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Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 9:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I agree that it's unkind to make fun of people's names, in fact it's unkind to make fun of people at all. I especially find it distasteful when it is someone much younger being made fun of.

I just don't see the point in being mean-spirited, and saying that we should learn to laugh about it.

Lateeda
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12-01-2006

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lateeda a private message Print Post    
I just don't see the point in being mean-spirited...
That was my point - I didn't see the intent as being mean-spirited. From our youngest days, we learn to rhyme, make up our own songs, heck the whole 'Anna Anna bo-banna, Fe-fi fo fanna, me-mi mo manna, Anna' was part of the Name Game Song!
It is just something little kids do w/out a mean bone in their body! And therefore a lot of grown-ups STILL do it, whether one thinks they should "know better" or not. I don't see the intent/purpose of Mr Williams as setting out to hurt Sanjaya on a personal level. That's why I think folks should take this for what it was instead of making it out to be a personal attack on the kid. Heck, if it hurts anyone, it should be the parents who chose the name, not the one the name was GIVEN to!
And I see a big difference between actually CALLING someone a name (inexcuseable in any circumstance), and having someone make a comment about what your name may or may not sound like...

Serate
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08-21-2001

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Watching David Letterman [had it on TiVo finally got it watched last night] I really and truly do not think it was a big deal. It was just a quick joke, they didn't go on and on about it. With all the other things said about Sanjaya, some to his face, this was one of the least offensive IMO.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I agree that the comments on David Letterman are not the equivalent of some of the awful stuff that certain celebrities have spouted lately.

Parents should think about the names they choose for their children.

Probably a good idea but it doesn't work if you have a foreign name that some people think sounds silly because of language differences or a name that they associate with another word in their language. Then it becomes a burden.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Ah, Jimmer, once again you are correct!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I am against name mocking.. and sometimes it is hard to avoid, because of rhyming even the most regular of names can be mocked. My brother shared Nixon's name, so he got more than his share

As for going on Letterman, I'd say Sanjaya's "people" should perhaps have prepared him for that sort of thing. As Harvey Fierstein pointed out in his op-ed after the Imus debacle, Letterman quite often targets groups, such as overweight people, for jokes, and then there are the guests. Late night isn't always PC.

My guess is that in Sanjaya's case (and I know he's young, but who is advising him????) he tends to come off as cocky at times and he certainly brought on lots of eye rolling all over the media with his comments about needing a bodyguard and the interview where he talked of going to the mall with other idol kids and how lucky it was that they had bodyguards when they ran into some cheerleaders from UC Riverside. I mean, did he actually think the cheerleaders were going to mob and injure him??

As for ethnic names, it does make me sad when people feel they have to drop them or other people can't be bothered to use them or pronounce them correctly.

The last place I worked had such a diverse group of employees and we really (most of us) enjoyed the variety of names. We had a new employee come in who was orig from Ecuador and his name was Jaime. Such a sweetie! Anyway he said we could call him Jamie, that was ok. We had to question him, because of course if he WANTED to be called Jamie that was fine, but it turned out he just suggested that because he'd had people who didn't want to make the effort to pronounce Jaime. We also explained that we already had a Jamie, who was Korean, but his name was really Jamie.

As for Sanjaya, apparently he's still enjoying the positive aspects of "fame" and he can always cut back; others have done so.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
In college I worked in housekeeping and of course we had a lot of the international students working in our department because the couldn't not legally work off campus. Our supervisors decided what they would call "them foreigners" based on what "normal" name sounded closet to their real name. Going with phonics: Highleek was called Hailey, Feelika was called Felix, Doreatha was called Dorothy, Nahteen was called - get this - Knitting! Chapped my chi-chi's. Got myself into alot of trouble whenever the supervisor would say things like " serate tell Hailey to do this" and I'd say "who's Hailey?" and got myself fired from housekeeping but ended up in the office for "serate go get Knitting" and I said "I don't know how to knit but I do know how to crochet if that will work."

Kind of off topic but to me this was worse - making up names to actually call these people to their faces vs. making a quick one time joke on a late night talk show where everything and everybody is made fun.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
My dd hated her name in grade school because kids would make fun of it, Rainie-pronounced Rainy, but she loves her name now.
The making fun of a 17 yr olds name by an adult is just immature and not funny.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
Side note to Denecee -- my mom's nickname as a child was Rainy (name is Lorraine)!

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    


Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hobbs a private message Print Post    
Ricky's blog (I don't do links well) (help please Naja) says that Chris has lowest votes, but the only fairwell package made is Lakisha's. Hmmmm.

Y2krazy
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09-17-2002

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Y2krazy a private message Print Post    
OK, just to chime in on the name game...when I was pregnant (19 yrs ago) my mom insisted she was going to be "Grandma" 'cause she didn't want any of her grandchildren to suffer like she had by having a "mimi" and "pepe"
My grandmother was French, and my grandfather was of German descent. My mother was a girl during WW2 and was teased and harassed for having a German name. Also because she was living in a very English and narrow-minded area, having a mom with a French accent was a "bone-of-contention"

She was so very concerned that HER grandchildren not have to deal with the prejudice like she did. Now our neighbourhood (and hers) is so highly diverse it is almost funny.

So I can understand where a name could 'cause problems....so sad, in my opinion. When it should just make the world a more charming place.

Hope I make sense with this long-winded message. I've been interupted by work a few times now..

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm curious now. Who is Ricky? I know about the blog but does anyone know who he really is? I can't imagine that AI is happy about this stuff he is putting out.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, you know what they say about curiousity, don't you?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Fortunately I'm not one of those cats on The Farm.

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 1:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hobbs a private message Print Post    
HEY! WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE FARM CATS???

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 1:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hobbs a private message Print Post    
Seriously though, he doesn't say. Just that he has connections. Maybe Naja knows more. I've only been looking at his stuff for a few days now.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 2:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I've been following Rickey for the last few weeks since Naja turned me on to him. He is dead-on in everything he posts. It's almost like he works there - he says he doesn't - just that he has connections in AI, but its freaky how he is always 100% spot-on in his posts.



Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 2:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
it isn't rickey.org you're talking about, is it? Because I can't find that post on his site. Maybe I'm blind.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
No... its Ricky's Myspace whatchamadinky dealie. Not that I know anything about Myspace or have a Myspace page or whatever they are called, but I can still read his posts and spoilers about AI. (He was on IdolsForum but left a couple of weeks ago because he started getting hate messages for posting his spoilers, or something to that effect).



Serate
Member

08-21-2001

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Ricky's myspace

http://myspace.com/reekzonfiah

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 3:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Wednesday, April 25, 2007

Top 6 Results


Just got them this very moment. If you don't believe they are real that is okay, and for the first time in the entire top 12 history Melinda wasn't top vote getting.

1. Jordin Sparks
2. Blake Lewis
3. Melinda Doolittle
4. Phil Stacy
5. Lakisha Jones
6. Chris Richardson

I heard there was rounding 80 million votes cast. I don't know the exact number, when I asked I was told about 80mill. I was also told that Chris Richardson's montage has not yet been made. The only reason results are out to the staff so early is because Idol Gives Back is taking alot of prepping and they don't have the time to organize all the results closer to the show. I was lucky to get these, had the cell phone on at the right time.

It looks like Chris Richardson technically is leaving, but they are ready for a Lakisha Farewell. Can't wait to see what happens! They are still only ready to boot Lakisha though when it comes to montage being made. Chris Richardson's montage is still the basic setup all the contestants have. Lakisha's isn't.

So will they go by votes? Or by what they prepared to do!

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Ricky could be Simon. Just sayin' Come to think of it anyone could be Ricky!!!!!!!!!!

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 4:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Crap and I changed my selection in the game.

Dovez
Member

08-27-2005

Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 1:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dovez a private message Print Post    
re: the news this morning about sanjaya's mother and sister having arrest records for marijuana possession/growing...just wondering if that is one of the reasons sis didn't make it into finals.
any thoughts