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Pcakes2
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08-29-2001

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have not read any of this thread, but I'm sure it was discussed. I am very disappointed in American Airlines....with all the airport security procedures, the doors closed, etc...the fact that they let U & J on the plane is astonishing. I can honestly say that (unless absolutely necessary), I will not be using American Airlines anytime soon.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
pcakes, the flight was closed to rob and amber, too, and they got on. my guess is the camera and sound people made it seem pretty unrisky for them to add these people to the flight.
actually, there were other flights rob and amber got on that were supposedly 'closed', too, so you can't just blame AA

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Didn't American Airlines provide all the trips for AR last season? I think someone pulled some strings there to make the final leg more exciting. And it worked. Great ending. As usual though, the tasks after the flight on the final leg seemed too brief, luck plays so much of a factor.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tabby, but doors closed and the plane still sitting there is very different to the chute thing retracted and the plane pulled away from the gate! That's a whole different level of service!

Pcakes2
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08-29-2001

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tabby, the outer doors were not closed, and the jetway wasn't pulled back when Rob & Amber boarded.

ETA: this isn't a Romber or J & U issue...not a comment about who won...this is something much more serious than a race...this is a comment about security, rather, lack there of it, and how an airline choses to operate.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i have had planes stop for me, too.
i had a plane stop for one of the kennedys when he was still in our dental office. they stopped that flight for an hour! kennedy was in newton centre at least 45 minutes from the airport and he was still in the dental chair when he had me call to hold that closed flight!

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
pcakes they were still told the flight was 'closed'. closed should mean the same closed for everyone. if romber made it, there is no reason joyce and ucchena shouldn't have made it. sometimes when flights are going to be backed up for 20 minutes on the runway, they will reopen a flight. it happens.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
To be standing at the gate/door at American, they would had to have already gone through security, yes? The big security question once you're at the gate and gone through the metal detectors is whether your checked bags match up -- so unless I'm missing something, I don't really think them getting on the plane at that point after having gone through metal detectors, etc. was a security concern. (Or am I dense and missing something?)

I thought them re-opening the doors was quite unusual, but who's to say that the producers had anything to do with it...? EVEN if American Airlines only let them on because they realized U/J were with Amazing Race (which is likely), that was AMERICAN'S decision. Other teams have gotten help because of their notoriety or because they were part of the race in the past. The way I see it, sometimes people are cut some slack, as happened in this case, and sometimes they are not -- as happened previously in the season with the backpacks, etc. It doesn't mean the race is rigged, it just means that there are many factors out of anyone's total control, IMO.

And yes, Joyce did ask Uchenna just to go through the gate at the end, and U said that he had to do right by the cabbie. That made me even HAPPIER to see them win -- they could have easily said, "screw you, buddy -- we'll catch you after we've won our million."

I was quite happy with the outcome of this season.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Do you mean the Kennedys as in Ted Kennedy et al? They probably have a similar amount of pull as CBS .

Pcakes2
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08-29-2001

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Perhaps it was in the editing, but R&A were approaching the boarding gate when the announcement was made for the last boarding call.



Pcakes2
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08-29-2001

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Once the cabin door is closed...it should remain closed. I'm not trying to argue the point, and I am happy for J&U....just unhappy with American Airlines.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pcakes, I am stunned that you would say that.

Seriously, unless there is an emergency you will not use AA by what you saw tonight?

(i understand that AA has a bad reputation...but not to use them because of what you watched on an edited version of tonight's show?)



Pcakes2
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08-29-2001

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes, I fly quite often, and I take airline security procedures very seriously.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
and what you see on reality shows too!

p.s.....i thnk we all take airline security procedures very seriously, especially after 9/11)

PLEASE, don't take this as an attack on your post.
Just my opinion. I loved tonight's finale. Really enjoyed the show. (and I assume you did too even with what AA did)

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
they had all gone through security.
if it had been rob and amber who got on at the time joyce and ucchena did, i have a feeling there would be less questions asked here! the plane was held for romber and it was held for J/U/
rob and amber got tons of breaks. joyce and ucchena got one. good for them!


Pcakes2
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08-29-2001

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I enjoyed the finale also. I didn't take it as an attack. Just saw something I didn't like, and will make my future flying decision based upon it.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the whole airline thing is completely bogus. After all, it was not just Rob/Amber and Joyce/Uchenna who got on the plane, but also the camera teams that were covering them.

They're supposedly on standby and can run on the plane and they have room for all these people? Puh-leese.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i rewatched my tape and rob and amber were told by two different groups that the flight was 'closed'.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I've been on standby before, and when I got on the plane, it was half-empty. It does happen.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
you are right, puzzled. standby on a closed flight would make me think! perhaps airline people are coached on what to say for this race? it would make things seem 'hairier' and 'close shaves', etc., for people to somehow get through both a closed flight and standby, which should have been non-existent at that point! there were obviously enough seats for 4 racers and 4 camera and sound guys!

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pcakes, thank you for not taking it as an attack. I do agree that you should base future flying decisions on what you know to be best for you.

Pcakes2
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08-29-2001

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tabby, you're missing my point, or trying to bait me into a discussion/arguement. The cabin door was not closed when Rob & Amber boarded, the jetway was not pulled back. It was when J&U boarded. I stated my opinion about an airline, and a choice I have made...not about a team....don't turn this into a R&A vs. U&J thing.

FWIW, when I refer to airline security procedures, I am not refering to going thru security...that is airport security. I am talking about how an airline operates and what procedures they follow.



Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
not ted, joseph p. kennedy III, robert's son.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
pcakes i am not trying to bait you or start an argument. i just stated how i saw it and felt about it. the flight was closed for both teams.
you have your opinion and i have mine. period.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pcakes, what's up? It sounds like you are the one upset. This has been a very friendly, fun thread.