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Watching2
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07-07-2001
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 9:24 am
I thought so too and think the gas company might be regretting it now that gas has gone so high! LOL
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Jimmer
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08-30-2000
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 10:43 am
It’s wrong for the boy to call his stepmother a beotch. However, before that happened he had simply been having a little chat when she interrupted him and told him to “shut his pie-hole”. If that isn’t rude I don’t know what is! As a parent myself, I don’t understand why people think that parents who act in an obnoxious and rude way themselves, are automatically deserving of respect. In other words they can say whatever they want in whatever rude way to demean their kids, with the expectation that their kids should simply remain polite and respectful regardless. I like the Gaghans as well up to this point. They have been supportive of each other, the parents seem like very good parents, the parents are amazingly good at the game and the kids are playing well too. They are actually competitive. As much as I want to like and cheer for the Weavers because of their situation and what they have gone through, I don’t seem able to. In fact, I like them less than any other team left in the race with the exception of the Schroeders. Overall, this season has been much better than expected (I had very low expectations), but I would like to see them get out of the States and have more difficult challenges.
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Rosie
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11-12-2003
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 10:54 am
I wonder if the Aiellos would still be in the game if they had given up on the mud and headed over to the shrimp? Did I hear at the end of the show that they made something like 14 attempts in the mud? The free gasoline is a great reward. You wouldn't hear me complaining about free gasoline.
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Dona
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06-21-2005
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 10:57 am
I really like the Bransen's and the Linz. I wouldn't mind if either of them won. The teams I like the least are the Gaghans, Shroders and Paolo's. These 3 teams get on my nerve.
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Stopjustwatchin
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08-19-2005
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 11:04 am
Rosie, More than likely the Aiellos would have still been on the second bus by the time they decided to switch, so it wouldn't have been much of an advantage to switch after 6 or 7 attempts. However, they wouldn't have known that when taking attempt after attempt in the mud.
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Roxip
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01-29-2004
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 11:04 am
The free gasoline is a great reward if you happen to live somewhere where BP and Arco are - I've never seen one of those stations here in Texas...that would be just my luck.
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Mocha
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08-12-2001
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 11:06 am
I could use some free gas myself.
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 11:10 am
Stop, that is a good point. We have Arco here!
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 11:16 am
By the way, if my DD ever spoke to me like either of those children (the Paolos or the Schroeders) did she would find herself in the nearest restroom with a soapy mouth.
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Happygal
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11-15-2004
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 11:17 am
Re: the discussion earlier about going to the race track next week I suspect that the stop at the race track was all figured out long before they picked the final teams for the show. The producers could have said no to the Weavers, knowing their backgroud. However, the Weavers and their story makes for good t.v. I'm sure the producers are loving the fact that they can inject some extra drama into an otherwise pretty boring season. Who knows, maybe they discussed the race track thing with Mrs. Weaver before they accepted them as a team for the show...to see if she felt her children could handle the experience.
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Kep421
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08-11-2001
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 11:38 am
Kids have always spouted off to parents, been disrespectful, and even called them names (I'm sure mine called me several in their teens, but never to my face). Whether they actually say it or just think it, all kids do that whether their parents are being disrespectful to them or not. I think its part of being a kid. But when the kid becomes an adult, its no longer childish rebellion. Its out and out disrespect. The adult child doesn't have to stand by and accept the disrespectful actions of his/her parent, but he/she doesn't have to cuss the parent out either. You can always find a way to address a disrespectful parent without resorting to disrespectful behavior. And yes, I am one of those weird people who was raised to always respect my elders...ESPECIALLY ONE'S PARENTS... *sighs*... I know...its a dying convention...
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Mocha
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08-12-2001
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 11:58 am
Seems to be doesn't it Kep.
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Peeper
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06-14-2004
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 12:16 pm
I hated the way the team was eliminated last night. It should have been a non-elimination leg because the finishing order just depended on what bus you were on and what number you had for the gforce ride....I think if the eliminated family had known how it was going to end, they could have rudely pushed in front of another family and gotten to the end faster.
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Vsmart
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02-10-2003
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 1:12 pm
The losers were not the last team out of the centrifuge because they got lost going to the Pit Stop.
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Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 1:13 pm
I thought they were last. DH just agreed with me.
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Stopjustwatchin
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08-19-2005
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 1:29 pm
I think the Aiellos were the last ones out of the centrifuge. It was the Paolos who had some difficulties finding both the rocket and the Pit Stop. That's why the Gaghans were walking up to the computers just as they were leaving.
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Bob2112
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06-12-2002
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 2:11 pm
The finishing order at the pit stop was exactly the same order, from 1 through 8, as riding the centrifuge. Editing always makes the ending look in doubt, but the finishing order for this episode was determined once you pulled your number for the ride. When the clue said go to the next pit stop, DW and I were both surprised. It seemed like little had occurred up to that point and now they were finishing. Yawn. This is the first season of TAR that I seldom read anything on-line until the day after the race and then it's usually just this show thread to see what others are saying. We'll keep watching, but it isn't a must see. Without Tivo, we would probably forget it was on.
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Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 2:33 pm
Did it show the mom telling the son to "shut his pie hole" or was that what she relayed to the cameraman? (There could be a significant difference in terminology between those two people.) If she said it directly to the kid, that was rude and out of line as well -- but it still doesn't make it right for the son to respond in kind. I'm with ya' Mocha -- we were taught respectful behavior towards parents because they were our parents. End of story. I may be extra "sensitive" to this issue though, because students today will say ANYTHING to an adult -- there is very little boundary and very little respect. It gets extremely frustrating (and this is from a teacher who rarely corrects or reprimands a student in front of ANYONE) -- I give my students more respect (and more hard work, generally) than I get from 75% of them in return. More on topic -- I liked the Gaghan family this week. Made me smile to see the dad and son in the centrifuge machine together.
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Puzzled
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08-27-2001
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 2:46 pm
I was sorry that the Paolo's weren't the last ones eliminated. It's pretty awful for a step-mother (or any parent) to talk to a kid like that, especially right in front of everyone, so he could be super-embarrassed. She is a B.
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Iheartkaysar
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08-16-2005
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 3:59 pm
My favourite line of the night: Phil saying, "You may have noticed that gravity is pushing on me right now." Don't know why, but it made me laugh. RE: the gas prize. It will be a lot of money, but really, it's probably less than what the company would pay for an advertising spot on the show. And people pay more attention to the show than to commercials (I think).
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Jimmer
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08-30-2000
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 6:29 pm
If I recall correctly, the Mom said to the cameraperson “I told him to shut his pie hole!”. They did not show her saying it directly to him (we don't know if she did). Any way you look at it, it is not very nice or admirable. Wow – all you’ve got to do is be able to reproduce and it automatically entitles you to respect. This parenting stuff is a lot easier than I thought. And what does one do if their parents are truly despicable people – respect them regardless?
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Kappy
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06-29-2002
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 6:44 pm
Just to be clear, I don't think it's okay that the one boy called his stepmom a "b". I think I was really reacting more to the premise of this season - having families and kids compete in TAR and making us watch what happens when the kids don't please the parents or vice versa. I've always watched this show for the competitive aspect and the scenery and listening to families talking at each other in cars is not what I want in my primetime. As for the stepfamily, what kind of secret strategies could they have at that point that were so important as to get that angry with the kid? Was his reaction okay? Absolutely not but then again, they should never have put kids into this situation of stress to begin with. Adults getting upset with each other in this race is hard enough to watch. Seeing someone get upset with a kid because he might upset their chances at the big bucks is not entertaining or enjoyable to watch and it's exactly what I was afraid of before this season began.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 8:17 pm
Jimmer, Maybe I'm wording things wrong -- I was taught to treat people respectfully no matter what THEY did. Treating people w/ respect actually is different that having "true" respect for them (maybe I should say treating people politely?). Basically, another's bad behavior doesn't give me an excuse to act in a similar way, no matter if it is a friend, a child, a parent, or some other adult. We were raised to "assume people deserve respect" -- and even if they didn't "deserve" it, we still couldn't act rudely. I truly respect my parents, but they have never given me any reason not to. Hope that makes my position more clear. The step-mom had no business making the comment she did either, but I got a distinct "attitude" from the kid, in almost every interaction he had with her, that rubbed me the wrong way. With the exception of the one comment, the step-mom seemed excited to be on this trip that could bring their family closer together, and in her "confessionals" she talked about how important they were to her. (talk is cheap, I know! LOL)
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Padivius
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08-21-2003
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 8:27 pm
Parents earn respect by raising their children, so therefore the adult child should have appreciation and respect for their parents. Obviously, if the parent was a neglectful abusive parent (in other words, a bad parent), obviously, no respect will come from that child. However, the Paolo parents seem to have provided for their children and given them a fairly good life and upbringing, and whatever else the Paolo boys may be, they aren't anything worse than mean. What I'm saying is, given the circumstances, the Paolo children are not respecting their parents (or at least their mother) the way they ought to be. A mother deserves to be respected by her grown children. -Padi
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Legalboxer
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11-17-2003
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 8:58 pm
i agree Teach - i always show respect for people - family friends and enemies even if they never show it back and even if they dont deserve it - its not about being rolled over or too nice, but its about the ability to treat others with respect as human beings even if you dont like them - and by doing that, sometimes they start to listen to you and recognize that respect and even if they dont, who cares - its never been about what people give to me, but how i treat others since that is all i can control - myself. 
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