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Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 3:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lol Bob!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 3:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Since we're all in the mood to express....

Bob, I kinda thought so to begin with-- if the brothers had cause the car to break down by inducing the accident even though they did not mean to flip it.
But how could that be a 100% truth? We, or more importantly, the producers, had no way to determent that fact. The car could have trouble to begin with....

Second thing I want to share which I'd posted days ago, is this: What can any team actually help the brothers? I say unless they'd tried to talk the production into allowing the unlucky team to piggy-back in their car, any "Can we help?" is just faking it.
If any team had offered to give the brothers seats in their car, you bet it'd have made it on tv.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the "can we help" questions were to see if they needed to call for aid for the injured cameraman, or go get help for them perhaps; rather than volunteering to help them in the race.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 3:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, unless that question was posted seconds or minutes after the accident, there'd be no point.

By the time R & A drove by, there bound to be oodles of people around already. The fact that there were other camera person there to film when Alex & Lynn stopped tells me that.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 3:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't think there were "oodles" of people around, just two teams and their crews? It's certainly possible that the answer could have been, hey, we've got it covered here, but can you tell them up ahead about the accident? Or do you know what to do if someone has a head injury? Or as basic as do you have any water?

Could have been a very simple thing to help that they might well have been able to offer.

It seems to me, Rob didn't stop because he has an attitude of being nice to everyone *except* the other teams. Unless another team can help them. It's his choice to run that way. It's my choice to find it less than admirable.

Gen
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08-22-2003

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 4:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
We are all told to keep going when there is an accident along the road we are driving on. Don't rubber-neck, keep moving. Allow the emergency crews room to get in there. The only time it would be good to stop is when you personally have medical skills that would be useful and the emergency crews aren't there yet.

I sure that neither Rob nor Amber have any medical training. So they did the right thing!

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Gen, it wasn't exactly rush hour. :-) It was a fairly deserted sand road with not much traffic if any) other than the racers.....

And they knew them! Wouldn't you stop too, if it was someone you knew? I would. All they had to do was stop right there, hang out the window, express some interest and say "can I do anything?" No traffic to block....

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 4:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
As I remember it, they have a crew of two with the camera.. one with camera, one with boom mic of some sort. In this leg, in these vehicles it said somewhere that they each had a "guide" along for the ride. So it seems like there were two teams of camerapeople/guide, one of whom was hurt, plus the two brothers and Lynn and Alex, at a minimu, when Ron and then Rob drove by. In addition the camera crews in each of their vehicles had radio contact which the TAR teams could hear.

I don't see any point in stopping except for "face time".. to look good.

Anyway thankfully, there will be a new episode to deconstruct tonight

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 4:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes, Seamonkey. We will have yet another reason to defend this, most marvelous, team.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 5:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
*chuckles at Karuuna* less than admirable... what a perfect way to describe Rob's gameplay...*jots notation in notebook for future reference*

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Now, now, MsBat, maybe Rob will save an adorable baby elephant, to the strains of "The Circle of Life" tonight...

<snicker>

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 6:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ROTF Sea!!!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
These two have just enjoyed themselves so much. It's really fun to watch them.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Did you hear him complimenting Ambuh tonight? He was such a contrast w/ the way Ron was treating Kelly -- Rob looked like a gentleman! He also didn't berate Ambuh for deciding not to do the balancing thing -- just said, let's go get the goats! If I were Kelly, I'd have been tempted to dump that bucket of water on Ron's head at that point -- (and later, I would have wanted to tie Kelly up w/ one of the trees in the road if I were Ron! LOL)



Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The contrast between the first two teams was stark tonight.. Rob and Amber would be waxing eloquent about how lucky they are and loving the animals (along with almost all the teams) and Kelly would be making ugly faces and sneering into the camera.. not to mention making his comments worse and trumping them with her own bad words..

Anyway.. I'm glad they had fun.

Teach.. actually Amber did her first balancing and was starting on her second part and it was Rob having the hard time and then they switched.. and he was so supportive with her milking the goats.. Nice to see and hear.

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 10:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
He did not save a baby elephant but he was very nice to the goats.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 4:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL!!!!! Sea. (Circle of Light)

I really love these guys.

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 5:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I started LOL when Rob passed the animals tonight, I kept hearing CIrcle of Life in my head!!!
LOL Sea!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 9:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well I did just see The Lion King.. too bad the TAR people couldn't pay to use some of that music in these episodes.. but they certainly got some great footage of animals.. loved the warthog or whatever that was and the HIPPOS! Just an amazing place for them to be..

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think The Lion King was set in Kenya and Tanzania, which is quite a ways away from Botswana.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the music would have a more universal appeal, though.. I really just meant for the animal scenes. I thought it was mostly set in a cartoon landscape anyway, with talking and singing lions, warthogs, meerkats, etc..

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
When L&A couldn't identify that animal, I wanted to shout at my screen, "It's a warthog! It's a warthog! Remember Timon and Pumbaa?" Funny how so many Americans' main contact with the animal kingdom of an entire continent came from a cartoon.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Bastable, if you are here, tell us if you have been to Botswana and if so, are there really all that many animals roaming around? Or if anybody else knows or paid attention - were they driving through a wildlife park last night? I found it rather incredible that they would see ALL those animals from a car.

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 1:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes, I've been to Botswana (my boat was attacked by a hippo near the Okavango Delta! it was close), and yes, depending on where you are, the animals do roam. You won't find big game in the towns or cities, though smaller animals are everywhere. We know the players weren't in big towns because they were on dirt roads. Animals like elephants need a lot of room to roam--they don't do well with borders.

Although the show wasn't explicit, I get the sense they were within Moremi Game Reserve for much of the game last night, since the Khwai River Lodge (the pit stop) is five miles from the gate of it. That would explain why there were so many animals--outside of game reserves, they'd be more easily killed or culled. Their presence in a game reserve would also explain why the Road Block (moving dead wood) had such a low impact on the environment. It would also explain why it was so crucial for U&J to remove the pole as well as the ribbon--so that nothing related to the game was left behind in the sanctuary.

The game reserves in Africa are generally huge. Kruger National Park in South Africa is the size of Massachusetts. And you can just jump in a rental car and drive along and see all kinds of incredible animals--no guide needed. I have photos of elephants in my rear-view mirror. But you can't get out of your car or you risk being attacked--the animals are used to cars but aren't used to people, and they get frightened if a person gets out of a car and breaks the shape of their car.

The important thing to know about Botswana is that more than just about any other southern African country, it has an enlightened government that has realized that the preservation of the environment is crucial to its future. It has done an excellent job (in terms of Africa) of keeping development in check and of keeping its attractions more or less exclusive/luxury in order to stave off destruction wrought in the name of attracting tourism. Also, politically speaking, most of its neighbors--Namibia, Angola, and Zimbabwe--have had a rather bad time of it in the past generation, so Botswana's stock just keeps going up and up since it's the only country in the zone that can reliably host international tourists.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 3:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was so excited to see the warthog and how fast it moved.. I used to be hooked on Africam back in the day when it was wonderful and free, but usually we saw animals moving slowly (or the cams capturing frame by frame) as they came into the waterholes.. we would se ellies and giraffes, lions, all sorts of small animals and large moths, hippos and hyena. I remember spending HOURS once just watching (with a chatroom full of people world wide plus a ranger there on site) just watching for a huge spider to come out of a hole.. we got some great screen captures.. sometimes they'd just focus on dung beetles for us. The best ever was watching one cam at dawn and each day the vervet monkies would suddenly appear and do their best to sabotage the cams.. did a good number on them too.. you'd see a close up face, or a tail and then the camera would suddenly be pointed at the ground or the sky and the ranger would have to drive all the way out and deal with the aftermath of the "Velvet Vervet Marauders".

But I was laughing to see how agile that warthog was!!

Such great memories, Bastable!! And I'm glad that TAR seems to be respectful in the small details too.. hopefully that includes not dropping those rip-off strips on the clues, like they used to show in early seasons.

Those hippos must have been something else when you were in that boat.