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Archive through April 15, 2005

The TVClubHouse: American Idol/Canadian Idol/Other Talent Shows ARCHIVES: American Idol IV: Paula Abdul: ARCHIVES: Archive through April 15, 2005 users admin

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Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 4:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It was the shoes, bunny boy! You found me out! I turn into Lindsay Lohan (almost) for a pair of Jimmy Choos!

*hangs head in shame*

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 6:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
People don't go to jail for being addicted. They are jailed for procuring prescription drugs illegally or procuing illegal drugs.

I hope she is clean by next season because she is destroying the rapport and balance that has been so enjoyable in past seasons.


Rslover
Member

11-19-2002

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah, so how the heck did Rush Limbaugh get around that one?

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well there is an old saying that says, "The difference between the rich stealing and the poor stealing is that when the poor steal it is illegal." I think it is pretty much the same with drugs - the difference between a rich abuser and a poor abuser is that the rich abuser has a highly paid physician writing legal perscriptions for them.

Conejo
Member

08-23-2002

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Why should it be AI's responsibility to get Paula help? She's an adult and if she needs help she should seek it out.

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 7:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Not their responsibility, but it would be nice if they would assist her rather than allowing her to stay on the air.

Lori
Member

04-18-2003

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Paula is an employee of AI and therefore a reflection on the show. If they are okay with her performing her job under the influence, fine. If not, it is their responsibility to see she receives help.

Conejo
Member

08-23-2002

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maybe they're just hoping she can make it through this season and gets some help while on hiatus.

It seems to me like her unusual behavior came on rather quikcly.....wonder if that hit-n-run had anything to do with it.

Tishala
Member

08-01-2000

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think you have the causality reversed, Conejo. I'd be willing to bet--this is purely conjecture on my part, BTW--that she was not quite sober when she had the accident.

Conejo
Member

08-23-2002

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 7:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tish, you're probably right about that! She has probably been on pain medication for years.....just seems like she finally went over the top and wondered if the hit/run pushed her.

BTW, I had never heard of it being your employers responsibility to see that you receive help.

Crzndeb
Member

07-26-2004

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 7:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Conejo, not neccessarily the responsibility of the employer, but many corporations will try to assist you into getting into a program if you have a problem. They will give you that choice, either get help or get fired if it is affecting your job.

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 7:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am a manager and I would definitely intervene if someone appeared intoxicated at work.

Conejo
Member

08-23-2002

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 7:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Crzndeb, my previous post was in response to Lori's post above which says it is their (the employers) responsibility to see she receives help. However, I do agree that many employers will encourage or assist you in receiving help - or you're out the door.

Llkoolaid
Member

08-01-2001

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Does anyone know for a fact that Paula appears on the show intoxicated. I am sure it is posted here if this is a fact. Just wondering, and way too lazy to read through all this thread. Oh and I don't mean the National Enquirer article, Little Red Riding Hood contains more fact than that trash.

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I do not think that anyone knows for a fact that she IS intoxicated, but she sure as shift APPEARS intoxicated.

Llkoolaid
Member

08-01-2001

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 8:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
So this is all just gossip then. Fine with me , carry on.

Sadiesmom
Member

03-13-2002

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 8:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Let's rephrase this, Paula is having trouble doing her job and is impaired. The cause of the disability is not known, except she has stated several times that she takes heavy medication for her persistant back pain.

The truth of the matter is that I am starting to watch more for what Paula will do than the result of the voting. It has become apparent to the critics, as seen in many reviews, that Paula has issues.
So then it becomes, if you have an employee that has an issue, be it health or personal, should the employer be compelled to participate in resolving such issue.

On other shows in the past, people have been replaced because of illness (bulemia, cancer, exhaustion), drinking or drug abuse. I believe that Paula is at a state of incapacitation that the show must replace her or get her the proper care.

None of this is gossip, just observation.

Kstme
Member

08-14-2000

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 8:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Since this is the first time we've watched AI, I have no previous conception of how she behaved, but all three of us in my family 'think' her behavior has been a bit odd. I saw Paula on 'Less Than Perfect' about a month ago and she looked horrible!!

Personal opinion here...

Sassynegal
Member

01-21-2005

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 8:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think she has been back to her normal ways on AI the past couple of episodes. Not as bad as she was a few weeks ago I guess.

Conejo
Member

08-23-2002

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 9:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
She sure does seem to stand up and dance, sway to the music and clap a lot more than in previous seasons. Could the music be is soooo much better this year that she can't resist her natural response to get her groove on?

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
She is under contract and you can't drag someone off to rehab. I am surprized that both Randy and Simon have not talked to her about interrupting. When Randy shares her opinion it is not enough, she has to join in and talk over him as well as jumping on Simon before he has finished. This is much more irritating than her gushing.

Azriel
Member

08-01-2000

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They haven't talked to her because the Paula watch has become a part of the show. Why would they want to stop her? Look how much we are talking about it. If someone came forward with some actual proof, then I'm sure they would do something, but since there is no proof...if we are talking about Paula then we are talking about AI and to use Bo's words "It's all good."

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I will tell you why they might want to intervene - if she were actually to fall and hurt herself, she could sue their pants off.

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well it explains why she is always gushing about the contestants. None of them can sue her if they get voted out because of her lack of judgement.

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Friday, April 15, 2005 - 7:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
And weighing in, my favorite tv writer from the
Orange County Register:

Getting ready to vote Abdul off 'Idol'

Michael Hewitt thewatcher@ocregister.com

I'm serving notice to the producers of "American Idol." If Paula Abdul is back next year, I'm not. I don't expect that threat to carry much weight by itself, but I know I'm not alone. Water-cooler discussions and fan boards everywhere are abuzz with the same question: What is up with Paula?

All season, viewers have cringed at her bizarre behavior and growing incoherence. I'll admit I found it funny for a couple of episodes. Now I swing between irritation and concern for her well-being. Witness Paula's "critique" of Nadia Turner's performance Tuesday: Paula: "It did kind of, you know, it's like I wanted to be in there with the song, but I felt it was kind of like mmm." Simon Cowell: "You're struggling, aren't you, Paula?" She's struggling? What about us?

To be fair, Paula has never been particularly articulate, nor had much to say on the occasions when she was. Her job was to be the nice judge, so her lack of clarity didn't matter that much. At least she was reasonably restrained.

But, this season, Paula has decided to take over the show, babbling over the top of her fellow judges, exhorting the annoying studio audience to be even more annoying and hopping around during the performances like a 3-year-old on an Otter Pop high. The result is less Simon Cowell and Randy Jackson, the judges whose opinions viewers actually care about -- and more of Paula's ceaseless adoration of mediocrity. At least, I think that's what she is saying.