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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Monday, November 29, 2010 - 10:45 pm
LOL Jimmer. I would have loved that as well. And Phil wouldn't even have to stand there for 6 hours. He could have gone in, ate a bite, took a power nap, had a shower, and then come out the check them in. 
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Monday, November 29, 2010 - 11:07 pm
It's reality TV! They could have checked them in whenever and editted. How would we know?
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 12:10 am
Kona, Currently (according to the wiki): Speed bump penalty = 4 hours Roadblock penalty = 4 hours Detour penalty = 6 hours (as you have two chances to get it right)
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 12:28 am
I think the real issue is, as someone said above, the fact that Phil has to be moving to the next destination, hopefully aheaed of the teams. Depending on how far behind they were, and were the next leg is, he couldn't wait around too long.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 1:59 am
They haven't really been consistent in when to assess penalties for task failures anyway. From Wikipedia: TAR 1 Detour (transportation in Thailand): Nancy/Emily took the 24-hr penalty at the end of the leg, which eliminated them. TAR 5 Roadblock (scarab in Egypt): Lance/Marshall were eliminated by Phil at the Roadblock. TAR 6 Roadblock (locks in China): Hayden/Aaron took the 4-hr penalty at the end of the leg, which eliminated them. TAR 7 Roadblock (meat in Argentina): The 4-hr penalty was assessed at the Roadblock, starting when the next team arrived (weird). TAR 10 Roadblock (flaming arrow in Mongolia): Jamie/Kellie took the 4-hr penalty at the end of the leg, which eliminated them. TAR 14 (using personal belongings as payment): Mark/Michael had two 2-hr penalties, some of which was taken at the end of the leg, the rest at the start of the next leg TAR 15 regular task (tourists in Japan): Tiffany/Michelle took their 2-hr penalty at the start of the next leg TAR 15 Detour (games in the Netherlands): Tiffany/Michelle took the 24-hr penalty at the Detour site and were eliminated there. TAR 15 Roadblock (decoding in the Czech Republic): Flight Time and Big Easy took the 4-hr penalty at the Roadblock site. They continued to the next route marker and were told to go straight to the Pit Stop, where they were eliminated. TAR Asia also had a number of Roadblock penalties assessed in different ways. Maybe they have written rules that cover how the penalty is applied depending on where in the leg the task occurs, whether it's NEL, etc., but it's more likely that they just specify that it's the producers' decision.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 8:10 am
As stated above, I think it depends on where the OTHER racers are. If there are others out there, the penalty applies when those racers check in. If there aren't other racers to check in, then the penalty is applied immediately and the racers are eliminated.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 10:08 am
That doesn't seem to explain the few cases where the penalties were applied at the task site instead of the Pit Stop.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 10:48 am
TAR 7 Roadblock (meat in Argentina): The 4-hr penalty was assessed at the Roadblock, starting when the next team arrived (weird). Because Rob and Amber first had to talk the next team coming in to take a four-hour penalty. Once he got the next team to agree to it, Rob started his penalty.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 11:31 am
That penalty with Rob and Amber, I think they had to scramble to see how it worked on the fly, as no one had really used a penalty in that way before. As much as you spell out the details in the rule book, when someone uses it for the first time there's often some clarifying of the rules required afterwards, in light of the extra info gained from the first use. Overall the penalties seem to have evolved into something more consistent over the last few races. And they've been used more.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 11:46 am
Isn't the only reason to wait out a time penalty is when there are still other teams that might pass them. No other teams were still in play, ergo, no reason to wait.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 12:00 pm
Because Rob and Amber first had to talk the next team coming in to take a four-hour penalty. Once he got the next team to agree to it, Rob started his penalty. No, what actually happened was that Rob decided to quit first. When Ray/Deana arrived and Rob/Amber's penalty started, Rob correctly figured out that they needed to convince Deana to quit. She eventually did quit, which guaranteed that Rob/Amber would get to leave first because Ray/Deana's penalty wouldn't start until the next team arrived. Ray/Deana, as well as Gretchen/Meredith, started their 4-hr penalties when Susan/Patrick arrived. They didn't wait for Patrick to quit before deciding to take their penalties. In fact, Patrick did finish the Roadblock (although it took him longer than four hours).
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 12:50 pm
That penalty with Rob and Amber, I think they had to scramble to see how it worked on the fly, as no one had really used a penalty in that way before. Could be. I think that meat Roadblock was the only time we've ever seen teams quit the Roadblock when they weren't in last place (at least in TAR USA). It would be interesting to know whether the "wait for the next team" rule is still valid. That rule probably doesn't apply for Detour penalties because the "next team" could be doing the other Detour task.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 8:04 pm
I think it is still a valid trick and actually, quitting the last task could be a valid trick if the team was way ahead of others or, as happened this time, if it is NEL. And had they thought of it purposely, the sooner they quit, the better. But it is highly risky.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 10:12 pm
Wouldn't it also depend (and I don't remember where in the order of that leg of the race the Rob/Amber penalty happened) on whether there were other tasks to be accomplished after the task they quit?
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, December 03, 2010 - 2:19 pm
Raenstorm stated: Gonna be honest... Every time I typed Nick tonight, I almost typed something else instead. Every. Time. ROFL! Who could blame you. He certainly acted badly. I loved Brooke @ the road block where they had to find the fake food. That gal has enough personality for 5 people. She'd be hard to take 24/7, but she certainly was entertaining in this episode, lol. I also hope Vicki/Nick don't make it past next week, as quitting is quitting. I didn't even realize you could quit a task and stay in the game until I came here and saw all the posts. Interesting.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, December 03, 2010 - 3:12 pm
While some people may find Brooke annoying, I like her. I'm going to give both her and Claire props for not being ugly Americans. They appreciate wherever they travel and they have hugged and kissed their way around the world. I wish more teams could be like them.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Friday, December 03, 2010 - 3:36 pm
Lexie, I agree with you! I imagine if you had to live with that energy day after day, it might be exhausting, but on this show, it's a great asset!
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, December 03, 2010 - 5:40 pm
Kar, I agree on a daily basis it could be exhausting, but on this show it is very refreshing. They are truly taking in their experience and enjoying it.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, December 03, 2010 - 8:39 pm
My favorite racers are always those who realize what an amazing gift they are receiving by being able to travel to all these interesting places and interact with the wonderful people who live there! If I could pass the physical, my BFF and I would kick some major bu##, and be the first "old people" to get very far in the race!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, December 03, 2010 - 9:22 pm
TNT, last time I saw you, you were far healthier than many on the race. I like how Nat and Kat, especially, seem to appreciate their surroundings and not only when they seem to be ahead. Brrok is a bit over the top and she needs to give up ragging on Claire about running.. if they need to sprint maybe she should just take both packs for that time. But she is far less annoying to me than Mallory.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, December 03, 2010 - 9:25 pm
Oh I do think Brook had a super time at the karaoke and the audience loved that,
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Gldnlvr
Member
08-03-2007
| Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 2:27 pm
I also really enjoy Brooke and Claire. I love Brooke's energy (wish I had some of that) and how outgoing and kind they have been. I also LOVE the fact that they have hugged and kissed someone at each stop!! Brooke was really funny dancing at the karaoke. Does anyone know which shopping channel they work on? I frequent QVC and don't recognize them. I was disappointed that Nick and Vicky weren't eliminated. I was hoping that she would have finished the task while he was still sleeping on the boat. I hate the way he talks down to her. She is really a pretty girl - I'd love to see her without all the tats and piercings.
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