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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 9:05 am
Kona, U/J and D/O certainly did do the FF together. D/O skipped other tasks along with U/J and they were tied together by the intersection rules so they did tie. Since they were forced to work as pairs of teams, I thought it was pretty crummy to give one prize that could be used by only one team. Danny and Oswald were so gracious and immediately gave the prize to Joyce and Uchenna.. very nice, considering that J/U had previously won $1,000,000.00 but that's just how Danny and Oswald are. I think the fairest thing, if two teams couldn't decide would be rock paper scissors, maybe. But it is obvious that it wasn't against the rules to take a FF as a single team because the next team just assumed (rightly) that D/o had already started on the FF. And it was definitely Charla who shut the door, but I think it was Mirna who told her to shut the door. I've deleted, so if someone is checking listen for that because I think there was another voice telling Charla to shut the door, but then the airline employee said no and Charla said it was too cold in there. Frankly, shutting the door doesn't seem any different than hogging the only two computers in one place by one team, acting like you already have a clue (this year Rob and Amber, other years other teams.. seems to me that unless you are in an "alliance" and time is of the essence, you ask for time-saving info from another team at your own risk). Texannie, seems to me they are having lots of non-elimination rounds but of course I tend to be grateful for them if they save a team I like. Not so happy when they save a team I really hoped would be out, like Danielle and Eric.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 9:12 am
I think on the intersection FF, the two teams could've split up once they'd completed the FF task. Which meant that they COULD'VE foot raced it to the mat, in which case one team COULD'VE come in first. But the two teams decided to jump on the mat together, so both teams came in in first place. I think if, say, D/K had done the intersection FF with C/M, there probably would've been two separate teams landing on the mat (in first and second place).
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 9:14 am
I see no difference between shutting the door or using the yield. Both are good tactics and it is all part of playing the game. The problem is that Charla & Mirna keep talking about how they are playing a clean game and therefore implying that other teams (the BQs) are playing a dirty game. I don't see anyone playing a dirty game (other than the nasty comments that Eric & Danielle have made about some of the teams). U/J and D/O did not have to jump on the mat simultaneously. They were officially separated after completing the intersection. It was their decision to arrive at the Pit Stop together. They could have raced to the Pit Stop the same way that Eric & Danielle and the Guido's raced to the Pit Stop. Just because two teams decide to arrive at the Pit Stop at the same time, doesn't mean that TAR should automatically award twice the prizes. ETA: I was typing at the same time as Costa and I agree.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 10:42 am
I know we had this discussion last week about whether or not C/M got a 15 minute penalty and it wasn't shown because with U/J still traveling and getting eliminated, it wouldn't have made much difference. I noticed the times last night and there was a big gap in time between 1st and 2nd, 2nd and 3rd, and 3rd and 4th place. So even if they took the penalties (which were never aired), it didn't affect the outcome of when they first arrived on the mat.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 10:44 am
Actually, Lexie... the penalties wouldn't have mattered because the airlines were closed and no one could do much of anything until daylight. So even if they had received penalties, they'd still have all bunched up at the airport trying to get on the same flights (more or less).
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 10:47 am
Exactly, but last week everyone was pondering whether or not C/M took a penalty because they didn't follow the directions correctly. My only point was last week was they probably did, but it wasn't worth airing because it was a non-issue because of J/U. (((Lexie headbutts Costa)))
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 12:11 pm
As much as I don't like C/M they are doing great on this race. The only one I dont want to win is E/D. Would love a Cha win. Chas and BQ make everything look easy and always seem to be having fun and never act too stressed. I dont think ANY of the teams have done anything that I would consider dirty playing. Like Mirna said when they wouldnt't let her line last week 'touche' that is the way I look at all of it I do think the BQ made huge error doing the yield(esp in hindsite knowing they didnt need to do it), I believe that will bite them in the ass.
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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 12:37 pm
If Danny & Oswald don't win then I want Charla to win. If her cousin wins too then so be it but I love Charla. Her grit and determination impresses me. She's a worthy competitor and deserves the win. Oops forgot to add...JMHO!!
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 1:00 pm
From the preview it looked to me like they were implying that Charla and Mirna and Danny and Oswald were conspiring to Yield the BQ.. The website is a little more explicit (mild spoiler):
Spoiler Click below to view spoiler | Next on The Amazing Race: One Team is left in a state of shock when they become victims of a deal between the beauty queens and a certain other Team. Maybe Dustin/Kandice make a deal with Eric/Danielle to yield Charla/Mirna? Mirna's reaction would be as fascinating to watch as a car crash! I suspect Danny/Oswald and E/D (again) would be more likely targets, though. |
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Jasper
Member
09-14-2000
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 1:20 pm
I love TAR but thought last night's tasks seemed (except the detour) very easy. The fast forward was especially lame.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 1:22 pm
That should be amusing. Hopefully it won't involve a certain team though (deliberately being vague so as not to spoil here).
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Karen
Member
09-07-2004
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 2:20 pm
Jimmer:
Spoiler Click below to view spoiler | It's pretty difficult for you to be vague about hoping it's not a "certain team", isn't it??? We all know of your love for the BQs.  |
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 3:05 pm
LOL Karen!! Go Team Cha Cha! 
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 3:11 pm
I don't know .... I am full of surprises. 
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 3:15 pm
<-------------loves surprises 
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 3:31 pm
I see a BIG difference between the way Mirna acts and the way the BQ's act. I believe it is called hypocrisy. And I thought the BQ sandwich comment was funny because at that point I was about ready to pop Mirna myself.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 4:21 pm
I thought the BQ sandwich comment was hysterical. Pamy, you hit the nail on the head. The BQs and Cha Chas make every task look easy. Its amazing how they breeze right through everything without breaking a sweat.
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Madelane
Member
08-20-2001
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 4:39 pm
Is it possible that Phil or his scriptwriter made a mistake last week when they had him saying that the teams should make their way on foot to the cookie task? Perhaps the clue itself didn't say that, which is why we haven't heard anything about a penalty. I agree that the BQ's don't seem fake to me. Or at least, it's nice of them to pretend to be nice or be nice for real to all the people they encounter, especially since they are under stress, and especially compared to Mirna who practically yells at any person who can't or won't immediately stop to help her.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 4:41 pm
MODS....is this correct?...I dont think an official preview is a spoiler so we should be able to talk about it without tags
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 6:05 pm
Pamy, show previews are not spoilers. I think people were just trying to be extra thoughtful.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 6:35 pm
Costa and others, I do believe you are right about the intersection and subsequent arrivals.. I think where I was led astray was that Phil worded things differently than he had in the past. The first time two teams jumped together, theyjust gave them both prizes and clearly TPTB didn't like that solution so after that he'd tell two teams they had to be 1 or 2 but couldn't both be first. But with them I think he did declare them both first (which is where I was led astray, but then made them decide who was the winner. I think probably he should have decided that but don't blame him for hating to take the prize from either team. Anyway it seems it was okay for D/O to go for this FF. I'd be sick if Danny and Oswald were yielded. And since the BQ used the yield, it would make more sense for them to BE yielded but that's up to the teams and of course how they are ordered. I can see BQ conspiring since they cannot yield anyone else.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 6:37 pm
Thx Kar! well I hope the BQ conspire to yield E/D and not the chas!
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Kc103
Member
07-13-2004
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 6:56 pm
Kitt, thanks for your response further up on the thread here. I didn't realize Phil had ever indicated that. I thought they always pointed infractions as a general rule.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 7:00 pm
I don't think that it is smart playing to yield a team just to get back at them for yielding you or for them using the yield on someone else. You should yield the team that you feel is the greatest threat to you winning the game. Of course, that may be the BQs regardless so it may be a moot point.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Monday, April 16, 2007 - 7:43 pm
Spear, you could be right. C/M cut in line in front of Eric & Danielle to get on the airplane last night. They were waving their standby thing around as if it were gold. It was actually 3 or 4, but they got their way and it became 2. They only care about the truth/fairness when it doesn't involve them. I so agree with you Jimmer. They are acting so hypocritical...saying one thing; doing quite another.
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