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Kaylasmom
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07-27-2005

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 3:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaylasmom a private message Print Post    
I was rather disappointed with last night. The only standouts were Lakeisha, Jordin, and I liked what Blake did with the song. Every year, they tell the kiddies to make it their own and when they do...they come back and tell them they shouldn't mess with the song! What the heck is that?!

I liked Melinda in the beginning but there's something bothering me with her and I think it is how humble she is acting. Don't shoot me...I bought it several weeks ago. Now I think a lot of it is put on because that is who she is known as...the humble/who me? gal with the voice. Brandon was awful, Hayley was awful but because of the crying she will be kept, Sanjaya needs to go home but b/c of Brandon will stay at least anoter week, don't care for Chris R. and actually left the room when he came on, Stephanie and Gina are good but didn't wow me last night. Chris S. seemed very uncomfortable and Phil came out and left his nerves backtage! Good for him...I think it is the steel blue eyes that are bugging me about him. They are beautiful but .... Did I miss anyone?

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 4:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I think Lakeisha was wonderful last night. She has a powerful voice.

Kizz
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07-26-2001

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 4:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kizz a private message Print Post    
Boy it sure says something about us as a society when we are bothered by humble people, and when other people would deliberately try to mess with young mens's and woman's dreams for the "amusement" of embarrassing a 17 year old kid. I need a vacation.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 5:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Maybe we're just cynics.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 5:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I think if someone like Sanjaya wins, that will pretty much do it for American Idol. They have to change the voting, one vote per IP address and forget about the 35 million votes cast.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I really loved LaKisha, Melinda, and Jordin. I liked Gina and Blake. Chris S was OK. Not much impressed with Haley and Stephanie. But...

Sanjaya (please, just go now!), Brandon, Phil, Chris R... any of those four can go tomorrow and I won't mind at all.

Lori
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04-18-2003

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori a private message Print Post    

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Boy it sure says something about us as a society when we are bothered by humble people, and when other people would deliberately try to mess with young mens's and woman's dreams for the "amusement" of embarrassing a 17 year old kid. I need a vacation.


Kizz...I totally agree!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 7:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Yankee, I remember how nice his voice was during the audition too. He hasn't sung like that since.

Being a backup singer is WAY different than a lead. Very few backup singers in famous groups have gone on to a good solo career.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
About Sanjaya and his original audition... I think there is a world of difference singing a capella in an audition, and singing with a microphone and a backup band with backup singers. Although it's tough to sing without any backup, if you don't have a strong voice, it's gonna get lost behind the music and vocals, and the mic is just gonna amplify the worst of it. I think that's why Sanjaya sounded better during his audition (although honestly, I liked his sister better and was surprised she left in Hollywood while he stayed).

I'm trying to remember Hollywood, and who should've gone thru to the semis instead of Sanjaya. Were there really so few men who were halfway decent?

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I have a theory about why Sanjaya was picked over his sister and why Antonella was picked over her friend. The judges hate people who have been "trained". If you look at all past auditions and when people say that they have been doing voice training since they were four or whatever, they usually dont get picked or go far.

They like the idea of an untrained voice and so called "natural talent", which is interesting considering Brandon and Melinda made it to the finals because they are professional singers. I love Melinda and think she is awesome, will probably win this but American Idol should be won by someone who has not been on CDs, touring in concerts as a backup singer. I dont think it is fair and I think it goes against the spirit of the show.

Whatever happened to the idea of discovering an unknown

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 8:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Lakisha is the only one that had me calling in votes and I got thru 3 times before my phone was putting the letter P behind the number for her, what the heck is that?
2nd fav was Melinda and I would just like to say that my BS factor does not go off on her, she is the real deal in my opinion.
3rd for me was Gina followed by none of the others.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm inclined to agree that the spirit of the show is finding unknown and untrained talent and creating an "American Idol!". Of course, it all depends on your definition of unknown and untrained.

For example, Katharine's mother is a voice coach and Paris certainly had training. How about Chris and Taylor? Many of these contestants in prior years had a lot of experience singing in public.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 9:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think the judges have problems with some of the applicants who've said they have had voice training, yet don't really sound as if they did. There are also those who teach singing, and those are the ones who qualify for the "those who can do, those who can't teach" saying.

I think what they are looking for IS the next American "idol." Someone who is marketable, has personality, and oh, yeah, can sing! Many of the applicants have the first two, but fail miserably on the last.

I really do think they need to up the age limit. Unless they are looking for the next Teenage American Idol, I think the older singers generally sound better than the younger. Diana DiGarmo was a bit of an exception, but even then she was really young. I have a hard time listening to someone who can't even vote yet warble on about unrequited love, or feelin' hot and wantin' to knock boots. I think it's more believable when you get a singer who looks and sounds as if they really do FEEL what they are singing, and experience helps that.

There are obvious exceptions. How old is Jordin. Seventeen? Compare and contrast her with Sanjaya, who is the same age. Jordin puts real emotion into her songs, whereas Sanjaya does give me the impression that he's at a high school talent contest. I don't know if you can really learn stage presence... you've got IT or you don't.

So how's that for some random ramblings? <grin>

Justalittlebean
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08-15-2003

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 9:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Justalittlebean a private message Print Post    
The reason Taylor Hicks won was VFTW. They supported him from day one. Simon never did like him because of his gray hair.



Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I liked Taylor Hick and I am sure many others did also. I don't think he won just because of that site.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'd have to disagree. Taylor won because people loved his performances.

I think that the farther along the competition progresses, the more VFTW's impact gets diminished. They may affect early rounds but not later rounds.

Also, many of their contestants do not get enough votes to survive (e.g. Sundance, Antonella, etc.).

What they do is eventually they pick a contestant that they "claim" is the worst but that a lot of people genuinely like for various reasons. Then they can talk about how they delivered votes for the "bad" contestant, when they really didn't.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
My parents and grandmother, who are huge fans of the show, loved Taylor. They liked him more for his personality and the quirkiness of his performances, though, than his singing, I believe.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Do you know they Jimmer?

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Love Taylor, loved the way he performed, love the way he loved music, loved the way he looked.

I would have to be a mindless idiot to vote because an organization like VFTW told me to do so. What a stupid concept that is...but it doesn't surprise me that it exists and that people actually do it. There are many people who just like to tear other people down, and that is what VFTW does...I would hate to get further based on the fact that some arbitrary person who may or may not know anything about music decides I am pathetic and urges other people to vote for me. How depressing and pathetic is that?

Can you tell I resent the imposition that Taylor won only because of VFTW (and I really don't think that Taylor ever was a serious target of that organization anyway). To infer that many of us who voted for him because of that is an insult.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I don't know what you mean Mocha?

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, unlike BB think we are on the same Idol page! I fell in love with Taylor in the interviews. He was different, unique, and someone I felt that the "star machine" wouldn't give a chance to because he didn't fit the mold. Plus I almost always enjoyed him. I don't feel he got votes the same way Sanjaya, Chicken Little and other um lessor quality singers have. I think many embraced him and his talent.

I bought a ticket for an upcoming concert of Taylor's. It's in a large club and even thought it might kill me I think it may be the last change to see him in a setting like that. But that said, you know how few folks I actually pay to see lately?? I truly enjoy him and think he is very talented.

I still think out of all the folks they see there MUST be 12 or 24 high quality singers, not the marginal ones they toss in to get America talking, then they get annoyed when America votes for them. And I agree they need to change the voting. Limit it like Dancing With the Stars is my solution. Folks will feel like they dialed enough times to support someone but they can't have a computer do it enough to influence the vote.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Taylor hasn't done as well in selling records as previous winners. I know many of you loved him, but I just didn't see it. I think Simon may have disliked the gray hair because the AI is supposed to be young and Taylor, while not old, didn't look young.

Regarding, Sanjaya, they did let some of the better male singers go over him. It would serve them right if he won because of the weird voting. The producers need to find real people next year; not goofballs so they can have a reality show.

Sugar
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08-15-2000

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sugar a private message Print Post    
I believe that Kelly Clarkson was close to a record deal prior to winning AI. I don't recall it ever being said it was an amateur contest. It is a chance to showcase vocal talent, at least in its premise. Certainly every year there are contestents that make the final 12 to the amazement and utter dismay of many.

Anyone who meets the requirements set forth by the organization for this competition, auditions and goes forward for each "round" has the same chance to cull votes.

Personally, I think only 1 person who has won the AI title actully had the better voice in the competition. The show has jump started or furthered the careers of many people, some deserving IMO, some just diddly darn lucky that "reality" shows still call.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Jimmer I ask cuz you seemed to know so much about they lol.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
i hate vftw.

I feel bad for Sanjaya. He does seem so young (I know he is) and innocent. I wonder if he even knows info from the media and how many many people think he is the worst. When Ryan asked him if he thought he should be back next week, the way he said yes in such an excited-of course- manner really made me wonder if he truly thinks he's as good as his competition. Everyone sounds different in their own heads. Maybe he is clueless. You'd think he'd have some clue from the judges though. I wish he and we would be put out of our misery. I don't agree with others that his sister should have made it through and not Sanjaya. I thought his singing voice was better than his sister's from their auditions.

I like Blake best of the guys but didn't really like his voice that well last night. Chris S. always sounds good to me. I also recognized the Coldplay sounds. I am not a fan of Chris R., I don't think he has a great voice at all. I like how he performs, but his actual singing voice just does nothing for me. I thought Haley sounded better last night than she has since her audition (which I don't remember). She reminded me of K. McPhee also. I thought the back of the dress looked terrible though. Gina was ok, I was disappointed in Stephanie, I think she's a better singer than what we saw last night. I like Phil less every time I hear and see him. I think Brandon is OK but forgetting your lyrics is not good. I think Brandon is better than Phil. I didn't realize Haley had forgotten hers. I think Gina's tongue piercing may have interfered with her ability to pronounce each word clearly like Diana Ross wanted her to.

I was surprised that Simon called one of the songs boring. He specifically said something like "you picked a boring song"...I can't remember who he said it to. I wonder if D. Ross was offended by that.

In re: to the post(s) about Barry Manilow - it seems the kids do better when he is the coach. I agree that he really seems to try to help them. I also think that his songs are easier to sing than most of the others that have been on the show.

Melinda, Lakisha, and Jordin all sang really well last night. I loved listening to all of them. Jordin could be a disney princess. I am amazed that she is so young with that presence and voice!

Simon's whale comment was really weird.