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Mocha
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08-12-2001

Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 4:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Actually there are rules about playing the lottery after a big win I think. Or is that when you win something on a radio station?

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 4:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I did not like Rob either time he was on Survivor. I do not even remember Amber the first time and only remember her the second time because she was hooked up with Rob and won. I was prepared to dislike them on TAR. It had nothing to do with them being on another show. That is the rules of this game as the producers set it up and they are only playing by the rules. If anyone else got the chance to compete for another million would they turn it down just because it was "not fair?" I think not. I do not hold that against them.

However, I was surprised to find myself liking Rob. Amber again makes little impression. I found him very funny. He seemed to take the game seriously while not taking himself seriously. I like how he just does not let anything bother him, and he treats Amber with love and respect.

My opinion of him may very well change again depending on his behavior, but for right now, I find myself pulling for him. His comments to the camera were no more annoying to me than any of the others.

Actually the POW and the beauty queen were the ones that annoyed me. My reaction to them again surprised me because I expected to like them. They were just so obvious in their blantant attempt to become "the all American couple" as she put it.

I did not find any of the teams completely obnoxious, unlike last year. While there was some sniping at each other, there was little of the abrasive and abusive behavior we saw last time. Of course it is early yet and they have an opportunity to make (bad word deleted here) of themselves.

I am looking forward to this season a lot.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 5:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just checking in here after finally viewing the first episode.. will read this thread in time but just off the top of my head..

Now, I'm rooting for Rob and Amber!

I still think it wasn't necessary to have them on this show, but they are there and some of the other teams seem completely fixated on them, or on beating them, or even cheating them.. and Rob and Amber, while not playing a perfect game by any means, haven't been trashing each other, are still playing pretty smart and strong AND seem to be able to enjoy each other and the race and the countries. So

GO Rob and Amber!!

Sheesh.. some sorta sour ones already.. I would have liked the arguing girls and the arguing couple to be last, but no..

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
NOT liking the mother and son, together or separately, and I really wanted to like them, too.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 8:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'll gladly fall in the disliking Rob and Amber camp. I didn't like them on Survivor and nothing about them makes me like them on TAR. I could care less that they've already won their million. I don't much think I would want to see Rupert on TAR, either.

I was laughing each time they showed the bubba's and had to put subtitles when they spoke.

They reminded me of Boomhouer from King of the Hill...

It would have been an absolute hoot if'n they'd a'stayed 'rownd longer.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 8:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i laughed out loud when rob couldn't even figure out how to open the trunk of the first car!
for me, that was typical kinda 'duncy' rob.
he looks like he gained a ton of weight, too, so maybe he won't be fast in a foot race.

i really do miss the guys who look like they make moonshine in the backwoods. they were a hoot and the subtitles did make me smile. put me in mind of 'big tom' on survivor when they had to subtitle for his mumbling/accent.

i do like the mom and son and his anti-romber comments don't bother me (so far). it would be nice to see a parent/child go a long way in this show.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 11:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I have to say that Rob and Amber have gotten one of my friends to watch the show. She never had before, which I couldn't believe since she loves reality. Finally, she has given the show a chance and loves it, so Rob and Amber did their job. If we get more viewers, more shows. I don't think they will win, but I am curious how many teams will spend their time worrying about them instead of the strategy of the game.

I loved those guys who lost. I do wish the first leg would be non elimination, then they could all figure it out.

Anyone going for the family race??

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, March 04, 2005 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My kids asked if we could apply. I said I don't run and the world doesn't need to see me and your father cursing each other out lol.

Halfunit
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09-02-2001

Friday, March 04, 2005 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the 4 of you would be fantastic! And, you don't have to run. Just outsmart them at the airline counters.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, March 04, 2005 - 7:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lol!

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, March 04, 2005 - 10:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Allietex, I agree with you about the POW and the Beauty Queen (sheesh - I mean who actually calls themselves the "All American couple?"). And who actually tells someone else that they are an ex-POW but "don't tell anybody." Why doesn't he just take out a billboard?

On top of that they were amazingly inept. They are going to have to do a lot to improve themselves after last week. I hope they can, but so far they aren't promising.



Csnog
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07-18-2002

Friday, March 04, 2005 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
2 daughters and 2 grandchildren applied last week but they don't give it much hope. AR made a 3 minute tape and they had to fill out a form with a lot of questions such as what are you afraid of and why do you want to race with your sister/son/daughter. What do you like/dislike about your sister/aunt/son/daughter/nephew. They also wanted to know about other family members that didn't come for the interview.

Padivius
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08-21-2003

Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm disliking Rob and Amber alot and can't wait for them to leave.

That "Craig" who helped them was extremely fake! The producers wanted to make sure Rob and Amber survived the first leg, and sent someone in to help them. It's very easy to plant someone and have them say "they saw Rob and Amber on Survivor".

Also, what are the odds that he speaks perfect English and Spanish, knows the area, and got them all the breaks to get them from last place into third. People (particularly North Americans) who travel by plane to Lima, Peru from the US have an agenda there. They don't frequently have the time to decide to cancel all their plans and follow a couple around because "they saw them on Survivor".

I was very dissappointed in that. As we go on with TAR, we're seeing more and more clues that the producers are contriving the whole thing. For that reason, the show is almost becoming disagreeable to watch because you know it's phony in too many ways.

Just my .

Lumbele
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07-12-2002

Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 1:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The only team, or rather team member, I had an immediate dislike to is Ray.
The rest I am either still indifferent to or hoping for good entertainment from.
The gay couple, the son and of course Rob sound like they could become frequent quotees in the TAR quotes thread.
Although I respected Rob for getting as far as he did in Survivor, I can't say I ever liked him. Yet during the first episode I found myself routing for him.
But this was only one show; things are apt to change and change often.LOL
Wish those good ole southern boys could have hung on longer, provided someone translated for me, of course.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If TAR is contrived as was suggested previously, I wish the producers would “contrive” more popular winners.

Seriously, if it really is set-up it’s hard to understand why they would have the less popular contestants win as often as they do. That’s the first I’ve heard of this. Have you or anyone seen any real evidence/comments elsewhere to this effect?

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
When they carried the baskets what did they do with their backpacks??

I also think backpacks were missing during the repel.

That one guy reminds me of Jonathan and he needs to go! I hate those do rags they wear.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 3:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It looks like all the backpacks were left at the side of the road by the repel - there were a couple of vans parked there. I'm thinking there were production assistents who gathered the packs and transported them back down to the village where they were picked up by the contestants prior to them boarding the truck.

Mocha
"Actually there are rules about playing the lottery after a big win I think. Or is that when you win something on a radio station?"

Most radio stations have a policy that you can only win "every 90 days" or so. You can play the Lotto, or gamble as much as you want. In fact, if you win a big jackpot, you want to show gambling losses, at least up to the amount won, to avoid paying income taxes on the winnings (just started doing my taxes and I had one royal flush that a big enough jackpot to cause the generation of a W6 so I had to declare it).

'squeek'


Allietex
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08-16-2002

Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 9:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Rob and Amber are not the first couple to get someone to go along with them and help them out. It has happened a number of times. One couple even had their guy go with them on a bus or train, don't remember which, for miles. I do remember wondering how he was going to get home.

And it is possible that the guy was an American living in Peru. It would explain why he recognized Rob and Amber.

I sincerely doubt he was a plant. That would be too easily revealed and discredit the show. The danger of that would outweigh the advantage of keeping Rob and Amber for one more show. They could not bail them out every week. To me it just does not make sense.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 9:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I also laughed at Rob not being able to open the trunk lid, while wondering what the clowns from last season,like Jonathan, would have done. I can imagine the blue clouds over his head from the language and Elizabeth's tears as he blamed her. Rob, on the other hand just laughed and made fun of himself. That I admired.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 1:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL - Victoria. Although also a name of a English queen.

Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 3:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The cynic in me agrees with Padivius that the guy was put there by producers...but I don't think they could get away with that legally, and I do think it would be foolhardy to try something like that in this age of information we live in right now. It would leak somewhere about him being put there to specifically help Rob and Amber.

And I also like Rob and Amber, and hope they do well...

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 5:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maybe the guy who helped Rob and Amber was on the plane with them. They meet, find out the guy knows Peru, he agrees to help and there you have it.

I don't believe he was a plant.

Padivius
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08-21-2003

Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 6:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
In previous incidences of a team getting help, it was from a local, who would probably be more interested in seeing the Americans and the cameras, etc.
My point was, if this guy is an American (with a name like Craig, I don't doubt it) then there are two possibilities:
Either he lives in Peru and was returning there from New York (from whence the flight came).
Or, he was vacationing in Peru.

Either way, the assumption is that he would have something specific to DO after he landed. (And not have time to go off with Rob and Amber.)

I dunno, I could be wrong, but it just seemed VERY phony when I watched it. When I got to work the next day, somebody else actually mentionned it to me, so I know I'm not the only one who noticed it.

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 7:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Only 2 possibilities?

Maybe he was going to Peru on business that was not until the next day and had that day free. That could be a third possibility.

Also, people see the cameras and know they will be on TV. In season one, somebody sold there cell phone to the winning team. That probably would not have happened if the cameras were not there. Last season someone drove around Iceland with one of the teams and it has happened inother seasons too.


Schoolmarm
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02-18-2001

Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sheesh, If "I" were on an airplane with people from the AMAZING RACE....(wouldn't the camera crew give it away...and also on a LONG flight you really get to know the people around you!) I would certainly help them out. I am a return visitor to many places and could certainly help racers out in Germanic countries.

On international flights you find MANY people who are multi-lingual and are repeat visitors to the same countries.

Most of us who "hop the pond" try to build in an extra day on each side of travel to sleep and get rid of the jet lag. I would be HAPPY to give up my sleep to help racers.

I typically help several Americans or other first time visitors to Munich when getting through customs, passport control and getting public transportation tickets. I have been the beneficiary of help in other international airports and train stations.

I don't think that the guy was a plant. It's just a part of international travel.

Anyone who has booked their travel plans THAT closely with international travel is very foolish. Planes can be hours late or early, customs can be very fast or very slow, etc. It's not like flying to your business meeting in Chicago....well, except for the DELAYS at O'Hare!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 8:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jimmer wrote:

quote:

If TAR is contrived as was suggested previously, I wish the producers would “contrive” more popular winners.

Seriously, if it really is set-up it’s hard to understand why they would have the less popular contestants win as often as they do.


Well, if you think about it... the show is filmed and in the can before the rest of the world even gets to meet the racers. So someone on the TAR production crew could think that so-and-so would be a popular player, but it turns out us in the real world don't agree!

I know they plant people around. During the racing around Peru, there was a man planted alongside the road who did not speak English. He was asked for directions, but simply stood there and shook his head. Granted, he didn't help anyone. But why was it necessary to plant someone there anyways?

And the reason why Rob and Amber might be recognized more than Alison and Donny? Well think about it. Both R&A were on Survivor (more highly rated than BB). Twice. While only Alison was on BB. Four times the exposure, and on a much more popular show.

Azriel
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08-01-2000

Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 9:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Rob said that they met the guy while waiting in the customs line. They didn't meet him on the plane.

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 10:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
<...wonders if the producers also planted some plants around Peru...>

Schoolmarm
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02-18-2001

Monday, March 07, 2005 - 6:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ah, the customs line....usually long and another great place to meet people.

I think that the FCC would have a field day if these "helpers" were plants....fixing game shows and everything!


Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, March 07, 2005 - 10:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I never dreamt Craig was a plant. You meet all sorts of people on flights and you can spend an hour in the queue at immigration in many cities (all with visitors, the locals would probably go into a different queue if Peru is like most countries), it'd be very easy to find someone to help you. Particularly if you have camera men with you and you've already been on the biggest reality show in America!

No, I don't buy the plant theory for one second. It wouldn't surprise me if they put people at the side of the road to give 'atmosphere' but individual helpers for particular teams - imho very unlikely.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, March 07, 2005 - 12:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'd be very surprised if Rob hadn't viewed past seasons of TAR and tucked away the technique of getting help. It has happened in almost every season.

I don't understand what made some guy by the side of the road who couldn't speak English a plant?

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Monday, March 07, 2005 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
People on planes give racers help all the time.

Freddy said that he and Kendra got a ton of help on their last plane flight into Chicago. Someone gave them a train pass card, so they didn't have to pay to get on the train/El and folks gave them very specific directions to the water tower. Even the pilot came over the P.A. and let them know how many minutes ahead they were from the other flight (Kris and Jon's flight).

Folks on planes like to help out.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, March 07, 2005 - 6:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sea, it was in last week's TV Guide. There was some insider info, and the plant (who couldn't speak English) was explained.

Purr.... :-)

Gina8642
Member

06-01-2001

Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Costacast - do you have a link to the TV Guide article?