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Azriel
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08-01-2000

Friday, October 14, 2005 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Azriel a private message Print Post    
I think that the reason the sons show their mom no respect is because the dad shows the mom no respect. The mother, in turn, shows her husband no respect. Children learn to respect their parents from seeing the respect the parents show to each other. It's no wonder at all that the sons act like they do. They will probably continue the tradition when they get married and have kids.

Karen
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09-07-2004

Friday, October 14, 2005 - 11:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
I would like to think that the way the Paolo boys would speak to their mother at something like a family BBQ would be different than the way they speak to her here on the race. I have an amazing bond with my mother, and even I can see myself getting testy with her in a situation such as TAR. Some people -- my mother for one, Ma Paolo for another -- are absolutely NOT cut out for the race, no matter how much they try to convince themselves that they can do it, if only to make their child happy. It's obvious she's only there because older son is a HUGE fan and jumped at any opportunity to run the race, be it with a single team member or his family.

No one in that family is very likeable... but I think it's easy to agree that it's Mom and Older Son who are the most abrasive. He's so hard to watch 'cause he's so frustrated that the rest of them don't love TAR as much as he does, they don't get the full impact of what this show is. Ma Paolo is frustrated 'cause she knows that in the end, she's going to let him down.

I don't like the Paolo family much either -- I wasnt' raised in a "yeller family" and don't see the benefits of treating each other that way... but yelling is still a form of communication, no?

I only hope these people learn a thing or two watching the tapes.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 5:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Wow Karen...thanks. I hadn't been able to get past the negativity in the Paolo family to realize the son was a fan, and that he is frustrated with the lack of "enthusiasm" from his family members!!

I also blocked them out after the first couple of statements, so I didn't realize it was mostly the older son who was so verbal against his mom.

Excellent post Karen, thanks for the insight!!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That was a very insightful post and I agree with it. The Mother and son are very different personalities. The son is a real fan of the show. He was the only one to recognize Kevin and Drew and he has been very polite to everyone that they have encountered during the course of the race. In contrast, his Mother doesn’t have the qualities needed for this particular type of situation. Unfortunately, this situation is the perfect platform to highlight these problems and differences. It would have been interesting to see the two brothers racing together as a team – we might have formed a very different impression of what they are like.

Nynana
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05-31-2005

Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nynana a private message Print Post    
The Paolo family bugs us a lot because of the disrespect...but the loud and overtalking, well hubby comes from a Scillian family and when everyone would get together at reunions and holidays, the aunts, uncles, cousins, just everyone, it was always so loud, and sometimes sounded angry when it wasn't at all. It was just how they were so it brings back some memories of great times...but the disrespect, that is another issue on all sides.

The family that I truly can not stand is the Schroeder family. The father on that team is just a horrible and disrespectful man. At first I thought he was just nasty to women but it isn't, he is nasty to anyone near him. I want them gone before the Paolo family.

Glad I found you all! I miss BB but having so much fun in the rest of TVCH!

Nynana
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05-31-2005

Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nynana a private message Print Post    
Question, I am on the TAR CBS web site and looking at the leaderboard. Are they only going to have 2 teams for the last 3 episodes? If so, that sux!

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race8/route/leaderboard.shtml



Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 11:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Glad you tracked us down!

I came from a family that was generally quiet and respectful (though we had a good time). So it was a bit of a shock when I started to visit at a friend’s house. His family was very outwardly emotional with lots of outbursts and yelling. But after I got used to it, it didn’t bother me a bit.

My friends sister used to come up with the darndest expressions when she was upset and the Mother picked right up on them and started using them herself (they were French Canadian and the parents weren’t fully familiar with English). I remember my friend sighing and muttering to me: “I’ve really got to tell my Mother what she is really saying!”

But while the yelling and the words might have been a bit raw, there wasn’t any real meanness behind it.

Now I agree that the Schroeder’s actions and talk on the show has been pretty ugly. I’d much rather see them go ahead of the Paolo’s.

Landi
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07-29-2002

Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landi a private message Print Post    
nynana, we have this same question EVERY season. the website is not indicitave to the show. it's not a forebearer of future episodes.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 1:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Right, Karen. And wasn't it the Paola sons (or at least one of them) who recognized the hotdog venders? They/he much are much more into TAR than anyone else.

Karen
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09-07-2004

Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 2:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
Unfortunately, this situation is the perfect platform to highlight these problems and differences.

I don't think it's unfortunate at all that their contrasting personalities are being exposed this way. Who ever gets the chance to be on the outside looking in on their own lives? That's what I meant when I said I hope these people learn something from watching the tapes... the human memory is a funny thing; it's easy to believe what you think you remember happening, even though maybe it was simply a matter of misinterpretation, or even not having a small piece of information that if you had known, would change the dynamic of the situation completely. (The Weavers and the Aiello's in the airport are a perfect example of missing information -- she was simply confused by the whole airport environment, but when the Aiello's saw Ma Weaver talking to the airline staff, they automatically assumed she was trying to garner an advantage.)

I think in hindsight the Paolo's will all walk away from this race with a newfound respect for each other. I'm not sure the family dynamic will change much -- a 'yeller' family is a 'yeller' family, and it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks. But I think the kids will watch the tapes back and realize that, "Wow. Mom sure was out of her element, there, wasn't she? That's pretty cool that she'd do that." And hopefully Ma Paolo will see in the tapes that her boys aren't little boys any more... they're grown adults (well, almost) and she can't just demand respect from them, she has to give them a reason. Respect is like a tip -- it has to be earned, not expected.


Karen
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09-07-2004

Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
BTW, Jimmer, I completely agree that it would be interesting to see just the two sons racing in a real TAR. Would have been a much different dynamic.

Imagine if we'd had to endure not just Kendra, but her Mother as well? The whole 'apple falling from the tree' thing, and all that... <shudder>.

Marej
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09-20-2002

Monday, October 17, 2005 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marej a private message Print Post    
From TV Guide.com interview with the Aiello's--
Where did you go after you were eliminated? We can't tell you where, but we went away for a few weeks. CBS took good care of us. We did some hiking, some shopping & we spent a lot of time at the pool. And we did some ziplining. Fun Stuff. And a lot of eating.
They ran the mud run 14 times. It took 2 hours. We're 4 stubborn men & it was to late to quit, cause it was a 30 mile drive back to the shrimp detour.
About the Weaver meltdown on the bus. When they showed Rebecca on TV, it looked like she was laughing, but she was really hysterically crying & complaining about the bus and smelling like shrimp, etc. I think it was just the pressure of the whole thing and exhaustion. It was a 8 hour ride.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, October 17, 2005 - 11:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Regardless of whether they did the jeep or the shrimp, at the end it all came down to who read the clue fastest and got to the Nasa thing first...last one there got the last number. If they had read it quick enough (remember, they showed them saying "Let's go over here and read it to the side") they could have probably beaten one of the other teams.

Hindsight being everything of course...LOL!

Padivius
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08-21-2003

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 7:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Padivius a private message Print Post    
Respect is like a tip -- it has to be earned, not expected.

Amen! It irks me that people think they should tip no matter what. I have absolutely no qualms in leaving a restaurant without leaving a tip if I received less than good service.

Even just average service won't garner much from me. A tip is supposed to be a reward for an excellent job done, not an expected handout in any occasion.

I say this being a banquet/restaurant server on weekends, so I know the value of a tip.

-Padi

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 8:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I'm the same way, Padivius. (And I worked as a waitress in college so I am a great tipper when I get good service.) I don't believe that bad service should be rewarded. If I get stiffed on service I'm going to stiff on a tip, or at the very least give a minimum for minimal service. In addition, I will let the management know.

However, if I see a server trying to do his or her best and overloaded with work or other difficult people I take that into consideration. Sometimes people are doing their best but your service suffers. As long as they acknowledge that there are difficulties I don't hold it against the server. (Other tables being difficult, slow kitchen service, too many tables, not enough waitstaff, etc.)

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
It is official....


http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/pr.cgi?id=20051018cbs02

Tuesday, October 18, 2005
"THE FINISH LINE: THE AMAZING RACE INTERNET TALK SHOW," HOSTED BY NEW YORK MAGAZINE CONTRIBUTING EDITOR SARAH BERNARD AND FORMER RACER JON WEISS, TO PREMIERE WEDNESDAY, OCT. 19 ON CBS.COM
Released by CBS


"THE FINISH LINE: THE AMAZING RACE INTERNET TALK SHOW," HOSTED BY NEW YORK MAGAZINE CONTRIBUTING EDITOR SARAH BERNARD AND FORMER RACER JON WEISS, TO PREMIERE WEDNESDAY, OCT. 19 ON CBS.COM

THE FINISH LINE, a new online AMAZING RACE talk show hosted by New York Magazine contributing editor Sarah Bernard and former "Amazing Race" participant Jon Weiss, will premiere Wednesday, Oct. 19 (1:00 PM, ET/10:00 AM, PT) on CBS.com, the day after the broadcast of THE AMAZING RACE: FAMILY EDITION. THE FINISH LINE is a no-charge, half-hour, streaming video weekly talk show which airs exclusively on CBS.com.

THE FINISH LINE will feature highlights from this season's family edition of THE AMAZING RACE, as well as interviews with teams the day after they've been eliminated. The show will also feature special guests from previous seasons who will offer insight into what went wrong or could have gone wrong for the latest team. In addition, AMAZING RACE fans will get a sneak preview of the following week's edition and will get the chance to call into the show and talk with their favorite teams. The call-in phone number for viewers will be (646)-CBS-1000.

Sarah Bernard is a contributing editor at New York magazine, where she writes about everything from fashion and food to real estate and family dramas. She is also a contributing editor at Elle, and has written for Harper's Bazaar, Details, Allure and Premiere. She appears frequently on television, as a pop-culture expert on CNN's "American Morning," as well as a guest commentator on VH1. She is a native New Yorker and graduated from Brown University.

Jon Weiss ("Amazing Race 4") is currently the "Host" of Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus. Weiss has traveled with them for over 20 years, performing as the "Human Cannonball" and has over 5,000 notches in his cannonball belt. He graduated from Suffolk Community College and has also studied at the Disney Institute and Clown College. He is married and has three children.

THE FINISH LINE will also be available as a podcast at the CBS Netcast section of the CBS.com website.

THE AMAZING RACE: FAMILY EDITION airs Tuesdays (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.


Abby7
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07-17-2002

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 4:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
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Delilah
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 7:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Delilah a private message Print Post    
Has anyone else spotted Brian (of brothers Brian and Greg) from TAR 7 in a Bud Light commercial?

Its the one where the guy (Brian) is recalling his memory of learning how to pour a perfect beer from an old master, like Uma in "Kill Bill."

I didn't recognize him at first but my husband knew it right away.

Wish I had a screen cap for you ...

Azriel
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Azriel a private message Print Post    
Well, I can't find where you can listen to the Finish Line podcast. :-(

March
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10-02-2003

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send March a private message Print Post    
Brian is also dating Jenn from Survivor Palau.


Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
Thank you Delilah! My daughter was telling me about it last week, and I promised her that I would ask if anyone else had seen it...but I kept forgetting. No one had mentioned it, so I was beginning to think that she was mistaken.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 11:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Is that the Jenn that just had breast cancer?

Marej
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09-20-2002

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marej a private message Print Post    
Yes

Spear
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08-06-2001

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 11:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
Here are links to video clips of today's "Finish Line" Internet show:

Part1
Part2
Part3

Future shows should be accessible by changing the date portion of the URL.

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 3:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
Thank you Spear. I enjoyed watching the video clips. I think this interview was better than the Housecalls.