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Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 2:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
hummm megaupload didn't work for me..."the source disc for this file could not be located"

Jedisan
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01-11-2002

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 2:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jedisan a private message Print Post    
Thanks for your answer Naja.
Regretfully, I am NOT kidding.
These are the same folks that have been saying the most ridiculous things about S. on my family web-site, and frankly, I have kept quite, but I must speak up about this matter, because I don't want anyone else thinking there is any validity to it.
(there was also a post that it must have been the president that was putting all those votes in for Sanjaya, since he was 'invited by them', or that his father must own all of the 7-11's in the country) I am really sad about that post in particular.
I love them (my family), but I cannot just lurk anymore on that site with what they are saying.
On the other hand, I have said stupid things too -I just want to set the record straight about the dinner thing...
thanks, as always for your thoughts.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Jed, his father is a musician. Not a business man, in case they are wondering about that.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 2:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Does it matter who invited him? I would be thrilled to be asked to visit the White House.



Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 6:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Here's a funny one even Sanjaya <100> will even enjoy.

The other night, Sanjaya was on Letterman doing the top 10 list. (I posted that download).

Well the first guest after Sanjaya left was Brian Williams of NBC News.


Brian sits down for his interview with Dave and the first words out of his mouth is a joke comparing Sanjaya's name to sounding like a certain female body part.


They put the interview up on the CBS Late Night site shortly after it aired just like they do every Dave interview.



Within minutes of it airing, the Sanjaya fan base went crazy. They wrote Dave and CBS about how ethnically insensitive and sexist it was, and a small few thought it racist.

The next thing you know, Brian's blog entry about Sanjaya filled up with Sanjaya defending comments, and after just a few comments, they blocked commenting altogether for that article. (It's looks like you can comment, but they won't approve the comment for posting, note the last comment was at at about 1 PM)

http://dailynightly.msnbc.com/2007/04/one_more_thing.html#comments



Then later today, the whole video was pulled off the Late night site of Brian's interview with with Dave.

http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/

Anyway, it was fun news item to follow.

Here's the comment on youtube that caused the ruckus

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ve403U47L1s

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 6:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Good lord. THAT was offensive? (Seriously, I am so tired of this person. Isn't his 15 minutes up yet?)

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
BTW, yes, I consider Brian's comments offensive and ethnically insensitive, especially since I am also one of those USA born people whose parents decided to give an ethnic name. (my nic here is only a fraction of my almost embarrassing and always made fun of in school full ethnic name)

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 6:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Yikes Costa. You must have a socially acceptable American name in real life. Really, it's a hurtful thing, and even worse since it was done by a supposedly respectable news caster. This one sorta hit me personally. I sure don't think it was racist, just insensitive and stupid and horrible.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 7:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
btw, when I posted, the part I thought you guys would think was funny was how Brian blocked any more comments and how cbs took down his interview video...not that anyone would think it was ok to mock an ethnic name.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think that someone's name is a very personal thing and it is low humor to make fun of it (though in this situation I don't see it as racist). However, I also don't think it was a particularly nasty comment and not remotely on the level of some horrible celebrity comments that have made the news lately.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 7:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Like I said Jimmer, I think it's ethnically insensitive, not racist. That's still horrible for a respected news caster.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Actually, I thought it was funnier cause I really don't think his name sounds like a private part, male or female.

And I don't think it was an ethnic or racial remark, nor do I think it was intended. Heck, far more people have had fun made of their names. Sometimes, you don't like the heat (attention) get outta the kitchen (public eye).

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 7:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I edited my original post slightly after you responded Naja. I agree that it is poor taste on his part and insensitive but not comparable to some of the truly horrible stuff that has been floating around lately.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 7:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
You know, I still don't get it. So many public commentators seems to really dislike Sanjaya, and somehow it seems like it's their new game to make fun of him.

Isn't this the same childish bullying behavior we see in schoolyards? Is it somehow okay because Sanjaya is slightly older than schoolyard age? When did it become okay?

I really don't get why he's become the favorite punching bag, but I don't find it very admirable.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 7:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Just sometimes Costa, it's not a matter of getting out of the kitchen. Your name is your name and you live with it no matter where you go. <48>

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 7:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Mulva?


sorry couldnt resist

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
A person's name is a big part of their identity and it is something that is not easy to change. People want to be proud of their name because it represents them. When someone makes fun of a name (even in a non-vicious way) it hurts and it is humiliating. If it is done in a hurtful way, I think it can be devastating.

Another thing about "name humor" is that the people who do it seem to think they are original and brilliant. So, giving them the benefit of the doubt, even if it is meant in a harmless fun way, chances are the person has heard the same stuff dozens of times before and they are getting pretty tired of it.

Kizz
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07-26-2001

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kizz a private message Print Post    
Pamy I was thinking the same thing!!!

Personally I think the world would be a better place if everyone would just LIGHTEN UP!!!! It was a joke! Maybe not a good joke, but it was a joke.

Maybe we should worry that Sanjaya offended Native Americans by wearing his "ponyhawk"

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 7:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Like I said, people given pretty much acceptable American names at birth can't even fathom what this is about.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
The thing is that most name humor is pretty lame and pathetic in itself. LOL – David Letterman ought to know that.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 7:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Kizz, it's hard to lighten about things that actually made us cry ourselves to sleep as kids.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 8:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Nodding my head with Kar's post. I just don't get why public commentators think it's ok to pick on a kid, especially about something he can do nothing about like his name. After being teased for years about my red hair and freckles, I just don't find that kind of humor funny.

Lateeda
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12-01-2006

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 5:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lateeda a private message Print Post    
I agree about needing to 'lighten up'. My name - Lotti - is German/American. And I can tell you from the minute my classmates could make a rhyme, I heard it ALL and it continued on throughout college! Let's see:
Snotty Lotti; Lotti on the potty, Lot is Hot and full of SNot - and that is just a small sampling of what I heard. Then as we got older, the sexual inuendo started w/my name - Lotti/Lottery - Daily Double, Auto Lotto...
So I don't see making fun of a name as ethnic, racial, or really insensitive or even personal. It's about the sound of the name and 'playing' w/it by making it sing-songy or rhyming or likening it to something else that it may sound similar to. And to me, it has absolutely nothing to do with ME as a person. So I don't take what Mr Williams said as an attack on Sanjaya, just the name itself, as it is simply not common and therefore an easy target.(either is mine - and I couldn't be more Blonde/white).
One more thing - I ALWAYS thought that the Rons, Bobs, Johns, Lisas, Cathys, Anns made fun of my name because their own names were *yawn* commonplace. I thank my lucky stars (and my Dad) for giving me such a uniquely ME moniker! :-)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 9:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think it is wonderful for you personally that this hasn't bothered you.

However, the fact that you and some other people are able to handle it doesn't affect my low opinion of using names to create some sort of humor, because it clearly does hurt some people. Hurting someone to get a laugh is not something that I can approve of.

Some people can also handle being called other derogatory names without letting it affect them emotionally, but that doesn't make it right.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 9:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, that's why parents should think about the names they choose for their children!

FWIW, I don't think making fun is a good thing either.