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The TVClubHouse: American Idol/Canadian Idol/Other Talent Shows ARCHIVES: American Idol VII: 5-21 Finale Night: Archive through May 23, 2008 users admin

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Tigerfan
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11-06-2003

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tigerfan a private message Print Post    
Oh I'm David Cook's biggest fan!! I've been watching his Youtubes as well. I think he knocked 'The World I Know' out of the park. I understand that Ed Roland of Collective Soul called him and told him that it blew him away.

Jandy
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07-08-2005

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 11:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jandy a private message Print Post    
did anybody notice that Syesha was off key on every song she sang (at one point or another)?

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 12:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I love Collective Soul. I would have loved to have seen DC take on "Shine."

Tigerfan
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11-06-2003

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 12:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tigerfan a private message Print Post    
You and me both Hermi!! One of my all time Favorite bands.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 12:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Here is a kewl behind the scenes look at what goes into putting on that last show/s:

A Reporter Gains Access Behind the Scenes

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 1:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
I'm so glad that David Cook won, for me he was the better singer and I hope he will be very successful. I think David A will do well, he seems like he would be great on broadway, even just to start his career. Simon's apology was, hmmm, I don't know, made me wonder had they shown him the winner beforehand; maybe they need to add more judges, if not replace them, get some freshness to the show. All in all, it's been a while since I actually liked the winner, so I'm glad David Cook won. Here's a clip of David Cook and ZZ top from the show.

Sharp Dressed Man - ZZ Top & David Cook May 21, 2008

Charlottesmom
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01-03-2008

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 1:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Charlottesmom a private message Print Post    
Just a reminder that David Cook will be on Leno tonight!

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 1:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Maris, thanks for the link! funny funny pips! lol
I heard that song while I was doing dishes, I wish I would have turned around to watch the tv!

Maris, where did you see the scenes of the red carpet before the show? If it was a tv show, is that something they usually do before an AI finale? Thanks for reporting on it. I wish I'd seen it. I'll have to try to remember it for next year.

I saw both of the guitar hero risky business ads. I was more uncomfortable for David C (even if he wasn't uncomfortable at all) than David A, maybe because David A was wearing boxers. I don't think David C was but I don't remember. I thought they both did a very good job especially considering they aren't actors.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
I want to hear David C sing Tiny Dancer

Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 2:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Happy it was on the TV guide channel, I would keep an eye on it because they have been known to replay and replay things to death.

I absolutely think, as Goddess suggested last night, that Simon and Randy knew the results and were backtracking furiously so they didnt have complete egg on their faces. I mean who really believed that crap that they went home and watched the show on TV. I dont believe it for a second, Simon doesnt strike me as the type who really cares that much beyond doing the show and collecting the money.

Simon apologizing is pretty much unheard of and Simon even taking back his opinions on an entire night is also unheard of.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 2:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I thought it was kind of an accepted fact that the judges knew the results before broadcast. Many times I've seen Simon's sour puss projecting his dissatisfaction for a vote that had yet to be revealed during the regular season. I've never heard him totally eat his words like that, though, he'd just say "America got it wrong" and move on (of course America would be pissed and Simon would get lambasted in the press, but it's all in the name of publicity good or bad, so who cares). This time, though, he's going to have to work with Cook for a long, long time. He can't just dismiss him and treat him like sloppy seconds (like he tried to the night before. I loved how Cook disagreed with him and shrugged him off without flinching a bit). I just had a feeling it was all damage control for Simon in the short and long run.

Muse
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08-09-2001

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 3:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Muse a private message Print Post    
I don't think the judges know the results before the show. Not for the regular season, at least. I have seen them completely shocked on various occasions (Paula near-hysterical a few times!). I do think that the finale might be different, though...Simon has backtracked twice (once with Ruben and once with David C.) before the show and managed to be correct. Perhaps it's just that he listens to the public's reaction, rumors/spoilers, etc. But it seems odd that the two times he was wrong he somehow changed his opinion on results day.

Charlottesmom
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01-03-2008

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Charlottesmom a private message Print Post    
David Cook is on Access Hollywood right now.

David Cook on Access Hollywood

Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 5:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
The judges have admitted in prior seasons they knew the results before the show started. I dont know if they treat the final any different. I remember one instance this year where Paula was crying before Ryan even announced it, I think for Michael Johns.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 5:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I still can't possibly understand why the Judges decided to take such a strong position favoring David A. for two reasons. One - I didn't think he was that significantly better (if he was better at all). Two – I don't see why they would put themselves out there so much in one direction, given the likelihood that David C. would end up winning the competition (which he won easily despite the Judges' criticism). I just don't get it. Does anyone have a theory about why they did it?

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 5:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I dunno, Jimmer.

I guess one theory would have it that they wanted to galvanize the Cook-loving cougar population into action by offending their delicate sensibilities, and let's face it we can stay up much later hitting the redial button than the tweenie pants-pee-ers. Which apparently we did.

I don't give them that much credit, I think they thought the tweenie pants-peer-ers had the momentum and determination and an Archuleta win was a foregone conclusion. I thought Archuleta was in fact better Tuesday night, Cook seemed to have the wind taken out of his sails somewhat and they jumped his shit for not bringing his A game (for that I don't really blame them). And the judges failed to remember that the contest was a marathon, not a one-night sprint.

But the calling the winner thing by a knockout? Ridiculous any way you slice it.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 6:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
agreed GAL

I will add, I suspect that their perception was skewed because David A so outdid himself in his first two performances - they felt blown away. Whereas David C gave mediocre performances relative to what we saw from him the rest of the season, so it felt like a let-down.

It was the final, and they wanted to be wowed. I also suspect that they were a bit peeved at David C feeling that maybe he was taking the win for granted, and giving all of the folks at the Nokia and everyone who was tuning in for the big night less than his best. Then there was humble little David A rising to the occasion with the professionalism and drive of a star. I can see why they felt compelled to put weight on that (tho I agree it was ridiculous to have amnesia over the rest of the season)

JMHO


Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 6:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Remember over the last few weeks Simon and Randy have said, more or less directly, that they wanted a David COOK win, so it's not like David A was their favourite. I think they had seen the rehearsal, were surprised at David C's bad choices (three songs that were quite similar, and no knock out final song) and David A's excellent choices, and just saw what many of us saw, that in that one show David A shone and David C didn't. I think they were just being honest.

I would be very surprised if the judges didn't know the outcome of the votes in the previous weeks and knew that David C was on top. (Not that I know he was on top, but given his rising popularity and his win, I'm pretty certain he was.) I think they expected a David C win and were just giving David A his dues.

And just in case there was a hoard of teeny-boppers about to hammer the phonelines for David A, they gave David C's supporters some reverse psychology incentive to get up and vote. Worked for me .

Charlottesmom
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01-03-2008

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Charlottesmom a private message Print Post    
Just a reminder that David Cook will be on Leno tonight :-)

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 8:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
Kit said exactly what I feel.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 9:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
David Cook and the whole top 10 will be on Larry King Friday night..

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, May 23, 2008 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
David Cook was great on Leno last night, although clearly exhausted beyond rational thought. He seemed very relaxed. He has such a quiet personality (and I'm not saying that's a bad thing by the way) that he kind of always seems to let things just roll right by him with just a cute little smile.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Friday, May 23, 2008 - 9:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Thanks Maris, I'll look for it.

After Simon apologized to David C, my 14 yr. old said something about Simon probably knowing the results and not wanting to look like he made a mistake.

I'm glad he apologized and I guess it didn't make a difference in the votes so much that it mattered since David C won anyway, but I feel almost worse for David C now than I did the night before the finale about the negative comments to David C. They could have done a much better job with those comments and still given David A a lot of praise.

oh well. I hope they have learned for the future.

I saw that David C was coming up on Leno (I had been watching Laura and Jenna Bush) and fell asleep! I'm glad to hear it was a good interview!

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Friday, May 23, 2008 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
David Cook on the Jay Leno Show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kJvD14WLXQ

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Friday, May 23, 2008 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
Thanks for posting that, Mame. I didn't watch it last night.

They really have found the perfect idol. He's well-spoken and very personable. I just can't see David Archuleta being the same way.