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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 8:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Hmm, never heard that, but also as they say in the fine print, there are times when we don't see tasks that are actually done. Could be that the speed bump was boring or done while they were all bunching for operating hours of the circus. Either way you'd think Phil would have just said something.

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Michael and Kevin.. well too bad that Kevin didn't READ the clue when his dad said "read the clue". Bummer. But enjoyed them while they lasted.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 8:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
11/07/2010 Leg 7 St Petersberg, Russia
team123456789101112avgRBSBEPU
turn
FFprizesE
Nat(31)/Kat(35)
hair:long blonde/long dark)
Scottsdale AZ Santa Monica CA
doctors/friends
02070801010401     3.429N3
K3
   L5trip for 2 to Belize
trip for 2 to Costa Rica
$5000 each
 
Brook(27)/Claire(30)
hair:long blonde/brown)
San Diego CA Reno NV
co-hosts
04020603050202     3.429B4
C3
    10 day trip for 2 to Hawaii 
Nick(26)/Vicki(26)
hair: fauxhawk/coppery)
Henderson NV
boyfriend/girlfriend
100805060607NEL03     6.429N5
V2
L7?     
Gary(53)/Mallory(24)
hair:gray/short blonde)
Morganfield KY Lexington KY
father/daughter
06090202020604     4.429G4
M3
      
Jill(27)/Thomas(30)
hair:long blonde/dark wavy bangs)
Marina del Rey CA
dating couple
01050705030105     3.857J3
T4
L7L4  EXPRESS PASS1
trip for 2 to Sao Paulo
 
Chad(26)/Stephanie(23)
hair: dark/short blonde)
Ft Lauderdale FL
dating
08040307070507P06     5.714C4
S3
      
Michael(58)/Kevin(20)
hair: dark/darker)
Sugar Land TX
father/son
070309NEL04040306P
07 
     5.286M3
K4
L4    06
Katie(23)/Rachel(24)
hair:longer blonde/shorter blonde)
Rahway NJ Moorestown NJ
teamates
0502040808       5.400K4
R1
     05
Connor(22)/Jonathan(22)
hair:
Chesterton OH Cranford NJ
friends
03060109        4.750C3
J1
    $5000 each04
Andie(43)/Jenna(21)
hair: darker/dark)
Atlanta GA Athens GA
birth mom/daughter
0910          9.500A0
J2
     02
Ron(45)/Tony(42)
hair: hair/bald
short/tall
Los Angeles CA Tucson AZ
best friends
11           11.000R1
T0
     01


1 EXPRESS PASS allows a team to skip or abandon any task at any one time through the 8th leg of the race. Jill and Thomas won the EP when they came in first in Leg 1 and they used the EP in Leg 4 to proceed to pitstop without completing the last task.

NEL Non Elimination Leg.

Leg 3 Michael and Kevin came in last/ninth but will continue to Leg 4 where they will have to perform a Speed Bump

Leg 6 Nick and Vicki came in last/seventh but will continue to Leg 7 where they will have to perform a Speed Bump (which we never saw on the show)

P Leg 7 -

Michael and Kevin came in sixth but incurred TWO 30 min penalties. This moved them to seventh and they were out of the race.

Chad and Stephanie came in seveth, incurred ONE 30 minute penalty which allowed them to move to sixth place and stay in the race.

Kappy
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06-28-2002

Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 9:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
Great spoiling, Pippin! Thank you!

Great ryhming, Nero!

Naja
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06-28-2003

Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 9:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
It was so uncomfortable to watch the pairs when they didn't have enough money for the taxi drivers. Especially when the taxi drivers were grabbing at them. I had no idea how they would manage to get out of that situation, but it looks like it's not a violation to spend your own money if you run out of what TAR gave you?

Jmm
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08-15-2002

Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 9:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jmm a private message Print Post    
Naja, I think that is money from previous legs of the race that wasn't spent.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 9:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Oh yeah, I didn't think of that.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 10:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Or, the teams just didn't change enough money into rubles but had US cash left.

Yeah, ironic, wasn't it, that Kevin was moaning about how his Dad was going to lose it for them, and then it probably was Michael who caused them to lose with the two errors.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 10:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Jmm... I think you are probably right... But I had always thought that any "extra" monies were collected or not able to be used... Knowing that they can save up money really does put an added layer to this race... Maybe you should share a cab with someone so that you have a bit more on the next leg when it may be helpful to double a tip used to get a better seat on the plane...

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 11:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
The Amazing Race 17 - Elimination Station: Via Russia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kagH5wZ2Vz4

A summary for our Canadian friends. They're all going snorkling. Katie & Rachel seem to have mellowed out, even some smiles (1st time I've seen THAT since they lost). They say they've had to come to accept their fate that they're out of the race. Everyone bobbing in the water, with their orange lifejackets it looks like apple bobbing @ Halloween.

On the boat discussing who might come next. Back to K/R wanting Brooke/Claire because they don't want any women to win. Ron asks if they never want a woman team to win, they say maybe someday in the future but not THIS race. Andie says she & Jenna want a woman team to win because it would be such a good thing.

It's dark, shows boat docking and in come Kevin/Michael to the lvg rm. Kevin says he was upset because of the way they were eliminated, when they got to the mat Phil told them you're in 6th place but they had 60-min penalty. Michael said he was disappointed but relieved, he was smiling because they don't have to do this anymore.

Clip to a luxurious bedroom, Kevin & Michael talking about how he wanted to keep racing. Michael tells him to enjoy the place they are. Kevin keeps at it, we could have traveled Asia, we could have gone to China. Micheal gets stern "Kevin, Kevin please! I've been to China many times!" K. says we could have had a huge advantage. M. says you need to enjoy what we have.

They all go to a Mayan Temple walking the paths, beautiful scenery. Out overlooking the sea, M/K and K/R end up talking, start out grousing more about losing. Michael gives them all advice about they're young, consider this is a good opportunity to learn to how handle disappointment, because they will face more disappointments in life. K/R talking about how Michael is really laid back and wise and K/R seemed more accepting of what he said. (Well, we will see how long that lasts come next week, thinks Bisc!)

Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 11:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vsmart a private message Print Post    
Is only one person permitted to read the clue?

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, November 08, 2010 - 12:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Brook and Claire discuss the technique for their new career of plate spinning
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/video/?pid=VRu0QOLIv4FLjk0SDJVNWUgPnvEX_8qa&vs=Default&play=true

Teams must choose to either learn a Russian folksong on the accordion or figure out how to simultaneously spin ten plates!
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/video/?pid=hJh8o35BneUAQfIBAtMkqafEEZLPom_z&vs=Default&play=true

OK, I'm a total klutz. I cannot figure how the heck they managed the spinning of the plates. Here, B/C explain their technique - 'like lighting a candle & at an angle, like lighting a Menorah'.

Obviously, I've never lit a Menorah but can anyone shed some light (no pun intended) on the physics of what they're describing? Everyone was stunned at the speed they accomplished it.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, November 08, 2010 - 1:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Vsmart ~ Is only one person permitted to read the clue?

I believe they both can read the clue. But so often in teamwork they are reliant on one or the other, or else it becomes a case of micro-managing. Like, when my Mom and I traveled Europe, she read the train schedules and I oversaw the money & watching the exchange rates.

I think a LOT of Kevin's angst is because his Dad told him "be sure to read every word". Then he didn't and he can't blame his Dad for their loss. It wasn't due to his Dad being the oldest racer.

I'm truly going to miss Kevin and, especially, Michael. They showed true grace and how not to quit no matter how rough the race becomes.

Karen
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09-06-2004

Monday, November 08, 2010 - 1:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
Bisc, thanks for giving me the Elimination Station stuff. I don't always say thanks for it but I always mean to. :-) You mention Mayan temple... where is ES this season?

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, November 08, 2010 - 2:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Hi Karen, I figured you would enjoy but have your hands full these days.

They're in Cancun. This Mayan temple I believe they said was on the south side of the island or something like that. I tried to catch the name a couple of tries but they said it too fast. They really didn't show the temple itself, just the footpaths as everyone was walking & eating icecream.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, November 08, 2010 - 2:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Opps, correction. I'm rewatching the 1st ES again (Ron & Tony are such a joy, I just love those guys!) They said the name (too fast to catch) - when the boat picks them up - they say ES is at "an island just off the coast of Cancun, Mexico".

Karen
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09-06-2004

Monday, November 08, 2010 - 2:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
Cool, thanks. Thought maybe they were in Belize (one of the teams won a trip to Belize). Sounds like they're at Isla Mujeres (I googled).

Thanks again for the transcriptions.

Necie
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09-07-2006

Monday, November 08, 2010 - 2:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Necie a private message Print Post    
"It's like Guitar Hero." LOL

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, November 08, 2010 - 6:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I was sorry to see Michael and Kevin go, but really, they deserved it after such a rookie mistake. Every year, teams fall on their own swords by not reading the clue correctly. Brooke and Claire realized their mistake, by rereading the clue en route to the the next clue box, and then correcting their mistake.

I was wondering about the speed bump, too. But it makes sense if they didn't have to do it because there was a screw up that wasn't their fault.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Monday, November 08, 2010 - 6:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
So apparently someone went back and watched last week's episode and Phil never mentioned a Speed Bump to Nick/Vicki on the mat last week. Which also makes sense if they knew there was a judging screw up. (Even if they just edited that part out because they definitely would have known before it aired, if not when they actually arrived at the mat.)

I actually wonder if that's why it was a NEL since that seemed to come much earlier than normal as well. Either way, I still think the producers should have at least given us a quick "Due to an error in judging..." explanation. It's not like they owe it to us but they had to know people like us would notice the lack of a Speed Bump.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Monday, November 08, 2010 - 7:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Dang, they were my faves. Guess I'll root for the doctors now.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Monday, November 08, 2010 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
Raen, they might have had a disclaimer in the credit roll- that's what usually happens.

and RTFC Syndrome strikes again...

Bonbon, they've always been able to keep any money saved from what they get at the start for later legs- in fact, for the first few seasons (don't know whether this is true now) they had unseen access to an "emergency" fund- they could ask their cameraman once for US $200 if they needed it.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, November 08, 2010 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
I dont think they can share cabs since they have to have their crew with them - sharing a cab would put 8 people plus the driver in a cab...

and they used to have the last place team give them all their money -(and then they'd have to beg for money for the next leg - instead of being eliminated) so I thought they could save up money - being frugal, maybe they are given money for snack/food, and many chose not to spend it on that but to keep racing... ????

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, November 08, 2010 - 9:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
They've shared vans before but those are usually available around the airports and not in the streets.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, November 08, 2010 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
They can use the money provided in each leg however they see fit. They could buy souvenirs if they wanted, or not spend a dime.

Don't they have two production people along with the two racers? Even if there was just one (a camera person) in the vehicle, that would be 3 people per team plus the driver.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, November 08, 2010 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I've always heard that it was only 2 people - a sound guy and a camera operator, along with each couple, but usually I'm wrong...LOL!.

I wasn't really on the Michael/Kevin bandwagon, but they weren't my least favorite team either. Kevin's arrogance about his own ability to run the race really cost them this leg. He probably learned some good life lessons. I understand his frustration with his father but that's who he ran the Race with so he was going to have to deal one way or the other.

Still on the doctor bandwagon...those women are fierce and realize they are targets.

(Hopefully correct now.)