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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 4:22 am
Why should Luke be applauded and not Zev/Justin Nat/Herb ? All three had a very difficult and frustrating time. Yes, that 'sign in' at the town hall was very funny.
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 6:07 am
i always have disliked how Luke gives up way too easily on many tasks and lets that frustration get to him... and he does need to mature in that way (but way too many people need to learn not to let frustration/stress get to you) ... that being said, I did not see that as the case last night - he did let the frustration get to him to the point of tears BUT his mother did not yell at him like other partners have in the past and just encouraged him to keep going AND as much as he wanted to stop, he said he would keep going, that he could do it - and he did - they didnt just stop - they finished the task and kept going even knowing they were likely last - so in this case, i do not see any reason why Luke should be criticized for having a breakdown - if he was that tired and frustrated, i understand the tears - and the fact that he didnt just stop is a good thing.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 6:29 am
Thank you Kitt and Legalboxer. I know very few people that could take the criticism thrown out here. but you definitely have the right to your opinion
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 6:41 am
I like to think I'm a sensitive guy (seriously). But I can't begin to tell you what I think most guys would think watching Luke's performance. Ouch! Compare Luke's performance in this task to the woman (I'm sorry I forget her name) who pushed over and pulled apart dozens of giant haybales for hours and hours until she was absolutely exhausted. There was no warm, well lit room with encouraging kind people and cups of tea. Her task was physically exhausting, it was outdoors, it was pitch dark and cold and Phil finally stopped her. Now that was a tough task. I do applaud the Indian people and the GT's for giving Luke all the positive encouragement.
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Maris
Member
03-27-2002
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 6:50 am
It was Lena Jimmer.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 7:03 am
Sorta shocked that the first 4 teams eliminated were all from TAR 14..luck of the draw I guess, but unusual. I didn't have a problem with the product placement- anything that helps the show....which was officially picked up for Race XIX over the weekend. And BTW, if TAR is like most game/reality shows, Gary/Mallory probably haven't gotten their million rupee prize until today, after the show aired, so according to currency trading site oanda.com, the million rupees is worth $21,836.40 US as of today.
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Sportsfan
Member
09-03-2007
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 7:05 am
The show was very emotional for me last night. While M/L were not my fav team, I teared up watching the tea challenge, made me call my bestie to discuss. She started out feeling the way a lot of you here did but I told her it wasn't fair for us to decide something like that without us not having walked in his shoes. I loved that the Indian people encouraged and clapped for Luke and I LOVE the Globetrotters!
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 7:16 am
Glad M/L are out of the race. Have never cared for them. They are not fun to watch. But I do think that signing is one of the most beautiful forms of language on the earth.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 7:22 am
Were they supposed to drink the entire cup of tea at the RB? Tea tasters normally do the same thing as wine tasters- take a sip, swirl it around in their mouths to get the flavor, and then spit it out...
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:00 am
I"m a little shocked to read that somehow his tears should be regarded differently because he is a man. Are we not yet over that tired stereotype? As a mom with a fairly sensitive son, who cries easily, it breaks my heart to see the kinds of things posted here. And this after watching so many college age young men (not much younger than Luke) cry over the past few days when they lost a basketball game.... I was proud of Luke for finishing. He had terrible luck, and the others were luckier. Only a few did the task as it was meant, to remember the tea they tasted and to smell the mango/papaya. None of them got the hint of the offering they made. Most of them just got lucky. And Margie did exactly right, patiently encourage her exhausted and brokenhearted son to continue. I think Luke cried because he was sick (from vomiting), exhausted and he had more emotionally invested in the race. And I thought that he hung in there and finished was admirable and wonderful. I'd far rather see him cry, then see them throwing and breaking things, or screaming at their partners, or the locals, or quitting.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:03 am
Karuuna...I agree....and couldn't have said it better myself. One other thought I had was as a deaf man, he also isn't able to hear the encouragement and cheering that hearing people can hear.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:09 am
I haven't always liked Margie in this race, but I really liked her as a mom last night. I thought she was great with Luke. Maybe he has some maturing to do, but that isn't something anyone can make him do. He has to do it on his own as he can. I know this isn't the popular opinion, but I really liked Mallory even more last night. She is so full of enthusiasm.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:10 am
Oh Happy Mom...ME TOO!!!! I just love how she is so positive and enthusiastic about everything!!!!
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:12 am
I think they must have had to drink the whole cup so the guy could turn it up and look at the number on the bottom. Otherwise I'm sure the task would have been a lot easier for several of them. Just out of curiosity, how would people be reacting if it had been Zev or Nate crying about how hard the challenge was? Or Mallory, if she had been unlucky and still not found the right tea? I'm sure some of them have had some rough times in their lives, none of us know what they have gone through, either. I don't feel like any of them would have a lot of defenders if they had been the ones to act like that. I felt bad for Luke, but I don't enjoy watching ANY contestant that acts that way during a task. It's "The Amazing Race". You should know going in that things are gonna get rough. And as Jimmer pointed out, that tea challenge was not nearly as bad as some have been.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:13 am
I can't remember what the previews showed...can someone refresh my memory?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:18 am
I personally don't care if they cry while they persevere. I would have felt badly for anyone who cried. I choose to only be offended when they are disrespectful to others, or throw tantrums, or quit too easily.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:25 am
Honestly, Zev's disability would have been more of a factor for that task than Luke's. He's autistic! And only three years older than Luke. I'm betting if Luke had gone to Galludet he would have had to develop a tougher exterior or more of a sense of humor by now. I don't think Amazing Race is set up for the overly sensitive. There is NOTHING wrong with tears but if you go on the race you cannot keep giving up on tasks and Luke tends to let his frustration slow him down. I think Zev and Flight Time were quite frustrated as well but they spend less time turning to their partner to say they couldn't do it. There have been SO many worse challenges than that. And it doesn't seem like they were far behind the Globetrotters since they were at the same task and seemed to leave almost at the same time and maybe arrived at the mat just behind them, so it wasn't one of those horrible situations where a team is far behind and tempted to give up. And of course this isn't the first time Luke has reacted in this way.. it is all too common. And this isn't his first Amazing Race. Scooter, I'm blanking on the preview!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:28 am
First, as I have stated previously, I have no problem with the idea of men crying. As Kar mentioned, we see crying on a regular basis with male athletes who have fallen short of their goal. Crying in no way implies lack of courage or toughness or diminishes a person in any way. Part of the issue for me is that Luke appears to get frustrated and give up relatively early in a task. Even his Mom mentioned that about him. As a result, I see more of a young man having a tantrum when things don't immediately go his way rather than the crying.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:29 am
I think there is something to do with manure or fertilizer.. Jen saying "The crap you do for a million dollars". Ah they are "mudding" a wall or hut with what looks like manure. And Zev doesn't like the place because of all the noise (and probably cars and people). That's in a short preview. And the next show is in TWO weeks.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:32 am
Is anyone outraged over Zev smashing the teacup in his frustration?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:32 am
I don't know, vomiting again and again, which they apparently didn't show, is pretty rough. People have different tolerances for that. We don't know how far they were behind the GTs. TAR *often* manipulates that ending to make the TV show more exciting. And we don't know how upset Zev got, only what they showed. We did see Zev throw quite a few tantrums (and almost quit?) in the show at the zodiac challenge, didn't we? They tend to feature the frustration of the last place team or teams (like Zev and the goths when they were running at the end; or the redheads when they were). I don't care if Luke does react this way, the important thing is that he got thru it. I do know that different people all have their own journeys and we don't know what Luke's personal life has been like. Ultimately he persevered, and to me, that's character, and something he can be proud of.
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:34 am
You know, when things are going wrong and my mom is around, I cry a lot easier than if she's not there. I wonder if that is the case with Luke. Not saying that's bad, just saying sometimes our mothers can affect us differently than maybe a friend or significant other. Even though I did not enjoy Luke during the tea task, I do think Margie did a great job helping him get himself together.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:36 am
Nerovh, that's a very good point. Recently when my 16 year old had his wallet stolen, he didn't cry until he told me. And I did just what Margie did, talked him thru it. If he hadn't been on the phone, I would have put my arms around him too.
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Sean
Member
02-26-2011
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:44 am
Sorry folks, in my haste to pack for Las Vegas, I forgot to post the link to my recap here last night. http://sfurfaro.blogspot.com/2011/03/amazing-race-recap-to-tea-or-not-to-tea.html Heads Up - I'm excessively harsh on Luke. That may have been discussed on the boards already, but be aware...I'm not a fan, and I relished last night's episode.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:45 am
Outraged over a guy smashing a teacup? No. It wasn't a nice thing for him to do but I wouldn't describe it as outrageous. With respect to Luke, I could understand him getting frustrated and upset by the end but he seemed frustrated and upset almost as soon as he started this task (and practically every task he has done). It's hard for me to cheer for someone who acts that way. I do admire him for persevering to the end of the tea challenge (which is more than the GT's did last time). ETA: Oh and count me as a Mallory fan as well. Someone who is enjoying the experience and having fun. Shocking.
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