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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 8:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Oh please. This country is lawsuit happy. I got hit by a car (I was a pedestrian). I was injured pretty badly although nothing was broken. I did not sue, did not ask for any "damages", and didn't even ask for medical expenses (because my own medical insurance covered the costs). Give me a break.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Well, I sued the pharmacuetical company that made the drug that caused my infertility and won. And I am glad I did! Call me lawsuit happy or not, but I would do it again. It was the principal and I wanted them to made accountable for what they did.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
It's not legitimate lawsuits that are the problem.It's lame lawsuits against sites like VFTW because they are lobbying for Sanjaya.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
It's the lawsuits like that McDonald's lawsuit that make me crazy. The people that cause companies to spend extra money to make and attach labels like "don't use hair dryer in the tub or shower" or "caution, contents may be hot" on a cup of coffee or other drink that is supposed to be hot. Sheesh, I know common sense is very uncommon these days, but when companies have to have idiot labels on everything so they won't be sued if some idiot does something stupid, then something is wrong.

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 10:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
Lady ITA with you. I sometimes wonder how that lady found her way to McDonald's if she didn't even know the coffee was hot!

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ginger1218 a private message Print Post    
I understand that the woman was burnt, but that is a risk you take when drinking "hot" coffee. If you wanted coffee that was not hot, drink iced coffee. I don't get that.

Madelane
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08-20-2001

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Madelane a private message Print Post    
It sounds like none of you clicked on the link that Ritsin provided and read the facts. McDonalds knew that their coffee was at least 20 degrees hotter than other coffees and that people had been complaining of injuries. The drive through person put the lid on wrong and this woman was permanently harmed. At least click on the link and read the facts before you judge her and others.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 2:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
At least ask if we clicked on the link before you judge us. I read the link, and I still think that when you go through the drive thru and get 'hot' coffee, you don't drive with the cup between your legs.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I clicked the link and the facts of the case were interesting; particularly the fact that McDonalds knew their coffee was 20 degrees hotter than the usual.

I feel sorry for the woman. McDonalds may have been wrong to make their coffee so hot (but then again customers like hot coffee). However, I still know better than to spill a hot cup of coffee between my legs.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 3:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
It sounds like you are accusing us of NOT clicking the link, when I think most of us DID.

Whether McDonald's coffee was hotter than "normal" or not... even *I* know better than to put a cup of hot ANYTHING between my legs, while sitting in a car (not the most stable environment to begin with). Common sense goes a long way towards ensuring longevity in the gene pool.

Please do not accuse me of not "reading the facts". I read the facts.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 4:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
McDonolds will no longer let drive thru customers fix(add cream and sugar)their own coffee.The lids are pretty secure when handed to the customers.After you get your cup you are to use your own judgement.

Cruzlvr
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11-13-2003

Monday, April 02, 2007 - 4:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cruzlvr a private message Print Post    
Here is another link to the McDonald's coffee suit that you might find interesting to read (it takes it from a different point of view and one I agree with) (Sorry I don't know how to do the link thing)
http://www.overlawyered.com/2003/12/mcdonalds_coffee_revisited.html

I can remember that in the 70's when the fashion for shoes was those stilletto high heels (that were probably a good 5-7 inches high, if not more. Locally, we had a gal that sued a shoe company because she was walking down the street in them and when she went to step down off a curb, tripped and fell and broke her ankle. She sued the shoe company because "they should have known that making shoes like this could be dangerous to someone wearing them". When this suit came out in the news we all had a good laugh(I work in a law office). Well guess what, she won her suit! That suit is still brought up today sometimes and we still all shake our heads in wonderment at how she won. No one forced her to buy the shoes, no one forced her to wear them and common sense dictates that if you choose to wear something like that, you should do so at your own risk. But I guess a jury didn't agree. LOL

Now I feel very sorry for this lady who suffered from those burns, but agree that the issue should not have been how much hotter McDonald's serve their coffee but who was a fault that the coffee got spilled on her. Did an employee of McDonald's spill the coffee on her? Was she handed the cup of coffee and then it spilled on her because the lid wasn't on right? If I was going to put a drink in my lap while driving (whether it be hot or cold), common sense says I would make darn sure the lid or cap was on right or tight.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Monday, April 02, 2007 - 5:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ginger1218 a private message Print Post    
I also think it is insane for smokers to sue the tobacco companies. Perhaps 30 years ago, they could have. But now, no way. I smoked for many years and I knew what I was doing. I stopped thank goodness almost 12 years ago, but my cousin didn't and she has lung cancer. Do I think she has reason to sue? No way, this is her doing.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Monday, April 02, 2007 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
I actually really like that McDonalds adds the cream and sugar now. It makes me feel unexpectedly pampered. Hey, Starbucks makes you add your own stuff and they charge the big bucks for the coffee!

With regard to the frivolous lawsuits - even if people try to bring ridiculous lawsuits to court, the plaintiffs do not have to be rewarded. The judge has the option to not hear the case. And even if they are heard, the judge or jury, depending on the court that it is brought to, has the opportunity to side with the defendent if they think that is appropriate. The people who are in the courtroom either already know (the judge) or are informed (the jury) of the relevant laws and get a chance to see all the evidence from both sides before coming to a decision. So for my money, they are probably in a better position to make a good decision than I am after hearing a 15 second sound bite on TV designed by the media to get a reaction out of me.

That being said, the cost of all this court activity is enormous, and is a shared cost by the taxpayer and insurance holders. It also affects businesses that provide pay to people called for jury duty. I have an employee who was selected in January to be a Grand Jury Foreman - I am not entirely clear on what that means, but what I do know is that this employee is going to be out a minimum of three days per month (at least 36 days this year). This is someone who makes $57.50 per hour at a total cost of over $16,500 for missed time this year for jury duty (not even counting all the employment taxes, lost profit dollars, etc.). So it gets to be very expensive for everyone.

Sugar
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08-15-2000

Monday, April 02, 2007 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sugar a private message Print Post    
Hey Alison, I need a job and have not been called for any jury duty. I am as free as a bird to accept employment.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, April 02, 2007 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I dunno about elsewhere, but here in San Diego, you volunteer to be on the grand jury, by submitting an application, and then are selected during the vetting process. It is not a random selection of the population (from voter or DMV registrations). Also, the amount of time that could be required is up to 32 hours per week. Did your grand jury foreman volunteer to be selected?

Justalittlebean
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08-15-2003

Monday, April 02, 2007 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Justalittlebean a private message Print Post    
No Talent, No Problem for Sanjaya
Posted Apr 1st 2007 3:01AM by TMZ Staff



Just because "American Idol" contestant Sanjaya Malakar isn't the strongest singer on the show, it doesn't mean he won't have a career ... so says a music insider to TMZ.

Stuart Meyer is an A&R rep for Sub Pop Records -- home to early Nirvana and The Shins, and just happens to be based in Sanjaya's hometown, Seattle. Meyer says that actually being able to sing is just one quality a pop star needs to have. "He has a charm about him that is key to being a pop star," Meyer says. "Some of the biggest pop stars, like Madonna and Britney, aren't exactly the best singers." Word.

Meyer added that he thinks Sanjaya has "a bright future ahead," saying, "I'm sure someone will sign him, he has personality."

No matter what you think of Sanjaya's so-called voice, Meyer says he does have a leg-up on a lot of other pop stars. "You have to give him credit for getting out there and singing live; a lot of the biggest pop stars out there today rarely do that." Um, Ashlee Simpson anyone?

I agree with this article because I think that Kellie Pickler will do just as good as Carrie Underwood or even better in the long run. Kellie seems to have a really perky personality and every time I have seen Carrie, her personality is rather dull.






Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, April 02, 2007 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Cost, that's how it's done here too.
My mom served on a Grand Jury once. She didn't have to wait too long to be approved cause she knew some judges.

Shel
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07-27-2005

Monday, April 02, 2007 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shel a private message Print Post    
Willie Nelson made a half century career out of not being able to sing and always singing too fast or too slow (a la Chris S). lol. I love Willie, btw.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, April 02, 2007 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
what??!!! Willie can't sing??????

Shel
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07-27-2005

Monday, April 02, 2007 - 12:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shel a private message Print Post    
Not really. He admits he's tone deaf and has no rhythem. Doesn't really matter though, does it? He's still great. :-)

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, April 02, 2007 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Kris Kristofferson can't sing either, but they are both amazing poets/songwriters. (And Kris was a major hottie in his day!)

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, April 02, 2007 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I like Kris Kristoffersons voice. Janis Joplin was in love with him (a little trivia)

Kizz
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07-26-2001

Monday, April 02, 2007 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kizz a private message Print Post    
I was on a jury for a suit that a woman brought against a college girl who caused a car accident where the woman broke her ankle and suffered some other minor injuries. We were never told directly, but it seemed as though there had been an attempt to make an out of court settlement, but the woman decided to take it to court. The basis for the suit was that she said she traveled with her husband on some overseas business trips and she was no longer able to walk long distances. She was also seeking compensation for "loss of consortium" (yeesh). Long story short, it came out during testimony that the woman had blown off therapy on several occasions. She got the wrong jury with us because we all agreed in deliberations that litigiousness had gone off the rails. We came back with a judgement that, by the look on the woman's face, was FAR less than she could have received had she settled.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, April 02, 2007 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
And I was on a jury where a woman had some property damaged by water from another unit. This woman didn't use common sense, allowed her belongings to sit in water, and contacted an attorney before contacting a doctor when she "fell" and "hurt her knee." About 2/3 of us on the jury thought they were out for all they could get (her attorney was asking for a total of $4M). We couldn't agree, so we basically threw darts (not quite, but we did work it down till we all agreed). I think we agreed to give her a few thousand dollars, mostly as a gesture. And, of course, I snickered, because I believe her attorney was working based on a percentage of settlement and, IIRC, he probably ended up with about $2K (for months and months of work).