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Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 6:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hobbs a private message Print Post    
It was said that Katharine McPhee snuck out at night to see her boyfriend often.

Jedisan
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01-11-2002

Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jedisan a private message Print Post    
any spoilers yet on song choice for tonights show?

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I heard that Chris and Lauren were dating too...apparently they were at Duni or LaDune (or whatever the heck Boogie's trendy restaurant is named -- can y'all believe I can't remember it?) last night. Sounds like a publicity stunt to me.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 3:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Just a couple of opinions on the lawsuits discussed earlier.

My son is an attorney and he says he never takes lawsuits unless they are justified and has a chance to win simply because he can't afford to take a case on a contigency basis, (which most are), spend all the money on it and then not get paid.

He also says the biggest problem in frivilous lawsuits is the judges. They should throw them out on merit, not take them to trial. The judges are afraid to rule on a lot of them because they don't want to be seen as the friend of big business and against the little guy.

And as far as the lady who was burned by the McD coffee, yes she was foolish to put it where she did, but that lady had third degree burns that required plastic surgery. And MCD had been cited several times for the temp of their coffee. That side is seldom heard. No coffee should be hot enough to cause third degree burns, even there.

Donut
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07-31-2001

Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 3:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Donut a private message Print Post    
worlds colliding! AI's at the BB bar. Did Blake and Boogie take a pic together so they can do the next BB twins show?

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    


Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 6:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hobbs a private message Print Post    
I just saw an article where Ricky Minor (the AI band leader) said Sanjaya CAN sing and will probably win. The AI backpeddling begins. Maris, you called it!

ETA: I removed the link because it was so long and messed up the screen. It was in Reuters.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
GMA is gonna be talking about computer speed dialing (can you say dialidol.com?) and how it may be affecting the votes this season. It's only been on for a half hour, and there ain't much on the GMA web site about it... If I catch more I'll post it here.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Smokey that is hysterical.

Now if vote for the worst had any cojones at all they would team up with Howard Stern, switch it up and announce that they wanted everyone to vote for Lakisha. Leaving AI and Sanjaya swinging.

Wink
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10-06-2000

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 9:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wink a private message Print Post    
Maris what a wonderful idea. Lakisha or Jordin. You're in New York. Get on the horn to Howard please.

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hobbs a private message Print Post    
Naja, if you see a spoiler about the true vote totals this week, please post it. I found it very interesting.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Is this the link you mean?

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3033528

It seems hard to believe that if a computer can vote 1200 times a minute compared to an avid voter, who calls maybe 30 times max a minute, that the influence of the computers doesn't have much of an effect on votes.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
How could a computer make 1200 calls a minute without hundreds of multiple phone lines? Even with auto-dialing I would think it could only get in a double digit number of calls per line per minute? It would have to dial, ring, answer, hang-up.

Rvon
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12-11-2003

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rvon a private message Print Post    
If Ricky Minor says Sanjaya can "really sing", I wish the heck he would just belt one out of the park so we can all agree that he can really sing. So far, he has been less than mediocre which, to me, has been a waste of time.

He comes from my town and their are two administrators in my school who have heard him sing and they both say he has a great voice.

All that he has shown me is he has a nice voice, but not a great voice. At least he has not shown me this great voice yet.

Is this all part of the AI strategy? Are they just downplaying his singing as much as possible until near the end? At this point, I would not put anything past AI. Their credibility has slipped a few notches with me this year.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
I'm not that techie savvy, but I'm wondering the same thing, Jimmer. If you only have one or two phone lines how is it possible to get that many in a minute? I know with mine you have to wait a few seconds between hanging up and redialing or you just get dead air.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Your computer can dial, disconnect the call, and redial faster than your human hands can. I dunno how they get 1200 calls a minute.

I do know that if people ARE using DialIdol, then two things:

1. The results are skewed. Period.
2. Their predictions are skewed. They could be creating their own busy signals, yes?

And Kitt, yeah, that was the article. I was hoping they'd air more, but it was pretty much word for word.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
The results are only slightly skewed if one assumes that Dial Idol users would be equally dedicated to manually dialing for their favorite contestant. Dial Idol can only dial as fast as FOX will accept the calls. So it might be a little faster than manual.

I think that Dial Idol independently assesses the attempts of its user base and the general busy signals.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Yeah, thinking about it the 1200 calls a minute doesn't make sense, even if you do get your call through it rings for a second or more before the call is picked up.

I've been looking at the DialIdol forums recently, and lot of people have been saying that they rarely get a busy tone anymore, they mostly either get an answer or they get that "all lines are busy" voiceover thing. They know this because DialIdol measures the ratio of busy signals to non-busy signals, so anything that isn't a busy signal (i.e. actual counted votes AND the non-votes when they get the "all lines are busy" thing) count as a vote. I wonder if Fox worked with the phone people to manufacture that change this season, and it either has something to do with them attempting to stop DialIdol's effectiveness (it was very accurate last season) or is something to do with using computer calls.

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hobbs a private message Print Post    
Kitt makes a great point. I bet they added a huge amount of incoming phone abilities to stop the busy signals. I sure would think they did it to screw with DialIdol. Last year we pretty much knew the results before the show. AI didn't like that. The "all lines are busy" is usually the local phone system overloading and not the AI answering system.

I wonder how dialidol interprets the "all lines are busy." If they call it a busy signal then the results are false because it is the calls to all the AI numbers that is overloading the local systems. Not just the calls to the individual's number. I bet that's what has happened to dialidol this year.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 1:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That seems like a pretty good hypothesis to me! If so, then Dial Idol has done everyone a favor by forcing AI to add extra capacity, though local limitations on phone usage still come into play.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 3:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Dialidol interprets "all lines are busy" as a vote. It specifically looks for the beeep beeep beeep busy tone and if it doesn't get that it counts the call as a vote - resulting in the ratio of "successful" calls to busy signals being too high (i.e. it would appear the contestant is less popular than they are).

Trini
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07-06-2004

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 5:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trini a private message Print Post    
Sorry! The philosophy to AI is vote for your favorite that is all.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 6:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
But most people don't think to use a phone phreaking program to speed dial 1000 times. Most people are honest and really do dial 10 times or whatever to call their favorites.

Smartypants
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03-09-2007

Friday, April 13, 2007 - 6:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smartypants a private message Print Post    
has anyone else heard the story that whether sanjaya wins or not he stands to make about 15 mil within the next year?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, April 13, 2007 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
What "story"? And for gawd's sake, how?