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Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 9:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
define all-stars in major league sports - its the people that are voted in by the fans in baseball and basketball - with some extras that deserve to be there as backups - its totally popularity and while most are great players (or they wouldnt be so popular) its never the best of the best since many superstar athletes are not always as widely known across the country ... so this is no different --- its a group that has some of the better players but also some who the producers think were fan favorites

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 9:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
Love Rob & Amber. Most love Rob but Amber comes with him. It was great to see them get the taxi driver to take the shortcut and to get way ahead of everyone and easily take the lead. Even with the wrong choice to search for the uniform pieces (don't know how anyone could have found the button), they were still well ahead. Great team! Fun to watch! Nobody else struck me as competition last night.

My best guess is that the BQ's will be their biggest competition, once they get in the flow of things.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 9:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I still find it hard to understand why people get so upset over the contestants lying or misleading the other teams. This is a competition for a lot of money. There are no rules against it and it is a strategy that often works.

Would you hold it against a quarterback for running a misdirection play? Or a point guard for faking out the guy guarding him? Would you hold it against a pitcher for using the hidden ball trick to pick a guy off base? Of course not. It is part of the game. Of course since there is a social aspect to this game, you have to be careful how you use it.

Now I do have a problem with rudeness or being mean to others, just as I have never liked trash talking in sports. And being ugly to your own teammate is counterproductive as it only cause hard feelings. And I have a real problem with hypocricy. We see it so much in these shows. The old "Well, we are better people, we don't do that kind of thing," when they just did it.

But any stategy used in the context of the game, as long as it does not hurt someone, is fine with me. I do not hold with the theory that it reveals a persons true character.

Sometimes people in reality shows get so caught up in the "making friends for life" thing that they forget why they are there.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 9:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
I think Seamonkey has it right. All of the reality television shows are scripted now, and are not the same entertainment they originally set out to be and that we all liked so well.

For the most part, I hate the scripting, with the exception of the current elder male Asian shaman stereotype on Survivor (Caoboi, Yau-man). And I expect we will get tired of that stereotype too.

BUT, that is what the producers of these shows have concluded we all like nowadays, so that is what we are getting. Scripted "reality" television shows. As if THAT's not an oxymoron.

Ah well ... it's good enough, so I will keep watching, keeping in mind that I am watching actors play real people. I will continue to not hate any of the players, keeping in mind that it is fake reality television, not real reality television. :-)

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
This is scripted because the next thing you saw John and Jill out because you didn't see Drew and Kevin get to the mate or do the horses. I agree I still hate the BQ, and Rob and Amber. She does have it right Seamonkey. This is what I saw. I couldn;t belive it

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
still find it hard to understand why people get so upset over the contestants lying or misleading the other teams

people only get mad if it's a team they don't like. if they do like the team, it's just good strategy or game playing!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
How does not seeing Drew and Kevin get to the mat or do the horses prove that it is scripted?

I like all of these teams (some more than others of course). I'm even starting to like David and Mary a tiny bit more, now that they are racing on their own and showing a little toughness.

Although I loved them in the first season, Drew and Kevin are the biggest disappointment though as I don't think they are remotely capable of winning due to health reasons and lack of physical ability. Also they don't seem to care all that much so I think it's a shame that they agreed to participate.

Delilah
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07-08-2005

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Delilah a private message Print Post    
Rob and Amber can talk about being the other team's biggest competition because they are! In the previews for next week, it looks like several teams will work together to try to oust Rob and Amber.

Kizz -- I totally agree. They are already in the other teams' heads.

I think they have a great chance to win ... not a lot of physicially strong competition this time.

peace,
delilah

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Folks, let's be careful and keep our comments about the show itself and not about each other. Just state your own view, and leave out the derogatory comments about other posters' views. Thamk you.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
I still don't understand the intimidation by Rob to the other teams.

He has never won anything.

That would be my attitude if I were on the show. Why worry about Rob...I would be more concerned about U/J or even the BQ's than R/A.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
When Rob lies to another team, it doesn't bother me. What bothers me is his smirk while he does it. Part of the game is getting ahead of the other teams. Misdirecting (lying) is part of it. Rob seems to enjoy that part too much for my taste.

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
Great show..like them all but I am leaning towards the ChaCha's...I love them!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
We're kidding ourselves if we don't think that Rob won Survivor. There is no way that Amber could have won without Rob. Rob got the girl plus over a million dollars, plus a lot of television exposure, probably more endorsements, a televised wedding for which they were paid, all sorts of free products, two appearances on TAR (including a completely dominating first appearance, short of winning) plus their own show. Doesn't sound like a loser to me.

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 11:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
I thought they should have shown Drew & kevin hitting the mate before showning Jill and John being kicked off.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I thought they did.

Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lycanthrope a private message Print Post    
John V. & Jill must have been way behind Kevin & Drew. It's weird that they didn't show K & D doing the task or getting to the mat.

While I don't beleive the show is scripted exactly, I do think the producers have a bigger hand in leading the contestants down certain paths than they used to.

Eric came off different in his pairing with Danielle than he did on the AR he ran with his friend. He seemed more sure of himself. And Danielle seemed fine with letting him lead. They could be a tough team.

Oswald and Danny came off looking pretty good, also.

The preview said "Charla stands up to the BQ's", but the video showed Charla speaking roughly to one of them and the BQ in question says "Chill Out", and not even in a bad tone of voice. So I think that's probably a case of a 'false tease'.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
What I meant by scripting was about the INTERVIEWS.. just like in confessionals or diary rooms of other shows, or "on the fly" interviews on many shows, I think it is rarely just a spontaneous utterance that we are shown but they've been asked leading questions.

So it is hard for me to get all incensed over someone being "confident" or smiling (heaven forbid).

And yes, the teases build things up way out of proportion.

As for some of the teams seeming unprepared, well I can believe now that the Frat Boys decided that even if they went out early, they'd be put in some nice place for sequester and they must have known that they would still be filmed. Harder to believe that Mirna, who had to know there would be standard transmissions and that because cars wouldn't be adapted, Charla wasn't going to do any of the driving, wouldn't have taken some lessons. Heck, maybe she did, but was told to say she couldn't drive a five speed, which she of course then did.

I thought Mary's lie was a very negative thing because she was trying to get them to make the same stupid mistake Mary had just made and buy the wrong ticket without checking the arrival times. Of course the BQ were smart enough to think of that. And Mary just can't seem to help herself wanting to help others, after saying they were running their own race. As it turned out it did give Terri and Ian the last ticket on the first plane, but they still ended up last of that first group so were on the later shuttle anyway so it made no real difference. I don't see Terri and Ian repaying Mary; they really DO run their own race. Also funny that Mary and David are so in awe of former racers, yet they got Amber's name wrong. And there she was again running her mouth at him in the car.. would have hoped she'd have seen the last season and thought "OMG!".

I was never a .. well especially not a fan of Mirna, Charla can be ok at times but pit them against the BQs and I'm all for Mirna and Charla :-)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I was waiting for someone to mention that Mary got Amber's name wrong. At first we thought we just heard wrong and we were ROTFL when we realized what happened.

Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 12:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lycanthrope a private message Print Post    
One other thing I noticed was it seemed like David's Kentucky accent was thicker than it was in the last race.

I like watching the BQ's much more than Charla/Mirna, but I realize I'm in the minority on that opinion.

As long as the Guido's don't shove any ladies around physically, they seem like a good team to watch, also.

They showed that clip of David calling Amber "Kim" on the Early Show last week, and that might be why not a lot of people seemed to comment on it. It was most funny, though.

Karen
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09-07-2004

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
Am I the only one who saw them show Kevin and Drew coming in 10th place?? It didn't show them doing the Roadblock task, but there they were, on the mat with Phil, right before mine own eyes. Surely others saw that, too?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 1:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, I think it was David who called Amber "Kim" and then immediately realized he had it wrong.

I saw Kevin and Drew on the mat in 10th place.

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 2:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
That is why I said something because my station didn't show Kevin & Drew doing the roadblock test or getting on the mat.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 2:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Jimmer...it sounds like you're taking my personal dislike for Rob and Amber personally. :D

I laughed when D/M got Amber's name wrong.

Kevin and Drew should have stayed at home. There won't be any "Swing you fat Swing!" coming from them this season.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 2:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I saw Kevin & Drew on the mat, but they didn't do the task. The whole last few minutes of the show sped through that ending. Kevin & Drew arrive at the roadblock, then at the mat. John Vito and Jill arrive at the roadblock, then at the mat. Neither team was shown doing the task.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Jimmer...it sounds like you're taking my personal dislike for Rob and Amber personally. :D

LOL – Not at all Nick. I love a good discussion.

The whole show was rushed. Normally, the first show is 90 minutes but for some reason they squeezed it into 60. I was surprised when Phil said the last team to arrive would be eliminated.