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Stopjustwatchin
Member
08-19-2005
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 12:07 pm
Luv, I noticed that too. However, I'm with Costa..my initial thought was that it was from the beginning of the race. I really do NOT want them to finish first or second. Third place is a good place for them right now.
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Padivius
Member
08-21-2003
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 12:27 pm
I, too, quite like the Linz family. I've been hearing alot about how the Linz brothers are arrogant. Remember that arrogant does not necessarily mean malevolant. They mean well and are enjoying themselves on the race, which is the main factor that endears me to them. Also, remember that they are guys and a girl in their early 20s, they look like they're successful in their lives and they get along well with one another. Most 20-something guys who are successful and happy are naturally arrogant, particularly when with their peers (and especcially with their brothers of the same age). It is something that is perhaps a little immature, but that's their age-group and dynamic. It would be akin to disliking Carissa because she couldn't contribute much to her team. Well, being a 9-year-old girl in an adult's race will get that result; it's not her fault. Anyways, IN conclusion, I'm rooting with everyone else for the Linzes.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 1:39 pm
Because of the Linzes age and sex, it's okay for them to be arrogant. The Weaver team has 2 teenage girls and a pre-teen boy, but it's not okay for them to be arrogant because they say they are Christians and - darn them for being human - don't always act in a Christian manner. It all makes sense to me now.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 1:48 pm
Hmmm... I can see describing the Weavers as arrogant because they think they are superior to others. But I don't think it's an accurate description of the Lintz's. At most I would say they are cocky -- a bit overconfident, but not thinking they are superior to others. They'll be the first to knock and make fun of themselves.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 2:04 pm
Yep Brenda, I agree. Pad, good post (as usual!)
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 2:15 pm
The Linzes, Paolos and Godlewskis have all felt they were superior to the Weavers, hence their actions and words.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 2:17 pm
LOL, NT, smack me too, 'cause I don't get it either. 
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 2:21 pm
I never really felt that any team thought they were more superior to another team or more entitled. I do think some teams understand that this is a contest, race, competition better than other teams. I also think some teams are enjoying themselves more than other teams.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 2:23 pm
Pad, I have to agree with you. <57> It seems that being popular with other racers is now a bad thing...even though the Linz children have gone out of their way to foster positive relationships with so many teams. I'll never forget the happiness other teams showed when they saw the Linz children or the way the Linz children have offered words of encouragement to so many of the other teams. I also forgot one of my favorite moments this past week: when the Buffalo Bill name came up and they immediately thought of Silence of the Lambs and started with the "it will put the lotion on its skin" line! LOL! That was totally the first thing I thought of, too.
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Iheartkaysar
Member
08-16-2005
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 2:24 pm
I think next week's "incident" b/t Rolly and the Linz boy will be very telling. From the previews, it looks like BOTH go running towards the same spot (ie knowing they will run into one another), then we hear Mrs. Weaver screeching "Don't touch him!" If that is how it happens, it will be a perfect example of why I don't like the Weavers. They want to be competitive, but are upset when the other teams are too; they also make themselves the victim in every situation (ex. the "snotty wave" from Meighan). Yes, the Linz BOYS are goofy and cocky and loud. But in my experience, most people their age are like that. Once in while, they'll make rude comments (ex. Mrs. Weaver as a witch), but for the most part, their comments have been funny and said in good humour. Many of those comments have been directed at themselves. And they don't feel they're better than the other teams, they're just competing against them. I know many others have said this, but if it was only one, maybe two teams who disliked the Weavers, I would say they're being treated unfairly. But no one (save the Gaghans who would have something nice to say about everyone) seems to like them. There's more than what we're seeing. While I'm cheering for the Linz family, I'd be happy with a Bransen win. I do agree with the posters, though, who feel the daughters don't always treat their father with respect. He's giving it everything he has. It'll be an intense last episode!
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 2:27 pm
Oh, yeah, another thing! The Weavers are guaranteed at least third place in this game, a position they arrived at, as Phil pointed out, with absolutely no help from anyone except - dare I say it? - God who really does listen to all prayers even if they are about a game. ETA: I haven't seen any jock bashing. I for one like the Linz family.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 2:30 pm
I do believe that God listens to all prayers. I believe that with every fiber in my body. But I don't believe they had divine intervention.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 2:30 pm
I honestly have not seen anything to indicate that any of the families thought they were superior to the Weavers. In fact I have seen the exact opposite.
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Iheartkaysar
Member
08-16-2005
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 2:35 pm
But did they have any fun reaching third place all on their own? Regardless of the outcome, teams like the Bransens and the Linzes will have loved being in the race. If God did have a hand in them getting so far in the race, I wish God was a Saskatchewan Roughrider fan (a little joke for my fellow Canadians). PS I don't mean any disrespect, just a joke!
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 2:38 pm
But no one (save the Gaghans who would have something nice to say about everyone) seems to like them. That's not an accurate statement. Out of 9 other teams besides the Weavers, the Linzes, Godlewskis, Paolos and the Schroders are the only teams I have heard express a great dislike for the Weavers. IMO, every competitor has a certain degree of arrogance.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 3:05 pm
Why do some think the Linz's "act" like they think they are better than others, simply because they are self confident and enjoying them selves... but don't think the Weavers "act" like they are better than the other teams, even though the Weavers are the ONLY team to actually state those words exactly...??? That's what I don't get.... Self-confidence and giving the Weavers as good as they get equals the highschool mentality of "I"m better than YOU".... but actually saying "We're better than anyone in this race..." doesn't??? I can remember many times where I've heard one of the Weavers tell another Weaver..."We are better than them..." or "We are the only good people on in this race"... Can't remember a single instance of any of the Linz's saying those words.... To me the Weavers are arrogant and elitists...
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Chalupa
Member
09-21-2005
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 3:19 pm
"Out of 9 other teams besides the Weavers, the Linzes, Godlewskis, Paolos and the Schroders are the only teams I have heard express a great dislike for the Weavers."} I think we also have to add the Aiello's here, as per the airport incident where it seemed they were annoyed with the Weavers for a little more than just ignoring their question (at least it seemed to me there was more to it than that). Therefore, thats 5 other teams in the race. We know the Gaghans wouldn't say anything since they seem to be the nicest family on the planet (lol), which leaves the Blacks (who we barely got to know, and who themselves barely got to know the Weavers), the Rogers (who I can barely remember lol) and the Bransons (who haven't said anything about the Weavers but do at times seem confused by their actions i.e staying in their trailer all the time). If I went on a race such as this, and found out that at least half of the teams (if not more) seemed to not like me, I would take a look at my actions because I'm adult enough to realize that most likely it's something I did and its not just everyone ganging up on me. That is why I find it hard to believe that it is just everyone rallying around the so-called "popular" kids (Linzes) that leads to the dislike of the Weavers by the other teams, and that something we don't know about must have led to this. Kep421...i also agree with everything you posted!
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 3:32 pm
Yes, it's safe to say the Aiellos didn't like the Weavers either: RNO interview Also, in their Finish Line appearance, I think the Gaghans said they got along with the Weavers during the race but didn't like what they saw on TV.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 4:21 pm
Native: quote:The Weaver team has 2 teenage girls and a pre-teen boy, but it's not okay for them to be arrogant because they say they are Christians and - darn them for being human - don't always act in a Christian manner.
To be perfectly honest, I don't think they've acted in a Christian manner at all, ever. Other than invoking a prayer at the drop of a hat, they've done far to many things that are not acting in "a Christian manner." And I may not be Christian (about as far as you can get actually) but I do remember the Golden Rule. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Seems to me it's not a two-way street with the Weavers. It's OK for THEM to make game plays (telling the ranger to slow the team down), but it's not OK for another team to make game plays at them. Chalupa: {If I went on a race such as this, and found out that at least half of the teams (if not more) seemed to not like me, I would take a look at my actions because I'm adult enough to realize that most likely it's something I did and its not just everyone ganging up on me. } I said that earlier this season... if it was just one team having a problem with the Weavers, then I'd wonder if it was the one team. But since it's more than one team, I have to think it's the Weavers with the problem, and not all the other teams. And I do think it's more likely most of the teams had problems with the Weavers. Or saw that there were problems with the Weavers.
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 5:26 pm
O.K., so the Weavers have a problem. Now what??!!?? Talk about beating a dead horse! Gosh.
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Stopjustwatchin
Member
08-19-2005
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 8:23 pm
Alright...I just have to say that I have nothing new to add, only that I agree with almost everything stated since my last post. LOL So to sum everything up: the Linzes are just having fun, enjoying themselves. Typical early-20s behavior. As are the Bransens. The Weavers are not.
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 10:55 pm
there seem to be two dead horses being beat here. the 'don't care for the weaver family' horse and the 'stick up for the weaver family' horse. everyone should feel entitled to post their humble opinions. there are posts both supporting and not supporting the weavers. now, gimme my whip!
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 10:59 pm
for me, the teams are like chocolate. the bransens and the linz' are semi-sweet and the weaver's are baker's chocolate. destined to be bitter, unless they can find a few sweet things to add to the mix.
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Iheartkaysar
Member
08-16-2005
| Friday, December 09, 2005 - 2:22 am
Tabbyking, you've combined chocolate and "TAR", two of my favourite things. . .
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, December 09, 2005 - 7:46 am
Unless a moderator tells me I can't post here, I'll continue to post my opinions. And my opinion is that I don't like the Weavers. I will probably never like the Weavers. You, of course, are entitled to your own opinion. BTW, I don't see the Linzes as being arrogant at all. In fact, I see them as readily admitting when they don't know something (the Wild Bill vs Paul Bunyon bit, for example). I see them as confident, as they are a strong (physically) team. And I really don't see "frat boy", but then again, I've never hung out with frat boyz so I have no idea how they act. What I do see is a team having fun with the race. And to be perfectly honest, I think that's half the game. If you go on this show and you are not having fun, why are you there? To get rich quick? To get famous? Sorry, but I think TAR is more about the experience, and the million bucks is just frosting on the cake. I think the Bransens and Linzes are there for the experience *and* the money. I think the Weavers are there for the money only. Another thing... if nothing else, road-tripping around America can be an enjoyable and educational event. Definitely an opportunity to learn about other geographic locations, people, and cultures. Including the Mormons in Utah, and the spectacular scenery there.
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