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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 11:12 am
I think the stunt guys will be fun to watch. They have no fear so face all the challenges way differently than anyone ever has before. They might even challenge others to do things they don't think they can do. I, too, like the Mom and son, as well as the lawyer brother and sister. They all work well together and seem to have good communication skills and respect for each other.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 11:44 am
There is a great documentary called Sound and Fury that can give some insite into the deaf community. PBS will sometimes air a shortened version, or you can find it on DVD rental.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 11:47 am
Thanks for the sign reading info. I didn't realise it was much harder for some than others and some deaf people aren't able to learn. I think that must be the case with Luke, as he seems to lip read his mum a bit, I guess because he's so familiar with her and how she forms words. It's a shame sign language varies by country so they probably can't do a task with it either.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 12:05 pm
Now if Steve and Linda can go next, I can sit back and enjoy the show. I would like to see Steve and Linda eliminated with Steve being the one responsible for them coming in last.
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 1:26 pm
I am so happy TAR is back! I loved last night!! The cheese/hill thing was so funny! And looked so difficult. My only question was why weren't they wearing helmets when they jumped off that bridge??
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 1:55 pm
I agree with everyone! I teared up twice. Second time of course was when Phil signed it to Luke. What a wonderful way to put his message out. Even if he does or doesn't win the whole game(along w/his mom), first leg is a great place to do that! First time is when I laughed my tears out with the cheese run. My question is about the rule regarding that task. I thought they had to carry the cheese wheels with that special rack ... Then I thought once the wheels flew away(left their hands) it shouldn't count .... I know it was most likely physically impossible for these racers(or any of us who doesn't do it as a daily work) to complete that task as the rule meant to be in the first place. But I wonder at what point did they change/relax the rules? Did any front racers get hampered by that situations? I probably will never get any answers, just couldn't help wondering .... Great premiere! Hopefully Phil would win an EMMY for that!
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 2:33 pm
My only thought about the lack of helmet...what good would it do if the rope broke?
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 3:56 pm
I wondered about the cheese rolling down the hill and still counting, but it looked like after all the racks broke to smithereens that it was "anything goes". Everytime a cheese went flying, I couldn't help thinking of that book "The Stinky Cheese Man" lol. Was it my imagination or did I see Victor wipe away a tear when Luke was at the finish line telling why he wanted to do the race? All the first 3 teams seem so genuinely nice that I was just thrilled for them to be first in. And so wonderful to see Phil again!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 4:32 pm
RE lip reading... I think it also depends on when you lose your hearing. Luke was never a hearing person so it may be harder for him to lip read. And I know older people with recent hearing loss find it difficult to learn to lip read AND to sign! Haven't watched the ep yet, just wanted to see who got kicked off... And see how the San Diego team did. (Not that I care since I'm not one for rooting for someone just cuz they are from my hometown or do what I do. )
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 4:51 pm
I'm a pretty good lip reader and lost my hearing at 4 years of age. I wonder if any studies have been done on a correlation between lip reading and age at the loss of hearing. That would be interesting.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 4:51 pm
The ratings were actually kinda so-so....It won the timeslot, but EM:HE was a repeat, and it was down a couple of million viewers from the last ep last season plus lower 18-49's (there are some mitigating factors- it's a three-day weekend, and the golf on CBS was a washout- they reran last year's tournament, which never helps). Next week is the Oscars, so the ratings probably will be down- week 3 will be a big test, since EM:HE is new I believe...
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 5:03 pm
i enjoyed the first episode as well and thought the editing with the music and the natives laughing made the cheese roll priceless.... the only thing i wish is for the day where people dont cry/cheer just because a deaf person finished first - but just be happy that luke and margie, as mother and son, finished first - period. they are one of the nice teams to root for given who they are as people, just like the lawyers/siblings and a few others - and it will be great when the disability is NOT highlighted as part of the celebration - the day when its "yay they finished first" and not "yay they finished first and he is deaf" (although i know its a hook to get the producers to pick therm to be on the race)
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 5:15 pm
I don't understand that attitude, Legalboxer, although I respect that you are entitled to your opinion. For me, it IS a celebration when a deaf person can finish first. As someone who is deaf, I can attest to the enormous challenges people like me face just in making it through life in a predominantly hearing world, much less the challenge of something akin to the rigors of TAR.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 5:15 pm
I first encountered the deaf in teh persons of the grandparents of a Sunday school friend of mine. I was born in 1941, so we are probably talking about people born before 1900. They had very limited sign language skills as that has continued to evolve as time has gone by. Our current American system comes to us from Gaudette which I think is French. The English-Australian system has a two-handed alphabet system whereas ours is one-handed. Interestingly enough our sign for "flag" or "patriotism" is the E- A sign for "dirty" or "pig!" Anyhow Wanda's grandparents relied mostly on fingerspelling. I can remember so many nights gathered around the fireplace popping corn (in a wire basket) and "listening" as they "told" stories. To this day I can read finger spelling as fast as anyone can do it - ghost stories do that to a kid!
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 5:37 pm
In high school my son dated a deaf girl. She went to public school and did not know sign language. She spoke, although it was a flat tone, anyone could understand what she was saying. She rarely had to ask people to repeat what they said, but often had to remind us to look at her as we speak. The difference in her case was that she lost her hearing when she was six and her mother happened to have lost her hearing as a teen. The mother insisted that the daughter get no special treatment. I still wonder what my son thought he was putting over on me when he said that they sat in the car and "talked" for hours. IN THE DARK??? Did he think I was that stupid?
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Trueheart
Member
09-12-2006
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 5:45 pm
Gah!! Dang! I can't believe I haven't commented yet! First of all. Luke and Margie FTW!!! YAY! I'm so pumped that they did awesome! (I actually like a lot of the teams though and I'm not solid on my favorites yet...I'm getting there though!) Ok now I need to go back and read all the comments!
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 5:50 pm
I like the season so far. Actually, the first 5 to get to the end of the 1st leg were my 5 fav's. I'm gonna like it if it keeps up like this!
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 5:59 pm
I think part of the celebration at Luke and his mother coming in first is not just because "a" deaf person came in first, but because it obviously meant so much to "this" deaf person to come in first. I personally just share his joy at accomplishing something he wanted to do so badly.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 6:37 pm
Legal, I think in this case it is warranted to say YAH Luke,who is deaf, got 1st because this race is hard enough to do if you are hearing so to do it with a hearing impairment (or any other impairment) is an even bigger accomplishment, imo. It's not like saying the black sisters got first because them being black has nothing to do with their ability to race. In that case saying 'the black' sisters got first is UNwarranted. I guess some could say being deaf doesnt affect his racing but I disagree, the yodeling task was prime example, they were told to follow the yolders, a deaf person can NOT to that task. If he didnt have his hearing mom with him he would have had to rely on luck to find Phil.
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 8:17 pm
Being able to hear the yodelers sure didn't help Linda and Steve much lolol. Sorry, I couldn't resist that one.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Monday, February 16, 2009 - 8:31 pm
I think Legal and Hermione need to meet in person!! Legal I totally understand what you are saying - both Hermione and Legal have overcome HUGE challenges in this world - and I do admire you both (esp after meeting Legal! with you Hermie, I admire you from your support of btdt for advice for me for my son!!) and I think that TAR and many reality shows highlight something for the TV audience to root for - in this case its Luke, and he is deaf - but some of the other teams too - is it Mike and his son who are gay - the two little people (there was another little person many rooted for, even tho the cousin wasnt really nice - kwim?) all I know is I think of my relationship with my son - and I know my family lol and says "we knew you and Nathan shouldve done the show!"
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Punkinsmom
Member
02-13-2009
| Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 6:09 am
I was laughing so hard at some of the teams when they were scooting down the hill on their back sides. I found it kind of funny that it was Steve who finaly came up with the idea of scooting three things of cheese down the hill on the board. I am a Viginia Gal myself so it it tickled me he was the first one smart enought to come up with the idea. I did not like the way he was talking to Linda however. I was surprised that once many of them decided to sit down and scoot down the hill that they didn't sit on the board and slide down on it. I think it would have been much faster.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 8:02 am
See, that's where the rules are so unclear! If I were the first few teams started, I wouldn't have dared to transfer the wheels any other method but try carry them down from the hill with that traditional gadget. I would have been so worried about being DQed to "think" on any other means to transfer the wheels. When the last clue said to find Phil following the yodelers, it worried me for a few seconds about Luke & Margie. I didn't know at the time I should have to worry for Steve & Linda more!! I'm glad that little set back didn't cause them too big. I won't like to watch Linda cry every episode, but it would have been so sad if they dropped from 6th to last just because they couldn't tell where the yodeling was from! And yes, I was sooo moved by Luke's excitement and Phil's exchange with them, I don't see anything wrong to be happy for that team. I do think Victor was touched at that point as well. It's funny to watch Victor and Tammy trying so hard to be devious. They clearly never had to break so many rules in their own books before in their lives! How about the fight attendants? First I thought they were so cold and out of their elements but worried that they will have unfair advantages at the airport, then I found myself rooting for them once they did the cheese task as earnest as the next team! Glad the other team got cut ...
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 9:17 am
reader - its never too late to apply - doesnt look like the show is going away anytime soon 
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Mybbusername
Member
08-22-2002
| Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 9:59 am
I hope I am not missing this discussed elsewhere, but at the beginning when Phil was talking to all of the teams, he said that the last person to check in WILL be eliminated...usually he says the last team MAY be eliminated. Does this mean there are no non-elimination rounds this season?
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