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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 5:52 pm
Jeeze is Luke (and Margie) over reacting! Give me a break. They were NOT making fun of Luke. (BTW he was going apeshit anyways. HE was the one who did the bumping and elbowing anyways!!!)
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 5:52 pm
spirited comp no its not she shoved luke twie and she cleed luke we were going for the cluebox he put his butt out, and I called him a B because it was a Bmove by putting his butt out and I got infront of him and I ran into the clue box luke walks away its my turn to talk now M says dont laugh at my son that you were not smiling you were laughing at him, I'm not putting up with it that is what they were doing, that is just rude, he has don=e this his whole life... he has lived with prejudice his whole life and you are black and you should understand that I apolgize if you think I was lol at you , this is how he expresses himself, and people laugh at him people give us evil looks and we just smile at them syas Keisha (they go back and forth between a confessional) its a bad day and I want it to be over says Margie Phil tried to let each team tell their side of the story t/v stood in between passive (glad not to know I think!)
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 5:53 pm
Jule I respectfully disagree with your interpretation - again, they are in a race and so they are sleep and food deprived surely
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 5:53 pm
M&M eliminated.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 5:54 pm
Jaime and Cara have to go to calligraphy since they can't get an answer what is wrong w/dance. Three teams at final station with calligrapher. Mike and Mark still need to get to gate. Victor and Tammy finish. Must find way by foot to lake shown in picture. Last team to check in may be eliminated. All 3 teams are racing for the finish line. Kisha Jen team #1. Tammy, Victor 2nd. Margie and Luke 3rd. Kisha Jen win trip to Barbatos. Phil is asking about the competition. Vic says good spirit. Others disagreed. Kisha/Jen tell story. Now they want to hear from Luke. Margie is having a fit that they are laughing at Luke. Yelling at them. Phil thinks they may misunderstand. Luke and Margie go on rant about hearing people put deaf people down and he's had to deal w/it his whole life and they're black and should know better. Say they weren't laughing at the signing and margie insists they were. They say when people yell at them, they smile and meant no insult. Cara/Jaime go back to dance and realize they must finish dancing through all of the music. fourth at pitstop. Mark and Michael dance. They are last and eliminated. They are happy for adventure.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 5:55 pm
I do think Keisha has a good point in not yelling or being angry in confrontational times - as she explained in her confessional - they just smile at them, and she said something to teh effect taht sometimes that gets a bad reaction, but so what (not sure what words she used, but she was talking in a gentle way, and she wasnt making fun of Luke at this time, jsut explaining how/why they chose to smile in those intense situations - and I understand as I find that response to work in a "road rage" type of situation, let it go, and LOL at people getting angry..
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 5:55 pm
They are all in the race. They are all sleep/food deprived. M&L misinterpretted Jen & K. I would be ticked if I got wrongly accused (especially on Natl TV) that i was making fun of anyone with a disability. That is WRONG!
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 5:58 pm
again, I've been in the situation - I've been in a deaf hockey school with deaf kids skate, and parents learn from other parents - and it is remarkable the prejudice these kids deal with in a hearing world... you know a deaf person by the sound of their voice, and people are cruel, thats what you deal with - and Keisha and Jen do not like L/M next time they are getting a horrible foot massage Jen, when she faces her fear of water... she reaches her breaking point (shown in a hallway with Keisha asking Jen what do you want "I want to go home")
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 5:58 pm
Next week get relaxing foot massage. They are all in pain. Jen must face her fear of water. She is crying outside of pool and Kisha asks what she wants to do. She cries she wants to go home.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 6:00 pm
That is my point, they are all in a race and I'm trying to get in that place. Hopefully the race will give them time to work it out - but in the meantime on message boards, we arent going to let it go! M/L did not misinterpret "B*itch" they got it loud and clear - and yes, they were making fun of Luke... nice it up if you want, but they pushed M/L over the edge and they knew it... but again, its a race
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Hooters
Member
08-26-2006
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 6:04 pm
I think Luke stared this by shoving his elbow in her face. I don't think they were making fun of him, M/L WAY over reacted, IMO.
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Padivius
Member
08-21-2003
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 6:04 pm
I think both teams behaved inappropriately and both are too proud to admit it or call a truce. But judging on who I like in the race, it was definitely Jen's fault :P
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 6:13 pm
Tammy and Victor were the best behaved and were just as tired in the race.
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 6:17 pm
I don't think they were making fun of Luke. And I think Margie's telling them that they should understand "because they are black" was just as inappropriate as it would have been for K/J to have made fun of Luke. Phil didn't seem to think they were making fun of Luke, and he was right there. Both teams were at fault for the clue box scuffles, but L/M were definitely over the top at the mat.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 6:17 pm
Totally agree Hooters!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 6:18 pm
Totally agree Nerovh!!
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 6:24 pm
I have the show taped and MIGHT go back and watch it again, but what I saw was a defensive block at the first cluebox. If I recall correctly both of the sisters were collegiate BB players and must have encountered many of these in their sports careers. It is part of the game - move on! However, it did appear TO ME that Luke careened into whichever gal was at the next clue box pretty solidly. Being called "bit@h" on what you know to be national TV might cause that, although not justify it. I heard Margie's "you people" as the hearing community, not black people.
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Chitchat58
Member
07-25-2008
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 6:25 pm
I am so tired of Jamie, she is just plain rude. I hope Karma catches up with her soon.
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Hooters
Member
08-26-2006
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 6:26 pm
Absolutely agree Nerovh, I forgot about the "because your black" comment. The ladies are the bigger people here. I think L/M have chips on their shoulders. I've not seen one team make fun of or have anything other that total respect for these two.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 6:29 pm
I'm thinking that if I were Margie, just so not to get Luke upset and off his game, I might not have told him what Jen said. But that's me. She knows her son and how he gets upset. I suppose in the race things are hard to hold back, but I would have not wanted to get Luke upset or hurt - at least in this instance when getting upset may make you make more mistakes and you could lose.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 7:23 pm
Watching, I haven't seen the show yet, but just from the previews I wondered who told Luke and why would his Mom think that would be in his best interest. It just seemed odd to me.
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Flamingo
Member
08-19-2003
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 7:47 pm
I totally agree Hooters and Nerovh. Luke did start things by elbowing Jen, and I did not see any evidence that they were making fun of him. I would totally be rolling my eyes at him for the simple fact that he was a grown man having a temper tantrum like a 5 year old. But in seeing Margie's over-reaction on top of his it does seem to run in the family.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 8:07 pm
I agree with what Nerovh wrote. Both teams were at fault for the scuffle and I think M got really riled up when the girl team wouldn't take any blame for either scuffle. Then it escalated into a rant about how hearing people are always looking down on L and went way off track inappropriately and made M/L look bad. I think the girls were laughing that incredulous kind of laugh, like "I can't beleive this", not a poking fun kind of laugh. I think I'd like to see Victor and sister win. They have learned to work together and have been having a lot of fun.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 8:19 pm
Well, I just watched the first scuffle, after reading what everyone else said. I think what happened is that Luke was startled...he reacted the way I think someone would who doesn't know that someone is behind them, and all of a sudden is pushed forward.
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 8:19 pm
I agree they are all sleep deprived and tonight we saw that some handle it better then others. My impression at the 1st clue box is the girl was doing a move similar to a "steal" in BB but she wasn't shoving him until he elbowed her and elbowed her hard. At the 2nd clue box, Luke flat out rammed her and it was inexcusable. And yes, Margie - it's all there on tape for everyone to see no matter what you son tells you. The melt down at the end wasn't due to the girls laughing - it was due to their coming in first but L/m couldn't admit to that. I honestly would rather watch the cheerleaders at this point - How bad is that?! And I've got news for you, Margie - kids tease other kids over the littlest of things. It's how you teach your kids to deal with it that is the true lesson in life. Step back and let your son grow up.
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