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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 11:30 am
oh, costa, that used to bug me so much--all those strips being ripped and tossed like trash. i used to 'wince'!
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 11:33 am
I think that showing them eating and the comments was simply to show that they had given up and were prepared to finish last and leave the race. That is why they stopped for food - they just didn't care. That kind of attitude is kind of a slap in the face to the Producers and people who applied but didn't get on the show.
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Landi
Member
07-29-2002
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 11:37 am
that's it jimmer! what has been bugging me about the weavers the whole show. i know as a family who applied and made it to the semifinals, we WANTED to be on the show. we love the show and feel that the weavers have slapped people like us in the face. it's like they don't care about what the race means or what it's about. so WHAT if you're in the united states alot. learn about it, enjoy it, relish in its beauty! i know MY FAMILY sure would have!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 11:37 am
Jimmer's got it right. I was amazed they would stop at McDonald's before they go to the yield. That to me, showed that they totally gave up.
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 11:40 am
No one has commented on the bratty behavior of the Weaver boy and how he gets a pass if not an attaboy. Wasn't it Rollie in the very first episode, who jumped out of the car, ran up and snatched the clue out of the hand of the person who was at the time in the process of handing it to one of the other teams. He got praise for that. But if that were me that he snatched it away from ...he isn't going to score any points from me...fair or not...it was just plain rude. And how about in this episode where they come upon some bike riders, and Rollie shouts at them something like "You aren't no Lance Armstrong!" Again...very rude behavior. They are complete strangers...why would you shout something rude at them? I also noticed that one of the daughters is very adept at using tears as manipulation. I've seen her tear up several times...so then mom has to step up and do the task. Has anyone counted how many times either mom or Rollie has done the challenges...and how few times the girls have been involved. Unless all four are required, the girls are real quick to volunteer Rollie. I guess mom forgot about that time at the airport when one of the Linz family asked her a question, and she wouldn't even acknowledge him. I find it amazing that these people behave in a very unlikeable manne,r and then bemoan the fact that nobody likes them.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 11:42 am
Me, too, Tabby. That used to just drive me nuts! Which is why I noticed when the racers STOPPED dropping the tear strips any old place. Landi, I didn't realize you'd made it that far. So yeah, I'd be really tweaked, too, if it looked like a team just didn't want to be there. And the Weavers, who really are quite ignorant about the United States, aren't even trying to learn anything about where they are. Or trying to enjoy the places they've been. Heck, I'd be willing to bet that if it weren't for this experience, they'd never leave Florida! Jimmer, that was why I was kinda appalled at the pep talk Phil gave the Weavers at the pit stop. The second pep talk in a row, IIRC. I mean, here's a team that obviously wants to go home. Let 'em go, and let the rest of the teams enjoy the race! <sigh>
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 11:42 am
"And Native, *if* the mom had done something other than sit and smile, I'm sure the cameras would've been on them and we'd have seen it. " Where would the fun and controversy be in that? Oh, last night I was surprised to see Bart the Bear because I knew he died a few years ago. I did some searching and found that the original Bart died in 2000. This Bart, who was born in 2000, is owned by the same people but is not related to the original Bart.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 11:47 am
Oh crud. How could I forget! I loved Bart the Bear! And it was cool to watch him doing his thing, although most of the teams managed to miss his little wave at the end (as they were reading the clue). Bart is one BIG OLE bear, isn't he? Even if he is Bart II. Native, I meant, since they were doing something illegal and since they were the kids and the mother was in the car, I would expect the producers would show that the mother actually had control of the kids, and was teaching them right from wrong. Because I didn't find the trash throwing incident fun at all. In fact, I thought it was pretty rude. I think we must agree to disagree. I really doubt that segment was "edited" to leave out a parental control.
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Landi
Member
07-29-2002
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 11:55 am
yeah costa, we ended up spending 2 days in santa monica back in the spring getting videotaped and interviewed by the producers. they really liked holly and i, and thought if she was a little older we would make a good duo team. funny, i noticed noone from the west coast made the cut at all! and they had done the east and midwest semi's before us. so obviously they had found the people they were looking for.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 12:01 pm
I feel sorry for the Weavers because they really seem to have no clue. It seems that this family is just a negative family for whatever reason. Rolly disappointed me with his "yeah, you wish you were Lance Armstrong" comment to the bikers. After he said that, he looked to his family for reaction and the sister looked embarrassed so maybe there is hope. When mom Weaver said that it was against their beliefs to be treated that way, I thought, well what are your beliefs on how to treat others? I know she must be a mess inside and I sincerely hope she heals. I'm enjoying this TAR because I don't care who wins. If the Weavers win, I won't be anymore disappointed than if the sisters win.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 12:08 pm
Costa, you could be quite right in which case the mom definitely missed the boat. I've seen enough interviews with RealTV players who have indicated that events were shown way out of order or that something that appeared to be quick actually took hours, etc., to know that things aren't always as the seem.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 12:24 pm
I heard Phil say the one team had production problems and were given a new car but I missed the end. Did they give them extra time at the end of the lag to make up for production error??
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 12:29 pm
Pamy, they haven't said anything yet about a time credit. I'm guessing that we'll hear about it at the beginning of the next leg. Which is probably why they inserted that little bit about the battery draining and the Godlewskis now being in last place.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 12:53 pm
I was thinking it would be a better idea to stop everyone if there is a prod problem. All the camera ppl can communicate with each other, so why not tell everyone to stop the teams til prob is fixed?
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 1:28 pm
Marysafan and Denecee, ITA! I mentioned before I wondered how they felt about how THEY should treat others. All they do is whine about how THEY are treated. To me, being a Christian, influences how I treat others and how I manage my life. I wanted to comment on the Rolly - Lance Armstrong comment, too. Karma that they ended up on bikes they had trouble riding!! Were they the family that knocked all the things down in the store going to get their clue in the first leg and just took off or do I have them mixed up with the Shroedoers? I think it was one of them. Anyway... there's just something about the way the Weavers act that has an effect on how you feel and it isn't good - at least for me. All the negativity makes me feel negative!
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 2:01 pm
it was the weavers who knocked the display over and left it. it was rolly who called the gaghans 'rugrats'. on the gaghan interview i didn't read it as no one liked the weavers BECAUSE they didn't join in at that first pit stop; they didn't like that they DIDN'T join in and then treated everyone so bad. i think the weavers had every opportunity to be part of the larger group. some people just are loners. i don't think they think of themselves as loners, they just don't know how to interract. they seem to have isolated themselves. they are the only ones who can change that. i know they had a great tragedy. a lot of you on tvch remember when my brother-in-law died sky diving a couple of years back. my sister and their kids were devastated, as we all were, but my sister kept things together, planned a beautiful service, took her 8th graders to washington the next week as planned, and continued on with the life bill would have wanted her to have. sure, she has her down times and holidays are especially hard, but i know if my sister were on TAR, she would be mingling and likeable and having the time of her life. you can't sink in a quagmire forever and take your kids down with you. you can still mourn and miss someone and have a good life.
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 2:22 pm
I also thought it was great Karma when they got lost...evidently Utah bites back.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 2:35 pm
As much as the Weavers bother me and as much as I am totally confused by the editing, I think it's important to remember that all people grieve differently and there is no 'right' way to grieve.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 2:39 pm
Utah spelled backwards (almost) spells HATE-U!
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Karen
Member
09-07-2004
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 2:39 pm
HOLY Weaver hate, Batman! I don't even know where to start. First and foremost, this family was absolutey NOT ready for TAR, with respect to their fathers' passing. I think this family would have had a fantastic oppportunity to grow and accept their new lives without Pa Weaver, unfortunately, they were still to blinded by their grief to be able to find a silver lining in the race. Secondly, this family has a lot to learn about what 'morally right' means. I don't mean this as any offence to anyone, so please dont' attack me for disregarding your diety. Religion of any form, is, in my opinion, a crutch, a way to justify your day to day actions by telling yourself that as long as your God says it's OK, go ahead. That said, the Weavers have a very misinterpreted vision of what being a good Christian means -- the whole 'give unto others' and 'reap what you sow' seems completely lost on this team. I didn't notice an outright comment about Mormons -- just the "Utah is ugly, God must have spent less time on this place." I did, however, notice the look of sheer disgust on the daughter's face when Ma Weaver mentioned that Mormons live in Utah -- she had a look on her face as though now that she knew this, she expected every creatrue she encountered in the desert to be the devil incarnate. They have segregated themselves from the very beginning, by proclaiming themselves holier-than-thou and insisting they needed no help or friendship from other teams. Go figure that now that this separation from the other teams is being reciprocated, they're crying foul that everyone hates them. Well, guess what. You can't slap a huge, "DO NOT DISTURB" sticker on yourself and then moan and complain that you're being left alone. As with everything in life, making friends is a two way street -- try just a little bit of give and you'll be surprised at what you recieve. I appreciate that this family has quite a story... but we all have stories. Get over yourselves, Weavers. It must be exhausting being so negative all the time.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 2:50 pm
from reality blurred...... Weaver family not eliminated on The Amazing Race's 100th episode The 100th episode of The Amazing Race tragically arrived in the middle of the worst season yet, The Amazing Race 8. But it was almost a magical episode, because the Weaver family was almost eliminated after they had a meltdown. It became obvious about halfway through he episode that they were going home, with more foreshadowing than we’ve ever had. But, damn the editors, it was another non-elimination leg. The Weavers will be back next week, which is at least good for comedy, although to be honest, they’re exhausting to watch. In any case, here’s the rundown of this week’s most memorable quotes, and bitchy comments about them: “I think she has a quota every day, words that she has to come out of her mouth. It’s like, you know, shut up,” Michelle Godlewski said about her sister Chris, and I realized then that I don’t know any of their names; they’re just one big shrieking blur. “The world we live in is obviously not loving and kind, so I think we’re just sticking out because we’re not as, like, crude,” the slightly more round Weaver girl said. Her mother nodded vociferously. “Mmm hmm. It’s just so against our beliefs just to keep being treated so rudely, but we can’t let it bother us,” she said. She’s even a hypocrite when she makes no sense. “Go slow, crank it hard,” Chris Godlewski said while helping her sister turn an SUV towing a camper. “We’re neutral. Kind of like Switzerland,” Wally Bransen dorkily said of his family’s role in the conflict between the other three teams. “It’s like hundreds of thousands of miles of nothing at all.God must have spent a little less time on this state,” Rolly Weaver said of Utah. Someone needs to stop using the Bible for geography lessons (hundreds of thousands of miles?). The Linzes started making fun of the Weavers: “The Wicked Witch of the East and her three little monkeys,” one said, while another imitated Mom Weaver: “Those Linzes are just nasty.” One of the boys also said, “Someone’s gonna come and drop a house on her head.” “Isn’t it easier navigating in the US?” one of the Godlewskis asked. Easier, sure, but this is The Amazing Race, not a road trip with your sisters. As their brother Tommy started the Detour and rappelled into a canyon, one of his brother said, “If we lose a teammate, it’ll be him. But we’ll turn around and do the bikes.” The Weavers had a conversation about Utah. “I’ve never even heard one thing about Utah,” one girl said. “I have,” her mom replied. “What?” “Mormons live here.” “For real?” “Uh huh. Utah’s the Mormon state.” “No wonder!” “I don’t think Lance Armstrong could make it through this,” a Weaver girl said of the dirt they were biking through. “I hate Utah! I hate it with a passion.” I’ve lost all my energy to point out their stupidity and hypocrisy. Phil’s voice suddenly appeared, and he told us, “Due to a production error involving the camera equipment, the Godlewskis car battery was drained. A replacement vehicle was provided, but they have fallen into last place.” He didn’t say that they’d be given credit for the time, though, which is very odd, since normally production delays always result in time credits. “Drive yourselves to…” Rolly said, and then shrugged his shoulders as his mom ripped the clue from his hands and finished reading it herself. The Weavers discussed the fact that the other teams shun them. “I don’t really understand it,” Mom Weaver said. One of her daughters said, “We’re not going to be rude, but we’re just going to be our team.” Um, rude is exactly what your team is. As his family admired a waterfall and the natural beauty, one of the Linz boys said, “I’d love to be fly fishing right now.” Because the best way to appreciate the wilderness is to trick it into stabbing itself in the mouth with fake food and then suffocating it. The Weavers saw the Linzes as they drove past them, and they all screamed “duck!” and ducked down. Then they got upset because “they weren’t even lookin’!” Yeah, I just don’t really understand it, either. As they drove past two bikers, Rolly Weaver yelled out the open window, “You wish you were Lance Armstrong.” The Weavers all giggled. I hate them. “Now we have to go sit through a yield,” one of the Weavers said, and she was right: the Linzes yielded them, meaning they were yielded two out of a possible two times on the race. The Roadblock, skiing down a 60-foot ramp into a pool of water, was actually cool, especially when Nick Linz smacked into the water. “Face plant!” his sister screamed. “I wonder what Florida is doing right now,” a Godlewski said. “I hope it’s elimination,” another said. As they drove slowly down a winding, scenic rode that they took thinking it’d be a shortcut, Mom Weaver said, “Just accept it, okay? We’ll be last today. We’re done, we’re done. We’ll be eliminated.” Then one of her daughters prayed solemnly, “God, I can’t believe this.” One of the Weaver girls said, “We’re already the last nice family, and we’re gone. The people who win will probably spend it on a new nose and bigger boobs.” Suggestion: Use your consolation prize to get your hypocrisy removed and to get a personality transplant. The Weavers stopped for McDonalds, and sat underneath the Yield eating McFlurries and Big Macs. In that moment, I felt sorry for them, for real. “No prizes,” Phil told the first-place Linz team. “Just kidding!” he said. “I just want to be eliminated,” one Weaver said. “I do, too,” her mom said, and the other sister agreed. Then Phil said this was a non-elimination leg. “And I would have to say, that is the most un-enthusiastic reaction to a non-elimination in the history of The Amazing Race.” “I don’t see, like, a real hunger in your eyes to, like, win this thing. … But you came in today, and it’s almost just like you’re ready to just pack it in,” Phil said, encouraging them to continue rather than encouraging them to quit. Phil’s a dick. “We’re not ready to stop now. We’re ready to win,” Mom Weaver said. And we’re ready to bash our skulls in with our remotes if that happens article
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Stopjustwatchin
Member
08-19-2005
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 2:52 pm
OK, I know I'm way behind, but I finally got a chance to get here today..so, time to play catchup... Liz and Tabby (and most everyone else), I'm with you the whole way! The Linz' sarcasm is fun, the Weavers' bad attitude is getting really hard to handle. well glad to see I'm not the only one tired of the Weavers and their "holier-than-thou" and "poor me" attitude. It reminds me so much of the "friendship". Luv, Their actually making the friendship look good. <insert shock face here> There better not be something to bunch them back up on the next leg. Money will be a difficult task for them. We're already starting to see the girls rubbing off on Rolly. of course they are totally respectful and friendly to all people who are willing to help them. Its when people don't do what the Weavers want that problems arise. That about sums it up for me. Well said, Kep. Personally, I think the others may have started the isolation when the Weavers didn't "socialize" at the end of the first leg, but I also think the Weavers have fueled it since then by not making attempts to mend fences. If they had tried to befriend some others, say the next day, it would have been forgive-and-forget, but I think they've just taken this isolation feeling and ran with it. Please, please, do not let the Weavers win..it'll be the Friendship winning all over again. How could Phil have encouraged them to stay? Just let them walk and make next week non-elim! I also think the Linzes have just been having a lot of fun, and most everything they say in jest and reaction. With respect to the “house falling on the Mother” comment – it was a joke and it was said in a joking way! Hasn’t anyone here seen “The Wizard of Oz”? Very, very true Jimmer. That's exactly how I took it. ok, that's all for now....
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 3:03 pm
I agree Karen, about one of the Weavers giving a look when they heard Utah was the "Mormon state". I didn't have my VCR to rewind, but I know I got the feeling that they did NOT approve.
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Iheartkaysar
Member
08-16-2005
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 3:31 pm
I can buy that other teams were against the Weavers after they won the second leg, but against them on a game level; they realized they were a threat. But, the more personal comments about the Weavers have only been happening (at least to our knowledge) the longer the race goes on. The Weavers don't get that this is a game, and a game means competition. They were upset when the Linz team pointed ahead when they passed the Weavers. They took that so personally. Compare that to how the Linz family took one of the Bransens mooning them. Or the exchanges b/t the Linz family and Godlewskis with the boats. They are having fun while competing and I get the impression the Weavers think fun is "un-Christian." JMHO My favourite team is the Linz family, but I would be okay with any remaining team winning but the Weavers.
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Stopjustwatchin
Member
08-19-2005
| Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 7:05 pm
My preferred order of finish is Linz, Bransen, Godlewski, Weaver. But, I wouldn't have a problem with the Bransens edging out the Linz at the end. I think those two teams as the final two would be great!
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