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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 7:16 am
ITA!! Probably my shortest post EVER!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 7:22 am
ITA also Chilli!!!
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 7:35 am
Birds of a feather flock together. You can choose who you want for your friend. If one of the Lyns found the other one's behavior deplorable, she could choose not to be friends with her. Lyn and Karlyn are exactly alike.
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Whrlwnd
Member
10-13-2006
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 9:11 am
Speaking for myself, neither of these 2 women teams is representative of me, or how I would behave if I were competing. Both teams have given me too many (what I call) "cringe moments". "Cringe moments" being those inevitable times when the contestants either do or say something that makes me cringe & think "Ohhh...I sure wish they hadn't said/done that". Unfortunately, everyone has occasional "cringe moments" where they(we) say or do something inappropriate. However, given too many of those moments I prefer not to root for that team anymore. Doesn't mean they do or don't deserve to win, just means they're no longer my favored choice. This is one reason I'm still happily rooting for the boys, Tyler/James. For me, personally, they've only caused me to half-cringe twice. Plus, James is the one contestant who actually provides me w/ some comic relief. I find him a little goofy at times, and he actually makes me chuckle. LOL! I'm not much of a debater, so I haven't had much to say other than "Yea or Boo", guess I made up for my lack of input w/ this one. Don't worry, though, I'll probably go back to "Yea or Boo", now.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 10:57 am
Whrlwnd, I agree. Nice way of putting it - "cringe moments". 
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 11:02 am
I don't think I'm judging the BQs harshly because they are blond and beautiful. I actually don't think they are any worse than the Lyns when it comes to attitude or behavior. I just don't think they are any better either. Its easy to claim that there isn't a "beautiful crowd" standard in this country, but studies have shown that the closer you are to the "standards" of what is commonly held as beautiful (as in beauty queen beautiful), the better your chances are that people are going to treat you better then someone who is not part of that standard. That is all I meant from the "beautiful crowd" statement. I am just posting my opinion which wasn't meant to be "unfair" or to "insinuate" anything about any other poster. I have no desire for anyone to internalize or take my opinions personally. They are just my view on things.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 11:10 am
As I posted somewhere much earlier, Lyn and Karlyn both would be very pretty if they would just smile and get the chip off their shoulders. I've seen a picture ~ I know I did ~ really ~ once of Karlyn smiling and she looked very pretty. It's that snarl she always has on her face and her very, very bad attitude that makes her not be liked and not be pretty. Pretty is as pretty does you know. The difference for me between the BQs and the Lyns is the attitude they accept all things with, grace and dignity or snarling and snottiness.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 12:12 pm
Kandice did say "She's such a b*tch" after they left the ticket agent in Milan. It was a very quick comment and the closed captioning didn't catch it. I had to slow down my recording and replay it about 10 times to figure out exactly what she said, but she did say it. 
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 12:23 pm
I still dont like the way the BQs sneer 'sistah', the way they say it is very derogatory
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 12:23 pm
Kandace said "This is a b*tch" and Dustin said "she was so unkind and unhelpful". I just played it back, and I got "this is a b*tch."
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 12:25 pm
I keep getting the impression that the models and Kim and Rob don't like the BQs either. They have indicated numerous times that they would like to see those two gone. I am beginning to wonder if there is more to it than "they are good competitors". No one seems to like the BQs very much. I find them arrogant and lacking in humility. Bleck!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 1:54 pm
The problem with suggesting that some viewers like or dislike the BQs because of their appearance is that it implies that those viewers are rather shallow. It also implies that L/K's appearance causes people to like them less. I think L/K look just fine. I have much less trouble with the suggestion that people like the BQs because they smile more than L/K. I'll be the first to admit that in general I like people who smile a lot and have fun, more than people who act sour and miserable. Everyone is entitled to a few bad moments but when a few bad moments become a continuous display, then it gets a bit tiresome. Also, I don't think the BQs are faking it but even if they are faking it – I don't care. It's like going into a store to buy something. The sales clerk could be having a crummy day and feeling lousy about things, but if she smiles at me, I'm likely to smile back at her. And the funny thing is that she will likely feel better for it. And vice versa. 
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 2:05 pm
I think that the other players are mostly irritated about the BQs because of their success...the models and Rob/Kim missed a HUGE opportunity to get rid of a strong competitor when they didn't yield them. On the whole I haven't seen any real animosity between these three teams...other than all realizing they are all strong competitors and trying to beat one another. The big problem here is that they may tend to overlook the Lyns and they sneak in for the win.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 2:06 pm
I never said anyone likes or dislikes the BQs for whatever reason. I believe they are given passes on their bad behavior because of their looks. This is not an unknnown concept, nor does it imply that I think anyone is shallow. It is simply my opinon. Nothing more.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 5:49 pm
I can buy she said "this is a b*tch"...I knew I heard something but wasn't sure. All this discussion about the BQ's and L/K...J/T are just cruisin' through. I'll sit over here on the I don't care for L/K or the BQ's and not really into the Models, so that just leaves R/K...YEAH" couch
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Tvjunkie
Member
11-26-2006
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 6:01 pm
I cringe when people say "choice better friends" and if you're friends act this way then you must be just like that....That's just silly. I bet if someone told you to find better friends because they just don't like who you hang around you would tell them to take a hike. I think one of the Lyns have a better attitude then they other...that's all. Guilt by association in this case where you DON'T see everything is crap... AND...in this country and many many other countries if you are the beauty standard you do get away with more.... that is a fact... When the players were asking people to let them go ahead of the crowd to get the taxis first I KNEW no one would let the Lyns do that...even though the others were successful with it soo I was glad they just took the cab anyway because NO ONE would have let them go ahead of them even with a nice smile and a "please" I like them and I really hope they go further...
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Tvjunkie
Member
11-26-2006
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 6:06 pm
Chip and Kim were big competitors but no one was screaming " we want them out". Chip and Kim and the hippies where my very very favorite winners...
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 6:38 pm
I agree, Tvjunkie, about Chip and Kim and the hippies. They were my favorites also. And people liked them because of their great attitudes.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 7:05 pm
Some of the past teams said that the yield was 30 minutes. It is in an hour timer but it's a 30 minute yield.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 7:29 pm
Why do you suppose that T/J and R/K didn't use the yield on the BQs? It is a competition, it's all part of the game and T/J have talked about how the BQs are their toughest competition. If they don't like the BQs as some have suggested (and I think that they do like them), surely they would have used the yield. As far as the BQs yielding L/K, well there wasn't anyone else left to yield.
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 8:40 pm
Jimmer, before they used the yield they had a lot of time outside the gate to talk about it. I think they were all shocked knowing that L/K had beat them all to the gate in that leg and they realized that they were underestimating them and that maybe the 6 pack had been holding them back. I think they all knew that in a foot race to the yield box that L/K were going to be the last team, but still you can't be sure and when teams are bunched up that close together it doesn't make sense to yield anyone but the last team. I think they decided that the third team to the box would yield the last team whoever they were. I think the BQs would have been crazy not to yield L/K, but at the same time it doesn't bother me that L/K got snitty about it because who the hell wouldn't? It doesn't matter that they were going to yield the BQs, it still sucks to be yielded and it doesn't bother me if anyone whines about it. I did think it was ugly to flip off the BQ and when Lyn chided her I think you could see on Karlyn's face that she knew Lyn was right. I think this show was full of ugly moments from all of them. I couldn't believe that the models and R/K just drove off happily leaving the BQs when they saw them being surrounded by guys. I don't think the crowd was dangerous. I think they were just coming out to look at the cameras, but still. I also was ticked when the BQs were driving behind R/K giggling about them having a flat tire and not telling them immediately! That was dangerous and they could have been seriously hurt because it's easy for a car with a flat tire to go out of control on a stretch of bad road, especially if you don't even realize that the tire is flat. Yes, they eventually told them, but I think they took too long doing it because you shouldn't mess around when someone's life is at stake just because you are competing in a game. I've listened to the tape over and over and you cannot convince me that the BQ didn't say, 'She's a '. She didn't say it to her face or where she could hear it, so I don't care, though. It's not fair to the employee who was only doing their job, but still the BQs were just blowing off steam. I do continue to have a problem with their 'sistahs' remarks, though.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 2:24 am
You guys all have better ears and better recorders than I do cuz I've listened to that a few times and I just don't get anything out of it. She said something but I can't clearly say what she said.
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Whrlwnd
Member
10-13-2006
| Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 9:24 am
I have gotten the impression that J/T & R/K are wary of the BQ's in a game sense, but between legs those 3 teams seem to be on friendly terms. Jimmer (& anyone else who's wondered), there are unseen clips from the Sunday ep where both J/T & R/K explain their reasoning behind not using the Yield. Basically, it was a karma-thing for both teams. Kim said she/R felt if it didn't pay off it would leave someone gunning for them. (Rob still wasn't sure they shouldn't have used it.) I have to say, I don't have that killer competitive instinct either, b/c even though I think the Yield is a good advantage to use, I'd feel rotten about doing it to someone - that's just me, I'm a softie.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 9:32 am
I don't terribly dislike nor like any of the remaining teams. There are things about each team I like, and things about each team I dislike. It does demonstrate to me that, while I still watch for the travel info and scenes, either really liking or really hating a team DOES help the viewers' enjoyment of a reality show.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 12:23 am
I think Lyn and Karlynn's anger was part frustration that they were yielded at all but also because for once they were way ahead and got caught in one of those horrible bunching points and then it wasn't just running to do a task but for the YIELD. The same thing happened to, I'm blanking on the names but that great father and daughter team and when they ran to get numbers one was hit on the head by a gate and it literally knocked them into last place for the numbers and they were out that round. I hate it when the bunching causes it all to boil down to a footrace. I think the Lyns were more upset about that but took it out talking about the BQs. And anyway they caught up, went ahead and guess who has to be first next time? Karma, baby!
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