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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 8:09 pm
llkoolaid... I'm hanging out on that island with you. I think Crystal is a good singer... but very limited. And I find her to be smug. <ducking>
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Lazylu
Member
04-09-2010
| Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 8:19 pm
llkoolaid, I am on the island with you and I agree with bonbonlover too
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 8:43 pm
I know no one will believe me, but it's Casey's guitar playing that first got my attention. I thought he was forgettable until I saw and heard Jealous Guy. I don't think he's the best singer, but there is no denying he has musical talent. None of them have great singing chops this year. Crystal has moments but I think her voice quivers a lot and could use vocal training. Basically it's a low talent, weak season, so may as well sit back and enjoy the pretty (Casey).
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 8:51 pm
I like your post, Nyheat! I agree with Lurk, regarding Kris from last season-nice, cute guy that can sing but just not a stand out star. I like him but I think he's a little boring.
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Aurora
Member
11-24-2006
| Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 8:54 pm
Last night was the first time I voted all season. I started voting for Casey five minutes before the hour. The lines were already open. I hit redial until half after the hour and only got a busy signal once during that time. Did they add more lines this season? I threw in some phone votes for Lee too during that time just to see if I'd get through. Got through for him each time too. I voted for Casey because I thought Mike should go before he did. I didn't agree with him saved and wanted him gone. So now I really don't care who wins this thing. Just glad Mike left. I really didn't like the chest thumping when they used the save.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 1:15 am
I think it was Mike's time to go. I've been voting for Crystal the last couple of weeks. As for Casey.. it isn't American Guitar Player.. not that it matters I guess.
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Sia
Member
03-10-2002
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 5:19 am
Still enjoying this season of AI very much. If winning the competition is based largely on audience popularity, consider this: at least Mike got a chance to be in the race a lot longer because the judges used their only "save" on him a few weeks back. This has been good for Big Mike because he certainly got several weeks' more exposure--and the chance to show us what a beautiful singer he is. I've said this before: by forcing the kids to choose songs from a certain genre, era or by a certain artist, it doesn't allow them to showcase the kind of singer they are or want to be. Why do the judges send such mixed messages this way? It makes no sense: "We know you're not a country singer and that kind of music wouldn't showcase your voice best--and we know you wouldn't put anything like this on your album, but won't you please sing us a Dolly Parton song?" I'm just sayin'.
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Jandy
Member
07-08-2005
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 7:20 am
Mike was never my favorite. I love Crystal, though. Are people comparing Lee to "The Boss"?
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 7:43 am
Apparently, Idol is paying attention to how much the contestants are hiding behind guitars this season (if the questions on the survey were any indication). Prisoner you totally missed my point. Last season it was mainstream vs non-mainstream. This season, it's the same thing. Crystal may be more mainstream than Adam was but she's pierced, tatted, and dreaded. In middle America, Crystal would not be considered mainstream but Lee would. In middle America, Adam would not be considered mainstream, but Kris would. That's why I've said from the beginning I would love to see Crystal win but I didn't think she would. I though I'd see Lee and Crystal in F2 and Lee would win. Mainstream all over again. Sia, a really good "artist" would be able to take a Dolly Parton song and turn it into a rock song. Previous contestants have taken songs that were not in the genre they were "known" for and have turned the songs around. It's one reason that some of us looked forward to hearing Adam every week... he could take songs that were definitely not his element and yet sing them as if they were.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 7:45 am
I didn't miss your point. I just don't agree with it. I find Crystal to be much more mainstream than Adam ever was or will be. She is very Melissa Etheridge/Bonnie Raitt in a contemporary package. Adam, on the other hand, was very 80's glam band. who screamed a lot. As for her looks, I think you are selling middle America short. I still say Adam's shortcoming was not his "non-mainstream-ness." I found his performances to be dishonest. Considering the interviews I heard/read with him after, where he said his performances were all a game and strategy to him, I stand by that opinion.
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 8:01 am
My problem is that they are forcing them into less interesting, more generic boxes than what they came in. Siobhan was into a lot of interesting music and they wrecked that girl. She was doing Pink Floyd Great Gig in the Sky vocals. Sounds cool as hell, let's hear that. By the end she lost her mojo completely. Cystal loves India.Arie. Well let's hear more of that. Mike was into electronica. Cool--bring it on. Music is evolving into hybrid genres continually and the producers/judges are a step behind IMO. They want hit factories, not artists.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 8:12 am
I hate the theme nights. Mike/Siobhan were not going to be an elvis artist or country artist, etc. Give them a time period ie 70's, 80's and let them pick the genre and artist. Let us vote on the artist they could be, not the little boxes they were forced into on this show. No wonder why many of us find these kids boring. It's not who they are nor who they aspire to be. And yes, that's what I put on the survey.
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Dke1212
Member
07-13-2005
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 8:17 am
I've liked Crystal from beginning...Lee too. I guess I'm considered middle America. I think the whole middle America analogy is off. There are people all over who will like or dislike for lots of reasons. I don't know if location is necessarily one of them.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 8:23 am
I sort of agree with both of you, Nyheat and Lady, but when there is a theme night and the contestant breaks out of that box, that's what makes me sit up and take notice. So I'm torn on the "theme box." What does annoy me is the judges contradictory "make your own" vs. "I couldn't recognize the song" comments.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 8:34 am
Agreed, Prisoner, there was a kid at the beginning of the season that took every song he did and changed it up and made it his. He got blasted by the judges that they didn't recognize the songs and changed them too much and apparently America didn't like it either. I enjoyed him because I watched to see what he was gonna do with the next song he got ... shrug.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 8:36 am
"Middle America" does not refer to the people who live in landlocked states. It can also refer to "moderate middle class America." Prisoner, I did say that Crystal may be more mainstream than Adam. I think your distaste for Adam is skewing your reading of my words. I don't think you've gotten my point. So let's agree to disagree.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 8:42 am
Can you imagine AI letting Crystal sing stuff like India.Arie? They barely let R&B on the show, let alone neo-soul....stuff like that isn't going to happen even though it should. The performers have gotten much more proscribed in recent years--little outside the pop/rock stuff--and I don't think it's good for the show. The performers become too homogeneous and many segments of the audience have tuned out because of it; my friends and I used to watch every Tuesday and talk about it that night and the next day, but we never do that now. By and large, they no longer sing the kind of stuff we want to hear.
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 9:00 am
As far as theme nights, I always liked when they got to choose a song from the year they were born, etc.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 9:40 am
1. I don't have any distaste for Adam. I don't like his singing. Different things. 2. I do get your point, Costa. I just don't agree with it. I'm allowed not to agree with you, right?
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 10:04 am
I said let's agree to disagree.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 10:48 am
I am wondering where the "Big Mike" votes will go. I like Crystal, but my parents are turned off by the piercings, dreadlocks, etc., so I can see the point about some people being turned off by her image. I can't believe the final three has turned out this way - three somewhat introverted people who do not have powerhouse voices. Wow.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 11:09 am
Personally, I think there is a lot more influence on song choice than anyone with the show lets on. You get a list of potential songs. AI controls so much about the show, I can't imagine that no one is talking to them about possible choices. Ultimately, the contestant probably selects the song. But, I suspect their is some discussion and influence occurring prior to saying "this is the song I'm going to sing this week". JMO.... such as it is. I suspect Casey or Lee will split Big Mike's votes. Now, if Casey had gone, I would have thought Lee would benefit. Let's have a show where Casey sings country (that's where I think he would shine), Lee sings the Boss and Crystal sings Janis.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 11:30 am
I see Casey as more of a Southern Rock type of artist, which has lots of roots in country. Lynard Skinner type of stuff. In some ways he reminds me a lot of Bo Bice (although much prettier). I think Casey can have quite a nice career but I think he will have to be marketed properly. And, although AI isn't a guitar playing contest, I think his mad skills on guitar will serve him well. I don't see him winning though. I still think Crystal is the best all-around performer this season...has been from the beginning. I realize Lee is probably the best singer at this point but for me he just fades into the woodwork. He reminds me a little too much of Kris Allen. But hey, Kris won, so what do I know?
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 12:28 pm
^mad skillz lol. That just struck me as funny. 
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 1:13 pm
I like Lee best. In full disclosure I have to confess my daughter and he are acquaintances. But for my taste I like him best. I like all three (I actually appreciated most all the contestants voices) but there is nothing unique about any of them. I've said it before you can see this level of talent all over America on the weekends at local clubs. When Simon says someone sounds like a lounge singer I want to scream. Where the heck does he think most artist start out. Maybe Simon should spend some real time out there and see the talent available. Sure there are many average singers and some bad ones too but that's where people start most careers. ETA- I'm pretty sure piercings and tattoo are mainstream these days.
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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 8:00 pm
If you mean by "middle America" people with ethics, family values, work ethic, patriotism, maybe some religion, independant thinkers, some conservative, obeying the letter of the law, then yes, count me as middle America. I agree, if, when people say "middle America", as if it's a derogatory term ( I'm sure costacat didn't mean it that way), then I get really riled. "Middle America", has been the butt of jokes, laugh lines, derogatory statements for so long now in the media, I think it's time to turn the tide, and maybe we could do a lot worse then emulate some of those "middle American" values. I'll get off my soap box now.
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Sia
Member
03-10-2002
| Friday, May 14, 2010 - 6:53 pm
But what is hip or current about songs that were made popular by Frank Sinatra? That week was a snooze-fest for me. I can't STAND Frank Sinatra: his music, his politics, his personal life, etc. Yuk, yuk, and yuk!
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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 6:27 pm
I'm not a Frank Sinatra fan, he's sort of more my parents era, but I guess the people on this show are trying to say good music is good music, it doesn't matter if it's today's music or 50 years ago. Maybe they wanted to see how these singers would change it up to make it more their own, and make it more current. I love a little of all music from all eras, the old folk music, the old ballads, some country, some disco, some rock, all music has stand outs everyone can enjoy.
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