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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 12:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just set it to record..

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 11:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh.. my... I watched.. and she was just brittle. and I think maybe she went with Mikala and they both got their tongues pierced.. Paula was talking funny.

And she has some sort of bra that gave her a double cleavage, somehow. Scary.

And yeah, sad.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 11:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm wondering if she had a cold. She sounded congested to me, as well as LOOPY!!!

Lori
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04-18-2003

Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 5:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
or maybe she took Nyquil!

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 8:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I heard that 19 is polling some newsletter subscribers asking them how improtant the judges are to the show. I think that with all the media comments that Ai can no longer sweep this under the rug. They have to get her help. I think they will replace her while she gets help somewhere.
Now I have heard that she is suffering from back pain and is taking medication for that, but if you pain is so bad, you should not be sitting in those chairs, she should be getting non-medication treatment for her back.
It is very easy to get addicted to pain medication, well for some people. Pain medication tends to make me sick. I had surgery and could not stand being so out of it and decided to live with the pain and stop taking the pills. The doctor couldn't believe I could take the pain, but it could be because people would not stop calling me to see how I was - Somehow "Google gah hurmph" is not good conversation. Not to mention falling down when you get up to answer the phone.

Roppiepie
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05-06-2004

Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree, Sadiesmom. AI cannot go on acting like everything is peachy with Paula. Whatever kind of help she gets, I hope she can recover and become a stronger person~physically and mentally. I like the judge format, but these 3 need to take classes on giving good creative criticism that these people can really use to stretch and grow. The current format is not only stale, but downright moldy! I've enjoyed Wayne Newton's show, "The Entertainer". His criticisms were real without hollowing out the contestants' hearts and souls. He was nurturing as well as proactive each week.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 8:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think that the Canadian Idol judges at this point do a much better job of providing constructive criticism that actually helps the contestants. At one point last season, Simon was reducing his comments to shrugging his shoulders.

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Monday, April 04, 2005 - 8:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The difference with the entertainer is that ther eis no voting, no live performances. Wayne does not have to count on loose cannon public voting, but can select the people he wants to move on without worrying how his words influence someone.
He can afford to be kind and it seems like a a great experience on that show.
But, you probably get nothing except the experience from doing that show, as opposed to the idols that for the most part stay in show business.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, April 04, 2005 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jimmer, I think the reason Simon was reduced to shrugging his shoulders last season... is to be perfectly honest, I think he was bored - it was like watching an act on a cruise ship - or maybe a very bad karaoke impression - or maybe it was...

Kittystj
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08-10-2001

Monday, April 04, 2005 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Simon decides before the season even starts who he wants to win. Kelly, Ruben, Fantasia and now Carrie.
Clay out sang Ruben each week, but Simon riduculed and belittled him most of the time. People on this site always judge for themselves and also have shrewd observances and opinions but so many folk who watch are persuaded by Simon.
Oh, and one more thing "Carrie will outsell all the rest of the idol winners!!" Fat chance that she'll sell 2.7 million as Clay has done.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, April 04, 2005 - 1:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Simon is going to be on Oprah today.. not sure if he'll discuss Paula..

Mak1
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08-12-2002

Monday, April 04, 2005 - 1:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kitty, I don't think Simon was including Clay in that statement, because he wouldn't consider Clay to be an Idol winner. (Ha! Shows what he knows!)

Darrellh
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07-21-2004

Monday, April 04, 2005 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Since Clay got out of his contract, I'm surprised they ever mention his name at all.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, April 04, 2005 - 2:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't think Simon thought that Kelly was going to win at the beginning of AI One. I think she hit him "out of the blue" - he has stated that he didn't even remember her in the early rounds. He Clearly wanted that other girl (her name escapes me but she was on Boston Public) to win.

He also had a strong preference for Latoya London last show.

I think Simon judges on a different criteria from a lot of us. I think he looks for the "total package" and for him that seems to be a Brittany-type. He seems to prefer the cute, easy-to-market generic blondes (by the way I'm not necessarily including Carrie in that because her type of voice is different from his usual norm), or the attractie young black women. I think he is more interested in "marketability" than true talent, or at least he was at the beginning of the show. I think he has seen that the American public votes differently from his prior "Idol" endeavors and he has changed the way he slants the contestants.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, April 04, 2005 - 2:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here is the funny thing: Year before last Simon was avidly against Josh Gracin, granted he wasn't the greatest singer on the board, he appealed to a different audience than what he expected. It was the begining of the Iraq conflict, and he was a marine, not to mention a "good ole boy", a family man, and not bad to look at either.

Simon also wasn't a fan of anyone in the "Top 4" IMHO. Didn't he call Clay Aiken a troll or something, and he said when ruben sang it was a heart attack waiting to happen because of his weight.

BTW...Josh Gracin has had two top ten hits on the country charts since the release of his first album and sold more than clay and ruben.

So see, Simon doesn't really know what the "public" wants or desires, because he hasn't picked the winner since. I hope Carrie wins, but I wouldn't be suprised if someone with more personality does.

Fantasia had a unique voice and a sob story to go with it. She wasn't the best singer on the board, but she appealed to a lot of women in her same situation. Great personality, Young, single, mom, who needs a chance. She, IMO, didn't have the look, the voice, or the "moves" (what was with that dance?)

Kelly Clarkson had the looks and the talent, and a bit of spunk.....people like a small town girl/boy, she had genuiness. Not a diva.


Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, April 04, 2005 - 2:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Simon was just on Oprah. Said that Kelly is the best singer of all the Idols. Fantasia is the best person. He thinks Carrie Underwood is both.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, April 04, 2005 - 2:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Roxip is 100% correct re: LaToya last season. That's why I said it was the kiss of death when he said the same thing to Carrie, essentially--that she would win the competition, etc.

Josh Gracin hasn't sold more CDs than Ruben or Clay. But he has sold more than Justin Guarini and Diana DiGarmo.

You may not like Fantasia, but the music industry does. She's also had four songs on the charts simultaneously.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, April 04, 2005 - 2:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't say I didn't like her. She had a wonderful personality, it was just MO, about her talents

Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 5:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kelly had that wholesome small town feeling. But her handlers have converted her into a punker because they think the "buying" public rather than the "tv watching" public prefer that look.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 8:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't know - I've heard Kelly do some interviews recently and I think she is handling herself! She is a great radio interview to listen to because she will and does say anything she thinks - she is still slightly goofy - which is appropriate for her age - but she is very knowledgeable musically. She is also pretty forthcoming about her personal life. She says she got to pick a lot of the songs on her new album - with approval from the label of course - and she seems like she is having a great time. She sounds really genuine, especially in the latest interview I heard. She really does come across as a small town girl still.

By the way, I watched Simon's interview too, and I don't think he has a grasp (despite what it sounds like in my paragraph about what he looks for in an artist - I should read what I write before I send it...LOL) of what the American buying public wants. His new band that he was pushing on Oprah is almost a semi-operatic endeavor. They are four absolutely stunningly gorgeous guys from France, Spain, Sweden and the U.S. who sing beautifully (think Josh Groban only better looking and four of them) but they are a long way away from mainstream music. Their name is Il Divo. I just didn't get the connection between them and mainstream pop music.

Darrellh
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07-21-2004

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 8:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
You have to remember that Simon's picks, on his own (not AI related), have not been all that successful on the level that Idol winners have been. So, whenever I see him make a pick for a winner, I just remember that he doesn't have a true feel for the American market.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 8:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Simon is aiming to get into many music markets. Il Divo is reaching some who are not interested in standard pop. He is pushing Carrie to get into the country scene and I bet he will sign Bo, no matter where he places, if he continues to do well.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 8:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree, MsBat. I didn't hear him tout il Divo as a "pop" group, and think he's aiming at a world stage. Getting them a feature spot on Oprah was quite a good move, IMO.

Kristylovesbb
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09-14-2000

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Did anyone see the skull and cross bones ring on Paula's finger tonight? I replayed it several times to make sure. Anyone else see it?

Lori
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04-18-2003

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 7:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I did...wonder the significance?