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Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 10:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
you never share lipstick or eye make-up. i wouldn't share anything, actually, but make-up that goes near bodily fluids can really carry bacteria. i hope kelly has a huge cold sore next week LOL

another show of rob and amber using someone for an entire day...who knows how long things would have taken them if they had had to think of where exactly to go next.
i really hope they don't win this thing....

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 10:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
gretchen's voice reminds me of marion ross, who played mrs. c on 'happy days' and drew's mom on 'the drew carey show'. i think they did real well on this show and i'm proud of them.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 10:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sometimes I think she's semi-channeling Edith Bunker, too.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 10:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
clio, you consider ron to be a blond? i'll have to look harder because i swear he has fairly dark brown hair! we did have to get a new tv today, so i'll see if the color is more accurate. our old tv was 16 years old and it was taking 15-20 minutes to warm up to where you had anything but black at the top and bottom and pink and white squiggly lines throughout the middle. this morning was the final straw when the tv warmed up but spent exactly 20 seconds of each minute with a picture that was shaking up and down.
hard to believe how cheap tvs are these days. our old 27" (emerson) cost over 500 bucks at costco in 1989. this 32 inch (sanyo) cost 247 bucks at walmart. hope it lasts 16 years, too!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 10:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sea, thanks for that extra info!!!! LOL at Edith!

Starshine40
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07-30-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 1:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pixieduster said, "Rob/Amber discussed who to yield tonight. I think the smarter choice would have been to yield U/J. Could be a million dollar bad choice."

I agree. I believe it would have been smarter to yield U & J as they were further behind anyway and they are the best of the 2 teams that were behind. That would have probably put them in 4th place and would have caused them to be eliminated tonight leaving only R/K & M/G as competition.



Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 4:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't understand the rules last night during the Brains/Brawn segments. Rob/Amber were allowed to have someone help them at every step of the Brains task, yet Uchenna wasn't allowed to help Meredith and Gretchen with even one of the 5 heavy boats...

I'm sure there are "loopholes" in the rules that allow this kind of thing, but it sure seemed very biased and unfair to me. I guess TAR really does want to ensure that their "stars" make it to the end.

I don't believe Rob/Amber would have made it very far in this game if they had been disallowed their extra companions. For most of this race, Rob/Amber have been a 3 person team competing against 2 person teams. Its not my show, so I don't make the rules, but it just doesn't seem "kosher" to me...but...oh well!!!

To me Meredith and Gretchen are better competitors than Rob/Amber because they managed to get this far in this game with way less help and assistance. So much for the "old" people...Way to go M/G!!!!

Lve2laff
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01-16-2004

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 4:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree. At one point last night, I thought "these two have extra help EVERY task." There has to be some sort of loophole closed in this show. I love it--will continue to watch it, but having locals help them every step of the way seems like cheating.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 4:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes, way to go Meredith and Gretchen!

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 4:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just looked up "whirling dervish" on the internet and found out that it is a sacred muslim dance. I was impressed by it. This was a good episode but I get bored anytime they deal with airports.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 4:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I missed the exact time but M/G were on the early show around 7:40.



Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 5:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The teams are not allowed to help another team complete a task. Enlisting locals is another story. Most challenges are manned by a local who is told not to help but when it comes to public places if you can get someone to lead you somewhere or push, of course. This happens EVERY season.

Gretchen and Meredith have gotten huge amounts of help from other teams. Clothes, money, plane/bus tickets, etc. It has benefited the teams who help them because they wanted to push Rob and Amber back in the pack by helping G/M progress. This happens on Survivor too. It is a smart strategy when it works.

I agree Pixie. Rob lost sight of who would be in the final three, he just wanted to be first this leg. He failed to realize that they would be bunched in an airport again. It would have been far better to have Gretchen and Meredith on the final leg so they would have had only one team to beat.

I think his logic was that he wanted an hour+ lead to catch the first flight out leaving the others way behind on the final leg.

Ron is doing a fabulous job in the role of pompous idiot. I understand Kelly's anger a little more after tonight.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 5:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I loved the whirling dervish segment. I had seen a special about them on Discovery once. I also noticed that everyone has something nice to say about them except Rob/Amber....whose comment was..."they look dead"...

Cliotheleo
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03-13-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 6:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
CayCaye ~ I understand that Kelly is hurt, but all I know is Ron's the one I see mainly calling her "baby" and reaching over to kiss her etc. That may be due to editing but Ron is certainly coming across like he's holding up his end of the bargain so to speak.

What we should be MORE surprised about when it comes to Kelly borrowing the lady's lipstick is that the lady didn't say, "no, that's ok, you keep it."

Tabby, Ron's hair is dark blonde.

Where does the "teams aren't allowed to help one another" rule fall into the "when we get to the ticket booth we'll get tickets for you guys to" practice. I always hated that. Have they out lawed that now? If they haven't, I don't see any difference in doing that and helping a competing team stack a boat.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 6:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maybe because it was a PHYSICAL task and that was the point of it instead of doing the other task, they weren't allowed help. I believe it was on their clues so they could decide upfront whether they thought they could do it. That said, M&G didn't end up all that far behind U&J. The yield really didn't benefit R&A either. They stayed in the same place and now they just have anomosity from R&K.

As far as R&K go - Ron might say some ignorant sounding things, but Kelly is one of those people who are very hard to apologize to. Believe me I know - I live with one! They just have to get over it in their own time and nothing you say or do will make a bit of difference. They were all yelling at each other during the bus driving roadblock, even J&U. As much as Gretchen would yell at M, he always acted like she had never done it by the time they finished or if ever, that I can recall!

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 7:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't understand how Kelly could be upset over this breakup. It may be editing, but I haven't seen any love from her for Ron. She is very critical of him and sometimes acts like she outright can't stand him.

Personally I think she's a bit of a drama queen, and would actually enjoy the attention she is sure to receive as the injured party with unrequited love. *insert whimpering voice here* How could this cruel heartless man lead her on and then not love her? PUHHH LEAAASE!!!

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Clio, what I was more surprised at was that Kelly even considered asking to borrow the lipstick. I was hoping they would at least show her wiping off the end before using it herself.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 7:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Dark brown maybe but certainly not blond!


Csnog
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07-18-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kelly has been in many pagents and they are probably used to asking others to try their lipstick. Who knows how desperate she was to not have dry lips.

I don't understand why she is pushing for a commitment during a 30 day race unless they are being asked direct questions by the crew.

A lot of racers use the locals during the race but some don't. It has been done since the first season.
I don't think anyone can help with a task such as a roadblock or detour. A penalty is given on that.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 7:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Didn't Ron and Kelly ask for directions and for the answers to the Sherlock Holmes stuff too? Granted the guy traveled with Rob and Amber (and I loved it when he left and Rob looked at the camera and said "We're on our own now - OH NO!") but it's not like they were dragging him unwillingly....

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think stopping passerbys and asking for information or directions is a bit different than carrying along your own personal guide and "clue solver". I guess it wouldn't have felt so sleazy to me if the carry along companions were receiving compensation for their extended assistance.

I think if anyone utilizes a local by having them travel part of the course with them, then that local should be compensated with a bargained amount. But that's just me...

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Everyone in this race has asked for and received help at one time or another. Yes, Rob and Amber are recognized and that has certainly helped them. But I think the biggest difference is that while others are constantly stopping to ask for help, R/A will ask a person to stay with them.

I loved the expressions when R/K were asking people about the three nude men.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
These teams get help all the time from local people in completing various tasks. If R/A are smart enough to find someone good who will help them for an extended period and it is within the rules then it’s all part of the game. Other teams including R/K are fully aware that they are doing this and even participated when it was to their advantage.

And, yes R/A may be benefiting from their appearance on Survivor but simply being on TAR and running around with camera crews creates enough of a stir that people want to help. Look at the help and reception M/G got in India, with cheering crowds and people helping and asking for their autographs. That had nothing to do with them being famous and on Survivor!

The teams can help each other as well during the race (by following each other, giving directions, etc.). However, they can not help each other complete detours and roadblocks. Otherwise, Uchenna could offer to drive a bus for M/G and potentially help them to beat R/K or vice versa. That just wouldn’t make sense.

Rob and Amber have received more prizes simply because they have come in first so many times that the odds are better. Plain and simple.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Rats!!! Just when you have a good conspiracy theory going...someone comes along and ruins it with logic...

...I still think those helpful "locals" were plants!!!

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Rob and Amber have gotten more prizes because when they finished first they always get a prize. Others have finished first and gotten nothing.