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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:44 pm
Thanks, NT...I meant to put that in there but I forgot. Yeah, the Pink Ladies bummed money from the Weaver family and then jumped on the Yeild the Weaver band wagon. Why didn't they ask any of their "friends" for money...why did they single out the Weaver's. Right...and right after that cut, they showed the Ladies talking something to the effect of "Yeah, we'll be nice to them to get what we want, but then it's a knife in the back." Nice people those gals.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 8:01 pm
Speaking of "nice" people -- I have to comment on the Weavers saying "we're above that" in regards to talking badly about people...and then at the yield proceeded to trash every other team -- at times making snide and disrespectful comments about individual people. Sorry, in my book that is NOT a Christian attitude (regardless of what flavor church you belong to).
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 8:10 pm
Let's see the Paolo's get yeilded and see how they handle it...or the Linz's. Christian or not, to me is beside the point...that's between them and God...It was probably a culmination of several days of exhaustion and knowing the other teams don't like you...for reason's they may not even know or understand. This has gone beyond general disliking of a team.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 11:49 pm
Here are links to the Finish Line clips from today: Part1 Part2 Part3 Unfortunately, there's some screwup and it seems that the audio track from a soap opera is mixed in with the clips. By the way, according to the other videos on the web site, the Godlewskis got $5 from *all* the teams, not just the Weavers. Also, the Weavers expected a map in exchange for the $5.
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Surfgirl
Member
10-11-2003
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 4:41 am
Ok.. I swore to my self...( did not swear to God.. only save that for the big issues like a million bucks )... I was going to be a lurker on this thread.. mostly because I work nights that AR is shown so I am going by mostly what I read here and the few times I reminded my hubby to record AR for me. Unlike BB.. Hubby wasn't threatened by death if he didnt tape for me.. so I haven't seen many episodes. But.... from what I have read here..I just dont get all the Weaver hate. Am really shocked how so many seem like.. "its been a year get over it.." well.. I lost my dad 12 years ago.. I will never get over it.. took me a few years to actually not burst into tears when it was his birthday or fathers day or anniversary of his death. I almost lost my husband a year ago.. I am still horrified by that.. and that was almost losing him.. So after experincing that.. to hear peolple say its been a year get over it..I so disagree. I am 36.. losing my father was a horrible experince.. to lose my husband and for my children to lose there father would be a hundred times worse. As for the comments that they should of never entered AR.. well geee... you need a change of pace to get your mind off losing your father.. and you could win a million dollars. Maybe they are regretting it.. but.. also remember editing.. how many people that didn't have live feeds to big brother thought "The friendship" was the best thing ever. As for the other teams on AR, and all the joy.. joy.. fun.. fun.. they also know its for a million dollars, get rid of the family that has the most sympathetic story. Also.. sure its ok for others to pick on one group.. and that group relizes it and gets defensive, wow.. "hello human nature.." ok I am done ranting .. heading back to lurking..
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 5:29 am
Surfgirl, I agree with what you are saying. I watch the show and I still do not see the reason for the hate....but I keep in my BB and how Mag was portrayed on tv..if we didnt see the feeds we might have liked her LOL
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 5:46 am
Excellent point Pamy!!!
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 6:28 am
For those who are interested, Reality News Online has an interview with the Gaghan family. I was definitely sad to see them go. I'm not liking the Weavers, either. The prayer thing just doesn't sit well with me. I'm a Christian, in a very Christian family so prayer in and of itself does not bother me. But like some others here have mentioned, I was always taught not to pray for things like winning games. I pray often, but I also offer praise and thanks to God just as often. I understand the Weavers may have different beliefs about prayer (as many of you have discussed) and I am not saying my views are any more right, just saying that when I watch them, something about them just doesn't sit right with me.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 6:36 am
Surf, my issue with them constantly dwelling on the death of the father/husband is that they very *clearly* said they were over it and ready to move on. To be honest, I've not seen a lot of moving on. Yes, it's traumatic to lose a loved one. But it was their choice to be filmed 24/7 on TAR. If they truly weren't ready (or "over it" as they claim), they had no business being on the show. Again, I think the only reason they were picked was cause of their backstory. There were probably thousands of other families who would've enjoyed the experience. <snipped comments regarding going on the show to win the million dollars -- totally self-edited myself!>
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 7:07 am
Surfgirl, I agree with you 100%. The reality of moving on is often very hard even when the mouth says the words. But I do have to wonder since it seems to be so unanimous among the other teams that perhaps there is something that we are not being allowed to see.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 7:31 am
I've been listening to the Gaghan interview from yesterday and it seems the hatefest for the Weavers started at the end of the first leg which the Weavers won. They elected to stay in their room while the rest of teams got to know each other. How dare they! BTW, the Gaghans got along with the Weavers.
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Clutterfree
Member
10-24-2003
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 7:35 am
Spear, thanks for the links to Finish Line...works for me, whereas going to main site doesn't! Not sure why, but thank you! Do you know if there is a way to SAVE real player interviews to my computer? There's a place to "add files" but when I do that it gives an "open" not "save" option...any thoughts? I got halfway through the first inteview portion, when yes they are asked about the Weavers and then I lost soundtrack....will go back to replay, but would be easier to do if offline. Let me know if you, Spear, or anyone else, knows how to save Spear's links to own computer. thanks!~Beth
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Spitfire
Member
07-18-2002
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 7:51 am
Costa in your post at 6:37 you say...Surf, my issue with them constantly dwelling on the death of the father/husband is that they very *clearly* said they were over it and ready to move on. I know a couple of us have asked, so I will ask again....when do they "constantly dwell" on the death. I remember them speaking about it on the race track episode (understandably) but don't really remember them ever speaking about it with the other teams on a regular basis or really at all. Did I miss something? (Wouldn't be the first time BTW
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 8:06 am
Native, I mentioned before that I thought that it came from the first two legs of the race where the Weavers finished second and first. They were immediately seen as competition and everyone got on a band wagon against them and it seems to have just snowballed from there.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 8:12 am
I've known some homeschooled kids who were amazingly well-adjusted. It all depends on whether the parents involve them in social activities. I personally know two families that I have contact with several times a week - one family is just odd and their children are not well socialized, but the other family's children are delightful, get along well with peers, interact with their public school attending friends all the time and don't seem to be inhibited by their lack of interaction on a daily basis. I think it is more the attitude of the parents than anything else.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 8:27 am
Az, from what the Gaghans said, it wasn't that the Weavers were seen as competition - it was simply because they wouldn't join the party downstairs. So it could be that the Weavers are not bad people - they have just been on the defense this whole time. If that is the case, how very sad for them.
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Clutterfree
Member
10-24-2003
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 8:28 am
As said above, I have been trying to listen to the online Finish Line interview with the Gaghans, and was reasonably successful up to the midpoint of the first section, where ironically they are asked about the Weavers, so I haven't been able to hear the whole thing yet.... Papa Gaghan (Bill) did say that they personally had no real problem with the Weavers, although somewhat dismayed by some of the things they heard them say on Tuesday night's show (eg. garbage truck remark) that they hadn't heard before. Bill thought the problem started with the leg that the Weavers won, where they stayed "upstairs" (don't remember pit stop) and everyone else was mingling downstairs and getting to know each other. He thought that instance of totally isolating began the negative feelings...although I haven't been able to hear yet the rest of Bill's remarks...the online playback failed at that point... Some of the Gaghans description of the buggy pull task is really interesting....
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 8:48 am
Clutter, I heard what Bill said about the Weaver daughters' remarks on the last show. While they certainly were disrespectful and I'm not making excuses for them, I don't see how they were any worse than remarks made by other people about anyone, especially the Weavers. And didn't Bill say that many of the players would be embarassed by what they see of themselves? Wow! That buggy weighed 500 lbs. It certainly didn't look that big. He did say that was their biggest challenge and their biggest accomplishment.
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 9:10 am
Let me get this straight, they haven't grieved properly: "they very *clearly* said they were over it and ready to move on. To be honest, I've not seen a lot of moving on" and, They don't pray correctly: "I'm not liking the Weavers, either. The prayer thing just doesn't sit well with me." They are competitive in a race: "the Weavers finished second and first. They were immediately seen as competition and everyone got on a band wagon against them and it seems to have just snowballed from there. " They chose to stick together as a family: "it was simply because they wouldn't join the party downstairs. " Hmmmm, it is amazing how many reasons we, on the boards, who don't see and hear everything, have enough ammo to "hate" this family. Enough said!
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 11:16 am
I dislike the Weavers and here's why: I see them as very unaware of themselves. They talk about how godly they are, that they're "above" the others. Then they make fun of others, tell bus drivers to slow down to stall others, etc. Sure, other teams do this but they don't look down their noses from their high horse onto the others -- that is the key difference here. The Weavers think they rise above it all, but they're down there in the mud with the rest of them. And when the daughter said "we were taught not to trust anyone" that made my blood run cold. What a thing to teach your kids. This family seems very closed off to anyone but themselves -- why would anyone like them, they've shown nothing of themselves to the other teams to like.
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Spitfire
Member
07-18-2002
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 11:37 am
ah...nevermind!
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 11:45 am
"we were taught not to trust anyone" Has anyone considered that statement was about the game?
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Spitfire
Member
07-18-2002
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 12:04 pm
Yes I have NT. In my profile my personal statement say "If you want it done right, do it yourself." That's basically the same thing isn't it? It doesn't really mean I don't trust anybody, rather that you, yourself are the only one that you can truly trust. Is this making any sense?
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 12:06 pm
So, who else do you dislike? Anyone? Or is it just the Weavers that have offended to a degree beyond redemption? I find all the teams, at one time or another, saying or doing things that are indicating they are in judgement of the Weavers and yet that is o.k. To even be able to show hate or dislike one has to be of the opinion that "they are better or above others". Maybe what you're looking for is a sense of humility or humble nature that is not coming through. Well, I see that as immaturity in life or in faith and not necessarily something to hate. Enough said...again!
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Spitfire
Member
07-18-2002
| Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 12:25 pm
You are not addressing me are you Auntiemike? I don't dislike the Weavers.
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