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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Amazing Race ARCHIVES: Amazing Race XIV : 3-29-09 Show Thread: Archive through March 30, 2009 users admin

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Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I was interested in the road block stats! Didn't they used to have to do an equal number? But, when I think about them needing to do an equal number, how could they know how long they would remain in the game hence how many road blocks the team would be doing? Could someone please unsnarl my memory?

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 10:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
On one earlier season it was clearly stated that each team member needed to do an equal number of roadblocks, but it hasn't been mentioned in later seasons. I'm not sure whether it is still implied or with the introduction of "limited" or "special" (for want of a better term - not trying to demean but just wanting to use a term for competitors who may not be as physically competitive) competititors this rule has gone by the wayside. It seems to me that each team has generally split the detour duties along the way so now it may just be that it is the rule and it just not mentioned.

I'm sure this rule was imposed to keep the strong male from doing all the roadblocks like the second season when the sweet guy did all the roadblocks and the girl (was that Fran?) whined alongside.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Actually Roxip, it seems to me the equal number of roadblocks rule was instituted long after season two. I can't remember the name of the couple, but it was an AA couple and the husband was a really big strong guy and he did almost all of them and they won the $1 million. After that is when they instituted the equal number (to the best of my recollection).

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 10:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I didn't remember what season but I remember the earlier seasons (was that Joyce and her husband?) where the stronger half of the couple did almost all of the roadblocks...which was a real detriment to the couples where both of them were not as physically able (for instance some of the elderly couples).

Calamity
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10-18-2001

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calamity a private message Print Post    
I was glad they changed the rule about Roadblocks because it had frustrated me that, for example, Chip had done almost all of them for his team while Kim did only one or something like that. While that was a smart strategy, it's boring for the viewers and besides, what's the point of going on the Race if your plan is to sit on the sidelines as much as possible and let someone else do everything? Just my opinion.

I was disappointed Mel & Mike were eliminated and felt bad for the chained tiger and the elephant. Forcing those animals to perform is wrong. Jaime & Cara's impatience & rudeness were ugly but probably all of us have been less than graceful under pressure from time to time. I bet the shopkeepers were glad when they left though -I would have been. Poor Margie & Luke - hope they're able to recover.

What a beautiful dress worn by the woman who greeted teams at the mat. Thailand was breathtaking.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I"m confused about the roadblocks done chart. Some of them (for those still in the race) total to 5 roadblocks completed, and some total to 6. And this was the 7th leg. What am I missing?

Kittyab
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07-16-2005

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
I can see the cheer leaders, Luke & him mom, and the brother & sister team in the final 3.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I kind of noticed that too. I'm thinking maybe there needs to be an adjustment, but I'm not criticizing...I'm horrible at statistics and can't imagine keeping that chart!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Calamity, that's the team I was trying to think of - Chip and Kim! He did almost all the roadblocks and they pretty much smoked the competition.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Roxip, wasn't Joyce's husband's name "Uchenna" or something like that?

Spear
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08-06-2001

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
I"m confused about the roadblocks done chart. Some of them (for those still in the race) total to 5 roadblocks completed, and some total to 6. And this was the 7th leg. What am I missing?

No Roadblock was shown last night so the total should be 6. Looking at the tables in the Statistics thread, I think the teams listed with 5 Roadblocks are missing the one where they had to run in their underwear.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Yes I noticed that, there was no roadblock last night.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Yes, Joyce and Uchenna. They were also in All Stars.

I didn't notice that they didn't show a roadblock last night. I wonder why not?

Calamity
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10-18-2001

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calamity a private message Print Post    
After the rickshaw when Mark & Michael read the clue about going to the Pit Stop, I looked at the clock and thought, "Already?!", lol. I remember in previous Races there's been legs that didn't have both Detours and Roadblocks, I just wasn't expecting it last night. Made me wonder if if it was going to be a one of those legs where Phil meets teams at the mat and then tells them they have to keep racing.

I wasn't sure about the times - if Mel & Mike's cab driver hadn't taken them to the wrong place, would Mark & Michael's penalties have landed them in last place?

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 1:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Calamity, no. Mark and Michael still came in third with the penalties, so there were teams after them.

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 1:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
I kinda remember reading in previous seasons where a road block was done on a leg, but none of it was shown on TV. I can't remember if it was because the road block footage was boring or just that more time was spent on some other story line for that episode.

Calamity
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10-18-2001

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 1:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calamity a private message Print Post    
Juju2bigdog: Thank you. Duh, I forgot that Kisha & Jen also finished behind Mark & Michael and only wondered if Mel & Mike would have been able to beat the other M&M's.

Bob2112: Yeah, I remember reading that too. I looked it up and during leg 13 of TAR: All Stars, it appears there was an unaired Roadblock (maybe jumping off a cliff into water in Hawaii).

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
To do an equal number of roadblocks during the season.. I think in the past just meant that if one member did a bunch in a row and the team stayed in the race, then the other would have to do all the rest if it took that to even them up.

I don't think they have ever had to literally alternate doing Road Blocks: Brad and Victoria left at the end of three legs, and Brad never did do a roadblock task. I'm sure they were counting on him picking up some tough tasks later in the race. Kris had done 3, Amanda 1, when they were Philiminated.

Tian/Jaree were another pair where one did most all the work, including RB.. Tian was the workhorse.


I did update the stats for those I had not .. (thanks for mentioning it!) I did have Kisha/Jen lopsided and I'm still not convinced it isn't 4/2 at this point but wikipedia says 3/3.. still I've been pretty careful to listen and watch intently and record the correct person when possible.

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I think sabotage like blocking a door or trying to jump a line was "ok" but not when someone actually fiddled with items set up by the race, say if someone removed the route marker or TAR flag (or what if someone just took the clue box with them?).. So what happened with the pumps was not ok and I also especially disliked that they did what they did when it hurt several people in that heat.

I know people have been able to follow cabs when they are also in another cab and they've often been able to get locals to take them places.. but.. hmm have we seen that this season? We've seen people get directions, of course.

But it was made clear what the rule was for last night when Tammy and Victor's cab driver actually suggested that they follow him instead of him following them or meeting them at the next clue box and Victor specificaly said that wasn't allowed. If he knew that then Mark/Mike should have also known. I'm sure it will come up at some point in an interview.

and good point that Mel and Mike really did themselves in.. while they often would work a task in an smart way, last night, they actually should have taken a clue when ALL the other teams went in a different direction AFTER they were seen running around showing the gorilla picture to locals.. Mel and Mike probably should have followed them or even stopped ans asked some of those people on the street. And then they totally ignored, even argued against, being told later that the gorilla was at the zoo. I mean, they were in a place where they had yet to see a gorilla, someone says the zoo.. makes sense.

I know Jaime is the most vocally rude one, but I know there was one week when one of the redheads was shouting and screeching at someone and the one not doing the task said "that's my Cara", so presumably it was Cara being rude THAT time. But Jaime is clearly the most unhinged one when the pressure is on.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 3:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I think that the man in the herb shop deliberately moved more slowly for Cara and Jaime.

Retired
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07-11-2001

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 3:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Retired a private message Print Post    
Look there's a posting.

Oregonguy
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02-12-2006

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 3:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oregonguy a private message Print Post    
opposite sea...it was the hay/water challenge (whch jamie did) and she tried 2 ask the guy what to do and he couldnt respond and she snapped at him and cara said thats my jamie.

having said that, there have many worse people with their attitudes than jamie. at this point fatigue (mental and physical) has set in and lack of sleep, food and water can lead some to not be as patient. Plus at this point i think teams can start seeing themselves winning the race and the money and the pressure gets even more to them (some not all)

JAMIE & CARA 4 THE WIN!!!

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Retiree, I can't read the ghost. I think she is banned from this thread.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 4:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Sea, just a note. I did hear when Mark and Mike read the clue they specifically read a section that they were not permitted to hire a guide for the rickshaw task. So it was just for this task. I remember thinking, oh, that's gonna screw someone up, and then I suspected they would get a penalty for the cab leading them. I did not anticipate the tampering penalty however.

Thanks for fixing the chart. I thought maybe I was just confused about who did what!

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 4:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Yeah, I also heard one of the teams other than Victor and Tammy read out loud that you could not follow anybody on the rickshaw route, but couldn't remember which one read it out loud.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 5:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Although I can totally understand Mike and Mark WANTING to follow someone as I have rarely seen two more directionally clueless guys!