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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 11:07 am
But the purpose of not giving them maps anymore is so they will work with the locals. Rob and Amber just make better use of the locals than other contestants. Last season, Jonathan would use someone to get him from point A to point B and then someone different from point B to point C. I don't ever recall Jonathan using a guide for the entire day. Rob keeps that one person all day assuming they aren't leaving the immediate area or the country. ROMBER ROCKS!!!
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 11:22 am
Well, I think working with the locals is not the same as having the locals do all the work.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 11:38 am
The locals aren't doing the roadblocks or detours for them. They are getting them from one point to the other. Am I missing something?
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Spygirl
Moderator
04-23-2001
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 11:41 am
I can think of the time Amber was in the market and got the local woman to take her from vendor to vendor. The local actually did the purchase negotiation...Amber just told her what was on the list. Would you say that Amber did that task?
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 11:44 am
rob also made a comment to the guide he had with him at the camel race... i only caught a piece of it. it was right after amber's camel started to go in circles. suddenly the camel was straight up and rob thanked the guide for fixing that. i didnt really catch it. if someone has it on tape maybe they could shed some light.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:19 pm
Was anyone else prohibited from doing this? And has this not happened before this year? I've noticed it before, and I don't remember this outcry and gnashing of the teeth.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:35 pm
i saw it with jon and victoria. and i didnt like it then but it was fairly novel to me. i had not seen it that much before. for me it is merely a coincidence that we are seeing so much of it with rob and amber. and i am realizing i dont like the dimension it brings to the game.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:51 pm
Rob and Amber are using the guide technique very effectively and are playing well within the rules. They are simply doing it much better than anyone has previously. It is some help that they are fairly well known, but it may not be the huge advantage that some people make it out to be. For example, what would you think if someone told you in advance that there would be cheering crowds and people asking for autographs and offering to help? Many people would say how unfair that would be – until they realised that it happened to Meredith and Gretchen and not Rob and Amber. So the TAR producers may have to re-think the rules about having a guide travel with a team. But then maybe they should also change the rules about having locals help with a competition – like pushing the elephants? That is something that I have always found much more questionable than having a local person act as a guide.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 1:53 pm
Along with the cheering and autographs for Meredith and Gretchen, the locals obtained the cabs FOR them, and went with them for the rest of that leg. In fact more than one local actually got in a second rickshaw and accompanied them to the next task. And it wasn't unfair then. Or if it was Romber. On the camel task, each person doing the task had a camel driver next to them and it seemed like some (not Amber) got much better help in driving the camel forward. Luck of the draw, I think.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 2:09 pm
Lexie sits next to Jimmer and Seamonkey...
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 2:21 pm
scoot over and make room for me!
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 3:10 pm
Not only did they have someone in the cart with them, they also had a person help LEAD the camels. I rewatched this episode a couple of times and noticed that. 
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 3:15 pm
Racers have had help since AR 1. At least the smart ones do. They ask for directions from people on trains, airplanes, hotels whatever and whoever they can. Millie and Chuck from season 4 had a woman take them to the clue box. Charla and Mirna, Jim and Marsha asked a guy to drive where they had to go several times and they followed him. We don't even have to discuss Jonathon, he used a lot of locals. When Phil did the voiceover for the elephant push he said that the racers could ask for help from the locals. No one recognized R/A in India and in parts of Africa they were on a preserve. Rob did not hire a guide. He asked the hotel employee to go with him.
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Tallen
Member
04-18-2005
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 4:16 pm
Actually, when Romber got to the hotel they asked the manager how much it would cost for him to help them in the morning. The manager said "nothing". He offered to help as much as he could. If a team is smart enough to ask for help and get it, I say more power to them!!
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 10:13 pm
well, knock me OFF the bench with you guys on it! as i mentioned before, those who love rob will never see anything 'wrong' and those who don't care for him will never see anything "right" with him. as far as playing this game, i'll bet some rules will change after this series....
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 10:42 pm
LOL, that's a given considering the next TAR is family teams of four with children as young as 8.
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 11:02 pm
maybe rob and amber can be on it next time, then! lol
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 6:58 am
It borders on child abuse to drag little ones around the world at this pace and under some of these conditions, IMHO!
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 6:58 am
Too funny Tabbyking, Those who love/hate R/A probably base their opinion on what they saw on Survivor. I think some of the racers did the same thing. We saw that in the first show. It's hard to step back and just watch the journey around the world with their decision's, mistakes, luck and judgments within the game. Instead we get into personalities. We have a fascination watching the infighting, malicious and nasty behaviour. Sometimes we even disapprove someone on the tone of their voice. If we base our own judgement of the racers on what they show us, we are the ones being manipulated. Just yesterday my DH said he didn't know what I was talking about when I said "that do hickey thing" We resent actors and models being recruited instead of "normal" people. We resent people who seem to have enough money. Some resented R/A because they were on a show. AR tried Allison and Donny last year as a crossover and this year we were given R/A. Will we be angry if they ask Tom from Survivor to race next season? There are numerous posts about bad behavior and few about good.U/J. We don't like people if their boring so we gravitate towards the bad. I am happy with the final 4 and have to confess that I came to dislike L/A and they confirmed my opinion when their time was over in the race by their nasty post interviews and bashing of R/A. I so wanted to yell at them "it's over guys, your not funny when you verbally abuse a female about whether or not she ate." I wanted to see their nicer side yet they still wanted more than their share of controversy months after the filming. Still, AR is one of my favorite shows and if we didn't have different views this forum wouldn't be needed.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 7:12 am
sheesh..i am repeating my post, cause I can't type and my typo makes my post make no sense! deleted first post for you, Texannie <QT> I like R/A. I like M/G. I like U/J. Lukewarm on R/K. I just don't see a problem with all the teams following the rules to their advantage. Wouldn't it be really lousy game playing to NOT?????? Aren't they in it to win?
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Karuuna
Member
08-31-2000
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 8:49 am
I'm not sure it's fair to generalize that either people hate everything about Rob and Amber, or like everything about them. I like the way they treat each other for the most part. While Rob has gotten a little snarky at times when Amber is doing a task, for the most part they have been really good to each other. But I don't like Rob's attitude toward the other players and what I perceive is unrealistic arrogance. It's true that he is good at many things, but you can be good at many things without treating others like you are better than they are. He's boastful in my opinion, and is often equally unkind when talking about others as were the recently-eliminated Lynn & Alex. It has nothing to do with how he was on other shows, or what money they have already won. Rob is both very smart, and has an ugly ego the size of Texas. (No offense meant for any Texans!) 
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 9:01 am
I second everything Karuuna said.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 9:41 am
I tend to think of Rob's attitude more as "cocky" and playing for the cameras, rather than arrogance. I think he plays it up, cause he knows its good TV. Just watch Amber roll her eyes at him when he gets going! (But then I'm firmly in the LOVE ROMBER camp and you won't convince me he's evil till he starts kicking puppies.) 
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Sasman
Member
07-08-2003
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 9:50 am
I third everything Karuuna said. R/A are great at playing this game but I don't like Rob at all; he's way too full of himself.
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Rvon
Member
12-11-2003
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 10:18 am
Babyjaxmom, I agree with everything you said about Rob and Amber. I think Rob is doing what he is doing because he knows how to play to the television audience. And let's face it, so many of the things that the producers throw out to us are things that will make us gasp -- whether it be Lynn and Alex, Ron and the Beauty Queen, or Rob and Amber. I love Rob and Amber!
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