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Rslover
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11-19-2002

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Speaking of eating a lot of beef...
115 LB. GIRL EATS 6LB HAMBURGER IN LESS THAN 3 HOURS!

Lexie_girl
Member

07-30-2004

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tabby... that was the point I was trying to make. I think when they read the clue the first time - they missed the part about "going through the Andes." That's how I interpreted what happened to them.

Spear
Member

08-06-2001

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Rslover, Sonya Thomas (105 lbs.) has a number of competitive eating records, including a 9-lb burger in 48 min, 10 sec!

http://www.ifoce.com/eaters.php?action=detail&sn=20

She is probably the second best "athlete" in the "sport".


Gina8642
Member

06-01-2001

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 1:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ophiliasgrandma - last season there were two 36 hour pitstops (Ethiopia and the chinese city (Xi something)) and the rest were 12 hours. In cases of emergency they can make a 12 hour pitstop into a 36 hour one. They did that at least once when a large percentage of the crew came down with severe food poisoning. Former racers answer all sorts of "insider" type questions like this one at TWoP at http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=623659&st=2265&#entry2660096. There's fantastic info there and you don't need to be a member to browse. (Posting is trickier - the moderator is pretty rude to new posters and to anyone who disagrees with her.)

Unfortunately for the racers the pitstops aren't just a rest period. They have to do both mat interview and the later sitdown interview with Phil. I imagine that takes quit awhile to get through all the teams. They also have the opportunity to eat (for free). Eating is communal with the other teams and everything is filmed but rarely added to the show. (I guess they want to be prepared for drama in case in breaks out.) So, even if you are dead tired, I don't think you can just call room service and chill.

Speaking of the food challenge - there is a interesting Insider Video up at the CBS website. Apparently Patrick was also trying to be sneaky and work the rules in his favor. He actually had officially "quit" when Bianca and Debbie arrived. He planned to pretend that he hadn't quit in a attempt to entice Debbie or Bianca to eat slowly (that is, his penalty would be up before the woman finished). However, since Debbie started eating so fast, he had to resume eating or else Bianca/Debbie would have beaten his team this leg.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 3:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
There has been a lot of talk about Rob manipulating the other two teams into quitting in the food challenge. Yes, he did and to his advantage, but do not forget it was also to their advantage. It is quite possible that at least one of those teams might not have finished or might have ended up seriously ill from eating all that meat. He did not trick them into it, he just pointed out the rules and the advantage and they made up their own minds. I see nothing wrong with that. If the producers did not want it to happen, they would not have put it into the rules.

The last couple of years I have been amused at the indignation when someone gets yielded. The teams take it as a personal affront, almost like it is wrong for them do do so. And yet, I do not doubt that any team would yield any other team if it meant the difference in the race. If they do not then they are fools. I will be interested to see how the teams react this year. Can't wait for it to happen.

Rslover
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11-19-2002

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Spear,
She doesn't even look like she weights 105 lbs. Where the heck did she put that food? I always wondered if they swallowed a tapeworm before. I wanted to vomit just reading the list.

Spear
Member

08-06-2001

Friday, March 18, 2005 - 3:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Gina8642, in this interview with Hayden, she says there were four 36-hr pitstops last season. (?)

http://realityreel.com/unscripted_reality_television_episode_summaries_modload-News-article-1058.htm

quote:

Hayden: Yeah, we only had an actual washer and dryer in Sweden; otherwise we were washing our clothes by hand in sinks and bathtubs, and then we slept for about 5hrs in the 12 hr pit stops. In the four 36 hr pit stops during the race we slept for about 16 hrs straight.




Watching2
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07-07-2001

Friday, March 18, 2005 - 8:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the problem with the food challenge was maybe 1/2 of how much it was and 1/2 of what IT WAS! It's one thing to eat hamburger which you are used to eating and another to eat various kinds of "parts" you're not used to in addition to the spices and whatever else they do to the food to make it as they eat it there. There's no way I could have eaten any of those things I've seen in the past few seasons. I'd be so sick I might even have to leave the race. The only thing I "might" have been able to eat, was the huge egg, depending on whether it was cooked OK. LOL I have a really touchy GI tract and I'd have to make an agreement ahead of time that my partner did the eating roadblocks and then pray that I could do the others. Oh heck, I'd just suck at most of what they have to do. LOL

Hootyhoot
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12-18-2001

Friday, March 18, 2005 - 8:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Clio ... you're not alone in thinking Rob on Big Brother would be an absolute hoot! They ought to pay him to be on! ... Between the people who love him and the people who love to hate him, he'd bring a whole new audience to the show!

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Friday, March 18, 2005 - 3:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Spear - I must have read an interview with someone who went earlier and only got two. So, four it is!

Spear
Member

08-06-2001

Friday, March 18, 2005 - 4:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Gina, from the TWoP link you posted, it seems the racers themselves aren't always clear on what really happened during the race so Hayden might be wrong, too! I see that Brennan from TAR1 thinks that Mirna from TAR5 was mistaken (I posted her comment earlier in this thread) and that the 4-hour Roadblock penalty has existed since TAR1.

I wish the producers would just let us see the complete rule book. I can understand why they don't want to bog down the show with such details but I don't see how it would hurt to have it available on the web site.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 6:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought watching the last episode that Rob wasn't clear on the rules either. That's why he was asking "what happens if I quit" or something to that effect as he stood up from eating. He was asking the producers for a clarification on the rules so he and Amber could figure out their options.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 10:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Even if he had memorized the rule book, it was only common sense to get a ruling. And I'm sure the producers wanted it mentioned out loud. He may have been crystal clear. Only he and Amber can answer that, in time. Remember, he told Jeff Probst that he was going to digest the rules before going.

Scout
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01-20-2005

Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 11:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If the producers really had a problem with a team choosing to take a penalty instead of finishing the task, the easiest way to remedy that would be to not let teams know what the penalty is (or confirm what they think it is). Instead of an immediate four hours, they would just move on to the pit stop and would then be told what the penalty would be, or where they ended up placing because of it.

I don't think they want that to happen now since it's original and actually not a bad strategy, but in the future, if it got to the point where many teams would simply ask the producers on the spot what the penalty would be and then decide what to do, and too many people were simply sitting out of the race, then they could do what I mentioned earlier, and wait to tell them their penalty time.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The other reason that worked for Rob is he had a few teams still behind him. If they were in last place that would not have worked

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Right.. it didn't work for Hayden..

and since we know the penalty was four hours last year (and evidently was an option in previous TARs) then Rob also may have known (I'm not sure if they filmed TAR IV before TAR III aired or not..

Marej
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09-20-2002

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 9:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Imagine Rob on TAR 6, with Jonathon.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am now imagining Rob on TAR 6 with Jonathon and realizing that he wouldn't tolerate Jonathan too well. Rob may be scheming, cunning and diabolical at times but he is a decent human being who knows exactly what he is doing and thrives on playing the game with strategy. I think he would see Jonathan as a totally dysfunctional person who couldn't hold a candle to him and his strategies. And, I do believe he would be right! He would not like seeing how Jonathan treated his wife or screamed and yelled when things didn't go his way.

I think Rob truly loves being who he is and knows exactly how he comes across to others. He just seems very confident in who he is and knows what he is all about. Jonathan, on the other hand, had trouble facing the reality of who he is and how he appeared to others.

Calamity
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10-18-2001

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, if Brennan is correct and it's always been only a 4 hour penalty for not completing a Roadblock, then why is (was?) the Detour penalty 24 hours? (Such as when Nancy & Emily, convinced they were already out of the Race, gave up finishing a Detour. This was the same leg where Team Guido bungled their FF and probably would have been eliminated if Nancy & Emily hadn't gotten that 24-hour penalty.)

Hmm...wait a minute, I just checked the CBS TAR1 site and here's what it says: "Phil told them (Team Guido) that they were the last Team to arrive, but because Nancy & Emily made a conscious decision not to do the required Detour task, they would receive a twenty-four hour penalty, required by the rules for any decision to skip a task, and therefore, would be eliminated from the race. Nancy & Emily never thought that they could, in fact, have beaten Team Guido had they not "thrown in the towel." Ultimately, Team Guido did benefit from the luck they won at the Reclining Buddha shrine."

Suppose they could have changed it for the Detour too, but I think it's a crummy move.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The producers have to be careful, because they could lose the show if a task were to prove too difficult for a number of teams. Having a lesser penalty prevents this. Plus a four hour penalty that starts when the next team arrives would normally be very significant. This strategy was only possible because Rob and Amber were so far ahead and the task was so difficult to complete.

Calamity
Member

10-18-2001

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I still would prefer the show feature more reasonable tasks rather than less severe penalties. Requiring them to binge on huge amounts of food is stupid, boring, and unhealthy, imho.

And fwiw, I think there's a greater risk to the show if teams decide that quitting tasks is a viable option. Don't know about others but I sure don't want to watch that. And at least in the past teams could opt for the FF if a task proved too difficult but now there's only a couple of FFs per Race.

Jimmer
Member

08-30-2000

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree. Even food eating challenges could be fun with the opportunity to try unusual foods that are enjoyed in a particular country, but in reasonable quantities. I think that it’s unfortunate when so much is weighted on one task. The two woman and the hay bales in last season comes to mind, where they did their absolute best, didn’t quit and still were unable to avoid elimination, purely as the result of bad luck.

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Miss Alli over at TWOP said it really well (better than I could, but my sentiments exactly). Here tis:

Quote:

You know, there were a few posts in the forums this week about the whole matter of quitting the Meatblock and what it means for the show and whatnot, and for me it all came down to how dumb I think volume-based eating challenges are in the first place. I can get behind facing down a legitimate fear in a mind-over-matter way, and I can similarly get at least moderately behind eating unfamiliar and initially "strange" food as a mind-over-matter enterprise. But this isn't really a mind-over-matter enterprise. It's literally a matter of eating until you get sick, and it seems like one of the major skills involved, at least for some of these people, is being able to get yourself to throw up so you can eat more. I cannot stress enough how little interest I have in seeing people challenged to eat until they get sick. . . . Just because a thing is something that your body will rebel against doesn't actually make doing it an accomplishment or anything that's particularly enjoyable to watch. Competitive eating for volume as a campy spectacle I can tolerate. I can even eye its devotees with an odd combination of affection and puzzlement. But that doesn't make it a "triumph of the human spirit" situation. I hate these challenges so much, in short, that I wasn't attached to the completion of this one as anything to admire.


http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/story.cgi?show=76&story=7678&page=12&sort=&limit=

Spear
Member

08-06-2001

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 3:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Calamity, I think a possible reason for the 24-hour Detour penalty was mentioned by Wilsonatmd earlier in this thread. In a Detour, you can change your mind and try both options (and you can try them more than once, which I think happened to Gary and Dave in TAR2). You also have both team members participating. Therefore, there's less reason to quit a Detour. With a Roadblock, you can't switch members if you realize you chose the wrong member to do it.

I haven't heard one way or the other if the Detour penalty has changed.