Author |
Message |
Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 4:54 pm
OK..thanks. Then, Tish, I don't understand your comment about their hands and timing?
|
Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 5:00 pm
Texannie, she meant they could have released this information to divert attention away from the brewing scandal about Paula not being herself these days.
|
Highlighter
Member
09-03-2003
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 5:27 pm
Wow! I can't say I'm surprised. I've been voting for him because I like his voice, but I have to agree that I would never want to tick him off. He certainly *does* give off a scary vibe! Hopefully, he will get some good support and get some serious therapy because even if he's not throwing his ex-fiance around, he still has some gigantic chips sitting on those shoulders of his.
|
Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 5:32 pm
I would think the problem would be not so much how long ago this happened but if he lied about it or failed to disclose it. They'd have grounds to do what they want to do then.
|
Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 6:17 pm
Thanks. I am just not that smart to figure all these theories out! LOL
|
Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 6:20 pm
Bonzacat had to explain it to me Texannie, I did not connect the dots either.
|
Herckleperckle
Member
11-20-2003
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 7:26 pm
Oh my goodness! Just stopping in here! Well, that is just too much. What happened to background checks?
|
Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 8:16 pm
You know it's kind of hard to know what to believe when I don't have all the facts. They make it sound like it's a 'fact' when they say that 'according to the police report', but the police report was only the account that the girlfriend gave to the police. The police weren't there witnessing it and stating that it was a fact. There is no evidence that she was physically hurt. I've been on the man's side of a 'domestic dispute' when my sister-in-law tried to take away my brother's rights to see his child. There was ALOT of anger on my brother's part and most of it was justified because my SIL told a lot of lies. I witnessed several of the incidents that she lied about, so I know she was telling lies. People are so quick to jump on a women's side in these cases. Scott took a plea and that doesn't mean he was guilty of everything that she stated. It doesn't sound like any violence was involved in the other incident at the school, so I'm not going to draw any conclusions that Scott is a violent dangerous individual just yet. I agree that in the pre-lim rounds that Scott was portrayed as a loner, but I don't understand how so many people think that he has continued to be like that. I've seen so much positive interaction between him and the other contestants. I don't know how you all are missing it.
|
Babyboo
Member
06-16-2003
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 8:21 pm
Azriel, i have seen positive interactions between Scott and the other idols too, but i have also witnessed some very strange behavior from him also.
|
Hippyt
Member
06-15-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 8:22 pm
I agree with you totally Az. While violence is violence,he did not hit her. And,I like him.
|
Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 8:26 pm
Was he convicted of anything? 'squeek'
|
Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 8:31 pm
Kona, it says that he took a plea and was charged with misdmeanor disorderly conduct.
|
Justalittlebean
Member
08-15-2003
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 8:52 pm
The article say's he "shoved" her, took the phone from her hand and threw it at her, hitting her in the chest. So he did "hit" her. I always thought he was really creepy, but I admit, he does have a very good voice. I bet he's on his way out. Not good press for a family show. 
|
Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 9:07 pm
On Good Day LA this morning [our local "Today Show" and the show that spawned "Good Day Live"], they said that one of the tabloids is reporting that Scott is involved with Nadia, FWIW.
|
Hippyt
Member
06-15-2001
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 9:13 pm
Ok,well,thanks for that the mental image has left me blind.
|
Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 9:28 pm
Justalittlebean, it says that SHE SAID he did that. The police officers only wrote down her statement, they didn't witness it happening. If she had marks on her or had gone to the doctor that would have been in the report. So it's only her words with no proof.
|
Bluejaxrock
Member
04-23-2004
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 9:31 pm
I can't believe how quick y'all are to crucify someone...without all of the facts. It was four years ago, evidently no trouble since then, and as was mentioned, only g/f's account of the incident. I got into a "tussle" with a former b/f, and even though he busted out my car window (while I was in it trying to find my keys to leave) I was arrested for domestic violence, not him. Charges were eventually dismissed, but it is still on my record. For me, this would be an issue if it was repeated behavior. Yes, no man/woman should hit another, but I also don't think a person should try to use a child as a shield, either. So I condemn them both! lol
|
Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 9:42 pm
We haven't even seen Scott's side of the story. Maybe she was doing drugs and he was trying to protect his child! We don't have a clue because we know nothing about the girlfriend, so why think the worst of him?
|
Max
Member
08-12-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 9:44 pm
I'm not cruicifying anyone. I'm just sayin' that this seems more inflammatory than a few pictures in sexy lingerie posted on an adult website, so I wonder how the producers will handle it. I haven't much cared for Scott since the beginning. His voice is okay, but I thought his last performance was terrible and I don't think he has much stage presence. If he wins, I'd be shocked because of his talent, not because of his past. 
|
Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 9:49 pm
LOL! Nadia and Scott! Did any of you ever see the old Cary Grant/Leslie Caron movie, Father Goose? My first thought when I read that was - Goodie Two-shoes and the Filthy Beast?!?!
|
Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 10:01 pm
LOL Az. Somebody over on TWoP noted that Fantasia, who has been at #1 on Urban AC for seven weeks now (and who has had four songs the charts simultaneously) will be performing on AI this coming week. And she'll be performing "Baby Mama," too--her paean to unwed mothers. To add to the drama, Fantasia was a victim herself of domestic battery at the hand of her baby daddy.
|
Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 11:05 pm
This is a message from Scott's aunt posted at Idolonfox Message Board This is my 'official' satement regarding the Smoking Gun report that was posted on the Internet today. This is my one and only comment regarding this subject on these message boards. I will not be responding to any posts made in this thread or on this subject. First and foremost, American Idol was and is fully aware of this incident. Scott was very up front with any information regarding his past - American Idol asked and Scott bared his entire past, keeping nothing hidden from them. Taken from the Smoking Gun story: "At that point, according to the police report, Savol shoved Martin, pulled a phone from her hand, and then threw it at Martin, striking her in the chest." Michele states that the phone did not hit her in the chest but the phone hit the wall. When the police came the following day to take pictures, they took a picture of the damage done to the wall. Michele does not remember them taking a picture of anything other than her hand, which did not show any injury. Taken from the Smoking Gun story: "Martin, then 21, initially said she did not want Savol to be prosecuted, but rather sought a "restraining order on him." The following day, however, she signed a warrant for his arrest." Taken from the police report: "She also stated that she did not want to prosecute the suspect" Michele is very adamant about the fact that she did not want Scott prosecuted. She says the police prosecuted Scott without her support. She wrote a letter to the court on Scott's behalf and the charges were then reduced to a misdemeanor. Scott began working for the Cuyahoga County Department of Corrections in December 2000. When the above incident occured, he immediately informed his superiors who investigated the incident. Scott never heard any more about this incident at work. In April of 2002 Scott became a State Certified Corrections Officer. In June of 2004 Scott was hired by a security company to work as a security officer. Scott made a mistake, paid his dues, changed his life for the better and moved on.
|
Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 11:09 pm
Arrest won't cost 'Idol' finalist ...According to a statement issued by Fox and Idol producers Thursday night: "Scott Savol was forthcoming to the American Idol producers and the network regarding his misdemeanor. After reviewing the facts, in which the charges were reduced to disorderly conduct, we felt that considering Scott's honesty and his remorse, the situation did not warrant his disqualification."
|
Herckleperckle
Member
11-20-2003
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 11:15 pm
Thanks, Az. That was very helpful.
|
Bonzacat
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 11:19 pm
From USA Today: Arrest won't cost 'Idol' finalist From staff reports Posted 4/1/2005 12:11 AM A previous arrest won't cost American Idol finalist Scott Savol his chance to continue in the hit Fox singing competition. Thesmokinggun.com Web site Thursday posted a Shaker Heights, Ohio, police report citing Savol's arrest following a 2001 altercation with the mother of his then-infant son. Savol, 28, one of nine remaining Idol finalists, had previously told Idol producers of the misdemeanor disorderly conduct conviction that resulted from the incident. According to a statement issued by Fox and Idol producers Thursday night: "Scott Savol was forthcoming to the American Idol producers and the network regarding his misdemeanor. After reviewing the facts, in which the charges were reduced to disorderly conduct, we felt that considering Scott's honesty and his remorse, the situation did not warrant his disqualification." LINK
|