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The TVClubHouse: The Amazing Race ARCHIVES: Amazing Race XII: 11/25 Ep 4 show thread...: Archive through November 26, 2007 users admin

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Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 2:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
Why not feed the kid the goat?

It was a woman who made that "win like men" comment. It was a stupid comment no matter who made it. But then it was the same <77> woman who thought they should get to come in first just because the other team had already had two turns at it. How did she get on this race anyway?

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 2:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
LOL Chiliwilli!

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 3:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
While I agree it was a stupid comment, I got the impression she was trying to use a familiar saying and was at a loss for words....JMO

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 3:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Brenda, that's a very good point - that the fast forward just spurts your own team forward, but the Yield/UTurns send other teams back. That does seem to make a difference in how these things are perceived by the teams.

I think the women used it because they thought they were the second to the last team, rather than third to last. Frankly, if I was in the game, I'd be hard pressed not to use it also, if I thought I was in that position.

On the other hand, I admit I'm grumpy because I'd rather see the blondes eliminated than that couple. They were one of my favorite teams! Now if it had been used to eliminate a team I didn't like, then it would be excellent game play!

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 3:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I don't see the difference in a Fast Forward that puts a team (A) further ahead and a Yield or U-Turn that puts another team (B) further behind. Isn't the essential fact making more space between Team A and Team B?

Sure a FF is "nicer," but it is essentially the same result, isn't it?

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
The only problem that I saw with the U-turn was that they used it on the wrong couple. They said that they used it on Lorena and Jason because they were a strong team. But, they didn't seem that strong to me in the last 2 legs of the race. So, my problem was in who they chose not that they used it.

I have to say that I really liked Jason's attitude when they knew they were the last one to arrive. He seemed very level headed, positive and accepting. After the fiasco last week with the camel, I enjoyed listening to the 2 of them in the cab heading for Phil.

Just a final question, why are there always 'blondes' on these things?

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 4:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Tntitan, it's not quite the same. The Uturn sets *one* team at a disadvantage, and only that team. It's like picking on that team.

The fast forward puts your team ahead of *all* the teams. So it doesn't have quite the same effect.

Kooklie, I didn't believe that "strong team" comment. They made it clear that they thought only one team was behind them, so that was the only team they could use it on, right? They seemed confused that TK and Rachel were behind them also.

I thought Jason was wonderful all through the race. He really won me over in that cab ride also, when his explanation of Lorena's meltdown over the camel showed how much he loved her. it was such a positive, caring explanation of her emotionality.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 4:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I also agree that the decision to use the U-Turn should have been a team decision. This is the first time I can remember where one team member did this without the consent of the other team member, and judging from the previews for next week Jennifer is not happy about Shana using the U-Turn. At the end of the day, Shana made a decision that will affect both of them.


Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 4:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Karuuna, this is where I get confused about last night's episode. When S/J and TK/R were running towards the box, I thought S/J thought TK/R were actually Lorena and Jason and that's why they U-Turned Lorena and Jason. I was under the impression the blondes didn't realize that the couple running towards the box was TK and Rachel and not Lorena and Jason. Does that make sense?



Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 4:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
In this particular case, the U-turn was used much the same as a FF as they thought there was only one other team behind them and their intent was to put themselves ahead of whoever was behind enough to get them in and not be last. It didn't appear to me that they were picking that particular team. They didn't think they had a choice. Who of you would not have done that to keep yourselves in the race? I could definitely use the U-turn, not to pick on a team, but to keep myself from being eliminated. After all, that team is not going to award me a million dollars to not do it.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Lexie, that was my understanding also. They thought Tk and Rachel were in front of them, and the only people behind them were Jason and Lorena. So thinking they were in second to last, they UTurned the only couple behind them (they thought) Lorena and Jason.

That's why I thought the whole "strong team" language was bogus.

But one thing I am confused about.... when they are at the Uturn, do they know what position they are in? Do they know who they can UTurn? What if they had chosen to Uturn someone who was in front of them?

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 5:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Chilli, I agree to an extent, as I said before. If I thought I was in second to last place, I would have used it also.

The problem was that they didn't know that they weren't second to last.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 5:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Yeah Karuuna, that's another thing that's been bothering me. How do they know which teams are behind them so they don't U-Turn (or Yield in previous seasons), a team that is already ahead of them? Is there someone at the U-Turn box (that we don't see) that pulls the pictures of the teams that have already gone through?


Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 6:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Lexie, It seems that the somehow the box must indicate who is left behind them. Maybe Phil is hiding in the shadows and pulling the pictures.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
So then... if the box shows who else is behind them, why didn't the blondes know TK and Rachel were still behind them as well. Color me confused! (nothing unusual there)

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 7:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Lexie, I saw it the same way too. They used the yield on Lorena and Jason because they saw a team rushing toward them and thought that's who it was.

Karuuna, good point. Maybe they were so focussed on grabbing L and J's photo that they didn't see the other photo in the pile.

Karen
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09-07-2004

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 7:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
I think it's up to the racing teams to 'decide' who's behind them. If they mess up and use their Uturn (or yeild) on a team ahead of them, well, that's their loss.

Askme_who_ur
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08-19-2006

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 8:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Askme_who_ur a private message Print Post    
After last weeks breakdown while milking the camel, I was hoping that L and J would be eliminated. I can't handle alot of that type of breakdowns during the season. It was like watching that team from a few years ago where the guy was constantly yelling at his wife and she was constantly crying. THAT grates on my nerves. However, when Jason realized they were last and Lorena started to lose it again , he was at least very consoling. I found myself at that point wishing they could stay.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 9:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I'm confused. I really thought the blondes saw that other team behind them and saw that it wasn't L and J.

I think it works as Karen has suggested. All the pictures are in the box, if you pick a team that has already gone past the UTurn, you've just wasted your U Turn. That how I think it should work anyways.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 9:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Wait, Did We Go Back to Kindergarten?

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 9:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Excellent Lady!!!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 9:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Personally, I can't wait for Shana and Jennifer to get eliminated so I can read the interview about when they saw TK/R did they think they were L/J?


Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 9:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
And no one can use a U-Turn on you if you're first.

Amen to that.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 10:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Karuuna said: So then... if the box shows who else is behind them, why didn't the blondes know TK and Rachel were still behind them as well. Color me confused! (nothing unusual there)"

From Raen's notes: "TK/Rachel learning their dance now... but they decide to do the mining task instead. TK/Rachel not sure where the gold mining station is."

I think that's what added to the blondes' confusion. First TK/Rachel are THERE shaking some bootie and then suddenly they're NOT. When they're running towards the U-Turn Sign, they (S/J & TK/R) are coming from two different directions/TASKS, IIRC. The only team blondes remembered seeing at that moment in time from the bootie contest, coming behind them, are Lorena & Jason.

I do think Lorena & Jason's delayed 2-plus hour start time (due to the camel meltdown last week) didn't help their situation either. I'm not particularly fond of the blondes (even BEFORE the U-Turn) with all their little snide & snarky comments about the people, poor people's clothing/fashions, and landscapes they encounter. Did the blondes actually think AR was going to supply 5-Star Accommodations, with 1st Class train fare, every step around the world?

Several of the other teams are so humbled and appreciative of what they're experiencing!!!

Hoping next week that oncoming bus gives the blondes (at the very least!) a fender bender which slows them down to the VERY BAAAAACCKK of the pack. But that's just me, lol!

Gotta wash these girls right out of my hair!

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, November 26, 2007 - 10:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Personally, I think some of what "We See" and what the "Teams See" may have some differential, due to the editing process. How often do we see people running neck & neck, only to discover later that there were hours in between that point in time or they weren't even close?