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The TVClubHouse: American Idol/Canadian Idol/Other Talent Shows ARCHIVES: American Idol IV: ABC Expose about Idol (ARCHIVES): Archive through May 05, 2005 users admin

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Highlighter
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09-03-2003

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I dunno about not doing Bo.....anyone else wondering about the eye wink he does at the end of his performance? Is it being aimed at Paula?! Inquiring minds wanna know!

Actually, since I couldn't find that show last night, I watched both parts of the Secrets of Reality TV (VH1, tivo'd). It had stuff on the AI voting, believe it or not! AND.....Scooter Girl! I was so psyched! Don't know why they picked her to comment-the comments were totally inocuous, but it was still cool to see her. Anyway, talked about how Diana's small town overloaded the phone lines, although most calls made it through-only ~3% (I think) couldn't make it through. WHich I find odd, since I know that a greater percentage than that of my *own* calls didn't make it through-for her, or Anthony in the last two weeks, at minimum. I still think there's a scandal there regarding voting.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 8:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am with Cr8. I do think that something was going on as well. Now, does it 'taint' AI? I am not sure. But, I think his allegations are true. Phone records alone prove something no on the level was going on.

Babyboo
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06-16-2003

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think something was going on too, if it is proven then Paula should be fired, it just isn't morally right to sleep around with the contestants, Why does society tolerate so much these days?..it's like there are no limits to what you can do and get away with anymore, it's like noone cares anymore, I don't get it.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 8:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I watched the show & it just made me remember how <> I thought Corey was during his short time on AI 2. He is still <> to me.

<QT>

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm with Cr8 and Texannie about the phone records.

Yes, he probably chose now because its publicity for his new album. If he spilled the beans when it happened, everyone would be saying he was trying to get revenge for having to leave the competition.

I haven't read all the posts here so I don't know if this was brought up in here but it was on the morning radio show I listen to. What are the chances that AI found out about this at the time it was happening and that was why Corey left the show, not because of some undisclosed arrest.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 8:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Honestly Baby, I dont really care. It is good fun to gossip about but the guy didnt win and I think she is pretty much paying for her poor judgement now. She goes to bed with someone who definitely isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, he is twenty years younger than she is and she got played by him big time. With her behavioral problems recently and now this on top of it, if I were her I wouldnt even come out of my house.

I say Corey got his fifteen minutes, lets face it where would we be if we didnt have Paula to kick around this year. The contestants sure arent that entertaining. I dont think he got kicked out because of the affair but I am betting that Randy and Simon knew about it.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If my memory serves me correct, Corey had a court appearance for assaulting his sister. Corey's attorney appeared in court on a motion to continue the hearing to allow Corey to remain on AI. The judge refused to continue Corey's case. Corey then had to come clean with AI about his arrest and his required court appearance since he couldn't get a continuance. There was no way Corey could be in two places at one time and that's what forced him to admit his arrest. So the dealie with Paula had nothing to do with his leaving AI. I vaguely remember the judge saying if Corey did not appear in court, he was swearing out a warrant for Corey's arrest.

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 8:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't understand his need to bring this all out in the open. He said he needed to "clear his path" but I just don't understand the point of bringing it all out in the open and dragging Paula thru it all.

I am not saying that what they did was ok but why bring it out other than for the publicity.

I guess now that it is out, Paula will probably "retire" her spot next season and we will have some horrid personality in her place. I always liked Paula the three of them were a good combo.

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree that Paula is paying for the bad judgement now. I wouldn't come out of my house either if I were her, Maris - ITA. I think we all agree with "what was she thinking?" But the fact that she may have done what she did with/for/to Corey - I don't care, either. It wasn't smart, she has jeopardized herself and Idol in many ways, but it also wasn't worthy of an hour of network prime time.

I've seen footage of AI producer Nigel Lythgoe, an interview that was taped after the special aired. They are standing behind her and still pointing the finger back at Corey - "consider the source", etc.

A very interesing MSNBC article states that Corey's book was available online last night one minute after the special ended. Lovely. And that he is refusing to help Fox investigate his claims, stating "they never did anything for me, why should I do anything to help them", or similar. I guess he is forgetting that no one would know who he is if not for AI.

ARTICLE - Interesting


Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
American Idol Producers Relaease Statment in Response to Fallen Idol
Fox has released the following statement to the media in response to the Primetime Live Fallen Idol special.

"We have concerns about the motives behind last night’s purported news special, as much of it was filled with rumor, speculation and assertions from a disqualified contestant who admitted during the special to telling lies. Regardless, we are absolutely committed to the fairness of this competition. We take any accusations of this nature very seriously, no matter their source, and we have already begun looking into them.


Despite documented procedures and multiple opportunities, as well as contractual requirements for contestants to raise any concerns, we were never notified or contacted by Mr. Clark or any other individual, nor presented any evidence concerning these claims.

Upon recently hearing rumors of Mr. Clark’s claims, we contacted him and requested that he detail his accusations to us. That has yet to happen.

It should also be noted that the ultimate decision on which contestants move forward on “American Idol” has always been determined by the voting public. We have gone to great lengths and great expense to create a voting system that is fair and reliable. Judges may offer opinions, but viewers vote using their own subjective criteria; and it is the voters who ultimately determine each season’s American Idol."

http://www.realitytvmagazine.com/blog/2005/05/american_idol_p.html

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Paula Abdul Fights Back After Ex-Idol Gossips 5/5/05

Furious American Idol judge Paula Abdul has hit back at claims she romanced a former contestant on the show by claiming the disgruntled wannabe singer illegally taped a phone interview with her and then doctored what she said.

Corey Clark, who was dismissed from the second series of the show when details of his lawbreaking past was revealed, went public with claims of favoritism and his Abdul romance on US news show Primetime Live last night (04MAY05).

And the 1980s pop icon is hitting back with claims Clark tricked her into saying certain buzz words and then editing a taped conversation that made it look as if Abdul was courting him.

A source tells US news show Celebrity Justice, "The tape was edited out of context to make Paula look bad."

Another insider tells the show that Clark allegedly told Abdul on the phone, "American Idol f**ked me," and "I have nothing to lose".

The same source tells the show that a producer from an entertainment show overheard this conversation and that at one point a clicking sound could be heard. Paula then asked Corey, "Are you taping me?"

STORY

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Corey Clark got kicked off AI for that ridiculous picture with the blue ski cap and matching blue turtle. 5 will getcha 10 that Paula picked it out for him, and this is his revenge. I'd be pissed too if I were Corey. He looked like a total nerdwhack, like from that "Winter A-Go-Go" movie.

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
For GAL:



Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Usually, you can judge the merits of a he said/she said case by seeing what's in it for the accuser.

In Corey Clark's case, if he's lying about a torrid tryst with Paula Abdul, he's doing it to sell a CD and get a book deal.

If Clark is telling the truth, then...he's doing it to sell a CD and get a book deal.

Why else did this "American Idol" wannabe, kicked off the show two years ago for lying about his criminal record, suddenly lurch forward to smear the Fox show's mother-hen judge just when he's trying to jump-start his career?

Actually, Clark offered an alternative explanation for his sleazeball self-promotion, and it came off as kind of illiterate:

"At the end of the day I'm not here to prove my case one way or the other," he said. "I'm just here to let people know what was really going down on my side of the fence."
ABC's sweeps-week show was long on hype and so short on substance it made Dan Rather's Memogate look like the model of investigative journalism.

The corn-braided crooner said Abdul coached him on song selection, helped buy him clothes to wear on television and eventually initiated a sexual relationship...then proudly announced on "Good Morning, America" that he won't assist Fox's internal investigation because "I don't have any interest in helping `American Idol' out whatsoever, because they haven't helped me out whatsoever."

Motive, you want motive?

"For me, it's hard to believe at this point," said Clay Aiken, who shot to fame as an "Idol" contestant. "I know both parties involved. I guess I'm biased in some ways. It's kind of my nature to believe Paula, who I know to be a nurturing and caring person. She was like that for everybody on the show. She was always the judge who was willing to give advice and willing to be supportive and willing to be nurturing. So I think that's just her nature."

The centerpiece of ABC's shameful ratings grab were alleged records of phone calls between Paula and Corey, none of which appeared to have been scrutinized by the network's fact-checkers.

And some of the lovey-dovey details dished out by Clark come off as too outrageous for belief. Would Paula seriously accompany her kept boy to a record store to pick out CDs or to a boutique to select his next outfit? Wouldn't a clerk recognize her? Why didn't one?

Clark's breathy, confessional hip-hop song that played throughout the broadcast wasn't half-bad. I won't buy it

http://www.readingeagle.com/editor/archives/2005/05/corey_clarks_ly.html

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh, Paula, that was probably the weakest explanation you could offer.
If she had done nothing, it would not have been out of line for her to call him (btw, how did she know his number??) to say "don't reply to the press, I not going to dignify it either"

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Blech, Bonza. .

Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
the disgruntled wannabe singer illegally taped a phone interview with her

That should have been Pat O'Brien's excuse.

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
And speaking of phones.... and phone records... could ABC have obtained Paula's phone records, both land & cell???? Because those phone documents that were barely shown on camera, the ones that made it look like they had numerous, long conversations - he would have had to make them all to her unless they were able to obtain her records as well.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
GAL, ITA with your post a few pages back about his body language and eye movement indicating he was not being truthful when he was responding to certain questions.

Also, he is delusional to think that the American public is going to pony up $15 to buy a CD of his whining about his "relationship" with Paula! Paulatics - yeah that is a song I want to hear on Top 40 NOT.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It is really pathetic that while Corey whines about Paula and AI "using" him, he doesn't seem to realize that he is currently being "used" by ABC.

Another Dana from "Diff'rent Strokes".

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If he really did forge the tape and ABC didn't catch it, they are going to have to do some explaining. Maybe this was a Dan Rather story originally.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ok... I'm not an AI fan, so this perspective comes from someone who doesn't have an emotional attachment or interest in this show. That being said...

...I watched the Fallen Idol program and really didn't know to make of Corey and his claims until he claimed to have a broken heart. That's what put this whole thing into perspective for me, and made me laugh out loud. WHAT BULL HOCKEY!!! This boy no more has a broken heart than my Aunt Fannie... Who's he trying to con? ABC...that's who!!!

I think Corey has successfully conned ABC into broadcasting a one hour commercial featuring Corey and his talents... at least that is the impression I got.. why else would it be so important to have so much footage devoted to Corey singing?

Also... a bit off topic... but am I the only one who thinks Corey's speaking voice sounds quite a bit like Michael Jackson's?

Lori
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04-18-2003

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wonder if anyone in power at AI will be allowed to examine the phone records, prescription bottle and taped conversations to see if they are in fact legitimate.

Gotta say if Paula did mess with Corey she has really really bad taste. Shudder!


Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i really dont care,they were both adults,hes an opertunist, and if paula is taken off the show, i think the show will just not be the same, i cant even think of any one that could feel her spot that i would care to watch, so i hope they save paula..

Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
how stupid is fox and paula to still be talking about this. They should have just said, it is what it is, next.