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The TVClubHouse: American Idol/Canadian Idol/Other Talent Shows ARCHIVES: American Idol VI: General Discussions: Shows: 3/8 Elimination Night: Archive through March 09, 2007 users admin

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Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 1:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
no guarantee that sanjaya goes on tour...haven'tthey taken the top 10 inthe last few years??

Mak1
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08-12-2002

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 4:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mak1 a private message Print Post    
Yes, Roxip, the top 10 have been going on tour. We went to the AI concert last year, and I was so very happy that Kevin Covais had placed 11th, or anywhere below 10th place!

Beth4freedom
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10-24-2003

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 4:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beth4freedom a private message Print Post    
Yes, that's what I thought too re top ten on tour (was true the year I went for Clay Aiken/Ruben/etc tour). So why were they so emphasizing the top 12??? What makes it so different from top 16??

Also, question to those "in the know". I must admit that with the exception of watching Fantasia in her last weeks performances, I haven't watched American Idol since my total devotion to Kelly Clarkson in Season One and Clay Aiken in Season Two. So I am wondering when they switched to having an even division of women and men? And will they have a wild card "bring back"? or is that no longer done? I wish wish wish they could have kept more women than men, since the women are so very much stronger this year.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 4:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I think the top 12 get to move into the official house and the official theatre and probably get more training/makeover advice. But of course the first two to go can't get that much out of it.

I think Antonella truly was one of the bottom 5, according to dialidol. I hate to say it but VFTW will probably be voting for Sanjaya now that Antonella and Sundance are history.

Anyway I was happy that Antonella left, not at all happy about Sundance going and Sanjaya staying and Haley staying and Sabrina going.. Sabrina was very talented. She also had an Orange County connection ..

Maris
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03-28-2002

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 4:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
At the end of the day you have to blame Randy, Paula and Simon. They say it is a singing competition now but when they do the auditions, and decide on the final 24 it is about looks, voice and what will appeal to tweens as well.

Maybe this is a lesson learned for them, be careful who you pick for the final 24 because we could be stuck with this guy for weeks

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 6:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buggles a private message Print Post    
Maris, I so agree with you. I just knew during auditions that they would put Sanjaya through based on his looks, regardless of how well he sang.

You can usually guess when the semi finalists sit in that chair to hear whether they made the top 24 who is going through based on their looks and charisma.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 7:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I was wondering that Maris... wondering if those three (Simon, Paula, Randy) may start to rethink who they bring in to the final 24. The past couple of years, there've been truly better singers that were eliminated because another person somehow managed to capture the pity or kid votes (Kevin and Sanjaya, definitely). And then they have to live with those people on the show. All of them looked stunned that Sabrina and Sundance left last night, and I heartily agree with that feeling!

OTOH, I am so frickin' GLAD that Antonella is finally gone! I truly didn't think she was all that cute, and I truly didn't like her attitude (which also made her seem less cute to me). And thank heavens we no longer have to listen to her try to sing! Yay!

I really wanted Sundance to go further. He so totally impressed me during his first audition, and I think he's got a lot of potential. Unfortunately, he got whacked by the Sanjaya Surprise. (And really, Sanjaya deserved to go.)

On the plus side, now I can hope that Sanjaya goes next week, and Haley immediately follows. Except for Brandon, of whom I'm not really a fan, I'd be happy with the final 10.

Of course, Melinda and LaKisha are gonna be F2, so really, the others should just book a ticket and head on home! <snicker>

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 7:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
Sabrina is the only surprise boot for me.

I would have thought for sure that Stephanie would go b/4 her.

Haley just plain looked good Wed. night. She doesn't have a big power voice but she does sing in tune for the most part.

I'm glad to see Sundance go - I just couldn't warm up to him after he got the free ride in Hollywood - I mean, the guy <77> totally the whole process & because of his pedigree they kept giving him another & another & another chance - - - -he should have never made top 24 IMO.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 7:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I think they decided to split between the men and the women when one year there was a decidedly strong percentage of one or the other (but I don't remember enough to remember which it was -- perhaps in Fantasia's year -- was that when there were such weak men?). And they haven't had a wild card in years so I doubt (unless there is somebody so exceptional that they expect to win doesn't get in) that they will do that again.

They no longer live in a house -- or at least they haven't for the last year or so. They are all in hotel rooms.

And I'm sure the reason that they emphasize top 12 is that makes the number of weeks they can milk viewers for ratings to get them to sweeps evens out. Can you tell I'm a little cynical?

Lateeda
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12-01-2006

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lateeda a private message Print Post    
I'd have liked Sundance to stay. I was waiting for him to tackle a Meatloaf song and just *nail* it. He has Meatloaf's mannerisms, even how he holds the mic... He could have done "Two out of Three Ain't Bad" or "You Took the Words Right out of My Mouth"...I think he would have been great on those!

Lori
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04-18-2003

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori a private message Print Post    
Who is voting for Sanjaya and why? He can't sing (at least not well enough for AI). Teenage girls? Not to be mean, but I don't think he's the least bit good looking. Of course I'm a middle aged woman but I know a good looking young man when I see him!

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I'm happy with the results except for I thought Sanjaya should have gone before Jared.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 8:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
so many of these singers had great auditions and have sounded awful ever since, so i can't totally blame the judges. Sanjaya was good at his audition.

what is Sundance's pedigree?

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I agree that Sanjaya is out of his league...but I did feel bad for him last night when Paula was saying how terrible it was that Sundance was eliminated. She was going on and on, and then when she realized how it was sounding, she said "that doesn't take anything from you Sanjaya" ... but I think she had already made him feel terrible. If you look at his expression while Sundance was singing, I thought Sanjaya was going to cry

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 9:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think it's that there were so many gawdawful singers during the auditions, that anyone who sounded like they could sing halfway decently actually sounded good. Plus, based on what we saw of the auditions, there really DID seem to be a plethora of really bad singers and a scarcity of really good ones, this year. For some reason. So if you sounded like you might could carry a tune, you were put thru to Hollywood. Now, as to why they would make it after that, I dunno! Ask Paula, Simon, and Randy! :-)

Sundance is the son of Roy Head, who had a #1 single back in the 60's. So he grew up with a musical background and can play a bunch of different instruments (five, I think).

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
i am still not convinced that there were more bad singers, i think more bad singers were passed through to the judges. (but same result! LOL)

ok. i remember Roy Head.

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
We only see a small percent of the singers that audition. The judges don't see all of those folks. There are thousands who show up and I'm sure some good singers are passed up so that they can show some of the crazies to make good TV during the initial audition shows.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 10:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
I thought Sanjaya and Sundance both did very well at their auditions.

I felt bad for Sanjaya last night. I do think he should have been voted out already though. He does not perform as well as any of the others imo, Antonella included.

I thought Sabrina was great. She deserves to still be there.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ginger1218 a private message Print Post    
I think young teenage girls are voting for Sanjaya. They are a huge voting block, perhaps the largest

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 1:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
On Tuesday, everyone needs to take the batteries out of the kid's cell phones and hide them and slip Grandma a dose of Nyquil. That should take care of the Sanjaya demographic.

Zadeira
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10-03-2006

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zadeira a private message Print Post    
For the record, I am not a teeny bopper. I do think Sanjaya is cute....like a puppy. And I do like his singing. While not the most powerful singer, he stays in tune and has a sweet voice I enjoy listening to. I thought he was awesome in the auditions. I agree with Randy that he hasn't been singing as well as he did in the auditions. But he has been singing better than Antonella every week. Not nearly as many pitch problems. He needs more seasoning and some confidence (IOW, he's still young and has a ways to go before he is really ready for stardom....but I think he can do it).

As for Sundance going home...he may have sang well in his initial audition. But as someone pointed out, he really messed up during Hollywood week. And he sang poorly 2 out of the last 3 weeks. I don't know why Paula was shocked. I think it was because they knew he could do better. But when he doesn't bring his A game, what do you expect? I was not surprised to see him go.

I was very happy to see Jared go. He also had a lot of pitch problems. And the whole face mask thing just killed me!

A friend made a great comment about Haley's singing. She said she sounded like the girl that sang for Ariel! She should be in a Disney movie. I didn't think she was a bad singer....just not right for AI.

For Sabrina, while she has been consistently good, she wasn't that good this week. Neither was Stephanie or Haley. I think all 3 are better than Antonella. While I think Sabrina and Stephanie are better than Haley, after this week's performance I knew it could be any one of those three going home.

Overall, I stick by my opinion that there are only 8 singers out there that should be in the top 12. 5 of them are girls. And no, Sanjaya is not one of the 3 guys ;p

Crzndeb
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07-26-2004

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Crzndeb a private message Print Post    
Here's a little tidbit about auditioning...Of the thousands that show up, only 100-150 per city, get through to see the 3 judges. My daughter auditioned for Season 2, when she was attending a performing arts school in NYC, and got thru 1 producer, but not thru the 2nd. Her friend, who is an outstanding singer, and has toured with Cats, didn't make it thru the 1st round. Those were the days when they limited the number that could audition (daughter said it was between 1500-2000). They let bad singers thru to make a good TV. Some of the bad singers are well aware it is for entertainment, but who wouldn't want to be on TV for their 15mins of fame? In fact, now I think there are more that intentionally have a routine planned just to make it on TV (you see several of the same ones auditioning on different reality shows). Something to show the grandkids. The producers are also looking for a diverse group, therefore they pass up a lot of really great singers. It is also pretty common to have more girls that are great than guys...
Personally, I would prefer the great singers in this year's 12, not win. I think the exposure, will get them recording contracts, and they could negotiate on their own terms. And IMHO, I think the minumum age needs to be put back to 18.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 1:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
As long as AI allows unlimited votes by the public in the 2 hour window (i.e. 35 million from how many people?) this will happen. If this type of situation really concerns them, maybe they will change it next season. But, I doubt that will ever happen. They want to announce 35 million votes because it sounds like 35 million people were watching the program. All you have to do is compare the number of votes 'counted' for the final 2 with sales of the first album of the AI winner. They are getting less than 1% to actually purchase the cd. As I said, I doubt they will ever change it.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 1:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I have to disagree. In my opinion Sanjaya was out of tune a LOT! Sweet kid but should have been sent back for another year or two of seasoning.

Trini
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07-06-2004

Friday, March 09, 2007 - 2:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trini a private message Print Post    
Randy and Simon said last week:
The Sanjaya who auditioned that first day is not the same guy today; his voice does not have the "quality" they liked back then