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Tabbyking
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03-11-2002
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 12:48 pm
for me, being Christian, or not, has nothing, not one thing, to do with what i feel about the weaver family...i just find them annoying. like i found the guidos annoying or the wil-tara duo annoying. i think if this was not a 'family' edition, and only the mom and one kid were competing, they might 'fit in' more with other 2-person all-adult teams. they just seem mean-spirited to me. and i'm not saying i love any of the remaining teams, i just find the weavers way down the line. as far as the grand canyon, it's my (so-far) most favorite place in the U.S. i went three times in my early teens on the way to a dude ranch in southeastern AZ. i spent two or three full days each time just standing in front of it and feeling awestruck. i have been a lot of other places since then and live 2 hours from yosemite, but the grand canyon just literally takes my breath away! i don't know the rules now, but when i was a kid, and we wanted to hike part-way down the switchback trails, the mules had the right-of-way. if you had to pass one, you stood on the outside edge of the trail and they got to hug the mountainside! scared the heck out of me. i remember, too, being told to stay only on the switchbacks and not try to cut a corner. it may be only feet down from where you were to the next level, but one slip and you would careen down to the bottom. the most beautiful sight in the world to me was standing at the grand canyon with a full moon overhead. wow!! i hope some of the teams can go back one day when they have more than 15 seconds to see this wonder of the world. once we get moved to our new place, and can actually take a little motorhome trip once in a while, the grand canyon is high on my list of 'must sees'!
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Stopjustwatchin
Member
08-19-2005
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 1:04 pm
I stand by my belief that the dislike (or at least mine) for the Weavers is not because they are Christians or are so open about it. It's mainly because they have such a difficulty taking any "hatred" (using that term loosely) directed at them, but 5 minutes later have no problem dishing it out. I would have the same feeling for them whether they were open about their faith or not. They have some serious issues - and not just with their father's/husband's death. I'm just not sure from where their issues stem. Just have fun, girls - get in the game - stop focusing on 3 vs. 1 (now). If I could see any of their behavior in a teasing manner, I'd probably like them more; but I seriously can't stand the way they act -- Christian or not.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 1:31 pm
Thanks Tabby for that post! I would love to see the Grand Canyon. It is on my 'to do list. I don't like two of the screaming sisters who bicker about everything. At this point, I want the Linz family to win.
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Justfun
Member
11-08-2005
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 1:39 pm
I have absolutely no problem with the Weaver's religion. It is the fact that they openly complain about the other teams' behavior when theirs is not much better. Yet they claim BECAUSE they are Christians, they don't act that way. I also have no problem with general game play...like telling the toll booth (or whatever he was) to stall the next team. We've seen that happen in many seasons. However, I don't think the Weavers would be able to take it and would complain about how unfair it is. Editing is always a factor. We see such a small portion of what actually happens. I do find it interesting that so many teams (eliminated and still the ones still racing) dislike the Weavers, which leads me to believe there is something more going on. As I posted before, I hope when the season ends we will get more information. I feel for the Weaver family that they lost their father/husband. I am fortunate enough that I still have my father. However, don't they think that their father/husband would want them to be happy and enjoy life? Would he want them to be miserable and scared? I understand that race tracks wouldn't be a place for them to party, but it was something their father/husband obviously loved...maybe they should look at it from that point of view. As far as one of the sisters voicing her concern, maybe that was hypocritical of her compared to her past behavior. However, people can not care for each other but still have compassion when it comes to a difficult situation. I've experience that in my life. It doesn't mean you like people more or less, you just can relate trying to get through a difficult situation. I thought the concern seemed real...she didn't have to approach the kids and say anything at all. Sorry to ramble...just my thoughts. Isn't it interesting that when the race started how many posters and teams disliked the Paolos?
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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 1:42 pm
I might be having a senior moment but didn't one of the Linz stick a naked butt out of their car window? When I was a teen I had that happen to me and I was so shocked that I nearly ran off the road. I think that was worse than any food thrown out of the window.
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Justfun
Member
11-08-2005
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 1:45 pm
That was one of the Bransen girls...they mooned the Linz family.
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 1:47 pm
When we left the military after being stationed in San Diego, we headed back home to Upper Michigan. I pretty much figured that once hubby got his feet back to his roots, I'd never get him to leave again. So when I planned the route we would take, I planned it so that we would see as much as possible. Hubby, who couldn't wait to get back home...was not exactly pleased...but he loves me...so he went along with my plan. I especially wanted to see the Grand Canyon. Others are so right when they say that pictures do not do it justice. It is so enormous. I tried to imagine what it must have been like to discover it like some folks did, without ever knowing it existed. It had to have been mind blowing. I didn't realize how impressed my husband was until days later. As we were rounding a bend in the road where Mt. Rushmore was about to come into view, Hubby turns to me and says, "If this is anything like the Grand Canyon...these are going to be some awfully big heads!!" The memory of the Grand Canyon remains with us all these years later. Even hubby remarked the other night during the Amazing Race, how great it was to have been there.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 1:48 pm
I think I should just cut and past Stopwatchins's and Justfun's posts cause that's exactly how I feel! this is an excerpt from an interview with the Schroeders about the Weavers. this isn't the first time i have read about their behavior during pit stops..makes you go hmmmmm.. And, as for the enigmatic Weavers, who initially appeared heroically brave and deserving of our praise for persevering through a grisly loss, soon seem almost universally scorned. All the Schroeders, including Hunter, had harsh words for them. What gives? Who are these Weaver people?! "Every single family agreed..." says Stassi. "They were so rude to families especially during Pit Stops. You would ask them questions, they wouldn't answer; stare at us blank in the face; walk away. That was how they were. And then they would come up and try to be our friends, like, Hey! What's going on? and I was like, Are you kidding me? And then they would go up to other teams and say, 'You know what? I have a proposition for you, you know, I want to be allies with you.' This after they were so rude to them! "I mean, when we came into the trailer park, they were screaming to the Godlewskis, 'Don't you dare help them! Don't help them! We hate them!' And then they came up to us right after, 'How was your day? Were you OK? How are you?' It's just extremely fake and hypocritical, and I'm all for playing the game — I think you should. So I'm for being aggressive in the Race. It's just that there's ways to go about things and they didn't play with integrity. And I can tell you that every chance they got they would break the rules. I'm not kidding. They would cut us off, we almost got into car accidents with them; when we were being yelled at for going, like, five miles over the speed limit... I mean, no one appreciated the way they were acting or playing the game." "Initially I got along great with the girls, I was always talking with them, you know. And they were very nice to me. It was just like in the second leg something snapped and it's like the mom put a chain on each and every one of them and pulled them aside and said, 'Listen. This is what you have to do.' And it was like something just changed all of a sudden. "And another thing, I mean, they complained 24/7 and cried about how they wanted to go home, they hated the Race, WHY were they doing this... when all of my family and I wanted to do was just continue... And for us to get out knowing that we wanted it so bad and have them [the Weavers] sit there and watch us be eliminated — and not even care — it was heartbreaking." Mark Schroeder concurs earnestly: "That's our problem with the Weavers. We had our whole heart and soul invested in this and we had to listen to them whining and crying and complaining about not wanting to be there... it made us insane." "I have a ton of respect for the Weavers for getting through what they did," continues Stassi, almost subdued. "If I were in their situation, I don't know if I would have been able to go through that. And that's another reason I was so upset because I'm glad for them for being able to succeed and to get through what they did. And now they probably think we're just the devil! Honestly, it did look like we were really big and if I were them I'd be extremely upset. And I wish I could just get a hold of them and get in touch with them, it's just... I wouldn't know what to say." http://www.realityreel.com/index.php?file=article&sid=1530&page=4&POSTNUKESID=1a33ce20a1e275b14557fc593f6c1bdb
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 1:59 pm
I get frightened by air acrobatics -- one of the worst things you could do is take me to an air show, and I found that I actually couldn't watch this part of the show -- I went into the bathroom and tidied up my counter, where I could HEAR the TV, but where I didn't have to WATCH it. Weird. While I shared in Ma Paolo's sentiment -- "Arizona? I want to go to New Zealand!" -- I agree that the scenery and locales were completely stunning. I'm glad they went there. I've never been there myself...
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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 2:02 pm
Marysfan, that is why we enjoy TAR so much. We have been fortunate in having traveled so much and it is exciting to see the foreign places again. I can even remember the smell and how hot or humid it was when we were there. (The reason we have traveled so much is because of my itchy feet. Instead of a new couch etc I would convince my husband I just had to see the Pyramids for example. I was lucky because he wanted to see them too. I am glad we went while I still had my health.)
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 2:04 pm
Oh,and I, too, could have written the same thing as in Justfun and Stopwatchin's posts.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 2:13 pm
Once again, RealityBlurred gives a great recap! The Amazingly Lame Race 8 returns to the US during a supersized episode It’s time for another edition of Hysterically Ridiculous Things The Amazing Race 8 Teams Said, brought to you this week by my sorrow over the Gaghan family eliminations. My heart’s not in it, but it’s God will for me to continue. “Daddy can swim. He takes his time,” Marion Paolo said about her husband. Taking your time: Always a good skill to have when racing around the world. Another good skill: Not dying. “Dad, don’t drown. Come on!” one of the Paolo kids screamed as their dad clung onto a buoy, screaming for rescue swimmers. “All right, you guys. No peeing, for two and a half hours,” the youngest Linz boy said after learning how long the cab ride would be. It’s greater to be hated for who you are than loved for who you’re not. We’re being ourselves and we’re being hated for it. Why make these buddy-buddy friends? No, we’re competitors.” Who said it? A Weaver, of course. “Thank you, Jesus,” mom Weaver said after her son successfully swam to and from a buoy. “Dear God, maybe we’re going to catch them,” she said 30 seconds later. Pick a deity and stick with Him. Christ. “I’ll have more muscles than I have brains in my head when I’m done with this race,” mom Paolo said when her family decided to lift a ton of sugar cane instead of painting a wheel. Finally, a Weaver said something that I wanted to hear: “We’re in last place.” “Am I in hell?” Brian Paolo asked as his parents began singing in Italian as they rode atop some sugar cane. “Teams must now fly to Phoenix, Arizona … and travel 14 miles,” Phil said, returning the race to suckitude once again. Next season, let’s just have the race at Epcot in the World Showcase area, okay? “What the hell are we going to Phoenix, Arizona, for? I want to go to New Zealand!” Marion Paolo said, instantly endearing herself to me. DJ Paolo said something about not messing with a good thing, and his brother said to him, “Well, then, we shouldn’t mess with you, because you’re a bad thing.” Then, with an incredibly remorseful expression on his face, recanted. “I’m kidding, I’m sorry. That was bad humor.” The Weavers cornered DJ Paolo and demanded to know why they were Yielded. DJ said, “We were definitively trying to knock a team out.” All four of them opened their mouths into huge O-shapes and said “Ooh!”, in approximately the same horrified way that they would have if he’d said, “I’m a gay vegan pagan atheist Democrat abolitionist.” After offering to “be friends,” mom Weaver threatened DJ while blinking violently: “Well you don’t have any Yields left, and we do, sweets.” Very Christ-like. Marion Paolo flipped out at DJ: “I hope to God you never get married, D, I really do. Because nobody would put up with your nonsense. I don’t know why your father just doesn’t knock your thin head off your shoulders.” Phil tried valiantly to make the Roadblock sound intense: He said, “Then, they’ll have to complete a grueling 50 lap race in sweltering heat to receive their next clue,” but all the adjectives in the world couldn’t change the fact that all they had to do was drive a go-cart. “What state are we in again?” Linda Weaver asked. Phoenix, sweets. The Weavers had to do yet another racetrack task. I was feeling compassionate and was going to not write anything—until they started being again. “Your dad would be proud of you guys. Just think about that,” one of the Godlewski sisters told Rebecca Weaver. Moments later Rebecca said, “I hate the desperate housewives. They’re just so annoying, and they lie.” Incapable of letting five minutes pass without trashing another team, the Weavers pointed out a garbage truck and asked if the Paolos were inside it. And then they made fun of the garbage truck driver, who they didn’t even know, calling him “Arizona’s finest.” The irony, of course, is that those four will probably never do anything as valuable and important as that garbage man does every day. Tragically, Phil said something that I didn’t want to hear about the Weavers: “Weaver family, you’re team number two.” The Paolos, unable to count the cars at the pit stop, started putting on additional clothes, until the Bransen family drove up and the Paolos realized they weren’t in last place. Mom Paolo ended up on the mat with some panties on over her pants, and dad Paolo hugged Phil wearing tighty-whities over his shorts. Oh no, a second episode. Another hour of this? Why, Phil, why? Oh, right, it’s sweeps. Warning: I’m only transcribing the best things from this point on, because I already used up all of my ability to care. I don’t roll with the punches. I punch,” a Linz twit said. Older men are not a real turn-on for people to open their pocketbooks, so I just try to keep a nice distance,” Wally Bransen said as his daughters begged for money. The Roadblock actually seemed dangerous, as they went up in stunt planes and performed maneuvers that involved the plane spinning out of control toward Earth. They’re throwing garbage,” a Godlewski said as they drove past the Weavers, which had prompted a Weaver girl to hurl food or something else out their SUV’s window. Was Jesus a litterer? A park ranger told the Linzs that the Weavers were “talking a whole lot of smack” about them. Even people who’ve known the Weavers for mere seconds think they’re jerks. Bailing water out of a boat at the Detour, DJ said to his mom, “Ma, this is a big river. I can drown you here and no one would find your body.” Talking about the Godlewski sisters, who came in third place, one of the Linz boys said, in the most lascivious way possible, “Maybe they’ll be nice and treat us to one of their prizes afterwards.” “Those people are, like, classless,” one of the Weaver girls said. Then she burst into tears and admitted what really upset them: they’re the only team “trying to live a Christian life,” and the other teams “cuss.” Well, ’-a. The Paolos were eliminated from the race, which perhaps was predictable, since Stassi Schroeder’s been posting pictures of herself with the Paolos on her MySpace (in addition to photos of a shirtless Brock); they probably all became friends at loser island. For a family that fights so much, and for us to still be together, there’s no greater bond than love,” Marion Paolo said. http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/the_amazing_race_8/2005_Nov_09_paolos_out
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 3:24 pm
quote:“Thank you, Jesus,” mom Weaver said after her son successfully swam to and from a buoy. “Dear God, maybe we’re going to catch them,” she said 30 seconds later. Pick a deity and stick with Him. Christ.
In many Christian denominations, God and Jesus are seen as one and the same. Not to get into a theological debate, but there are denominations that believe even the bible itself states that Jesus was God become flesh. So that comment was unnecessary. I still think that to much emphasis are put on teenage girls being teenage girls who might feel as though you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Rolly doesn't seem to get the editing that the girls do, again, another example of the producer's biases. I find it hard to believe that a team trying to win the race the way they know how can create so much animosity. So they're not social people, their "hypocrit's", their rude...their trying to win a race.
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 3:46 pm
quote: “Thank you, Jesus,” mom Weaver said after her son successfully swam to and from a buoy. “Dear God, maybe we’re going to catch them,” she said 30 seconds later. Pick a deity and stick with Him. Christ. i took the entire comment as a joke. IMO, that's why the author said, "Christ" at the end. just to show there was another same-meaning name.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 3:59 pm
Auntiemike: quote:My question for the day: When the Godlewski gals tried to "comfort" the Weaver girl, why is no one saying that was hypocritical? It seems that it is alright for the other teams to "hate" the Weavers (a very un Christian-like behavior, by the way) yet people seem to think that is justified. Come on, hating others is never very pretty nor pleasant.
Because I didn't think it was hypocrital of the Godlewski sister to say anything. There was even tape of them talking about how bad they feel for the Weavers *before* the one sister went over to talk to them. As to the "they are just children" comments to excuse the objects being thrown from a window. Um, no they are not just children. The two girls really ought to know better. As to the mother... she may not encourage their behavior, but she sure isn't discouraging it. And she sure is not setting a very good example. Whether it's editing or not, I just don't like these people. And that bit at the pit stop just made me sick. If that wasn't a pity party, I don't know what is. (That was to whomever denied there were pity parties.) I can't believe they are already back in the States. Yawn. (And before you smack me, yes, the Grand Canyon is one of the seven wonders of the world and is truly awesome. And I've seen it about a 100 times, and floated down the Colorado River on a tube. And schlepped around the dam, and houseboated on the lake. Yawn.) HOWEVER, I would so have loved that roadblock in the aerobatic planes. Give me the controls, dude, I'll do a loop de loop! I seriously have no fear for that, and would've thought it would've been a total blast! Even the beginning, when the pilots were showing off their bag o' tricks! Too fun! Jealous!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 4:00 pm
And Tabby... tongue in cheek here (and yes, I thought that was a joke, too)... Dear God, Jesus, Christ, the holy ghost or whomever... please be sure that next time it's an elimination leg and the Weavers are the last to arrive. Thank you God, Jesus, and Christ. <BIG grin>
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 4:10 pm
Yep, I took it as a joke too. Costacat, ITA.
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Stopjustwatchin
Member
08-19-2005
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 4:56 pm
LOL...man, I love Realityblurred. That was great. Satirical, of course, but still great! I'll join Tabby, Costa, and Tex on the "I took it as a joke" bandwagon.
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Kiersten_love
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 5:05 pm
HELP!!!! I taped the wrong channel last night..does anyone have it uploaded anywhere so I can see last night;s show??? Thanks all
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 5:16 pm
I guess I put to much thought into it...or not enough. ::deep breaths:: Yeah, after reading it again..yadda,yadda...so sue me. :D Alright, to get onto something else...last night when they showed the preview for the "Finishline" show...they had the Paolo's plastered on the screen, as if to say they would be on the show due to elimination. I think this is like the second or third time they've done that. I think they did it with the Schroeder's, as well. Are they intentionally trying to give away who's eliminated or were they just sloppy? ::sighs:: is this season over yet? Let's get them back in strange territory where they can crack on the locals and drag them around.
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 6:47 pm
i haven't seen any commercials which have ruined the ending for me, thank ALA, but i would be ticked if i did. as to whether they are doing this on purpose or are just stupid, could be both. no way i'd sue ya, nicky....i love you and the gorgeous gals at your house!
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 7:09 pm
Thanks, Tabby :D This is kinda weird for me, I'm usually with the majority and being in the minority, I was finding rather fun and refreshing...but then I got cocky and started looking for a fight....heheheh.
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 8:12 pm
As far as the Finish Line interview goes, I'm not going to put a lot of credence into what Mrs. 'Shut your piehole' Shroeder and her family have to say. I do think it's significant that she says in the second leg something snapped - the leg that the Weavers first won. Maybe it was the other teams snapping and not the Weavers? It seems to me that when she pulled her stepson away from Rolly she was doing the very thing she accuses Mrs. Weaver of doing. That is one of those things that make you go hmmmmm. Maybe Mrs. Weaver was just reacting to the rebuff that Mrs. Shroeder gave to Rolly? To expand on my theory that the other teams disliked the Weavers from the start because they did so well in the first two legs, I have another observation. It's clear that people hate the Weavers. It also seems to me that even though the Godlewskis are tolerated by the 'In crowd', they are still not a part of it, because the other racers quite frequently make disparaging comments about the sisters. Both the Weavers and the Godlewskis do not have an adult male on their team. I think that the adult male team members bonded at pit stops and the Weavers and Godlewskis were subsequently left on the outside. I'm not saying they were left out on purpose. I'm just saying that they didn't have the advantage of having an adult male that could shoot the breeze and get friendly with the rest of the men.
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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 8:19 pm
I agree with Azriel.
See..Conservatives and Liberals can agree on any number of issues!
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 8:21 pm
I thought the first show on Tues. was the funniest show ever.
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