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Spear
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08-06-2001

Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 11:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
"You need to tell your people that I am not their personal concierge."

That should have been the title of the season finale.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 11:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Actually I do give T/V props for learning the language of their parents and learning it well enough to actually use it well. Even then they had a do-over.

And T/V also had to make up time on two teams to even BE first to the U-Turn. Their time in China hasn't been a breeze with the disastroud swimming event and Victor was I'm sure looking forward to rehydrating and looking for potassium in a banana or something after those horrible leg cramps and instead it was back into a taxi and press on. And the advantage they had in the episode where M/L and J/K had the showdown at the mat was totally negated because other teams were just following them to each station and then Kisha and Jen sprinted ahead and won the leg. Of course that undoubtedly cemented J/K's fate to be U-Turned.

And has been pointed out, many many times teams had various advantages language, wise.

Still shaking my head that stopping to pee made the difference.

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And for kicks, some of the translations on the dishes as spoken by J/K

Fried Chicken becomes Monthly Use Taiwanese Chicken

Vegetarian Noodles = Good Western Heads Lack Fish

New Taste Beef = Oil Comes Again to Please the Mouth

Good Luck Fish = Good Doll Basket Drum

Golden Pork Spare Ribs = Light Competition Red Dishes I've Played Before

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 12:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Seamonkey said: "And the advantage they had in the episode where M/L and J/K had the showdown at the mat was totally negated because other teams were just following them to each station and then Kisha and Jen sprinted ahead and won the leg. Of course that undoubtedly cemented J/K's fate to be U-Turned. "

Good point, thanks! I think THAT was what made the decision, rather than some sort of "alliance" mentality.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 1:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I think there was some of both.. I really saw it when I realized that Tammy had learned some ASL and she was signing with Luke during the foot massage, as well as holding his hand and helping him to stay grounded.

I had also forgotten until Victor mentioned about the bonding on the initial flights at the beginning of the season and how that had held up all season.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 8:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I have to say I was disappointed that Cara & Jaime made it and not Kisha and Jen. If only attitude won the race.

I was personally amazed that K/J were able to do the food waiting task, and stayed patient and just kept at it. While C/J were yelling at each other and everyone for their mistake in not going back to the opera house.

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the reminder Sea... that J/K beat T/V at that one pit stop. Now the pit stop really makes sense. I don't think that had too much of an advantage. Honestly, the opera detour was not too difficult. They just had to copy the make up of two people sitting there, dress in the clothes and that was it. And, yes, T/V, did make a mistake as there are many different versions of the Chinese language. I remember on Season 1, the finish line was in NY and the one of the final two teams (team Guido was a full day behind) was from NY and knew exactly where to go and was so excited and sure they were going to win and gave their taxi driver all these "shorcuts" to take and they were shocked they came in second so even with the advantage of that being their home, they did not come in first. We normally have a situation like this every season.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 8:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
I think it was Tammy who mentioned going to "Chinese school." I have a Chinese friend who grew up in San Francisco, and she had to go to Chinese school for a couple hours every day after regular school, so she knows how to speak and write in Chinese. It's fun to go to Chinatown with her! It sounds as if Tammy and Victor had the same upbringing.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 9:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
I have a little girl in daycare who is half Chinese and her mother had her going to Chinese school on Saturdays but she hated it (she's 8) so her mother said hopefully when she's older she'll want to go. She said that most of her friends send their kids every day.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 9:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
There is a school in my district that has a huge Japanese school every Saturday.

Calamity
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10-18-2001

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calamity a private message Print Post    
What an amazing prize Tammy & Victor won for coming in first - a trip to the Galapagos Islands!!!

While I love TAR for showing us exotic and unfamiliar places, it's also interesting to see other, more famous locations in a different context - like when Tammy & Victor were passing through Tiananmen Square.

Thought T&V had a huge advantage in that one Detour. I keep thinking Jaime will either keel over from a stress-related ulcer (can stress cause ulcers?) or get slapped after snapping at the wrong person. Maybe Tammy could teach her that mediation technique. I don't know if the editing exaggerated how fidgety Margie was but I could understand why Luke was frustrated with her. And poor Jen - what a rough last two legs for her. I really thought she & Kisha were probably going to beat J&C to the mat though.

And yeah, no surprise, I was upset by the preview of the dead pig. Can't help it.

They've all had their share of good & bad moments and, most likely, lucky & unlucky breaks. May the best team win.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 11:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I have never been so disappointed in a final 3...I was so rooting for M/L to be Philiminated. I have lost all respect for Marjie - her vindictiveness toward Keisha and Jen really made me dislike her. Grow up and get over it!

But having said that, I also can't believe that K/J lost because of having to go potty...I think I would have risked peeing on myself as opposed to coming in 4th at that point.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
I am bummed that Jen and Kisha are out! Hope that Tammy and Victor win, with Cara and Jamie last.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
I'd like Cara to win -- without Jaime, if possible.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
From Phil's blog about this leg, "I know that it was really tough on Jen and that she felt truly responsible for their elimination…especially considering they had battled through the U-turn, the eating challenge and even moved ahead of the redheads and still came up several minutes shy of the final three."

So it wasn't really seconds like he implied in the episode.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 12:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I wonder if we'll find out how many minutes. If it was 2 minutes, the potty stop might have cost them. Were they looking for portapotties? Or did they just stumble upon them as they were looking for the mat.

It is so unfortunately they we don't get a TAR reunion show.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
I'd like Cara to win -- without Jaime, if possible.

LMAO!!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
But Raen, when I read Phil's blog, I took it that the pee break cost J/K. As many bottles of water that she drank, she could have been in the bathroom for a couple of minutes.

Sportygirl
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06-14-2005

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportygirl a private message Print Post    
I was surprised at how close the teams were at the beginning of this show. The editing sure made it seem like T/V and K/J were much further behind the other 2 teams at the swimming/diving challenge but they caught up fairly quickly.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Brenda, in the Youtube I posted last night, when J/C were at the mat, Phil said that he thought Jen was still using the bathroom. So, it seems to me, that the edit made it look like both teams were running looking for Phil, but Jen was actually still using the bathroom.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 1:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I saw that you tube, but we really can't tell how far away the portapotties are, or how long they took to look for them. I'd like to know exactly how many minutes they were behind. I'd like to know if their taxi got their first? Maybe their taxi dropped them off clear on the other side or something, so it wouldn't have made a difference. So many factors in there.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 1:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I just finished watching and I'm not sorry to see Kisha and Jen go. For all the talk about how snarky Jaime is, these two were only a tad less snarky.

At the mat, Phil said "seconds" but it didn't seem to be seconds unless the PortaPottie was so close to the mat and had they not stopped, it would've been a foot race. Either way, stopping to go to the bathroom when you don't know exactly how far ahead you are (or not) wasn't that smart. Run to the mat, say I'm here, check me in quick, and then go to the bathroom.



Question: For those of you who were all up in arms over Margie's protectiveness of Luke, how many of you said you understood the "mother lion's" response when it was Joan Rivers and Melissa on Celebrity Apprentice? I'm wondering, because I was hearing people explaining away Joan's actions, yet here Margie seems to vilified for her protectiveness. (BTW, I would've smacked her while putting the makeup on her. She wouldn't stop looking in the mirror and shutting up, and I would've totally smacked her, or turned her chair around completely backwards to the mirror.)

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 2:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I thought both mothers behaved badly.

And I agree that the sisters were kind of awful too, but a tad less awful than the red heads. So, i'm sorry to see them go.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 2:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I didn't like either mother for the reaction, though I can understand the impulse to protect your child, no matter what age they may be.

However I can't really equate the circumstances.. the supposed offenders J/K were not even remotely as offensive (or as continually offensive and bullying) as Annie and Brande were to Melissa.. but I wasn't for either mom. Apprentice is set up to be a highly contentious and nasty situation, unlike TAR (though there have certainly been teams on some seasons who made it that way on TAR). Trump stirs the pot; Phil attempts to calm the waters.

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Kar, I was frustrated that J/C stayed while J/K left for the same reasons.. the difference in attitude.. except for that potty stop! ACK! After overcoming SO much and they KNEW they had left the task ahead of J/C so they couldn't say they were sure they were last, but they also knew that Cara was zooming through that task so they had to move fast.

And I think I would have used the U-Turn at that point and against the same team if I was T/V. T/V had great respect for the capabilities of all three teams but, having just lost a first place and nice prize to a footrace.. it made sense. I don't think they thin this gives them a lock on the win, not by a long shot.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 2:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I thought that was nice of T/V to leave that note on the U-Turn and it appeared that L/J appreciated their reasoning for U-Turning them. Pretty good sportsmanship and not much whining about it and I like that.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 3:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
What Jimmer said!