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Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 8:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Why is this thread so big? Holy crapinoli!!!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 8:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The timing reminded me of when you were little and got caught doing something, and tried to change the subject so maybe you wouldn't get into trouble. Chris never responded to the conversation at hand, and instead threw that in. I think his timing would've worked HAD HE SAID THAT at first, before Randy even began to speak. He had the opportunity, but he chose to throw it in when Simon was talking about his singing style (or lack thereof).

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
To be fair to Chris about the timing, that is the only time he has to speak and he is from Virginia, so it was probably heartfelt. I don't believe he was looking for votes. Maybe because it was on the last judge, he got it in then. I don't know but I choose not to condemn him for this without proof.

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hobbs a private message Print Post    
LL, I think you are correct now that I know he is from VA. But at the time, I thought otherwise.

ETA: This is actually a Drudge headline. Lythgow responded. Drudge Report

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
I don't think we can know whether Chris did it for sympathy or it was just because it's the only time he had to speak.

But I think that at that moment that Simon rolled his eyes because he thought it was done for sympathy.

And I think that he was told that that eye roll could come back to haunt him if America thought he was rolling his eyes at the tragedy himself. Thus, his own oddly-timed statement.

Loyolamom
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05-10-2005

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 8:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loyolamom a private message Print Post    
LL, I was going to say the same thing about Chris. I read a comment at another site that Chris should have been allowed to do a "sit down" and instead of being asked a question he could have addressed his feelings about VT. I thought that was a suggestion that made sense.

I thought Phil was great last night! That's the Phil I've been hoping to see all season. I've liked him from the beginning but always felt like his nerves got the best of him and he just wasn't able to show any personality when he got on stage. I hope that if he doesn't get the boot this week will give him some confidence as he moves forward.

Jordin was fantastic! Another one of my faves and she just did a smash up job. She looked absolutely lovely too!

Melinda was the star of the night I thought. She owned the song, the stage, and the crowd.

Lakisha didn't have the best night, for her, but I'm gonna give her a pass. I've loved her every week and I hope that this week doesn't get her the boot.

I thought Blake was boring but he's never been one of my faves so maybe that has something to do with it. I think Chris usually sounds nasally. I will say though that the guy from Big and Rich (I hope I'm thinking of the right song and the right group) has a nasally sound when he sings that song too. I could be wrong about that.

Maris
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Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 8:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Lol, Simon was so rolling his eyes at Chris. Not about the event just that Chris was changing the subject from Simon's criticism.

As soon as I saw it thought, I figured it would become an event.

Penguin
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09-08-2005

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 9:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Penguin a private message Print Post    
The song Chris did was a Rascal Flatts song. I love country music but I can't stand Rascal Flatts because they sound nasally. I guess that is why Chris pick a song from them

Loyolamom
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05-10-2005

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loyolamom a private message Print Post    
Penguin, thanks for clearing that up! Rascal Flatts is exactly who I meant!!

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Best of the night: Jordin by a landslide imo. I thought she looked great too from the high waist up. Her hair and makeup were really pretty. The top of the dress was too. Right above the waist and down though looked too moo-mooish to me. She is too young to dress in a moo-moo. (sp?)

I thought Melinda looked the best she has with her strapless top/dress (I can't remember) and her hair style.

For me, Melinda and LeKisha tied in the singing tonight for 2nd best. I thought they both sounded great. I thought LeKisha looked great except for boots. Her hair and makeup were really pretty. I was touched that she wiped a tear away after she was finished singing. I am glad Paula said that although it wasn't her best, "so what" and that she really can sing so well, or something like that. I liked what Simon said to her too. I loved that she moved Martina with her singing!

I hope it comes down to a Jordin LeKisha F2 but I think it will probably by Melinda and one of the guys as F2.

I am so surprised that with 7 left that 4 of them are guys. I thought Gina, Stephanie and Sabrina (was that her name?) along with Melinda, Jordin and LeKisha were all better than any of the guys including the guys that are left.

I thought Phil sang the best he ever has last night. But, I don't think he is a very great singer. His voice is suited more to country though. He surprised me last night. Sanjaya sounded terrible. I like Blake ok, but his singing doesn't usually sound too great to me and Chris has never sounded good to me. I think I like deeper voices from male singers or something.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
I don't listen to much country, but I've always disliked the tone of Rascal Flatts' lead singer's voice. My mom told me last night that the song Chris sung was a Rascal Flatts song and I thought, "Well, that was perfect then!" LOL

I thought Blake had a very off night, and was surprised to hear the judges praise him so much.

I loved Jordin last night. She looked gorgeous. My husband thought she looked like she could be an Indian princess.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Great for Simon to address the surprised look Melinda shows. The thing is, I don't think she can help it. I think she has a lack of confidence when she is not singing. I also think that when she just smiles she looks a little surprised.

Roxip
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Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 9:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I like Rascal Flatts, but didn't like the way that Chris butchered it. I've not ever liked Blake (has anybody else noticed how small his mouth is?) so I'm not going to comment, except to say he is definitely not interested in country music. LaKisha's performance disappointed me. Sanjaya was horrible. I was amazed at how well Phil finally pulled it together...hope it isn't too late for him. Melinda was good but I thought her outfit was appalling...but I admire the support her bra provided for her. Jordin was beautiful -- both her voice and her appearance. The dress could have been better but she was amazing vocally and her expressions.

Martina McBride was great -- that woman has the most beautiful eyes!

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 9:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I really felt bad for Sanjaya. Granted it was an utterly abysmal performance, but Mr. Simon didn't have to be so mean about it. And yes, his performance could have been one of those performances we laugh at in the first weeks--the Road to Idol or whatever--but he made it into the two twelve by virtue of the fact that the judges thought he should get into the top 24, so let's not blame him! Simon is complicit in all of this.

But, as I said, I have halfheartedly joked throughout this season that I liked Sanjaya, but I can't even joke about it anymore. It's just sad.

Now, as for Chris....yuck. I don't know anything about the group Little Flat Rascals or whatever it was that originally did the song he performed last night, but it couldn't have been that bad. Ever. And I have to admit that if I were Mr Simon I would have rolled my eyes too.

Bonbonlover
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Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 9:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Chris has never been one of my favorite singers...I think every song he sings sounds the same...And while i have wanted him gone for a few weeks, I think it would be bad timing for him to be voted out because of his performance last night ... I am sure it was a very difficult night for him to perform...

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
I would hate to see Chris go tonight... just bad timing.

Regardless of when or what Chris said, I think it is very immature for anyone to roll their eyes. It's just very disrespectful. I am amazed at John L explanation in the Drudge report above saying somthing like "Simon didn't know the camera was on him", like it's okay to do it when the camera is off?

And I really like Simon and appreciate the value he brings to the show.

I'm still not liking Melinda (sorry, just something about her does not ring Idol to me). Loved hearing/seeing Phil do well last night. Blake was okay but I think he was smart for not trying to be a country singer. He knows his limitations.

Jordon/Phil were the best of the night for me.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
I enjoyed Blake, Melinda, Lakisha, and Phil's performances last night.

Yoda
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08-11-2005

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yoda a private message Print Post    
Phil's best performance by far.
Afraid Lakisha might go tonight (but hope not).
Loved Jordin and hope she wins the whole thing.
It is time for Sanjaya to go; last night was a joke IMHO.

Wink
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10-06-2000

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wink a private message Print Post    
Tish I have made this comment before but when you mention Simon being mean to Sunjaya I have to disagree. In past weeks he has said some very cruel things to both Haley and Phil commenting on both their physical appearance and their performances. Granted I wouldn't put either of them at the top of my favourites list but neither do I feel they deserved some of the horrible dressing downs they were given.

It pisses me off that for whatever reason Sunjaya seems to have been untouchable in the past weeks for his shortcomings. It's about time the judges got some cojones and told it like it should be. Yes the judges put him in the top 24 but it doesn't mean they had to keep him there by coddling him.

Obviously the additional publicity that came with the Sunjaya controversy had the advertisers and producers salivating in their cereal and they wanted him in the top 10 for the tour dollars they felt he would generate. But I think if those 3 judges were to retain any kernel of respectability they had to put an end to the Sunjaya fiasco.

My opinion only and as I have heard others say, your mileage may vary.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 10:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Wink, I thought his comments to Mr. Phil were also terrible--and I personally think Mr Phil is one of the better singers on the show this season. But poor Sanjaya is so young and so innocent. Sure, it may appear that he is taking this whole thing as a joke, but I think it's because he's been treated as a joke instead of what he really is: the greatest pure pop star to come along since Milli Vanilli.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 10:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Jordin was the best for me last night, followed by Melinda, Lakiesha and Phil.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    

quote:

To be fair to Chris about the timing, that is the only time he has to speak...


Actually, he could've said something right before Randy went into his review. His mic is on then (that's when they usually say "hi" to Randy's "dawg").

ETA: FWIW, I thought Simon rolled his eyes at the comments Chris had been making earlier, about "nasal" being a singing style. I didn't think Simon rolled his eyes because it may appear that Chris was working a sympathy vote.

And I still don't like Chris, no matter what.

Wink
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10-06-2000

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 10:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wink a private message Print Post    
LOL Tish yes Sanjaya will be right up there in the hall of fame next to Milli Vanilli and that white rapper guy with the blond crewcut whose name I've forgotten.

And yes he is very young and the sad thing is that he has parents and an extended family who should have been giving him a reality check rather than letting themselves be blinded by the potential dollar signs flashing in their dreams.

They allowed this kid to continue his fantasy and although no one wants to see the dreams of the young totally dashed, I feel their enabling probably had a lot to do with his behaviour and reaction to the whole Idol process.

Unfortunately, I think the dollar signs also influenced the production team, including the judges, to bring his run on Idol to a rather ugly end.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm not sure Chris speaking before the judges would have worked well either. It was just awkward. If he jumped in before Randy to make his comments about Virginia Tech, it might have been a problem as well.

How would Randy have responded? "Yes Dawg that was awful. Speaking of awful, your singing was very nasally tonight."

How do you critique someone immediately after he makes heartfelt comments about people at Virginia Tech?

The best time for Chris to speak would have been if Ryan had asked him questions before his performance, but that was beyond Chris' control. However, if they had done that, some people would then suggest that AI was trying to get sympathy votes for Chris.

IMO the best thing to do is to keep entertainment and news separate.

Yankee_in_ca
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Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 10:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
Simon Says Sorry for Supposed Va Tech Snub
by Gina Serpe
Wed Apr 18, 6:37 AM ET

Los Angeles (E! Online) - Sanjaya's hairstylist can relax—American Idol has bigger controversies to deal with now.

Simon Cowell is calling criticism that he rolled his eyes while contestant Chris Richardson offered post-performance well wishes for the families and victims of the Virginia Tech massacre on Idol Tuesday night "rubbish." Instead, Cowell tells Idol cohort and E! News anchor Ryan Seacrest that the perceived gesture was the result of shoddy acoustics, not callousness in the face of a national tragedy.

While speaking with Seacrest on the latter's Los Angeles radio show Wednesday morning, Cowell said his eye-rolling was directed at Richardson's "ridiculous" explanation that his nasally rendition of Rascal Flatts' "Mayberry" was intentional, a defense that came in the wake of Cowell slamming the finalist's singing style.

However, unbeknownst to Cowell, by the time Fox's ever-ready cameras panned back to the acerbic judge's dismissive reaction, Richardson was already proffering his plea to the country to pray for the school in its prayers, making it appear, at least to some viewers, as though the Brit was shrugging off Richardson's appeal.

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