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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 1:13 pm
I like Constantine a lot. I think he has talent and I was impressed at how he was willing to try new stuff. The other rocker (Bo) didn’t impress me. I try not to be judgmental about these things but there's something about Scott that makes me uncomfortable. I was happy they put him through initially but I’m not sure how far I really want to see him go. But I'll keep an open mind about it. All of the women seem pretty appealing. There doesn’t seem to be a huge amount of “attitude” which I can’t stand.
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Rabbit
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 1:21 pm
A friend of mine and I were discussing the show and he likes Bo. He stated that Bo might be the first male AI singer with a old fashioned rock "quality" to his voice. Huh, I says? You know a singer who can carry a tune but has an edgieness to his voice. Burton Cummings (Guess Who), Kenny Rodgers (Blood, Sweat and Tears days), Harry Chapin, Rod Stewart (an extreme example). I told him that I see his point but he is really aging himself. Anyone have some more contemporary examples of that edge?
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 2:23 pm
I think it's going to take just the right amount/balance of talent, humility and aggressiveness for anyone to make it to the end. I don't see Scott balanced in all these areas. He has a good voice but I don't sense a lot of humility in him. IMHO Now it will be interesting to see how the public responds to these semi-finalists.
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Kady
Member
07-30-2000
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 2:49 pm
There is so much talent in that group. I just can't pick a favorite yet. I will just have to judge their performances with each genre they are given. Of course, there will be a part of me that will be pulling for the Louisiana folks. I can't believe that 3 of the 24 are from my home state. 
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 3:03 pm
Scott has an emotionless quality to his facial expressions that I find just a tad bit creepy. He has a good voice, but he has to be really good for me to get past that. I'm a Constantine fan, too, primarily because he doesn't have the pretty boy sound. Actually, there are several unique voices in the men. Most of the women sound the same to me. As for the not shaking hands or hugging the judges, I think the room set up made that rather unwieldy. The "hot seat" was set back from the table the judges were behind, so there was no graceful way to get behind it to hud them or reach over it to shake their hands; the few that seemed awkward to me. But I'm with you on the pissy attitudes from the losers. My (least) favorite is the "I'm just as good as anyone else here" line. Not from what I heard...
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Mssilhouette
Member
07-11-2001
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 3:08 pm
I like the rockers too but we all know that Simon doesn't like them and we all know that since they promote POP songs only. We'll see if they make it. I think this year it's going to be guy, all the publicity i've ready gabbed on and on about the crop of guys. Which means that this year's winner is going to be a guy. And I don't think the guy will be of color. I think they're looking for another Clay or someone along those lines. But it won't be a rocker. The son of Ozzie Smith is for pub only, eventually he'll be dropped. As always, these are just my opinions and predictions. Somehow I don't think they're looking for another Fantasia or Ruben. They want a Kelly and Clay. We'll see how it all turns out...but I'm looking at the whole process with a raised cynical eyebrow. But at least I'm watching and that's all that really matters
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 4:01 pm
Pamy, I normally agree with you on most stuffage... but I have to tell you I'm really @#$!$%!$%^ off that Scott Savol made the final cut. I was so furious with him watching his actions during the group dealie, my fist almost went through the television screen. I am also being forced to self-moderate myself whenever I discuss him and that makes me even more !$%@%^@%^^^!$#!$% off.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 4:13 pm
LOL Lexie, I must admit I missed the group show, so I might feel differently if I had. What did he do? If it makes ya feel better, he is not my fav! lol Fran Streisand Michala is!!!!
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Snoopsmom
Member
02-19-2003
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 4:37 pm
I'm with you on your thoughts, Missilhouette. I think they are really going to push the tracheotomy kid. I think all the judges, producers, etc. have not really gotten over that they missed out on the biggest money making AI contestant, Clay. Nothing against Kelly, Ruben, or Fantasia as winners, but for all their negativity towards Clay they really missed the boat on his marketability.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 4:51 pm
My prediction, Constantine wins.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 5:24 pm
Did anyone catch when one of the "rocker dudes" was talking to the camera, saying he thought they'd only let one go through, he said, "two twenty-nine-year-olds......" and went on to list the rest of their similarities and why he thought only let one would go on. I thought the age limit was 28.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 5:34 pm
Simon was on Ellen and said his fav was the country girl.
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Katbee
Member
09-15-2001
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 5:36 pm
I caught that too, Whoami! I wonder if they let them both slide in because they weren't the stereotypical Idol contestants....or maybe they turned 29 sometime during the interim. Personally, I think they are both a breath of fresh air and hope at least one of the two goes the distance.
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Rabbit
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 5:38 pm
Three of the contestants have turned 29 and two are now 28.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 5:39 pm
You know it is usually Simon's favorite who wins. Remember he loved Ruben from day one.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 8:09 pm
Thats probably right (about the age thing). In my realm of drum corps, the cut off age for junior corps is 21. But if a member turns 22 during the season, they can still march and complete the season. So its probably the same sort of deal on AI.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 10:36 am
But then again Simon truly loved that blonde girl (Carmen?) who sounded like a goat braying when she sang and where is she now? I think it might be David Brown, or a David Brown type (and again I hope I got the name right). I don't see Scott making it far - he may have the voice of an angel but he has the face and body of a serial killer. I think he's a little creepy looking.
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Jan
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 11:55 am
Over the past few months I have heard Randy on one TV show and someone else (maybe Paula?) on another, say that they thought a man would win this year because they felt there were far more great singers among the men than among the women. I was, therefore, surprised when I heard Simon say he thought the country girl would win (but maybe he was just judging how the audience would vote??)
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 1:59 pm
I didnt hear him say she would win just that he really liked her and she was his fav.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 5:27 am
I am surprised that no one has noticed how much Scott looks like a professional wrestler. After he gets voted off, he could go on WFW as "The Warbler". I like Constantine, I like the Russian kid - that Lindsay cracks me up, she always looks like she is bored by the entire process. Oh and I just about died laughing when I saw you guys say "Fran Streisand"! I knew EXACTLY who you were talking about! Re: Simon and Carmen - I don't think he ever liked her, I think he liked the number of votes she got on the people's choice show.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 8:52 am
I agree that marketability is at the top of Simon’s criteria for selecting a winner. Can they market the winner? There are a lot of average singers out there that are making a fortune for themselves and their agents because they have an appeal that goes beyond pure singing ability. If American Idol was purely a singing contest, they could hold it on the radio (who cares what the contestants look like!) and not interview the contestants, provide back-stories and show their personality and performing skills. Just stick them in a closet with a microphone and we could judge by their singing! Contrary to what some people and some of the judges say – American Idol is not a singing contest. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 4:35 pm
Snoops!!!! You are so on the money about Clay. And the ironic thing??? Clay is laughing all the way to the bank. I love how Kelly, Ruben and Fantasia had a shared Christmas special, and Clay had his own!!! Clay proved that sometimes it doesn't suck being in second place.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 10:55 pm
Constantine is cute & all but I really think that Bo guy sings better. His voice is more interesting imo, as is his vid on the Idol website. But C got a ton of early face time & Bo got almost none.. so wonder who will be staying & going... Anwar is awesome and should be there for the long haul. He doesnt even need the glam squad. He already looks like a star.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 5:33 am
I agree Jimmer, they have to know how to sing but just as important they need that "it" that somehow makes them rise to the top.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 8:08 am
I agree too about marketability. One of the interesting aspects of this show is trying to assess it. Its certainly not a science and no one gets it right all of the time. Its downright funny how wrong Simon was on Clay. Unfortunately as with all realms of media the judges may be forming stereotyped, perhaps stale, ideas of what they think we want. The world got excited over Britney or Clay but does that mean they want another. I would agree that some characteristics are more likely to be embraced than others but timing and originality are also factors. In trying to manipulate the early favorites with uneven camera time (based on their guesses at marketability) I think the show opens itself up to making another Clay mistake. That all said, I did agree with their final selections generally. And it was interesting to note that the people they sent home on Wed not only didn't sing as well, but seemed to lack star potential, I would agree...
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