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The TVClubHouse: American Idol/Canadian Idol/Other Talent Shows ARCHIVES: American Idol IV: 5/17 Show: Archive through May 18, 2005 users admin

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Highlighter
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09-03-2003

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Someone on another thread was insinuating we were seeing conspiracy where there was none. Well, it was perfectly obvious that they were, if not dishonestly (I'll leave that to the real conspiracy threads ;) then "honestly", manipulating this season to make a Bo/Carrie outcome. As was pointed out, in the audition, the judges noted that Carrie sang like a wooden post, but not *once* during the runoff competition did they *ever* bring it up. However, they constantly harped on Anthony and other contestants for that, even when it wasn't warrented. Fair? NOT. Also, I noticed earlier in the season, that the background singing was used to "pad" Carrie's singing on more than one occasion. Ie, the background vocals would hit the high notes, giving Carrie's sound more range than she actually had. I wouldn't be surprised if they dumped Constantine so that he wouldn't compete for the Rocker vote once they determined Bo had the better chance. I knew they wanted a Rocker in the finals. Anthony and Vonzel never stood a chance :-(

Can we bribe the Smoking Gun to go after dirt?!

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 7:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
<--- Waiting for Tishala's reaction to Bo's sunglasses.

I am really disappointed that the tabloids do not run more 'voting scam' articles. Hopefully they are working on it.

Smoking Gun seems to truly dislike AI - hopefully they are working it also.

Highlighter
Member

09-03-2003

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Alisons, you are so Spot On!!! I only caught the tail end of Season 2 because I was curious about the controversy I read about, but even with that short bit, it was clear to me that Simon was peeved about Clay! As for Season 3, I watched it and it was verrrrry obvious the judges (and Clive) wanted Fantasia, but I would not be able to say who else they wanted. They didn't seem to be nice to anyone else! I think they learned from Season 2 that the viewing audience has enough enthusiasm to support 2 "winners", if they don't compete head-to-head. Therefore it fits perfectly that the final two they're planning on crowning are in so completely different catagories. I am proud to say that I predicted this way back at the beginning when I noted that it was too statistically unlikely that there were so many divas in last season and only one in this season-they definitely targeted new gendres....

Highlighter
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09-03-2003

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I meant to put quotes around "gendres"........a Bo joke, in case you think I'm being stupid

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 8:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i cannot stand shania twain because to me she sounds like she's whining and flat. so maybe carrie did it just right?!
haven't seen it yet, so don't know for sure. just not a shania twain fan, although i like a lot of country music okay.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 8:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i read it as bo said it, so you're okay here, highlighter!

Babyboo
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06-16-2003

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 9:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Simon only gave Vonzell good remarks so that she wouldn't get any sympathy votes this week, I think they all including Clive Davis want a Bo win and so do i.

Kellirippa
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07-10-2002

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 10:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
.....maybe..just maybe, the judges have been pushing for a Bo/Carrie final 2 because they were the best two this season, and the judges are actually good at what they do??

Babyboo
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06-16-2003

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 10:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think they were Kelli.

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 10:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I sure agree with you on the Bo part, Kellirippa. Not so sure about Carrie. I think Vonzell is as good, probably a little better.

In voting tonight, I was able to get in on Vonzells's second line every time I tried after the first hour. Not a good sign.

I got in 25 votes for Bo, doing nothing by click/redial, click/redial, click/redial. My ears hurt from all the phone dialing tones. I'm a bit worried about next week. After getting in the 25 votes for Bo, I decided to check out Carrie's second number, and only got in once in about 5 minutes.

So Bo fans, assuming that it is Bo/Carrie next week, I think Bo is gonna need us.

GO BO!!!

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 3:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Everyone gets to actually HEAR the contestants, so why should the judges have to PUSH for anyone? It is SO irritating to hear the judges slobber over a couple of contestants no matter what but pick apart EVERY flaw of the other contestants. Or damn with faint praise.



Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 6:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Spygirl, despite his efforts not to notice I was watching American Idol, Colossus came around the corner and heard Carrie singing. He stopped and listened for a minute, then said "she sounds like Spygirl, except Spygirl is a much better singer." Veritas, veritas.

I've never paid much attention to Bo, but he kicked tukus last night and essentially left the others to suck hind (hello!!). That is all.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 6:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
American Idol Gets the Phone Numbers Wrong for A Third Time
Once, twice, three times a wrong number. Let us count the ways American Idol can screw-up the phone numbers. First, it was the on-screen graphics, then it was the closed captioning, and now the audio.

After Vonzell Solomon’s second song, Ryan Seacrest initially announced the phone numbers for Vonzell as 1-866-IDOLS-01 and 05. The correct numbers for Vonzell are actually 1-866-IDOLS-01 and 1-866-IDOLS-04. 1-866-IDOLS-05 is the second phone number for Bo Bice.

Ryan then got the numbers right when he next spelled them out as 1-866-43657-01 and 1-866-43657-04. Ryan seemed to realize that he might have made an error immediately, because he became flustered and stammered through the rest of his talk with Vonzell.

After the commercial break, Ryan Seacrest came back on and said, “I want to make sure I have these numbers correct for you”, and he repeated the numbers for Vonzell. This time Ryan got Vonzell’s phone numbers completely correct.

We can’t help but think of that old saying. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, and it’s frigging hilarious. American Idol just wouldn’t be American Idol without at least one phone number error. Watching the expression on Ryan’s face when it dawned on him that he might have just screwed up the phone numbers was priceless.

We can just envision the producers telling Ryan before the show, “Whatever you do Ryan, make sure you get the phone numbers correct.” Then, Ryan goes and makes the one error that he’s not supposed to make. Oh well, at least the hearing impaired have nothing to worry about this time, as American Idol cut the closed captioning completely when the phone numbers were read and just showed the on-screen graphics. Maybe next week, the American Idol producers won’t even let Ryan read the phone numbers and will play a pre-recorded audio tape of the numbers. Meanwhile, the show itself contained some of the best performances to date, and wrong phone numbers or not, it looks like it is going to be a spectacular finale.

Posted by Joe Reality on May 17, 2005 at 10:06 PM in American Idol | Permalink

http://www.realitytvmagazine.com/blog/2005/05/american_idol_g_1.html

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 6:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They need to get rid of this whole dialing in thing. Web voting is the way to go. one vote per isp.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 7:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I heard Bo's acapella song played on the radio this morning and it sounded even better that way than it did on television last night - I didn't realize exactly how good it was (and I thought it was great last night) until I just listened. (I know that is a convoluted sentence but hopefully you will understand!) It actually sent chills down my spine and made the hairs on my arms stand up!

I thought Vonzelle was not very good on her first song, wasn't crazy about Carrie's version of the Shania Twain song, an wasn't blown away by Bo's version of Satisfaction...just don't think that is a great song for him (blaming it on Paula).

I totally agreed with Clive - and I've said it before - Vonzelle reminds me of a beauty pageant contestant with her constant smiling - even when it doesn't work for the song she is singing. And I agree that Carrie - although lately she's been improving - is still too wooden!

I guess guys can just get away with more...LOL!

Highlighter
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09-03-2003

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 7:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah, yeah, I know. You're tired of conspiracy theories.....but how come it conveniently happens to the one they want booted out? They didn't even mention it when it happened to Anthony.....and they still booted him. I wonder who woulda been booted when they had the number problem the first time this season-one of the select two? I remember that Simon had been <gasp> critical of Bo that first night, because I had been surprised. Then, the night of the re-vote, Simon was dripping praise of Bo. Coincidence? Conveniently, they *did* do a re-vote that time.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 7:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I second the (e)motion, Maris. One vote per isp. I've participated in voting where it was once/e-mail address. Many of us have more than one address, but it still seems like it would be more fair. And again I ask, why aren't the votes certified like they are for the Oscars and other music award shows? Y'know, bring out Coopers & Lybrandt with the briefcase cuffed to their wrists...lol Then again, Paula might get a little too excited if she saw handcuffs (j/k).

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 7:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That's an illegal visual, Bluejax.

Jimmer
Member

08-30-2000

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 7:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I know that I’m swimming against the tide by saying this but I didn’t find Bo exceptionally impressive last night. There’s no doubt that he gave a solid performance but I didn’t see anything to rave about with respect to the first and third rounds. His Elton John was good but IMO not comparable to Clay and he could have sleep walked through the Stones. It’s a pretty easy song to sing. I will say that the second song was very impressive.

Vonzell was okay but not exceptional. I actually thought that Carrie was unusually good last night. She gave a nice subdued performance with Crying and unlike Vonzell, her performance actually reflected the song's content (she didn’t smile through a sad song) and the interpretation was nice. She also showed a strong vocal ability with the Air Supply song. Her last effort was a little weak but as I said much earlier, Shania tends to perform rather effortlessly and that makes her songs appear easier to sing than they really are. For example, someone tried to sing “Up” on Canadian Idol and pretty much butchered it.

So I’m not saying that Bo isn’t good – he is. I’m just saying that he wasn’t as good as I would have expected, given the rave reviews.

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I got home late from PTA last night and caught the last set of songs.
They were all okay.
I did not vote.....cause there was not a line listed for Anthony.... sniff.....
Anthony....
Its just not the same.....


Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
OK, I'm going to commit message board suicide here, but I gotta say it:

I have never been fond of Anthony. I think he's a mediocre singer.

There, I said it. He did have a few good performances on AI, and he's a very likeable guy. That said, could it be POSSIBLE that I am not the only one who has this opinion? Maybe a few million others sent their votes to other contestants as well?

I never liked Fantasia last year, but I accept that millions of other people disagreed. Although I disagreed with the comments the judges gave her, I never got the feeling they were trying to "sell" her.
I don't think it's a conspiracy that she won. I just think I had the minority opinion.

And now... I shall run my Bo loving butt outta here!


Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 7:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey Carrie - I felt the same way saying that about Bo (and I agree about Anthony, but then I've never liked the boy band style much).

Bo is very good. I just don't think that he is as exceptional as some people think.

The last time I can remember really sitting up and saying "WOW!" when someone sang on AI was when Clay hit those high notes performing Unchained Melody (and possibly his performance of Bridge Over Troubled Waters).

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 7:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
::::::::::::thud::::::::::::::::::

Babyboo
Member

06-16-2003

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 8:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
BO ROCKS!

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 8:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am almost ready to hop on the Bo love bug but none of them will ever come close to my ruuuuuuuuuuuben.