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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, April 25, 2005 - 12:02 pm
heck, I make so many typos, my posts rarely make sense anyway! keep posting
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 9:12 am
Shew........... that was close!
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 12:50 pm
At least they won money to USE on trips and if he's smart, he'll find another travel companion. Seeing the show didn't make the spoiler any less shocking as far as her riff on "committment". And how sad that all she can think is that it is all about her, anyway. If he's not ready to settle down, don't beat him up about it.. but why not think he lovely to do some travelling?
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 10:54 pm
Clio goes off to ready her suitcases...... But to be fair to her, I can understand her frustration. If I went on this show partly to try to build upon a long-distance relationship and try to make it more serious (and that was something Ron alluded to early on in the season) and that didn't quite pan out like I had hoped, I'm sure I would say a lot of things esp. if I were tired and frustrated. I agree that the POW comment was going too far, but I think we're officially being too hard on the girl. And with that said.......... did I mention I've got some suitcases handy? 
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 5:57 am
Pack a gnome 
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 6:28 am
Oprah had the author who wrote the book, He is just not that into you, on yesterday. He gave advice to a couple in the audience with this problem. It is fine that he does not want to marry her and fine that she wants marriage. They both need to seek another partner who shares their relationship desires. His comment. He is into you, just not that into you. It was a great show. I digress. This couple is just not going to make it. Kelly is angry and hurt. I do not fault her. We are watching the begining of the end.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 6:56 am
That guy was hysterical!
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 7:07 am
I've seen that show, what is even MORE hysterical is the women actually couldn't figure that out on their own. I think Ron and Kelly will have a hard time winning unless they are able to work together as a team inspite of their bickering. Right now their biggest competitor is each other.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 8:18 am
Yes, Texannie he was very entertaining. Cliotheleo I can understand how women, who have been in long relationships, can't see that the man who has shared their life for years is 'not that into her'. There is also much more going on there.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 3:57 pm
Just watched the video of their conversation about commitment. It was most definitely NOT tongue in cheek!!! He was really upset towards the end.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 7:46 pm
I think Ron and Kelly broke up before this season even aired, cause in all the interviews I read, they always refer to Ron as "Kelly's former boyfriend." I read somewhere that she is actually already dating someone from her church. Funny that you should mention that book (HJNTIY). I keep repeating that line whenever Ron and Kelly are on the screen!
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 2:55 pm
Well, even the poor people at E must have missed that her comment was tongue in cheek. They showed the clip on Talk Soup and said that "he would have become a POW to get away from her!!!"
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Wick1st
Member
02-10-2005
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:07 pm
I want everyone to forget that I ever said I knew this girl. I'm in shock at the behavior and the way she has given pageants a bad name. This <QT> is one of her own. Normally beauty queens do not represent themselves in such a way in public. Not saying they don't do it behind closed doors, but they certainly keep controversal opinions and personal issues to themselves or behind closed doors. This has become totally unbelievable. Both Ron and Kelly do not deserve to be in Top 3.
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Riviere
Member
09-09-2000
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 10:02 pm
I'd forgotten Kelly was in beauty pageants until she borrowed lipstick from a ticket agent. That reminded me of beauty queen Jamie on Big Brother 1 who wouldn't be caught dead without her lip gloss in place! To all military personnel past and current, Kelly's remark about Ron being a POW was a diss. She made it sound like he finagled it just to get out of his military commitment. Obviously Ron just wasn't that much into Kelly and after her snide reference it's easy to see why!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 6:14 am
I think Ron wasn't that much into Kelly way before her snide comments... (I'm guessing her comments are a way of her rationalizing why she should not be with Ron.)
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 7:19 am
Wick, we won't hold it against you. I heard a discussion on the radio last week about Trump buying all these beauty pageants and it was suggested that they be conducted like the reality shows. Instead of just seeing the glitz and gloss on stage for a couple of hours, the idea was to follow these girls around, see what kind of people they really are (as if that can really be done with cameras following you around) or at least catch them in weak or unguarded moments and let the audience vote. I don't think Kelly would be a winner.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:01 pm
Some of them have appeared on Fear Factor..
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Wick1st
Member
02-10-2005
| Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 4:49 pm
Tex -- you're right. No way had cameras followed her around would she have won a beauty pageant. Since this program aired past rumors have came to lite of her behavior during the pageant days and some say she was just like she is on the program. Very much a "me only want my way person". Its really sad that such girls make it rough on girls in pageants that are actually in them for the right reason. I can tell you one thing....age is not being good to her at all. She is not aging well at all.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, May 06, 2005 - 6:21 am
In Kelly's defense, she is realizing that this relationship is over as the race progresses and we are seeing her raw emotions and confusion. She is angry and hurt and this is what it looks like for her. Ron is passive aggressive and pushing every button she has. It is more difficult to see his part in it but it is glaring to me. She is not a reining beauty queen now and has no obligation to represent anyone in public. Every pagent winner is a real person and would not necessarily exhibit the best behavior under these circumstances. I am not a fan of this team but their situation is repeated everyday somewhere in the world. The guy is done with the relationship and has stayed too long in hopes the woman will do the breaking up. He is already emotionally disengaged and that is painful for the woman who is banging at the door wanting genuine communication. I am glad to hear she has moved on.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, May 06, 2005 - 11:07 am
Oh, Fruitbat, I agree. I have heard those little barbs and jabs that Ron has made many times and yelled at Kelly for allowing him to talk to her that way. I think that instead of calling him on it, she has tried to one-up him and it has backfired on her. If we are judging correctly by the previews for next week, we will witness the death of their relationship and I'm sure it was not only heartbreaking, but very humiliating for her to realize the whole world would see it. But I still can't get over her asking a total stranger for her lipstick. That's just too YUCK for me.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, May 06, 2005 - 12:49 pm
Kelly has been taking a lot of heat that really belongs to Ron. Glad you can see this. My Tivo did not catch the promo, damnit.
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Wick1st
Member
02-10-2005
| Friday, May 06, 2005 - 5:22 pm
I guess knowing her personally causes me to have a different opinion of the situation. She certainly needs to step back and figure out who she is before starting another relationship. In defense for Ron, I think you can only take so much badgering until you start shooting off. He's not been into her for a while. But saying that and in defense for her, she in love. Raw emotions are something women have a hard time keeping to themselves. Its unfortunate for her that she didn't have the comfort of friends and family when she started realizing that he wasn't into her at all. Have said all this --- sadly she knew before going on the race that a relationship with him was not in the cards. She used him for a trophy when she gave up her state title and he used her for a beauty trophy on a POW's arm at apprearances. They both have played into the trophy theory and never started a relationship on a personal level.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Friday, May 06, 2005 - 9:47 pm
MsBat.. I hadn't deleted my copy of the show yet.. I'll transcribe the previews over in general discussions, since it includes info on all three teams..
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Monday, May 09, 2005 - 8:36 am
Wick1st, everyone else may know about this but I missed it. Why did Kelly give up her state title?
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Wick1st
Member
02-10-2005
| Monday, May 09, 2005 - 10:26 am
You can only hold the title for a year and her reign was up. I'm saying that she used him as her escort when she crowned the new Miss SC. I didn't get it then and thought it was pretty tacky to tell everyone that she thought since he was a POW who else better to have on her arm to give up her title. Besides that, I've heard them say they had not spent any time together prior to the race. They took a big chance even running the race together and with the way they treat each other they would have been better off forgetting about each other long before the race started. I personally hope they don't win but if they do, then so be it. I've went back and watched several of the episodes and its obvious as time has went on that Ron has just gotten tired of the badgering and is fighting back. This is a nightmare date that just won't end. I can tell you that all southern girls don't act the way she has and seems desperate to get married. I'll be glad when this season is over and I don't have to hear or read about her anymore. Hopefully she has really learned about herself and will find who she is looking for. As far as Ron, I think he has growing up to do as well so I'm not just looking at her.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Monday, May 09, 2005 - 11:07 am
Thanks, Wick1st. I thought you meant she gave up the crown before the year was up.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Monday, May 09, 2005 - 12:58 pm
Seamonkey, thanks darlin'.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Monday, May 09, 2005 - 4:48 pm
Wick1st, I know you said you lived in Greenvile and know Kelly. How do you Know kelly?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, May 09, 2005 - 6:54 pm
Wick, can you clarify this sentence: I didn't get it then and thought it was pretty tacky to tell everyone that she thought since he was a POW who else better to have on her arm to give up her title.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Monday, May 09, 2005 - 7:37 pm
I’m not sure what the confusion is but maybe I can help. In the first comment she is just saying that as the race progressed Ron got tired of the way that Kelly was treating him and started responding likewise. In her second comment, she is saying that she thought it was tacky of Kelly to tell people that she thought Ron made a great public date because of his status as a former POW. Hope this helps. Wick1st can let us know if I misunderstood.
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Forum_moderator
Moderator
01-01-2004
| Monday, May 09, 2005 - 7:45 pm
OK, kids, enough with the grammar lessons <QT>
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 10:03 am
After seeing Ron and Kelly this morning on CBS's Morning Show, it is painfully obvious that this girl lives in a fantasy world. She does not now, nor did she ever "love" Ron. I honestly don't think she knows what the word means. Ron just "fit the suit", meaning that he is good looking, personable, has minor celebrity, and probably some money or access to make some, and therefore can fill the bill as suitable husband material. When she said that they only had one fight, it showed how much she is living inside her head in her fantasy. I think she blames the stress of the race for the dissolution of the relationship. She still doesn't seem to recognize that they weren't well suited for each other or that she had any part in failure of the relationship to work. I think her concept of marriage is to live happily ever after. She doesn't seem to realize that living life is stressful and people who work well together make it, and those that don't pull together often fail. I think perhaps "bride" is just next step in the resume she has created for herself. She doesn't seem to be a very giving or caring person. I could be wrong of course, due to editing, but she wasn't edited this morning and I still saw the same self-involved, concerned about appearances woman. And Ron...is no prize either. Another self-involved, let's just have fun kind of guy. Definitely not marriage material for anyone at this point...certainly not now...and who knows if he ever will be.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 10:49 am
But you have to give to credit to Ron for knowing and admitting he is not ready for a commitment, let alone marriage, right now.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 4:37 pm
As I said over in the Finale thread: "Ron and Kelly were just painful to watch. The whole time I was thinking, 'Kelly, Kelly, Kelly! He doesn't even like you or treat you nicely. Why would you want to marry him?' I would just cringe every time they told each other to shut up. So rude! We were never allowed to say that to each other when I was growing up. I can't even imagine ever saying that to my DH! If Ron treats Kelly this poorly (and she him) this early in their relationship--what should be the 'honeymoon' stage of a relationship--what would they treat each other like after they were married? {{shudder}}"
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