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Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 5:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
I can't stand the Weavers. I tried to like them cause of they lost their father/husband but I just can't. They're nasty and sore losers.

Marej
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09-20-2002

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 6:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marej a private message Print Post    
I wish Phil would have hugged Carissa and that would have made me cry more. She was really trying hard not to burst out crying. But I'm sure this is something that the kids will never forget.

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasper a private message Print Post    
My dh and I were discussing why everyone seems to dislike the Weavers as well. I don't really get it. Someone mentionned above the

quote:

because they continue to use the loss of their father as an excuse for why everyone else should be nice to them.


I don't see that myself. As well the praying, I don't see that as really praying for things so much as asking for guidance and if that is how they live their lives so be it.
As well possibly how they act is in reaction to how the others treat them. I find the Linz boys far more annoying than the Weavers.

At this point I am actually rooting for the Paolos. It has been really nice to see the change in this family and how the one kid has really come around and been supportive of his mom in some ways instead of constantly negative.

Carissa did bring tears to my eyes, I really enjoyed watching this family work together.

Stopjustwatchin
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08-19-2005

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 6:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stopjustwatchin a private message Print Post    
OK, catch up time for me (so, I'll try to go in order)...

Lexie, I think we got an insight into that not just at the yield but also earlier in the show when they were at the bus station. I think it was DJ that said something to the effect of "we'll help everyone find the ticket just as long as it's not team FL". The Paolos really wanted the Weavers on the last bus to get to the point where they had the best chance of being eliminated.

BB (and Tabby) I completely agree with you.

Marej, I was thinking the exact same thing during the final scene last night. And, I absolutely loved Carissa's comment as they were heading to the pit stop: "This looks like some place we went (or should go) on vacation." and the dad said I think we'll come back here for vacation sometime.

FWIW, the Weavers have quickly become my least favorite to watch. They have taken over last place in my book from the Paolos (which I thought would be really hard to do). Don't get me wrong, I still don't want the Paolos to win either, I just want the Weavers to not win more. However, I wouldn't be sad to see the Paolos in the final 3, I just want the Linz and Bransens in the final 2.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
I'm not quite understanding the hatefest of the Weavers. How are the actions that we have seen from them any worse than the actions by the other teams towards them?

It seems to me on these shows that any person or team that show the slightest inclination of being Christians are the most unliked by the other competitors, as well as the viewers. I have especially seen this when anyone prays. Christians are taught to pray for guidance in every aspect of our lives and I don't think anyone should presume that does not include games. When the Weavers pray, I notice they ask for help if it is God's will. God can always say no.

Just my

ETA: I find it very interesting that the Paolos, whose kids treat their mother like crap on an hourly basis and whose father allows this behavior, are more popular than the Weavers.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Oh my dislike has nothing to do with their religion. I don't care which gods you invoke or pray to. They just seem like nasty people to me.

Stopjustwatchin
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08-19-2005

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stopjustwatchin a private message Print Post    
I fully agree with your points, Native...I think the way Spygirl put it was best:

Regarding the hate spewed at the Weavers, I think it is because others feel threatened by their religious convictions. I find that people don't know how to respond to that kind of open display of beliefs.

That pretty much sums it up, I think. I'm not saying it's right, but I think it's the best explanation of that part of it I've heard so far. However, personally, I'm still not fully convinced that is where the hatred spews from. I think it may be because they are attempting to go it alone in the race and not making friends with the others - take your pick, I think we've seen at least one example of this every week. JMO.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Once again, we find the use of the term "retard" by teenagers - aren't we supposed to be raising more sensitive, thoughtful children these days (LOL!).

The Weaver family prayed that they would win. As a Christian I find that offensive. Their prayer doesn't bother me - I do that myself (although usually privately and in my head) - but then when they were yielded they were very ungracious and snarky. They lost me there and hopefully when they viewed that episode they were embarrassed by it. Most Christians I know would have been.

The Gaghans had grown on me and I was sorry to see them go.

The Linz family is still my favorite and I loved the guys "accepting" their sister into the brotherhood last night. Way too funny.

Spitfire
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07-18-2002

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spitfire a private message Print Post    
Jasper, regarding what you quoted above....I have never saw this either. When and where did they ask people to be nice to them because of their loss? Seriously?

I do find that they are becoming hard to watch and the hate must stem from somewhere. Really though, what is so different from their attitude than from all the others who are trying to make them lose? All the others except the Gaghans of course.

As for their no-so-nice comments while at the yield I think that is normal behaviour for teenagers and yes mom should have said something for sure. I don't believe for one second that any of the other teams (other than the Gaghans)would not have complained and had nasty comments as well though.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
It may be a Catch 22 situation. They could be attempting to go it alone because of the hate or they are hated for attempting to go it alone. I heard the daughter say last night that no one wanted them there.

It's going to be very interesting to see what the truth is.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
One other thing - the Paolos at least have some kind of a sense of humor - the Weavers so far have not been shown to have any. Of course, given the facts of their recent tragedy I really can't blame them, but it is too bad that they aren't enjoying the experience of TAR more. I really wonder if being on the Race is a good thing for them. True, it might be bringing them closer together, but it seems more like a chore to them than a good experience.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Anyone see the Gaghans on the Early Show? I missed it!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Okay, the reason I take exception to how the Weavers pray to God to help them win the race is because I am a Hurricane Katrina evacuee. I may not be the best Catholic, but let me tell you that for the three weeks I was evacuated, I prayed that my house was not destroyed, my friends were okay, that He would help me find my family (it took a week before we could find each other scattered all over Louisiana and Texas - as well as the kindness of an out-of-state friend who put me on the CNN "Safe List" to help people find me). So yes, it does kind of piss me off that they pray to God to win a race. I know this was filmed Pre-Katrina, but I can assure you that not once Pre-Katrina did I ever pray that I would win the Powerball.
Just my two cents...


Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Of course, given the facts of their recent tragedy I really can't blame them,

I still think you can have a sense of humor even during a tragedy...

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
At first, I was not sure about such young children doing this game ('cause we've seen how nasty it can get). But the can-do attitude and positive parenting we saw made the Gaghan team my favorite. I was soooo devistated to see them eliminated (oh why oh why not could this have been a non-elimination round - seeing them with only the clothes on their back, they would have had the same attitude that the sistahood team had). sigh.

Back to rooting for the Linz "boys". So glad they are supporting their sister better.



Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Lexie, I am deeply sorry for the events that turned your life upside down and I hope life is treating you well.

I don't think God places prayers in order of importance. If someone has the faith to say a prayer, regardless of what it is for, God will answer that prayer. It may not be the answer wanted, but he will answer. I don't think anyone is qualified or has the right to say what a person can and cannot pray for.

Personally, if I ever had the opportunity to win that kind of money, which would enable me to provide a better life for my son and the proper education he needs, I would pray with all that I have. Like I said, God can always say no.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Kona, I'm rooting for the Linz family also. They seem to be the only all adult family remaining who have maintained respect for each other.

Spitfire
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07-18-2002

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spitfire a private message Print Post    
NT I really liked your post at 7:51. I personally am not religious and do not pray but believe what you believe.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I just watched the show, and I have to say...

I really hope the Weavers leave next week. Their "holier than thou" attitude is really starting to wear on my nerves. At the beginning of the show, they claim that they are "Christians and above" making fun of others. However, while they waited for the hourglass at the yield, they spent quite a bit of time making fun of the other teams. Above the others? Sorry, I think not.

I really REALLY dislike that team!

I hope the Linz or Bransen families come in first. If they can't, I'm starting to really like the Paolos. I still don't much like the Godlewski sisters, but I think it has to do with all their shrieking.


Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 8:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
i think the telling thing with the weavers is when they said they were raised only to trust in their family and God and no one else - that kind of inclusion equates isolation and does not
allow the kids to learn how to socialize with others in a healthy manner

that being said, they actually are making me feel bad for them with how isolated and off track they seem

Skootz
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07-23-2003

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skootz a private message Print Post    
Julie - if you go to this Early Show link you will get a write up on the show you missed.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 8:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
FWIW, the death of the Weavers father/husband is "not a recent tragedy." It's been a year. (The end of the mourning period in past eras, actually.) And apparently, they themselves had said they were over the death and ready to move on. So no, it's not a recent tragedy.

As Lex said, a recent tragedy is Katrina.

And yes, the Weavers have, on numerous occasions, prayed to win the race. Last night was the first time I ever heard them add anything about "God's will."

And Spygirl? Sorry, but I have no problem with reglious people. What I do have a problem with is when said religious people think they are better than others because of their religion. Claiming to be Christian and yet making extremely rude remarks within hours smacks to me of hypocrisy. (The implication is we are Christian so we are better and deserve to win.)

ETA: I think the Paolos, while still not the best people, are running a decent race. Mom has really stepped up to the plate. They came in first this leg, with less than an hour head start and a lot of bottlenecking.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
"FWIW, the death of the Weavers father/husband is "not a recent tragedy." It's been a year. (The end of the mourning period in past eras, actually.) "

I totally disagree!!!! My mom has been gone for 7 yrs and I still mourn for her, esp when times get tough

Heyltslori
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09-15-2001

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 8:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Heyltslori a private message Print Post    
I agree with you Pamy. It's been just over a year since I lost my dad, and it still seems like a VERY recent tragedy to me.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 8:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I think as more and more teams are eliminated, we might get more insight as to why the Weavers are so disliked.

This is one of those cases where if there is smoke, there has to be fire somewhere.

I don't think the Weaver's true behavior is being edited here, simply because the producers don't want to show the Weavers as villians, given the tradgedy they recently went through. But by not showing what they are really like, its confusing the heck outta us viewers!!!

I heard a little from the Schroeder Dad in a radio interview... he basically said the Weavers simply were very negative and were not nice to anyone... and they really appeared to hate being in the race.

I wish someone would ask the Gaghans what their perspective is on all the Weaver hate...