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Azriel
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 6:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL! Neetka, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel!

(I agree with you 100%)

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 6:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
sunshyne, the 4-hour penalty isn't new...last season, Hayden quit the key Roadblock, and got a 4-hour penalty.

Now a detour is another matter. In season 1, a team didn't do either option on a detour, and got hit with a 24-hour penalty. My guess is that since a Roadblock can only be done by one person, while a detour can be done by both, and they have 2 options, not doing a detour is considered to be worse than quitting a roadblock (and remember, Rob had started doing it. I'd have had more of a problem if he didn't even attempt it--I'd figure that if they don't make a bonafide effort at the RB, they get a 24-hour penalty.) This is probably a one-time occurance.....not all Roadblocks could potentially take that long, and the other teams are now wise to Rob's antics.

Sassynegal
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01-21-2005

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think it was brillant! Especially getting the other teams to quit too. It's in the rules but no team has ever used it before! I can't wait to watch this show wondering what he'll come up with next.

Don't hate the player hate the game!

Chieko
Member

11-20-2003

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
"I believe that this something new....maybe even created 'on the spot' by the producers when their SPECIAL team R&A is going to be unable/REFUSES to finish the challenge. I truly believe that if this option was common knowledge that the other EARLY teams would have definitely done the option. "
Probably Rob and Amber just studied the rules a little closer than everyone else.


Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lynn and Alex annoy me but I have to say not as much as Meredith and Gretchen or Susan and Patrick.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 8:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I like Gretchen & Meredith a lot. They never fight and are always nice.

I also like Patrick & Susan and Lynn & Alex...

I don't think I don't like anybody. (But Rob is starting to wear thin....)

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Gretchen and Meredith never fight? Meredith never fights but Gretchen treats him like crap.

All I know about Susan is that I wouldnt treat my kid the way she treated Patrick at the competition. She should step up to the plate the next time and scarf down 4 lbs of food.

Heyltslori
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09-15-2001

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Have there been other times when the team coming in first for that leg didn't win a reward?

Neetka
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02-09-2005

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jeff Probst and Dennis Miller giggled over how AR will never be the same - and the majority of people who post seem to think the same, and seem to be delighted by it.

I agree, AR is going to change after this. Contestants will no longer try to simply race well, it will all be about who can bend the rules the furthest, who can manipulate the other teams the best, who can get away with the sneakest tactics. Honorable play will be a thing of the past, because it's so much cuter and 'entertaining' to watch someone smile and wink at the camera in celebration of how they just got away with something.

Do you all think you are going to find it just as entertaining when every team in the race is trying to outdo each other in the same tactics? All the commentary and delight over past 'bickering' teams led to Jonathan and Victoria. I shudder to think what Rob is going to lead to a few seasons down the road.

It makes me want to weep to see what they are doing to my favorite show

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 9:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
How is this any different that choosing to yield a contestant?

Landi
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07-29-2002

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 9:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
with TAR8 still to film, i'm sure that phil and company will close the loophole in their rules, or assess a larger penalty.

the big reason this worked, is that rob convinced other people it was in their best interest to also quit the challenge. they DID not have to do that. he took a big risk that this could have blown up in his face. i don't blame rob at all. now if it had backfired, wouldn't you have all said "oh that rob, what a stupid move." i give him kudos for doing what it took.

also remember that quitting a challenge has happened before and people have taken the penalty and it has backfired. specifically hayden and aaron in the last challenge. she gave up. in their case it cost them to be eliminated. in rob's case they just dropped to 5th. but they are approximately 2 1/2 hours behind. can they make it up? we shall see.


Cliotheleo
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03-13-2002

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i don't think anything would make me like rob unless i found out he and amber were playing for charity. ~ tabbyking

It would be a no-win situation. Folks are giving Ron a hard time because he quietly told one person he'd give his money to charity. It would be worse if Rob did it (although not from you necessarily.)

Azriel, it would not have made any difference. If Rob and Amber had been penalized from the time they got to the pit stop, they would have simply gotten there four hours before they did.

Dogdoc, in a way, the eliminated team DOES win a trip. I don't know about now, but several seasons ago a friend of a friend of mine was one of the two older ladies that were eliminated after taking the wrong flight. They were then promptly sent to a beach in Mexico to wait for the other teams to finish. (At the time the "prize" was a trip to Cancun or Cabo, not Paris like it is now.) I would imagine that's still the case.

Cliotheleo
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03-13-2002

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lori, the first team to arrive is not always given a prize. It has happened more and more frequently as the seasons have progressed.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ditto Landi!!!!

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I never watched Survivor before Vanuatu, so I went into this not having any feelings about Rob and Amber (by the way, is she even in this game?). What I really have a problem with is Rob's self-righteousness about being accused of lying. He did lie, and everyone knows it, so to go on and on about it weeks later just really gets on my nerves. I keep hearing the Law and Order commercial whenever I see him, the one where McCoy says, "You're a liar, and now the jury knows you're a liar." He's so smarmy about everything!

Cliotheleo
Member

03-13-2002

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL! Yeah Merry, you would have been miserable watching Rob on Survivor. They should have called the Marquesas season "Boston Rob: The Art of Lying about Lying." But that's what makes him so much fun to watch.

As for Amber, not playing (or at least letting Rob do all the hard/dirty work) that strategy has already won her a $1 million, why change now? I wish I had her job. All she has to do is show up and look cute.

Heyltslori
Member

09-15-2001

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Clio! I thought it had happened at least once before, but I wasn't sure.

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Doesn't each person have to do half of the challenges though this season like last season?

Landi
Member

07-29-2002

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
yep, half of the roadblocks must be completed by each team member. that was explained at the first roadblock. from the looks of it, once a team member is committed to participating in the roadblock, the other team member cannot take over. such as the case of deana and ray. she was stuck having to either complete the challenge or drop out of it and take the penalty.

Hippyt
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06-15-2001

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 10:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought what Rob did was brilliant! The only thing I take issue with is the challenge itself. Eat 4 POUNDS of meat? That's ridiculous! I would watch Fear Factor if I wanted to see people throwing up.
Go Rob,you stayed in the game and you didn't have to puke on tv again!

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yep that was great strategy. If that was 4lbs of sushi I would be in heaven. :-)

Lorie
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08-29-2003

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
4 lbs of anything would be too much for me!! And I'm in the group of loving Rob. I liked him on both Survivors and I like him even more now. I like how fast he thinks. Very smart in my opinion. I want to see them go far in this game. But alas, we will probably see them yielded soon!!

Azlen
Member

08-27-2000

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have to chuckle a bit with anyone who thinks that the game has been played honorably up until now. People lying about needing doctors, about needing to get home to sick children, misleading someone into thinking they had the wrong flag etc. etc. The four hour penalties have been there for awhile, this is just the first time someone has used it to their advantage.
Rob has latched on to one very important concept, until the final leg, the objective isn't to finish first, its to not finish last. With all the bunching that they have, any lead is erased quickly.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i don't think the game has been played honorably up until now. i just don't think rob has ever played anything honorably! i guess it's just his M.O. to test all the rules.
maybe i lived in boston too long?! i just 'knew' a lot of his type then. men who had no dinner reservations but would slip the maitre 'd a bill and suddenly be at the top of the list, etc.
i have lived in san francisco and oakland and nyc and spent a lot of time in chicago... and i never saw such 'finaglers' as i did in beantown! there was always a way around the rules.

Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
4 lbs of ribs is 3+ lbs of bones. The fat in it is what makes one want to throw up. btw, blood sausage & sweetbreads(thymus gland) are delicious.