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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 6:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think Ryan needs to quit ad-libbing half the time. I think Simon was spot on (finally!) with his criticism for Sanjaya (and Chris, too, actually). I've not been a huge Ryan fan anyways, and I'm so over the "he said he said" schtick he pulls with Simon, but that was completely ridiculous to call Simon out on that. It's got nothing to do with liking; it's got a lot to do with ability, though. Or lack thereof!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 6:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Check out this pic at Maxim and tell me what gender "it" is.

Wink
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10-06-2000

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wink a private message Print Post    
Maris I totally agree with your comments on Simon/Ryan. I know Ryan and Simon have their ongoing schtick to play up the so-called tension between them but to try an end run around Simon at this juncture of the competition to me is just plain whacked.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I liked Randy and Simon telling it like it is with Sanjaya. Although in the past I have liked Sanjaya more than most people, he wasn't very good tonight and seems to be becoming a bit of a caricature. Ryan probably should have stayed out of it. I also agreed with the judges' comments about Chris.

The rest of the contestants were pretty mediocre tonight, with the exception of Jordin and Melinda.

Finally I can say YAY YAY YAY to Melinda!!! She sang great (of course) but tonight she finally started to pull it all together with a more flattering outfit, good stage presence and finally more confidence. I think Simon did her a big favor with his comments that she should stop looking surprised at how good they think she is. I am very happy that she is showing some growth in these other areas as her vocal talent is outstanding.

Jordin was great again. I loved the song, her vocals are great, her overall performance was great and she has a wonderful fun approach. She was the highlight of the night for me.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
My take is that Lakisha and Melinda both were out of their element and tried to turn country songs into bluesy songs...which is their element. Not that they sounded bad, but it didn't sound quite right to me.

My take on Simon's remark to Melinda about dropping the surprise...heh...I think I seen Melinda smirk in a "they're on to me" kind of way. ..which in turn made me think "toldja so".

Performance of the night: Jordin

Phil did alright.

Chris has got to go...then Sanjaya...then Blake.

And isn't the whole premise of "let's give them something to talk about" a woman singing to a man?

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 8:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Unfortunately, Sanjaya will probably pick up more votes because of the tirad.

Jordin was amazing.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
LOL, Maris, my daughter's been saying that Sanjaya is a Michael Jackson wanna be, too.

I have to say, he does make me laugh, but he does need to go. However, they had Macy Gray on Dancing and, OMG, I think she's even worse than Sanjaya.

Why did so many of the women have such awful outfits? The plastic pumpkin dress, the crinkly gold boots...

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 8:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
uh no, Macy is nowhere near as bad as Sanjaya

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
Macy is from here, where I live.

Weird show, in many ways. I just am not feeling anything much for any of them. I want so much to be for someone.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 9:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
As a publicist, I can guess exactly why Simon threw in the line about Tech and it's what Maris said.

When Chris said what he said, Simon rolled his eyes. Now I believe he rolled his eyes at the TIMING of Chris saying that (just as he was having a disagreement about the merit of his nasalness LOL). Sorta like Phil saying he was just thinking about his wife a few weeks ago.

However, I guarantee that during the very next break the very edgy publicists/producers told Simon he had to say something because that eye roll could be interpreted by the public as rolling his eyes at the tragedy itself.

Saxywildcat
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05-30-2005

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 9:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saxywildcat a private message Print Post    
Sanjaya needs to go. He HAS to. It's just ridiculous.

Jordin did do great. I was disappointed with LaKisha, but I still love her! Melinda still did well. Country is difficult for everyone to do perfectly. Oh yeah, i thought Phil did great too. If DialIdol has it right, then Phil is the top vote getter and Sanjaya will go home. I sure hope they have the bottom right.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 9:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
Regarding Ryan undercutting Simon wrt Sanjaya.....

If you look closely at the audience right after Simon's comments.... AI co exec producer Nigel Lithgow shook his head 'Nooooo' and I think even booed Simon. I am guessing that Ryan may have noticed this.

I don't think Ryan was intentionally trying to create drama or make Simon look bad. I think he just acted impulsively out of concern for Sanjaya.

I felt for Simon getting attacked, but part of me also admired Ryan for coming to Sanjaya's defense as I also thought that Simon's comments were overly cruel.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 9:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I'm listening to Macy right now.. please, she's NO Sanjaya.

Ryan was ridiculous (more than usual) tonight.

LOVED Jordin, Melinda and Phil tonight. Phil seems safe, so voting for Jordin on merit and Melinda and especially LaKisha seem to be in trouble.,
Cannot for the life of me see why Chris wouldn't be in trouble, bleh.

Frankly I thought it was clear that Simon was rolling eyes at Chris' ridiculous crap about nasally being a style and I thought he made a good point about it having been a tough (tricky) week for the singers because of the shootings.



Sanjaya trying to be Bonnie Raitt? Please!

I thought he looked a bit like a cross between Screech and Carrottop with a bandana.

Also thought this would have been a good time for Phil to wear a cowboy hat.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 9:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Oh yeah, what Yankee said, not just the nasally is a style but then the timing of the remark, just in time to pull in sympathy votes.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 9:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Heck, I though Simon's comments were spot on and honest. Sanjaya has been treating this gig, with his comments, as a joke, not to mention the joke of his singing styles, hairstyles, and so on.

Oh and it was interesting that after all the camera mugging Sanjaya's been doing that the camera panned to Constantine, mugging the camera, right before Sanjaya was up. LOL!

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 9:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
My order is: Melinda, Jordin and Blake.

Spinnaker
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07-07-2005

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 3:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spinnaker a private message Print Post    
I'm going to give Simon the benefit of the doubt that it was only his timing that was bad when he rolled him eyes during Chris' comments on Virginia Tech. Having grown up in Virginia, near Chris' hometown, I know the extra impact it's having on Virginians. The whole nation is shocked and saddened, but most Virginians have friends, children, relatives, etc. that are attending or have attended Virginia Tech - it's just one of the schools that a great percentage of Virginia students attend. I'm a Tech alum ('82), and actually lived on the fourth floor of West AJ where the first shootings occurred. My niece and nephew are engineering students there and I spent the greater part of the day Thursday trying to get in touch with them to make sure they were okay. It is all very surreal and Thursday was the worst day I've experienced since 911.

So I fully understand the impact it is likely having on Chris and why he teared up when speaking about it last night. He's only 22 and I'm sure he has close friends at Tech.

On a lighter note, I'm not sure it this has been posted before, but I came across this footage of Simon as a game show contestant in the 90's:

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Spinnaker
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07-07-2005

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 4:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spinnaker a private message Print Post    
Whoops - I meant Monday - my days are all running together!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 6:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Oh good gawd! If Sanjaya doesn't go after this week's performance, then something is seriously wrong. That was absolutely the worst I've heard, the worst song choice, and he totally butchered it. He even ended up SPEAKING parts of it (after he wandered around the audience). And to make a joke of why he picked that song? The song is about a woman and man giving people something to talk about (<gasp> are they or aren't they?). She's teasing him into being with her. Sanjaya has no freaking clue, and that just gawdawful.

Second worst was Chris. "Nasal" is a style? Um, I dunno where I've been, but I don't know of any style called "Nasal"? Is that like hip hop? Rap? Pop? AC? Those are styles. He's gotta go, too!

Melinda did an AWESOME job and she really looked great! As did Jordin. LaKisha is gonna struggle, and I bet she's in the bottom 3. Unfortunately.

I dunno about the stylists this year. They seem to be doing a crappy job, or are just checking in. In the past, by this time, you could tell that stylists were working with the contestants. They were LOOKING styled, and most of 'em looked better and better each week. This year, I'm still questioning whether the contestants are being styled or if they are picking their own clothes. I get the feeling that the only thing that's being done is hair and makeup.

About time Simon (and the rest) called Sanjaya out. Their comments were all correct and appropriate, and Ryan truly had no business jumping in there like that. I've never liked Ryan anyways, but that was just ridiculous. Simon was correct... they are looking for an American Idol. Presumably, an Idol who can sing. Not a joke. And Sanjaya is well and truly a joke now. (BTW, what was up with that kerchief?)

I think the F3 will be Melinda, Jordin, and Blake. Those three are the strongest singers and, I think, as others fall by the wayside, votes will go to them. Melinda has a beautiful voice, and we finally saw some personality. Jordin has a beautiful voice (and guts, to sing a Martina song right to her!) and lots of personality. I forget she's only 17 most of the time, she is so poised. And Blake is actually pretty decent (although last night wasn't one of his better performances).

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 6:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
I caught bits and pieces of the show last night, and unfortunately one of those bits was Sanjaya. He said he chose this song because people were already talking, and might as well "give them something to talk about"...ugh. I thought Martina looked surprised when he said that. My almost-8-year-old was watching with me, and I asked her if she thought he was cute. "ewww, mom" I told her quite a few young girls thought he was cute, and she said "then they can't see very well". When I asked her what she thought about his singing, she slapped her hands over her ears and said "he's making my ears bleed"...lol (Don't know where she gets it.) She agreed with me that Chris sounded like he was holding his nose (nasal) and she didn't like Blake either.
Does she have taste, or what? And if someone that young can tell the difference between on-key and off-key...I'll leave it at that.
Was glad to see Randy and Simon finally say what I've thought all along about Sanj & Chris...now if we could just slip some "Welcome to Reality" pills in Paula's cola.

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 7:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hobbs a private message Print Post    
The thing that got me about the show was the audience. It looked like Hollywood High School (if there is such a place) bussed in all the cheer leading squads. It was full of primpted (sp?) teenage girls.

About Simon's eye roll: When Chris made the comment about VA Tech, I felt he was trying to buy sympathy votes. I did not know he was from VA. My first thought was that he could even tear up on queue. I thought that Simon thought the same thing. Simon may seem like an ogre, but I don't think the shooting didn't affect him. You would have to be non-human.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 7:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I actually think that Simon is a bit of a softee. When he genuinely sees a contestant who is fragile, he doesnt attack them. I think he thought that Chris was going for the sympathy vote which is why he turned to the side and rolled his eyes. I dont think he expected it to be caught by the cameras.

I think that the problem also with Sanjaya is that there were reports a week or two back that he wasnt even practicing when the other contestants were practicing and he was putting very little effort into the competition which may also be why Randy, Simon and Paula have had enough. Paula was as critical as I have ever seen her, when she mentioned Sanjayas singing and just waved her hands, that is as bad a review as you are going to get from her.

I have a feeling we will have one more week of Sanjaya and then its going to be the voters backs up against the wall because only the good singers will be left after Chris is gone. He will have to go next week if he doesnt go this week.

That said,I am crossing my fingers that Watching is the high scorer in this weeks game :-)

Yoda
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08-11-2005

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yoda a private message Print Post    
The only thing I didn't like about Chris comment about VT was the timing...if I remember it right he and Simon were having a conversation about the so called Nasal Style of singing when out of the blue he gave the shout out. I think the shout out was okay (as Yoda gives her own shout out of prayers for all at VT) but the timing was not right.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 8:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think that is a good point Yoda. I was trying to think of what made me uncomfortable about it and more than anything it was the timing. It was sort of out of no where.

Now in fairness to Chris, that may not have been his intent, but the timing was unfortunate.

Yoda
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08-11-2005

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yoda a private message Print Post    
So do we think next season instead of Country week (since the judges don't like it) we might have a Nasal genre week? (LOL Yoda didn't know nasal was a style of singing either Simon)