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Moderator
Moderator
06-30-2002
| Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 10:21 am
Thank you, folks! lying in wait, Bob? 
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Bob2112
Member
06-12-2002
| Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 10:54 am
I guess that is better than Lying in State. 
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 11:55 am
LOL!!!! Lexie loves a moderator with a sense of humor...
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Hot_chick
Member
07-09-2004
| Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 1:16 pm
I don't like Amber, never have, I don't think that she adds anything really good to the show. I do like Rob but I wish that he would grow up a bit. I thought that his antics were funny, and even verging on smart, what I didn't like about him is that he wouldn't admit them when confronted. "Did you" ... "NO!! How dare you accue me of that!!" I would love to see Rob come out and say "Ya I did it, and there is nothing you can do about it!!" That would be fun. Then I would be behind him full foced. But I don't think he has what it takes. In the end I think it will bite them both in the butt. IMO
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 1:24 pm
and I like Rob's sense of humor AND I never ever thought I'd be saying that. I didn't like him in his own Survivor season, liked him a bit more in All Stars and I was severely prejudiced against their team prior to episode one, but I decided to start them equal to the other teams and judge them based on TAR Season VII and so far I'm really enjoying them! I'm also impressed with the smart playing, the part that has nothing to do with trickery or winking..
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Realbiz
Member
10-24-2002
| Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 1:54 pm
go romber 
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Neetka
Member
02-09-2005
| Friday, March 11, 2005 - 6:42 am
I was not happy to see Rob and Amber as contestants in this race, but I did think they would be smart players and would go far. So far, I've changed that opinion. Bribing the bus driver to keep the door closed was one of the most boneheaded moves I've ever seen - what did they gain? A 30 second lead early in the race? The ill-will that act generated was simply not worth the return. Getting information from the guard at the bus station and asking him not to tell anyone else is a smart move - bribing him not to tell anyone else and then lying when you get caught is unnecessarily dumb. The bribe was unnecessary - it didn't bring them any more 'silence' than asking the guard not to tell, it depleted their funds, and it reinforced the perception of people who have more money than they need. Lying when he got caught is just more of the Rob schtick of 'oh look at me, I'm so manipulative' - if they were playing smart they would be trying to convince people they are NOT as manipulative as their reputation, not trying to confirm it. This is not intelligent play and my biggest regret is that all the 'romber' publicity is going to make future races think this is the right way to play the game. My only hope at this point is that they will either give up playing to the camera and start playing the game, or that they will be eliminated early so future players don't try to emulate them.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Friday, March 11, 2005 - 9:18 am
It's apparently unclear to the rest of the cast who caused the bus door not to open. Lynn blamed Ron in the Insider Video clips.
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Calamity
Member
10-18-2001
| Friday, March 11, 2005 - 1:12 pm
Neetka: I second your concern that Rob's behavior might influence future racers. Out-thinking your opponents is one thing, deliberately sabotaging them is another. (This has always been my main complaint about the Yield and is also why I wished that during that first leg Patrick focused less on getting Rob & Amber and more on running the darn Race.) Many people disliked Project Runway's Wendy for approaching that contest as a Survivor-like game and I feel the same way about Rob and his backstabbing, scheming ways infecting my beloved TAR, lol. And as I wrote before, I'm also put off by his playing to the cameras. He's shiny, slick, and smug and it's just like watching an Old Navy ad come to life. *Shudder* Spear: Yep, I didn't even like Big Tom or Rupert but still thought Rob's comments about them were way out of line. TAR4's Kelly (a fun-loving, smart, and strong competitor not unlike Rob) was ripped for her teasing comments about some of her fellow competitors but Rob seems to get a free pass for what he said. Double standard, maybe? Then again, I did like Kelly so maybe that makes me the hypocrite, lol. Over the seasons, I've cheered for some of the most notorious TAR teams ever. Maybe not for them to win but at least to do well because I admire their strength, determination, and skill. So I don't think one could say that I'm biased against Rob & Amber because they play rough. Nor have I ever said that this team doesn't deserve to win TAR because they've already won Survivor. Maybe I'll come around to liking them. Maybe I won't. It'll be interesting to see. Oh I almost forgot...someone told me Rob participated in yet another reality show after his stints on Survivor and before being on TAR. Is he trying to set a world record or something, lol? P.S. Still like Phil!
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, March 11, 2005 - 3:16 pm
Gina8642, there is also an Insider clip where Ray says it was his idea to bribe the bus driver but he's perfectly willing to let Rob take the credit (or blame).
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Sassynegal
Member
01-21-2005
| Friday, March 11, 2005 - 3:50 pm
What I wonder is if it wasn't Boston Rob doing these things if people would mind so much?????
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Friday, March 11, 2005 - 5:15 pm
IMO - no, they wouldn't. Rob is doing exactly the same stuff we've seen in previous seasons. I never remember seeing this degree of condemnation, some, but not this much.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, March 11, 2005 - 5:46 pm
Well remember people got very mad at team Guido...
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Friday, March 11, 2005 - 11:24 pm
i would definitely be upset with any team that played how rob is playing. condemnation is for the acts, not the person...it just happens to be the bad boy of boston so many times, and i for one, am sick of his schtick. in other TAR's there were teams i really liked that went straight downhill with me if they played rotten. or were total <RA>...as the legal eagles!
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Katbry
Member
10-27-2004
| Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 12:56 am
I also was not crazy @ Rob/Amber being on the show; however, I do find myself liking them because there is already a relationship formed. And, afterall, it is a game!!! I would not necessarily play it this way, but you must give him credit for thinking it through and "outwitting". I am sure the others just wish they thought of it first!!!
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 10:36 am
<QT> i think i just expected more out of two female attorneys...like maybe they would play the way rob is now?! i remember liking the guidos at first, but once they shoved someone (the mom,nancy, i think it was) they bothered me. i think one of my all-time favorite teams was team cha-cha-cha, who took time out to shop for colognes, etc., and the frat boys were a lot of fun, too.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 10:42 am
Part of the reason that games have rules is to prevent people from playing "dirty" or unfairly. It's like comparing baseball and football. A baseball player can't tackle the runner, but in football it is all part of the game. Rob and Amber are playing within the rules or they would have been penalised. Plus other teams have joined them in their little endeavours so it's not like they are being ostracised for it. Anyway, it's all a matter of what you enjoy watching and I enjoy it when teams look for good strategies to get ahead and defeat their opponents. What will be interesting is to see Rob and Amber's reaction if other teams try to do the same stuff back at them. If they react well and take it as part of the game, then they will have gained my full respect as players. By the way, I've discovered through experience on this board that it's okay to say that someone played a dumb game but it's not okay to say that someone is dumb. A small but important distinction on this board. Hope that helps. 
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 4:27 pm
Just to be clear... I did not Rob and Amber (separate or together) when they were on Survivor. I did not like the underhanded way Rob played (lying is one thing, but the absolute glee he shows when he does it is another). I do not like them now. I was sorry to see Megan and Heidi go, and very surprised at the reaction of Brian and Greg. (Tears?) I guess they must've gotten pretty close in the days they've spent together racing? A few other misc comments: -- Not so sure I like Lynn and Alex. One of 'em (Lynn?) has made some pretty snarky comments about people and locales. -- Meredith and Gretchen... I don't think these two are long for the game. Why is it that the older couples always seem to flounder? Although they DID move the donkeys in a very smart way (he led, she followed and smacked their behinds). -- I'd like to see Susan and Patrick go further, but I suspect they aren't gonna be able to make it much further either. I don't see them with much of a "drive" to make it thru to the front of the pack. It's funny how the decisions made during the detours really affect the outcome. Making a wrong choice on more than one occasion can almost guarantee you to stay close to the end of the pack. And that's a bad place to hang out, as y'all well know! <grin>
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 6:55 pm
My all time favorite contestants were the clowns. If they ever have an "all star" AR, I hope they are on there.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 8:07 pm
The clowns were great, but IMO the best of all time were Kevin and Drew in the very first season. I was literally LOL at some of their antics and comments. It’s interesting how a person’s perception of the players can affect their feelings. For example, I think that Patrick has shown many and more of the characteristics that some have attributed to Rob. For example, his obsession to directly target and eliminate another team, the pettiness that he has demonstrated, playing to and smirking at the cameras, etc. And yet some of the people who dislike Rob’s play for similar reasons like the way Patrick is playing the game and are cheering for him to succeed. I just like people who are competitive, have fun and are not abusive to their partners or the other players. So far, I think that both Rob and Patrick could fall into that category.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 8:58 pm
I loved Kevin and Drew and Team Cha Cha Cha and Gus and Hera, among others. The clowns had too many instances of not being nice, so any humor the provided was lost on me. And Jimmer, yep.. there isn't always logic to who we like and who we don't like. Guess that is good because most teams have at least one fan (besides their families).
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 9:45 pm
It does make it fun doesn't it, how the characteristics a person can find appealing in one player are disliked in another? With respect to the clowns, I honestly can't recall a situation where they weren't nice (but I've probably just forgotten it). They have had a lot of good teams over the seasons. So many good moments. Gus in that bar for one thing, trying to sneak another beer. Kevin and Drew with the camels. Lots of good laughs.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 10:27 pm
Bringing up baseball totally made me think of an anology to TAR. In baseball it is ok to steal bases. The "stealing" is done in a sneaky manner and can seem a bit underhanded, but it well within the rules. That's exactly where I see Rob's bribes. It is sneaky, but well within the rules.
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Hootyhoot
Member
12-18-2001
| Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 8:55 am
In the first Survivor Rob was on, I didn't like him, although I certainly thought he was entertaining. In the All-Star Survivor, I started out ready to dislike him, but then watching him fall in love was so appealing (although I was prepared to find out it was just part of his game ... or even that it was part of Amber's game) ... So, when it turned out to be the real thing, he totally won me over! Now I'm totally enjoying Rob and Amber. I don't care if they win or not, but I'm enjoying their more-than-15-minutes of fame and the longer they are around, good for them! I think their style of play is very assertive, but I bet they read the rule book twice! I read somewhere that even before the show started, the other teams were making disparaging comments about Rob and Amber ... so in a way, those teams set themselves up to be played hard.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 1:02 pm
Sea, I think you are confusing the clowns with someone else, they were never anything but nice!
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 1:08 pm
Yes, didn't the clowns often stop to help other players who were having difficulty, rather than see it as their advantage? I seem to recall them stopping to help one of the women who had fallen in the airport. I did get a little tired of the red noses, though! 
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 1:19 pm
The clowns were wonderful. I remember that they stopped and stayed with one of the teams where the woman was having trouble breathing - and they weren't remotely in an alliance with them. The clowns popularity was 96% the last time I looked at the AR website! They made it along way through the race and I was sorry when they lost. Their elimination was just one of those things where the particular leg of the race didn't go perfectly for them - it wasn't bad play on their part.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 1:23 pm
I'm not confusing the clowns with anyone else. I'm only recalling my reactions to how they went off on Tian and Jaree and how some of their other "humor" fell flat. For me. Just my opinion. And frankly, in the last seasons, they wouldn't have hit the radar as mean in comparison with some of the teams, but in season four.. that's how they came across to me. Hey, I liked the Guidos and was in the minority there, I'm sure.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 3:25 pm
I too liked the Guidos a lot and could not understand why they were so unliked.
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