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Pamy
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01-02-2002

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 5:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Oregonguy, ITA. I know I would be way more cranky than her, esp with that guy going slow.
I really like all of them, so it is sad to see anyone go but I am really rooting for Luke and mom, with the girls as my next favs. I also like the sisters but they just havent shown us too much about them, which probably means they are final 3 :-)

Pamy
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01-02-2002

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TNT, I thought the same thing about the city name! LOL

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Well, OF COURSE you did, Pany, luv! Isn't our connection across the miles and years amazing?

Biscottiii
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05-30-2004

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Haven't seen these yet, still waiting to load, but here ya go anyway:

THANK YOU CBS! Keep those Youtubes coming for those of us that can't utilize Adobe.

The Amazing Race 14 - Elimination Station: Episode 7
Mel and Mike Eliminated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bmXNeej6Sk

From RealityTVWorld, where I like their exit interviews:

Exclusive: Mel and Mike White talk about their time on 'The Amazing Race'
http://realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-mel-and-mike-white-talk-about-their-time-on-the-amazing-race-8698.php

RealityTVWorld recap article
(sometimes they have something of interest)
Mel and Mike White the sixth team ousted from 'The Amazing Race'
http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/mel-and-mike-white-sixth-team-ousted-from-the-amazing-race-8692.php

Pamy
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01-02-2002

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TNT, yep!! we are redheaded soul sisters

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Whichever one was yelling of Jaime and Cara, she's not going to get help screaming at people like she did to the shop owner, and taking so long to choose the right box kinda proves that (I thought that she made him nervous). Mike and Mel were behind and didn't treat people that way. I know stress does things to people, but still, it seems odd that you would take your stress out on strangers, who might be able to help.

It seemed inevitable that Mel and Mike would come in last when they went so far out of their way (they did choose to go in another direction, rather than get out and find out what everyone else was being told), but then for a few moments I thought they might have a chance. Mel and Mike sure seemed to catch up to Lakisha and Jennifer fast; I never expected them to get that close to another team. I was sorry to see Mel and Mike go, especially after last week, but I did favor Lakisha and Jennifer, though, so I'm glad they made it.

Victor and Tammy did it again, they are doing so well. I did feel bad for Mark and Michael when they had those penalties, I didn't even notice they did that. I agree with them 'such a drag.' Just for that I hope they come in first next week, just so they can get that accomplishment back. And it's really good Luke and Margie were at a pit stop, I had wondered what he would have done if no one knew sign language, but then I remember they have people following them; hydration Margie.

And I DID NOT like the elephants and the tiger--not only did I think it was cruelty to animals, but I thought they were in danger, just made me nervous.

Can't wait till next week, this game just gets better and better.

And Raen thank you for the play-by-play, and thank you Seam for the stats of this game, I got a to review :-)

Vsmart
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02-10-2003

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Seeing the tiger trainer with one arm was not reassuring.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 6:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I don't think they have ever had to alternate tasks, but each team member is supposed to do the same amount of tasks througnout the race, right?

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Well, Roxi, that is the question we are all pondering and discussing. I think a lot of teams do decide pre-race to alternate tasks, but I am pretty sure that is not a rule. However, if they have to do an equal number of tasks, how do they know how many tasks that will be - i.e,, how long they will be in the race? I can't seem to get my mind around this question!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 5:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I appreciate corrective comments re the chart! That sucker gets complex and at times the data might suffer for the format

I watch my recording and stop often and go back to read the captions so I try to be accurate. Also will sometimes double check at wikipedia, or other sites, but of course they are no more official than any viewer chart.

No they don't have to alternate tasks but it looks like Season 6 ws the beginning of the rule that it should be more equal. Haven't added the next seasons in yet..

Roadblocks by Season:

Season 1RBSeason 2RBSeason 3RB
Rob/BrennanR 5 B 7Chris/AlexC 5 A 6Flo/ZachF 1 Z 9
Frank/MargaritaF 8 M 3Tara/WillT 4 W 7Teri/IanT 2 Ian 8
Joe/BillJ 6 B 4Blake/Paige B 8 P 3Ken/GerardK 5 G 6
Kevin/DrewK 5 D 4Oswald/DannyO 6 D 3Derek/DrewDe 4 Dr $
Nancy/EmilyN 2 E 4Gary/DaveG 2 D 5John Vito/JillJV 4 Ji 3
Lenny/KarynL2 K 4Mary/PeachM 3 P 2Andre/DamonA 2 D 3
Paul/AmieP2 A 1Cyndi/RussellC 1 R 3Aaron/ArianneAs 3 Ar 2
Dave/MarguerettaD 2 M 0Shola/DoyinS 0 D 1Michael/KathyM 3 K 0
Pat/BrendaP 1 B 0Peggy/ClaireP 0 C 1Heather/EveH 3 E 0
Kim/LeslieK 1 L 0Hope/NormH 0 L 1Dennis/AndrewD 0 A 1
Matt/AnaM 0 A 0Deidre/HillaryD 0 H 0Tramel/TaliciaTr 1 Ta 0
    Gina/SylviaG 0 S 0
      
Season 4RBSeason 5RBSeason 6RB
Reichen/ChipR R 4 C 7Chip/KimC 9 K 1Freddy/KendraF 6 K 6
Kelly/JonK 2 J 10Colin/ChristieCo 8 Ch 1Kris/JonK 6 J 6
David/JeffD 5 J 5Brandon/NicoleB 9 N 1Adam/RebeccaA 6 R 5
Jon/AlJ 5 A 5Linda/KarenL 4 K 6Hayden/AaronH 5 A 6
Millie/ChuckM 2 C 5Kami/KarliKm 5 Kr 3Lori/BoloL 5 B 3
Tian/JareeT 6 J 0Charla/MirnaC 4 M 2Jonathan/VictoriaJ 4 V 4
Monica/ShereeM 3 S 2Marshall/LanceM 1 L 4Gus/HeraG 3 H 3
Steve/DaveS 2 D 1Bob/JoyceB 1 J 2Don/Mary JeanD 2 M 2
Steve/JoshS 0 J 2Jim/MarshaJ 1 M 1Lena/KristyL 1 K 1
Russell/CindyR 2 C 0Alison/DonnyA 0 D 1Meredith/MariaMe 0 Ma 1
Amanda/ChrisA 0 C 1Dennis/ErikaD 0 E 0Ari/JoeA 0 J 0
Devra/SteveD 0 S 0    


Note the disparities:

Season 1 Frank/Margarita 8/3 RB

Season 2 Tara/Will, Blake/Paige, Oswald/Danny

Season 3 Flo/Zach,Teri/Ian

Season 4 Reichen/Chip, Kelly/Jon, Tian/Jaree

Season 5 Chip/Kim, Colin/Christie, Brandon/Nicole

I hadn't remembered that many large discrepancies in RB participation..

Season 6 and we find things evened out.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

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Ah, weill if Mike/Mark read that bit about not following.. sounds like they didn't take it in themselves.

And we knw from all seasons that not reading a clue thoroughly can be the downfall of many a TAR Team.

Chitchat58
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07-25-2008

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I would say not listening was there down fall Seamonkey. They were told that the zoo was the clue and they chose not to listen.

Oregonguy
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02-12-2006

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in mike and mel's interview at tvguide.com they didnt like how luke was so competitive and how he treated his mom.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

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Thank you for the chart, they must have changed the rules, or would they have been given penalties back then?

That's why Mike and Mel lost, they were paying too much attention to Luke :-) I think they are on Bonnie's show this week, maybe today, gotta check.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 5:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I thought I read both interviews linked here, and I don't remember any comments about Luke treating his mom badly. What did I miss?

Freetimefinally
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01-26-2006

Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 6:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Freetimefinally a private message Print Post    
"I don't remember any comments about Luke treating his mom badly. What did I miss?"

Here is the link to the TV guide article http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mel-Mike-Amazing-1004533.aspx?imw=Y

This is what was said there "Yeah, Luke was exasperating. He was unhappy most of the time. He was constantly yelling at his mother — yelling in his deaf way. It was amazing how he picked on her."

I don't think he was any different than on the show. When I roomed with a deaf friend sometimes people thought she was rude/harsh because her facial features are exagerated when she signed and they always thought she was mad. She wasn't. That was just her. Luke definatly has the facial looks at times.

Fan3
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07-07-2005

Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fan3 a private message Print Post    
anyone else notice that they didn't feature Luke & his mom in the next show???? hope she is alright.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

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I think you probably have it right, Free! Deaf people who speak often have LOUD, flat voices. Luke does NOT KNOW how loudly he is yelling! Volume is only judgeable by those of us who hear.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 4:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Thank You Tnt about Luke and his treating his mom - what speaks volumes is how she treats Luke, how he responded to her emergency - Luke is still very young (of course imho!!) and so he will get exasperated with his mom - IF Mel and Mike are comparing their relationship to Luke and Margie - they just dont have the same life experiences - you cant compare!

Deaf people are so often criticized that they dont speak on their behalf -

right Hermione?

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Hermie - feel free to email me if you want to add to the discussion, but dont want to be criticized -

I can only speak from my experiences, and my son has been taken to task too many times for being too sensitive!

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 5:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I'm pretty sure I am banned.

Seriously, I don't want people to feel like they can't voice their own negative opinions without me pouncing. But since I was asked ....

I just wanted those who look at him as a whiner or overly emotional to understand it from the deaf perspective because over 99% of you are looking at him from the hearing perspective.

If you ever go to a "silent dinner" in the deaf community, prepare for a culture shock. Deaf people continually "talk over" each other, interject into other's conversations and can be brutally honest. They'll wave their hands in someone face and get really overly expressive. It's rude to most of us, but you have to understand, to them it's not. That's normal. It's acceptable.

My first ASL teacher, who is completely deaf and fully immersed in the deaf community and culture, flat out told our class one night, "Many of you are going to think deaf people are rude." She said that in the deaf community, for example, it is normal to make comments about appearance that many hearing people would find tacky. She gave us this scenario -

Deaf Person A runs into Deaf Person B for the first time in months. DPB has put on a lot of weight. DPA is likely to sign something that hearing people would translate as "Wow, you've gotten fat!"

And that is completely okay in the deaf culture!

Is Luke whiney? Does he mistreat his mother? He might, certainly. There are whiny deaf people and difficult deaf children just like there are whiny hearing people and difficult hearing children. All I can comment on is what I have seen on the TV show and from what I have seen on the TV show, Luke is a pretty typical deaf person in how he comes across and how he communicates compared to the deaf people I've met who are immersed in the deaf community.

I don't want anyone to feel like they can't come in and say, "Well, I disagree and I think he is a brat." I won't argue with anyone about it again, I promise. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I remember something I said earlier ... we all filter things through the lens of our own experiences. That's not right or wrong, it is just part of being human.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 5:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
And I was sad for Mel and Mike to go, I really liked them. :-)

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 5:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
If you ever go to a "silent dinner" in the deaf community, prepare for a culture shock.

My son works in a pizza parlor, and a group of deaf people often reserve the back room for their meetings. He said that when he has to run pizzas back to them, it is eerie because there's no noise in what is usually a loud atmosphere.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

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Because I was fortunate enough to have a deaf sign language teacher is why I know about the flat/volume issues, Teach. From my other experiences in the deaf community, I have been lucky to have a chance to learn about other issues that face the deaf/hearing impaired.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 6:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
It is great to have your perspective on this, Hermione. You have confirmed my impression that Luke seems more expressive to us because he is trying to get his views known without being to communicate in the way that most hearing people communicate. It's just a different way of communicating. Certainly his Mom adores him and is not offended by it in the least. It's just Luke and his Mom's way of speaking to each other.

Now of course none of that means that Luke won't have his bad moments just like practically every contestant who has ever been on TAR. I'm just surprised that most of them stay as calm as they do.