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Donut
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07-31-2001

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, i dont see it here, so i will post it..
Anyways, apparently Carrie's song Angels Brought me Here was presented as an original, yet it was sung by the Australian idol on AI3, and it was #1 in australia and a top hit for 40 weeks and platinum etc, whereas Bo's song was never heard before. I think that is just another in the line of valid conspiracy points. Theres a lot about it at the idolonfox website. It's a huge advantage to have a bonafide hit that is proven with audiences and familiar to some. and song choice does matter. So lets add this one to the food poisoning, the set up by the judges, esp Simon, the order of their songs on the record (in order of when they get kicked off), and last but not least the disappearing news article in The Independent in England that stated that she won three days ago, and was written by a very solid, award winning writer who happens to be known for exposing big business. ok, i could just conspiricize all nite, but time for sleep...(gotta warm up the conspiracizing muscles for BB...)

Egbok
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I enjoyed the show tonight. Lots of good TV viewing. Congratulations to Carrie.

Willsfan
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09-04-2000

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I went to a watch party for Carrie in Muskogee but not at the Civic Center. Lots of fun but I should have taped it because I couldn't hear much of the time what they were showing on TV because some people could not keep their mouths shut! I did however tape Lost but haven't viewed it yet. (I hope it's good}

I was surprised Carrie won, not because Bo is better but because of all the talk of them wanting a rocker to win this year. I'm sure Bo will do well and come out with a good selling CD.

This upcoming year will be an intense learning experience for Carrie.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
my ds lives in san diego. his best friend from high school lives about a mile from him. my son doesn't watch AI once the funny try-outs are over...so he calls me tonight and asks if i know "who a Bo is on AI?". turns out his friend is renting a room from Bo's lady cousin, a gal in her 40's. small world sometimes.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
wills, lost is phenomenal tonight!!!

Babyboo
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06-16-2003

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have had it with this show, i will never cast another vote for anyone again, the whole thing is fixed and i am convinced of that, and why is it that Simple Simon, Paula and Randy always agree on who the winner is and they are always right, It's fixed.

Max
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08-12-2000

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I predict that they will both have very successful CDs. Part of me agrees with that article that someone posted the other day from TVgasm (I think) where they said something about hoping Bo didn't win because it would lock him into the insipid pop category and he's more versatile than that.

Loved all the big-name stars performing with the kids! Always love Skynyrd and Bo sounded great! If he cuts a CD of Southern Rock, I will buy a copy.

I hope they let Carrie sing with a country flair. She excells at that. :-)

When all is said and done, it will be interesting to see if we have another Rueben/Clay situation.

Jbean
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01-05-2002

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 11:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i do not think it was rigged....if you look at the past it would have been bo's turn to win...a white male...something idol has never had....kelly, ruben, fantasia....if it was rigged it would have been bo. i was pleasantly suprised. i am not a big fan of southern rock, so was very happy that carrie won...i tried to vote for her for several hours and MAYBE got 20 votes in! so yay carrie! woo hoo! carrie reminds me of a shy kelly....and i love kelly, so there ya go. i think her stage presence will improve!

go carrie!


Stcroix
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03-18-2005

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 11:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maris--
I cant believe your "middle aged women" theory!! You know we boomers grew up with rock and roll! All us 50 somethings made 'idols' out of the Stones,Led Zepplin,Lennerd Skinnerd,ect.
I love this message board! It's the nicest one of the 3 I browse. I'm going to miss it! .... till Big Brother in July!

Jbean
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01-05-2002

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 11:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
no need to miss it, stcroix, stick around, there are many other threads here besides AI and BB, this is an awesome place to be part of.


Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 12:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Congrats to Carrie! Hurry Big Brother!

'Night all...

Max
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08-12-2000

Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 12:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The only thing I would have liked better tonight was Bo singing my favorite Skynyrd song WITH Skynyrd -- "Give Me Three Steps". I bet he'd be GREAT on that song. :-)

Stcroix
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03-18-2005

Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 12:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thank you Jbean-- I will come back and visit often. In my 'grief' over AI being over I forgot about all the other discussions I've enjoyed in here! In the general discussions thread so many people helped me when I asked for suggestions about what my new grandson should call me. Lots of nice people here!

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 12:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just got to the thread, am working tonight, as always.

I am totally disgusted and I really don't care if I piss anyone off. I'll read the rest of the thread after I get this off my chest. I am so not EVER a sore loser, but this bites the big one.

Carrie totally sold herself out last night <el>, with her freakin "Independance Day" song. <el> Shame on you, Carrie, you couldn't win it with talent so you sold yourself. <el>

<el>

And who the hell ever heard of the people she sang with on tonight's show? Of course, I avoid country music like some people avoid anchovies, but really has anyone ever heard of these people?

Bo, on the other hand had the honor of singing, backed by a very famous band. Oh, and in case no one noticed, Sweet Home Alabama IS a country song.

Until last night's performances, I }}}thought Carrie was a nicely talented, if robotic, singer. Now I think she is just a sell-out who deserves the obscurity she will find in a few months.

SORRY BO, WE TRIED OUR BEST. BUT YOU REALLY DON'T NEED THIS CRAP ANYWAY. GO BO!!}}



Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 12:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh, just one more thing!!!

I thought the duet with Carrie and Bo was just wonderful. Couldn't have been better.

I thought that all of the group performances were good except the last one with Babyface and the girls. Babyface was fine, the girls seemed a bit off.

Vonzell's performance was spectacular.

Anthony and Scott were really good too.

These performances were meant to get people excited about the Idols Tour this summer, and I'm sure it worked.

I loved seeing Constantine again, and I got a kick out of his acting bit in the Simon skit.

If the Idols come to Arco Arena again this year, and IF I'm not on vacation if they do, and IF I can afford it, I would definately go see them.

For me, this was by far the most talented group AI has ever had. I think that Mikalah (sp) was the only one of the final 12 who wasn't such a good singer, but her personality is too cute. I definately see a future for her in show biz.

So except for the final 4 minutes, I think this season of AI rocked. Maybe there is another Clay or Bo out there for next season. And I'll get my little heart broken again.

Ok, that was more than ONE more thing, but I did want to mention all of the things I thought were really great about AI 2005.

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 1:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ok, I simply clearly stated that Carrie sold out to persons of certain political leanings. That she pandered to their votes.

BO didn't. As the judges said over and over, with Bo you get the real thing. With Carrie, you get what sells in the Bible Belt. (Hopefully, that is not mod-er-able)

Meli456
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05-01-2003

Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 2:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sunrvrose, ITA about the Independence Day song. My stomach did a sick little turn when she sang that song last night. I don't think she did it on purpose to pander, but look where she's from.

<c>

I thought for sure Bo would win, so I was surpised. I just stopped watching in the middle of Carrie's last song. She seems like a nice girl but she doesn't make me pull for her one bit.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 3:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Stcroix I am going to be a grandmother for the first time. In what thread is the discussion about what a child can call a grandmother? I need to read that! Gramma just won't work for me.

I agree with you on the middle aged woman comment. I am middle aged too, well, that is if I live to be 120.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 4:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That was the worst renditions of "Walk this way" that I have ever heard.

Steven Tyler is turning over in his grave. ;D

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 4:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thankfully, Steven is still alive, but that rendition was terrible! Had to get out my Aerosmith CD so my kids could hear it done right!
I thought Vonzell and Billy Preston were haunting together. Not a big country fan but loved Carrie and Rascal Flats, thought their harmony was beautiful. Not the best I have heard Lynyrd Skynyrd play, but lordy, I do love them and they bring all sort of wonderful flashback on! LOL

I much prefer Bo's music (my generation) but did not particularly care for his singing (to me, every song sounded like David Clayton Thomas of Blood, Sweat and Tears.) Not a country fan at all, but I thought Carrie overall gave better and varied performances week after week.

I would have been happy either way. Still rather disgusted that more people......way more people voted for AI than for President.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 4:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My point was that there is an older segment of the population that does not like Rock and Roll and Bo's type of music would not appeal to them. Carrie, has an appeal that would cross all age groups and demographics which is why I was not the least surprised that Carrie won.



Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 5:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    


On ''American Idol'''s most action-packed season finale ever, farm girl Carrie gets the blue ribbon, beating out Southern rocker Bo by Michael Slezak



Wow, am I glad I set my VCR to tape Lost so I could watch American Idol live instead. Like a McGriddle sandwich, the two-hour season finale was bizarre, yet tasty. It had syrupy goodness (I'm not her biggest fan, but Carrie's aw-shucks victory performance was kinda sweet), didn't skimp on the meat (a funny Prime Time Live spoof and some rockin' performances), and was loaded with cheese (A-Fed, Anwar, and Kenny G., together at last). Yes, folks, I was lovin' it!

The funny thing is, after the fairly lackluster final-performance show, my expectations for tonight were pretty low, and many EW.com readers felt the same way. ''The singers have been put through the ring of fire, and America will make the decision — but why saddle them with rotten songs?'' Karla asked after watching Tuesday night's show. ''Every season the biggest disappointment is having to listen to the top Idols sing absolute junk in the finals, knowing this will be their single!''

Karla was among the scads of readers who were disappointed by the songs the show's producers picked for Bo and Carrie, although Steve had an interesting suggestion: Limit the singers to one piece of Idol treacle, one song of their own choice, and for a finale, have each contestant perform a song previously sung by his or her competitor.

But after watching tonight, here's my suggestion for future ''Idol'' finales: Don't change a thing! I was a little nervous when Ryan Seacrest introduced the all-star jam by noting, ''What you are about to see is pure chemistry,'' but for once, Snarky McSnarkenstein got it right. When Carrie started singing with Rascal Flatts, I could suddenly see the point of all those message-board posters who promised she'd eventually grow into a polished performer with soul. Bo, of course, couldn't have been more of a rock god on ''Sweet Home Alabama,'' especially backed by Lynyrd Skynyrd, but what else did you expect?


Better still: the combined entertainment value of watching the remaining 10 finalists paired with established music stars. Not to say all of them were good, exactly, but they were entertaining for sure. Vonzell proved exactly why she made the final three by virtue of a positively smokin' duet with Billy Preston: Baby V looked unbelievably gorgeous, and free of competitive pressure, she gave her most relaxed, soulful performance to date. Someone sign this woman to a deal — stat!

A-Fed and Anwar proved where they belong as well — on your local easy-listening station — performing the bombastic ''I Believe I Can Fly'' exactly the way it should be: with unabashed melisma. Like fast food, both of these boys are best consumed in small quantities, but it was a total guilty pleasure putting them together with Kenny G and letting each one try to out-sing the other. I was worried Anwar might pop a blood vessel, especially with that tenor sax all up in his ear. Yikes!

Oh, and speaking of yikes... Um, Babyface? Can we talk? I'm not exactly sure what kind of deal you made with Fox executives, but whatever you're getting out of them — mad cash, your own reality show, a ''Babyface night'' on the next season of Idol — it was not worth the high price of performing with Lindsey Cardinale and Mikalah Gordon. Bad enough that neither one is capable of stringing two good notes together, but getting pawed mid-performance by a warbling Mikalah — hot off an encounter with her hotel tanning bed and a bottle of peroxide — well, it's not right. But it's okay, from a purely I-can't-believe-what's-on-my-screen point of view, anyway.

No matter which contestants you rooted for this season, it was great to see them raise their game in the presence of seasoned vets. Constantine, Nadia, and Jessica (embracing that trash-tastic vibe that could've taken her further in the competition) rocked pretty convincingly on ''Walk This Way,'' and Scott and Nikko sounded a'ight too, once George Benson took over the lead vocals on ''On Broadway.''

The show was so spot-on tonight, in fact, that it largely succeeded in its attempts at humor. Simon's incredulous ''They're all drunk'' to loopy La Toya London (note that she failed to argue with his contention), that little kid from Alabama drawling about Simon's use of ''reverse psychology,'' Matt Rogers hitting on the first lady of Oklahoma... if only every reality-show finale contained so much spontaneous hilarity.

And bonus points for the spoof of Paula's Corey Clark scandal. The payoff — Simon is having an affair with himself — didn't match the preceding footage, but watching Randy drive around with a ''journalist'' to the scene of the crime (complete with a stop-off for doughnuts) and pay a visit to a baby-T shop...priceless! And the sight of Paula gettin' jiggy behind the control panels of a recording studio left me wondering how the heck I'm going to spend my Tuesday and Wednesday nights without her off-kilter presence.

I was laughing so hard and getting so into the groove, I didn't even have time to mope (too much) about Carrie springing an upset and snatching the Idol crown off Bo's silky brown tresses. The result is sure to disappoint a lot of EW.com readers, as you seemed to favor Bo on the message boards by a (very unscientific) 65-35 split.

Still, even some Bo fans felt Carrie's show of emotion on Tuesday was enough to earn her victory. ''I've been a Carrie-basher all season, but last night she blew me away,'' wrote Laura. ''I had to pick up the phone and vote for her. And I hope she wins.''

The cleverly named Reuben Kincaid (Partridge Family fans, take note!) chimed in that Carrie had shown true evolution in the competition: ''She was inexperienced where Bo is experienced — and she really has come a long way. Bo is unwittingly cool, with his nifty garb and usage of the term 'cats,' but Carrie, I think, has more long-term potential.''

And Amanda made the argument that when it comes time to cut an album, Carrie — not her critics — will get the last laugh. ''While I can't give Carrie a more apt description than 'Robovox' or 'fembot' (could she exhibit less emotion and personality onstage?), she has the vocal ability to make an awesome record,'' Amanda wrote. ''And that's why I buy a CD. Yeah, Britney Spears is a great performer with tons of personality, but have I EVER paid my hard earned money for one of her CDs? No! Because the girl can't sing! Based on talent, Carrie should win.''

Still, members of the Bice Squad can keep their heads up, as there's certainly enough of us to make our man an Idol — at least on the sales charts. ''Bo is a breath of fresh air,'' wrote Melissa, ''and that boy could come sing me to sleep any night. I don't usually get to watch because of work, but someone left the show on in our breakroom, and as soon as I heard that voice (I didn't know at all who it belonged to at the time) I couldn't stop listening. Bo, you have my vote and no matter what happens, your album will be in my hands the first day it is out!''

Now, I'm not sure I want Bo singing me a lullaby every night when I finish watching BBC World News — certainly not if he's sporting those flip-flops — but Melissa, I really couldn't have said it better myself.


http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,1065831_3_0_,00.html

Kittystj
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08-10-2001

Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 5:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am 75 and I loved Bo. I won't waste my money on Carrie.
Clay is my true Idol.