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Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
In the last show, I remember Gretchen clearly saying "we never treat each other like this", and I believe that. This competition is incredibly demanding - physically and mentally, and for an older couple, not at their peak of endurance, I would think it must be that much more so.

Gretchen seems to me to be typical of many women of her era, often unsure of herself, not used to competing, not used to having to step up in such unfamiliar circumstances. Not that women of her era aren't strong and courageous in their own ways, just not much experienced in the kinds of challenges she's facing in the race. She just has that kind of 'worried' personality that sometimes gets in her way...

Her strength does come out when she is most stressed, as Jimmer pointed out. I have a feeling that she'll have much more self confidence as a result.

I doubt they'll win, but I think they have much to be proud of, even though I think that some of the reason that they are still here is because other teams have either gotten bad breaks or screwed themselves up when they might have been eliminated otherwise. (like L/A and the two brothers).

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 1:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If you view the 'behind the scenes' from the last episode, Meredith talks about how quite proud he is of Gretchen and how far out of her comfort zone she has pushed herself.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 1:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I completely agree that in real life Meredith and Gretchen are a fine couple and lovely people and also agree with your proposed explanation of her behavior, Kar.. and Padi, also agree that older couples often do nag and bicker.

That said, I don't find it entertaining to watch/hear. I give them major props for doing the race, and doing it pretty darned well at times, I just find her annoying. I suspect that annoying footage is being amplified for us, which is too bad.

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 11:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I hope Meredith got his foot treated right after they were Philiminated.. (I posted elsewhere about a blog that they had written but it was pulled of the website.. at Sucks someone posted a link to the archives), and Gretchen reported that when they did the Elephant task, the elephant wheel went over Meredith's foot, then the same foot was run over by a pedicab.. and he didn't have it treated while they remained in the race, but later found he had three broken bones! Ouch.

So, I certainly hope that they travelled in style to the finish line.

I won't miss them in the rest of the race, but of course have to admire what they accomplished.

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 4:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
>>>Gretchen seems to me to be typical of many women of her era, often unsure of herself, not used to competing, not used to having to step up in such unfamiliar circumstances. Not that women of her era aren't strong and courageous in their own ways, just not much experienced in the kinds of challenges she's facing in the race.<<<<

??????????????? huh?

She is only 66. Some would say I am in her era as she is only 7 years older than I. The description above probably fits someone well into their 70's.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 4:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They should be so proud of themselves. I feel bad for all the ripping that Gretchen got. Hope she didn't read any (or too many) websites....

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 5:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
While I am not sorry to see them go - as someone must - I liked Gretchen better last night than the whole rest of the race. She even said "Oh, my GOSH" once!



Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah, I don't feel like that is a great discription of "her era" and along with Bat, I'm not all that far behind and had all sorts of role models decades ahead of me (and Gretchen) who don't fit that description at all..

I'll just stick to saying, she, Gretchen, while wailing all the way, showed guts and determination (but couldn't have made it a mile without Meredith.. he's the grounding force there..

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Julie, she did plenty of her own ripping, and plenty of patting on the back for her team, online, so I think she can give as good as she gets. (and that was pulled offline, I just got to see a link and read some of it, and, no, I have no idea where I saw the link.. it was embedded in a thread with 140 some archives)

LOL, TNT!! I haven't been able to view it yet.. I'll be looking for the Oh my GOSH!!

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just watched the video from The Early Show and was impressed by how attractive both of them are. Meredith is 69 and Gretchen is 66. They showed them the clip of Rob saying that they were not giving M/G any money, that they were the con artists and that Meredith probably pushed Gretchen to get sympathy instead of her falling in that cave. Gretchen was saying how Meredith would probably have punched out Rob if he had heard it and, poof, the video stopped.

They did say they thought it was an unlevel playing field with R/A competing.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
*chuckles...that sounds like Gretchen!! You go girl!!

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I forgot to mention after seeing the Early Show video that all the teams knew about the flight through Frankfurt, but G/M and J/U decided it was too big of a risk because of the connecting flight being full. I would guess they had already learned of that flight before R/A got to the airport.

Csnog
Member

07-18-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 7:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh my God! Forever linked to you on TAR.

Bye Gretchen. I loved your bumbling along this season. You give us hope for our senior years.

Happymom
Member

01-20-2003

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was actually relieved for them when they were eliminated. They had to be somewhat relieved too, this race was so hard on them physically and mentally (mentally due to the lack of sleep).

Now that I don't have to listen to her voice, I can remember Gretchen very fondly and with humor. Best wishes to both of them, they are a great couple!

Wilsonatmd
Member

01-23-2001

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well you can't say they aint tough...Meredith broke his foot in India...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05125/499109.stm

Kep421
Member

08-11-2001

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
wow...I broke my pinkie toe last week and boo hooed like a baby...

I'm totally impressed...broken in 3 places...

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
WOW!! I admire him even more. WTG!

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yep I reported the broken foot in a couple of places.. I sure hope he got it treated immediately after they were eliminated.. YOUCH!

In her blog she also claimed that his foot was run over by a pedicab.

He didn't want to have it checked out because he feared they would be forced out of the race.

Babyjaxmom
Member

10-20-2002

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 5:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kep, I've broken my pinkie on at least three occasions in the past few years--one time by turning around suddenly and running into DH's foot! (Didn't realize he was right behind me.) It's incredibly painful. I could hardly walk for days and took Vicodin for the pain. I can't imagine doing the things they were doing with three broken bones in his foot! They're a pretty tough couple! As annoying as she might have been (personally, she didn't bother me that much), you've got to give them credit for hanging in there!