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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 10:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
It could have been someone with a cellphone camera, someone who is not now a friend, for sure.

Of course it isn't the smartest thing to be so public about some things, just because you never know who has a camera these days

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 10:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
The problem is that Antonella is the choice of VFTW and that is why she came in second on dialidol to LaKisha. In fact it is quite the tribute to LaKisha that people voted for her in droves, to overcome VFTW, and in a BIG way too.

Antonella SHOULD be gone soon but it is going to take lots of people voting for others to nullify the VFTW people.

She needs to leave because she is one of the weakest singers. I don't really care about her indiscretions so much.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 10:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
It's a different world now -- what with MySpace, Girls Gone Wild, camera phones, etc. Younger people are into broadcasting themselves among their peers/friends. Unfortuanately our culture seems to reward the most outlandish, most provocative, etc...

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 10:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
True that.. well seeing the pics in question she certainly does seem to be aware of the camera in a couple of them...

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 11:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
I guess I'm just weird. I still don't see it as a big deal that she was doing those things or that she was doing it while photos were taken. I see it as a bigger deal that someone she apparently trusted enough to be intimate with would be posting those pics all over the internet.

I really don't care what they've done in the past as long as they haven't hurt anyone and don't think it should have anything to do with rather they go home or not. As far as talent goes, she's out of her league and that alone should get her sent home though it looks like she'll be around for awhile.

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 5:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buggles a private message Print Post    
I feel so sorry for Antonella when I think of her parents seeing these headlines and maybe even taking a look at the pics! And her siblings (if she has them), neighbors, relatives, and people she's gone to school with... this is just hugely embarrassing.

I can't believe she was #2 on dial idol! VFTW is out of control. I think AI needs to limit the number of votes from each phone number, as other shows have done. I suspect the reason they don't is because all of those votes are a testament to its popularity. Perhaps if the # votes starts declining they will adopt that approach.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 7:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The thing is, I would never trust anyone to take those kinds of pictures (and I'm not talking about the GGW pix). IF I were gonna allow those pix to be taken, I'd be danged sure I had the photos and the negs. As I said, when you do something stoopid, and then you try to become famous, people will try to take you down. She quite clearly looked into the camera, I don't think she could claim she didn't know she was being filmed/photographed.

I don't care what someone does in private. But when that someone does something that is not private any more (and posing for pix kinda precludes privacy, don't ya think?), then they are fair game. So yeah, I kinda feel sorry for her. She was young and she did some dumb things (including what looked like underage drinking). But that's when you step up to the plate, admit you were young and dumb, and accept responsibility for your actions.

I agree Buggles... I think AI likes to brag about the number of votes they got. As if that's vindication of the show or something. But when you stop and think, really, it's not 32 million PEOPLE who voted. It's probably only 2 million!!!

I thought VFTW.com was funny when I first heard about it. But then when that chicken little kid (what WAS his name?) kept going thru each round, while others who actually did sing better were let go, I sorta thought it wasn't funny any more. It smacks of vote-fixing, and isn't that kinda wrong?

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 8:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buggles a private message Print Post    
Costa I do agree with you.

Admittedly I have some pics and videotape from when I was around 20 that are pretty compromising. Those pics of Antonella could have been any of my friends at that age.

I am trying to imagine what she was thinking when some of these were taken. Like the toilet one, she was probably inebriated and it was probably a silly thing that happened in a flash and I'm sure she NEVER would have dreamed that the whole world would some day see it. <cringe>

After seeing so much of this in the media in recent years, I would never willingly allow myself to be photographed in a compromising position again.

It was pretty evil that her 'friend(s)' did this to her, but unfortunately not surprising.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 9:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
What is VFTW???

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 9:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I don't know what it's like in the U.S., but in Canada a lot of partying goes on at Universities for example and I'm sure there are a lot of people with stuff floating around that would make them cringe if it got out.

It may be dumb, but it happens all the time.

I agree with War that it is sad that someone would publish this stuff but it's a crappy mean world out there at times and she is probably learning that right now.

On the plus side, does anyone here think that the other AI contestants have never had sex? Assuming we think that is okay, the only difference here is that there are pictures of it - which she didn't publish.

VFTW = Vote for the Worst, which is a website that someone set up to annoy AI by encouraging people to vote for the person that they presume is the worst contestant. I don't think it has the influence that other people here seem to but that is hard to measure.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
votefortheworst.com

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 9:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, Wargod...you just have to realize that we are really just a bunch of prudes. Nowhere near as progressive as you




Mocha
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08-12-2001

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Frankly I could care less who she's blowing lol. None of my business. <shrug>

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 11:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
I think it is fair to say that not only do they want someone who sings well (has talent), but they also want someone who can/will project a certain image. Simon always seems to focus more on image and the marketing aspects of a good singer. It's a lot harder to build up someone as a "complete AI package" when there is this kind of baggage.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I enjoy a bit of scandal in my reality shows :-) These people knew their personal lives would be turned inside out if they made it to the air.

and I agree Auntiemike with your whole last post. There is no way Antonella can fit the marketing image of an "American Idol" after all this.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 12:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
it looks like the sex act pictures have been outed as phonier than a 3-dollar bill (apparently the ears are different on the explicit ones compared to the legit ones)

Naja
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06-28-2003

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 12:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I saw those this morning. It didn't disprove anything. I wasn't convinced at all. They proved it WAS her ears in my eyes. The lighting and angle forced the shadows to portray a different shape. Look really close at them, especially the actual edges of the inner ear, rather than the outer ridge. The counter images proved more that it IS her.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
The supposed "proof" it's not her.

http://www.votefortheworst.com/files/u3/fakepics.jpg


Better proof it is her (scroll down a bit for an edge enhanced photo)
http://www.votefortheworst.com/forum/topic1404-940.html

Naja
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06-28-2003

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 1:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
LOL, my dear friend said I sounded like fanatic in my posts just now. I didn't mean to. I am sorry Wilsonatmd for coming across a little harsh. I consider this all fun and I hope you can rewrite the wording of my last 2 posts in your mind so I seem nicer. I passed the time limit to edit them myself. In my own mind I was talking in a fun conversational tone. Like I said, I love AI with scandal, but then again I do believe in truth and that's why I posted the replies.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 4:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
the 4 voted out last wk were never going to make it to top 12 anyway.....so I'm ready to get rid of 4 more that shouldn't make it either.

based on last wk only, there are clearly a good 4 more men (realy more IMO) that easly need removed b/4 top 12. The women however, are a bigger mystery - if VFTW has their way, we'll see the worst girl of the whole 12 make top 6 women. That's a shame because she'll get the spot of someone really more talented.

Oh well, I've always thought that someone that should make top 12 ends up going home but I've never thought those that get top 12 for other reasons other than talent ever get very far after they get down to the real deal. So I guess it really doesn't matter.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 4:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I assume when you say "worst girl of the whole 12 make top 6 women" you are referring to Antonella? I agree that she is clearly not the best of the bunch and not even top six, but it's not clear to me that she is the worst girl of the whole bunch.

But you are right that as far as winning goes it is probably a moot point anyway, as it is for the majority of the top 24 contestants.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 5:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
Sorry - but IMO Antonella was the worst girl last wk. There was another that was right there with her though & she's still there too.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 5:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
No need to be sorry. We all see and hear things differently. Anyway, it's not like I think she should win.

It will be interesting to see if any of this stuff affects her performance this week (assuming she does perform).

Naja
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06-28-2003

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 5:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, things are getting weird. I mean Nigel was scheduled for a Friday interview at tvweek and it never happened. His weekly interview that always showed like clockwork! It's making me suspicious something not so nice is going down when the exec producer doesn't show for his weekly interviews. It was advertised as being ready for download on Friday, at 4:30 PM...Never happened.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 5:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm sure everyone involved is tearing their hair out over this whole thing.