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Sp818aa
Member
07-08-2005
| Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 3:57 pm
I am not really into these snall kids participating. Challenges were kind of lame. I will watch it but I hope the the teams with young kids go first.
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Polypody
Member
04-16-2003
| Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 11:25 am
Well I haven't read all the archives above so forgive me if I repeat what some of you may have said... I was extremely surprised at how much I enjoyed this Amazing Race! I was prepared to dislike it and questioned the 'tweaking' of such a wonderful show. However, I find that such a diverse group of families are charming and entertaining. We all can have our favorites to root for and support. I do however disagree with the casting of 'older' children and smaller ones. Some will benefit in some challenges and some will not, it evens out I assume. I would have liked to have seen demographics more equal, but it may prove entertaining to see the young ones kick some butt. I found the Gaghan family charming and the children adorable. And of course the Black family was just wonderful...sorry they had to go first. I have to agree about the 'schreeching' pink team..eek.. I do not care for the team of young studs and sister....is it the Linz family? All those muscles and nothing to back it up.... But best of all, this show has very few models and wannabe actors which seems to have infiltrated the shows recently. Now I may be proved wrong here....but generally they seem like 'real' people and you can't go wrong with a 'reality'show with real people. Anyway...loved seeing Drew and Kevin....such a nice little twist..... Looking forward to the next show.....
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Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002
| Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 8:36 am
That team that got eliminated last night I thought probably deserved to go. The father of that family is living in world all his own, separate from reality. He was all up for blaming his son for srewing up, but when it was revealed that his navigation skills were to blame for them being off course, he was quick to say that it was a team screw-up, and that his son needs to learn not to blame others....I hope he watched the episode and learned something from his behavior, and I hope the son learned how not to behave. Now if those screeching sisters or that horrible Paolo family will just lose, I'll be happy. Just keep that dad and three gorgeous daughters around for a little while longer so I'll have some eye candy for a few more weeks 
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Sadiesmom
Member
03-13-2002
| Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 6:50 pm
Being on the older range of such shows, I can predict that the youngest and oldest memebers are going to handicap thier teams. With the little kids, Mom and Dad can only do so much without others helping. I really think the Balck family would have still been in it if they had done the buggy ride because of the lighter children and the difficulty of lifting and building with only 2 adults. As far as the father-in-law, the ather and daughters and the Yelly mom, their total lackof fitness will kill their team when it comes to foot races and stamina. That being said, I do not think that this show will be as taxing as usual. I really think that TAR casts people it knows it will lose and then has it's core competitors. I did notice that they disallowed 2 strong young men as partners in the regular TAR since the first 2 times they came in first.
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Rehtse
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08-17-2005
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 8:03 am
I guess I am the only one who feels this way, but here it goes: I rather enjoy hearing the sons talk to their mother the way that they do. The woman, in my opinion, deserves everything she gets. As annoying as she is, someone should be telling her that she is stupid. Why should her sons respect her when she has never earned their respect? On another note, my favorite family this week was a tie: the dad and his three daughters and the FIL and SILs. I thought it was so sweet when the FIL/SILs got to the pit stop and one of the SILs was running holding the hand of the FIL. There sure are a bunch of lucky ladies to have married guys like that.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 8:54 am
I heard Phil on a radio station this morning. He was asked about Jon. and Victoria. (The radio guy asked if Phil wanted to deck the guy.) He said his job is to stay neutral and not be a marriage counselor. Then he changed his voice and said "There's a new Dr. Phil!" and went on a bit about getting marriage counseling on TAR! (At least, I think it was Phil and not the radio guy.) It was very funny! He said "Do I make judgements about people on the show? Sure!" I didn't get the impression he was speaking directly about J and V though, more just a general statement. He talked about the plane tickets...the racers ask for 2 (or 4, for the family TAR season)tickets but are not allowed to take that flight unless there is room for the 2 crew members (1 camera person, 1 sound person). He also talked about Rob and Amber being on the plane and the plane coming back to the gate. The show was not involved in having the plane come back to the gate. He said the rule book is very thick, they actually travel with a lawyer while filming. They would not jeopardize a multi million $ franchise to get a plane to turn around. He said since 9/11 it is rare to have a plane open the doors back up but it does happen. Then he related an experience of his own where this happened during Christmastime. The pilot came on the speaker and talked about a family with a tight connection going to New Zealand. In the spirit of Christmas, he hoped the passengers wouldn't mind if he opened the door back up and waited for this family. He'd make the time up in the air. Phil said the most dangerous part of the show is the driving. All the tasks etc. are controlled and double checked for safety. He "interviews" each team on the mat for about 20-30 mins. each time. We can now see this on the cbs website, it is called Mat Chat. He said on the show of course most of it is cut. He stares every couple down when they first arrive at the mat. (They asked him if this was hard to do. He said no.) After he tells them "you're team number three" or whatever, he will laugh and joke with them. Because they don't always show that with every team, sometimes the editing makes it seems he likes certain teams better than others. Being a camera person for this show is very dangerous. However, there have only been 2 incidents and they happened to the same camera guy. It was the season with Rob and Amber when one team (the brothers?) flipped the car over.(The sound guy was injured a bit as well.) The same camera guy was injured in season 1. (I think he said season 1.) He said every time we see teams running, there is a camera guy running backwards. He said the crews are incredible. The reasons for the non elimination rounds are because they cannot have more than 11 teams because it is "just too many people" to film and edit (is what I imagine he was saying). (He ended his sentence with the above quote, though.)The season would be too short if they had an elimination every show. There were 12 teams one season and it was very hard. He said with the family show, there were 40 people "trying to mow me over" at the beginning of the race.
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Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 8:55 am
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 9:55 am
you hear that Ashton Kutcher is producing a AR-type show for next summer for the WB? It's sort of the sequel to Beauty and the Geek...It's tentatively called "Fountain of Youth" and will pair up College seniors and Senior Citizens in a race around the US (they've said while it's in the AR type format, there will be differences) http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117930212?cs=1&s=h&p=0 'Youth' to be served at WB Kutcher, Goldberg exec producing reality skein By JOSEF ADALIAN The WB is reuniting with the team behind summer success "Beauty and the Geek" for a comedic reality skein that's set to explore the generation gap. Ashton Kutcher and Jason Goldberg are exec producing the "Amazing Race"-inspired project, dubbed "Fountain of Youth." WB Entertainment prexy David Janollari has given an eight-episode order to the show, which will be produced by Kutcher and Goldberg's Katalyst shingleshingle and Fox 21. Multiple nets made a play for the show, which snagged a premium license fee from the Frog. "Fountain of Youth" will be Katalyst's third unscripted series. In addition to "Beauty," shingle produces MTV's long-running "Punk'd." Basic concept of "Fountain" has eight college seniors teaming up with eight active senior citizens on a race across the United States. Each of the young folks will be paired with one of their elders, and while speed will be important, the show's means of elimination won't be identical to that of "Race". Goldberg said "Fountain" will be similar in tone to "Beauty and the Geek" and won't simply poke fun at older folks. "This is about people learning lessons and getting out of their comfort zones," he said. "We're trying to break stereotypes. We do funny. We don't make fun." Goldberg said he and Kutcher are both fans of "Race" and that "Fountain" will in some ways be a comedic take on the CBS hit. "They set the bar," he said. "But what we love to do is comedy; that's the signature of this company." Kutcher said "Fountain" has all the hallmarks of a good reality skein. "Anytime you take people with different views of the same world it's explosive, and conflict is the breeding ground for comedy," Kutcher told Daily Variety. Janollari said he thinks "Fountain of Youth" can "deliver the same blend of poignancy and humor and heart that 'Beauty and the Geek' delivered. "It's incredibly universal and relatable," he added. Chris Potocki and Eric Evangelista brought the project to Katalyst via Fox 21. It's not yet clear what their role will be in the production of the series, or whether Katalyst and Fox 21 will bring in an outside showrunner Production on "Fountain" is expected to start by early next year.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, October 07, 2005 - 9:46 am
Here's a great interview with Phil Keoghan in the Chicago Tribune: http://tempo.typepad.com/entertainment_tv/2005/10/an_interview_wi.html An interview with Phil Keoghan of "The Amazing Race" Last Friday, Phil Keoghan, host of "The Amazing Race," did a book and DVD signing at the Borders book store on State Street. I'll have an upcoming post about that event, but first, here's a transcript of the interview I did with Keoghan after his marathon meet-and-greet with "TAR" fans. Does it ever surprise you how much fans are invested in the show? Keoghan: “It always surprises me, because to imagine that I would be in a Borders in Chicago with 150 people... . I would never have imagined in the beginning that I’d be in a bookstore selling the first season of “The Amazing Race” with “Amazing Race 8” on the way, and talking to people about the history of the race and their passion for the race. It’s sort of, like, ‘How’d that happen?’” What did you think when you heard they were going to do a family edition? Were you into the idea? Keoghan: “I wasn’t nervous, because I knew or felt that after seven seasons it would be good to do something a little different, just to mix it up a little bit. We’ve made some adjustments along the way, like the [changes to] the roadblock rule, the [addition of the] yield. It just seemed appropriate after seven seasons to change it up. And the reality is that the biggest fans of the show are families, so why not let them run the race?” It doesn’t seem as though families with younger kids are doing any worse on the race, in fact, sometimes they seem to do better. Keoghan: “It’s so cool to see them run this race. I think people have a genuine concern with these kids [running the race], but if anything, it’s the adults having to deal with crushed egos is the problem. That’s the issue.” Does it feel like it’s different from other races? Keoghan: “It’s the race that we have all come to love. The format is the same, the difference is, it’s four people, so we’ve had to make some adjustments, and there are kids.” Do you think that makes it better? Keoghan: “I don’t think that makes it better, I think that makes it different. And I think it’s an opportunity for us to speak to that core audience who love our show, the family, and maybe to bring on some new people, who are attracted by the idea of [a] family [edition]. I don’t think we’re going to put off people who love the race. They’re still getting their race. It’s just that I think maybe we’ve broadened the appeal. I think it was a smart move, especially right now, there’s a lot of talk of family [in the culture].” Is it a chance to show off North America, too? Keoghan: “Part of that was just to throw off the teams, because the teams are just expecting that they’re going to be on a plane going overseas. That was another thing we put in there. We’re always trying to change it.” But the teams travel less mileage overall, right? Keoghan: “I think in terms of the miles of the race, it might be less than the average is. But it’s not about how far they travel, it’s about what they do. Some people thought that it was just [travel within] America, it’s not just America. It’s an international show still. It’s the race. you have to have that. We’ve just mixed it up a bit.” Were you surprised they put the first season of “The Amazing Race” out on DVD -- it’s been four years since it premiered. Keoghan: “No. I think it was inevitable. We were at the tipping point with the show [in terms of popularity], but there were still so many people that hadn’t seen [the first seasons]. It’s such a long time ago, and when we came out, the ratings were nothing like what they are now. I don’t know if there’s another show that has grown like our show. It doesn’t happen.” There were quite a few nerve-wracking moments for fans in the early days, when fans thought it might not come back. Keoghan: “I can’t speak for anyone at CBS or anybody else in production, but from my point of view, I was like, ‘We need an award, or we need [something to help the show].’ Because at the end of the day, there’s a certain math that has to take place. You’ve got to have a certain number of people who watch the show to keep the show going. The show got good ratings, but they were by no means great ratings, and now we are getting great ratings. “And a lot of that is attributable to who’s attached to the project, [Jerry] Bruckheimer’s attached to the project, and a lot of that is attributable to these [Emmy] awards. "And then to me, the tipping point was Season 5. That was the season with Charla and Mirna, Chip and Kim. Over that summer, suddenly we became watercooler talk. Instead of people coming up to me and saying, ‘Aren’t you that guy from “The Great Race”?’ people would come up to me and say, ‘You’re from “The Amazing Race!”' “The difference with people recognizing me on the street was night and day. … We’ve actually got to the point now where it’s appointment viewing.” And once people start watching the show, they’re hooked. Keoghan: “That’s what I say to people. Just watch it once. If I had a dollar for every person who’s said to me, ‘I don’t watch reality television, but I watch ‘The Amazing Race,’ I would be a gazillionaire. I would venture to say I cannot remember the last day where someone didn’t say that to me.” I asked Phil what have been the most memorable moments for him from the past seven seasons of “The Amazing Race”: Charla and Mirna carrying meat in Season 5: “I’m sorry, it just doesn’t get much better than that.” Emily and Nancy trying to find a clue in an Indian marketplace in Season 1: “It was just such an amazing example of culture shock, which to me, the audience connects with, because they understand, ‘If I were there, I would be so out of my element.’” The head shaving with Uchenna and Joyce in Season 7: “It’s extremely touching. Part of what makes that so powerful is that when Brandon and Nicole were faced with the same fast-forward, they decided not to do it, and they didn’t win ‘The Amazing Race.’ I asked Brandon and Nicole, ‘What would you do for a million dollars?’ They looked at me, and I said, ‘Would you shave off your hair for a million dollars?’ They realized what I was asking them, and I said, ‘Well, clearly you wouldn’t, because you don’t know if you just gave up a million dollars.’” Speaking Uchenna and Joyce, Phil said, “I don’t think we’ve ever had more popular winners. Same with Chip and Kim.” The challenge in New Zealand, when racers rolled down a hill in a giant ball called a Zorb: “That’s a friend of mine, that’s my friend’s farm. I drove about 500 miles to find that location; they’d never taken the Zorb off-site before, so I tested it with my friend, down this hill. I just remember screaming, ‘We’ve got to get that in the show!’” In Season 5, when the Bowling Moms were doing the rock-climbing challenge, Phil wished that Christie had done that challenge instead of Colin: “That’s when I wished there had been the rule about [teammates having to do an even number of] roadblocks. Colin was doing most of the roadblocks, and I would have loved to have seen Christie go head to head with Karen [of the Bowling Moms].” John of the team John Vito and Jill eating the cheese in Season 3: “It was just funny.” Uchenna and Joyce at the orphanage in South Africa. In Season 6, Gus and Hera at the Goure Island in Africa, where slaves were shipped to the New World: “To me it’s one of the greatest moments, where the show really slowed down and was breathing. The whole show slowed down. It was extraordinary.” Do you still keep in touch with ex-racers? Keoghan: “Yeah, I’m meeting up with one tomorrow. I get e-mails from them all the time.” The online community is another huge source of “Amazing Race” fandom. Keoghan: “They’re an essential part of the support for the show. They’ve stuck with the show from the beginning. They know the show inside and out. They have just been there and stayed there. They’re certainly very opinionated about what they like and don’t like, but I really believe that they have had a major impact on keeping the show alive.” Would the producers ever license the concept to producers in other countries? Are there other versions in other countries? Keoghan: “There are other countries that are apparently planning to make their own versions. I don’t know the details of that, I’m not involved in that. To make an international version, when I go overseas, I get bombarded with people saying, ‘How come Canadians can’t be in it? How come Australians can’t be in it?’ [The show is quite popular in both countries, Phil says]. This is CBS’ show, though, so the show is made for America; it just so happens that it sells overseas.” Finally, a burning question prompted by years of watching the show: Does the show pre-book seats for contestants on various flights? Keoghan: “We do, as production [staff]; we have to cover [flights for] ourselves for production. But with teams, unless we actually tell them, ‘You have three choices: You must choose between this flight and this flight,’ where we’ve said, ‘There are three flights, the first one leaves at [such and so time, etc.],’ then we’ve pre-booked the flights. Otherwise, we’re not holding any seats for them.” So, flights may be full, and that’s that. Keoghan: “Well, that happens all the time. They have to get seats based on availability.” By the way, at one point we were chatting about the possibility of an all-star version of “The Amazing Race,” but from what Phil said, it didn’t seem like it would happen all that soon. As I recall (I didn’t get this part recorded), Phil said it was something the fans were talking about more than “Amazing Race” producers and CBS executives were. Still, it sounded like it could happen one day. Finally, “TAR: Family Edition’s” Godlewski sisters showed up at Borders but were under strict rules not to talk to the press, so they just waved, smiled and quickly backed away from me
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Saggkl
Member
07-17-2002
| Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 6:31 am
Why no banner of the teams this year?
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 2:55 pm
There's a rumor that in the next couple of weeks, they're going to be a CBS.com show on TAR like they have for BB and Survivor on Wednesdays....and one of the clowns from Race 4 is going to be hosting...
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 4:44 pm
That would be nice. It's about time TAR had an official Internet show.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 6:43 pm
I'd like to see that! It took me a second to realize what you meant when you said one of the "clowns". 
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 7:43 pm
I thought Wilson meant Team Guido at first.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:29 pm
lol... and BTW the preview for the next ep is slightly misleading....I saw the preview on AOL, and the Weavers are actually high-fiving each other at the end...let's just say it ain't what you think.
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Bbfanatic
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08-14-2000
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 9:34 am
Wow, not much on the message board this year. I am assuming many are not liking the family edition. I can not get into it at all. Too many people running around. I cant get a feel for any of the people. I didnt even rush home to watch it last night, like in previous seasons. Very Disappointed! Will skip the rest of it. Bring on the next season.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 9:47 am
BBfanatic -- most of the discussion is going on in the threads dedicated to each of the episodes.
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Bbfanatic
Member
08-14-2000
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 12:21 pm
Thanks Yankee
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Hummingbird
Member
08-21-2002
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 7:27 pm
I can't take much more of that Italian mother! What a harpy! The dad is a saint for putting up with her for all these years.
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Padivius
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08-21-2003
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 8:29 pm
The mother?! You must mean the sons! They won't give their mother a break! Though the mother is fairly annoying, it's nothing compared to the way her sons disrespect her! Whatever she's doing, she doesn't deserve what they are serving her.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 5:50 am
I think the mother is just as bad as the sons. She is passive aggressive and continues picking on the sons until the situation gets volatile. The sons have probably been living with this for their entire lives and that is what they are used to putting up with and they react the same way they are treated. Do I think they should speak to her like this? Absolutely not, but obviously that is their particular family dynamic. It just makes the rest of us very uncomfortable.
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Kep421
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08-11-2001
| Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 6:11 am
I agree that the Paolo mom is irritating...if she were my mom, I would find myself being stretched to the limit quite a bit, and I would probably roll my eyes alot and have a bit of a patronizing tone to my "yea mom" responses. BUT, it also seems to me that the mom can't say anything without the sons' giving some nasty comment. Even when she is simply expressing a view (negative or positive), the one son tells her to either shut up or make some other comment designed to belittle anything she says. It seems to me Mom Paolo doesn't realize she doesn't have to put up with their disrespect. I agree, their family dynamic makes me very uncomfortable...
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 7:50 am
Which is probably why they were cast on the race, combined with the older son's obvious love for the race...because that is what the producers seem to want. And I guess it does give us lots of fodder for discussion. Hey, at least Victoria and Jonathan make this family look tame in comparison though! And it seems to be primarily the older son - the younger son doesn't seem to be quite so vocal.
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 8:02 am
In my opinion, the mom gets what she deserves. She does not give her kids any reason to respect her. Maybe if she was not such a big baby, her kids might treat her as an adult. Instead, all she does is whine and complain about this or that. Plus her way of acting as a total know-it-all is enough to make me want to tell her to shut up!
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Hummingbird
Member
08-21-2002
| Friday, October 14, 2005 - 4:21 pm
Okay, the sons are disrespectable -- I'll concede that but Mom Paolo is the most annoying woman I've seen since Mrs. Weiser from my childhood who lived across the street and nagged her husband and son to death. This lady is Mrs. Weiser's long lost twin. I can mention her name because she has probably passed on and no one knows who I'm talking about anyway.
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