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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 9:30 pm
I think Spawn of Satan is a big overboard.
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 9:46 pm
julie, rob also said meredith maybe pushed gretchen or they faked the entire injury.
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Producerchic
Member
06-29-2004
| Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 10:07 pm
for the person who asked about why Deana was always driving... I remember Ray telling her that that is her role...
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 10:51 pm
wow! imagine being 'assigned' a role... i was surprised to hear he proposed at christmas, but more surprised to hear she accepted.
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Riviere
Member
09-09-2000
| Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 11:23 pm
After seeing more than enough of Amber & Rob on their shows, I really didn't like them on my TV every Tuesday night, but what can ya do? Yes that's true Rob early on bribed the shuttle to not pick up anyone else, so he's shocked nobody wants to share their taxi with him? And his asking Amber over and over, what do YOU want to do? Umm, Rob should watch Amber's stint where all she did was follow Jerri saying as little as her vocal chords allowed.. IF team Romber wins TAR, goody for them.. TAR will have lost a loyal fan if they continue to pick up CBS's reality show losers or winners as a gimmick. TAR is the best, bar none, it always was...
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 5:15 am
On the Early Show they asked Ray and Deana how the brothers were able to beat them to the finish line. Deana said it was so dusty that they didn't see the brothers arrive.They thought they were there alone. Meanwhile, while she talked they had a film of both cars arriving and there was no dust. What gives?
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 5:16 am
I'll bet when Rob heard Lynn refer to him as Spawn of Satan, his heart swelled with pride. It appears to me, Rob knows he's an <> because he conciously works very hard to achieve that status and takes great pride when someone notices. He knows that all he has to do is smile and everyone will just bow to the overwhelming power of the "Robfather". I finally got to view my tape, and when Rob made the comment about Meredith/Gretchen being con artists, his tongue was no where near the inside of his cheek. That comment was Rob's attempt to justify why he felt no pity for their situation. I'm not saying that Rob should have given M/G anything, I believe that is a personal choice and don't see anything wrong with not helping. But Rob REALLY DOESN'T care that Gretchen was hurt, or that the cameraman was hurt. If Rob had run over a group of playing children in his race to the pit stop, he would have flashed that famous Rob grin and explained that it was all the parent's fault for not keeping their kids off the street. And the sad thing is, because of that "grin" a lot of peoples would be willing to agree with him!!! I believe that Rob has many talents and abilities that do indeed stand above most. But its such a shame that he chooses to act like a jerk. I think Rob abolutely believes he is better than anyone else and doesn't need to feel empathy or have concern for anyone not in his immediate circle. He certainly didn't like it when someone denied the all powerful Robfather a cab ride....LOL <QT>
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Kittystj
Member
08-10-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 7:02 am
I really want Rob to win...he makes the show for me.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 7:35 am
Hotels have free toothbrushes at the desk in packs with toothpaste and other sample size essentials. They got some money and clothes donations. It is all part of the game. Gretchen gets on my nerves. I am tired of Alex and Lyn whining about Rob and Amber. They chose to stop and did so very briefly as it was. They finished 3rd right behind them for cryin out loud. Would they have stopped if they were in the back of the pack? I bet not. The crew has communication devices and certainly called for help. If the teams had not seen Survivor, Rob certainly let his style be known at the start. Play for yourself and go with it. He is playing a game to win and AT LAST we see a real game. I am loving what they add to this show. They are relaxed, happy, respectful to each other and clearly having a good time. What can be better?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 7:55 am
I just don't see why Rob was so NOT willing to offer a little help to G/M. Does he see them as a threat? And just for the record, A/L did not whine about R/A in this past episode until the very end when they did not offer any help at the accident...
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 8:26 am
I don't think Rob considers any of the other contestants in this race as a threat. He has stated his and Amber's superiority over the others in a couple of past episodes. I also think he is one of those self centered people who feels that he is the only one who is entitled to receive assistance (like A/L should have shared their cab, locals showing them the way, etc.)
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 8:43 am
Julie, A/L have done nothing but gritch and moan about A/R since the start. They seem obsessed with them!!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 8:47 am
Texannie, I re-watched the entire 2 hour show last night and the only time (in that 2 hr. episode) that they bitched about them was at the very end-and only after R/A didn't stop at the accident. (Now in past episodes, yes I did see/hear the gripe) But I am jut talking about in this past episode.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 9:02 am
quote:Play for yourself and go with it.
And get all pissy as soon as someone else plays that way to your detriment. I guess it's just my dislike of the whole "everyone else had to got through the application procees and Romber just had to say 'yes' when asked" thing that makes me see supreme hypocrisy in Rob's "So that's how you want to play the game" comment after Lynn and Alex refused to share a cab. That's how Romber played from day one, but I guess turn about isn't fair play in their eyes.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 9:11 am
Hear hear Prisonerno6!! Rob is only relaxed and happy when he thinks he's manipulating those around him. The only teams I think are truly happy, relaxed (as anyone can be in this game) and are respectful not just to each other, but others as well, are U/J and the brothers. I liked the brothers early in the race, and last night my heart really went out to them. I am rooting for either of those teams...I would be happy if either won....
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Hot_chick
Member
07-09-2004
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 9:13 am
I just have to say a couple of things... I like Rob, Amber can go home, but Rob is Fun. I wish, however, the producers of this show would realize that with a Sudo-Celebrity couple like Rob and Amber they may have an unfair advantage over the other teams. Now I think Rob is playing the only game he knows how, and it works for him. But I don't believe that that couple would have made it as far as they have without the helping hands of their adoring fans. None of the other teams have strangers completely falling over them to help then advance. I do think that the other teams can ask or even beg for assistance form the locals, and some might actually get a good helper like Jonathon did. But really would Amber have asked for help? I don't think so. Help just falls in her lap and she doesn't have to do anything for it. Anyway that is my 2 cents. I think they have an unfair advantage over all of the other teams. I hope that the other teams prove to be better racers than Rob and Amber and leave them in the dust even with their advantages.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 10:31 am
We know from past seasons that any number of racers got the "gig" through their agents, so I hardly think Rob and Amber are alone in probably not just applying with a tape. That happens on all reality shows. I'm with MsBat.. what she said just now.. Except that I don't think, at the time Gretchen mentioned losing the toothbrushes, that they had had any chance to get to a hotel.. in the clip where Phil interviewed them, HE mentioned that there they were on those iron beds in that clearing. From what Meredith said they did get to shop for food but Gretchen was still worried about money so he only bought two bananas and they had peanuts and someone gave them leftover french fries. She was laughing and saying she wanted to lose ten pounds anyway. All I can say about Rob is that he speaks with irony, IMO. I don't think he gets "pissy" except as an act. But even if he does, he just joins the other teams in being equally or more "pissy", so, oh well. I don't think he thinks he's superior.. he's clearly said they've had great luck at times. He does have a belief that he can win and he doesn't seem about to give up. Nothing wrong with that. TAR is a race and each team can and should use whatever advantage they have.. but this isn't some challenge set up to be free of outside influences, on the contrary it is often the luck of the draw.. cab drivers, differences in vehicles, the whims of ticket sellers, completely different information given to different teams on directions, language barriers and so on.. that's The Amazing Race. And the teams have to deal with that as best they can. The contest vs love-fest dichotomy exists on all reality shows. That's why we love to discuss it. Personally I think the "Family TAR VIII" is far more a threat to The Amazing Race than Rob and Amber could ever be. Many people are hating them/their participation but reportedly many people are watching the show for the very first time, and I know I'm not alone in enjoying this season far more than some others, especially the most recent one.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 11:02 am
I have no problem with Rob and Amber not stopping to help since someone was already there. But, unlike every other team, they didn't even roll down the window and ask if anyone was hurt or if help was needed. They may have hated their fellow competitors but the one who was injured was a cameraman (and since they switch crews every leg, maybe even someone who already worked with them). To top it off, Rob still feels compelled to smirk as he drives by. What possible justification could there be for that?
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 11:03 am
I remember (and I hope they show it in the recap) in a very early show (maybe the first or second one) Rob clearly stated that he and Amber were better than any other team. He has reiterated that statment at other times since. Now Rob fans will say that comment was said with humor, or was just a sign of confidence in themselves, but if any other team had said those exact words I don't think Rob fans would find it quite so amusing. I think when you like someone, or something about that person tickles your "fancy" as it were, you tend to overlook or find excuses for behavior you would find offensive or unacceptable in someone else. The flip side is also true. When you develop a dislike for someone, then it becomes difficult to see anything positive about them. I know if Rob were to make a charitable comment about someone, or actually help someone in any way, I would be asking myself what he's getting out of it. But Rob will most likely remain true to himself and I won't get the opportunity to ask myself that....
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 11:12 am
For me, the biggest "strike" against Rob is that he would not offer any shirt, money, food, or anything to Gretchen and Meredith. I really don't care if he makes deals with bus drivers or gets help from Survivor fans or even says mean things to the camera. I am not gonna root against him just cuz he & Amber already won Survivor money. The fact that not only did he not he refuse any help to G/M, but he made the comments that they are con artists--that seems like sour grapes or something. That just makes me think he is not charming. If he did help them and still did all the other stuff, then I would think he was alright.. And it sure did seem like Amber reverted to Jerri's patsy when Rob asked her to make a decision. I am thinking maybe the editing made her look so "mute."
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 11:23 am
Why should he have helped them? It would have been nice, but why is it necessary? Why is it considered bad sportsmanship? Isn't this a race? Rob and Deanna didn't either. Why is no one railing about that? Because they aren't in it anymore? Does that negate the fact? It's a race. The first team wins. Why should you aid your competitors?
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 11:25 am
Just want to add......I didn't care for Rob at all during Survivor and Amber was just sort of their. But this is a race.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 11:28 am
How is offering a shirt or pair of socks giving a competitor an edge? I'm not saying that Rob/Amber should have helped, like I said before, its a personal decision and I don't think there is anything wrong with deciding to NOT help someone. But I don't understand how showing compassion for a fellow competitor is giving them an advantage. Are we saying that had Rob given Meredith a pair of socks and then Meredith beat Rob to the pit stop, it was the socks that did it?
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 11:32 am
When Rob/Amber and Ray/Deana went by, Lynn/Alex were already stopped with the brothers, two camera teams and two guides (each vehicl}e had a guide because of driving in that sandy area) and two sets of radios. After Lynn/Alex and their support team left, others came by and were waved on.
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Montana_jones
Member
05-26-2004
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 11:34 am
Personally, I LOVE watching Rob and Amber. They're the first team in my memory (admitadly short and selective at times!) that has really played the game with gusto. Rob 'stealing' the cab from the two blondies was priceless. And bribing the bus driver not to open the back doors was a great move, made even greater by the fact that he collected bribe money from other teams, and then didn't pitch in himself! Yes, it's sneaky, but it makes great TV. He's using every trick he can think of, in a game that has been ruled by too much niceness. NO, I don't want everyone to be mean all the time, that would just get boring. But Rob and Amber make me laugh, and that's keeping me watching TAR. That said, I was a little shocked that they didn't even pull over when the brothers crashed. At least the other teams rolled down the window and yelled "do you need help" or whatever. I'm sure we didn't see the whole picture, what with editing and all. And I'm betting the editors are making sure we see Rob and Amber in the 'sneakiest' light. I also agree with a previous poster that Amber has just been going along with whatever Rob says. Surely he knows that about her by now. They've been together long enough for that to have come up before. And she is usually the one that responds to people recognizing them from Survivor. So she is contributing to the 'team' in that way, as I think people are more willing to help out because she's so gracious about the recognition. Let me also point out that it's usually Rob who is chatting up the locals, where ever they go. He always says a warm hi and thank you to the cabbies or service people, whereas I've noticed other teams hardly give those people a glance. I haven't enjoyed watching a team this much since Team Cha-Cha-Cha a couple of years ago! Cheers, and good watching!
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