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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 3:27 pm
I prefer teams that have a good time with it too. And teams like the Paolos and Godlewskis that are constantly berating one or another are not fun for me to watch. But the Weavers are different than that. They don't berate each other. For the most part, they support each other very well. I like that. And what's wrong with being goofy? That's what I mean about being misfits. It's quite true that their social skills are weak, but that just softens my heart to them. I have no problem with them deciding not to be part of a group that has made it clear that they don't like them. It would just be a waste of time. I loved the Gaghans too. And the couple that won last time. I don't see *any* of these teams at that level of participation. And I've long grown away from finding much amusement at the antics of frat boys. 
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 3:37 pm
The Weaver's were at the end of their rope knowing that nobody liked them, they had been yeilded not once - but twice - for reasons they may not entirely understand. Not because they are a big threat, but only because everybody doesn't like them and the other teams have this vague notion of revenge...under those circumstance I can see why they would be ready to give it up and be through with it. Nobody gives them props for sucking it back up and carrying on under such circumstances, nor are they spared any lattitudes that the other teams seem to get. (with the exception of a few like me ) Since the one viable time they have shown themselves a threat, everybody has been out for them. We don't really know why...though people here think its so strikingly obvious... I hate all the teams. I hate this season of TAR...and I hate that this has gone so over the edge that one of my favorite shows I haven't even watched in three weeks because I'm disappointed in the way that I can't seem to express on the board without getting modded. I don't care who wins anymore...I don't care who loses. I don't care why or how the Weavers are treated any more.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 4:01 pm
Thank you for saying that Babyjaxmom.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 4:14 pm
quote:I have no problem with them deciding not to be part of a group that has made it clear that they don't like them. It would just be a waste of time.
It seems to me that the Weavers isolated themselves first. They made it a point to say they weren't there to make friends and didn't understand why the teams were being friendly with each other. After that, the hostility just racheted up -- from both sides. I'm not a big fan of the Linz boys either. It seems like most of their antics are just for the camera, as if they're in a contest to see how many double entendres they can sneak into the show.
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 4:22 pm
Nice observations Karuuna. Also nice to give them some credit, Nickovtyme. We need a little more balance on these boards with regard to all the teams. I, too, see the Linz boys as the "popular" guys from school. The "jock" mentality abounds in them. Cute, but immature. They can have fun but it's all about them. I see the Weavers having fun too, just in a way that is not as socially recognized or acceptable. I believe this turtle from the Turtle Ranch agrees with me..... 
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 4:27 pm
The Finish Line show with the Godlewskis is up: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 4:45 pm
Jimmer - I think you are exactly right about the Linz team keeping their spiris up with their patter. Every volleyball or basketball team I ever played on did exactly the same thing to build self confidence and fire up the competitive spirit!! If you want to win, you have to stay convinced that you are going to win! I think it is called "talking smack" now; in my day is was "jaw jackin*!"
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 5:39 pm
I the Linz family!!! They really are the brothers I never had growing up but wish I did. I like that they don't take themselves too seriously and they don't bicker with each other. It cracks me up whenever those boys are going on about something and the sister just rolls her eyes. I was dying laughing when they were racing to the mat last night and they were screaming at Philiminator that they were coming!!! They are too funny. And I love how Papa Branson is really hanging in there. As much as they were one of my favorite teams from the beginning of the race, I didn't think they would last this long because it appears to be such a physical strain on the father. I am really proud of how far this family has made it without any bickering. Well... last but not least ... the Weavers. Costa, I think we're going to need an "Are the Weavers Gone Yet?" sectional with recliners for next week's show.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 6:47 pm
note to self: When trying to quit smoking - stay out of TAR threads this season. Haven't had a smoke since 7 morning.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 7:04 pm
Chalupa stated: "if I'm not mistaken, as Meg waved she yelled "Come on girls, you can do it" (or something like that) in a nice way which led me to believe she was waving and yelling to the Godlewskis, and not the Weavers, and Ma Weaver just interpreted it wrongly." Chalupa, that was my take as well. I even rewound a couple of times to watch it again. This incident gave me great insight at to why the Weavers are having trouble with the other contestants. Ma Weaver seems to misinterpret many things and gets upset at people for things they haven't even done because of her wrong 'perception.' I can't tell for sure but perhaps her daughters, or at least one of them, may be doing the same thing, thus creating problems where there are none. I too don't think the Linz boys think they are all that. I like their family and I like the Bransons. I hope one of those two teams win. I don't want the Weavers to win or all we'll hear about is how badly they were they treated, blah...blah..and they went on to win the race. Yuk!
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Stopjustwatchin
Member
08-19-2005
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 7:37 pm
Here, here, Cricket! I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Webchiq
Member
07-11-2005
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 7:40 pm
Oops, please delete, I came back from dinner, edited and thought I hadn't posted but I already posted earlier. Sorry.... The Linz family do not appear to be jocks, Meg gets winded when she's running, the older boys are the only ones who can do the heavy lifting work and they don't criticize the other two for not being able to do it. The Weavers are acting a little crazy. I wish it was just goofiness, but there have been a couple of times when they were just overwhelmed and jumped around screeching. I wish that the Weavers had found a way to integrate into the group. They are not on the outside because of the Linz family, they are on the outside because of the way they "act" like they're better than the others. The truth is that they come across as very insecure and like they really DO want to be part of the group, they just don't know how to do it. Now it's too late so they're alienating in the trailer, etc. and it's growing into something bigger than it needed to be. That is up to the parent to lead the kids on the right method to interact with others.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 8:09 pm
Hey Nick! No problem... and I totally agree with your next-to-the-last paragraph. I really think this "family edition" has ruined TAR. I really didn't like most of the teams, I'm not real wild about watching children (or teenagers), and although I think we have some spectacular scenery here in the good old US of A, I much more enjoy the spectacular scenery in those countries that I have visited, never visted, or "want to visit before I die." Web, girrl... you got that right! I think had they tried back in the first coupla weeks, things would be quite different. Instead, they decided to try to sabotage people (telling the ranger to delay 'em), break laws and put people at risk (throwing trash out the window of a moving vehicle), screech when they get yielded (I cringe when Weaver mother screeches at the top of her lungs), whine and moan at every opportunity. Yet Phil continues to give them pep talks. They are not having fun. Kick them off, and put someone there who wants to be there, who wants the experience, and who will learn from it. Cause I don't think these Weavers will learn one thing from this road trip. I think this is how they are in real life, too. If you attempt to isolate yourself, to insulate yourself from the real world, you will never be able to get along with people. Sorely lacking social skills notwithstanding, they just seem to be ignorant to me. P.S. Good luck Nick!
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 9:49 pm
I think that's a great observation Cricket! I do think that the Weaver's perception is what has compounded the situation. I also feel that the Weaver's sometimes forget that this is a game - and that they take things too personally when it isn't. Both times the Weaver's were Yielded - at that point - they were in the lead. Although the teams don't like the Weaver's, they did have strategic reason to Yield them. (And both times - Ma Weaver confronted the someone that yielded them.) The first time, the Weaver's were in the lead. They stopped in a gas station or something, and the Paolo's passed them. So at the point the Paolo's got to the Yield, the Paolo's thought the Weaver's were probably right behind them. The second time, again the Weaver's were in the lead, but the Linz's didn't know that the Weaver's took a scenic route which put them in last place. When the Linz's got to the Yield, they thought the Weaver's were right behind them. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but the other teams may not like the Weaver family due to certain behavior - but I also think the teams do see the Weaver's as a threat. (rightfully so) I also happen to like the Linz family because of their enjoyment of the game. I'm hoping the Bransen's win because of the father, but I'd be just as happy with the Linz family winning. Definitely make room for me on the "are the Weaver's gone" couch and save me a bellini. 
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 9:57 pm
btw - did anyone notice at the end when the families are sitting and talking to the camera - that the last time the Weaver's were shown (saying "we can really win this") it was filmed at a different time & location? They are dressed differently, different hair styles, sun shining, and a building is in the background.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:43 pm
The Linz family doesn't bother me at all. They remind me of my youth! I have 2 older brothers who begrudingly let me hang out w/them at times because their friends liked me and told them to let me stay (mostly the one only 5 yrs older - the other is 10 yrs) and had male playmates and to this day, male friends. I was used to being one of the only, if not only girl around. I "get" male humor/kidding/teasing and can give it back just as good as I get. My brothers and I get along great now that we're all adults, but I wish I had gotten along with them as well as the Linz boys do with Meg. As much as they tease or whatever, you can tell just how much they really care for her. They're much closer in age than my family was, so I just think they're fun. On a trip like that, I think the guys bring a lot of light-hearted banter which makes it enjoyable. I so so so wanted to root for the Weavers just like so many others. They were my first "picks" when the show started. I just found their behavior hard to take - whining, complaining, not liking anything! I don't think anyone has a problem with them BEING Christians. It's their actions which don't seem to be in line with "Christian behavior" after they keep telling US how they are Christians and above bad behavior. That's the problem. I'm a Christian myself and people who play the "Christian card" over and over again and then don't hold up the standard of which they speak, bug me like crazy! The other teams may be behaving and saying things which are just as bad, but they also are not telling us how "good" they are because they're Christians. That's the difference. Period.
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Justfun
Member
11-08-2005
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 5:57 am
The Godlewski interview is up over at Reality New Online. Here is the question and answer about the Weaver family: RNO: What do you have to say about the Weavers? The Godlewskis: America sees them for who they are. You see what we see.
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Biloxibelle
Member
12-21-2001
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 6:01 am
I am liking the Linez family. I think the boys are having a great time. I loved Megs duh moment when she looked in the camera after realizing she was thinking of Paul Bunyan not Buffalo Bill. The Branson family are also on my like list. I am really impressed with Wally keeping up. I sure at the beginning of the season he would be the getting airlifted for medial attention. I had to laugh at his grumbling in the previews when the girls were yelling at him to hurry up in the stadium. According to Wally he is going to kick someone's arse when he reaches the top. I'll be happy if those two teams finish first and second. The order doesn't matter to me. Back in the thread someone mentioned eating the turtles. It dawned on me that they didn't do the eating yucky stuff this TAR. I always hated that competition. I hope that one is gone for good. What fun was it watching people taking hours to eat something disgusting then throwing it up.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 6:45 am
Luv, I noticed that, too. I'm hoping that it doesn't mean they DO win it. In fact, I'm hoping that with all of my being. What I'm hoping is that they ran out of decent soundbites and had to pull something from some time ago, rather than recording something new after the race ended. I laughed out loud at the Paul Bunyon reference... "Oh, I was thinking of the guy with the ox." HAHAHAHA! Biloxi, they haven't done half the stuff they've done in other seasons. They really "dumbed down" this version of TAR. Which is why I'm really not enjoying it much. Although it's a great history lesson, I don't watch TAR to learn how to put up a teepee or to watch a Civil War re-enactment. <yawn>
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 7:48 am
That's right, they didn't have to eat yucky stuff. That is too bad. I really like to see that--not cuz it is gross, but to see how the one person handles a tough situation and how the partner(s) support that person.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 9:53 am
Ack! I hate the eating of the yucky stuff! I'm with Biloxibelle: "What fun was it watching people taking hours to eat something disgusting then throwing it up." But remember what fun (!) we all had debating Rob's Meatblock Fiasco last season? I think I loved him as much as I despise the Weavers (sorry, Auntimike). Hey, Nick? How's it going with the smoking? Been there, done that! I quit about 7 years ago and still crave it now and then, but the benefits to your health and your wallet are definitely worth it! Hang in there, buddy! {{{Nickovtyme}}}
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 10:08 am
i loved the food challenges. my family members would probably fight me for the right to do that part! we all love spicy foods, caviar, meat, eggs, etc. even the bugs, since they were cooked, didn't bother me. on survivor, when they had eat the tarantula, i wasn't sure i could have done that...
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 10:26 am
The food challenges have provided some classic “funny” moments. The one that comes to mind for me was when Freddy was having no problem at all with the challenge and just wolfing down the food. Then Kendra says something like: “Wow! You’re doing great Freddy. Look at all the stuff everyone else has spit up on the floor!”. And that was that! 
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Marej
Member
09-20-2002
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 10:39 am
You just know that CBS put the Weavers on for their story (Dad). If they win, will anyone come up to them and congratulate them? 
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 11:01 am
Marej, I would hope so. Good sportsmanship should always be a goal....if one wanted to take the high road. Plus, it would set a wonderful example of "how to be" instead of "how not to be", IMHO.
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