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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 4:55 pm
Dionne was gay??????????????
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 4:55 pm
I hope he sings all the parts, Lady, especially the "Gallileo" part.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 4:58 pm
SSswhhhhhh!! Maris, didn't you know that drug bust was to throw us off the trail of the real scandal? Don't tell, don't tell . . . especially don't let Whitney know that I know that you know, because she's got the same racket going.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 4:59 pm
LOL @ New Zealand LOL again @ Gallileo
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 5:00 pm
Bo and Free Bird are a good mix.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 5:02 pm
Mama mia,mama mia,mama mia let me go- Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me,for me,for me-
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 5:03 pm
Songs from the year you were born...... not a bad list for my year! LOL http://www.fiftiesweb.com/58tunes2.htm
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 7:11 pm
Godess and Maris OHHHHHHHHHHHH good.
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Highlighter
Member
09-03-2003
| Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 9:36 pm
Thanks for posting the AOL poll results. I don't get AOL, but I'm *really* curious about what the results look like after tonight's (Tues.) show!!!!
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 10:21 pm
singer | 3/30 | 3/31 | 4/1 | 4/5 | 4/6 | 4/7 | 4/9 | 4/10 | 4/12 1pm | 4/12 10pm | 4/13 | Bo | 7 | 14 | 18 | 31 | 28 | 26 | 38 | 40 | 40 | 40 | 36 | Carrie | 45 | 34 | 29 | 21 | 23 | 28 | 21 | 21 | 24 | 24 | 26 | Constantine | 16 | 16 | 17 | 21 | 21 | 14 | 16 | 16 | 14 | 13 | 15 | Vonzell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | Anwar | 5 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | Anthony | 3 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | Nadia | 5 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | Scott | 5 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | |
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 3:24 am
I hope Constantine's numbers are lower because his fans are dialing! 
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 8:48 am
Even with AOL pushing Constantine, it seems more like the Carrie fans get going in the morning.. or.. because more of her fans might be in the south? I have no idea. And Bo remains in front for now.
singer | 3/30 | 3/31 | 4/1 | 4/5 | 4/6 | 4/7 | 4/9 | 4/10 | 4/12 1pm | 4/12 10pm | 4/13 | Bo | 7 | 14 | 18 | 31 | 28 | 26 | 38 | 40 | 40 | 40 | 36 | Carrie | 45 | 34 | 29 | 21 | 23 | 28 | 21 | 21 | 24 | 24 | 26 | Constantine | 16 | 16 | 17 | 21 | 21 | 14 | 16 | 16 | 14 | 13 | 15 | Vonzell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | Anwar | 5 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | Anthony | 3 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | Nadia | 5 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | Scott | 5 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | |
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 10:07 am
What do the numbers mean? What's the question they're asked?
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 10:44 am
The poll asks who you want to win. You click on their picture and then all the pictures slide around to be in order of votes.. the numbers are percents. You are encouraged to "vote again". and again.. But, starting last season, they don't list the raw numbers so who knows if all the votes count or now?
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 10:49 am
Thanks, Sea. So it's a probably a good indication of fan base, those who'd vote again and again on this would probably phone again and again too. Interesting.
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Rabbit
Member
08-12-2001
| Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 11:07 am
Kitt, I believe the AOL poll has been notoriously bad in past years at predicting the evictions but is still interesting anyway. Right Sea?
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 1:40 pm
Ah! Oh well. Yes, definitely interesting, I was pretty shocked the bottom five are so close, particularly as you hear so much about Anthony having his supporters.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 6:43 pm
Rabbit, yes and no.. this season it has shown that, at least on AOL (and we have no idea how many people there are simply voting without voting by phone or text message, or even seeing the show) we see that apparently Bo, Carrie and Constantine have large fan bases. But yes, indeed, I've always considered it "of interest" but not definitive
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:02 pm
OK, I'm not spoiled yet for tonight and won't post until after west coast here, but then I have a new chart, showing trends just from when I've looked up and posted.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:35 pm
Hmm well AOL isn't copping to tonight's results, so here is the AOL trend, which shows that we have to take it with many grains of salt.. I'm spoiled but no post show is reflected here, yet.
singer | 3/30 | 3/31 | 4/1 | 4/5 | 4/6 | 4/7 | 4/9 | 4/10 | 4/12 | 4/13 pre show | 4/13 post show | Bo | 2 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | Carrie | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | Constantine | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Vonzell | 4 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 8 | 4 | Anwar | 5 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 5 | Anthony | 10 | 10 | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 6 | Nadia | 7 | 7 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 7 | 7 | Scott | 6 | 6 | 8 | 9 | 9 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 6 | 8 | Total | 11 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 7 |
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 10:15 pm
AOL is having a technical snafu now that the show is over.. yes they have Nadia out of the running but if you vote for Vonzell it freezes and if you vote for someone else it works but Vonzell isn't counted.. so I'll check tomorrow. But the percents at present, without Vonzell are Carrie 45% Constantine 26% Bo 12% Anthony 9% Anwar 4% Scott 3% I do think they restart each week after the results show and each week someone shoots to the top but by the next day things settle down.. I wouldn't be surprised to see Bo much higher in the morning.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 11:58 pm
I think my theory about the regionality of voting may hold up.. this week again, after the show, Carrie has a surge to first in the AOl poll but later on.. things change. (poll still messed up and Vonzell not counting) Less than two hours since Carrie was at 45% and Bo at 12% Now Constantine 34% Carrie 26% Bo 23% Anthony 9% Anwar 5% Scott 4%
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 3:28 am
It doesn't shock me terribly that the AI results differ so much from the AOL poll. We have long known the following about AI results: 1. It's regional. Southerners tend to do well. Every winner so far has been southern while Californians and northeasterners, where there are many more people, drop like flies. If Constantine wins this, as I now predict, it will break the Southern hegemony, but I thought at the beginning of the season we'd see a Carrie-Beaux finale. 2. African American contestants do much better on the show than they "do" on the internet. That's why internet users are so shocked--SHOCKED--about Ruben's victory or why Fantasia had relatively few supporters online (while Clay and JPL, for example, seemed to have insurmountable support). They imagine the internet as some kind of democratized place, when in fact it is and always has been predominantly, but not exclusively, bourgeois and white. When I made my selections this year, I tried to keep those things in mind. I would have also tried to remember the power of the Hawaiian demographic (where regional and/or ethnic pride carried Jasmine much further than her talent could have, let's face it). I don't know how AOL's subscribers skew vis-a-vis region, race, economics, and willingness to sit there for two hours voting, but I have never thought they matched up well against the actual vote.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 5:48 am
Very good analysis Tishala. The Internet is a very different demographic than the viewers and voters at large.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:31 am
I am not sure that it is the race issue online because I do not believe that only black people vote for the black AI contestants. I am as white as snow and ethnically Native American but voted for Fantasia constantly last year. Also, there is not a big enough percentage of black people in the US for someone to win (Ruben, Fantasia) without a large white (or non-black) vote. Why would non-black people vote for Fantasia on dial-in but not online? There has to be something more to it.
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