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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 11:11 am
Mods, forgive me for starting another thread, I just didn't know where to post questions or thoughts that weren't related to any particular week, but rather pertain to the show as a whole. (I didn't want to clutter up a weekly thread with stuff that didn't pertain to that week's show.) So this is the deal, we have a pool here at work where its double elimination (and we pay Top 3). Twelve of us pick two names out of a hat and those are our idols. You are stuck with those two - you can't choose who you want. So this girl (who has never watched Idol before), picks Jason C. and David A. Well the other day she made a comment to me that she would be winning two spots with Jason C. and David A. Well, at first I thought she was kidding. Then yesterday, I sent out my weekly commentary regarding the show and its no secret that I love Michael Johns (even though I didn't pick his name) and I think it will be a Michael Johns/David Cook final two. Well OMG... I opened the gates of hell. She unleashed a fury on me for hating on David A. She was furious with me and she says everywhere she looks on the internet they are predicting a David C./David A final two with David A. winning. So I told her if David A. outlasts Michael Johns, I will never watch this show again. I'm done... D-U-N-N-N. So my question is, am I crazy for not thinking that David A. can make the final two and outlast Michael Johns?
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 11:14 am
Can't stand David A. I think it will be Michael Johns and David C.
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Bonzacat
Member
07-08-2003
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 11:17 am
Someone is paying good money at iTunes for David A. downloads, consistently putting him first among the Idol downloads almost every single week. If that is any indication of voting, and who knows if it is... but if it is, he's destined for the finals. ETA: that wouldn't be my choice, but the cynic in me thinks it will happen.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 11:26 am
I'm not sure. It appears that David A. has a big lead but he may have peaked too early much like um .... what was her name from last year .... this is bad? Fame is obviously fleeting as far as I'm concerned. 
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 11:53 am
I think that the younger set (probably 16 and under - the Hannah Montana set) are into David A...and the blue-haired lady set. And probably the first ones are doing the iTunes downloads (my daughter, who is 11, loves to download songs from iTunes). But how much they actually vote is questionable. They are not likely to be the ones who can set up automated voting things and get in the multiple votes. I assume they are the texters and the dialing time after time people. But I don't know. I don't vote for David A and don't see his appeal. I'm hoping he has peaked and starts going a little down. Seems like a nice enough kid but I just don't see him as the type of person who has typically won this competition.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 12:16 pm
When David A walks on the stage you can hear the screams from the adoring fans. For that reason alone he'll be in the final three and probably final two, I think. Next on screams is David C, and he'll be right there with him. I see the third in the final three being either: . Michael Johns if he chooses good tracks, but I don't think he actually has that large a fanbase with the people who vote. Possibly because he's older and married. . or Carly, with the same caveat as Michael. Syesha, Kristy, Jason and Brooke will be gone next unless Michael or Carly mess up. That's my guess anyway!
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 12:20 pm
Ya think Kitt? See, I would think that Michael Johns would appeal to any woman over the age of 30. I actually work with some girls here in their 20s who think he is sooooooo hot. One of the girls here was a big David A supporter, but once they got to Final 12, she has quickly turned into a Michael Johns fan. She could care less about David A. FWIW, I don't see Simon really praising David A. for "star power" as he has praised David C. and Michael J.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 12:31 pm
Well Michael certainly appeals to me, but I vote maybe five times at the end of the season, and that's just not going to help him out. I think that's his problem. If he really ups his game he could get the following David A gets (in the group that matters when it comes to voting), but I think with David A's already established fanbase it'll be difficult.
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Carmenv
Member
04-14-2006
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 12:32 pm
Michael Johns appeals to me, and I'm 41, so..... I think David A. is a very, very good singer, but....he doesn't really emotionally connect with me. I find myself liking the older singers who have more life experience. My favorites are David Cook and Michael Johns. I would love to see them both in the Final 2, but I'm sure David Archuleta will be there in the end.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 12:41 pm
The problem for me is David A's song selection vs. his young age and appearance. I think you can be young and compete in this competition (e.g. Jordin) but David A looks young and he looks young for the songs he is singing. For example, no matter how beautifully he may sing "Long and Winding Road" I just can't get into the song with him singing it. Long and winding road .... long long time ago .... It just doesn't work with him.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 12:48 pm
Carmen, I'm 48 years-old, and trust me... Michael Johns appeals to me. That's my point - I think Michael Johns would obviously appeal to more women than David A. I wish we knew who was getting the most votes out of three of them, David C., David A. and Michael Johns. It could very well be a possibility that David A. is trailing those two in votes, but he's getting more than everyone who is landing in the bottom three every week. David A. has had some rough weeks - I would be stunned if Michael got voted out before David A.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 12:55 pm
Well according to Dial Idol, David A is pretty strong. The question is will he have any growth as other contestants drop out or will the other contestants' fans vote for someone else? Dial Idol
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Carmenv
Member
04-14-2006
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 12:58 pm
I am SURE that Michael Johns appeals to more WOMEN than David A....I'm just not sure he appeals to as many little girls, tweeners, or whatever they call them, who are fast and furious with the texting, and can stay on the phone voting for hours, you know? Which is why I won't be surprised at all if Michael Johns gets voted out before David A. In fact, if you check the Dial Idol results, David A. is ALWAYS at the top - by a LOT, usually. There was only one week so far that anyone else took the top spot and that was David Cook. So while I think Michael Johns probably appeals to more women, it might not be the ones that are voting 2,000 times a night.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 12:58 pm
David A's singing is fine if I don't have to watch him do it. I enjoy watching MJ and DC sing because they 'perform' every single week, not just stand there and sing the song. But then, I don't usually vote until they get down to the final 6, and only then if there is someone that I want to win it (i.e. Chris Daughtry previously) Whoever wins doesn't really matter. I think that, like Daughtry, David Cook will have a good career whether he wins or leaves next week. I am not so sure about Michael Johns, but there might be something there.
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Carmenv
Member
04-14-2006
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 1:03 pm
I will say that, in checking the Dial Idol results for the past several weeks, it DOES appear as though David A. MIGHT be losing ground. He is still generally at the top, but by a much smaller margin. So like Jimmer said, maybe he peaked too early? Jimmer, do you mean like Lakisha, who was very good early in the auditions, and then just never had another "moment?"
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 1:14 pm
Actually, I was thinking more of Melinda who had a much larger early fan base than the other contestants but didn't seem to pick up many additional fans as the shows went along and other contestants dropped out.
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Bbpeach
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 7:39 pm
Part of the problem for Michael Johns, is that he and David Cook have the same fanbase. Just look at the posts here, everybody likes both. People will be voting for one, or splitting their votes between the two. I also believe other people find David Cook very talented at arrangesments moreso than MJ. Therefore I think David Cook comes out ahead between the two. David A doesn't really have anybody in the same mold as him, therefore gets all the votes that like that type.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 8:49 pm
I would pick DC over MJ anyday. As far as DA peaking too early, I would think it had more to do with all the praise heaped on him. He was "expected" to win because he won that other show. America tends to like an underdog.
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Biginjapan
Member
07-23-2005
| Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 1:07 pm
Keep in mind that David A has the most fans voting for him but he also has the most anti fans who will vote for whoever else is standing against him in the end.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 1:28 pm
Poor guy, why does he have anti-fans? Did he do something bad?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 10:38 pm
Kitt, not bad, but there are always people wanting to bring down someone touted as the "obvioius winner".
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, April 07, 2008 - 8:29 am
I think David Cook's the clear favourite to win now, so maybe that will help quash the anti David A voters. That's just cruel, particularly when he's so young. Actually isn't it pretty unusual to have a really big favourite to win early in the season that is taken over by a second really big favourite to win? I don't remember it being so clear cut in previous seasons (i.e. there were a few possible favourites and one or two developed from there).
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Monday, April 07, 2008 - 3:10 pm
While I agree David C. is good there is something about his projected lack of humility that bothers me. I just can't warm up to his "personality".
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Rvon
Member
12-11-2003
| Monday, April 07, 2008 - 3:20 pm
Auntiemike, ITA. David C. is an excellent singer, but I think he is too "full of himself" right now and I have a very hard time getting past this and really enjoying his music.
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Hobbs
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 5:57 am
The "humility" thing is one reason I think Brook has gone so far. She really seems to appreciate what she is doing and the opportunity AI is giving her. She is genuine and I think that gains someone a couple of places in the standings.
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