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Calamity
Member
10-18-2001
| Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 9:59 am
Congratulations to Chip & Kim!!! And best wishes as well to Colin & Christie, Brandon & Nicole, and Linda & Karen! It was a great season but not quite as exciting or competitive as some in the past. At least for me, that is. However things did pick up about halfway through and as it turned out three of TAR5's tasks - the stone slabs Detour at Giza, climbing Lookout Mountain in snowshoes, and the ascender Roadblock at Lagen Wall - were probably among the most difficult ever. For me, the finish was a little anticlimactic since C/K's win was all but guaranteed by the plane delay/checked bags fiasco. Even the cheering & congratulations at the end seemed a bit more subdued than in seasons past - although that could be editing. I thought all the teams were gracious in their words at the finish line, with my favorite being (apart fromt the gushing, sentimental stuff, of course!) Kim's comment that she hoped people who had the opportunity to travel would do so. 'Course I would love to get to travel the world so I was an easy sell for those words, lol. They may have been unpopular here, but Colin & Christie were clearly the most formidable TAR5 team (proof this episode: Colin finished mere minutes behind Chip on the ascender Roadblock despite Chip having a huge lead in getting there before Colin). Still, Chip & Kim hung in there and got a lucky break at the right time. As I wrote before the season began, I prefer this race to be run (and won) on skill, strength, and luck - and not thanks to a dreaded Yield, lol - and that's how it came down, thank heavens! Aside from Mirna & Charla, I was a little disappointed in most of the female contestants this season. There weren't any real standouts like my past favorites Margarita, Tian, Kelly, Paige, Jill, Mary, or even Millie. But then again, since the guys did most of the tasks for the co-ed teams this season, it's a little hard to judge. Favorite destinations this season? Hmm...guess my top three would be Rotorua in New Zealand, Patagonia in Argentina, and Cairo in Egypt. Can't wait til TAR6!!!
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Bluejaxrock
Member
04-23-2004
| Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:40 am
Quick question...were Donny and Alison at the finish line to greet the winners? I didn't notice, and wondered if they would be there since they're not a "couple" anymore. Thanks in advance!
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:41 am
Wow - I'm thrilled that Chip and Kim won!!! So, much to say about the last episode. I thought TAR really pulled out the impossible physical tasks for the end. Going up 1,000 feet of rope using only your own steam - very, very, very tough!! Climbing 1,000 feet at high altitudes at the continental divide? That can be near impossible even for a very fit person who is used to living a sea level. (I wish they told us the altitude they started at - but it was a ski area, so probably fairly high.) I though these things really, really favored the aerobically fit over the smart contestants - right at the end of the race too. Still, C/K did win and although Chip is clearly a strong person, Colin has him beat based on a simple physical/aerobic abilities. I was really bummed for the bowling moms, but they took the loss so well!!! I found it totally ironic that these seasoned travelers who had just traveled all around the world for a month got stuck on a FAA rule they knew nothing about. They should have mailed those boxes. Our local international airport has a 24/7 post office - I would think a town like Calgary would if Detroit does. Live and learn - and lose a million bucks. OUCH!!!
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:48 am
bluejax, ALison and Donny were at the finish line. I thought the same thing Gina. I actually thought they were going to mail them and figured we were being shown this because they would accidentally pack something they needed. Maybe they didn't want to spend any $$ on mailing. I bet we'll never see another team check luggage! LOL.
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Carolinakisses
Member
10-16-2001
| Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 12:33 pm
I wonder what was so important in the boxes they had to keep? Just go out and buy another shirt or pair of pants. LOL Brandon was not concerned about getting the checked boxes at the airport so it must not have been anything of great importance.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 12:51 pm
Yeah, I remember previous teams just discarding their stuff on the last leg. I was wondering why Chip and Kim were even bothering to lug their packs at the end! At least they quickly dropped them.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 1:11 pm
I absolutely LOVED this final episode. I was rooting for Chip and Kim, too.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 3:54 pm
If they live in Coto like their profile says there home is worth over a mil. Thanks for the info Geri and Robok!!!
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Beruthiel
Member
10-08-2002
| Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 4:38 pm
Just have to express my total satisfaction that Chip and Kim won. They were the nicest couple, with genuine pleasure at being able to visit other countries, and they had respect for other people and cultures, and even when in a hurry, treated the people they met with decency. Unlike the runners up. I was totally chuffed that the runners up were not the winners!
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Jedisan
Member
01-11-2002
| Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 5:25 pm
Can you imagine being their kids at school today? They have the ROCKIN-EST parents on all of God's green Earth today. Very, very proud of Chip and Kim I told a friend that in all of the years of watching these darn reality shows (and there are ALOT)... I have finally got a winner that I rooted for since the begining, that I genuinely liked. This is the FIRST one! (I liked Drew, and wanted that win over CB, but truth is, I really didn't care for either of them, or any of the others)
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 6:11 pm
<high fives chip & Kim> 
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Ric_munoz
Member
07-05-2003
| Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 7:58 pm
Maybe it was just me, but it REALLY looked like they used a STAND-IN for Allison! Anyone who has it on tape or TiVo, take a close look at the quick glimpses they gave us of Donny and Allison. While the blonde woman next to him could pass for Allison from a distance, I'm convinced it was not Allison. If anyone agrees (or disagrees) with me, please share your thoughts (or condemnations!). Thanks!
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 8:47 pm
it was Ali
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:03 pm
hmm maybe that is why Ali wasn't at the BB finale; people would be pressuring her for results on TAR.. I missed spoiling with all of you, but since I was at the BB finale until after six and then had to take the 405 all the way home, I just got home in time to watch BB and TAR here and decided to do it unspoiled.. talk about tension!! So happy for Chip and Kim. Pamy, they do live in Coto and they have three kids and two companies between them! Don't know if it will be printed but I wrote this letter to the editor last night: Chip and Kim did OC Proud on The Amazing Race I couldn't be more pleased to call Chip and Kim, the winners of The Amazing Race, "neighbors". Chip, Kim, you showed such grace to the people in every country, you displayed such appreciation of the places and the history and you kept going, even through some very rough times. Congratulations on a well-deserved win. You have proved that people can go on a reality show and retain their humanity and digity. Well done! Lynn Duncan Fountain Valley There was a short article in the Register today but they said there will be an interview with them tomorrow.
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Ric_munoz
Member
07-05-2003
| Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 10:36 pm
Gina: I just got back from the BB wrap party at CBS and Allison was there so I got to ask her directly if she was at the AR finish line in Texas. She replied that she was not and it was indeed a stand-in who the producers used to take her place. (She wasn't even aware that they had used a stand-in.) I asked if she and Donny were still friends or in contact -- she replied that only via text messaging and that they have arguments even through that mode of communication. She arrived at the wrap party with Danielle and was very friendly -- nothing like the virago we've come to know via BB and AR.
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Mpjr
Member
08-15-2004
| Friday, September 24, 2004 - 12:58 am
Well I just spent 30 minutes going over and over my Tivo recording and clear as day is a shot of Ali & Donny just as Chip & Kim are getting out of the minivan. If it's not Ali then it's her clone. I thought well maybe it's been edited in from a different locale or time of day, but even the background meshes with the rest of the shot. If it was edited that's the best editing I've ever seen. I'm sorry, but at this time I don't buy the stand-in story. Just my opinion ...
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Mpjr
Member
08-15-2004
| Friday, September 24, 2004 - 1:00 am
Hmm .. maybe it's a rascally DNA twist overflowing onto TAR 
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Ric_munoz
Member
07-05-2003
| Friday, September 24, 2004 - 1:55 am
Mpjr: I asked Ali three different ways. First I asked, simply, Did you participate in the finale of Amazing Race? Answer: "No." Did you know they used a stand-in for you? Answer: "They did? I didn't see the finale." Then I asked her if she was still living in Pennsylvania ("No, I'm moving to South Carolina soon.") I asked her a couple of other questions unrelated to AR5, then I came back to it and asked, So you were not part of that finish line scene in Texas, at all? Answer: "No, I just wanted to come back here [to L.A.] after we got eliminated." Here's a pic of me with Ali at tonight's BB5 wrap party (BB3's Jason is in the background).

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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, September 24, 2004 - 3:21 am
I believe you Ric. You have to admit it was a damn good double, though:
 Is it possible Alison was lying?
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Friday, September 24, 2004 - 7:08 am
I think the pic from the finale looks more like Ali than the woman with Ric!! Not saying she wasn't Ali. Ali may love LA but she didn't bother to come to the Big Brother Finale on Tuesday night.. maybe because Justin did come and he's a real cutie pie!! I'm happy as a clam about the winners!!
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Crossfire
Member
08-07-2001
| Friday, September 24, 2004 - 7:45 am
That is strange, the standin look more real than the original in the wrap pic. Heck of a good pick on their part.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Friday, September 24, 2004 - 10:34 am
That looks a lot like her doesn't it? Alison has not reason to lie. Maybe they did some computer tricks? Who knows... I'm quite sure the contract allowed TAR to use her image. BTW - I don't think she'd be avoiding Justin. She even said in one of her interviews that he's one of the few from BB she stays in touch with. Their relationship was a tad messed up, but it never had the "I refuse to ever speak to you again" animosity vibe.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Friday, September 24, 2004 - 10:49 am
("not reason" should be "no reason") Urgh... showing once again why my lowest grade in all of highschool was earned in typing!!!
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Wink
Member
10-06-2000
| Friday, September 24, 2004 - 3:11 pm
Alison's nose looks much different in the picture with Ric than in the AR pictures. Perhaps she didn't want attention drawn to a comparison of the two.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, September 24, 2004 - 5:41 pm
looks like she finally got that nose job. But I will say that the women in the picture in the amazing race photo, doesnt really look like Alison. The eyes look really different. It does look like a stand in to me.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Friday, September 24, 2004 - 6:35 pm
So Ric, any info from the cast party you want to share??
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 5:54 pm
I think it was Alison at the finish line. She may not have lied, just having not watched the show (she said she hadn't) she might have thought there was some sort of live BB style post-show get together and thought that's what Ric meant. Or she may have just lied. It's very weird. I just can't see how AR would let her out of the finale. How long did it take to film the show, about four or five weeks? At most I would guess it's a month between Alison and Donny's exit and the end of the show, and during that time the teams are given an expenses paid vacation so that their families can't tell when the were eliminated, so how would Alison get to skip the finish line? It just doesn't make sense. Plus of course the picture looks exactly like her. The alleged nose job was done before AR was filmed (it was talked about during the show) and she might have been squinting at the sun but if that was a double then the girl's got a twin she knows nothing about.
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Wendo
Member
08-07-2000
| Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 10:13 pm
If it is a double (and I think it is), it's a dang good one. The eyebrows look thicker than the pic of Ric with Allison.
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Mpjr
Member
08-15-2004
| Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 3:05 am
Ric - I don't doubt you or your recount of your discussion at the party. I hope you didn't take it that way. I am very thankful you shared your experiences and enjoy everything you post. I'm a newbie so what do I know. I just don't buy that it was not Ali. I went over the recording several times (the screencap on here has a facial shadow as does the recording) watching how the sun hit everyone, the background and even the position of the trees. I looked at Ali from the clip at the beginning of the show to see how she measured up to Donny and her hairstyle, color (which can be easily changed, however it did not look different than it was say 30 or so days before the finale shoot and in the BB5 party shot she looks more polished - but that's um 6 or 7 months later). Maybe Ali wasn't so thrilled with her AR5 experience and is distancing herself from it and Donny, maybe she forgot she was there, maybe none of the finale was in Dallas, maybe she wasn't there at the finale and I'm a total mental case for spending more than 15 minutes thinking about it and writing about it, maybe the stand in was at both the AR5 finale and at the BB5 wrap party, maybe Ali doesn't really exist, maybe she has a freaky 1/2 sis that looks just like her that she doesn't know about, maybe "the government" has developed an advanced cloning device and there are two Ali's , and maybe I don't really care which is the truth. I just don't buy it was a stand in - that's all. I don't need convincing, it's not that important to me (well it was important enough for me to question myself and try to discover my own "truth"). I've already convinced myself and I'm moving on. If it was a stand in - Okay. If it wasn't - Okay. I didn't get any $$, neither did she and Chip & Kim did. I'm happy with that (well, except for the me not getting any $$ part) I just don't want you or anyone here to think I was questioning you or your recount of your conversation. I don't. You are so gracious to have let us into an event and give us an insider's viewpoint. Thank you. Disclaimer: It's just my opinion, please don't run me outta town.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 7:50 pm
Maybe she was under the impression she was still under the confidentiality clause? Who knows really.
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