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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 10:21 pm
I was confused about why Mary was upset at the Pit Stop. She seemed upset with Mirna and Charla, but I rewound and didn't find a confrontation. I saw the one with the Beauty Queens and M&C, but Mary seemed very upset. I didn't like M&C in the last race and I don't like them in this one. They are so agressive during the Race and then when called out, get all coy. At the Pit Stop, they were looking at the ground and kind of standing as if they were just two helpless women, when nothing could be further from the truth, lol. Is Drew ill or something? He seemed so angry and looked worn out.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 10:22 pm
She was upset because Mirna & Charla passed them (David & Mary) while driving.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 3:05 am
Because Mary was still being Mary just like the last season and expecting to make 'alliances'. They waited for Charla/Mirna and then Charla/Mirna flew past them like it didn't matter. Which it didn't matter to C/M but Mary thought it should. She felt betrayed.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 8:08 am
Drew was injured on the job and has some serious back injury. He is also heavily medicated, which, combined with the pain in his back, probably accounted for the change in his personality.
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Sheilaree
Member
07-19-2002
| Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 8:23 am
Mary needs to grow up,it a game and of course M/C are going to pass them just because Mary thinks they are friends, I don't think she lives in the "real world". Charla is a whinner and Mirina drives me nuts. I don't see anything wrong with what they did because it is a game for $$$.
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Vickie
Member
07-16-2004
| Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 9:35 am
Ok was that Mary who figured out first the puzzle room in this last show?? I have been impress with how she has come up with learning the language and surpassed people you would think were on top of it. Then it cracks me up with how she thinks being a friend to someone on this show means something it doesn't.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 10:25 am
Actually, I think it was my girl Dustin who figured the puzzle room out first. GO BQ's!
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 5:26 pm
Just because someone is from the South and speaks with a hillbilly accent does not mean they are dumb. She is more naive than dumb.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 6:02 pm
Uchenna is 41 or 42, Joyce is 45 or 46. (They were 40 and 44, respectively, in May of 2005.)
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Lizziedi
Member
10-05-2005
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 1:01 am
Thanks Spear, for posting the links to "The Finish Line". It was good to see Drew smiling, and both of them talking like true buddies, finishing each other's sentences. I'm glad you brought up the medication, Roxip, I was thinking the same thing, that it can alter someone's personality. I'm also a bit put off by Uchenna & Grace's opening statement, it sounded a little scripted. When in Africa, they seemed to have a life-changing moment. Whether they would adopt or not, have a child or not, they saw themselves more in terms of a bigger world picture, and it healed a lot of the past pain. I can't help wondering if the network influenced them, made it their "tag line". But I love them.
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Nerovh
Member
06-11-2005
| Friday, March 02, 2007 - 2:53 pm
Every failed attempt at getting pregnant puts new stress on a marriage. And with Joyce and Uchenna's ages, it probably is difficult to adopt. I am very close to a couple who had great difficulty in concieving. They waited until they had both finished school and had secure jobs before they tried to have a child, and then by the time they realized there was a problem, and then all the tests to diagnose the problem, they were in their thirties. When they looked into adoption, they learned it could take a very long time to go through all that the adoption process entailed. They decided to give it one more try to have their own baby, and they finally succeeded. But by the time they went through all this, they were in their late thirties, and age does play a factor in how the adoption agencies look at a couple. I feel very badly for Joyce and Uchenna because they both seem like really nice people but they look like they have had a lot of stress and disappointment lately. Adoption can be a truly wonderful thing, but it is not always possible or desirable for every couple. I think Uchenna and Joyce really do love each other, and I hope they are able to work through all their problems.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, March 02, 2007 - 3:17 pm
I hope they can too. The rules for foreign adoptions are not nearly as stringent as for in-country adoptions. However, having said that, adopting is MUCH more difficult than having your own natural child...when my BFF went through the process I was thinking (my little girl was newborn) that if I had to fill out all of these forms I would have just given up!
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Friday, March 02, 2007 - 5:05 pm
I know a lot of people who have adopted in the U.S. Unless you're trying to find a newborn, it is not that difficult. I have one friend who has adopted four children, the last one when she was 50 years old and the child was 5. I agree that infertility can rip people apart like nothing else can.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 12:33 am
My son-in-law was almost 50 when they adopted my granddaughter. She was three years old and considered hard to place because she is mixed race. The paperwork was mind boggling, but once they passed all the requirements (classes, background checks, inspections) they got the best kid anyone could ever want. If Joyce and Uchena really want a child, they should just make a call to their local county social service angency. They might not get an infant, but they could end up with a child who is almost as terrific as my granddaughter. 
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 1:27 am
And, some of those adoptions can be very reasonable. Isn't a child worth the time and effort of a few classes, meetings and a pile of paperwork? It would be for me.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 7:44 am
Unless you're trying to find a newborn, it is not that difficult. That is completely inaccurate. I know. I am in the waiting pool right now for a domestic adoption. It IS that difficult. Unless a severely handicapped child is what you want. Or a child over 12 or 13, then there are a ton....
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 7:53 am
A child for sure is worth all the paperwork and hoops. You have to fill out a ton (AND I mean a ton!) of paperwork. Then you have to have at least 5 letters written about you by friends, coworkers, neighbors, relatives and/or your priest, pastor, rabbi, etc. Then they have a social worker come out and interview you and inspect your house. Twice. You have to get copies of birth and marriage certificates, you need to get fingerprinted and have a background check done. You need to write a biography. Oh and go to several different type of classes (from parenting to CPR) There is more, but that is some stuff off the top of my head. Oh, not to mention the approximate $25,000 is cost. I just wish everyone who was going to have a child, went through all of that. It really makes you think and means you are prepared. The wait time is long. It is shorter for families who are willing to accept a mixed race child. But even then, it can be a loooong time. Most domestic adoptions have the birthmother chose a family. There is no guarantee that any particular family will ever get chosen. ANd that is clearly marked in the contract that you sign.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 2:27 pm
Oh, not to mention the approximate $25,000 is cost. It did not cost my kids anything. The county is free. The paperwork was incredible, but worth it. The inspections were a pain, the classes were boring, but it was all worth it. They didn't get an infant, but she was only 3, and she is a keeper. I know I might be a little prejudiced, but I think I got the best granddaughter in the world. PS by getting a three year old, they had some idea of any problems she might have. I know we are lucky, but she was born drug free, and although she was thought to be developmentally disabled, she is not at all... just made the honor roll in 7th grade. It took about two years of jumping through hoops, but once they were approved, they had my darling within three months.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 11:28 am
Julie, I agree with you about the preparation to become parents. AT the risk of sounding like a Nazi or Commie, I truely wish every person who's about to become parents were required to take some classes or something. The HS here gives classes called Early Child Development and maybe something more. But that's mostly, in my mind, for students to find out if they'd want to teach Primaries. Julie is probably in a tough area to adopt. Where or which state did your kids go through with the process, Mamabatsy? That might make a difference in their experience.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 12:29 pm
That is what I am thinking. Believe me, we have checked out everything in our state, and no way are there any three year olds. Yes, for fostering, but not for adoption. Maybe things have changed in 10 years? Ideally, I would love a 5, 6 or 7 year old boy plus a younger child. I have found out any young child that might even be near that age would be very severly mentally scarred.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 1:34 pm
My kids adopted through Los Angeles County. They still have thousands of children who are adoptable and are in foster care. If there is a shortage elsewhere, you'd think states and counties would coordinate so that the children who need homes can find them. Two things that sped up the placement were that they were willing to take a mild handicap and mixed race. They were not willing to take drug or alcohol addicted at birth. My granddaughter was considered unadoptable because she is mixed and she was thought to be mildly retarded. It turned out she just needed one on one teaching. No one had EVER read to her. It did take her a while to catch up, but she is above average now.
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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 3:29 pm
Mamabatsy I would like to give you a big hug. Your granddaughter is lucky to have such a loving grandma.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 4:42 pm
Thanks Supergranny, all hugs are welcome. Truth be told, I am the lucky one. I wish everyone who wants to adopt the joy that we have.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Monday, March 05, 2007 - 2:52 am
I typed a long message about adoption and foster kids. Then I realized this was not the thread to post it in so moved it to one called Adoption Issues in Parenting Place. Check with your local foster kids office to find out about adoptable kids.
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