them lose the race. That wasn't very nice! They did act the ugly Americans!
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 10:12 am
Well now I'm embarrassed. How did I ever forget all of that stuff! Amended to say, at least they were nice to the locals (and about the locals) when they weren't under a lot of pressure (which isn't great but it is more than can be said for some of the other teams).
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Gen
Member
08-22-2003
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 10:44 am
Don't be embarrassed, Jimmer. In many ways, they were nicer than Kendra. I think they must like kids, because they seemed to really be nice to them.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 11:07 am
Thanks Gen! I saw them that way as well (not to ignore the other obvious problems they displayed).
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