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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 12:46 pm
Maybe they needed something like TAR to jolt them back into living again. Losing a loved one is the most painful experience and for some it can be debilitative. TAR has them on the go!
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Murfra
Member
08-06-2005
| Friday, November 25, 2005 - 8:18 pm
my question about this family is--why do the other families hate them so much? Did I miss something? I love this family and feel so bad that the others are "ganging" up on them. My friends don't get it either--can anyone shed some light?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, November 25, 2005 - 8:32 pm
Murfa, maybe because they threw food and/or garbage out of a moving vehicle, made fun of garbagemen as a profession, repeatedly say how much better they are than the other teams, well those are the first few things that come to mind. Even a non-biased party (guy at Grand canyon gate???) said they were talking smack about another team (Linzes). Seems like they have alienated themselves from the other teams.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 7:13 am
It could also be they also called one of the Godlowski sisters a liar, they have said they are the only "good people" left in the race, that if they didn't win the race, whoever won would probably use the prize money for a new nose and fake boobs, they insulted the entire State of Utah... and the list goes on and on...
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 10:38 am
I don't like this team because from what we are shown they seem to be very obnoxious in calling others names and not in a funny way but a mean spirited way. I hate litterbugs and this team certainly doesn't give a darn about throwing things out their car window. But mostly I can't stand people that constantly pray to their lord yet display such poor behavior and meanness towards others and the environment...they are hypocrites! Plus they basically gave up until they got their little pep talk. They whine all day long when things don’t go their way, which is not endearing no matter who you are. So Litterbugs Mean spiritness Hypocrites Whiners These are my reasons.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 7:22 pm
As a resident of "the buckle" of the Bible belt, I do believe in prayer. I am fine with people praying for safety while driving or doing a physical challenge. I am fine with prayer for pair/family unity or personal patience. But help in finding a clue box is stretching my idea of divine guidence all out of shape!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 7:37 pm
As a person who does not believe in God, I still respect those who do. And those who pray. However, it just rubs me the wrong way when someone prays for help (like finding a clue box) when playing a game. Praying to keep safe or for strength to continue on, that's OK. To me. And everything Lex and Lil said. I really REALLY dislike them because of the litter thing. And I really dislike them because of the way they play the game. It's OK for them to do things (motion for a boat driver to drive slowly for another team; tell a park ranger that the team behind wants to hear an entire history), but it's not OK when someone does something to them. They seem to forget it's a game. And I strongly dislike the pity parties they constantly throw ("ohpoorpitifulme, we are the only good team") and the constant whining and moaning. I really wish last week had not been a non elimination leg. Really!
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Monday, November 28, 2005 - 10:17 am
I'm not so sure their behavior is stemming from any grieving process they may be experiencing. While its true that they could still be grieving...and I don't think grief should be hidden or treated like it was a bad thing,... I still cannot bring myself to believe their nasty behavior is because they are missing their dad. At some point, one of them would recognize that their family is not being themselves...or might question as to why they are having such a difficult time... but these people are totally focused on everyone else as the problem and are NOT even considering themselves as possibly causing their own problems. Nope...I think these people have been acting this way (and blaming others) for a long time...they are just too good at it....
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Spitfire
Member
07-18-2002
| Monday, November 28, 2005 - 11:22 am
Murfa - on the other side of the coin there are a few of us who think that the Weaver hate seems to be overboard. That does not mean that I agree with all their actions but I really don't see the difference from their bad behaviour to any of the other teams bad behaviour. OK.....jump all over me now!!! HAHAHA
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Monday, November 28, 2005 - 11:55 am
Emphasis on "few" Spitfire. 
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Monday, November 28, 2005 - 12:12 pm
I think the main difference between the Weaver's bad behavior and that of the other teams is that the Weavers' bad behavior is directed towards just about everything they come in contact with... be it other teams, innocent bike riders or beautiful scenery. The bad behavior of the other teams seems directly solely at the Weavers...and appears to be retaliatory in nature... Ever notice that the only time you hear derogatory remarks about the Weavers from the other teams is usually right after one of the teams has had direct contact with them? By comparison, the Weavers need no such direct contact to be negative or make nasty remarks about their fellow competitors…. I don't subscribe to the theory that the Weavers are simply reacting to the actions of others, and I point to the people who were minding their own business, riding their bikes on a beautiful afternoon as an example. I don't believe the bad behavior of those bike riders was edited out of the show...because I don't believe there was any. They were simply enjoying a nice bike ride...and ended up being subjected to the Weavers snotty comment about them "wishing" they were Lance Armstrong. That doesn’t sound like grief stricken underdogs to me….sounds more like “spoiled brats who make themselves feel good by putting others down” than anything else…and that’s where I believe the “Weaver Hate” is coming from. Personally, I don’t hate the Weavers, but I do dislike them intensely…
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Spitfire
Member
07-18-2002
| Monday, November 28, 2005 - 12:54 pm
Like I said above..... That does not mean that I agree with all their actions but I really don't see the difference from their bad behaviour to any of the other teams bad behaviour.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Monday, November 28, 2005 - 12:57 pm
I agree that the Weavers seem to negative about everything (the other teams, their surroundings, the game itself, etc.). Another indicator that the way the Weavers are playing the game may be the problem is that the other teams all seem to get along with each other. There is no reason why they would get along with each other and not get along with the Weavers. With respect to other teams bad behaviour or negative comments, most of the “negative” comments are said in a funny tone. Also they refer to the Weavers as “Team Florida” – nothing mean about that. Sadly, the Weavers’ negative comments just appear to be bitter.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, November 28, 2005 - 3:03 pm
I'm going to go sit by Spitfire. Honestly, I don't see the Weavers as any better/worse in antagonism and ugly behavior than the others. Whether it's retaliatory or whatever, bad behavior is bad behavior. Or in Forest Gumpese - ugly is as ugly does.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, November 28, 2005 - 3:08 pm
I still lean towards 'there is more to this story than we are seeing' camp. I don't think we are seeing the Weaver's behave in a manner towards the other teams that would cause all the other teams to have a pretty much unanimous dislike for them.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, November 28, 2005 - 3:14 pm
I agree with some things here like what Texannie said. I also think there is a lot of attention on this team because of the Christian label -- both by their supporters and detractors. And yet, while I've watched the entire season and will watch it until the end, I still DON'T ACTUALLY FIND MYSELF CARING about whether they're truly nasty or just very misunderstood, just like I don't really truly care about THIS ENTIRE SEASON. Too bad. Can't wait for the next, "real" season.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, November 28, 2005 - 4:23 pm
Jimmer, there's also the fact that all of the other teams seem to be having FUN and enjoying themselves and the race. Unlike the Weavers, who seem to be just plain miserable. And the Christian label wouldn't be applied to them -- and held up to them -- if they didn't say something about it every single darned episode! Who are they to decide who the "good" teams are? Who are they to decide that one person's faith is any less than theirs? And Yankee? I'm with you. The "family" aspect of this season has bored me to tears. Along with the sticking mostly in the United States thing, in my opinion this season has been a dismal failure. But no matter how bored I am, I still am fervently wishing the Weavers get booted this week! 
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Monday, November 28, 2005 - 5:24 pm
as i said on another post, the weavers always make their snarky remarks about other people, whereas the others seem to mostly snark on their own teams. i have never heard the weavers be rude to their own family/team. occasionally, the others make comments on the weavers, but usually the others make comments to their own team members. the sisters are giving the other sisters grief. the dad and daughters get on each other sometimes...the paolos only got onto their own team mates/family members. the weavers always give crap to other teams.
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Chrissy105
Member
08-14-2005
| Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 6:26 am
What drives me nuts and VH1 was doing a spoof on them too is that they pray to God for everything...then they treat others like crap. Like they said last week "If I ever meet anyone from Utah, I'm going to tell them I'm sorry...because it is such a boring state" that is down right mean for such religous people in that beautiful state. I think the Weavers are complainers and whiners and think that if they beleive in god everything will be ok. Grrrrrr
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Spitfire
Member
07-18-2002
| Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 6:33 am
Karuuna thanks for taking a seat next to me. It's was kinda lonely over here but at least I'm in good company! Although I agree with certain things you all are saying, like the fact that there is more to the story than we know, I think it works both ways. I don't see it as only a Weaver issue, rather that there is a issue with all of them. Yankee I agree with you .....Too bad. Can't wait for the next, "real" season. While it was a great idea trying to bring families together to work as one, it just does not work in this format. There is to many people to keep track of and it's such a slow pace as to what we are used to.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 8:51 am
Kar, Spitfire, make room for me.}
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 7:33 pm
Who thinks that Rolly's plan to "take out Wally" was to invite him to pray together? I also loved Mom's comment that "we found it." Nooooooooo, the Bransons found it; you followed them!!
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 7:10 am
I think Rolly was just talking. And maybe Mom's "we" included the Bransens.
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Spitfire
Member
07-18-2002
| Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 8:08 am
I was under the impression from last nights show that the Weavers were not directly behind the Bransens at Ol Faithful when they pulled in because the Bransens where there for awhile it seemed. There for were they really following them. It really seems like people are trying to find every little detail wrong about this team. They are certainly not my most favorite team this season but geez....
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 8:15 am
They do seem to be the group that folks love to hate. Personally, while I find some of their behavior ugly, I think the same about the Godlewski's and Linz's. And in the beginning the Bransen gals were just ugly to their poor old dad. I found the Weavers' silliness at catching up funny as heck. Childish, sure. But they are so uncool, that's why I like them. No pretense. Just their silly selves.
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