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Hobbs
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08-05-2002
| Friday, March 25, 2005 - 7:10 pm
The first couple of contestants that were voted off in the semi-finals said that they thought it was because they were not shown much during the audition shows. AI officials strongly disagreed, including the judges who said they just didn't bring their game. I propose that Mikalah would never had made it through the semi's if it wasn't for her face time in the audition shows. We were "treated" to her "fun" personality. We got to see her sing to Simon that he was talking during her performance. We even got to see Simon say something like he's never seen so much confidence in a 16 year old. I think that face time created a fan base that voted her through even though she was not deserving. She had many weak performances starting in the semi-finals. I hope that next year the producers (and I know some are reading this) will give all the semi finalists an equal amount of time for us to get to know them and for them to be on even ground when the semi's start. All that being said, I still feel that it doesn't matter when each of the top 32 leave, as long as the best 4 or 5 are the top 4 or 5 to fight it out in the end. I just always thought that the contestants that said it was face time were correct in some way. I think Mikalah justifies their claims.
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Watching2
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07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 1:03 am
I agree about Mikalah.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 1:46 am
I agree about Mikalah AND Janay...and SCOTT. He looks sooooo awkward and nervous. His voice is NICE but not really that special considering some of the others who DIDNT make it to final 12 Frankly, I wonder about a few of the people who are still left.
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Maris
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03-28-2002
| Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 6:29 am
I think early face time helped Anwar and as much as I like him the more I see him the more I am convinced he is not American Idol material. He is very limited and I think it is time for him to go. I dont even remember the name of the first girl eliminated but I do recall thinking I dont remember ever seeing her. I agree that Mikalah has endured because of her early face time and the same is true certainly for Constantine. I think it is time for him to go to. obviously the producers try to mold who they want people to push forward because at the end of the day, they want to have a performer who will sell records and earn them more money. Let's face it, who would buy Mikalah's music?
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Alisons
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01-10-2003
| Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 7:04 am
I taped the entire series (minus some accidental erasures and DVR malfunctions) and have been going back and rewatching. I am VERY surprised at how often the final 12 got shown - it seems like every time they picked a room, etc., they focused on the reactions of Carrie, Mario, Anwar, Constantine, etc. There were also a few people eliminated along the way that they showed alot, like "girl who could not remember lyrics" and "guy whose parents were both singers" and "woman who pawned her wedding rings." It is funny because watching these episodes originally I did not notice Mario, but going back through, they showed him just about every single episode. That being said, I do think that we are down to the top talent now, regardless of face time. I would be hard pressed to figure a person who I think should still be around, except maybe that third rocker with the long hair who looked a lot like Bo. I think he had a great voice.
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Sassynegal
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01-21-2005
| Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 8:18 am
Don't you think for some of those though, they really were/are the best and that is why they got so much face time?? Nadia, carrie, Mario There all strong competitors.
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Kittystj
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08-10-2001
| Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 8:40 am
I adored Anwar, couldn't wait to see him. But he is not doing so well. I am hoping he will live up to earlier expectations. but he is SO GORGEOUS!!!!! My friend in England is also watching AI4. She loves Anthony. Carrie might be Simons' favorite, but not mine.
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Babyboo
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06-16-2003
| Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 10:33 am
I don't remember seen Jessica Sierra atall during the auditions but she seem to be doing very well.
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Highlighter
Member
09-03-2003
| Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 5:40 pm
I think the point of this thread was that, when they get down to the final participants that we start voting on, face time *is* crucial. And I would agree. Looking at the ones remaining, I *clearly* remember early footage of Constantine, Mikala, Carrie, Scott (tho I think that was negative), at minimum. I had absolutely NO CLUE about any of the early dumpees who were *voted* off by us. Ie, had no fan base. Based on what I recall from those initial shows, I'm not sure they were the worst, at all. In fact, I remember liking two of them, at least, as much as or more than the remaining contestants. Could they have won? *Who knows*. But the point is, I couldn't tell you their names or what they looked like, or anything because they were just barely on the radar at that point (and mostly after the fact, since I heard them sing on their way out and was surprised that they were being sent home). *Maybe* in future shows, they should have an Intro type episode where they just highlight each of the remaining contestants *prior* to the voting shows. That way, we get a chance to know all the "players" before we hear them. Still, while I think that is a great idea (*pat*pat*), I have misgivings because I think "background story" had a lot to do with propelling Fantasia to the end regardless of her voice (I know, I know, a lot of people liked her, but I've also heard from people who said they voted for her because they felt sorry for her situation)...... But I think it has to be all or nothing, and you know that showing no background would not work, so it's only fair to let everyone start at the same place familiarity wise at the get-go!
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 11:37 pm
I don't think it matters too much. All we saw of Scott during the Hollywood auditions was him being an ass and not wanting to rehearse with his partners. That should have hurt him, IMO, if early face time was taken into account.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, March 28, 2005 - 12:22 am
I guess I was fortunate to have missed the part of the early shows with Scott acting that way. I think he has a good voice, but I personally can't watch him and enjoy his music. NO, it's not just his looks, but it's how awkward he appears on stage. It really makes me uncomfortable!
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Monday, March 28, 2005 - 3:49 am
There is something about Scott that just turns me off. He just seems to have an attitude.
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Sassynegal
Member
01-21-2005
| Monday, March 28, 2005 - 8:15 am
I think Scott feels like he has something to prove. Didn't his dad tell him he wasn't good enough or something. I think his attitude is directed towards those who have told him he was nothing and he wants to show he is something. I admire his confidence - in an industry that depends on looks he is trying to say I am just as good as the next guy no matter what I look like.
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Roxip
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01-29-2004
| Monday, March 28, 2005 - 8:44 am
I don't remember Bo all that much during the auditions - except when they showed "the rockers" as kind of a montage. I remember thinking when the competition really got started "Where have they been hiding this guy!" The only rocker I had a strong impression of before was Constantine. I really don't think it matters that much for me - true talent and appeal is what I vote on - not some canned presentation by the producers.
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Hobbs
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08-05-2002
| Monday, March 28, 2005 - 12:24 pm
Yeh, but don't you think in the case of Mikalah that people had "learned" to like her from seeing her personality shine through during the auditions and Hollywood rounds? Don't you think that those people picked up the phone and voted for her based on seeing her as a likable person? My contention is that if she hadn't been shown so much, the others who we hadn't previously seen would have gotten more votes, because they were better performers. I may be wrong, she had a very strong personality and even if the others had their "time", she might still have beat them out. But at least they would have been all on even ground to start.
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Roxip
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01-29-2004
| Monday, March 28, 2005 - 1:11 pm
I see your point, Hobbs, but since I didn't have a problem with any of the earlier evictees it didn't bother me. If one of the better singers (Bo, Nadia, Anwar, etc.) had gotten voted off in lieu of her (was it Latoya that got voted off before John Stephens last year?) I would have probably gotten more upset. But I try to remember that a great deal of the demographic that watches these shows are young teenagers who think of Brittany Spears as a role model. YUCK! They vote for people that they can identify with. Mikalah's personality irritated me after the first few shows. She was way too young to be that disrespectful, even in a teasing way. She reminded me of a little girl trying to play dress-up. I think her personality worked against her toward the end as much as it worked for her in the early stages. I do agree however that "face time" should be evened out more. I think one of the reasons I don't like Antony very much is because of the sob story element that they put out about his difficulties in childhood - and that's not really fair of me because he really did have some difficult health problems! I think "face time" can work for or against you. Same thing with Scott - I think he is going farther because of the "father never told me I would amount to anything" from his initial interview. Beautiful voice, I agree, but I don't see him as an American Idol.
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Hobbs
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08-05-2002
| Monday, March 28, 2005 - 2:27 pm
Like I always say, as long as the top 4 are the top 4. Roxip, your point about her being like a little girl playing dress up and you reminding me of John Stevens makes me even more convinced they should change the age limit to 18+. I think this show will be around for awhile so the young ones will have their chance.
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