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Watching2
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07-07-2001

Friday, January 19, 2007 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
On that note, it bothers me they don't even show all the ones they sent to Hollywood and we can't follow them from beginning to end. Even in Hollywood, there's some we've never seen or heard of until they get to part where they start letting us vote. It's been mentioned other years that it doesn't seem fair to some of the ones who make it through who previously got no screen time.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Friday, January 19, 2007 - 12:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
Well, there is an audience for it. Look at the long history of America's Funniest Home Videos, which to me is just a series of people getting hurt, falling down, getting hit by things.

And yes, Llkoolaid, you're completely right -- in the end they will say "the numbers don't lie." The only way they'll pay attention to anecdotal information like the grumbling on the net is if it starts to affect their ratings or if a "scandal" erupts that could affect their advertisers' willingness to pump the money into commercials.

The other thing is that there is a big difference between what people SAY they watch and what they ACTUALLY watch. When they do polls/research, most people will say that a channel like Discovery or Nat Geo is their favorite, when in fact, it's shows like Ultimate Fighting etc. that consistently gets the ratings.

As a human being, I think it sucks. As a person in the business, it's the reality.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, January 19, 2007 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Let's face it, a guy slipping on a banana peel is funny, until we find out he broke his leg. But a child or a handicapped person slipping on a banana peel is not funny. And a person who actually goes out and delibertely slips on a banana peel is not funny, unless he is Dick Van . (Funny, I can't post Dick's last name because it is considered a bad word. Actually, I am surprised they let me use his first name. On another site where I post, that is also blocked out.) LOL

The producers look at the huge ratings and assume most people watch to see the people slipping on the banana peel. I am sure there are many who do, but I think there are a lot who watch to so like others have said, watch the contestants throughout the competition.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, January 19, 2007 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I believe, at the end of the day (sorry, couldn't resist), that the people who go and try out for Idol are fair game. If the person doesn't know beforehand what they are letting yourself in for then that's sad, but they are among the minority. Most others know that they take the risk of being made an embarrassment on national television. And for some (most of the reallly stupid ones, IMO), that is the entire point. The blonde, self-proclaimed #1 American Idol fan actually said that, in a way. She said that she had already realized her dream just by being shown on television. She had her 5 minutes of fame and I will bet that she will watch herself over and over again -- and perhaps send it to all of her friends as a Christmas card -- not to mention a YouTube -- for the rest of her life. For some people the simple fact of being shown on camera is enough.

Let's face it...if we are at a ball game and watch a later broadcast and they scan the crowd do we not look for ourselves?

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Friday, January 19, 2007 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
Simon loves to say "I am not saying this to be rude, but" or a variation thereof. Whatever he says usually ends being rude.

"Other door." Unlock both darn doors! Is this supposed to be a running gag?

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, January 19, 2007 - 5:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Alitex, you have to type his name
Penis Von Lesbian to get around the censors here :-)

I thought Simons comment was beyond the regular mean stuff he says...he attacked the poor kids physical looks which he cant help...one thing to say he sux as singer another to LOL at his appearence.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, January 19, 2007 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Pamy! Now that is funny!

Zadeira
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10-03-2006

Friday, January 19, 2007 - 5:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zadeira a private message Print Post    
Think of it this way....most of the good/decent singers are nervous going in. They're afraid of what Simon is going to say to them. But you'll notice that most of the really bad singers aren't nervous. Could it be because they know they're bad and want Simon to say something?

Granted, there are a delusional few out there that truly believe they can sing. I blame their friends/family. Instead of getting mad at Simon, get mad at the people who encouraged them to go on the show knowing they'd embarrass themselves. That's my

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, January 19, 2007 - 5:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Beach, they could also have put a sign on the one to open, OPEN THIS DOOR. Too easy I guess. It happened in both cities so far.

Christiii
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07-07-2005

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 2:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Christiii a private message Print Post    
this season has really gotten to me..the last one,s they seemed to be making fun of the more metally stable singers who jsut thought they were great...like bad kareoke..sometimes its fun to watch....I actually think William Hung was pretty intelligent...just not a good judge of his own talent...this year is so different, and sad....IMHO its Americas Home Videos is not a good comparison either....there is a difference between DOING something stupid and making fun of seeming mentally handicapped people...take Beauty and the Geek for example...they COULD have put some of these AI contestants on BATG, but they didnt want a show that just pokes fun at people...I think BATG has done it right, and AI used to have a better handle on things...
I found this pick on Rosie.com today ..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rosie/366339027/
it really almost brought tears to my eyes...those two kids really seemed sweet, and Im sure have been really hurt...I also felt especially bad for the big kid with the blank look on his face, that they said seemed no have no eyelids...
Ive just always really hated bullies...

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 5:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
Christii, I saw them on Keith Olberman yesterday, I think. Both have agents! Only in America. :-)

Christiii
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07-07-2005

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 7:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Christiii a private message Print Post    
really?? oh thats awesome....I know they are totally not deserving of an entertainemtn career, but if they can take away some good memories out of this, then Im so happy! They both just seemed so sweet the way they supported each other....we could use more people like that around...just as long as they arent singing...just kiiiiidding!!

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 9:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
I found my favorite all ready! His name is Sundance and he sang the blues the way they should be. Did anyone else get to see him? Even Simon was impressed and didn't say a word about how he looked. Hopefully that silly beard will go.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 9:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
Supergranny, is that the guy who had long hair and long beard? He was awesome and looks just like my brother...exactly like him. I was wondering if it WAS him!

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 9:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Zachsmom, Sundance was the large fellow with short hair who could sing.

Jennywa
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07-17-2003

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 10:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jennywa a private message Print Post    
Sundance is the one!!!

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 12:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Sundance is the son of Roy Head who has been a singer since the early sixties. Roy was born in Three Rivers, Texas, about sixty miles south of San Antonio. He had a band and played a lot of the halls all around south Texas. He had one really big hit that went I think No. 2 on the charts. He has recorded in country, blues, and rock and roll. Sundance said he has been on stage with his Dad all his life.

I was blown away by his voice. Usually singing without music even the good ones have breaks in their voices. Not him. The power and control in his voice was awesome. I think he is the best I have ever heard on American Idol and that includes at the end of the seasons. If he improves even a little bit, he is going to be tough to beat.

I could see him winning the whole thing. His talent is undeniable and he had a nice personality too. I liked the way he said the judges were not going to be prepared for what they heard and then turned around and laughed at himself and said they would probably kick him out and show what he said and everyone would say what a jerk.

I also liked the girl who sings backups to other singers. She was so sweet and shy, but had such a good voice.

The guy with the long beard and hair has a nice voice, but I would be surprised if he goes very far. Same with the guy whose wife just had a baby. Nice voices, but just a little weak. Of course that is why they send them through. You never know who is going to suddenly blossom out into a great singer.

They were not so unkind tonight either. Did not show so many really bad or freaky ones and did not put them down as bad as last week.

Mamabj
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12-26-2006

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 4:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabj a private message Print Post    
I haven't posted here, yet and I didn't see last nite's show, but I have to speak up about Mr. Jaynes and Mr. Briggs (aka the "chubby one" and the "one with the bug eyes") Mr. Jaynes is an autistic adult who has participated in Special Olympics. Mr. Briggs had a disease that causes his eyes to protrube and in most cases also causes learning disabilities. As the parent of an LD child, I was offended by their remarks as well as some I have heard both on TV and the radio. As for they should know what they are getting into. Their singing criticism they could take, addressing physical issues is NEVER okay. I give these two young men kudos for having the guts to go up in front of these people and participate. When you are the parent of an LD child, all you can do is support them and allow them to take a few chances in life. Even if it goes against your best judgement. They want the same opportunities as "normal" kids. Best wishes to these young men and their futures.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 9:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I just gots to say...

GO SUNDANCE!!

Geez, that man could SING! He totally blew me away. I, too, also liked the woman who was a backup singer. But if she doesn't gain some confidence, she ain't gonna get the votes.

There were a few that were good, but Sundance? Wow!

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Simon said that Sundance blew Taylor out of the park..heh.

Hey that Castro looking guy doesn't live to far from me. I thought he did a pretty good job.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Mambj, I too was very pissed how they treated those young men! I heard them on talk show say they have agents...good for them...hope they can make some money, they seemed to have a good sense of humor and I wish them the best.

Nick, I noticed that comment and LOL!! Simon never liked Taylor, I was surprised they left that comment on the acutal show though....Taylor is under contract with him, I would think the producers would have not wanted that comment aired

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Hehehe! And funny, but when Simon said that, I hadda stop for a minute and think "Taylor WHO?" Duh me!

Oh yeah. Roy Head? I loved how Sundance said his dad had a #1 hit for a short time. Until the Beatles bumped him off the top of the charts. And now he (dad) doesn't like the Beatles. Too funny.

One thing though... can you imagine what the poor guy went thru? Going thru school with the name "Sundance?" I mean, I could get it for a girl's name, but a guy's? But, as he (Sundance) said... his parents were hippies!

Interesting to note that googling "Roy Head" comes up with his "Treat Her Right" being #2 on the charts. Mebbe the son misremembered? :-)

Crzndeb
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07-26-2004

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 10:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Crzndeb a private message Print Post    
I'm doing this from memory, so if anyone has it taped, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. When names were shown, it said Jason "Sundance" Head.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 11:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Well he was screwed being born with last name Head. At least the hippy parents didnt name him Love

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
OR gimmee