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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 5:06 am
The remark was offensive whether it was meant with humor or not. Had Rob made the comment in Africa refering to black labor, I doubt very much any one would even be debating his "sense of humor". Don't get me wrong, I don't think Rob is a racist. Rob doesn't just see people of color beneath him, he considers ALL people beneath him. This is evident in his "sense of humor" through several previous remarks made thoughout this race in reference to other people not being as good as himself. When I first found out Rob/Amber were running this AR7, a friend of mine said that the producers would not make the same mistake they made with Alison by letting them lose too early in the game. I laughed it off and said he was nuts, that the producers of TAR would not jeapordize the show by favoring one team over the others. But I'm not so sure now. It seems that Rob/Amber to have incredible luck, more luck than would appear normal. I think if Rob/Amber had this kind of luck in vegas, they would be under investigation by now. Then there is the fact that Rob/Amber are pretty much the only ones to have won prizes for coming in first. Again, just luck??? I agree that it is a possiblity, but somewhere in the back of my mind is a nagging doubt. Last night was what really started my doubts. Rob/Amber had help through every step of this game, but Meredith and Gretchen were not allowed any help with the boat task...I am starting to wonder...Could AR be helping to steer this game so Rob/Amber stay in longer, fueling the controversy and raising the ratings?
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 5:15 am
oh, lord...another week of this!
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Sherbear
Member
07-19-2001
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 5:45 am
I couldn't believe it when M/G took the brawn task. It was poor play on there part. It is my belief and no proof is offered there must have been something saying they couldn't be helped by another team in the rules. R/K didn't have help in the Sherlock Holmes caper and made it through with no problem. I will agree R/A may have yielded the wrong team when they didn't yield U/J. Ron and Kelly are now labeling R/A as evil. When the reality is they were being shunned by the other teams and R/A helped them. Keep in mind the airport arrangements and I didn't R/K balk about help from the Indian hotel manager, whom Rob politely asked. Kelly or Ron later said Rob coerced the hotel manager. However, like him or not I would rather have Boston Rob and Amber win any day over Kendra and Freddie with her breeding remarks and it's pretty poverty. For the record I do like Rob and Amber. I do think there fame has helped them some in the Amazing Race. I am enjoying this season and have been a die hard TAR fan since the beginning. I know I might be shot but I would enjoy a season with Rob/Amber, Richard/Rudy, Jenna/Ethan, Trista/Ryan, Colby/Tina, Drew/ and what was her name...LOL Another words reality tv star seasons as long as there was no Omarosa.
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 5:47 am
Kep, good points but...... If the producers are helping R/A to win they're certainly not doing a very good job of covering it up. and....... R/A have won the most prizes simply because they've come in first more than anyone else. The notion that the producers only awarded prizes when R/A came in first just goes to support what I said above. Rob is simply using his brain in a way we have not yet seen. He's showing us the same good head for strategy (save the now infamous lie from Marquesas) that he showed us in Survivor. The reason why it's helping him so much now is that the other teams can't vote him off.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 6:07 am
I am just fascinated to find out that Survivor was shown in India, Peru, Turkey and South Africa. I had no idea!
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Essence
Member
01-12-2002
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 6:23 am
quote:R/K didn't have help in the Sherlock Holmes caper and made it through with no problem.
R/K did have help. At each point in that task, they asked questions of locals to help guide them, they just didn't ask someone to walk with them. So, what's the difference?
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 6:36 am
Essence, now, come on..you know the difference....it's cause Rob and Amber did it! 
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Essence
Member
01-12-2002
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 6:40 am
I know Texannie, I know...
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 6:59 am
*grins*...of course not Clio... if they were successful in covering it up totally where would the controversy be? Controversy = ratings... I've always been the first one to discount claims that reality shows are "scripted" or guided, this is the first time I'm beginning to think that maybe I'm wrong...LOL Then again, I might be feeling this way because I don't like Rob and therefore any issue concerning him is seen in a negative light for me. *shrugs*..but hey...its no worse than his fans that like him so much, anything he does is seen as in a positive light....LOL
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 7:09 am
The funny thing is that I am not really a fan of his or any of the racers. I like them all equally. I am just not against any of them! LOL
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Jasper
Member
09-14-2000
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:12 am
quote:He says nearly everything with a cute grin, looking like a bear cub that will snuggle up against you just to get close enough for a good mauling
I loved that line too Julieboo.
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Jasper
Member
09-14-2000
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:20 am
I do recall, India I beleive, where Kelly was signing some autographs and Ron commented that when you are in international beauty pagents everyone knows you, granted not on the scale of Rob and Amber. With them getting help more so then others, I think all teams have an equal opportunity to nab some locals to help them out. Oddly since most people couldn't stand Rob on Marquesas or All-Star you would think people would laugh at his predicament, but instead he charms them into helping him. I personally don't have an issue with them being in the Race nor if they won. I really can't see how CBS could have orchestrated anything in their favour. As for the trips, I imagine they set what legs would win what along with what legs would be non-elim and yield before the game had begun *but darn I wanted Joyce to get something for shaving her head) didn't Dina and whatshisname win two vehicles on their fast forward leg?
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:24 am
Oddly since most people couldn't stand Rob on Marquesas or All-Star you would think people would laugh at his predicament, but instead he charms them into helping him. Isn't that ironic.......
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 2:11 pm
A few posts up..."Rob is simply using his brain in a way we have not yet seen. He's showing us the same good head for strategy (save the now infamous lie from Marquesas) that he showed us in Survivor. The reason why it's helping him so much now is that the other teams can't vote him off." What was the infamous lie?
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 2:16 pm
Sherbear...Richard and Rudy??!!!! A team on TAR??!!! I am LOL!!!! That is SO funny!
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 2:19 pm
What lie? The only thing that quickly comes to mind is the double-cross he pulled on Lex on ASS to save Amber.
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 2:28 pm
You know what lie........ the INFAMOUS one! I can't remember all of the details, but it was what did him in on the Marquesas season. He lied to Kathy about something or he called someone a liar and was called on it and then claimed he didn't. My mind is fuzzy on all the details but it involved Kathy and it resulted in him being voted out of the game. It was such an infamous lie I can't remember it! (hee hee) ........ lemme go see if I can figure it out.....
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 2:31 pm
Oh.. that lie... I thought you meant like when he bribed someone to not talk to the other AR teams and when he got called on it, he lied about that too... Oh well, easy mistake...there are just so many to choose from!!!
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 2:50 pm
Here it is, (from http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor4/show/episode07/story.shtml ) While eating, Rob and Kathy discussed what had been going on in their respective tribes. Rob revealed that Kathy's former Rotu teammates had all agreed to vote with Sean, Vecepia and Rob in voting out the Maraamu tribe members once the merge occurred. Kathy was shocked by the apparent plans of the tribe members she thought were her friends, specifically Zoe. To protect themselves, Rob and Kathy decided to create a bond with one another, promising never to vote against each other. Wary of Rob's eagerness to ally himself with her, Kathy stated, "Don't stab me in the back." Later, Rob added, "John Carroll thinks I have an alliance with the team, Kathy thinks I have an alliance with her. I have been lying this whole game." On Day 21, Rob Mariano confronted Zoe Zanidakis, the 35-year-old fishing boat captain from Monhegan Island, Maine, as she and Kathy were out gathering food, asking, "Didn't you tell me the other day that you were going to vote out Kathy? The trust in this group is gone." Zoe, denying Rob's allegations, overwhelmed and frustrated Kathy who walked away confused as to who was telling the truth. Rob concluded, " I don't like to be lied to again, and again and again. It irritates me." With the intense pressure of the upcoming Tribal Council, Rob Mariano and Sean Rector approached John Carroll to discuss the vote. As the three disagreed about whom their allegiances were with, tempers flared as Sean began screaming, "Don't tell me it's an individual vote when the four of you all vote the same way." (video: http://video.cgi.cbs.com/video/video.pl/?url=cbs/cbs/g2demand/entertainment/primetime/survivor4/week07/video07_09.rm&proto=rtsp) But the way I remember it, Rob's allegation to Kathy that she was in jeopardy with her alliance was total BS.
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 2:53 pm
No, I'm talking WAY back in Robfather history. You know, the final act of "The Robfather" part 1. TAR is part 3. 
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 2:55 pm
And this was the worst thing ever done or said by anyone on Survivor how?
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 2:58 pm
*searches the posts...doesn't find anything saying it was the worst thing ever done or said by anyone on survivor...
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 3:01 pm
Ya... like okay. I always thought the worst lie ever was Johnny Fairplay's lie about his grandmother dying. Looks to me like Rob was just playing the game...
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 3:06 pm
*sighs*...no one said anything to the contrary...all I said was there were so many lies to choose from... like or hate him, the man is a proficient liar... Sorry it upsets some to hear that... but the facts are what they are...
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 3:16 pm
Yep Kep, and I think Rob would agree with you. (Well, he would lie and say he didn't, but then he'd turn to the camera and wink.) Just like what he said above, "John Carroll thinks I have an alliance with the team, Kathy thinks I have an alliance with her. I have been lying this whole game." and then he turned around and said, "I don't like to be lied to again, and again and again. It irritates me." That is HILLARIOUS and it is what makes him one of the greatest players to ever play the game. He's next to Colby as my all-time favorite. Put him on BB, I'm READY!!!
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