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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 12:42 pm
For everyone blaming the producers for picking some of these people, I know that these shows do interviews and auditions but short of someone answering YES to the question “Do you beat your spouse?”, how would the producers know how a given couple will behave in the stressful situations that are common to a competition like this? People who are charming and pleasant under most conditions can turn very ugly in highly competitive pressure situations. Look how some people behave when they are playing golf, hockey, baseball, etc. Some of us have seen friends and colleagues who are generally reasonable, pleasant people, completely lose their temper and self control at times during "fun" competitions. I’m not saying this is a good thing – simply that it is hard for the producers to predict how these people will behave. By the way, I’m still enjoying the show, but I don’t tend to get as intense about it as some fans seem to.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 2:21 pm
People who are charming and pleasant under most conditions can turn very ugly in highly competitive pressure situations. That's a good point, Jimmer. During BB5, Arnold Shapiro said the exact same thing about BB contestents. So, then the question would be, are the producers surprised at how intense some of these people turned out being? Re: Bunching: I don't mind the concept of bunching, but this season seems to have more than in the past. Past seasons had more variety in terms of challenges and bunching spots than this one does.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 2:41 pm
I wouldnt consider myself intense about the show but I just dont have any couple that I can really root for. Last season charla and darla and Chip and Kim were fun to watch and I enjoyed their relationships with each other. I loved Chip and Kim's enthusiasm for every place and ritual they experienced. Charla and Darla were just a trip to watch, they were gutsy and loyal to each other. I am just not seeing it this year. With the exception of the wrestlers, most of these people are either whining at each other or yelling at each other. They just arent fun to watch. They dont have much sense of appreciation except for at the Hungarian leg of the journey.
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Bob2112
Member
06-12-2002
| Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 3:33 pm
Charla and Darla? I thought their names were Mirna and Schmirna.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 4:45 pm
lol, maybe it was, What were their names? I never remember names from one season to the next. I liked them though.
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 4:49 pm
Charla and Mirna
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Ar_jammer
Member
11-17-2004
| Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 6:29 pm
Episode 8 Links. Delayed but not forgotten. Budafok, Hungary Considered district 22 of Budapest http://flagspot.net/flags/hu-bp-22.html Famous for wine tradition http://www.budapestinfo.hu/en/profinfo/csoportoknak.html#budafok Winery with largest wine flask http://www.promontorbor.hu/old/index.htm (home page) http://www.promontorbor.hu/old/index1e.htm click on the cellars link and scroll the middle area to find the flask. A thermal engineering conference provides us with a nice simple map For the location of Budafok in relation to Budapest. http://www.dsy.hu/thermo/map2.htm On to Corsica. Thanks to worldatlas, you can see Ajaccio and Calvi on this map. http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe/corsica.htm This link has a map and several very nice pictures. http://alizeetoujours.homestead.com/map.html Nice site. Corsica-online. http://www.corsica-online.com/scripts/en/ Ajaccio on this site. http://www.corsica-online.com/geographie/en/182.asp Another nice site. Visit-corsica. http://www.visit-corsica.com/grand_public/ Napoleon Bonaparte’s house/museum http://www.napoleonguide.com/ajaccio.htm This site has everything you ever wanted to know about this man. A little history on the man. http://www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/bios/b2napoleonb_nbv.htm The lead-booted style diving suits don’t show up much on the web. But here is a link to a fellow who did it in the Loch Ness. Picture too. http://www.smilepop.com/index.cfm?action=smile_news_story&smile_news_id=25445 Camp Rafalli Le Camp Raffalli http://www.2rep.com/01pg_stgnh/01Regiment/pages/reg_camp_raffalli.html Calvi Corsica Not sure but this could be where they did the climbing http://www.corsica.net/corsica/it/regcalv/calvi/ A citadel map and description http://www.welcometocorsica.com/Balagne/Calvi/calvi3.uk.html Calvi history http://www.welcometocorsica.com/Balagne/Calvi/index.uk.html Pictures of Corsica.. some from citadel http://www.photos-voyages.com/corse/corsica03.htm More Corsica outdoor pursuits site http://www.corsica-isula.com/mountains.htm A zodiac boat advertisement http://english.louerzodiac.com/escale34/for__sale__inflatable__boats__.html The pit stop. Sure looks like this could be it http://www.hotelup.com/sch2/eng_0013.htm Well, that’s it. Hope you find something interesting.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 7:43 pm
Thx Ar, very cool!!!!
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 8:24 pm
That must be a lot of work finding all of those links. It's much appreciated! 
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 12:18 pm
I don think anyone is that intense about this show. I think some of us are just reflecting on what appealed to us about this show in the first place and how it's changed. Obviously there is no perfect cast to please everyone. But one of the points that appealed to me about this show from the beginning was watching 'average Joes & Janes' getting to travel to places most of us will never see. Once they switched their casting methods to former reality contestants and models and a Playboy bunny with her need-to-be-famous husband, the show lost alot of it's original feel. We've seen so few snippets of people this season being excited or in awe about where they are or their surroundings and then when we have seen it, in each case those reactions have been from the 'average Joes & Janes', not from the wannebes. I'm just hoping the producers take a step back and think about that. It's part of what made the show so enjoyable to begin with - at least for myself. Just my
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Ar_jammer
Member
11-17-2004
| Monday, January 17, 2005 - 9:26 am
Kappy, this happened to Big Brother in a similar fashion I believe. And I am no longer thrilled to watch that show. But TAR has more to offer in my opinion. Hopefully it will continue to be attractive for the challenges and places they go. And the contestants don't end up making me change the channel.
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Chieko
Member
11-20-2003
| Monday, January 17, 2005 - 10:13 am
What Kappy said. I really like just ordinary people.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Monday, January 17, 2005 - 10:55 am
Kappy, I’ve always enjoyed AR (and I’ve watched it from the beginning) and I’m still enjoying it. So I went back to the old CBS web sites for the previous seasons in an attempt to “prove you wrong”. Unfortunately, all I succeeded in doing was convincing myself that you are right. I had forgotten many of the wonderful contestants on the Amazing Race from Seasons 1 – 4. While I’m still enjoying this season, it doesn’t compare well with past years.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, January 17, 2005 - 1:08 pm
Last season was the first time it seemed obvious that "characters" were cast. Although I'm not sure I'd consider Charla and Mirna "characters," they were cast for a specific reason. (Actually, I'm glad they did cast those two!) In past seasons, the "normal" folks outnumbered the wannabe's by quite a lot. The opposite seems to be true this season. I still enjoy watching the SHOW, but I don't enjoy watching the PEOPLE race around. It's pretty sad if you really only like one couple at this stage in the game (Kris/Jon), although I think Lori and Bolo have proven my original impression of them wrong.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Monday, January 17, 2005 - 1:59 pm
In thinking further about it, oddly enough Lori and Bolo have turned out to be pretty "normal" and likable considering why they were cast. So the main "characters" that they cast have worked out. I like them as well, though of course my favorites are Kris and Jon. The rest are far behind, but I'm not sure that they were deliberately cast for any truly special characteristics? It may simply be bad luck that it turned out this way.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, January 17, 2005 - 5:47 pm
I think Lori and Bolo started out with that "wrestler" mentality. But then they got into the mechanics of the game, and that's overridden their "characters". I think the models were cast as just that... And Jonathan and Victoria were cast (him being cast to be a definite "character" although I suspect what he wanted and what he's getting are two different things! <grin>). And there were other "normal" folks early on this season, but they dropped like flies. The two guys from NY, and the two girls... I figured they wouldn't last. And the two sisters (cousins?) from Utah... they had potential, only they had really rotten luck with that hay roll. Unfortunately, all of the least likeable folks seem to be the ones who can navigate through foreign countries and manage to complete tasks relatively quickly. One other thing I've notice this season... most of 'em seem to finish pretty close to the same time. This could be a result of the bunching up, but I still think the bunching up is a result of their timing being so close.
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