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Starshine40
Member
07-30-2002
| Monday, September 25, 2006 - 4:45 pm
Peter had stated in an earlier episode that the leg was leaking hydraulic fluid and that was something that he couldn't fix.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Monday, September 25, 2006 - 7:15 pm
It might be that he can't just walk into the Home Depot and buy the parts that are needed...it might be something specialty, which makes me wonder why they didn't bring spare parts to begin with...better to have all your bases covered.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Monday, September 25, 2006 - 7:33 pm
Linkers, I think in a past AR when they were in Egypt a team of 2 men helped 2 women with a task that required strength. I like the Kentucky couple the best so far. I wonder why Sarah didn't use the foot shaped prosthetic to climb the China wall. She had it when they rode the horse.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Monday, September 25, 2006 - 7:44 pm
Calamity, hangai is very close. In fact, the term hangai is on the same website with what I think is the name of the animal we are looking for, which is a cow/yak hybrid. Google mongolian yaks and look at the hybrid names. Still, in my further research, the beasts pulling the carts in the challenge looked much more like pure yaks than they did hybrids. But not all of the beasts looked alike, so maybe there was a mixture of yaks and hybrids. Peter and Sarah's looked like a yak. The one with fire in his eye, lol.
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Monday, September 25, 2006 - 9:24 pm
good post Nero I am staying silent on the sarah bashing since i dont want to come across as defending her simply because she has a disability - but i agree - she hasnt done anything yet that deserves bad karma... this is about a game where you use what you have to succeed, so if she preboards as she would always be able to do, that is just normal just like she cant get extra equipment since that would not be normal. The rest of this post is just my own educated guesses but i would think sarah would only be able to pack whatever legs they could carry with them, so any extra parts would be too much to carry I also think she didnt use the foot brace at the wall for one of two reasons - either because she didnt think she had time to change and more importantly because the foot brace probably is not as flexible as the other running one and so it would be hard to bend at the knees climbing up with that one. but i could be wrong
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, September 25, 2006 - 10:24 pm
My DH is one who always has "something to say" about participants of these shows like TAR and Survivor. When they recapped about Sarah boarding early, he commented that it didn't really give her any advantage. The plane wasn't going to leave w/o the others!! I'm still rooting for her, but I'm not so positive about her partner. DH had to tease our DD who was a cheerleader for 7 yrs about all the "cheerleader stereotypes". He told her he guessed it was true that cheerleaders were a bit flakey or something like that since the girls lost and didn't even bother to go and look for that helmet. All he remembered was them sitting there waiting for the guy to find it. Of course, then I had to explain editing to him (LOL) and how they could have looked for a quite a while before they rested and the guy looked. I think this is the first season of TAR we're actually watching together because he doesn't like to get into anything that starts after 9pm since he has to get up for work at 4:30 a.m. It was fun to tell him about some of the background info we find out afterward as to the length of time they're at challenges and Phil having to wash his hair w/bottled water only to make it to the matt minutes before the first team. Maybe I liked the cheerleaders because my DD was one for so long... MS-HS. She quit when it came to college. She is sort of blonde though... LOL Family joke. One other thing... the models do seem really close and could be possibly more than just friends, however, now and in the past I've often pondered it's really unfair to men who are close friends, etc., being questioned that there is something more since no one questions close relationships/friendshps w/women. FWIW 
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Monday, September 25, 2006 - 10:31 pm
I think Peter & Sarah were just feeling rushed at the wall, because it looked like the foot is something that attaches below the knee and wouldn't affect the flexibility. I think Peter believes he is giving Sarah emotional support. Sometimes it seems like too much, like when she had to tell him to quit lecturing her. Even Bela Karolyi would tell him to take it down a notch. It's like she has to prove herself to the world and show everyone how strong she is. That has to get aggravating at times. She's not a show pony, but she's letting herself be treated like one. I think Donners explained above the kharma idea that people are talking about, but I'd call it more of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Play up the idea that you're too feeble to wait with the others, and slowly it becomes true as the knee develops a leak. I just wonder why she'd be doing unnecessary running and bouncing on that knee for those onlookers given its compromised condition. Why on Earth would they need to panhandle at this point in the game? Maybe if they had come in last and had their money taken away to start the next round it would've been more understandable. I didn't mind the moms passing the models on the road, but that could be because I've yet to warm up to the models. I didn't like the way they rejoiced over the brothers getting in trouble with security at the airport last week. If they've been that charming with the other teams, it might explain why none helped them. The fact that they were the lead team after the first round might also have been a factor. It was almost like having a yield on the biggest threat without using up a yield to do it. Oh, and wasn't it horrible when Kim got knocked off that horse and Rob didn't even climb down to check on her? Bad boyfriend! Bad, bad boyfriend!
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 12:02 am
I cheered when the asian boys got in trouble for the squirt guns too. It was oh so annoying. If I'd been there getting squirted they would be happy to see the security guys show up. The model boys are just friends IMO. They've been to hell and back together and that makes a tight bond if you ask me. I don't see emotional support from Peter. I see Peter basically ignoring her theatrics and telling her to get it together no matter what. She borders on the Fogle daughter to me with her little tantrums. And, I liked that he called her on her meltdown. She's an ironman triathlete. She is supposed to be tough. I don't see the tough.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 3:33 am
Well, I rewatched the show and now I get to tell DH that it wasn't the cheerleaders who lost the hat. It was the beauty queens and they made it to the matt in the middle!!! Haha.. So much for his cheerleading stereotype to tease our DD!! The cheerleaders had trouble with directions and their car not starting. That was their downfall!!
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 4:42 am
"She used a legitimate service provided by an airline, and she got NO benefit except to get settled in their assigned seats before the other passengers boarded." I've had my seat taken by a handicapped pre-boarder. Even tho I had an assigned seat in the front, I was prempted by a man in a cast. If Sara parlayed her handicap into a seat near the front of the plane she would most definitely been given the advantage. Anyone notice where she was on the plane in relation to the other teams?
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 7:10 am
sarah and peter have two different styles - as sarah explained - she may cry but she keeps going thrugh the crying while peter wants to halt everything and "work it out" ... i think its "tough" when you have breakdown and keep going, working through that "pain" and not letting it stop you in your tracks.... i would much rather see a whiner that yells while completing a task, than someone that just stops and drops, not being able to move on, like some teams in the past have.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 7:23 am
Someone commented earlier about previous contestants getting stitches. Those were medical emergencies which affected the physical well-being of those people. I like Sarah and I have no problem with anything she has done so far, but a hydraulic fluid leak is not detrimental to her physical health and unless she has another prothesis in her backpack, she should have to make do. Also, it could be that she does have another prosthesis in her backpack, but wants to wait until she has no alternative left but to use it. In other words, she is going to get as many miles out of the bad one as she can because they still have a long way to go and it hasn't even started to get tough yet.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 7:35 am
Kep, IIRC, she still sat in the midst of folks (not in a bulkhead seat). WRT Peter... I was kinda holding judgement on him until this episode. The way he was lecturing Sarah was a wee bit too condescending for me. He smacks of the stereotyped "oily" motivational speaker. I dunno if their "relationship" is as those have hypothesized, but something does seem "off" in it. She just needed to have a "moment" but he had to stand there, hand gestures and all, and tell her what she should do/feel. Bleah. I didn't really have much of a reaction to the pandering the two did to the crowds, or to the moms not stopping to loan a jack. I did think, though, that the fact they didn't stop to help might could come back to bite 'em in the butt later on. This early in the game, it can behoove you to help out a fellow team cuz you just may need help a bit later on. Oh well. Monday morning quarterbacking is always fun!
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 11:20 am
I really didn't see Sarah having any "tantrums". Everyone was getting frustrated with those tasks, Sarah didn't throw any kind of fit that needed a lecture. Peter never seems to want to give her a minute to work things out for herself without his constant "motivation" or comments. From her comments after they got to the mat, I don't think Sarah was that impressed with how Peter acted either.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 12:11 pm
I didn't see any tantrums either.... ...but her constant whining gets on my nerves...
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 12:21 pm
Does anybody else think this show needs to be on twice a week...it seems like it is a LONG time until next Sunday!
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 12:30 pm
I lived with a man for 11 years who thought he knew better than me how I felt and what I was thinking and how I should word what I say (I would respond with "well, you didn't give me my script for the day"). I think if anyone tried that now, there would probably be need for emergency assistance in one form or another.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 1:37 pm
Believe her when she says that...LOL!
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 1:37 pm
Oh I'm a believer!!!
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Suzsmarmie
Member
07-26-2005
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 3:21 pm
Good comeback, NT..I love it. 
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 4:28 pm
My husband of 30 years thinks he knows what I should have done or said about everything all the time. I just listen and wait til he goes away and then do whatever I want. I'm gonna have to rewatch the eps cuz Peter hasn't bothered me too much yet. Sarah's whining does bother me though. The single mom's snarking about the other teams and then not even stopping long enough to find out what the boys wanted put them over the edge and on my I want them gone list. They were mean to not stop for 2 seconds. It's not like the boys expected them to change their tire and I'll bet if the situation was reversed the boys would have stopped and helped. I just had that experience with a very low tire and no place open to get it changed. Granted we were not in a race but it was late Sunday night in a very small town in the middle of nowhere. The guy at the quick store told me I should know how to change my own tire and was mean about it. I went out to figure it out and the next thing I knew I had 5 guys (strangers to each other) stop to change it. They all stood around arguing over the right way to change the tire, kept bringing out all their tools and they got it done for me. Even though it was a small town it was the middle of red salmon fishing season that's why they were strangers.
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Trueheart
Member
09-12-2006
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 5:36 pm
Just catching up on comments.... I cheered when the asian boys got in trouble for the squirt guns too. It was oh so annoying. If I'd been there getting squirted they would be happy to see the security guys show up. I agree!! I think as grown up ADULTS they should know how serious that is! The models weren't saying mean things, they were just laughing. Which is what I did too. I was saying to the TV "What IDIOTS!! LOL The model boys are just friends IMO. They've been to hell and back together and that makes a tight bond if you ask me. Just because two people are close doesn't mean it's a sexual way. When you kick an addiction you need really DEVOTED people around you to depend on. I also think it's just a really tight bond! As far as Sarah throwing "tantrums"..well...I've never noticed it. I do however agree about the creepy vibe everyone is getting about their relationship. Sarah did get some points from me when she told Peter off. They DO NOT have time to be stopping and "talking things out". I had a little bit more respect for her when she told him she was upset but wanted to keep with the task at hand. She IS good at toughing it out. BTW I was shocked by that crazy animal!!! It was insane! I'm glad that no one got hurt! I really could DO WITHOUT Kimberly and Rob. I can't stand to watch unsupportive teams. The teams I always like best are those that support each other when: *They are in a crappy mood *Have a really tough task to get through *They are so far behind that they are "sure" they will be eliminated It is VERY EASY to be supportive when things are going your way. I LOVE to see teams that stay positive even when they are in last or second to last place. That is one thing that I loved about BJ and Tyler. They were almost always positive! Colin and Christie, Lake and Michelle, Joseph and Monica (MoJo) and Victoria and John(?)....there is usually one team on every season (sometimes two)....this is the team that I always look forward to THE LEAST!!!
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 8:11 pm
I guess I just don't get why Lyn and Karlyn are being singled out as mean for driving past the models when they weren't the first people to pass them and they weren't the last. They had to know that other teams had passed these guys already, and if the others had continued on then of course they should as well since it is a race. They could see that the guys were not hurt in an accident. They just had tire trouble, and the moms couldn't fix that even if they wanted to. I had the opposite reaction as Chiliwilli to Peter bringing up Sarah's "meltdown" in the car. A guy I dated called me a name one night that got me angry. I didn't cry or scream at him, but I didn't talk to him for the rest of the night either. He waited two days to call me, then instead of apologizing he wanted me to explain my behavior. Needless to say, I dumped him immediately. Peter gave me a flashback with that remark. He wanted Sarah to acknowledge that she was the one who had acted like a jerk, and not the guy who had barked at her to quit their task and waste time trying another one that didn't work out, only to return to her original idea which did in fact work out fine. Sadly, she seemed to acquiesce once again. All I'm going to add about the models and the muscle guys is that if they were all women we'd probably see posts accusing the models of jealousy.
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Suzsmarmie
Member
07-26-2005
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 9:56 pm
Curly, to me, it wasn't WHAT they did, it's WHAT they said as they were driving past them. I totally understand playing the game to win, don't get me wrong. If I were on tv, I think I would stop and think about saying "Peace out, screw them" and at least act sympathetic..lol. The comment just lacked class, IMHO...which is worth, hmmmmm....
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 10:27 pm
Yeah, Suzsmarmie, it was definitely their attitude that got me. In all fairness though, they really didn't show anyone else's reaction/comments as they went by. Curlyq, if I had a meltdown and my husband dared to say anything about it he would be dying a slow, painful death. I guess I can't explain what it is but Sarah just annoys me to no end with her whining and Peter doesn't bother me so far. I am going to rewatch and pay more attention to him though. I think I've just been ignoring him pretty much so he hasn't gotten to me yet.
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