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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 7:57 am
I agree with Jimmer. I just didn't think it was necessary to use it at this point and the negative aspects of using may come back to haunt them. Plus for some reason it irks me that they didn't use it to help themselves, they used it to help some girls that Luke seems to have a crush on, girls who are very competitive and could easily come back and beat Luke and Margie in the end. I just don't see it as any kind of good strategy at this point.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:08 am
Just curious... how is using the u-turn, which is actually a part of the game, worse than doing something to sabotage another team? Like pretending you are on one flight and telling everyone that's the only flight but it's not. Or doing any of the various things the teams do to get a edge up? I think Margie and Luke did what they thought they needed to do then to help their friends.
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:11 am
Costacat, I don't think it is any different and I am definitely still for Margie and Luke, but, I don't know, I just found myself wishing they hadn't done it because I think the negative consequences could potentially outweigh the positives. Hopefully it will end up being a wonderful strategic move, but I just have a niggling feeling it will cost them.
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:18 am
I was glad the sisters and the blondes come out on top-no one could touch either of them this time!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:24 am
I agree that it isn't a lot different. It's all part of the team's strategy for how they want to try to win the game. There are advantages to using it and not using it. The one main difference is that there is no misinterpretation with respect to a U-turn. No misunderstanding and no smoothing it over. It is in your face – literally in your face with the team's picture stuck up there. Everyone knows that it was done - no question and no interpretation. Now in this situation, Margie & Luke didn't have to post their picture but revealing it to the other teams is essentially the same thing. The biggest problem with Luke & Margie using it is that the other teams clearly realize now that they are a tough team that is prepared to do whatever it takes to win. It makes them more of a target and puts them more on the other teams' radar. ------------------ I was happy to see the other teams do better. This race has had a number of different teams finish first and it makes it fun to watch.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:26 am
Costa, my feeling is that the U turn is like lots of things: just because you CAN do it doesn't mean you SHOULD do it. Also, if it looked like you might be eliminated if you didn't use the U turn, it strikes me as more rasonable than if you do it and use a lame excuse like "they're strong" when they aren't exactly breathing down your neck.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:35 am
Maybe I was too sleepy when I watched, but I just don't understand why M/L shouldn't have used it? It seemed to have taken Luke quite awhile to do the bobsled thing...who's to say that Amanda and Kris would not have caught up?
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:42 am
Of course they didn't know for sure where they would finish but Luke & Margie were a long way ahead of other teams at the time and as it turned out they ultimately ended up finishing fourth out of eight teams so even if Amanda & Kris had passed them they still would have finished a comfortable fifth. The team that truly ended up benefiting from the U-turn was Mark & Michael.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:51 am
Well hindsight is 20/20 isn't it? Luke and Margie knew that they wanted to help Jaime and Cara. They also didn't know what was ahead of them, and to be honest, I probably would've taken the u-turn then myself. L/M had no idea what the shutter task would entail or how quickly it could be completed. They really had no idea how far the teams were behind them. Only that J/C were behind them and they wanted to get the strongest team out of their way.
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 9:21 am
I think, too, part of people's reaction is because Luke and Margie used the U-Turn against a likable team. If they had used it against a team that most disliked, I suspect the reaction would be different.
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Scout
Member
01-20-2005
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 9:35 am
Hermione - I think you're right about the likability factoring in. I thought maybe this year they wouldn't find out who did the U-turning, but looks like they do. I really hate to see Amanda and Kris go, though, because they were in my top three picks in our family pool. But Mark and Michael did get saved, and they were also in my top three. (my teams definitely struggled this week)
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 9:51 am
In Survivor, eliminating the strong and/or looking out for your alliance is usually lauded as good strategy. Not sure it should be any different here. I don't like the U-Turn for the same reasons most don't. It just seems under-handed somehow. Nevertheless, it could end up being a great strategic move, and is it fair to fault them for that? Time really will tell how this plays out. This could change the dynamics of the race. Funnily, in watching the previews for next week, I got the strongest feeling that this is going to bite Margie and Luke in the butt and they will be gone! (Hi Scout!)
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 9:55 am
I hope not it doesn't affect M/L's game! I want them to win!!!
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 10:01 am
Me too, Costacat, but then most people probably know that given my own hearing loss, lol. I'm still totally for them. I can just understand why the U-Turn was an unpopular strategy.
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Scout
Member
01-20-2005
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 10:13 am
I hope it doesn't hurt them too much. I don't doubt the other teams will use it against them. I wonder, from the previews, if they just admitted that they were the ones who used it? They seem like really nice people, who, if asked if they did it, would probably admit it. (Hey Hermione!)
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Kittyab
Member
07-16-2005
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 10:21 am
I wouldnt had admitted to using it.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 10:37 am
To whom did they admit it on the previews? Seems to me it was only to the team they were trying to help by using it?
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 10:40 am
I would have taken it to my grave before I admitted that I used the Blind U-Turn.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 11:02 am
Phil's voiceover in the preview for next week says "Luke gets a reputation for using the U-Turn". It then shows Luke and Margie talking to Mike and Mike laughing and saying, "He's going to create a whole new archetype ... the sinister deaf kid". So he admits it to at least Mike but it is implied that more than Mike and Mel know.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 11:57 am
Of, course there was this Chekhov:

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Sugar
Member
08-15-2000
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 12:12 pm
I say Bravo for using the U-Turn! It is strategy pure and simple and part if the game. I would have done the same thing. Get strong competition out of the way if possible. In a foot race, they could probably outrun Marge. I would have done the exact same thing. I wish they would bring back the Fast Forward.
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Sugar
Member
08-15-2000
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 12:13 pm
I was also surprised that so few of them knew the name Chekhov or had so much trouble figuring it out.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 12:21 pm
Look, Luke is a 22-year-old guy trying to befriend two gorgeous gals. Hormones, people, HORMONES!
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 12:25 pm
In high school I read Uncle Vanya, The Cherry Orchard and three sisters. My son read The Cherry Orchard last year. I wonder what kids are being taught in high school literature classes.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Monday, March 09, 2009 - 12:28 pm
They used the Uturn to take out one of the toughest teams. Bold, daring move that really paid off. Unfortunately for many, it was a likable team, but you can't argue that it was a tough team. Now, whether this will put a target on Luke and mom, that is a risk they are taking.
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