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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 1:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Love love love Anwar!! Bo too!! But others very good.

I think this year's social engineering attempt may bite them in the butt, because there are SO MANY good guy singers this time and now they are setting it up to go into final 10? 12? with equal numbers of guys and girls and frankly, there are more good guys this year. I know they did this to protect the guys but I think it could backfire.

I blew it.. should have watched this live so I could vote.



Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 7:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maris, I agree. Nikko and Bo are my favorites at this point.

Anwar is a beautiful man and genuine but his style does not call to me.

Essence
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01-12-2002

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Last night my favorite was Nikko. I'm a little disappointed in David (he was my favorite going in). I hope he can last another week, but I'm not so sure.

It wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit if Constantine left this competition. I think Bo is much better than he is.

I think Joseph & David are in trouble for Wednesday night. I would throw Constantine in there, but I know he has fans that will probably save him.

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 7:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Watching my tape, David was terrible and I hated Constantine's performance imo he can't sing

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 7:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree that David & Constantine's singing were the most lacking. But Constantine's fan base will keep him going a little bit longer (the benefit of the early exposure during the auditions). Bo is much the better singer - and even had the right moves last night.

Travis had the moves, but doesn't have the voice.
Too early to tell if the tween girl vote will keep him or if American will realize that he is just not AI material.

Scott has the voice, but still doesn't have the moves (however, you can tell the stylist have been working on him, like Clay's transformation, and working on his moves as well). His voice may keep him going but he is in danger this week.

Joseph is also in trouble. But I thought he was worse than Judd last week so maybe Joe has his own little voracious phone-in fan club as well.

Glad it wasn't just me who though Simon was very unusually "nice" and provided constructive comments (except for the one about the background computer graphics playing on the screen behind Anthony - I think he wanted to say something snarky but might have been under orders to be nice after all the flack from last week???).

'squeek'

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think they all took a lot of heat for their performances (I mean the judges). Comments were made to Paula about her "choice of song" comments the week before and it was obvious,that the performers were treated with a little more respect. We will see how they handle Wednesday's show. If the show on Wednesday is as bad as last weeks, I will just skip the Wednesday show altogether.

Scout
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01-20-2005

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 8:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree, Maris. They seemed very different. When Ryan first started to introduce them, Randy and Paula especially looked really nervous about what Ryan might say. They certainly were stressing the good comments and not the bad. Simon had to have been told to pull back. Most of the time, you can tell he just loves being up there making his nasty comments - he always looks like the class trouble-maker who wants attention so badly and finds out he gets a lot by acting negatively. Whenever he makes his nastiest comments, he always looks to Paula and smiles like it's the funnest game he's ever played. I think Simon abuses his power because he has his own forum to do so. I'm hoping that the response from last Wednesday's show was strong enough to get through to him that some of us don't watch the show because of his performance.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 8:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My little girl (8 on Sunday) LOVED Constantine - so there goes the "young" vote...LOL...although I didn't let her vote!

I think the judges were a lot more pleasant tonight and I also think the performances were better overall.

I'm with you Essence, I so thought David Brown would be shining in this competition and so far he hasn't - I guess his nerves have gotten the better of him and his song choices have not been good - would like to see him sing something upbeat if he survives.

I like Anwar but he doesn't do anything for me. So far my favorites are (and this surprises me that I would put him first) Nikko, Bo, Mario, Anwar, David (I'm hoping he survives).

Least favorites (in no particular order)- Scott, Travis (all flash), Constantine (ditto), Antony (I don't get the Clay comparisons - he has no charisma which Clay had in spades)and Joseph (I can't even remember his name - had to go to Idol webpage - not a good sign...LOL).

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 8:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What people miss about the Clay appeal and make the wrong comparison is that while Clay was dorky, he was a genuine dork. I wasnt crazy about Clay, being a Ruben fan but he had a natural appeal which is what sets the stars apart. Anthony doesnt shine in anyway at all. It isnt about being clean cut and dorky looking, you have to have some charisma and Anthony has none. A pretty voice that is about all he has.

No matter who wins they have to have personality. It is the person with the unique personality who will win this thing. My money is on Nikko or Bo for the men in final two. The women I am not sure about yet, just hope it isnt mikalah.

Ilovethecoach
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09-10-2003

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 9:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Bo is awesome! I realize most of the AI's of the past showcase hip-hop style artists, but my fingers are crossed for Bo!

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 9:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
who do you all think simon "had in mind" when he said he had someone in mind to be the american idol?
my guess is he thinks either anwar or nikko...

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Nikko, Bo or Carrie - would be my guess.

Highlighter
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09-03-2003

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tabby, I think the judges actually *want* a rocker in the forefront. It opens up a new market for them. I think they will try to nudge Bo through to the end, using their subtle and not-so-subtle tricks. How many episodes before they show his sob story to bring him the additional sympathy vote (and so far, I've been impressed with the sound quality equality, compared to last year. It seemed like last season, they started early on on using the background sound to drown out certain people and to influence the voting....wonder how long decent background sound will last....)

And as much as I felt sorry for the people booted last week for not getting much exposure, I also think that some of the early exposure will bite the butts of some of the guys. Particularly Constantine, who came across as smug when dumping his band (and still does), and Scott, who was portayed early on as being a real Stone emotionally (and I mean that in a negative way). Any "warming up" he does from this point onward will seem fake, IMHO.

Like someone else said, Travis is a beautiful male. I could see him in acting or modeling.

Highlighter
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09-03-2003

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This is going to sound terrible, but I will say it anyway. I hope someone other than Nikko wins, simply because I want the "fairy tale", someone who *needs* it to win. I know, it's contrary to what I've said in the past; that only voice quality should matter. But really, Nikko is from "Town and Country", Missouri, which is about as ritzy as you can get. Many, if not most, of the others have struggled to get the musical break.

Oh, well. Just another opinion.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
But I also think Bo made a mistake last night saying that he made his job fire him so he could get unemployment - that might rub a lot of hard-working people the wrong way...here he is in Hollywood, probably living in a nice hotel with comped meals, etc. (of course I realize the bills still need to get paid at home!). I think that would have been one of those things that would have been better left unsaid.

Travis opened mouth stuck foot in also...forget about my grandma - I want it for me! Came across rather arrogant IMO - which is kind of already why I didn't like him. Just think he is a lot more impressed with himself than I am of him.

Ilovethecoach
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09-10-2003

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the person Simon has in mind is Carrie. He mentioned on Regis and Kelly a few weeks ago that he was very impressed with a blonde country singer (I am paraphrasing) that is on the show this season.

I hope Bo did not rub people the wrong way with the unemployment comment. Who knows??? The public is so fickle!

I think Scott has a lot of ground to make up after he acted like such a brat during auditions. Remember how he ditched his group for hours and acted very arrogant?

Do you guys really think Anwar is great or do you think his "look" has a lot to do with his appeal? Just wondering....

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 11:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My reaction to that was the unemployment folks are going to come after him to prove what he has been doing to look for gainful employment while he collects his money. I can just see them calling him in for an interview on a wednesday and he misses a live vote.

I disagree about Nikko, I think he is a nice kid and it shouldnt be held against him that his father is a multimillionaire. You dont know his personal situation, is he being supported by his parents or is he out on his own. Even if he didn't pay for that $600 suit all by himself, I think he has the whole package and I dont believe everyone has to "suffer for their art"

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Once again, Lexie sits next to Maris, because Maris is always in her head

Jami
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10-08-2003

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 12:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
one thing about Bo and the unemployment is that he said he collected it for a couple of months. I would imagine that was between the auditions and the start of the show. I know that some auditions were held in my area in August. So he may have been fired for a couple of months before he left for Hollywood and used his unemployment checks to tide him over until he went to Hollywood. And now I feel sure he is considered employed,,,at least temp enployment. They are paid each week some scale salary.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 12:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don’t think we should hold Nikko’s background against him anymore than I think people should have voted for or against Fantasia because she was a single mother.

Having said that, I think that the entire package that a performer presents is particularly important on a show like this. It is important to be personable and likeable, because each performer’s personality is heavily featured. Therefore, I cringed when Bo made the unemployment comment and when Travis made the comment about his grandmother.

With respect to the performances, at this point I’m prepared to support anyone who is good and different. I’m tired of the cookie cutter approach. I find it boring. So for the men, Bo stands out to me as the one that is the most entertaining. I really like Anwar a lot based on his personality and pure vocal ability, but his song selection and performance so far has not been as good as it could be. I feel pretty indifferent about the rest, though Scott hasn’t been able to win me back yet. There’s something about him that makes me uncomfortable and the camera angles that they use when he sings are very unflattering.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 4:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I started out with Anwar as my favorite, but his performances have been very flat (not musically). He doesnt seem to invest himself emotionally in the songs and ultimately that is what I look for. I want to listen to someone who becomes part of the song. At this point I just dont see that Anwar has that. Nice guy but....

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 5:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I still like Anwar the best. It's still early, so that might change. I think they have singled out Mario as a favorite this year--showcase performances in consecutive weeks--and they know the Latin-pop market is missing superstars at this point, which is the void Mario can ostensibly fill.

I also don't care about Nikko's family having money. Hell, if penury were a criteria for singing stardom, Carly Simon would never have a career. I wish my father owned Simon and Schuster like her papa did; then I could be famous, too. Mock. Yeah. Ing. Yeah. Bird. Yeah.

The "rockers"--and I use that term loosely because rock sounds more like Green Day than anything I have heard on this show AFAIK--bore me. Is it the 70s again? Rock used to be revolutionary. These gentlemen treat it as if it's a pair of old Rockports.

I really, really like Scott's voice. I don't care what he did in the auditions. He's doing some really pretty blue-eyed soul. Maybe he can front a reconstituted version of Simply Red.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 5:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
and don't forget that Mr. Simon Cowell comes from an affluent family with big entertainment connnections. He may have started in the mailroom but someone got him the job. (I just happened to read his autobiography........)

Rabbit
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 5:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Blue eyed soul ... hmmm ... Maybe he can replace Oates, and Daryl will let him sing. They can be Hall and Savol, or Scott can change his name to Darrel. Hi, I'm Daryl and this is my brother Darrell.

I can't go for that ... no can do ...



Azriel
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
and Scott, who was portrayed early on as being a real Stone emotionally (and I mean that in a negative way). Any "warming up" he does from this point onward will seem fake, IMHO.

I disagree with this. I think that the superior attitude that we saw from Scott in the beginning was fake. I think he separated himself from the group, because if you are never part of the group then you can't feel rejected by the group.

I've noticed his interaction with the contestants in the last few shows and I think he feels accepted and a part of this group and that we are now seeing the 'real' Scott. When he is on the sidelines watching the others perform, he looks genuinely interested and he has made many supportive gestures to others. I don't think he could be faking all of that.

I'm still not a huge fan, but I'm glad that he is having the chance to show us that he isn't as big an ass as we all thought at first.


Azriel
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 7:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
As far as the performance go last night, WOW! The guys are so good. Bo's performance just blew me away! He has now replaced Anwar as my fav. When he got through singing, I turned to my bf and told him that when the Idol tour comes to Singapore this year, I am going the first day they sell tickets and buying us some. I've never wanted to go before.

I really wish we could just get rid of 3 of the girls this week and Constantine. Constantine is going to be the thorn in my side this season. I don't understand what anyone sees in him. Blahhhh. I would love to hear any of the rest of the guys sing again.

I'm not so much on the Nikko train. I think he sings really well, but I don't think he has enough charisma.

Travis has plenty of charisma, but his singing doesn't blow me away. I smiled all during his performance, though.

Anwar sings so perfectly, but his performances are turning into a monotone collage to me. They all blend together and end up looking the same. It's like, I'm not looking forward to his next performance so much because I know it will be the same.

Mario just has something and I really like seeing him perform. I don't think he can win, but I hope he is around for a lot longer.

I was glad that Anthony lost the suit this week. I enjoy hearing him sing, but I don't think he is going to be around much longer.

It looked like someone was giving all of the contestants fashion hints this week. Scott looked so much better with those glasses and the layered shirt look. I wish Scott would sing a fun song. He is starting to sound the same and he needs to shake it up and show us something else.

It seems the pressure and the nerves have David all bottled up. When he sings, you know it's there, but he just can't seem to turn it loose.

I'm not super wild about Joseph. I don't like the songs he has sang so far. I wish he would do something different.

If I was choosing who went home this week it would be Constantine and Joseph. Unfortunately, I think that it will be Joseph and Scott going home.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 8:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i don't understand the intense dislike of constantine. i didn't find his quitting the band to be 'smug', either. do i think he's a great singer? no, not for this competition, but i don't dislike him. he's like a puppy.
however, those i EXPECTED to be great singers are the one who are disappointing me. i never expected a rocker to make it very far in AI, because i don't think the judges want a rocker to win. i have been particularly disappointed with david and i keep hoping for more out of anwar. last night i thought nikko was the best, but i think mario has more 'appeal'. i don't like the comparisons between anthony and clay (i did appreciate maris' comments!).

Highlighter
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09-03-2003

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 8:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't say I *agreed* with the logic of not thinking Nikko should win; I said that's how I *felt*. Heck, I even loved his father back when his father played ball there and I thought it was really cool when I heard his son was in the competition. Maybe it's because of being from St. Louis and knowing the area where Nikko's coming from. I can't help not wanting it for him. Which is surprising, since last year I was adamant about wanting the singer with the best voice to win, regardless of appearance, showmanship, and background (and I didn't think she did win-JMHO :-).

Azriel, if you are right about Scott, then I feel sorry for him. If he leaves soon, I think he's gonna think it's because of his appearance (hasn't he made several comments about it?), which I don't think is the case at all. I'm surprised that he would even think it after Ruben won. Man, the judges are harping big time on performance this year.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 8:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i still wish latoya had won last year!

Azriel
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 8:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tabbyking, I don't have an intense dislike for Constantine. I just don't think he is of the same caliber as the rest of the singers and I don't think he belonged in the finals to begin with, solely based on his voice. I have an intense dislike for the people voting for him just because they like his personality whether he can sing or not. I guess it is more accurate if I say, that the Constantine supporters will be a thorn in my side this season. :-)

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 8:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
sorry, Az, didn't necessarily mean you on the constantine thing! i don't dislike him and i am finding i don't think many of the guys are very great. this is like the bachelor where every week we hear, "the most surprising rose ceremony yet" or something like that...i kept hearing this was "the most talented group yet"...and i think they aren't anything compared to last year or the year before!

Darrellh
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07-21-2004

Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 9:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
From Rabbit:

Blue eyed soul ... hmmm ... Maybe he can replace Oates, and Daryl will let him sing. They can be Hall and Savol, or Scott can change his name to Darrel. Hi, I'm Daryl and this is my brother Darrell.

Grrrrrrrrrr!