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Cdbga
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10-04-2004

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cdbga a private message Print Post    
Auntiemike, I didn't say I disliked the Weavers (and certainly didn't say hate), just that I didn't like them, which is a different thing (and also, as far as my prayer comment, which you used just a small part of in your other post, I also said that I wasn't saying my view was any more right than their's, just that because of the way I was raised, hearing people pray for things like that doesn't sit well with me. However I can accept that they worship differently and I don't think it makes them bad people or any less Christian, but it is hard for me to watch). And something I only mentioned because the Weavers were a topic of conversation at the time (as I also mentioned that I was sad to see the Gaghans go). In truth, I wouldn't say I am liking any of these teams. I liked the Black family, the Aiellos and the Gaghans, they are all gone now. While I am at it, I will also share with you that my mom died 14 years ago and there are still days that I cry about her. My grandfather died in Feb 2004 and it is still the hardest thing I've ever had to deal with, because I was closer to him than anyone in the world. I would never attack how anyone grieves. However, I also didn't find it necessary to come in and attack what those people were saying, since we should have a right to voice our own opinion here without being attacked for it. Disagreement is fine, debate is good. Perhaps you didn't mean your comments as attacks, but that was the way I read them. And, for the record, when I like, dislike, or hate a person/team from a reality show it is just in terms of the tv show (which is something I would think they would have to expect when they go on a reality show). I understand that they can all be very different in real life.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
The thing that bothers me about the Weavers, other than they seem to think they are better than others(which is JMO) is how they have said several times that they are christians.
Why do they need to keep saying this? Am I suppose to be impressed by this? Well, I'm not.
I'd be more impressed if they demonstrated their belief instead of telling their belief.
We are all human and therefore unable to be perfect so I'm not condemning the Weavers. Do they not understand that saying mean comments about the other teams is not christian like?


Rosie
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11-12-2003

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
Why are the Weavers being held to a higher standard than any other participants of TAR?

Let them pray or not pray. Say they are christians or not christians. It just does not matter at all to me.



Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Anybody else ready to move onto another topic of conversation? How's the weather there? Here in Texas it is BEAUTIFUL!

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 1:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Oh thanks, the minute I chime in it's time to move on. Isn't this the TAR thread?

Moondance
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07-30-2000

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 1:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moondance a private message Print Post    
the quote above is missing something... "Growing up we were taught not to trust anyone"

:-)

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 1:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
Roxip, thanks for changing the subject.

Weather in Eastern Washington is cold and rainy! Unusual for a desert area.

I do love TAR and overall think it is a fascinating show. Hope it continues for more years.

And, no, Spitfire, neither you nor Cdbga were the recipient of my rants; it was for Brenda, the poster above me. My apologies to you and to her as well, however, because I let my emotions rule my actions. And, I used quotes from a variety of posts to make my point. Sorry, need to react more level-headed next time and with more logic.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 1:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
jeez, roxip, at first i read your post as 'how's the weaver there?' lol
i pretty much dislike something about all the teams that are left. rolly bugs me a little because he would call the gaghan kids rugrats and other supposedly insulting childish names, but he's a kid himself! i guess maybe i don't see the weavers as individuals, but a group. if one of them said something negative the others would add to it or laugh, not try and stand up for whoever was being slighted. i am surprised that the mother did not tell her kids laughing at someone's employment was rude, for example,i guess. with the weaver's it's like no one's in charge. they are all acting like children. i do believe the mother left everything up to the father, but she needs to take the reins and finish PARENTING the children. it is up to her now.
the paolo family i see as individuals--albeit, all with their own problems!!--and the girls and their dad are very different creatures--i still can't believe how infirm he acts and he looks like a young guy. the godawful sisters annoy the heck out of me because they are still squabbling like they probably did 20 years back, etc. each team has their negatives, that's for sure!
i see the weavers as harsh, the godawfuls as spoiled brats, the bransens as a little rough on the old man, the paolos as a spin-off of 'the sopranos' with the now i hate you now i love you now you screwed up now i gotta hit you drama, the linz' siblings as a group on spring break, and
i'm thinking they all could have learned something from the youngest kids on the show--both the black children and the gaghan children.
JMO!

Cdbga
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10-04-2004

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cdbga a private message Print Post    
The weather is lovely here in GA, sunny and 72.

No problem here AuntieMike. I can certainly relate to letting my emotions overwhelm my logic, as I kind of did that in my last post. I have a pretty high fever right now as the result of the flu shot I got this afternoon (I ALWAYS get the bad side effects!) and I'm not processing things as calmly as I probably would otherwise. Heck, I felt personally attacked by my gas company because of an issue with the bill I got today (Can you believe they charge $17.00 for not even using your gas in a billing cycle? Ridiculous. $17, for one week in an apartment I don't even live in anymore...but that is WAY off topic.)!

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Please, I want everyone to raise your right hand and repeat after me:

"If Freda even looks like she might want to be on one of these shows, I will punch her. HARD!"

Thank you.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
"if freda even looks like she night want to be on one of these shows, i will buy a large-screen t.v. and make belinis and walking taco salads and have airing parties for all my friends, so i can say, 'i know that gal!'"


Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 2:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
and i'll punch anyone who disparages her, her behavior or her bad hair days.
and i'll blame any little not-great thing freda does on editing (but if she can't drive a stick or read 'diesel' on a tank, i get to giggle a little)
because, yep, editing can oftentimes be a lot of what makes us like or dislike a team.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 2:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
I really do think we are greatly manipulated by the editing....as evidenced on "Trading Spouses"....but, that's another story.

Thanks Cdbga for being so understanding. I hope you are feeling better soon.



Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 4:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Who the heck is "Freda"???? (Seriously! :-))

Stopjustwatchin
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08-19-2005

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 4:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stopjustwatchin a private message Print Post    
Wow, lots of discussion on the Weavers this week. What are we going to talk about if they're gone next week?

Tabby, now that I read you post. I do agree. There is something annoying about all five families left! That in and of itself is annoying.

However, I feel like playing a game. Anyone else can join in too if they want (it'll kill sometime between now and next Tuesday)... It's called rank the annoyingness (is that a word?):

My picks (most annoying to least with reasons):
1. Weavers - what can I say that hasn't already been said? holier-than-thou attitude brings you right to the top of my list any day
2. Paolos - all I have to say: can't we all just get along?
3. Godliewskis - their constant bickering is just annoying; however, at least they only do among themselves
4. Linz - what do you expect from a group of 20-somethings?
5. Bransens - there's not a lot here that actually annoying me other than maybe Pops. (I mean, I can't complain too much about three cuties, can I?)

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 4:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Freda I think is Native T's Mun. (Ok, for those not familiar with Mun...it's a term used in Free From RPing online to describe the player behind the character)

And FWIW, I'm not sure if the Weaver's are good people or not...I just think their getting a bum wrap on the show.

Surfgirl
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10-11-2003

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 11:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Surfgirl a private message Print Post    
Weather here in Amarillo,Tx: 82 degrees.. 40 mile a hour winds.. with up to 60 mile an hour gust.. a typical fall day here..LOL...
I am a Christian-lite. By that I mean I don't always attend church like I should, but I believe. I try not to judge others and really try to lead my life christian like, but admit I don't always succeed.
Usually.. I would jump on the band wagon about the Weavers being portrayed as holier than tho.. but...
(1) I do consider the loss they had the last year and it does effect you more emotionally and spiritually. Maybe they were less spiritual before, but the loss of the father/husband has made them want to be closer to god.. if anything.. just to live there life better and get a greater understanding to help deal with there issues. If they are new to being Christians.. it is harder to up-hold your standard's and beliefs.. is easy to slip back to old or normal actions under times of stress.

(2) Like I said before.. editing has a lot to do with it. What had me lmao is when I compared BB and live feeds and used the "Friend Ship" as a example, some one replied "yeah like how Maggie looked good" .. I really wasn't comparing Weavers to a Maggie, was comparing them to Janelle and the Sov.6 and how some people felt that Janie and Sov. 6 were so horrible and evil and had no souls.. and that was mostly peolple that didn't have live feeds or access to them!



Surfgirl
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10-11-2003

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 11:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Surfgirl a private message Print Post    
Ok forgot to say.. I went back to the first few threads about this TAR and it is so funny how so many people were rooting for the Weavers.. hated the
Paolo family and were really disliking the Gaghan family just because they had small children.
The hate for the Paolo's in the beginning was because they edited 'em to be horrible it seems , that or they just stopped showing how horrible they are by editing 'em that way..LOL who knows for sure but the guy be-hind the scissors who has to cut 80 hours of video to one hour.
So many disliked the Gaghan children just because they were in a show that doesn't usually have kids, but due to editing, or because they really were great kids they changed a lot of minds!
I agree I was one that didn't like the concept of little kids in the race but , after watching the Gaghan kids all during the show they blew me away and impressed the heck outta me!
I also admit I liked the Paolo's from the get go. I am from a family of screamers and yellers' so I thought it was amusing to have a family that made mine look mellow!


Clutterfree
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10-24-2003

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 3:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Clutterfree a private message Print Post    
I have been enjoying the Finish Line online interview with the Gaghans in bits and pieces...my computer will only hang in there so long before cutting out, but I can get about a quarter at at time!

Gaghans watched this past Tuesday's show with the Paolo's, said they are probably closest to Paolo's and Aiello's (geography might possibly affect that? New York/Connecticut/Boston?).
Biggest surprises for parents? That there weren't more families with young kids and biggest disappointment was that they did not do a lot more travel abroad (Gaghans speak Korean, for example, thought it would give them a big advantage! also experienced in other far east countries). The youngest daughter Kelley was left home because of her youth (7 years at the time, although on local Connecticut television they just recently announced her 8th birthday!). Parents would like to go back to Costa Rica and especially visit the volcano area, and take Kelley too of course, so they have the experience as their full family of five. Carissa still wants to bungee jump, so they may try that too. They wish they had been able to have more challenges at the NASA space camp.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I realized as I was watching TAR this past week is that we don't really get an idea of these people as individuals...because there are four of them we haven't become acquainted with them. This always happens at the start of the race when there are couples but usually by this time we have a feeling about whom we like and whom we don't - I don't even know many of the participants' names. I think this is leading me to not care as much. We probably all know the name of at least one of the members on each team (for instance isn't the Linz girl's name Meagan - but I haven't a clue about the brothers' names) but don't know much about why they are individually in the race and what they are like outside of the race. ALthough the family edition is probably okay for a one-shot deal I hope they don't do it again.

If Freda signs up for one of these shows we will all have a great time - shoot, maybe I'll go with her! As long as she eats the gross stuff...LOL!

Clutterfree
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10-24-2003

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Clutterfree a private message Print Post    
Okay, maybe I'm dense here, or don't understand terminology, but I still don't understand who "Freda" refers to!

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 11:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Clutter, Freda is the name that appears on my birth certificate and the comments refer to my post yesterday that I don't think I could handle being on a reality show and being looked at through a microscope. I already know that I can never run for public office because I did inhale more than once.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 11:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
And what did you inhale Freda? (NEVER MIND)

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 2:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Sorry I got you so riled up AuntieMike. I was just stating why I dislike the Weavers. Not stating that everyone should. Never stated they were beyond redemption. They are my least favorite team of those remaining and it has nothing to do with their grieving.

At this point I'm rooting for the 3bros/sister team. I like teams that take the game seriously and are still able to have fun, poke fun at themselves, and appreciate the adventure.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 4:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
No problem Brenda. I've calmed down.

Clutterfree
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10-24-2003

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 4:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Clutterfree a private message Print Post    
Thanks for clearing up the Freda mystery!!

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 11:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
I think I'm enjoying reading the board more than I am enjoying watching the show.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 9:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Same here.
I've just learned some bad news, the last couple pages cracked me.