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Rosie
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11-12-2003

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 12:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't see any need for Rob and Amber to stop at the accident. Help was already on the way and we all know that Lynn and Alex were there to take charge and assist with medical and equipment advice right?





Watching2
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 12:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
First off, I'm glad Ray & Deana lost. He was more than annoying and plain rude. I also noticed something was up with her eye that I hadn't noticed before. I say she should dump him!

Lynn is annoying me to no end! He has an obnoxious comment about everything/everyone it seems. I wouldn't mind seeing them go next.

I give Gretchen a lot of credit this time for keeping on after she was hurt. That being said, she annoys me a lot of the time as does Meredith since they seem to be whiney and often clueless... like when he couldn't find the men for the competition. They just seem spacey at times to me.

I like Ron and Kelley more now than I did at the beginning. I wanted to root for Ron right off since I have a soft spot for service people and have seen him comment on many news shows and he seemed like a nice guy, but they didn't seem to be doing so well and I wasn't impressed. They've really picked up their game now. It will be interesting to see what happens with them the next time!

Rob and Amber.... hmmmmmmmm....... well, I have to say I was turned off by Rob's comments and actions and it didn't sit well with me when they didn't even call out to see if they were OK. After reading what you've all written, I've reconsidered some since I too, don't stop at an accident, etc., if there are already a lot of people there helping. Often it can just lead to more accidents because of more congestion and people "rubber necking" to see what's going on. I still think they could have ASKED. That there was another film crew there who filmed the accident and then Lynn & Alex's crew was there as well, I think they had it covered. Like I said, they could have asked. That would have been the nice thing to do.

I'm so glad the brothers were able to catch up and stay in the race. They're really starting to become one of my favorite teams. I also like Joyce and Uchenna. They're growing on me as well.

All in all, it was a great episode! I'm wondering why they did the 2 ep. bit and then are having 2 shows next week, although one is a "catch up" and other unseen footage. I'm looking forward to the next episode! This has been a really good season to date. What a breath of fresh air from the last!

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 12:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL Rosie! Yep, Lynn and Alex to the rescue! Saving lives... jumping tall buildings... complaining about... fill in space.......

Katbry
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10-27-2004

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 12:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes, what is more worrisome to me is that Rob's very first instinct is not to stop or help anyone...makes me wondor if he is like that in real life. Before this I thought he was so nice at least to the locals, which he still seems to be; however, he certainly is cut throat in the game...which I guess is why he continues to do so well.

I am so happy for G/M and the brothers and I really hope Deanna doesn't stay w/Ray, especially after she sees the show and realizes how badly he treats her (although she was a bit whiney), not to mention how rude he is to others, especially G/M (he constantly made comments @ they were too old to be there and giving them money tonight would just prolong the inevitable). Yeah for them tonight beating them, especially on a more physical challenge!!!

Starshine40
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07-30-2002

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 12:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm just glad Ray was eliminated.

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 12:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
You know, all is right in Reality World these days. My least favorite got booted from Survivor last week (at first I typed the name, but changed it in case some haven't seen it yet). And now my least favorite is gone from TAR. Things really don't usually work out like that! Bravo!

I thought the racers weren't allowed to go first class? Why didn't Ray/Deana get penalized? Or maybe they did, and they were so far ahead from the FF, that it was moot?

Was it just me, or did Amber seem a little down/tired/sullen (take your pick of description) during much of the first leg of tonight's eps? Maybe she's just like me, and doesn't wake up well. It takes me a LONG TIME to get moving and awake.



Rosie
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11-12-2003

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 1:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I did notice that Amber seemed tired or something like that.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 2:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They aren't allowed to book first class but if they can get an airline to upgrade them, or allow them to sit in a first class seat, that's ok. So there was no penalty involved.

They were ahead from the FF, but then there was immediate bunching at the beginning of the next leg so that was out the window.

I think the race takes its toll on all of them.. I didn't really notice Amber looking bad but she wasn't as perky as usual and Deana and Gretchen aren't looking so well.. Meredith seems to be in pain.

Again, how do we know what Rob said? We only see what is edited in or left in and clearly this episode they were showing more little cracks in the team than in past episodes.

I see the brothers (despite the accident) and Uchenna and Joyce on the upswing.. well I guess I should include Ron and Kelly but I seem to mostly just ignore them.

Hmm they didn't show it but I wonder how Gretchen managed to buy all that stuff they needed for the children? They seemed to have no money difficulties at all.. only four teams seemed to give them money and Uchenna mentioned giving them $5. I cannot imagine that the other three teams made up the difference between $5 and $118..

And yes, I gathered that Ray doesn't drive stick shift.. and once again, as I ask every season.. why on earth wouldn't anyone who applies go out and take a lesson and learn/practice with a manual transmission.. get your feet used to clutching! Also I'd go and get a lesson in rappeling and be working out like a madwoman..

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 5:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, it seems I'm in the minority on the Rob and Amber situation. I don't think they should be on the show. Their notoriety from Survivor gives them an unfair advantage over others, as we saw tonight with random locals helping them because they saw them on TV. Even Amber said their "guardian angels" who have been helping them along the way did so because they recognized them from Survivor. It isn't a level playing field with the others.

As for the accident, no, I don't stop for random accidents where people are already there helping. But I would stop if it was someone I knew! I would at least ask if there was anything I could do to help?

Rob's "so that's how you want to play the game" reaction to Lynn and Alex refusing to share the cab was just a tad bit hypocritical in my book. That's how he's been playing the game all along. How is refusing to share a cab any different from stealing one another team had paid to hold?

I only saw Rob and Amber on Survivor All-Stars, and even then, not much, so I didn't have any preconcieved notions about them. I just don't think they should be there, because it isn't fair to the other teams who worked hard to get on the show. Maybe that's what's coloring my perceptions of them now.

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 5:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What is up with Deena's eye!!!!!!!????????????

Gina, I agree 100% with all your comments.

I am getting to where I REALLY dislike the boyfriends!

Neetka
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02-09-2005

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 6:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My thoughts exactly Prisonerno6!

How can you see someone that you know at the side of the road next to an overturned car, with someone lying on the ground being tended to, and not take 2 min to slow down, roll down your window, and say something? Those 2 min are not going to lose you the race when one team is obviously hours behind you due to said accident.

As for the cab, everyone called it clever racing when rob bribed a *bus* driver not to pick up any other passengers, yet ragging on Lynn & Alex for not sharing their *cab*? If it was romber who refused to share with anyone else it would have been called cute and clever.

It's definately not a level playing field. Every race people have had the help of locals - but they had to earn that help with their charm and persuasiveness, which are racing skills. Romber has people coming to *them* offering to help simply because of their 'fame', and that gives them an unfair advantage over the other teams who must rely soley on their own skills.


Csnog
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07-18-2002

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If you had to learn to drive a stick in the USA the stick is on the right side while in other country's it's on the left side. I noticed that more players now know how to drive a stick.

Gretchen had enough money to buy the train tickets and shop.

I watch this show to see the race and understand why some make mistakes while others think problems through. Is it knowledge, tenacity, luck, stupidity? Which team handles stress and which one doesn't? Every week they drill into the viewers that this is a race for 1 mil.

Gretchens accident in the tunnel showed that emergency help is on site.

Why the careless driving? Next year they may put in a penalty for speeding.

Past racers said that they packed way too much stuff and they would have just packed 1 change of clothes. Ian/Teri from season 3 told a story about being on the plane from Hawaii and smelling so bad that the people around were staring at them.

I look for Gretchen to buy a small backpack once they get a little more money.

If I started a race with 10 teams hating me right off the bat I don't know how I would react.

R/D were on the early show at 8:33. They have a nice surprising interview.





Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 6:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was wondering about Deana's eye too. Right at the end of the Phil interview it popped back open and looked fine. I think there is a good chance she's just one of those people who keeps a single eye shut when it is bright out. It looks funny on camera.

I'm very glad that Ray is gone too. Didn't really get to know Deana, but I'd recommend to her to stay away from controlling men like Ray. Constantly putting down her skills, efforts and attitudes was really disgusting for lack of a better way to put it.

All this talk about Rob - what about the brothers? Through their poor decisions someone got hurt. No one is saying didly about that. I'm not really saying we should, but it just shows that everyone is looking for an excuse to jump on Rob and Amber. I actually think it has a lot to do with the editing. Each show has a "Rob's choice" moment which all the viewers can review ad nauseum to themselves (or online) the next day. No mention on the TV screen that through the radios Rob knew they didn't need to stop.


Wilsonatmd
Member

01-23-2001

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 6:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
you know....after thinking about it, the new rule could have made a difference in previous seasons. Remember in Race 5, when two of the last three teams (Brandon/Nicole and Colin/Christie), couldn't switch planes to get to the final city because of Federal rules that say you have to travel with your checked baggage, and the time difference in the flights was just enough for Chip/Kim to win? If the new rule had been in place, I believe that at least one of those two teams wouldn't have had to do that, made the other flight, and it could have affected the outcome....

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't even realize Survivor was shown all over the world.

Ddr
Member

08-19-2001

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 6:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Gina. It bothers me more that the brother driving was reckless and caused injury to his cameraman.

I also don't blame Rob/Amber for not stopping. They have repeatedly said they are not feeling the love from the group, so maybe that played into their decision to keep on going.

And I have the feeling that if it had been Romber in the accident, the boyfriends would have been wooping and clapping as they speeded up to pass them. They are much too dramatic when it comes to Rob/Amber. Their comment that they would have come in 2nd was total bs.

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pamy, I didn't either!!

I don't think the boyfriends would have stopped for them either. Their hatred of them is just getting nauseating. It's almost like jealousy.

I agree, the brothers' actions caused that jeep to turnover. I think one reason why they were so emotional is that they knew they were responsible!

Cousin_jake
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07-04-2002

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 7:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
By the way - does anyone know why Uchenna/Joyce and Ron/Kelly had to check their backpacks at the airport and none of the other teams had to? Just wondering if I missed something - they were all on the same flight after all.

Schoolmarm
Member

02-18-2001

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 7:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm guessing size for the backpacks.

Marysafan
Member

08-07-2000

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 7:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think they had to check their backpacks when the others didn't because they had the misfortune to get a "schtickler" when they checked in. The others didn't check in with that same woman or I am sure she would have made them check their backpacks as well.

Good thing that woman doesn't post in our Facts About You thread...or there would be heck to pay!

Shawndra
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03-29-2005

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i think they had to check their bags while the others didn't is just bad luck. they had someone checking them in that felt the bags should be checked while the others had someone who let the bags go as carry on.

something to be said about the team that didn't let rob and amber on their bus/taxi.....not sure what it was. that's all part of the game. rob may of been ticked but he knows the deal.

as for the brothers. their reckless driving that caused the accident should of been brought up on the show. they got a free ride on that one. and i thought it was just women who got away with stuff by using tears.

Cliotheleo
Member

03-13-2002

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 8:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Prisoner, it isn't a level playing field for ANY of the teams and that's what makes things interesting. The brothers were successful last night because they were able to out run Ray and Deana and could likely out run any other team on the show. Most teams have some talent that the others don't posess. Ron was able to drive on sand last night better than the others because of his Army experience. Bianca had the other teams at a disadvantage because she spoke Spanish fluently and that helped her in South America. Rob and Amber's talent (or one of them) is that they have fans, all the teams have things the others don't. But just like with the others, their talent will only help them in certain countries. South Africa is much more westernized than many other places they'll visit (as was the first country they went to.) Do you think they show Survivor in Botswana?

Was it the same person who made some teams check their bags and others not? I thought it was two different people and one was more strict with the rules than the other. I'll have to re-watch.

Sassynegal
Member

01-21-2005

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Do we know for sure it was 'careless or reckless driving' having drove on similiar roads all it takes is to get into the edges of the road for that lose stuff to throw you off the road, whether you are going 60 or 40. I felt bad for the brothers and you could see they were tore up by the whole accident - why should they be punished more???????? I don't think we should assume anything else.

Glad to see Ray and Deena gone and glad to see the brothers still in it. Now if only Lynn & Alex could find thier way to the end next I'd be happy!

Did anyone else have a hard time fighting tears with Joyce and Uchenna after the orphanage???? I am starting to be a big fan of thier team!

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 8:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh, the power of editing!

How do we know that Rob and Amber did not ask about the folks at the wreck? If they had been the first on the scene, that would be different, but there were already people there. And if the situation had been reversed, how do we know that Lynn and Alex would have stopped. Lynn and Alex knew they were pretty far ahead in the pack. Would they have stopped and, especially, would they have hung around so long if they had been further back?

I think Alex is the bad guy in this relationship and Lynn goes along to get along. Alex is one of those people who tries to look superior to others to make himself feel better. He even does it to Lynn.

I had always thought that Amber was a pretty smart cookie. But several times during this season it has appeared that she can't make decisions on her own. Last night it seemed Rob was trying to force her to make a decision and she just couldn't. Again, it could have been the editing (which wasn't kind to Rob or Amber last night), but this wasn't the first time I noticed this.


Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 8:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Everyone is assuming everything. They are assuming A/L wouldn't have helped R/A. They are assuming the accident was a result of bad driving. They are assuming this and so much more.

R/D were on TES and they are getting married. They were in denial (mainly D) about R's comments. Of course D blamed the stress of the race on his actions/comments. Renee was awesome with them. Really put some tough questions/clips to them.