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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 2:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Well I think Crystal just blew it out of the water. Lee.. not at all. (But agree his clips at the end were better than the performances

And I'm sure going to miss Simon so I hope his new show starts really soon and does well.

Can't wait to order Crystal's album!!

And I'm glad I snagged, rather impulsively, a ticket for the tour when it hits Anaheim.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 2:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I'm puzzled.. if the radio isn't giving us more diversity, why is Lee loved for being flawed and like what the radio is giving us?

Not that I listen to the radio, I play my own CDs as I drive around and no one radio station could begin to cover that spectrum.

But I suppose Lee may well win, but just sitting here listening, hard for me to fathom.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 5:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Crystal totally outsang Lee last night. By about 10 miles. Unfortunately, while I think she deserves to win, I still think Lee will win. Same thing as last year.

Lee still bores me to tears. I didn't "feel" any of his performances last night, and I thought he just stood there like a lump of wood during all three of his critiques.

I think Crystal has a unique voice. And yes, doing a Janis Joplin song was a throwaway, but it suits her voice perfectly. And we haven't had anyone who's come close to Janis since, well, since Janis.

I hope I'm wrong and I hope Crystal wins. But I suspect she won't. Then again, she wouldn't be shackled by the Idol contract if she doesn't and could off and be like Adam, and do her own thing. I think Adam has still outsold Kris what's his name (the whitebread boring guy from last season).

I will say this... from all that I've heard, everyone agrees that Crystal performed and sang the best, and that she's been most consistent thru the season. So if she doesn't win, I'm probably gonna be done with Idol. It's apparent that milquetoast singers are going to prevail on this show, and that apparently is not the type of music I prefer to listen to.

Dke1212
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07-13-2005

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dke1212 a private message Print Post    
First time my two favorites have made it to the end. I've liked both of them from the beginning. I agree Crystal was better last night, but Lee has been better the last few weeks.

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 8:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
DS actually went to bed last night sobbing (sobbing!) because Simon is leaving the show after tonight. He was pretty tired and had had an emotional day, but sobbing over Simon leaving? He also cried for Tim Urban and Alex Lambert.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I prefer Lee's voice to Crystals.

They both can sing well, but I would buy Lee's album before Crystal's because of the type of music she will make. I rather hear rock then folk. JMO

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 9:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I don't think people are voting on just tonight's performance. I think they are voting on who they liked best between the two of them, through the whole season.

As they should!

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I liked Lee's first two songs better than Crystal's first two but then Crystal blew it out of the water with her last song.

I want Lee to win but will be happy either way.

Trini
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07-06-2004

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trini a private message Print Post    
Though I enjoyed Crystal all season last night she seemed cocked sure which is a contrast to the humble side she showed all season. I think she too was a little nervous, her voice sharp with an edge, pierced and was a little to loud. (Simon's last night he had to be nice.)
Her third song was her best last night, she seemed nervous and rushed during her first two she did not look seem at ease in her shoes, why did she play/reach her hand out to the crowd it did not work...

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Then again, she wouldn't be shackled by the Idol contract

Again, 19M has dibs on all the Idol finalists. All the finalists are equally shackled.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
But don't the second place winners have more creative control over what is produced? And don't have to sing the Idol song ever again?

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 11:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Prisoner, if I understand it correctly 19M has first dibs on all finalists. But really own the winner, and have more creative control over them. I think those that don't win are in a far better position to say "this is the type album I plan to do, is 19M interested" versus being TOLD what they will do. At least in past years that is how it played out, so I assume there is at least some truth in it.IE look at the create control/decision Chris Daughtry was able to make in his own career. I don't think if he won he'd be where he is now.

I think this is shaping up to really cost the show some credibility. I don't think anyone in the world, except maybe Lee's immediate family, believe that Lee won the night. And if you look at overall performance I'd say they are pretty equal, with an edge to Crystal. She was in the front of the pack 3/4 of the season, with Lee having a few killer weeks in the end, while she stumbled a bit. Clearly all the judges, and viewers, strongly gave the night to Crystal.

So all that said, based on all the info we have, I fully expect a Lee win tonight. So how does a franchise like Idol justify someone who fell apart when the pressure was on, who was totally off key most of the night versus someone who slayed it, winning the Idol title?

Between that and Simon Cowell leaving, I say this franchise is about to take two huge credibility hits in the very near future. But ultimately I think all will work out for the contestants. The Idol franchise I'm less certain about at this point.

Ilovethecoach
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08-01-2006

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ilovethecoach a private message Print Post    
I just finished watching it on the DVR and I have tears in my eyes after Crystal's final performance. I like both Crystal and Lee, but after last night she is a star. A fine farewell to Simon.

Bicbicz911
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08-20-2005

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 11:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bicbicz911 a private message Print Post    
Ah well, I did my best for Crystal. I voted consistently for hours, while I was watching TV. DH participated less enthusiastically, I had to keep reminding him to dial! LOL.

I still believe Lee will win, and I am pretty sure this season is it for me. It's not AI without Simon, no matter how many ways you try to look at it. It becomes just another reality show.

Bowersox for the win! (I always did root for the underdog.)

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
The top two are guaranteed contracts with 19M. the winner is guaranteed more money per album than the runner-up (minimum amount, sales would increase that, I assume). The rest of the finalists are on a "first dibs" basis. This all came out when some of the finalists were under 18, and the contract had to be reviewed by someone else.

I highly doubt, since both the finalist and runner-up get contracts, that the runner-up has any more creative control than the winner (with the exception of the traditionally gawdawful single), but I don't recall reading anything specific about that. If anyone can find a citation to refute that, I'd love to read it. They are both new recording artists, and as such, would have limited creative control, anyway, no? Besides, it doesn't make sense that the runner-up would have more creative control. They lost, after all, so they should require more "shaping." I'm not saying they have less; I just don't think, considering how the finalists sign their life away, that 19M is going to give up any control to someone who came in second.

I don't think Crystal slayed it. I found her first two songs weak. I think Lee suffered *greatly* with that blasted choir. I thought lee grew much more than Crystal throughout this season, and for that reason I'm interested in seeing what he'll do next. Crystal was already at her peak, so I already know what to expect from her. I just wish people would realize taste is highly subjective, and not assume everyone thinks the same way they do.

Sia
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03-10-2002

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sia a private message Print Post    
I've loved Crystal since the tryouts. I hope she wins; she deserves it. Lee's a fine singer, but Crystal just delivers a better performance before a live audience, for certain.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Crystal butchered one of my favorite songs, IMO.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 1:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
$100 says next year is the last year of American Idol (10 seasons) and with no simon it will be cancelled.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I'm so excited. Fantasia boards are saying Tasia is singing tonight with Kelly. That's either going to be great....or it's going to be a screamfest. Either way, good entertainment.

ETA: Apparently singing "Together We Are One"

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
$100 says next year is the last year of American Idol (10 seasons) and with no simon it will be cancelled.

Ryan almost said as much when Ryan said, "we wouldn't be here without you", to Simon last night.

Maineiac
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08-24-2009

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maineiac a private message Print Post    
Lurk,with a hug;) I have to disagree with you.:-)
I don't think Crystal slayed it.

After rewatching the show and thinking about it a little, I have some thoughts.

If the night HAS to be given to someone then yes Crystal had the momentum. Just like Lee had it last week. So I don't see how anyone can say that one is a better singer or deserves to win over the other, unless they were to get up there and sing the same song.
The are both good but with totally different styles.

The producers gave Crystal the advantage going into last night. She has been compared to Janus Joplin all season and they gave her Black Velvet. And her last song fit her voice and style perfectly.
Lee gets REM and U2? Really??? I would have loved to hear him sing Dave Mathews, Kings Of Leon or Nichelback, even Rob Thomas would have been better for Lee.

I have to wonder if Lee could feel that the night was slanted towards Crystal and that's why he seemed off. Just a thought.

With that said, after watching a second time, I didn't think he did a bad job.

To be honest, if I had to choose between Lee or Crystal's "single" to listen to on the radio, it would be Lee's hands down. It's a preference in music style. Nothing against her, I just didn't care for the song, at least her version anyway.

I think Lee has a bigger fan base that prefere's his style of music. That is why they keep saying he is marketable and that they can hear him on the radio. They said that to him many times. I don't remember the judges ever telling Crystal they could hear her on the radio. Maybe I missed it?

If Crystal were to put out a CD that is similar to Melissa Etheridge, I would buy it in a heart beat. But I'm not crazy about her folksy side.

I love Lee for the fact that he consistantly improved every week and did something different with every song he sang.

They are both good singers and I hope they have great careers.

Sorry about the rambling.:-)

Maineiac
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08-24-2009

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 2:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maineiac a private message Print Post    
Tishala, which Kelly?
Pickler or Clarkson?

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 2:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
I think Crystal is right between Jewel and Joplin, kind of a mixture. I know the dreads are 'who she is' but they are so hideous, IMO. The black dress was a hot mess on her. Crystal, honey, crest white strips only cost $20.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 2:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Oh sorry Maine...Ms Clarkson. I'd forgotten Ms Pickler existed.

Maineiac
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08-24-2009

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 2:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maineiac a private message Print Post    
Thanks Tishala.
I don't know why I remembered Kellie Pickler.:-)

I'm excited to see Kelly C. I didn't know she would be there.

Lazylu
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04-09-2010

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lazylu a private message Print Post    
Bonbonlover, What I posted about voting on the season not just last night was a reply to someone who said they were disappointed that Dial Idol had Lee so much ahead because Crystal was so much better last night.

And, I agree they should vote on the whole season not just one night for the final.}

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 3:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I was just underscoring your thoughts!!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I was the person who said that and I agree that it should be over the entire season. I was just a bit surprised as Dial Idol had shown Crystal ahead at the final four. I assumed that some fans switched to Lee as a result of his stronger performance in the final three and might switch back to Crystal given her stronger performance in the final two.

Lazylu
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04-09-2010

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lazylu a private message Print Post    
Bon, Everything is cool, I just wanted to clear up why I posted it. I am new and don't want people to think I am too weird.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 3:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Lee inherited a lot of Casey's "fraus." Hate to say, but the cougers and the teen girls are calling the shots now. They would have to have a "girls-only season at this point for a girl to actually win.

(Unless Crystal actually wins tonight, in which case I'll have to take that back.)

Also, something fun. Cute snippet of phone vid that Andrew likes to take: boys chillin

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 4:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Geez, it's sounding like most of IdolNation is showing up tonight. Wonder exactly what past contestants will be there. I know we have Taylor Hicks, Ruban Studdard and Elliot Yamin for sure. (And Pants on the Ground man since there's a pic of Taylor w/him outside the studios LOL). I also read they booted Adam Lambert for not showing up at rehearsal. Wonder why he didn't and what's up w/that? Well tonight is sounding like a better show than last night to me!!!

And Mainie, that's what makes the word go round. We watched the same show, we saw 2 totally different things LOLOL.

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
Read on another site that Adam has been sick and was also busy with rehearsals for his own tour. He was never asked to be a part of the finale. The stories of him not showing up for rehearsal are total BS.

Go hear to read Adam's own tweets on the subject:

http://oooochild.blog.com/2010/05/27/adam-lamberts-tweeted-reply/