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Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
To work so hard and for so long..............so sad.

Crossfire
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08-07-2001

Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 8:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Amazing huh? Those suckers are heavy too. No wonder her drawers were falling off, by 60 or so, I imagine you start letting things slip a bit. :-)

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 8:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, kids, I hurried to get home in time for the show. Now I need to go take care of a few things so I can get to bed. See you next week! :-)

Muse
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08-09-2001

Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 9:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lena should be really proud of herself. She worked so hard and still wasn't ready to give up. And even though she was upset, she handled the stress well. I suspect that she did miss a clue somewhere, but it is possible that she just had terrible luck. Anyway, I was sad to see them go.

I kind of want to dislike Don for trying to get the Ikea woman to give him the answer (or let him guess until he got it, at least), but I don't. I do feel that older people have a disadvantage. They shouldn't have any special treatment because of it (so I was glad the woman politely refused to do it), but I'm sympathetic. Don and MJ looked exhausted. I like that MJ got him back on task when he pulled that stunt, though. Don is okay, but I really like her.

I thought that Lori and Bolo might use the yield on Don and MJ. I think that people are treating it like last season -- feeling like it's kind of unfair, and trying to avoid using it. Lori and Bolo probably figured they could beat out the older folks (and possibly Kristy/Lena) anyway, but it was a risk.

I won't comment on Jonathan much since there's not much to say. I hope I never see or hear about him again after this show.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 11:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm really disappointed that Lena and Kristy were eliminated. First I was feeling bad that MJ & Don were so far behind and boy, how things changed! Actually, I was feeling bad for Hera and Gus when they couldn't find the Icehouse and look how they finished! I sure wish it had been Jonathan and Victoria. That man treats her terribly. I don't enjoy watching them in the least bit. It makes me cringe to see how he treats her.

I really like Kris and Jon. They should have gotten first and the prize since they did so well the whole way and it was just a matter of getting to the mat first. Too bad it worked out that way.

There's a couple of teams I barely notice they're there. I wouldn't mind if they were elminated at this point since I don't feel very invested in them. I certainly could see several teams I'd have rather seen gone than Lena and Kristy. :-(

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 2:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
WOW 8 hrs looking in the hay!! What I hated about this comp was the women had the disadvantage. Of course Victoria was the only woman other than Lena who was forced to do it.

I noticed that Lena was so tired she wasnt watching the others. Everyone found their clue in the very centre of the bale and you could see the bales COMPLETELY unrolled...but instead She kept stopping and trying to pull the hay apart every couple of feet. SIGH!! I really dislike the random competitions as that is not a TRUE race.

I felt really bad for the old folks. They really seem out of shape and in poor health. The man was going a sickly shade of grayblue in the face a few times. I hope that they have to pass a physical before they are accepted onto the show. There is a guy in his 60s here in town who owns a gym, I tell ya he could out pushup any of the guys on the other teams this season. Hopefully one of these seasons the producers will cast athletic older people...I just feel so badly for the older people who dont have any chance of winning this game. We all know that the finishline is a full on footrace so the older folks DONT HAVE A CHANCE...and that isnt fair really.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 6:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
During the taxi ride it looked to me like Jonathan was going to hit Victoria with his arm and she shied away. I hope he holds back when no one is watching too. Jonathan would probably say it was editing. Editing can leave stuff out, not add something.

Ar_jammer
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11-17-2004

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 7:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Okay. Episode 3 links. Personally, this was not all that exciting an episode. And needless to say I was surprised at who was eliminated. So on to the links.

Nice Stockholm web site. There is an excellent map here when you click
On the Stockholm map link on the left. There is no direct link provided.
http://www.destination-stockholm.com/
Once the map is displayed, click on the Central Stockholm white rectangle in the center. This
shows more detail.

Nordic Sea Hotel. – the hotel they received the clue to go slide the shot glasses. Lots of links for this place.
http://www.nordichotels.se/doc.open.asp?DocID=52&StructID=2
The hotel is on the second map above at about 10 o’clock from the center. Right below a red dot. This link is from the map. Couldn’t find the Chapman ship on this map.
http://www.destination-stockholm.com/framesmaster.htm?http://www.destination-stockholm.com/hotels/nordicsea.htm

A pdf for the ice bar
http://www.nordichotels.se/objects/318.main.pdf
short article about the ice bar
http://www.visit-sweden.com/gb/article.asp?show=a&articleID=5334
There is a link to an interactive map on the link above.
Nice page about the ice bar.
http://www.traveladventures.org/continents/europe/icebar.shtml
another one…
http://europeforvisitors.com/europe/countries/sweden/stockholm-ice-bar.htm
there are many links to this place.

Ikea. This company has many stores.
www.ikea.com
Not much luck finding a link for just the largest store…
Here is an ikea company timeline (I know… boring)
http://perth.ikea.com.au/Template3.asp?page_id=76007300091001&se_id=2&site_id=30009
The IKEA Group corporate site
http://www.ikea-group.ikea.com/corporate/index.html
enough of this…

On to Haggvik
Simple map:
http://www.fallingrain.com/world/SW/26/Haggvik.html
This is an interesting travel site. Nice coordinate maps
http://www.traveljournals.net/explore/sweden/map/m3421248/haggvik.html
that’s about it for Haggvik.. google only had 4 pages of stuff.

Finally, the Chapman ship.
http://www.mightyseas.co.uk/marhist/whitehaven/wsbc/dunboyne.htm
Lots of photos
http://www.mightyseas.co.uk/marhist/whitehaven/wsbc/dunboyne_photos.htm
History
http://www.astro.uu.se/~hoefner/sail/ship_chap.html
It is actually a hotel
http://www.aphotograph.net/stockholm/ppages/ppage12.html
http://www.hostelz.com/display.php/17532+STF-HI+Youth+Hostel+af+Chapman+&+Skeppsholmen

The ship is located on the island of Skeppsholmen in Stockholm
http://www.photoguide.to/stockholm/skeppsholmen.html
http://www.stockholmsbriggen.se/en/skeppsholmen/
More pictures
http://www.asimov.de/gallery_Sweden_Stockholm_Skeppsholmen.html
The island is just to the right of the center island in this map…repeated from above.
http://www.destination-stockholm.com/framesmaster.htm?http://www.destination-stockholm.com/hotels/nordicsea.htm

Course mapquest works well too

Well that’s it for this episode.
Already looking forward to the next one.



Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 9:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought the same thing about Lena unrolling the bales...she was almost trying too hard to find the clue when the other contestants pretty much found it by simply unrolling - none of them "sorted" through the hay (one of them even told her that it was easy to see once it was unrolled).

Jonathan is scary and Victoria seems so used to it that she doesn't even react. Weird dynamics in that relationship...hope they don't procreate.

I think Don and MH are in good shape for their age - but he is (I think) 69 and no matter what kind of shape you are in you are going to get tired when doing physically exhausting things. The man had counted about 8,000 things (depending on how many times they counted them - if you've ever done inventory or worked retail you know how exhausting being on your feet that long can be), bicycled, pushed hay bales and then bicycled again - it was a rather physically demanding day on almost no sleep (I doubt sleeping outside on a park bench is really great on your bones). Both he and MJ made it up the cliff so they aren't in too bad of shape.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 9:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
On the early show, Lena mentioned that she had to start pulling apart the bales after it rained because it was too heavy to push them once they got wet.

I believe she said she thought they weight at least 200 pounds dry, and even more wet.

Poor dear, she did a great job, tho!

Crossfire
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08-07-2001

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hmm, I wonder if those were special made for the show. I was curious about the weight of those things, and went searching last night to learn that the new big round ones (I'm old enough to remember seeing fields littered with the smaller rectangles) weigh in at between 1100 and 1600 pounds a piece.

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Agreed Crossfire--I bucked a lot of bails of hay when younger--they went about 90 pounds--and were rectangle and MUCH smaller. The rolled larger ones are very heavy--and vary in size--that is why they vary so much in weight.

I was extremely impressed with her not giving up. 270 bails with 27 having clues--10% of the bails.

Bbfanatic
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 12:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didnt mind the girls getting booted. They were one of those teams that had not really registered on my like/dislike list. I wont even notice they are gone. I didnt feel bad for Lena. It is part of the game.

Jonathon/Victoria are my faves. I rooted on Chip/Kim last round. Enough of the sweet, lovey-dovey stuff. I rooting on the loud, obnoxious team. "If" Johnathon is as bad as he is edited to be, so be it. Victoria is in a position many women that are in physical and/or mentally abusive relationships would love to be in. "Money, No children, A job, and probably even her own car" She could get up and leave. But, there is a big chance this is just an act. If it isnt, she may leave after she watches the show. If not, do I care? No. She is a big girl. It would be hard to feel sorry for her at that point.

As for Don trying to get out the the IKEA stuff. More power to him if it had worked. He got a senior citizen discount in one of the other episodes. Charla used her size for help in the last TAR. I thought it was smart.

Lori and Bolo are just near the bottom of my list. I was hoping they would take longer getting the desk put together so I could see him explode a few more times. Man, he sweats. I was rooting on Don & MJ.

All in all, it was a fun episode. They are having to work hard for that million bucks. I am lov'n it.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Cross, I believe it somewhat depends on how dry they are, moisture is what gives them weight. The more recently baled they are, the more moisture, and the more weight. But I gathered from the way she said it on the Early Show, she was just guessing at the weight. She may be as bad at guessing weight as I am. :-)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I really enjoy AR, but I find roadblocks that involve a lot of chance to be extremely frustrating to watch.

I'm also a little frustrated that they cast teams that IMO obviously ultimately have no chance in winning but get through the early episodes largely by luck. It's good to cast a wide spectrum of different relationships and individuals, but I think they should cast people that at least have a chance of winning in the long run.

Edited to add: I agree that those were gutsy comments about Victoria.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wow BBfanatic. Ballsy comments regarding Jonathon and Victoria.


hiding!

I'm just going to hide for a bit, until everyone is finished responding to your comments/opinions.

Bbfanatic
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 12:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jimmer- I agree with you about casting teams who have no chance of winning. I know there has to be enough people out there that are competitive, both physically and mentally, to cast.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Iffin they casted only younger, more competitive physically and mentally teams... then we'd be b*tching that they don't have any older competitive physically and mentally teams.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 1:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't think that Chip and Kim last year would be considered one of the more fit teams...and they still won. It would be horribly boring if they were all the same...look at how we complain on BB and Survivor when all the older/less attractive people get voted out first!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 1:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh I fully agree with diversity among teams. I just want all of the teams to be competitive. The tasks seem to get progressively more difficult as the race progresses and we all know that a team like Don and Mary Jean have a very slim chance of winning the entire race. This is not a knock against Don and Mary Jean who are trying really hard. I love to see older teams but I want to see older teams that have the toughness to pull it out at the end.

Weinermr
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08-18-2001

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Perhaps Jack LaLanne and his wife would like to apply for TAR 7 or 8.

Hippyt
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06-15-2001

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 2:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    


Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 2:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What a great idea Weinermr! 3 different diversities. Jack & his wife are old, short & happily married. Being vegetarians might be a problem in a food challenge.

Weinermr
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08-18-2001

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They can just juice everything, and voila, problem solved.

Bbfanatic
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 2:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I dont necessarily mean they need to all be athletes or professors. I think Chip/Kim were fit. At least as to what is right for the game. They had problems with some decisions but were able to work through them. They seem like wonderful, nice people to boot. There are not too many Chip/kims on reality?? tv.
I cant remember the two girls names who were booted. Not the ones this week. I just remember thinking "what a waste of a team". They just seemed lost in outer space. I would rather have a team I think will go far be booted early than have a team I am thinking "no way" and then my thoughts prove true. I know it probably doesnt make any sense. Oh well, I know what I am trying to say.:-)

I wasnt trying to be ballsy or hard core with my statements about Victoria. I just was being honest. I was just trying to point out the difference between Victorias situation and someone who may not have a car, any money, children, and no job. I was just saying she has some things on her side if she needs to make a break. I get the feeling it isnt what it seems. I dont know why. Hopefully I am right.