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Alisons
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01-10-2003
| Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 4:24 pm
Ditto with Constantine. Usually in my area his land lines were ALWAYS wide open and I could never figure out why he was never in the bottom three. The last week he was in it was busy maybe 50% of the time and I thought, "oh good, more people are voting." I guess I can figure out why they would want to manipulate the contest, but they must be crazy to think that it can go on and on with no one eventually figuring it out, or rather finding it out.
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Tishala
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08-01-2000
| Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 4:42 pm
Just based on what we've seen teased about this "expose," I doubt we will get anything good. Part of me would really love to see the show ripped open, but instead I think we will hear what we have heard before: that Simon was upset about Kim Locke's improvement because he felt it jeopardized his final between Ruben and the runner up, that Paula's behavior is ditzy sometimes and she has slept with a contestant or two, that the contestants aren't terribly squeeky clean, etc. But I don't think we'll see anything about manipulating votes or anything that puts the show in jeopardy. I'd love to be wrong, though.
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Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002
| Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 4:44 pm
Tish, you read my mind. I think it's going to turn out to be one big meh. I doubt I'll waste my time on it. Oh, who am I kidding I'm already popping the popcorn and inviting over my friends.
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Bonzacat
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07-08-2003
| Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 4:47 pm
If ABC is reporting anything about voting, this article doesn't mention it. Just Corey Clark, wanting to (ugh) "set the record straight"... I also read as a condition of his doing this special, a part of his new single will also be played during the show. This is from Abcnews.com An Illicit Affair on 'American Idol'? Ex-Contestant Says He Got Coaching From, Had Relationship With, Judge Paula Abdul May. 3, 2005 - A former "American Idol" contestant told ABC News' "Primetime Live" that Paula Abdul, one of the judges for the hit reality television show, provided him with off-camera tips and assistance while he was a contestant, even helping him select some of the songs he would sing. "She was opening my eyes to like, 'Look, you sing this stuff. This is how you're going to get through,'" said Corey Clark, one of the 12 finalists during the Fox show's second season. Clark, then 22, said that during the competition he had an off camera relationship with Abdul, then 40, which was at first platonic but later became sexual. He said Abdul, who was herself a chart-topping singer in the late 1980s, initially told him, "I want to look out after you like I'm your mom." He said Abdul then quickly changed her mind and said, "Well, maybe more like your special friend." In April 2003, Clark lost his spot among the amateur singers auditioning for the grand prize of a recording contract when producers abruptly removed him for failing to inform the show that he had been arrested after a domestic dispute with his sister in October 2002. Abdul has issued a statement in which she says she "will not dignify the false statements made by Corey Clark with a response." "Primetime" received the following statement from "American Idol": "Disqualified 'American Idol' contestant Corey Clark was removed from the show for failing to disclose his criminal arrest history. "Despite documented procedures and multiple opportunities for contestants to raise any concerns they may have, the producers of 'American Idol,' FreemantleMedia, 19 Entertainment and FOX were never notified or contacted by Mr. Clark, nor presented any evidence concerning his claims. "We will, of course, look into any evidence of improper conduct that we receive. In the meantime, we recommend that the public carefully examine Mr. Clark's motives, given his apparent desire to exploit his prior involvement with 'American Idol' for profit and publicity." Claims She Helped With Clothes, Hair, Songs Clark said Abdul helped him with his look -- even choosing a hair stylist -- and gave him prescription cough syrup, with a prescription made out in her name, to soothe his throat. Clark said he thought Abdul was "polishing that dust off the dirty diamond and helping me shine a little bit." He said he and Abdul were friends for a month and then it became a romantic relationship. Clark's parents told "Primetime Live" that their son told them at the time that he was involved with Abdul and that they expressed concern about his becoming involved with a judge while the competition was ongoing. They also told "Primetime" that they sometimes spoke to Abdul themselves when she called their home looking for Clark. Two of Clark's friends say he also told them about the relationship at the time and even brought Abdul to meet them. An Issue of Publicity? "Primetime Live" interviewed other losing contestants from the 2003 American Idol competition and told them about Clark's claims. They said that if Clark's allegations about receiving secret advice and coaching from Abdul are true, then they feel that the competition was unfair. Clark is recording his first album and writing a book. News of the book proposal was leaked to the media last month. Clark said in recent phone conversations and in a recorded voice mail message that he played for "Primetime Live," Abdul implored him not to talk about her or publish his memoirs. In her statement to "Primetime Live," Abdul 's representative said: "He is communicating lies about Paula Abdul in order to generate interest in a book deal.'' But Clark says he is making these allegations now because "I need to set the record straight for myself. "Unfortunately, I need to set the record straight for her too, because she was a part of it," he said. "This is me telling the truth. It just so happens to be a very explosive truth."
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Bonzacat
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07-08-2003
| Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 4:55 pm
Our local ABC (L.A. --- Tish, turn on your TV) is teasing for the special now. "... Coming up in entertainment, Prime Time Live explores American Idol and explosive accusations....! An Eyewitness News exclusive - is American Idol a fake fenom?" LOL - GAL! We'll all be munching popcorn, even though not expecting any huge revelations!
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 4:58 pm
Corey makes it sound like he was on the show for a long time, wasn't he kicked off after the second or third show?
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Jbean
Member
01-05-2002
| Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 4:58 pm
i just saw carmen rasmussen (goat-voiced girl, lol) on ET and she said that she had seen corey clark in bed with another FEMALE CONTESTANT while he was in the AI2 house, and that maybe he was getting that girl mixed up with paula abdul. (ROFL!) no, she wouldn't name the contestant, but she did say she didn't think the allegations about paula were true.
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Tishala
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08-01-2000
| Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 5:01 pm
It's everyone's belief that the other female contestant was Kimberly Caldwell. How would Carmen come up with an explanation like that, though? She's is not the sharpest knife in the cutlery store.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 5:02 pm
Well, if they do not go into any voting issues this time, there is always "Expose Part II" for the next sweeps period.
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Jbean
Member
01-05-2002
| Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 5:02 pm
lol tish...it was pretty funny, though!
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Bonzacat
Member
07-08-2003
| Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 5:08 pm
Of all the odd statements... Carmen? If that had been Paula in a bed with Corey in the AI House, I would take back everything I said and vote for Paula to enter rehab immediately. As they say, "get a room". 
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Maris
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03-28-2002
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 3:24 am
CNN just showed a promo for the expose and the anchor was discussing it with a gossip guy. Apparently one of the tapes they have of Paula is Paula leaving a message on Core's cellphone AFTER the news came out about this show. They also said that ABC cut a deal with Corey, he gave them the interview and they would air him singing his new single. General Opinion seems to be that Paula has to leave the show. The guy also said if Scott Savo doesnt leave tonight he will be very upset.
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Fruitbat
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08-07-2000
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 5:37 am
Catherine Crier talked about this on her Court TV show yesterday. Apparently her camp insists that the message refered to him telling her that he was going to tell the media he was bitter about being kicked off and nothing to do with her or something like that. It made no sense. I will be sorry to see her go, if this happens, for many reasons. I like her. The judges and Ryan have taken 3 years to build a chemistry that is vital to it's popularity. Roger Ebert never got that back when Siskel died. I doubt that Paula will leave the show though. I expect Fox to treat this as a tabloid expose and not comment. This is going to backfire on Cory. Ruining another for personal gain just never works. And all of this to sing his new single on TV? Why buy his book when all will be told tonight, as well. He has gotten some very poor council.
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Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 6:02 am
Corey is choosing to grab his chance at the golden ring. He is going for the money and exposure--be it good or bad. I am sure he got cash upfront for his tell-all. And his name will be no longer elicit a "Who?" when uttered. He is simply using the same approach every successful business practices in our society. It's up to us whether or not we choose to label his motivations as desperate or his character as lacking ethics. Paula is the one who made the biggest mistake, IMO. By choosing to have a fling with a cutie booked ON THE SHOW, she blatantly risked the show's credibility as well as what was left of her image/marketability. Huge lack of judgment. I'd say she is goneso, too, whether or not drugs/medications or emotional instability influenced her decisions.
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Kep421
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08-11-2001
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 7:31 am
I don't follow AI because I can't stand to listen to Simon...but I can't help but hear about this issue as it is being broadcast everywhere. I have a question tho. Do we know for sure that this "affair" took place during the competition? I heard on the radio this morning that Corey had tapes of Paula asking him to not talk about their relationship, but then I come here and find out the tape is supposedly from after the news hit the media. Is there any proof that the relationship went sexual BEFORE he was booted? I haven't formed an opinion on whether Paula should be removed as a judge or not, and frankly, I don't fully understand all the hoopla going on. Its not like the guy WON because of his relationship with Paula. But if I was Paula, I would remove myself as judge, because proven innocent or guilty, I would feel like all of my future opinions would become suspect.
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Maris
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03-28-2002
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 7:38 am
there are more than one tapes apparently. One of the tapes, the smoking gun so to speak, is a call Paula placed to Corey after this whole brouha blew up. I also do not want to see Paula gone becauset this season would have been an awful bore without her and lets face it, this whole scandal has spiced things up a bit too. Paula is like the Dean Martin of the rat pack. I do like Simon though and I find myself agreeing with him more than not in his assessment of the performers.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 7:41 am
Like they aren't already. 
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 7:49 am
I really don't see what the big deal is. Paula gives the same positive opinion to all of the contestants, whether warranted or not, and she does not have any input as to who stays and who goes. No one ever listens to what she has to say because up until recently it's all been drivel anyway ...
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 7:55 am
agreed lady, maybe she just gave Corey that special smile when she said he came into himself in the past week, but has she ever given anyone anything other than a great review.
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Herckleperckle
Member
11-20-2003
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:01 am
But if she gave special advice/attention (song choices, hair stylist, tips) to him that she did not give to others, then that was unfair to the other contestants at the time. If I were one of the other contestants, I would cry FOUL.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:03 am
Baba Wawa is promoting that special on View right now.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:05 am
Star seems to think it'd be wrong if Paula had helped choosing songs for Corey.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:09 am
Corey was gone pretty quickly if I recall. Anyone remember how many weeks he lasted? The question is did paula put him into the finals because she loved his locks. That is the big question, did he get into the finals because of Paula. When did he strike Paula's fancy?
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Bonzacat
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:27 am
Maris - I Googled - Corey made it to the final 9 and was then kicked off.
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Bonzacat
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:41 am
OK - while doing this "research", I happened upon the original column that broke the news that Corey was shopping a book. It was Cindy Adams on 4/8, and her tidbits from the book excerpts she read are interesting: MEMOIR SINGS ABOUT SOME COLORFUL IDOLS By CINDY ADAMS, Page Six Fri Apr 08, 4:13 AM ET WE'LL soon drown in "American Idol" memoirs. Simon Whatsisname did one. Winner Fantasia Barrino's doing one on her nine minutes of fame. 2002's Corey Clark, booted for an assault and battery history in Topeka, Kan., which hadn't surfaced until he got famous for seven minutes, is shopping his already written one. OK? I've read the book's proposal and sample chapters co-authored by Scott S. Smith. And, oy! Corey gets back at everyone but the audience. * Refers to Justin Guarini as "a cheeseball." * Says host Ryan Seacrest "p - - - es" him off. * Calls Ruben Studdard "The Stud" and notes he saw much more of Ruben's a - - much more often than he needed to. * About Simon? "He didn't give a - - - - about me." * Clay Aiken he labels "a geek" . . . "He would blow in this little pitch pipe and sing 'mi mi mi.' He was a humble dude in the beginning, and it was funny to watch his transformation into this 'I'm Clay Aiken, hear me roar' thing." * Some fellow contestant named Marcus Brown gets gift-wrapped as "a brown-noser." * He also talks about "the show's own bulls - - - publicity machine." * He writes of "infighting" and everybody lying and how, at one point, he said he had been in a specific church when, as he writes, their research somehow hadn't turned up the fact that he wasn't even of that denomination. There's really colorful stuff about Paula Abdul. Page 2 of the "American Paula-tics" chapter describes her Studio City Hills house: Hardwood floors. Cheetah-print carpeted stairs on both sides of the living room. Office to the left. Over that, guest bedroom. Then, pantry and black marble countertop kitchen. Over that, a dance studio lined with her awards. Upstairs, entertainment room with stereo system, older model 68-inch Mitsubishi TV. Next door, bedroom with walk-in closet "the size of a studio apartment," dual-head shower, built-in steam room. Modest back yard. Pool with changing lights. He describes "sitting around drinking with the security guards." He describes sitting around drinking with other people. He describes other people doing more than sitting around drinking. He writes of arguments, screaming, "wild, drunken sex." His memoir makes one wonder how any of them had enough time and strength left to actually sing. He says: "After I left the show, I have never been able to bring myself to watch another episode of 'American Idol.' Apparently, lots of others do since 66 million tuned into the two-part premiere of the 2005 season. This nice, sweet manuscript is making publishers' rounds as we speak. LINK
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