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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 12:12 pm
Mary didn't just tell Lyn. Lyn asked Mary for the information. That surprised me as well. Everyone knew about the time penalty awaiting Mary and David.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 12:20 pm
Mary had her sweet moments, ITA about that! My main compliant with her was the way she yelled at David and while she can't change the quality of her voice, that may have had something to do with how bad it sounded. I loved seeing them experience things for the first time and her "wonder of it all" especially regarding people she had never met - i.e. Asians, gay people, etc. I too like the teams who have some humanity, but I also like to see them really compete in the race! My least favorite teams are always the nasty people no matter how well they race. What were the names of the couple who came in second in Chicago? I just loved them.. Jon and Kris maybe? They were such sweethearts and I would have loved to see them win. I have mixed feelings about the BQs. I actually thought them taking one of the other cars was nasty, not funny even though it didn't matter in the long run. They often and say and do things which make me cringe, but then they'll win me back with a decent attitude toward the race with one another and how they can be nice with some of the other teams outside of the 6pack. Their comment to the Chos about the paper was totally out of line and fell like a bomb if they were trying to be funny! Things sure have changed that I now like Kim and Rob. Just a few weeks ago I couldn't wait for them to leave because of their bickering and her ugly American comments. Thanks Chili for telling me what Kim said. Not so bad this time as when she was complaining about the dirty areas they were in with the yucky people and wanted to go to Europe, etc. This has been one race where my opinions have changed throughout depending on their actions to what degree I like them, with the exception of a couple teams I've always liked or always disliked. I want the final 3 to be James & Tyler, Kim and Rob and I guess the BQs deserve to be there since they've done so well, but wouldn't mind if it was the Chos either. 
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Nerovh
Member
06-11-2005
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 12:58 pm
I honestly don't hate Mary/David, but I don't like the way they raced any more than I like how someone like Jonathan/Victoria raced. It is possible to find a middle ground, I've seen others do it. ITA with Jimmer. TAR does NOT have to be a "friendship vs. money" game. There have been some very nice people who have also managed to do well in the race. I loved the clowns, I loved Kris and Jon (probably my all-time favorites). Mary's comments about choosing friendship really irked me. She doesn't seem to realize that you can still be friends and compete at the same time. Just because you don't tell the team you are up against for elimination where something is doesn't mean you can't be their "friend". And I'm sorry, but David is a coal miner. That is a dangerous, dirty, thankless job, and if they had a real opportunity to improve circumstances for themselves and their children, they should have taken full advantage of it. Where are Lyn/Karlyn going to be when it's time to pay college tuition or if D/M can't make their house payment? It doesn't make you a "devil", as Mary put it, just because you try to win. I also agree with Jimmer that Mary's comments come across as falsely noble, because if the Chos hadn't given them that FF, they would have been gone long before they were. They didn't really choose friendship over money, they (esp. Mary) didn't put forth as much effort as was necessary to get themselves farther in the race, and I'm sure it makes them feel better to think they had a higher reason for losing.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 1:02 pm
I agree with Kimmy. Mary's comment was in relation to the fact that if winning the money meant she had to snub her friend, then the money wasn't worth it. She helped one of the Mom's locate first stamp. Not sure if that simple act cost her the game, but she chose to help and take her chances. I applaud Mary for that, and I don't think it makes her any less a competitor because she chose to play that way.... ...I like Mary/David... but am pulling for the Cho bros... I will however, settle for ANYONE to win other than the BQ's. They are the some of the worst sports I've seen on this show....I simply cannot stand their gloating....ICK!!
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Suzsmarmie
Member
07-26-2005
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 3:06 pm
Sorry, the 'Bama's crocodile tears didn't bring their stock up with me. If it had, it would have been quickly dashed by the "black angel" comment. Yeah, the BQs snarky comments cause me to roll my eyes sometimes, but being snarky week in and week out just makes me want to personally show up and trip the 'Bamas anytime, any place, anywhere to keep them from getting a dime. And I wanted to smack the Cho bros; wake up and smell the coffee, guys. The Bamas would "thow you under the bus" in a happy heartbeat. I really like them too, but darn...play the game, please!!
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 3:23 pm
Agreed, Kep, anyone BUT the bq's. The car along with that comment about the Cho's was just tonight. They are offensive every episode, but I guess that doesn't matter because they're beauty queens ... :: insert eye rolling here:: FWIW, I'm not fond of the single mom's either, but not liking one doesn't excuse the other for bad behaviour.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 3:33 pm
What was the black angel comment? I missed that as well as the last half of the show (AGAIN!)thanks to football.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 3:34 pm
Thinking about next week, I don't see how the moms wouldn't go. Now that David/Mary are gone, they are by far and large the slowest.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 3:42 pm
BUT, the obligatory "moms" team has NEVER gotten this far along in the race before. So kudos to them.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 4:14 pm
The Bowling Moms in TAR5 finished 4th.
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Sallycat22
Member
08-31-2005
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 4:35 pm
On the show this morning, I loved the fact that David and Mary were house guests of the gay team, who had shown them New York City. David said their children thought they were movie stars and were crying when they were eliminated. As some one said before, Mary will be talking about this in Wal Mart for many years to come. I'd rather go on a trip with them than the beauty queens any day.
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Lori
Member
04-18-2003
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 5:10 pm
Native...the teams were supposed to find a statue of the "Black Angel", which interestingly enough had been painted white. Anyway one of the "Lyns" said something to the effect that she was the "Black Angel" and the cab driver gave her a funny look. I like the beauty queens but not because they're "beauty queens". I think they're fun and they are really having a blast. Yes they have made some not so nice comments but other teams have said some pretty nasty stuff about the BQ's as well.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 5:28 pm
I'm not sure why it's wrong for the BQ's to feel good about themselves and how they are doing in the game and express those good feelings to each other? Didn't the St. Louis Cardinals get very happy and high five each other when they were winning the World Series? Don't most athletes show excitement when they get something right or are performing well? It's not demeaning to your opponents or necessarily egotistical to be happy or proud when your performance is good. One of the reasons that successful people are successful is that they have self-confidence. One of the ways that people on teams are successful is they express that self-confidence to each other and build up each other's confidence. Isn't that something that is nice to see, as opposed to the teams that berate each other and tear each other down? The BQ's aren't gloating - they are happy. Shouldn't we be cheering the BQ's for being positive and supportive of each other?
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 6:08 pm
Jimmer - you said that very well.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 6:15 pm
I don't mind when they are supportive of each other. It does bother me when they make fun of the other teams, or gloat. True high performers do not demean their opponents.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 7:28 pm
I keep thinking how I play poker with friends and we play to win, we love each other dearly but dont help each other during game or ask for help cuz we are in a competition. We are only playing for about 100 bucks so i can just imagine if we were playing for a mil!! LOL if one of them asked me where to find a stamp I would say 'love ya but cant tell ya!' and I would expect the same from my friend
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Trueheart
Member
09-12-2006
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 7:40 pm
First it was the grossest stuff EVER and then there was a ton of it!!! Compare that to the FF Mary and David had to do?!!! Not fair! I was thinking the same thing! It really is not fair! They would have gone so fast if all they had to do was run up to a fire and pick an envelope out of the box! Humph! I absolutely loved, loved, loved Dustin/Kandice taking an unwrecked car and leaving the wrecked one for someone else. Me too! Jimmer your post was very well said! I agreed with it wholeheartedly!!!
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 8:52 pm
What was offensive about the Black Angel comment? I thought it was adorable. Those women can't get a break from anyone here. She said something on the order of "Why are we looking for a Black Angel, I'm right here" with a huge mischievous smile. They were also really upset that David and Mary are gone. I like both David and Mary and the two Lyns because they are real people. They aren't models, they aren't "special" in any way, they are just folks on an adventure. I'd take either team or the Cho's over any of the other three teams in a heartbeat. I wish they'd stop putting models, actors and beauty queens in the show. I prefer regular people. If the Barbie Queens win this thing, I will puke. They are just mean girls grown up. They remind me of Nelly Olsen.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 8:57 pm
I wasnt offended by the comment but I DID ROTF at the way the cabbie looked at her! LOL
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 9:00 pm
Again, just give me some soy and sesame oil, maybe a bit of chili-fermented black beans, I could have eaten the Cow lips after cleaning off the hair and teeth.
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Loyolamom
Member
05-10-2005
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 9:51 pm
In Rosie O'Donnell's "Ask Rosie" today someone mentioned the Kentucky team. They asked her to please do something for them. She said to watch The View tomorrow. Wonder if they're going to be on and if she's going to give them a gift.
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Yacky
Member
07-06-2005
| Monday, November 06, 2006 - 10:51 pm
I agree Mamabatsy I think when she made the black angel comment she was just having fun. I think when the Chos said they would give up first place for the six pack they were talking about that leg not the final leg, and i think they were helping each other as a benefit for themselves also. If the boys had teamed up with someone that could read a map earlier then maybe they wouldnt have gotten lost so many times. Hope this makes sense as I am typing while trying to get son to sleep.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 5:23 am
Jimmer I guess we just see the BQ's in different lights. I always like the positive supportive teams, which is why I don't like the BQs. Kar said it best. They may be positive and supportive, but its done with "nah nah nah nah nah" overtones to the other teams. Its one thing to be confident and positive about your own skills and accomplishments, and I enjoy the enthusiasm of winning teams. But the BQ's attitude doesn't really reflect that kind of sportsmanship. They are beautiful women, with their blondness and competition winning smiles, but I think they could use some beauty enhancements in the inside. You don't have to promote yourself by demoting everyone around you. Jes my take on them....and yes...Nelly Olsen in stereo....
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 6:48 am
I don't see Nellie Olsen in them at all. I see confidence and fun. No bickering. I really think they are getting judged harder cuz they are good looking and were beauty pageant winners. I think if they were "average" that they'd get a lot more support. I only see a small amount of "nah-nah" kind of stuff and since they are in the lead, they do have that right...
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 6:50 am
What Kar said is what I was thinking.. I don't mind at all that the BQ's celebrate and support each other, but they also gloat when it isn't needed and continually celebrate that others won't like them or do things that aren't necessary. Not a fan of the Lyn's but I thought the black angel comment was cute and totally non-offensive and heck, the supposed "black angel" is painted white anyway! I think David and Mary will be local celebs and may get other opportunities a la Chicken George if they want. They also won a great trip and I just think this will make a big difference and may actually be better than having a huge amount to possibly blow (harking back to his plans that would have eaten up that amount easily).. they will have public attention and I think it will help. I hope. But I'm fine with them leaving now.
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