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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 11:41 am
Kep, get outta my head. It's like that around here for quite a few shows. The so called beautiful people get away with the same things that the average to not so attractive people get villified for. Their behavior is excused with comments like "well, so and so did it first" or "well, everyone just hates them because they are beautiful" gag ... if they were as beautiful inside as they supposedly are outside, everyone (who everyone is I'm not sure) would not hate them. And just because some people criticize their bad behavior doesn't make them haters.
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 11:46 am
Yay for the other Rosie! It looks like David and Mary may have done better with the gifts from Rosie than if they had won TAR?!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 11:56 am
LOL - The theory seems to be that the BQ's beauty must have distracted their fans from seeing all of their nefarious deeds. So to help me out, since we are discussing this, what are all the terrible things that the BQ's have done?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 11:57 am
Hey, the model guys are "beautiful" too, and I like them better than the BQs. It's not about how people look, it is about how they act. I hated Mary's whining and even more, hated the way she spoke to her hubby. At the same time, I liked how wide-eyed she viewed the adventure in many places, her genuineness, and her kindness to strangers. As for the BQs, they are good racers, and smart. I like the way they support each other, but I find their doggy comments about others to be very ugly. I just think it's very unattractive to gloat over others, and it's something that I know I work on with my son all the time. Be proud of doing well, but don't needle others for not doing as well.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 11:59 am
What doggy comments K? I'm not being difficult saying this - I just don't recall any specific ones that stood out above anyone else's doggy comments or actions.
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Nerovh
Member
06-11-2005
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:16 pm
I just haven't seen the BQ's as gloaters. Maybe I missed something, I just don't see them as "neener, neener, neener" types. I've seen them celebrate their wins, but who doesn't do that? I haven't always liked the things they say, but I have started to like them overall. I think that the division between the "backpack/six-pack" and the other teams is just as much the fault of the six-packers themselves, and I've seen the same kinds of behavior from teams on both sides. The only one that actually seems to revel in the misfortune of others is that one lady on the moms' team.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:27 pm
Jimmer...I guess the one act the BQs did that kinda sums up how I see them is their actions concerning the wrecked car. They are the ones who wrecked the car. That in itself isn't a bad thing, stuff happens to everyone. But they purposefully left the wrecked car for someone else...and then gloated about it. The fact that they took someone else's car isn't what bugs me either...but what was the purpose of gloating? Why did the BQs take such glee in doing that? Taking someone else's car didn't advance them in the race, nor did it slow the another team down, so why take such glee in the fact that someone else had to take the car they wrecked? I could accept the reasoning if they had left the wrecked car for another team to possibly put someone further behind in the race thereby advancing themselves....but what was the point this time? And then to gloat about it? That to me just says the BQs think they are better than others...and they do things just to be mean. I don't hate them... I just don't think they are nice people...
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:32 pm
For me, my deal with the BQ's is that I just don't like them, can't really list why, maybe before the end of the show I could come up with a list. It's just like in real life when you are introduced to someone, and right away you get the feeling that they think they are better or above you. I sense that they are fake, kind of like the Fugals? from Treasure Hunters. My radar goes off on those two but I would never hate someone just for being unlikable to me.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:34 pm
Ok, I can list one thing that they do that irrates me. They smile smugly, can't stand it.
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:36 pm
The Young Ladies leaving the wrecked car did surprise me but it made me laugh. No one else has ever changed cars - that I recall, anyway. The Two Moms physically trying to prevent someone from helping the Young Ladies did not bother me either. The comments they made about someone having to get stitches did bother me. I really don't want to make-up a chart for who said what to whom. I just want to be surprised and perhaps be impressed with the scenery and wait to see who wins TAR. If I can get a laugh or two at the same time, that is a plus. Sometimes we are the ones that are putting so much negativity out in the cosmos, not the contestants. Most of them do have a sense of humor.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:47 pm
This isn't addressed at anybody in particular, but when people say some variation of "people only like the BQs because they're beautiful" it suggests your opinion of people who like the BQs is that they don't see further than first impressions. And that's not very nice. And on this board I'd guess it's pretty much 100% inaccurate too. I'm sure they get help in the race because they're pretty, particularly with the young men, but I think most viewers, and particularly us intelligent folk here, see the whole picture. I like the BQs. I like all the teams except for the little Lyn. Oh and the guy with the scary eyes .
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:47 pm
It's a game, it's a race! We don't really know the personalities of these people...we just see what the editors want us to see. Mary and David hit the lottery as far as getting stuff. Good for them! Hope they don't think that they can live forever on their fame and glory though. Lyn and Karlyn probably have pretty rough lives (although I did bow up on whomever pulled out that "the south is bigoted" line -- most of the people that I know "of color" who have lived north of the Mason/Dixon line say that it is just as bigoted up there, if not worse). I'm a single mom -- being a single mom is tough, and being a single mom away from her child is even tougher. Do I think I would be best friends with Lyn and Karlyn? Probably not. Their personalities haven't endeared them to me, but who knows what they are like in and among people they feel comfortable with? Same with Dustin and Kandace. When they grow up and have to live a few years in the real world they will probably turn into pretty decent women...but at this time they are just two beautiful girls whose competitive spirit I admire, but all of us "know the type" and some of us have had negative experiences with them. One of my best friends was Miss Texas once upon a time so I don't have as negative stereotype as some on the beauty pageant set...because I know how crazy and goofy and truly beautiful inside and out my friend was. I guess I like the people who are there to race. That's why I like the model guys so far. They are there to race, and hopefully to learn how to read a map. Would have perhaps been better if they had learned BEFORE the race. The Chos might be good racers if they will start racing. Same with Rob and Kim. He just irritates me, but I can get past it.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:49 pm
But most of the time we are putting positivity out in the cosmos. If the negative ever outweighs the positive, that is when I will quit watching a show.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:51 pm
I guess I don't see that Dustin/Kandice were gloating about taking another car. It looked to me that they were patting themselves on the back at being sneaky enough to figure out that they didn't have to take a bad car. I didn't think they were happy just because someone else would be stuck with the bad car. And as I said before, I am not even convinced that anyone really was stuck with the bad car. The Chos were the only ones who drove a green car this time but they originally had a green car and never mentioned anything about getting a bad car this time.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 1:22 pm
Aside from generalities about their smiles (complaining about smiling?) and other similar stuff, the main thing mentioned so far was their not taking the damaged car. The fact that they were in first place meant that they had won the opportunity to have their choice of a car. They had no way of knowing if it would be to their advantage or not but to me it just seemed to be good game play. The fact that they found it amusing was more harmless than anything. I found L/K's happiness over another team's injury (which was a fairly nasty cut) and their physically pushing a local person to prevent them from helping D/K much more offensive than the D/K choosing a different car. Having said that, I look at it as an intense stressful game and I can see how the contestants can get carried away at points. Also, I think what some of us see as good game play, others see as poor sportsmanship (e.g. stepping ahead of other teams that are dawdling).
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Suzsmarmie
Member
07-26-2005
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 1:35 pm
Ok, I'll 'fess up. Maybe I'm the one everybody thinks called the "black angel" comment offensive. I did not call it offensive; I said to me, the comment was "another brick in the wall" with me as far as not liking the 'Bamas. With the other teams, it seems some weeks I like them and some weeks I don't...(i.e. weeks they "wait" for each other, R/K fighting, etc), but I just can't like the 'Bamas. Maybe their editing will take a more positive turn, and I'll at least be able to tolerate them if they win. Who knows or cares...lol?? That's the beauty of THIS board; we do respect others opinions and don't flame just because we don't agree. If what happens is what I think is going to happen, you guys will have the last laugh anyway...lol!

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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 1:36 pm
their doggy comments I'd like to know what comments these are? I cannot remember even one.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 1:40 pm
Them leaving the smashed car really was no biggie. The car was in perfectly fine running condition and did not hamper anyone's race. I think one advantage that is had when you come in ahead of the other racers is first choice in the available vehicles. IMO, that is very nitpicky to condemn them for that. Yet hardly anyone talks about the time the moms blew on by the couple that broke down and gloated about how they weren't gonna slow down to ask if they needed help...
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Nerovh
Member
06-11-2005
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 2:14 pm
I thought not taking the wrecked car was pretty smart. I thought it was funny, and I would have done the same thing if I had the opportunity. Maybe I wouldn't have thought it was so funny if it had actually caused another team any real trouble, but it didn't hurt anyone in any way. I just saw it as one of the perks of them coming in first.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 2:14 pm
I wasn't complaining about their smug smiles, just saying I don't find them likable.
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Mack
Member
07-23-2002
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 3:25 pm
I'm actually starting to think the BQ's could actually win this thing. It's not that I like or don't like them, it's the way they play the game. Nothing or at least virtually nothing seems to bother them. They rarely yell at each other. They rarely get angry about any situation. They normally freely admit they're lost or having trouble and get help. They're very supportive of one another, almost to the point of overkill. On the whole they work better together than any other couple. They may very well win.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 3:27 pm
I'm actually enjoying the BQ's. Girl Power!!! When have we ever seen an all-female team who's come in first place two times? And they're having a good time. They make snarky comments about other teams, but I don't think it's really mean-spirited and they know those other teams are making the same snarky comments about them. It's all just part of the game. I haven't seen any real meanness from them. They haven't canceled anybody's taxi cab yet (now THAT was mean!). I was really touched to hear that Rosie had done so much for Mary and Dave. A miner's life is terribly hard and dangerous. I'm glad she was able to do something nice for that family, purely out of the generosity of her heart--not because they somehow "deserved" it more than anyone else. I hope Dave finally gets to take his kids to Disneyland!
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 3:50 pm
To be honest, I can't remember the specific doggy comments I've heard by the BQs. But I can't remember the specific nasty things that Rob and Kimberly said to each other; or the specific nasty comments Peter made to Sarah, or the specific nasty things that Mary said to David. But I remember nasty comments as having been made. Sorry I can't be more specific, but I think my nasty radar is just as accurate when it comes to the BQs as anyone else. Just like my nasty radar has never gone off when the Cho brothers were on screen. I'll try to watch more closely next epi and see if I can actually quote something, but that's not how I typically remember things. What I remember is the general impression someone's behavior makes on me, not the specific words.
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Trueheart
Member
09-12-2006
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 4:20 pm
And just because some people criticize their bad behavior doesn't make them haters. LOL Ok...I'm thinking this was aimed at me because I made that JOKE about BQ haters. I'm sorry Ladytex if I offended you, but I was only trying to be a little funny (and definitely NOT succeeding) WOW since I have come back to this thread and read all of the new posts, seems the discussion has heated up a little! I totally missed the BQ's gloating over switching cars. In fact every time someone says that they don't like how much the BQ's gloat I'm thinking "When do they gloat?" IMO I was giggling along with their idea to switch cars. It was just a fun thing to do. I don't think it was mean-spirited at all. This example is just another reason that I respect them as racers. They always take advantage of any opportunity put before them. Gosh I love great competitors!!!! Jimmer, I loved your comment: Also, I think what some of us see as good game play, others see as poor sportsmanship (e.g. stepping ahead of other teams that are dawdling). You literally post everything I'm thinking but with better articulation and vocabulary!!! LOL
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 4:28 pm
I am totally rooting for them. Girl power all the way! I see competitors who are having a good time. If I could have taken a non smashed car, I would have and I would probably say as much as they did about it, that someone was gonna be ticked. I sure don't see anything nasty there....
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