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Alisons
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01-10-2003

Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 4:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Phil's use of "predetermined amount of time" is a mind game for the contestants so that they do not know exactly how much of an advantage they will get by using the yield. Frankly, every "hourglass" they have shown has looked like it would take maybe 5 minutes for the sand to run out. I think it is more psychological than anything, and will probably spur the team on who gets yielded more than anything.

Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Monday, September 13, 2004 - 5:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
TAR4 was supposed to premiere in March a few years ago, but was pushed back to run in the summer(June or July premiere) as I remember. It was a good move for the franchise at that time, and now TAR franchise has built a pretty good fan base so that it could probably flourish no matter when they run it. By premiering in October/November, they'll be competing with re-runs during the holiday season, thus ensuring less competition.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Monday, September 13, 2004 - 10:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Running the best show on Saturday's at 8pm can kill it. I hope they give it a decent time slot - even if it delays the premiere. I just started watching every ep this season and really enjoy it!

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 1:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
A couple of questions about the Bowling Moms. Don't know why but I have a mental block about Who's Who on their team. But now....Linda is LightHaired, maybe I can keep track. Checked at CBS but my questions still exist:

- which one was (a couple of shows back Quitcher-Whining) was doing The Whining?

- last week on the sledging, which one said "I'm afraid" (like, she could actually stop in midst of the river? Jeepers, I would have LOVED to see the guide's face at that point! - you wish me to take you back PIGGY-BACK?)

I think they're doing great. Just trying to sort out. I don't think they will win, but wouldn't mind if they did - anyone but Colin/Ch and Brandon/Nix}!!

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 5:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Linda was doing the whining.

Karen was the "I'm afraid" one.

Let's hope they hang in there tonight along with Chip and Kim!

Justalittlebean
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08-15-2003

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 8:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here's a message I found that Colin posted on another message board about editing of him.....

Author: Colin Guinn on 2004-09-01 at 20:36:00 (posted from: Host: cs6820186-161.stx.rr.com IP: 68.201.86.161)


Subject: I figured we had a more intellegent crowd here (m) (182 views)

Message: I'm not denying the fact that I can be a complete a$$hole fequently, but I promise you that I don't even resemble that jerk you're watching. Take any 2 hour argument you might have had with your SO. Now edit out all the bad things she ever said to you, actually pretty much anything she said to you at all. Then only show all the mean things you said to her in about 1 minute. Then edit out all your appologies and put in her appologies, so it really makes her look like a doormat, and you'll get an idea of the power that they have on these reality TV shows.

Actually Christie's biggest quam with the show is that she comes across as a passive person. She is actually the boss in our relationship and she is at least as aggressive as I am. And as far as letting her run free, a lot of the reason we are doing as well as we are is completely because of her. She is the one that got us into Cairo 12 hours ahead of everyone else. You just have to realize that if it is going to benefit the ratings to make someone be the complete a-hole, then they are going to give America that person. I'm actually a pretty decent guy and I really do care about people. It has been very difficult seeing how I come accross on TV, and if I were watching that guy, I would sure hate his guts, and I'd have plenty of mean things to tell him.




Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I hope C/C laugh all the way to the bank. They have consistently shown that they are the best team insofar as aggressiveness, intelligence and getting through the challenges. What can you say about someone's personality if all you are seeing is an edited version?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Having watched the Big Brother unedited live feeds and then having watched the edited television presentation, I have absolutely no faith that CBS is editing the Amazing Race in an unbiased manner.

IMO CBS' edited portrayal of the Big Brother contestants does not provide an accurate representation of their true personalities as shown on the live feeds, therefore I have no reason to believe that their editing is any better with the Amazing Race.

Karen
Member

09-07-2004

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Roxip, I completely agree. I've had them as my #1 pick since the first leg of the race... and so far, they've kept me in the top of my pool at work!

"Then edit out all your appologies and put in her appologies, so it really makes her look like a doormat..."

OMG that had me giggling like a schoolgirl... that's funny.

Jan
Member

08-01-2000

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have to admit I have disliked the Colin/ Christie team from the getgo but that message from Colin really makes me rethink my opinion. I keep forgetting how they edit these shows!!!!

They are still not my fav team but now I won't mind that much if they win. They certainly deserve to win as they have consistently been a top team. IMHO

Uhoh
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07-23-2002

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 12:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
nice post from colin, and i agree w/ you jimmer about editing (i always watch BB and know how inaccurately so many people are portrayed.)

the problem i had with colin was less about his relationship with christie (that's their business and again, the editing) but how he behaved about the cab fare. i'm appalled how some of the contestants behave in other countries, particularly third world, and they're probably the same people who don't understand why we americans can be seen in such a poor light (arrogant!) when on their turf.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 12:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Or it could be that he really is a jerk but is falling back on the 'it's not really me, just the way i am edited' bs.

Wilsonatmd
Member

01-23-2001

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 12:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ok...there's a big rumor that tonight is going to have a shock...something that is unusual for this show at this time in the race.

Also, TV Guide has a short things on TAR 6. No pics, but the cast is supposed to include:

-pro wrestlers
-a former Playmate to go along with the models
-an ex-CIA operative
-and an entrepreneur with blue hair

Biscottiii
Member

05-29-2004

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 5:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
TY Tntitanfan for answering my 'Bowling Moms' questions. It's been bugging me, then couldn't find the answers at CBS.

Tonight's show should be something! We've had a lot of deaths from people going over the Aurora Bridge, Hwy 99, in Seattle. From the clips, it almost looks like they're climbing a ladder up to a bridge or something that looks nearly as tall. I'm cringing already!

TY also Justalittlebean for the Colin message! I'm sure he doesn't like how he's portrayed and that editing plays a factor. But I don't think he can blame ALL the tantrums on editing - sure looked like his mug shots I was seeing in the TV. He gave them plenty of footage to work with, in many categories, IMO.

Sherry
Member

08-02-2004

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 8:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
First time posting here, but just wanted to say that colin and christie,have a business in here and have a commerical that,s on alot, So i hope he,s not as bad as he,s protrayed on tv. Might make people go to someone else. lol

Sherry
Member

08-02-2004

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Mean,t here in town.

Roppiepie
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05-06-2004

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 9:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
are my eyes deceiving me,or did i really see Colin kick that ox? If he did, are there any rules in place for discipline for that kind of aggressive behavior?

Jaymmzzs
Member

07-16-2004

Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 12:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I really think that colin post is crap, we saw tonight colin yells at her to get in the mud she says ok, after the police thing she was saying sorry to him.
I have never yelled that I hate my girlfriend so if you dont do and say these things all the editing in the world wont make them happen.God why wasnt it an elimination round. dam it

Biscottiii
Member

05-29-2004

Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 1:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Actually, the hype/commercials made it look like Colin was screaming "I hate you" towards Christie - - but my impression, watching the show, was that he was directing it AT THE OX. However, it appeared that the Ox had a leathery, un-sensitive hide and wasn't too impressed. You know how we're always saying C/C don't seem to have good teamwork? This challenge was a prime example - truly amazing the Ox didn't head for 'Outer Mongolia' while he was on the roll!

Maybe Colin was posting that previous post on that other message board, KNOWING full well that people were going to see him REALLY get down & dirty tonight. No pun intended. hehehe!

That has got to be the BEST TAR episode I have seen period! LOL

Interesting that the 3 teams in the taxis all had the same idea. You saw C/K plus B/N yelling across taxis to yield C/C - then saw the Bowling Moms (in their taxi simultaneously) talking about yielding C/C. Hard to believe that C/C's cocky attitude hasn't been pretty apparent during the previous pitstops (Three Trips Won too). I HOPE, now that they see it can work for them, that the other 2 teams use it too (just to level the playing field).


Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 6:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
C/C may be cocky, but until last night, they were clearly the best team. Where they failed last night was Christie not helping with the Ox thing. Every other team helped each other, but Colin was trying to guide the Ox and hold the plow at the same time while Christie was standing off to the side watching.

It's like Chip said, C/C were like the Lakers...just the best. I was happy that wasn't an elimination round. I also thought Colin's "I hate you" was directed at that poor ox and not Christie.

Dram
Member

09-10-2003

Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 6:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Whenever there is a person/people who win or look like they may be winning and they have been behaving horribly, two things happen.

1. They (the players) complain about editing.

2. Some of the people (viewers) start to make excuses for them because "we" really don't want our winners to behave in a manner that is so disgustingly horrific. We start to prop them up a little with things like: they're not that bad, it's editing, they were under stress, yada, yada, yada.
I'm not buying that. I think they were under stress but I think they both have definite issues. Colin's backtracking now because he knows his behavior is beyond inappropriate and Christie has a quiver of fear in her voice all the time. That's not acting either.

Mush
Member

09-09-2002

Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 6:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Although I think that the "I hate you" was directed at the ox, I agree with Jaymmzzs that the Colin gives the editors plenty to work with. If you edited fights my ex and I had following Colin's scenario, they'd still be nothing compared to his fits. Also, the comments by others in the game -- remember Mirna talking about Christie being too submissive to him -- makes me think that the people who he spent time with saw the same Colin that we're seeing.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I did think this episode showed more of Christie's bad traits too. She didn't come off looking like a victim nearly as much as in previous episodes.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 7:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hooray for Chip and Kim!!!

To give the devil his due, I also believe Colin was talking to the ox. And did ya'll see Christie going nuts in the cab? Colin had to calm her down this time.

What I don't understand is why, other than poor sportsmanship, C/C kept saying that C/K were not playing fairly. I think it was a great strategic move on C/K's part. They learned well from last week's mistake. And I loved how all three teams were on the same page about using the Yield on C/C. Obviously, C/C have very short memories when it comes to their own actions towards other teams.

Hooray for Chip and Kim!!!

Lycanthrope
Member

09-19-2002

Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 7:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
While I'm still rooting for C/C, I don't think it was at all unfair of C/K to yield them. It was a good, strategic move. Personally, I like all the teams still in the race and wouldn't be unhappy to see any of them win.