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Iheartkaysar
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08-16-2005

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 9:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iheartkaysar a private message Print Post    
Why I dislike the Weavers and enjoy the Bransen and Linz families is exactly why I disliked the Friendship and liked the Sov6 on BB: the Weavers and the Friendship appeared to hate being on the show. Everything was "hard" and "unfair" and everyone else was out to get them. On the other hand, the Bransens and Linz (like the Sov 6) have fun! They may say a few things they shouldn't (though I don't remember any of them saying anything really personal about the Weavers), but they are fun and competitive.

RE: the Weavers and religion: I have no problem with them being Christian and in fact, respect families with a strong faith. However, I have trouble w/ people who constantly bring God/Jesus etc into everything (especially game shows!), and insist they are better people b/c they are Christian. I don't recall Kaysar bringing his religion into the game, other than the fact that he practiced it!

Lizziedi
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10-05-2005

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 10:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lizziedi a private message Print Post    
"Kaayysarrrrr!"

Ahem--back to the show--so glad Stopwatchin brought up the Linz' scene with the cop--that was one of those spontaneous priceless moments. What was the comment? "You just told a cop we were racing other cars!"--something like that.

No-one is mentioning the Paolo's interview this morning? Mama Paolo was exactly herself, laughing off the whole thing as "we love each other but we fight." When anyone else talked she interupted to say that she knew better, and no-one listened to her. The interviewer took her side, and in a really forced and ridiculous moment gave her a hug and admonished the guys to respect their mom.

Ahhh-what to say about this? Controlling, verbal abuse as the norm. I agree they all love each other, and really wish them well.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 2:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Nick, I noticed the picture too and thought the same thing.

IheartKaysar, great analogy! so true.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I saw the picture too, and asked my self..."Does that mean they lose tonight?"...guess so...

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 6:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Iheart has a point... and it's pretty much why I didn't like that group of "friends" on BB. They never seemed to really have a good time, even though they continually claimed otherwise (methinks they doth protest too much!).

Also, you know that thing where if only one person is having a problem with you then it may NOT be you. But if all sorts of people are having a problem, then it IS you? Like, everyone else is usally not wrong! Hehehe...

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 6:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
So, just what is the definition of "love"? I've been a foster parent for many years and have had numerous children in our home, the result of being abused by parents who profess to "love" them very much. I've also heard those very children, who have been so hurt by their parents, profess to love their abusive parent. I've seen the same in married couples who choose to "profess" their "love" for the spouse by beating them or berating them.

So, maybe just saying the words isn't enough. Perhaps we should hold them to the same standard we do the Weavers (who have been described as hipocrits) and say that their actions don't match their words.

I, for one, was totally uncomfortable with their style of lovin'.

Landi
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07-29-2002

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landi a private message Print Post    
auntiemike, i grew up in a BIG italian family when i was younger, you should have seen sunday night dinners! 40 people all loud and back and forth and talking over one another. the paolos are very typical italian-american. and although my parents moved away from the area when i was 10, those years before that were the HAPPIEST and most loved of my entire life. my nonna always had a lap and loving arms with kisses. but she'd smack my uncle upside the head if he disrespected anyone. and he talked of her with the most love in his heart till the day he died!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I stand by the old adage "Where there's smoke, there's fire." For ALL of the teams remaining, as well as the ones who have been eliminated, to DISLIKE the Weavers as much as they do, tells me there is a reason. This isn't about one team not getting along with another, this is about a team that CANNOT get along with anyone. I have yet to hear one kind or nice word from any of the Weavers about any of the other contestants. They say nothing but ugly things about everyone, which is very un-Christianlike, and they litter, which is just flat out disgusting and disgraceful.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Lexie, ITA. I don't really have feelings for the Weavers one way or the other. BUT, I do find it very interesting that they seems so unanimously disliked.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 2:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
CBS web site mistakenly shows two eliminated Amazing Race 8 families

On Tuesday’s episode of The Amazing Race 8, the Paolo family was eliminated. But according to CBS’ web site, two families were eliminated.

That other family (stop reading now if you don’t want to know) was the Bransen family, whose picture on the Teams page was tinted and marked with an X. Oddly, it wasn’t just that someone uploaded the wrong photo; five team pictures are actually part of one big image, which, in the incorrect version, had been edited to show only three remaining teams.

An alert reader pointed this out to me yesterday, but CBS fixed the error within minutes. Luckily, at least one blogger grabbed screencaps. With thanks to blogger Alisa, Just Jared has posted an image showing the screwed up results page.

Click Here

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 2:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
oops..sorry it's so wide!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 3:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I sorta doubt that it really meant anything Tex. I think someone just got trigger happy, forgetting that it was a non-elimination round. Because the Bransens *did* come in last after the first hour. Which really was a completely separate show -- this wasn't a two hour TAR, it was two one-hour shows stacked on top of each other. :-)

Stopjustwatchin
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08-19-2005

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 3:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stopjustwatchin a private message Print Post    
I agree with Costa on that. At least it makes perfect sense, and it plays on my hopes that the Weavers are eliminated next week. :-)

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 4:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Just quoting the article since some here had noticed the same thing with the pic.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 4:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
I have to echo what others have said that the Weavers religion has nothing to do with why I don't care for them. (I'm a Christian myself so no bias there!) They always seem to be crabby or whining and not enjoying themselves. I also find it strange that NONE of the other teams like them. There has to be something more than what we've been allowed to see. I haven't even watched my tape yet of the 2nd episode, but I guess I'm just not all that thrilled with this version or you can believe I would have watched it as soon as possible! I'm hoping the Weavers go next and then I'll enjoy watching the rest. The Desperate Housewives don't bother me all that much, although I must admit I don't really pay that much attention to them! I like the Linz and Bransen families since for the most part, they seem to be having fun. That makes the big difference for me and I'd be happy to see either team win. FWIW

Beruthiel
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08-07-2000

Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 2:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beruthiel a private message Print Post    
I've been reading everything posted here about the Weavers, because based on just watching the show, I wondered what all the fuss was about.
And I wanted to say how glad I was that the Paolo family was finally gone, and that my next wish would be for those screeching women to go, and my reasons?
I'm getting crabbier by the day as I age, and I just can't be bothered to watch and listen to people who are rude to each other, insult each other, and act like spoilt brats to their mother all the while knowing that what they do is being filmed. A father who doesn't intervene to teach his son to have some manners is as bad as the erring son, so yeah, thank goodness the Paolos have gone, I won't have to get irritated each time they're on screen.
Which brings me to the screeching women, aka the Desperate Housewives. To watch and listen to them each week annoys the hell out of me, they're grown women and they act like pre-pubescent girls, and I so wish someone would tell them to shut up and grow up.
My tolerance to these shows is lessening with each episode in which so-called adults show how mean and spiteful and selfish they can be. All the children in the race who are unfortunately already gone showed better behaviour and grace under pressure than any of these so called adults.
I was quite interested in a show entirely raced within the confines of the NA continent, I thought how beautiful the land is, and how much history there is to learn, but what a disappointment, except for the magnificent Grand Canyon.
This season has fallen flat for me, and what a darn shame, because yet again it's because of the choice of contestants. Reality TV is only as good as the poeple they choose to show, and I'm beginning to feel that most reasonable and decent poeple have decided to keep their distance - leaving us with the greedy, those who crave fame, or those who want attention no matter what, instead of those looking for adventure, widening of experience, and enlightenment, and if there's money at the end of it, then that's nice too.

As for the Weavers, they aren't perfect, but it isn't because they're Christians, it's because they're human beings, mostly young and inexperienced ones at that, and are under stress which is exacerbated by grief for a lost father. So they ain't perfect - who is?

Thanks for allowing me to vent, I really needed to let off some steam!

Jen
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07-27-2003

Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
My comments on the Weavers...

Their comment last week, "we are the only ones trying to be good, the only Christians here" or something like that? How do they know they are the only Christians? They have no idea how any of the others believe. That is the kind of attitude that makes me dislike them. Also, the excessive praying annoys me.

They also feel as if everyone is against them and a pity party on themselves all the time! Maybe if they had spoken to people at the beginning of the race there wouldn't be such a chasm between them and all the other groups? And if you are so worried that people are saying rude things, why are you then doing the same? And the praying mother as the role model should be correcting that behavior if she sees it as wrong.

Also, the sisters drive me crazy, but you can tell they are moms and care about the kids. When one kid wanted to give up a few weeks ago, one of the sisters stepped in to comfort, and when the Weaver mom was driving around the track, they tried to comfort the kids then too. I don't understand why the Weavers hate them so much?

The mom seems to have a nervous breakdown every episode. I don't want to generalize, but with a strictly Christian family I wonder if the loss of the husband was so devastating b/c he ran the family? Now she is having to be the support for the kids and not having done that before along with the grief of losing her husband is in overher head.

I appreciate that she did the go cart driving with no question.

Maybe this race was too soon for them? I also wonder if the producers made 2 stops at race tracks once they knew the Weaver's story?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 9:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Jen, some posts back it was mentioned that the route and challenges are determined before the contestants are. So the racetrack challenges were already identified and set prior to the Weavers joining the race.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I have not understood the Weaver hate until this last ep, I think they are showing more of how they have acted the whole race.

Out of courtesy I would have hoped the producers told them that a race car challenge would be upcomming.

The Palo son is far worse than the Weavers, I want to smack him every week. He acts like a putz and I hope ppl on the street let him know it

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
... and another thingy... when I was growing up, if I had talked about people and been as rude as the Weaver children are, my mother would have slapped me into next week. The Weaver mother obviously has no control over her children.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 7:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Lexie, the Weaver mother was standing there smiling when the kids were making fun of the other teams (at the Yield). Almost like she was encouraging them. At no point did they show her saying they should stop it. I'm not saying she's a terrible mother, but I *am* saying she's leading by example. A terrible example.

Luloo
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11-08-2005

Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Luloo a private message Print Post    
I don't hate the Weavers, but I don't like them. They annoy me, and not in an entertaining way. Unlike the Palos, they were annoying and irritating and frustrating but they entertained the heck outta me.
Everyone has different triggers of annoyance. For me, I find it irritating when people pray as though the Holy Spirit is some sort of wish granting fairy. But, and I really mean this, if that's what works for you, then fine, but I can't deny that it bugs me.
What really bothered me, is when the kids were making fun of the other teams, IIRC, they called the Palos "retards" and laughed. It's like nails on a chalk board to me. It's offensive.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 10:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
If I had talked to my mom the way the Paolo's talked to their mom...my dad would have put me in the hospital. Of course, I was raised not to talk to my mother that way. That's one of those things you have to start early in life.

I still don't think any other team would have acted any better at the yeild. The Gaghans are the only team that might have yielded with dignity...the Pink Ladies would have bitched, the Paolos would have threatened people with bodily harm and the Linz's would have threatened revenge and made fun of whoever yeilded them. The Branson's might have held their tongue.

By holding his tongue, Papa Paolo encouraged his boys to berate and degrade their mother.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
ITA agree, nick. papa did nothing to stop it, so he was letting it continue.
and i also think the gaghans would have been disappointed at a yield, but would have probably told the children, 'it's all a part of the game'.
and you are so right about being put into the hospital. or, 'knocked into the middle of next week'.
if we had dared to be in trouble at school, we would have been doubly afraid to go home. my parents always backed the adults in our lives and it would have been more than a double-punishment. we had respect for anyone who was in charge of us.

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the pink ladies drive me nuts with their crying and screaming, and the paolos were certainly dysfunctional...the difference for me between other teams and the weavers is that mostly the animosity shown by the other teams is between other team MEMBERS, not other teams.
the weavers support each other, but not anything to do with any other team. JMO, of course!

Luloo
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11-08-2005

Monday, November 14, 2005 - 5:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Luloo a private message Print Post    
I totally agree about the Palos dysfunction. I have no idea why Papa Palo lets ANYBODY speak to his wife like that, son or not. (dr. phil moment) It really seems to be some problem between DJ and mom, the other son didn't seem to be like that (at least not to that extreme).
The first episode, I was clutching my metaphorical pears with their behaviour, but after that, I don't know, I just started to see them as some kind of crazy characters out of a Woody Allen movie or something.
I will say that if DJ doesn't come to his senses on his own or if Papa Palo doesn't have a good long talk with him about respect, given another 20 years or so and he'll be another Jonathan (shudder)

Beruthiel
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08-07-2000

Monday, November 14, 2005 - 5:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beruthiel a private message Print Post    
After reading again about some of the comments and actions of the Weavers, I can see why most folks are upset with them.
I have to admit that I miss a lot of what's said by most of the teams when they're all talking at once, because of having a hearing disability, so I had no idea they'd said most of the things reported - no wonder they annoy everyone!
I have the same trouble with Survivor and BB, and appreciate the subtitles when they whisper, but when everyone's talking at once, I wish they'd do more subtitles.
I can't discriminate between voices and words, and obviously miss more than I realised.
Perhaps that's not such a bad thing though; what the ear doesn't hear, the heart doesn't grieve over, to subvert an old saying. ;-)
One can only hope that a 'nice' team will win in the end, and not someone one can't like and root for. Last year I really enjoyed the end of the race! :-)

Laura11103
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08-13-2002

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Laura11103 a private message Print Post    
As for the Weavers... I love Rolly! Now I haven't heard a peep out of him and he's strong and really an amazing team member and a very cute kid to boot... now the girls are brats and the mom is just well, she's doing a good job staying in the game. Does everyone think Rolly is just as bad? I barely hear him say anything.

I also like the Linz' family and hope to see them win, what a handsome bunch of guys!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I can agree with that. Rolly is definitely my favorite of the Weaver's.

I would have loved to have seen his Mother encourage him to drive the go-cart. I think that would have been good for all of them.

There are many families in auto racing who have suffered devastating losses and continued to enjoy the sport. It was obviously something that his Dad enjoyed.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 12:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I said a few weeks ago that I disliked the Weavers except for Rolly, who is adorable and seems nice. I just think it's a pity he has to spend so much time around a bunch of women whose behavior I think is toxic.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
rolly is the one who called the gaghan kids names, but he is definitely not as bad as the older weavers. i agree that it might only be time before he ends up like the others. you learn what you live.
i wonder if rolly is his real name or if it's short for roland or something...seems like a race-track type dad would spell it 'raleigh':-)
i keep thinking of rolo candies and roly poly bugs!