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Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 4:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I remember that Tess. It was a couple of seasons ago. It was a one-time only dealie.

Tess
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04-13-2001

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 4:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tess a private message Print Post    
Ah good, Lexie. I remember one team vehemently wishing not to see the team that showed up and they had to pair. I cannot remember the teams or which season but for some reason that one incident stuck in my brain. I cannot even remember which country they were in.

Now if only I could narrow down my choices for favorite team this season.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 8:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I read The Cherry Tree in high school and The Three Sisters in college. But I am with the Lit teacher. Remember how long it has been since some of us were in high school and how much more literature there is now than there was then.

Kind of like history. I was talking to a high school History teacher not long ago and he said people did not realize how hard it is to keep up with new events. He said things get watered down trying to cover everything. I imagine literaure is the same way. Actually all subjects are like that. Think of the advances in science in the last 50 years.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 8:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I always find it kind of amusing how contestants on reality shows find moral issues with the way others play the game.

In TAR, the racers talk about how the people who U Turn someone is not trustworthy. Trustworthy? I just don't get what trust has to do with it.

I can see trust coming into Survivor or Big Brother where you have alliances, but in TAR? Alliances in TAR are very tenuous. You never know from week to week who you might barely beat.

But every reality show seems to have certain things that are hot buttons. In Big Brother, it seems to be lying. They make such a big thing about lying and yet everyone of them does
it.

In Survivor it seems to be wanting to be there or being sick. You better not even hint that you are sick or want to go home, because the others are going to jump on it and you will find yourself voted off.

With Top Chef, it is "throwing people under the bus." Even when the judges ask straight out, you are not supposed to say anything negative about the other contestants.

To me in a game like this just about anything goes, short of mental, or physical abuse.

Spoton
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09-16-2005

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 8:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spoton a private message Print Post    
Sugar commented earlier about the Fast Forward being gone. Have they dropped it? I know in the past few seasons they only had one or two of them per season, but I didn't realize they had dropped it this season.

Spoton
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09-16-2005

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 9:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spoton a private message Print Post    
Now for a probably not-so-popular opinion. Luke is getting on my nerves big time. He is totally whiney during the competition. Sure, they all get frustrated, but he has bordered on tantrums. Maybe having mom standing there feeling bad for him just feeds into it - heck, he even asked for her help during the Chechov challenge. Just seems he needs to grow up a bit emotionally.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 9:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Spoton,l I can understand what you are saying. I don't know how old Luke is but he is extremely immature. I was totally over his whining about not knowing the author. His mother was talking about him like he was a kindergartner. Come on, grow up -- the point of the game is to handle difficult tasks and be challenged.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Right. He got it wrong like 3 times and mommy had to repeatedly calm him down.

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
I actually give a pass to anyone who doesn’t know Chechov – or almost any thing else – I learned long ago that people tend to have a network of people similar to themselves (with exceptions of course) and so its common place to think everyone knows the same things you may know, but that just isn’t reality. Let’s not forget that only 1/3 of kids go to college in the first place and not every kid is like I was who took on the challenge of breaking all records in how many books I could read for school prizes etc – so whether its Chechov or Bogart (it was a wake up call when other people in college didn’t even know the name Bogart yet alone the movie Casablanca), I never assume everyone will be aware of those people – or things – and i also know it has nothing to do with how smart they may be but just the environment they grew up in or live in now….

And I actually give a special pass to Luke this week for Chechov – sure I know that name but its because I tend to absorb everything I HEAR in conversation or on TV etc and I never would have been able to spell it since I have never seen it written anywhere (never had him in any of my lit classes) and so with Luke, while we may think how can people not recognize that name, Luke does not have that opportunity to just “hear things in passing” so unless someone was having a direct conversation with him or it was in class or another written medium, I don’t blame him for not knowing Chechov or for that matter, not knowing most Russian names since I doubt that is the kind of conversations that come up between his friends right now. :-)

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Wow, comparing him to a kindergartener or referring to his "mommy" like that is pretty harsh, but whatever.

Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    
I think his Mom is used to being asked to interpret for him, and was explaining his frustration. I don't find his expression of frustration any less mature than other competitors, actually.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
It's interesting because I know from my own experience growing up deaf that people with disabilities are far more likely to be bullied, picked on or ridiculed than their peers. Just a fact of life. Many, many studies back that up, even into adulthood. I think many times people are not even aware how belittling they are being. I can say this from personal experience. It is like an unconscious prejudice. Helen Keller even said she would rather be blind than deaf because of the way deaf people are treated.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
I'm with you BR. I thought the same thing.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Luke seems very emotionally and physically expressive but I think that may be a way of communicating and compensating for his hearing. Because young people are often more expressive it may give people who don't know him the impression that he is acting younger than his age. I don't know if that would be correct or not.

Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 10:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    
It's a shame, but many people are unaccepting of young men who don't fit a "manly" (less outwardly emotive) stereotype.

Spoton
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09-16-2005

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 10:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spoton a private message Print Post    
I really didn't express my opinion as a commentary on his physical ablilties, but rather on his emotional maturity. Heck, this show has had others on with various physical challenges (one leg, little persons, and my own - old and out of shape!) and each one had their own personality, their own people skills, their own likeablity factors. My opinions have nuttin' ta-do with their bodies!!

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Interesting that some people see Luke as a whining little boy while other contestants, equally or more upset (i.e. Tammy), are viewed as adults expressing their frustrations. I can't claim to understand that, but to each his own.

Nerovh
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06-12-2005

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Well, it's not like Luke can spout obscenities or mouth off at his partner to express his frustrations the way other contestants do. He has to vent his frustration in some manner, it's just not the manner a lot of people are used to seeing.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Off topic:

My daughter learned to sign because she had a friend in high school who had a sister who is deaf. When my daughter was single she went to clubs with her friends for the music but had no interest in picking up men. When men approached her, she signed to them and all but one time they said something on the order of "sorry" and backed off. The one time a fellow asked if she reads lips, she invited him to sit down and talk. She told him why she signed and he thought it was funny. They never really dated, but were friends for a while.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 10:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
That's interesting, Mamabatsy. I've had men tell me straight up they would not go out with me because of my deafness. I don't mourn the loss of such jerks, but it does show you how unkind people can be.

Anyway, I'm about tapped out for the day. As you can imagine, this can be a bit draining of a subject for me. :-)

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Very interesting story, Mamabatsy, lol ...

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
All I can say is that as a young man (or now for that matter) I would not be in the least dissuaded from going out with someone I was attracted to simply because she is deaf. Now in fairness if someone had started signing to me at a club and I knew that I couldn't sign in response I might well have been intimidated and backed off, much like I would be intimidated if someone started speaking a foreign language I couldn't understand. No young guy wants to look stupid by not being able to respond. LOL - It's tough enough for them to talk to a woman they meet at a club at the best of times. But it would have nothing to do with my attraction to her.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, you could have picked up a napkin and scrawled her a note. :-)

I think your example illustrates perfectly why Luke may be so attached to the redheads. They try to take that extra step to communicate with him, whereas others are just too intimidated (like you) or too lazy (like many I've met) or what have you to even try.

It goes back to what I shared about Helen Keller. She also said once that blindness separates you from things, while deafness separates you from people.

(BTW, I do admit to being sensitive on this subject and I try to be fair with my own perceptions. And I really am tapped out now. Thanks for listening!)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think that's a great idea (writing a note) and now that I'm older (and hopefully wiser and definitely more experienced) that's what I'd do. However, as teens or young men, my buddies and I weren't exactly vying for the title of Don Juan. We were intimidated enough communicating at the best of times.

LOL – Trust me that our list of priorities for going out with someone went like this:

1. Does she like me?
2. Is she cute?
3. Is she fun to be with?

Can she hear would be something like 2000th on the list. Now if I do say so myself, we were pretty nice guys and I know some other guys who would feel differently but that was just us.

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With respect to Luke appearing immature to some people, the guy is facing an uphill battle to start with. Number one he is young …. Period. Number two he looks young. Number three he is on a reality show traveling with his Mom. Moms just can't help treating their kids as kids at times even when they are adults.

If we add on the fact that expresses himself in physical ways and speaks in a rather unusual way that completes the appearance.

In some respects he has shown considerable maturity and in other respects he has let his frustration get to him. Of course, if getting frustrated is a sign of immaturity there must be a lot of very youthful people running these races!

I'm very impressed with the effort that Cara & Jaime have made to be friendly and communicate with Luke. It is one of the things that I like about them.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
(((Hermione)))