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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 4:57 pm
And I absolutely hated Clay. He did absolutely nothing for me. I was bored to tears listening to him (still am, actually).
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 5:04 pm
Which "Justin" did Brooke sing with?
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 6:04 pm
Justin Gaston. And you can see their performance HERE. FWIW, Lurk, I blame the sound mixers on how Brooke sang over Justin. He needed to have the volume cranked up on his mic, as he sings softer than she does. Oh, and I still don't think she's all that. She wasn't one of my faves back when she was a contestant. And IIRC, she was a mouthy one when it came to criticism.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 2:38 am
Thanks, I don't think I've heard of him before. Too young and pretty ;).
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Jeep
Member
10-17-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 6:01 am
Not counting Adam, I think Danny and Allison could give these contestants a run for the money. Danny's new song "My Best Days Are Ahead of Me" was on CMTV for their top 20 the past two weeks. And I loved Allison's personality and voice.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 6:24 am
Go check out the General Discussions thread. I'm posting an article from today's local rag, and I have to say I agree with most everything the writer thought!
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 7:08 am
I equate Anoop more with Aaron...both of them kind of pretty but just average.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 7:41 am
I'm with you Costa, couldn't stand Clay Aiken.
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Kittystj
Member
08-10-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 8:06 am
WOW!! All this venome against Clay.... Hate is such a strong word.... Why?
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 8:31 am
OK, I couldn't stand Clay Aiken. I thought he was contrived, I didn't think he was an "idol" and thought he'd be better as a Broadway singer. I disliked all the "fans" that constantly pushed him down my throat. So yeah, I hated Clay.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 10:07 am
Costa, I'd say I half agree w/you. Having spent many MANY hours in recording studios back when most of my clients were country music based, I'd say the sound engineer didn't do Justin any favors. Based on their different baselines levels, his should have been pumped to a more equal level. BUT that said, no live mixing board can do a thing when it's one person's turn to sing and the other person starts bellowing out music in the middle of it, as Brooke did to Justin. That could be cleaned up in a studio setting (if there were enough takes), but definitely not on live TV. So I still say my main problem is Brooke tried to own this performance and in doing so took it over. She sang during her part, his parts and their parts. Plus I'm assuming they rehearsed it one way and she, um, "over enthusiastically" did it differently during the live one. Be it planned or adrenaline on her part, it was wrong and unfair to Justin, very unprofessional, and took alot away from the performance IMHO. I always thought Clay had talent, but he just never did much for me, so guess I'm on some middle ground. Weird how some of these kids win you over and some there's just no real emotional connection with. One thing I have learned, if they are gonna get me to the phone, they have to have touched more than my ears!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 11:03 am
How do you know how it was supposed to be sung?
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 11:27 am
Let's see Jimmer...it's Brooke's turn and she alone wails out her part. It's Justin's turn, he starts singing and Brooke jumps in oversinging him (and he looks surprised by it). It's time for the harmony and rather than sing it as such Brooke moves into the lead. That was the live performance. Then I watched a clip on Hulu of them practicing for it. I see a far more balanced duet, as a duet should be. I see them practicing parts where they shared the spotlight. It was MUCH better than the live show, and far less Brooke. When Justin sang he was allowed to do so on his own, without her jumping in. The duet part was a blending, not a singing over. So that's what I'm basing my comments on. That and the fact that Brooke oversang throughout the entire song. So since it was titled a duet, not Brooke Whatshername w/backup from Justin, I feel confident in my take on it! I haven't had a chance to watch the last Hulu ep of If I Can Dream, but I'm curious if there is more practice footage. If so, I'm betting that will support my take as well.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 12:32 pm
I'll give you the half Lurk. I was never a fan of Brooke's and I couldn't watch more than a couple of minutes of her with Justin. What I did see was the horrible mixing, so I likely missed most of where she decided to stomp all over his vocals. I did think what I heard of the duet parts was horrible, though.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 12:39 pm
Thanks for answering my question, Lurk. Hmmm ... at least on the positive side they obviously weren't lip syncing which has been a common complaint in the past. Truth be told, I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to either of them though I did like a couple of Brooke's performances in her season. I'd forgotten who Justin was until someone mentioned him here.
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Kittystj
Member
08-10-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 1:19 pm
Costacat.Sorry you guy are so bitter towards Clay. Never found him contrived...admit some fans are over annoying...as are all fans. You aren't impressed by his humanitarian work? Unicef Ambassador? Travels to Afghanistan etc? His foundation that has camps for kids with disabilities so they can be able to go to camp with normal kids? (Let's All Play). That's OK, you can hate. I've enough love for both of us!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 1:33 pm
Just because someone does a bunch of humanitarian work doesn't mean I should love that person or be impressed by that person. It's nice he does all that. But... so what? So do other people. Just sayin'...
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 1:40 pm
Angelina Jolie is some sort of ambassador too and I can't stand to look at that woman anymore. I don't have to like someone if I don't wanna.
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Kittystj
Member
08-10-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 1:59 pm
Costacat...OK, no more preaching to the bleachers. Quits, quits, quits. Calling it quits.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 2:28 pm
Oh yeah. Thanks Escapee! I knew someone else was and I couldn't remember who the heck it was I was trying to remember! LOL!
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Skydiver6
Member
07-21-2006
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 7:48 pm
I LOVED Brooke last night. I was so happy to see her and I thought she did an awesome job. I felt bad for Katie. They should have never saved Big Mike. He has done nothing for me the past few weeks. I wish they would not do theme nights EVERY week! Let the singers chose some songs they were meant to sing and that have meaning for them. I bet the show dies without Simon next season. I am so glad Siobhan made it this week. She is still my favorite this season!
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 8:34 pm
I thought he was contrived That's what I didn't like about Adam. :-)
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, April 16, 2010 - 9:27 pm
LOL...I love Adam...but I think he is very deliberate (which could also be construed as contrived) about the choices he is making for his career, including going on American Idol. The only misstep that he has made IMO (and it was a big one) was that disastrous performance on that awards show...other than that I think he has made very good choices that keep his name in front of the public (and who knows, perhaps he went for the shock value - if you didn't know who he was before that performance you certainly did afterward).
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Sadiesmom
Member
03-13-2002
| Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 12:57 pm
Speaking of idols you enjoy and don't enjoy - I think it is a personal experience -I think it has to do with harmonics of the ears - just a personal theory. There are many notes Adam sings that I enjoy, but there is one to me he seems to hit that is actually unpleasant. I am sure it is wonderful for someone else and that is why I can respect that we enjoy different sounds. I guess that is why I thought he was off yesterday and others enjoyed the performance. I tried to explain why I did not enjoy Daughtry to someone (machine gun staccato) and what I did not like was their favorite part of his singing. So peace. My comment about Adam just sitting there singing was just how I felt that he could have extended his role as mentor. These idols do not have the budget for bells and whistles, they have to just sing with some stairs fog machines and lighting. But what wins the voting is just the singing and connecting to the audience. I felt it was something that Adam could have really taught these contestants, but he has his own career to promote as does everyone.
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Sia
Member
03-10-2002
| Monday, April 19, 2010 - 5:01 pm
I loved Clay Aiken when he competed on AI and rooted for him all the way through: he was just such an unlikely type for the win, and I just thought his voice was amazing--and I still do. He really has a wonderful voice. Loved Adam Lambert while he competed, and preferred the songs he chose to sing on the show over the things he's released publicly so far. Don't know what went into his selection of songs to put on his CD, but what made him stand out to me was how he took songs I'd heard of and really changed them and made them his own. I was not a fan of Brooke White's while she competed, but have grown to like her a little better since her season concluded. I will watch the clips mentioned above and pay closer attention; she did seem to sing throughout the entire "duet" with that kid whatever-his-name-was. I guess I'm older and don't appreciate newbies like that kid and having Miley Cyrus as a mentor on the show. Maybe Idol can't pay for really big stars these days? I thought the only thing good about saving Mike was that it would have been a shame to send him home before Aaron and Tim get sent home. I don't care about the tweener vote, but I know the show certainly does. The teenyboppers have no impact on me whatsoever. I like Crystal, Casey, Siobhan and Lee best this season. Just my opinion: ymmv.
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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Monday, April 19, 2010 - 5:40 pm
I agree with you Skydiver, it's a shame Katie went home. I really think she is overlooked. I'm sure she wouldn't have won, nor should she have, but I think she should have stayed longer, and one of the guys should have gone, probably Mike, since he was voted off once already.
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