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Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    


The trash thing was a little over the top.

But the other things are part of the game...not considered mean and rude. If that were the case then by all means yeilding a team twice for no other reason to do it and knock them out of the race is mean and rude. Team Guido and Boston Rob would have made the Linz's cry were that the case.

Actually, why does there have to be anything done to the Weaver's? Attitude can be enough sometimes. Nobody likes to walk into a room and know that the room collectively doesn't like you.

But then, I haven't watched the show in three weeks...been trying to quit smoking for one week and I'm not going to watch the finale.

It's still up in the air about next season.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Does anyone hear watch the video mat chats that CBS posts online? THAT'S where the scoop is on the Weavers. I don't know if you can access back chats (and I've only watched a couple recently), but there is more info there.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 12:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Thanks for telling me about those Mat Chats, Teach! The first thing Phil says is that "The Weavers have a lot of things to say about you. They have a lot to say about everybody....They seem to have a different opinion of themselves than anyone else." LOL!

Go Phil!

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
You're welcome. :-) Phil is one of the main reasons I haven't chucked TAR completely this season!

Iheartkaysar
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08-16-2005

Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iheartkaysar a private message Print Post    
RE: the Weavers asking the ranger to stall the Linzes; if that's all they had done, yes, that is part of the game. But the ranger said, "they were talking a lot of smack about you" (I don't know if that's how you spell this type of "smack"- I'm not young and hip anymore!). That tells me they said something other than, "try to delay them as long as you can b/c we're in a race." On the other hand, the Linz family did not retaliate (that we saw). I can't think of anything said to the Weavers to justify the comments they make. Even when they confronted the teams who yielded them, the Paolos and Linzes were respectful, saying that the only reason was game play. It was the Weavers who threatened both teams, and not in a comical kind of way.

There are the pro-Weaver posters and the anti-Weaver or pro-other team posters. We'll never change one another's minds. But it's fun trying!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
FWIW, the Linzes clearly said that they thought the Weavers were right behind them. And they told the Weavers this. I'm not sure the Paolos knew how close the Weavers were behind 'em when they yielded 'em. But that was the time when the Weavers (children *and* mother) were making fun of the other teams. If I had liked them before, that would've ruined it for me. You do not make fun of a man who is performing an essential service.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 6:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
You do not make fun of a man who is performing an essential service.

Does that mean there are people it is okay to make fun of? I am teaching my son that no one should be made fun of.

Most (there are exceptions) teenagers are arrogant, Christian or not. They have not experienced enough of life yet to know better. Does that make it right? No.

I am not pro-Weaver but I am also not anti-Weaver. There have been times when they have acted less than admirably, but I am not going to judge this family just on what we've seen on TV. The reason I have defended them so strongly here is because of some of the harsh judgments made about them. If it is proven that they were horrible people - so be it. I believe even if it is shown that they were reacting to how others treated them there will still be those who said they deserved it.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 7:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
Well said, Native_texan. That is pretty much how I feel about it.

Starshine40
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07-30-2002

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Starshine40 a private message Print Post    
I agree Native Texan. Well written.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 7:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
<57> My point was, and you missed it completely... the Weavers made fun of what the Paolo father did for a living. The Weaver *teenagers* may not know better, but their *mother* ought to know better. She did nothing to stop it.

In fact, I've seen her encouraging her children to perform in less than admirable or *Christian* ways. If someone keeps throwing god in my face, I'm gonna throw it back. If someone keeps claiming they are such darned good Christians, then yes, I'm gonna hold them to a higher standard. If there was a single episode where we did NOT hear this from that family, I may give them some credit. But there hasn't been.

The judgements made are not "harsh;" they are based on what we are seeing. Knowing their (presumably) sympathetic backstory (and suspecting that's why they are on this show), do you really think the producers would allow this family to be edited in a way opposite of how they are acting?

I'm sorry, but I find this family more and more distasteful every week. I am glad this Tuesday will be the last time I see them on TV.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Costacat, ITA.

There is nothing I dislike more than hypocrisy…the Weavers are nothing if not hypocrites.

What’s worse is that they hide behind Christ, yet I haven’t seen anything close to following Christ’s vision of how he’d like his children to act, here on Earth. He certainly doesn’t condone littering or name calling or judgements on physical appearance or snickering at another person’s profession.

I’ve said it before, I don’t mind hard core gamers and I do enjoy the snark between teams but in the case of the weavers, the one element they lack, is a sense of humor or a bit of tongue in cheek. They take themselves way too seriously and invoke the name of Christ in very odd situations. I’m almost expecting Ma Weaver to pray for smooth bowel movements.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
What disturbs me about Mrs. Weaver is when her children make the tacky comments, and I know that kids do (having a 16 and 11 year old) she doesn't seem to correct them.

Also, who first started calling the sisters, the Desperate Housewives?

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 10:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
"do you really think the producers would allow this family to be edited in a way opposite of how they are acting?"
the above was from costa's post.
and i say, wow! how true that is!!? especially on a family TAR. i also think they would not have been edited in such a poor light if there had been any other light to showcase them! i can't see (even for ratings) a network wanting to hurt (or embarrass or humiliate) a family that is already hurting. i believe the producers really expected to find viewers rallying for this family at the beginning of this race.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
The editing really confuses me. Phil is always asking them about being ostrasized, the Weavers refer to being treated badly constantly, but I am just not seeing it. I have also not seen alot to show why the other teams so unanimously dislike them. It's all very puzzling.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 11:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Some people lack social skills, which I think is the case with the Weavers. Couple that with religious arrogance and mean spirited comments…well , those traits make it difficult to be well liked.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same in their real life.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I still keep in mind the Friendship and the way they were edited.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I'll leave the "editing" comments to the losing contestants ;)....like omarosa and her ilk.

Knightpatti
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12-06-2001

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Knightpatti a private message Print Post    
i have not seen this mentioned. When the cops pulled over the Weavers, Rolly hurriedly put on his seat belt. I tell my grandchildren we are not going anywhere until they put on their seat belts. THey do not like to do it, but they know they have to do it. TAR has had their share of accidents in the past, too. How old is Rolly? He should know to do it without even thinking about it. Mrs. Weaver should be enforcing this habit along time ago.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
Oh come on, NONE of the Godlewski sisters had on their seatbelts either, they just didn't get pulled over.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 2:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
When the cops pulled over the Weavers, Rolly hurriedly put on his seat belt. [...] He should know to do it without even thinking about it.

I mentioned it back then, Knightpatti; I'm glad it bothered others. I can't figure out what is worse: that the Florida family can't abide by the laws of society designed to keep others safe (i.e., speeding and throwing trash onto the highways) or that their mother don't make sure her children follow basic laws that keep them safe. It's sad indeed.

Adults, admittedly, often make the mistake of not wearing a seat belt, but it is a parent's responsibility to make sure his or her children buckle up.

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06-30-2002

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moderator a private message Print Post    
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Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 2:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Tish, I agree.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 3:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
I think I said it before but I'll say it again...the Weaver's may not be model citizens and they may be a truly terrible lot, but I still think they getting a bum wrap.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
they are getting massage therapy? cool! i want a bum wrap. maybe my bum will get smaller?
oh, bum rap. never mind

but, seriously, dear father of gorgeous kids, if you were not a model citizen and were
truly terrible, why should you expect to get something other than a bum rap?

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 4:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
okay, i do still root for the 9ers and they just lost again....41-3!
maybe the weavers are someone's 49ers?! i already have one loser team, and that's all i can emotionally afford right now, so i'll stick with the bransen or linz family!