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Max
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08-12-2000

Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 11:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
GO CHIP AND KIM!!!!

GO BOWLING MOMS!!!!

I'm hoping that Chip's idea about boosting Colin's ego all the time works the way he wants it to. C&C weren't too bad this week, but he still irritates the heck out of me. He seemed to think that his inability to make a correctly formed brick was all her fault. That seems to be his pattern -- anytime he's frustrated, he lashes out at Christy. I really hope the preview for next week is correct in stating that "Christy starts to demand some respect" from Colin. They've won two vacations now, right? So they can each have one and go their separate ways after the race! At the very least, as I've said before, Colin could use an anger management class. He needs to learn to deal with frustration in a much more productive and less verbally abusive manner.

Brandon and Nicole seem to have a good relationship. Brandon is so nice to her! Whenever she gets upset, he seems to always be very concerned and caring towards her. Colin could learn something by watching him.

That said, I have to say I am sick to death of hearing Reality Show people say things like, "The Lord really wants us to be in this race." ARGH! Yes, Brandon, I'm sure that the Lord has nothing better to do than help you stay in this race. It's not like there are millions of people starving in India all around you or a war going on in Iraq or AIDS ravaging the population of several African countries or anything else that's more important that your chance at winning a million bucks. Yeah, that's the ticket. I know their faith is important and can help them get through all these scary and uncomfortable situations (I can't imagine being on that train), but come on. I would really rather hear them say something like, "Lord, thank you for seeing us through whatever comes our way. With you by our side, we know we will be fine, no matter what." I think this is what their actions clearly show and that's the best testament of all. :-)


Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 1:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Max, Well Said!!! I agree, the prayers get to be way tooooo much, like B/N figure they have a big FREE photo op to preach to the masses. Leaves me wishing for a TAR 'Christians vs. the lions challenge' back in Rome - get them lions hungry already! I was a tad fearful B/N might flinch at the red dye to the forehead at the end, like it might be a heathen sort of thing; but thankfully she looked natural when she flicked off the flower petal right away.

I need to rewatch my VCR tape, but it sure seemed like Chip SEVERAL times tonight was giving helpful directions to other players (not just C/C to beef him up). I just keep feeling betta and betta about C/K Team.

I had to laugh, though, about when Chip plopped into the taxi. He was so transparent and Kim could read him like a book, even though she commented about him plopping his big derriere. You could just read his "I've now driven a Taxi in Calcutta" thought process churning. lol! And she just shook her head and started pushing.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 1:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
One thought came to mind though about Nicole feeling stared at and claustrophobic there in Calcutta.

Around 1987-88, our Union Rep took his wife and two young daughters (maybe 8-9 yr olds) for a month roaming many parts of China. He came back and showed us wonderful pictures.

But it startled me when he said that they had to stop for intervals to give the daughters some quiet time/breaks. So many people wanted to touch their blond hair and look at them, it was like a sensory overload. No harm intended, but many of the people had never seen light skin and blond hair before.

Tonight many of the men on the trains seemed to be staring but for the most part it didn't seem to be a leering type of stare - more like simple curiosity, JMO.

Carolinakisses
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10-16-2001

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 5:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Did anyone notice Christie's smirky grin during the commotion of the Bowling Moms and taxi driver at the airport?

P_gunslinger
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06-09-2004

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 5:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes, ma'am...I thought it was pretty darn funny of her to smirk like that considering the "international incident" she and Colin had in Tanzania.



Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 5:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yankee I spit my soda out at that one too. I mean if there is one place you do not want to use your sexuality its in Dubai. It was interesting when one of the twins tried to shake the hand of one of the men there, he recoiled.


I always find it interesting to watch how ignorant and unaware people are of the customs of other countries. The only ones who seem to be adaptable to their environment are Chip and Kim.

Aussiedeb
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07-05-2004

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Another great episode. I really like Chip and Kim, and I too notice how they embrace all the different cultures. Last night they said it was their second honeymoon.

I also like the bowling moms.


Shelb724
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10-20-2002

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Did anyone else notice that the brickyard boss seemed to not require the twins bricks to be as good as the others. Wonder if he was impressed by them or if he was just tired of the whole thing by then/

i noticed that too. that or he was just dazzled by their fabulousness :-).

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'd never have shaved my head, that's just such a big deal to me, it seems too much to ask of the players, and particularly unfair to the women.

And did you all notice that even if they had shaved their heads they wouldn't have been first, in fact they might only have gained one place. If I had to do something as big as that I'd at least want a HUGE benefit from it!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 12:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just knew I would come in here and find someone blasting Brandon about praying in the cab. There are a lot of people that pray before making decisions or before doing other things. He and Nicole were in their cab and they were praying for guidance in their task. So sorry that the camera was there to show their prayer and offend y'all.

Hummingbird
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08-21-2002

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I like Brandon and Nicole and am not offended by their faith in God or their prayers. They seem to be very nice young people who care about each other. I hope they make it to the top three. Either Chip & Kim, The Bowling Moms, or Brandon & Nicole would be satisfying winners for this viewer.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree with Max. I'm not the least bit offended by Brandon and Nicole's Christianity and there is nothing wrong with praying for guidance and to feel emotional support. However, I was uncomfortable with their statements at the end as I find it difficult to understand how God could be playing an active part in guiding the Amazing Race, given other things that could be done throughout the world. But then they say that God works in mysterious ways so ....

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 1:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Re God - I was always taught that god cares about everyone in everything they do - IMO that would include people participating in reality TV shows.

Re - the starring at Nicole. I don't blame her for feeling uncomfortable. I know a blond woman who went to Africa on an eagle scout like trip to help build wells. She said she was starred at constantly and people would reach out and touch her hair. She was made of much sterner stuff than Nicole and she said it made her uncomfortable. Imagine Nicole was not only young, pretty, light skinned, and light eyed but she had this camera crew and a blond adonis with her. Those travelers had nothing better to do but stare. BTW - I've heard that in some coutries grabbing of women in crowded trains/buses is a serious problem. In Tokoyo they provide female only cars to help alleviate the problem. She had reason to be scared.

Re the twin's bricks - Yup, the judge definitely got lax there towards the end. I don't think he thought it mattered after so many hours. That looked like a pretty tough job!

Re Christy's smirky grin - saw that too. I guess I had a nicer interpretation - sorta a "see, we aren't the only one with cabbie problems!!!"

I still loved this ep and I loved all the observations everyone brought to it!!!!



B4ugogo
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09-09-2002

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 2:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Does anyone remember what Colin said in the taxi cab while in India - Christie responded that he shouldn't put down their culture. What exactly did he say? (my ears seem to stop functioning when he opends his mouth).

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 2:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If I remember correctly Colin was actually (sarcastically) making positive statements about India, as only Colin can do. (Which was in counterpoint to the other teams nattering on about the abject poverty and filthy they were seeing.)

Jami
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10-08-2003

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Colin was saying something like, "Oh what a beautiful place and the people look so happy."

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 4:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just love Chip and Kim more and more every week! I want to go live in their neighborhood so I can be their new best friend! They seem to be genuinely sweet and kind people.

I really felt bad for Brandon and Nicole when they took the FF and found out they would have to shave their heads (I'd do it for a GUARANTEED million bucks, but not just for a chance at it!). I felt so bad for Nicole when she was crying in the cab and Brandon was so sweet to her, he made me cry! I thought his prayer was to calm her down and help her to feel better. To me, it was a sweet thing (although, I'm not convinced either that God really wants them to win this race!).

When we witness the bad behavior of some of these people, we should all try to remember that they are probably utterly, bone-wearily exhausted! Every week I watch this show and think, "I really couldn't do this!" The things they have to do (and eat!), the constant travel and the stress must just be incredible.

Just have to add that when the clue said they had to take a train in India, I thought, "Oh, no! Not those grabby men again!" I was horrified last year at what the women team members had to indure on those Indian trains and couldn't believe the TAR producers were going to do that to them again. Once again, I know I couldn't do half the stuff these teams do. I'd be way crankier than Nicole for sure!!!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 4:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Colin made a comment about how he was trying to say positive things because everyone else would be saying how ugly India was - then they cut to the Moms saying how beautifully Indian women dressed!!

Lurkin
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02-15-2002

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I liked the way both bowling moms plopped in the cab and let the men push them.

I feel Brandon & Nicole will have a lot harder time getting money in poor Calcutta than the other two teams did begging



Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 6:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Is this repeating Saturday night? I somehow fell asleep last night before this came on.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 6:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Brandon and Nicole didn't offend me w/ their praying...I understand it was a way to calm their fears and give them peace in a very stressful situation.

However, I laughed my behind off that they wouldn't cut their hair! I freely admit, hair has never been the big deal to me that it is to many...I keep mine short (it's thick and heavy and pin straight...and I HATE blowdrying it!), so shaving it wouldn't be any big deal. However, as soon as DH and I saw WHO it was that would be asked to shave their heads, we KNEW it would be a huge issue! I know Nicole said they were both models...but don't ya' think that if they had shaved their heads, they could have used that to their advantage when they got back from the race...winners or not? Talk about "instant" celebrity!

Anyway, it made me chuckle.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 8:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah, I took B&N's prayer as a way to recall something familiar... does that make sense? Some people meditate, some people pray. If they were Catholics they might have recite "Hail Mary" or "Our Father", if they were Hindu they might've said "UmmmA"...

About being stared at, I'm glad no one said the words "stupid idiots" or "dumb f***s"... (Does TAR players have more class or something?) Where ever you are, if you stood out in the crowd, you are going to get "admired" like that. One can say that, some "peoples" who'd being showered by Victorian rules, bombed by PC or plan "more worldly", know how to hide that instinct better. But those Indians, Chinese or Africans were in their homecourt, or could we called them more "innocent"?
I know it's horrible. I've been on both ends. Was a kid in a mob of natives reaching, grabbing and yelling out English I thought I'd learn from movies(turned out they were Belgians). Was a worried mom trying to protect my baby from hands from all directions while traveling the central mountains in Taiwan. My then 10 mon. o. baby had very pink complexion and much lighter hair. She also has Western round eyes, until she grins, smiles or laughs, they'd become Chinese slants. Strangers loved to tease her and she loved to giggle which drew more people around us ... People would give her toys, candy & cookies in her hands constantly and it was rude not to accept. When I said she's allergic to certain things they laughed w/disbelieves since she was sporting "nursing cheeks". My older one was four/five but looked Chinese enough to not cause too much attention. She in turn was actually upset that she didnt have that much adoration!-- you know how youngens would start to imitate babies in order to garner more attention?... I didn't even have to deal with language or culture difference. It was still an exhausting experience for us to say the least. But really, you have to be prepared if you choose to go on a trip like this! "Grin and bear" could be the only option sometimes.

Gina is right about the "female only" carts in Tokyo. That's because they also have special helpers dressed w/white gloves to "pack" "bodies" in to already packed carts during rush hours. (The high density of population in Tokyo is very real.)


Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 11:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was in Southern Japan in 1963. People would pet my long blond hair when I walked down the street.
There are females only trains to Bombay because "not all men are gentlemen".

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 12:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tishala, here it's repeated at 9 or 10pm on Saturday.

Mak1
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08-12-2002

Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 4:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm enjoying watching the extra footage and Phil's Diary clips at CBS.com. This week, Phil talked about the staring in India. He said whenever they take a camera to India, there is suddenly a swarm of people around them. The people are fascinated to see the cameras, and have lots of questions. He said they tend to stare into the cameras. So many people show up that it isn't possible to make them stay out of the way, so they just go with it. He said they never interfere, they just stare and follow the camera. There was a humorous clip this week with Chip & Kim concerning Kim's reaction to the groping on the train.