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Cousin_jake
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07-04-2002
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 3:53 pm
I don't think they'd have a choice about doubling up on a train in India. From what I've heard from a friend who goes back to India every couple of years to visit family, they're always very crowded. By the way, if you're a woman, travel some other way!
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 3:53 pm
What a show! I cried my eyes out when Joyce's head was shaved, I screamed shut up at Gretchen a million times, and at the end I wanted to beat Kelly to a pulp! I love this show. LOL
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Luvmyjrt
Member
09-18-2003
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 4:18 pm
I think Uchenna is an absolutely fabulous husband! The love and adoration he shows his wife is so touching! I hope this show helps them to get the children they want, since I know that they will pass on this love! Gretchen, on the other hand, drives me INSANE! Riding on the elephant? Does she listen to anyone? God Bless Meredith! But again, their love is a thing to behold! Don't miss Lynn and Alex and cheered when they got Philiminated! B*itchy doesn't suit them! Too bad they couldn't enjoy the ride without making/passing/placing judgements they don't want placed upon them! Just my opinion!
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 4:29 pm
OK..they just hung out together. LOL
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 4:49 pm
I personally think that Romber purposefully doesn't get close w/ other teams so that they can keep their focus on the GAME. It's a lot easier to be cut-throat w/ people who aren't your friends.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 5:02 pm
I'm hoping Oprah Winfrey is a fan of Amazing Race and will get J/U on her show and give them a trip. About Rob , he strode along ahead of the elephant while Amber was left to do the pushing. I did not see a smile on his face while he talked about organizing labor and organizing is exactly what he was tryng to do.
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 5:41 pm
The funniest part was when Gretchen said, "Meredith, we got a bad elephant. We got a bad elephant." LOL! No Gretchen, you got an elephant that weighs at least 100 lbs more than everyone else's elephant because your butt is sitting up in it!
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R151996
Member
07-04-2003
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 6:47 pm
Scorpiomoon and Gigglesalot, Rob and Amber were apparently in separate bunks on the right side of the picture when they received the clue on the train, but only Rob was shown. Ron and Kelly were in the top left bunk in the same cabin as the shot was continuous moving from Rob to Ron/Kelly.
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Kizz
Member
07-26-2001
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 6:50 pm
I noticed that in the Early Show interview that L/A made a point - TWICE - of saying something about Amber and weight loss. The first time they referred to her as "Amber-exia" and they made another comment towards the end about how she was so concerned with being able to lose some weight. It really came across as mean spirited and unnecessary. I wasn't sure what they were trying to prove.
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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 7:30 pm
Az, that's how I heard it.. BAD elephant!!.. Yeah, that was crazy, the elephant's wheels were dragging as it was and there she is up there in the elephant!! Teach, that's my theory too, that for the most part, Rob and Amber stayed aloof so as not to get so involved, and of course they seem to enjoy each other very much, plus they were being shunned from early in the race, so why not? And this episode, they had to worry about Ron and Kelly a couple places, like would R/K take over the manager who Rob got to go with them.. and sure enough, Rob had to make sure he was with them, and then Kelly pouted that she wished he was in THEIR cab thing.. of course I wondered if that slowed down Rob's vehicle having three of them? But there was one point when normally Rob and Amber would have made a quick decision on transportation and been gone and the four of them were standing in a street while Kelly did her trademark waffling about whether to run, take a cab or what.. that usually only holds her and Ron up.. and usually when he makes a decision she second guesses it.. I think it would be best for Rob to ditch that alliance, pronto! OK, watching the early show bit now. Showing the "race" between M/G and L/A.. Meredith telling Gretchen to stay positive while she scowls and shakes her head negatively, then on the mat with her drawn out ohmygod.. L/A arrving, and bless them they hoped for a non elimination, so you can see Lynn has THREE shirts on!! Alex at least two.. no yhtrr.. Ah.. the cabbies did them in.. three palaces.. realized it after 5 minutes. Never gave up hope, but knew it wasn't looking good.. MG 10-15 minutes ahead of them at pitstop. They spent 10 min at the wrong palace. Signed up for the adventure, see the world, meet people, and for the million, don't get me wrong.. Showing them dancing at the wedding, and shows Meredith rocking out! Julie with her ham handed questions, asks "are you guys still together?" what a question! And yes they are. They say they bonded more. Alex says with anyone else he would have been a mess, had the best time ever. Now Julie tells them to get their claws out, which Lynn is only too happy to do and starts on Amberexia (you know.. I don't thinkl Amber looks the least bit anorexic.. she looks healthy and cute.. ) They say yes R/A make good television.. Lynn says yeah Evil comes across ... Alex says watching at home, R/A were really malicious and it was very entertaining.. but when you are there in person it isn't entertaining at all.. Julie says but was it just because it was a race.. Lynn opines that the race is just a race, not about mind games and tricks and "being decievious" (yes that is what he said.. I guess a cross between deceitful and mischievious?) Alex says we were waiting for them to open up at the pit stops but they never did (gee, I wonder why?) they were shut off and cold and .. Lynn breaks in and said all the teams were very close, spend time with all of them, yeah you're there to race, but you're also there to have a good time and there's no need to pull all that (Lynn has gained weight, his jowls quiver a bit as he shakes with indignation) Alex says they actually liked Rob when they first started, they said "who's that guy?" Lynn says, something about to a gay guy he was cute with that butt (lol.. maybe that's why he was keeping his distance? just kidding, but really...) Alex says "totally cute, but we didn't know who they were until we started the race" Then Julie asks who is more deceitful, Rob or Amber, as racers? Lynn says, "as racers? I think Amber was so concentrated on losing weight at that time I don't think she was really worried about strategy (uh, if they isolated themselves, how do you know what Amber was worried about?) .. it was mostly Rob".. Alex "It was Rob, and Amber just sort of walked, like you know she had no personality..." Julie says you guys did such a great job and it was fun watching you. Lynn says "we had a great time, we loved everyone on the race.. Alex agrees. Julie thanks them for coming on the show.. Aw as they fade to a commercial for Closet World (LOL), the very un-closeted Lynn reaches over and strokes Alex's head.. They still seem solid as a couple to me.. NO idea why Julie asked if they were still together.. would she ask a committed straight couple this?
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 7:31 pm
I don't think there are many brides approaching their wedding who aren't at least thinking about their weight, especially if they've already done dress fittings!
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 7:33 pm
Making a bad joke by combining someone’s name with a serious potentially life-threatening condition isn't funny - it's sick. And, in this case, unlike Kelly who many people have derided for her comments, it wasn't done in a moment of anger - they did it repeatedly and deliberately. It pains me to think that I was a fan and a "defender" of Lynn and Alex prior to this. Ugh.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 7:37 pm
Thanks for the recap Sea!!!!!!!
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Li_lynne
Member
11-19-2003
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 8:02 pm
You beat me to it seamonkey! They JUST got engaged.. fitting into the dress is almost standardly a cumplusion of a bride to be!
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 8:23 pm
well, ron and kelly may think they are 'friends' of rob's and amber's, but rob has made it very clear to everyone who helps the four of them that if it comes down to anything the person is there to help rob and amber and forget the others. rob also said if he and amber had been in front of ron and kelly at the yield last week, they might well have used it on them. if rob and amber win i don't feel they earned it because they have used local people for full days to help them out. JMO, but i do hope they don't win this.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 8:38 pm
Yes and Ron and Kelly also made it very clear that they understand that they are in a race with Rob and Amber and will also do what it takes to win. That was one of the things that impressed me about the friendship between these couples. Serious competitors while playing, they say they will help each other out as an alliance where possible but they know that they are ultimately competing to win but they are friendly outside of the race. We'll see how this holds up though.
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 9:01 pm
Rob will say anything to gain an alliance that will help him out. Much like printed material, you can't believe everything you hear. Rob has always said he cares about his family--said it for both Survivors in his bios. He has never mentioned much about friends in the shows he's done. I think he might use them up. Only a guess. I could be wrong.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 10:22 pm
So far they have shown Rob getting the woman at the airport to make better reservations for the four of them, and he thought about and asked the hotel manager what it would cost to have him help them out, to which the guy said nothing. I haven't seen Ron help out the alliance yet, other than being friendly, so one could say, "oh that Ron, he'll say anything to gain an alliance that will help him out. I tend to believe what I observe (and I can only observe what they show us). I guess we'll see at the wedding.. maybe he'll have a hired best man and proove that he has used up all his friends. I can't say I've heard much talk this season about friends from any of them. So, anyone who uses outside help is undeserving? That would eliminate Gretchen and Meredith, too. Probably others. There have been people on every season who got help from locals. And since Sanjay helped Ron and Kelly too, hmm..
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 10:59 pm
I'll offer up why the hotel manager did the help for free. I bet Rob told him he'd be on TV--and get some free advertising to millions of Americans. That is something I don't think they would show. I like the idea of being able to ask for help--although within reason. I don't think the game serves a decent purpose of every team could just get a guide for each leg--the whole leg. I' d like ot see a limit of some kind--a person can help only for a certain portion of a leg, or for one task. A gardening show where people were supposed ot show off their abilities would suck if they could all bring in gardeners to do the work for them.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 1:09 am
I don't think it would take much explaining to Sanjay that they he would be on TV since the cameras were there rolling as they spoke. It was a no brainer for him! And yes, Gretchen said they had a BAD elephant. I think I kept saying "broken" since someone said that about their donkey or some other animal in one of the previous races?
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Mak1
Member
08-12-2002
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 3:36 am
Colin said it about his ox in a deliciously hilarious scene in a muddy field. (hilarious to me, NOT to Colin)
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 4:16 am
Didn't Rob once say to Sanjay that he was to help him and Amber, but not Ron and Kelly? I didn't really hear it all, and because it seemed standard protocol for Rob anyway, I didn't give it much thought at the time. Did anyone else know what context he was referring to?
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 4:28 am
Kep,I thought he asked Sanjay to help the four of them but when it came to a point where he could only help two it was to be him and Amber.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 5:21 am
Yep, Rob just pretended to offer to pay Sanjay for the camera while he really was encouraging him to do it for free but CBS edited out cause it's all a giant conspiracy to make them look good!
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Gigglesalot
Member
08-14-2003
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 7:09 am
Just because a racer/team asks for help or enlists help from the locals it's wrong? After previous episodes I read that others were upset that Rob and Amber were recognized by the locals who in turn helped them. In this past episode it didn't seem (and I know that editing could have eliminated it) that Rob and Amber were recognized but yet they still had help from the locals. I don't think it's a big deal. It helps the teams, yes, but all the teams have that ability to ask for help. I think Rob is playing the game - the way he knows how to. If I were the other teams, I would be asking locals for help as Rob had done - by charming them into it or by simply asking. The hotel manager volunteered immediately when Rob asked for a tour of the city. He is trained to do that - and most likely his personality is one to help others anyway, that's why he's in the hotel business. Not until Rob outlined his plan for the day as "I'll need you to be us all day" did the manager know what he had gotten himself into - but we didn't see him say, "No".
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