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Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 1:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't know what was my favorite part of tonight's show, watching Gus and Hera calmly drive through Hungary, enjoying the sights, and relishing the experience they've been given...or seeing Jonathan and Victoria get kicked out of that cab. :-) Seriously,is nothing ever that man's fault?

Ar_jammer
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11-17-2004

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 6:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
All I can say is… WHAT?!?!?!?
Never expected a 2 parter for TAR. This ever happened before?
Okay well on to the links.

Needless to say, lots of links for Checkpoint Charlie.
http://www.dailysoft.com/berlinwall/history/checkpoint-charlie.htm
Link that is advertises a book about it. (no recommendation here)
http://www.internationalthrillers.com/secrets/ccharlie.php
And a site with images from the Checkpoint Charlie, Berlin Wall, etc.
Lot of good shots.
http://www.cs.utah.edu/~hatch/berlin_wall.html

Olympic Stadium Berlin
1945 picture
http://digitallibrary.smu.edu/cul/gir/ww2/mcsc/germany/pages/mcs124g.htm
More recent pictures
http://www.sportsvenue-technology.com/projects/berlin/
Very cool 360 panorama site
www.merzhase.de/panorama/
Okay this is probably the best. Many pictures circa 1936. A Teacher’s Guide to the Holocaust.
http://fcit.coedu.usf.edu/holocaust/GALLFR2/FOLST18.htm

The hot rocket bungee jumping… tough to find anything interesting. Just a reference in German
http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-kurier/archiv/.bin/dump.fcgi/1997/0515/lokales/0026/
Finally found a site.
For those of you interested in the types of Bungee Jumping…
http://www.bungeezone.com/types/
And on this page is a picture of “catapult” jumping
http://www.bungeezone.com/pics/

On to Budapest, Hungary
A map from the Texas archives, lots there
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/hungary_rel_94.jpg
have to include the CIA world factbook map and reference (I don’t know why)
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/hu.html
And the worldatlas.com refererence. Cool site.
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe/hu.htm

Nice Budapest site with a tour, history, hotels, map, picture gallery…
http://www.fsz.bme.hu/hungary/budapest/budapest.html

Thought I would look for a link to Malev air… I know one team who will never fly them again. J
http://www.malev.com/bp/eng/index.asp

And the trabbants… what can you say.
Offical site… well. It looks like a personal site, need to click some of the links. There are many pictures. But again, someone will have to translate for me.
http://www.trabbant.de.vu/
Just a picture someone took.
http://www.springhill.f9.co.uk/WEAwalks/040115/m4115012.jpg
and one more
http://www.nmpft.org.uk/auslander_foreigners/gallery/Sbeck50.html

Eger, Hungary
You can see Eger to the east on this map from WorldAtlas…not a short trip for those trabbants.
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe/lgcolor/hucolor.htm
The city has an online guide. Very nice site.
http://www.egeronline.com/index.php?lang=en

Eger Castle
http://www.div.iif.hu/en/egervar.htm
http://www.div.iif.hu/en/kiallitasok.htm
Site with a picture of the castle and a little history half way down the page… one of the cannons is visible.
http://www.visitors.hu/09_03_en.html
More Eger history and picture/history of the castle.
http://traveltohungary.com/indexload.cgi?/english/hungary/eger.htm
One more site. Eger is a beautiful place. Amazing…
http://www.tompgalvin.com/places/hu/eger.htm


Eger Train Station
Tried to find a picture of the station… but I found a train schedule!
http://www.diamond-congress.hu/ehrs/ghtml/timetable.html
From the same site there is a map of Eger, can’t find the castle but the rail station is marked.
http://www.diamond-congress.hu/ehrs/ghtml/map_of_eger.htm
but no pictures of the train station…

Back to Budapest and the Net Klub Internet Café.
You would think that a place with that name would have a presence on the web… I couldn’t find one.
Here is a list of cyber cafes in Budapest.
http://www.world66.com/europe/hungary/budapest/cybercafes

Well, I am done for the first part of the 2-part episode.
Enjoy.


Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 6:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I loved watching Jonathan badger Gus about taking his seats and Gus calling him a 'LITTLE B@st@rd' LOL

Gus said it so calmly. I love Gus and I love his narration of the sites

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 6:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
BTW, the title for the episode in 2 weeks is called "One of you, I'm gonna break in half". So likely next week is a clip show, or perhaps they finish the leg currently in progress next week and then the 2nd half of the ep is a recap. We'll find out next week I guess.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 9:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My least favorite part...watching Jonathan run around with his shirt off (funny thing is watching Bolo with his shirt off didn't bother me a bit...that man has a nice chest!).

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Do we think someone yields F/K?

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jon runs some celebrity spa out in California. He went on the show to generate publicity for himself and his business. I'm not surprised in the least that he knows how to kiss butt when needed. That doesn't make him a nice person!!!

I actually liked the "To Be Continued" part. I wouldn't want them to over use it, but it came as a surprise and therefore was appreciated. I think in the past they've been forced to edit out some good stuff for the sake of time. This time they didn't. The Bolo/Lori getting stuck was quite the drama and worth it.

I love those cars. Does anyone have any clue which gear is which when the gear shift is on the steering column? I sure don't. LOL!!! I had a friend who drove a van with the gear shift up there once. That looked tough!! I would have asked that guy who stopped to help on the highway the location of each gear. (Maybe they did.)

I am decent with a normal stick. Do you suppose the cars died due to being in a low gear for too long?

Did anyone else actually find Lori and Bolo likable now? I sure did. They seemed to have calmed down A LOT and are working well as a team. Less yelling and more teamwork seems to have helped them.

And yes, I loved Hera and Gus beating J/V to the cafe. Jon is a pretty awful guy. I think it was nastier to see him go back and yell at that travel agent for "making him lose" than his harrasing of Hera and Gus. At least hassling Hera and Gus could be at least interpreted as trash talk and thus possibly (probably not) psyching out the competition. But yelling at some airport worker just to try to make her feel bad? So lame!!!

He is definitely a hollywood type. He kisses up to power (the cops) and treats the little people (flight booker)like dirt.

Brad_ups_man
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07-13-2004

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 10:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I gotta tell you, this guy Jonathan makes last season's Colin look like laughing boy. He can say he's playing up to the camera all he wants. I disagree. I think he's FORGETTING that cameras are around. I was surprised at how nice of a chest he has though and a strong back, <nd> Kudos to the cabby that threw him out. I agree with many of you that this year's teams have very few likable people. I like Gus and Hera and Chris and John. Chris and John are a nice couple and they get along very well. Gus and Hera are no-nonsense and seem like very focused people. The rest leave alot to be desired.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
While watching the cab scene, I turned to konashark and said "if I was that cab driver...." and lo & behold !!!!

Hubby has been in Hungry and said "they are the nicest people" (after the cops didn't cite or fine J&V, but agreed to help them). But even the nicest person in the world could not have suffered the screaming of either J or V in that cab. Being in a hurry for a race is not any reason for breaking the traffic laws. Now, show me a woman giving birth or a severed limb, then running red lights to get to an ER, that might be worth it.

'squeek'

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I noticed in the preview of Fred "going off" that they were all standing in what looked like a railroad roundhouse. The camera panned all around and L&B were not seen. I have no idea what this means, just throwing it out there for speculation purposes.

Gen
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08-22-2003

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Gina, you asked about gear position on cars with the gear shift on the steering column. If you picture a "H" on it's side, neutral would be the middle cross bar. Reverse would be moving the shift lever toward you and up (left top leg of the "H". First gear (low) would be moving the lever toward you and down. Second gear would be moving the lever away from you and up (right top leg of the "H". And third gear (high) would be moving the lever away from you and down. There is no 4th gear. It really isn't as hard as they made it look. Certainly driving in low gear would not do the engine and transmission any good. I don't know what the long term consequences would be.

I, too, am liking Gus and Hera and Kris and Jon. The sooner Jonathan and Victoria are gone the better. Cheers for the cab driver that threw them out of his cab! And Happymom, I hope several teams "yield" Freddy and Kendra. I don't know if there can only be one yield at a time, but it would be nice if several couples could do it.

Gina8642
Member

06-01-2001

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL - I've never driven a three gear car before. Other than that, it sounds like a standard design put on it's side on the steering column. They should be able to figure it out if they drive stick. Except I might put it into reverse instead of third. LOL@@

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Are we in agreement that the reason this episode is a two-parter is because there will be lots of drama next week between Jonathan and Victoria? It looked to me like she was sitting a table in a nice restaurant when she was telling him to get away from her. I'm assuming that is the pit stop, and the producers decided to show us the drama at the pit stop since we've had to watch these two from the beginning.

P.S. Bolo and Lori are also starting to rub off on me. I'm finding I'm liking them a little bit more every week.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Gina, yes, I found Lori and Bolo likeable last night and at least they seem to like EACH OTHER more than my less favorite couples..

LOL.. I'm hoping the result of Jonathan's trash talk is that Gus will someday Yield them.. but of course JOnathan's pushing into the cafe doesn't bode well for anyone being ahead of them.

And Happymom, I think you just may have figured out why Freddy was so upset with all of them in the previews.. though I thought when the Yield was used that the team who used it had to sign something? Still sounds like that may be it.

I noticed the absence of L/B as well, Hobbs..

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think that if they knew they were allowed to COMBINE their yields to slow a team down by multiple half-hours....they would all team up and get Jon/Vic out. Many teams don't like those two, and I could see F/K, A/H, and K/J yielding them.

At the same time, I'm not sure I'd waste a yield on some collective plan, when it COULD serve me better further on in the race.


Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 12:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think that the scene with Victoria telling Jonathan to leave her alone is likely a roadblock (remember last season's caviar fest?).

I think when a team yields another, the yieldee knows who the yielder is. Didn't Chip and Kim have to put their pix next to "Yielded by..." when they yielded Colin and Christy last season?

At this point in the game, I'm less all about who I like and more about who I dislike *least*! <grin> But I think I'll jump on the Gus/Hera and Kris/Jon bandwagon, too. I also have noticed how Lori and Bolo have been a lot more "likeable" lately. She obviously looked upset they missed the last train, but didn't really pull a freakout on the cams.

Jonathan is just getting more and more <self-modded>. The constant "you took our seats" baloney with Gus, the slamming of the tickets down at the airport, the snide comments he makes to Victoria. I'm sorry, but I don't know how he can claim "editing". He DID those things. The camera caught him. <sigh> (Very unlikeable. Very much ruins my enjoyment of this season. <bigger sigh>)

Hereiam
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03-29-2002

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think that if Jonathan had got into Hera's face about the tickets Gus would have pounded him... So I give him a little credit for knowing not to go there. Although it might have been fun to see.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 1:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL, Hereiam, oh yeah, I think Gus would have gone way off had he done that ...

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 1:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the yield can be used once per leg. So, once a team puts up the pic of the team they are yielding, that's the only yield that leg. And yes, the yielder puts up their own picture too so the yieldee knows who the yielder was.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 1:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, we knew the yield rules from last year - maybe they changed them this year? So maybe the yielded team doesn't know who did it (and can't extract revenge - a reason for NOT using it too early in the race - could come back to bite you in the arse).

'squeek'

PS - also sad to see L&B are gone (too late in this leg for any traveling equalizer) unless it's another non-elimination leg (probably too soon after the first one).

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 2:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hereiam, Jonathan didn't get into Hera's face because in his world no woman could be smart enough to "steal" his seats. Only a man could do that.

I don't think the gears on those cars were the simple "three on the tree" that Gen described. There was a sticker on the dash that showed a double H pattern. I stopped my tape, but it wasn't clear enough to see.

Did anyone notice how nice L&B's replacement car was? It was like new! I guess the producers were only prepared for 2 breakdowns.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 2:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Jonathan didn't get into Hera's face because he knows she isn't a woman who would stand for that kinda crap. Guys who treat women like J treats V usually know who they can push around... and Hera doesn't strike me as someone who would take J's abusive language passively.

Gus wouldn't have to pound Jon for getting in Hera's face. Gus would have to pull Hera off him!!!

Ar_jammer
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11-17-2004

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 3:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
A couple more very nice links.

Budapest.
http://www.budapest360.hu

Eger.
http://www.eurotravelling.net/hungary/eger/eger_gallery.htm




Uhoh
Member

07-23-2002

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 5:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i feel so old and i'm only 54 :P

my first two cars were standards with the gear-shift on the column. floor-shifts were reserved for sports cars :-)

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 5:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I know all about column gear shifts! I had one break off in my hand with the car in first gear! After I crawled into a repair shop, the guy told me it took about 10,000 pounds of pressure to break one. So you all better always be NICE to me!!