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Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 10:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
After last week, I got all jazzed up about the series again and thought, 'Maybe I won't mind the family thing.'

Well, I'm sad to say after tonight's episode that if the rest of the season goes this way, I might get bored very fast.

Some random thoughts:

#1 -- it's waaay too hard to really get to know anyone's personality or personality quirks with four people to a team. During the Civil War reenactment task, I said to my husband, "There are so many people and so many teams and so much chaos in this scene that I don't even want to keep watching it. I sorta just want to know how it ends." I've never felt that way watching AR before.

#2 -- for me, much of the fun of the show has been watching people undergo mild (and sometimes not-so-mild) culture shock issues when dealing with other languages, other ways of life, etc. While the U.S. is certainly a great place to travel, this "ease" makes it less compelling TV for me.

#3 -- I swear if they don't get out of those gas guzzlers (yes, I realize why they have them with 6 ppl to a vehicle, but still) in the whole series, I'll be seriously bored. Please please please don't let it be driving the whole time.

#4 -- It seems as though they're being given at least basic directions with their clues. There's no way from downtown DC all of them would have said, "We need to be on Route 50" to get to Middleburg unless it was on the clue. To me, this takes a lot of the fun out of it. Let them figure it out themselves!

I dunno. I don't hate it. I'll keep watching it. But it's just (sniff) not the same. There's time, I know, and I'll give it that. But those are my thoughts right now.

P.S. -- Ha! on the DC traffic. Just before they showed the traffic, I said to dh, "Oh they're getting on 50. Wonder if it'll be its usual parking lot."

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 6:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
they will be doing some stuff at an airport next episode, according to the longer promo for AOL users..

and rumor has it next week is the last leg in the US until near the end...


and believe me, that traffic was tame compared to other situations....like if someone sneezes on the Beltway, there's a 10-mile backup, let alone Route 50...and this was on a weekend apparently...


Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 6:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
i actually dont find fault in going to the wrong reflecting pool because even as someone that visited DC every other weekend as a kid and works in the city now and is obsessed with the momuments and musuems, who frequently goes to meetings and events on the hill, i have never even noticed the reflecting pool at the Capitol building and so when they read the clue, i probably would have spent the whole car trip debating in my head "is it the real reflecting pool or is there actually another one at the US Capitol building" since it seemed a bit off that they would say Us Capitol Building since its between the Washington Momument and Lincoln Memorial but at the same time it wasnt off kilter enough for me not to think it might be the real reflecting pool everyone knows about - so i can see how that would be an easy mistake even in reading the clue, especially if you know DC well (sometimes being aware of an area hurts because you ignore certain things that you take for granted)

Jimmer
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Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 7:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Well I must say that I am still enjoying this season far more than I ever thought that I would.

Is anyone else astonished by the incredible success of the Gaghan family. The parents (and the kids for that matter) are in extraordinarily good physical condition. The way they handled the task with the stretchers was nothing short of amazing. They also seem to be pretty intelligent at following the clues, despite their faux pas about the reflecting pool. And most importantly from this viewer’s perspective, they are fun to watch.

With respect to the Paolo family, as a parent I like my children to respect me but I also realize that you have to earn that respect by your own actions. The way the mother acts on the show would probably drive any person insane in a very short period of time. How many times can you moan, complain, criticize and repeat the same thing over and over again? The father isn’t much better. And I don’t need to comment on the kids. But I still like them better than the Schroeder dad and the Rogers family.

I agree that there is nothing amusing or likeable about the Schroeder Dad and his distasteful comments and I was not unhappy to see the Rogers team eliminated.

Similar to some other viewers, I am a little disconcerted by the short distance that they have traveled, but at least it is giving us an opportunity to see a bit of the U.S.

Overall though, I’m still very happy with the show. Some of the dialogue is extremely funny, a lot of the teams are likeable (e.g. the father and son in laws) and the kids (particularly the Gaghans) have been fun to watch.

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
believe me, if they were out west it wouldnt be so short a distance - 15 miles in DC is like driving 100 miles in south dakota (which i had to do once in the middle of the night because the hotel was booked and the next closest one was 2 hours away - ay ay ay)

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I was happy to see the Rogers family eliminated. That father with his I know it all attitude made their losing that much sweeter. I felt sorry for his son, who just kept his mouth shut.



Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 8:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Just for the record: the Rogers family on The Early Show this morning - dad fully took the blame for their loss. Also they noted how they should have listened to their son more, and came to appreciate him more as a result of this.

Finally, the reason mom couldn't complete the carrying the wounded task was because she had suffered a concussion on the very first day. At the very start she took a header, and bonked her head. For the whole race she was nauseous, vomiting and couldn't eat. After they were eliminated, they took her straight to the hospital where she was diagnosed with a concussion.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
i kept asking who the rogers family was! i swear only the teenage son looked vaguely familiar from last week's episode :-)
the shroeder dad thinks he's all that, maybe to impress the trophy wife. but maybe he's always thought he was all that and that's why he and first wife aren't together? last week, i believe, he was the one who made comment about wishing he had a handicapped child...he's a buffoon.
i was yelling at the gaghan family to ask about another pond! i didn't think the one they were at was the same one i saw on "forest gump" where jenny is in the water...LOL....but at least the got to the right place in time to not be eliminated this leg.
i was surprised that the father of the 3 gals isn't in better shape. he looks pretty fit and isn't very old. when he said he couldn't even carry his corner of the stretcher, i was amazed.
i guess that's why this is called the amazing race? i get amazed at a lot of little stuff!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 8:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Thanks for that info Kar.

What did

I
Twins

mean?

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
minnesota maybe?

Karen
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09-07-2004

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
I think it's referring to the eternal male dream -- double the love, double the fun. I double twins.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I figured the Schroeder children were twins...who knows?

Isn't the Schroeder family the one from Shreveport?

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
no...the Rogers are from Shreveport, the Schroders are from New Orleans (they stayed with the Rogers for a couple of weeks after the hurricane....which leads me to believe they're not going to get much farther race-wise, and will get to know the Rogers in Sequesterville....)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Well that's a little spoiler, but I can't say that I'm upset by it. Yay!

(ETA: "Yay" about the show, not their problems in New Orleans)

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Oops, got the names wrong, but the sentiment right! The family that got evicted last night was from Shreveport, right?

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
I thought there was no sequester on TAR. Don't the teams continue to race after they've been eliminated so that the outcome won't be spoiled?

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
I actually yelled "CRAP!" at the TV when the Paolos made it to the mat before the Rogers Family. Those kids may be obnoxious, but when the mother said she was going to repeat her harangue (sp?) about not stopping for gas "another 500 times," I just couldn't believe it. Give it a rest already. I just don't understand what people expect to accomplish with the nagging, other than to drive their whole family crazy! Ay yi yi!!!!

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, it's not a spoiler, just speculation (the teams don't have a lot of time to talk to each other other than at pitstops or in Sequesterville, and they're not allowed to talk to each other before the race starts--so if the Rogers and Schroders became friendly, and the Rogers are out, you'd think the Schroders will be close behind....)

Happymom, not really. What usually happens is that the early eliminated teams are sent to a nice resort somewhere for a few weeks until near the end of the race (so they can all be there to congratuate the winners at the finish line).


There are rumors that some of the eliminated teams run the last part of the last leg (in the finish city) before or after the teams still in the race arrive at the last city to throw off people...

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 1:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Happymom, I don't know but wondered about that.
Anybody?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 3:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I didn't mean anything serious Wilson - I know you were speculating.

I've heard the same story about them having eliminated teams continue to race to try to throw people off.

Padivius
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08-21-2003

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 3:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Padivius a private message Print Post    
Re: the Washington DC / Maryland thing.

I like to get out the old road atlas (which is actually brand new) and follow along as they race. In order to get to DC from Lancaster, PA, they needed to pass through Maryland. That was probably what was being referred to, with a slight grammatical slip, when someone said, "We are going to Maryland."

Re: The Paolos
The mother isn't the problem, the boys are!

-Padi

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
Re: The Paolos
The mother isn't the problem, the boys are!


I have to respectfully disagree with you there, Padivius. Those boys are a product of their upbringing. As nasty as they are, you have to look at who raised them. I think the whole family dynamic is just to berate and belittle each other. I know what you mean, though. It's just not nice to make your mother cry!

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 4:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I agree that the kids are a product of their upbringing... but they aren't little children anymore.

There comes a time when the "child" has to become responsible for their own actions... and those boys are too old to be acting like that towards their parents, regardless of the fact that the parents allow them too.

If their parents had taught them to be thieves, should society give them a break and let them go on stealing...just because they were brought up that way?

I totally lay responsibility for the way those kids were raised with the parents... but those young men are too old to put the responsibility for their behavior on their parents...

as always...jmho

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
I agree, Kep, but once again, look at the family dynamic. They all talk to each other that way, so I think the kids (young adults?) just think that's normal communication. I knew someone whose family all screamed at each other all the time. She couldn't understand why her hubby would get upset when she screamed at him. To her, that was just "normal" communication.

Makes you really appreciate the other families, huh? I just love those Aiellos and their FIL. How sweet are they with him? And I still love the Gaghans and hope they stay around for a while.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I think that the Paolos are going to be surprised at how they look to the outside world as they watch themselves...and of course they will blame it on editing...LOL!

Haven't we all had friends who bicker all the time in their relationships, and if you say something about it they look at your with a totally blank face - they are incredulous about their own behavior.

Wink
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10-06-2000

Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 12:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wink a private message Print Post    
The Paolo family dynamic reminds of the crap that goes on with Victoria Gotti and her 3 offspring.

Padivius
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08-21-2003

Monday, October 10, 2005 - 10:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Padivius a private message Print Post    
I have to respectfully disagree with you there, Padivius. Those boys are a product of their upbringing. As nasty as they are, you have to look at who raised them.

Everyone is "raised" by someone. By that logic, we can't blame murderers or rapists because they were just raised that way. I know it's not quite that extreme a situation, but at 16 and 24 years old, the Paolo boys (particularly the older one) are responsible for their actions. Yes, the parents raised them, but this is hardly an excuse for their behaviour.

Besides which, if you just watch Marion Paolo, she's just being a mother, she's not nagging them much, they just think she is.
And, I'll repeat it again for emphasis, you simply do not speak that way to your mother, regardless of whether you think she is nagging you too much. It is simply unacceptable.

-Padi

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Monday, October 10, 2005 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
It is simply unacceptable.

Obviously its not unacceptable to Marion Paolo. She allows it, and apparently has allowed it for quite some time.

But I agree... the kids should be held responsible for their own actions. They are old enough to know better... regardless of their upbringing...


Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, October 10, 2005 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
So should an adult always respect a parent regardless of how the parent acts, what he or she does and what he or she is like? The parent can say nasty things to them with no repercusions?

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Monday, October 10, 2005 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I don't believe that parents can say anything to a child and its ok...but that doesn't absolve the adult child's behavior. And I don't think its the adults child's place to "punish" the parent with disrespect...if that is what is meant by repercussions...

And yes... I've always tried to show my mother respect, even when I thought she was being less than respectful of me. She's my mother... and that affords her my respect... regardless of what she might say to me. If I did lash back or become curt with her, I would apologize for my behavior and not excuse it because "she made me do it".

But that's just my beliefs. I'm a firm believer in self responsibility.

Padivius
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08-21-2003

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Padivius a private message Print Post    
Yes, there are exceptions to be made if the parent's behaviour is the one that is unacceptable.

However, I don't see Marion Paolo being anything worse than annoying on this show.

I'm not sure if it's that Marion Paolo accepts it, but more that she allows it because she is passive in nature. It doesn't mean she finds her sons' behaviour acceptable.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 4:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
... the nut falls very close to the tree

Padivius
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08-21-2003

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Padivius a private message Print Post    
How à-propos, Lexie...

hehe