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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 7:19 am
I've seen lots of different opinions when team cousins come up. Phil has called the viewers' attention since day one to watch out for this team. Boy, they deserve the spot light, too. When Phil talked about them in that last EMS to promote TAR V, team Little Person was how CBS refered to them. This team was mentioned in the same breath with the older "Internet Dating couple", Team Bowling Moms, Team married with children(AA)... I sorta thought it meant that these are the teams with not so much abilities shame on me! Phil did praise them, but I thought it was a gimmick to get viewingship. But they are surprising me now! You might want to critique Charla's using her shortness as an advantage. But which team pass or present does not do something in that direction? You might want to turn away when Mirna started whinning and complaining, but that might be her way of dealing with things that bother her. Comes to mind the theory that, the patients who cry, maon or complain about thier Pain usually recover sooner. There's a side of Mirna I like very much. Remember how she troted all the way to the stage for the Tango guy? After they completed the mission, she actually danced a few steps with the guy... In the first epi, after they got the right number for info, Mirna also wanted to try a few hands at Black Jack! Whatever position this team ended up with, whatever opinons we come up with, we can safely say that they would be the ones with the most fun out of this experience.
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Sheilaree
Member
07-19-2002
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 7:47 am
I like Charla and Mirma, and the bowling Moms
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Djgirl
Member
07-17-2002
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 10:42 am
I'm not a fan simply because I'm tired of hearing Charla state how independent she is and then turn around and do something like she did in the airport last night - "I need doctoro"... that's just awful. I'll give them credit for using it to their advantage, but I don't have to like them for it.
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Penilane
Member
07-20-2004
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 10:51 am
Good point DJ. It did work to their advantage, and most teams will do whatever they can to make it easier for themselves. But, I get annoyed at how they are always complaining about none of the other teams helping them, especially when they do things like they did last night.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 11:02 am
I find Mirna and Charla very entertaining. I give them all the credit in the world for their incredible success and determination and sometimes humour. They do whine a lot though, they have awful big chips on their shoulders, and they have a funny perspective on the other teams.
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Kimmykm
Member
08-26-2003
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 11:34 am
Funny at all the different opinions over these 2. I am absolutely and totally cheering for this team. I also liked the military dad and daughter (sad to see them go) and continue to like the bowling moms. I find nothing wrong with Charla using the doctor excuse just as I don't fault the handsome, charming young fellow who asked so sweetly to be put at the top of the list. The pretty young airport agent agreed. Thinking that after Charla feigned the need for a doctor that same agent would have put Charla at the top of the standby list. Nope, the good looking fellow won out as she called his team first. Charla and cousin were called next. Everybody has the right to use their strengths to get them farther in the game. Is it so bad that Charla is using her height weakness to get ahead? Absolutely. I admire her for the courage to even attempt this journey of a lifetime.
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Hippyt
Member
06-15-2001
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 11:35 am
You hit it right on,Dj. They aren't going to win,karma is gonna get them. The pizza brothers are horrible. Yelling names out of a car is so childish. I hope they go soon.
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Essence
Member
01-12-2002
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 1:49 pm
quote:Is it so bad that Charla is using her height weakness to get ahead?
No that's not the bad part. I say use what you have in a race. I actually think it's quite strategic on her part to use that. What gets me with Charla is that one minute she wants to prove to the world that she can do anything anyone else can regardless of her height disadvantage, and the next minute she's using that same disadvantage to get pity and a leg up on everone else. In my opinion, that tactic negates the point she is trying to prove. If she wants to play the "poor little me" card that's fine, but don't turn around and tell the cameras that I need to prove that my height doesn't hinder me, especially when in parts of the race it does (and will). For example, last night she had to do the paragliding because she couldn't ride the bike (she said this to Mirna after they read the clue). They probably would have chosen to do paragliding anyway, but the other teams had the choice. She didn't.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 2:04 pm
I am cheering for this team too, even though I don't understand how Charla can promote herself using this double standard. I'm actually cheering for Mirna. Charla can proclaim herself as independent as much as she wants, but it is Mirna who is taking up the slack for Charla. I'm not saying that Charla isn't doing her part, I'm just saying that Mirna has to always drive or do the physical challenges that Charla can't. If it wasn't for Mirna being willing to take on the extra responsibilities, Charla would NOT be able to compete!!
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Msunderstood
Member
07-15-2004
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 2:18 pm
In her defense, Charla says she can do anything, but she never said how. There are 2 seperate arguements here: 1) Can Charla compete as everyone else does? yes--some other teams might have chosen the paraglide because they don't know how to ride a bike--being able to do one of the roadblocks is the only rule. 2) Can Charla use her charm as a "little person" to gain an advantage? Yes, just like the gay boys from the one year used their charm to nice their way into situations. One is a concept of success, the other is a strategical decesion. Judge them seperately if you want to judge them at all.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 2:21 pm
I agree with Essence. I was also getting irritated that they were speaking English with Spanish accents the WHOLE TIME and for no good reason. Even when they talked to each other, it was a fake Spanish (or, even worse, putting an /o/ at the end of words). If you can't speak a foreign language, fine. Just don't make a grotesque parody of it. It makes you look terrible. Personally, if they had done to me what they did to the brothers, I'm not sure I wouldn't have yelled the same thing. They'll get their bad behavior back, I hope, ten times over. Maybe they really WILL need a "doctoro" and nobody will help them because of the shenanigans they have pulled. It'd be poetic.
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Lycanthrope
Member
09-19-2002
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 2:33 pm
They've made more than one team mad with the way they're playing. At first, I thought it was the other teams not wanting to align with them because they viewed Charla as weak. But with multiple teams having a distinct dislike for them, I think it probably has more to do with them, specifically Mirna. On a different subject, does Mirna really think she has a shot with Phil? Does she really think those back-rubbing hugs are gonna get her a date? The after show reunion should be interesting.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 5:16 pm
I want to cheer for this team, cause I admire Charla's guts. Though I agree the double standard thing bugs me. Mirna bugs me for a few reasons. For one, she's always yelling at Charla to "run, c'mon, faster," etc. When its obvious Charla is running as fast as she can. Sometimes the tone of her voice comes across to me like she is coaxing a reluctant puppy to run faster. I find that patronizing and offensive. True, maybe she really doesn't see Charla in this light, and its only my perception. I am willing to give it a benefit of the doubt. I actually think Charla would end up clocking her one if she felt she was being patronizing. I'm also a bit annoyed with the "does my hair look ok, every time we see Phil I'm such a mess," etc. Yuck is all I can say to that. Personally, I think when it comes to needing all out guts and determination to complete a task, Charla ends up taking up the slack for Mirna. Remember her hoisting that slab of meat when all Mirna could do is whine about it?
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 5:17 pm
I really admire Charla. Last year I watched a show filmed at the annual convention of little people. They interviewed a pretty teenage girl who talked about two experiences she had working in a retail store. She said a boy came in, took one look at her, and starting laughing so hard he had to sit down. Another time a man looked at her and said "God didn't make you. You're a mistake. God doesn't make mistakes." With this kind of cruelty going on, I think Charla is brave for going on the show.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 7:32 pm
Most in the past have used their looks, charm, humor, uglyness, whining, lying and anything else they had to push themselves in the race. The bowling mom's were accused of lying to Jim/Marsha. Nasty? Mmmmm Jim wanted to team up with Charla but not Marsha. Jim saw something that his daughter did not. The pizza guys were ahead of Charla at the airport and knew about the early plane. How did they get on a later plane? Crude and uncalled Language Mmmmm I don't see anything wrong with using your lack of height. No one wants to team up with them but then no one teams up with anyone for very long. They see Charla as someone who might hold them back because of her size. Kami/Karli want Chip to be a gentleman and give them the cab. Whineeeee Colin/Christi used their looks and charm to get on the plane first. Dennis/Erika did act politly with the cab and they are gone. What is considered correctness during a game that has a prize of $1 mil. ? They are giving us a story line on a show that was taped 6 months ago. I don't think Charla/Mirna will win but they are good racers despite their weakness and Phil clearly is rooting for them. I am enjoying the fact that they are giving us some normal (no Hollywood bound) people. I also think this is the best mix of contestants to date. p.s. I am just 5 foot and have to seek out help all the time in the stores when I can't reach something. If you see someone climbing into the freezer section to get something off the top shelf while cursing the 6 foot guy that designed the stores that might be me.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 7:55 pm
LOL..might be me, too, CSNog. I'm of the "vertically challenged" section of our community (just an inch or so over 5 foot), and I climb all the time! Heck, I've even had to climb when the next to top shelf in the store had an item at the back of the shelf! I enjoy C & M, could do w/o the whining at times, but I like the way they try to have fun with the challenges.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 9:06 pm
I could do without Mirna. She really grates on my nerves. I had a problem with the airport scene and asking for the doctoro. I know it's all in the game playing, but that seemed to push it a little. I agree with Essence, if you want to prove what you can do, don't make yourself act otherwise.
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Azlen
Member
08-27-2000
| Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 10:45 pm
I am still trying to figure out why in the previous episode they thought they were going to have to stick their hand in the cow's...ahem because the road block clue said it had to be someone with quick hands and feet. [sarcasm] I know that's the conclusion I would always jump to. [/sarcasm] I am never going to like a team that lies and whines. I don't care if Charla uses her height to her advantage, but lying about having to see a "doctoro" or they have to get on the boat because of an "emergencio" doesn't work for me.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 4:27 am
Their spanish leaves a lot to be desired.
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 4:55 am
Azlen, I vaguely remember in a previous season the teams had to do something involving sticking their hands up there in a horse or cow and it was disgusting. Myrna probably remembered that too.
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 5:00 am
Csnog, when the pizza guys got there, the ticket counter wasn't open yet. They talked some employee into looking on the computer and seeing if there were any seats on the early flight. Charla and Myrna came up behind them and heard the guy telling them there were seats, but they had to wait till the counter right across from him opened at 5:30 to buy the tickets. Charla and Myrna promptly scooted over to the ticket counter and were first in line ahead of the pizza guys and got the last tickets for the early flight.
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Aussiedeb
Member
07-05-2004
| Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 7:20 am
I like Mirna and Charla. What they are using as their tactics seems to be working. I am rooting for them and the bowling moms too. Some of the others are just so full of themselves but at least these two teams are having fun with the race as well. Others are just so competitive that they are not enjoying the experience.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 7:26 am
Is that a "fair" thing to do to stay in the race? Is this race about being fair and nice to your opponent? Is that how you win? Would someone else do the same thing including the pizza guys or were they outsmarted by a little person. Why didn't one of them stay in the line while the other found the information? Would they have called Kim or Joyce that name if they did the same thing or would they keep their mouth shut because their partners are men? What is a lie? Is there a good lie and a bad lie or does it depend on the person that you like? I like the bowling moms but, they lied. I like Bob and Joyce but he was whinning about being the first on the boat yet the boat didn't leave on his timetable. I like Chip and Kim but he was not going to give into the twins and be a gentleman. I think Kami/Karli whine all the time and think they should be handed everything but it's just how I see them. The show hasn't shown us much about Brandon/Nicole or Colin/Kristie and we only get to see what they want us to see. They wanted us to see Donny/Allison fighting and they wanted us to see the pizza guys swear at Mirna/Charla and call another country's people foreigners. They are showing us an ugly side of the pizza guys. I want to think they are nicer under normal circumstances, but the race is bringing out another side. Do we watch this show to see if people are great looking, contemptible, petty, fighting, mean and nasty or because we want to see the dynamics, energy, forceful and smart way to win a race for a prize. I want to see it all and wish it was on for 2 hours every week. I can't judge the people in the race by what is shown but do enjoy seeing the people who outsmart someone. What is important in this game? Being smart or being intelligent? I want to be smart. Being called a midget most of my life yet not being one made me determined in my mind as a child. I can do a lot more than is expected of me with the upper part of my body but know I can't keep up with my 6 plus foot DH while walking. Do I whine about it? Sometimes. Do I use my shortness around men if they could do something for me that I could figure out? Yes. Is that lying?
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Blacksheep
Member
10-18-2003
| Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 8:47 am
Csnog - no not lying, rather its manipulating - still a quality that is not all too attractive(imo). ------------------------------------------------------------------ I personally don't like whiners & this shows got plenty this season! My issues with the Charla and why I dislike the team is that as already stated, is she talks about being independent and proving she can do this, then in the next step she's using manipulation and pity to propel herself. This isn't necessarily 'wrong' however to many these actions are not looked upon fondly. She doesn't want people to pity her in day to day life yet when it fits her needs she has no problems playing it up. She's a fence rider. I was initially rooting for this team, until I began to see their personalities (ugly). Actually I haven't decided what team I like the most, maybe the moms or the internet daters; this season has me feeling icky towards most of the teams, there's something 'ugly' about 95%. But I am happy with the appearance that these teams are 'normal folk' not all models or wanna-be actors.
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Loganv
Member
03-26-2003
| Friday, July 23, 2004 - 10:10 pm
I like this team....Mirna is great.....She is having fun along the way and that is cool....
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