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Archive through April 19, 2005

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Tishala
Member

08-01-2000

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Alisons, I think you misunderstood what I wrote. I never said anything about only people of X race voting for X contestants. I said that the internet has skewed demographics that don't accurately represent the people actually voting.

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
OK, I guess I do not understand.

Another point may be that there are no "speed dialers" on AOL to skew the results.

Azriel
Member

08-01-2000

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Scott is doing better than most people expect he would do because his fan base is so diverse. His voice has a quality that crosses musical styles.

Also, on the official American Idol board some fan clubs have pushed very hard for their people to vote in the AOL poll, but Scott's fan club The Dawg Pound, have minimized it's importance and pushed for people to just vote where it counts on the phone.

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
AOL has the poll fixed (in other words, Vonzell is back in play:

So.. this morning, without Vonzell we had

Constantine 34%
Carrie 26%
Bo 23%
Anthony 9%
Anwar 5%
Scott 4%

and now, just before 2pm board/west coast time we have:

Carrie 35%
Bo 35%
Constantine 17%
Vonzell 4%
Anwar 4%
Anthony 4%
Scott 2%

Tisha, I agree that the demographics are quite different and in general with regional and AA differences as well..


Anyway once again we have the Carrie and Bo fans surging back ahead of Constantine.

Alisons, not sure if people are using programs to speed vote online.. that certainly can be done, but probably less easily with AOL in between the isp and the user. I could sit here 24/7 and pump in votes if I were so inclined.



Tishala
Member

08-01-2000

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
On tonight's show, Constantine is doing "Nights on Broadway" by the Bee Gees, Anwar is doing "September" by Earth Wind and Fire and Carrie is doing "MacArthur Park" by Donna Summer. More updates as I find them.

[I don't know "September" I don't think. But I MUST know it because I know EW&F. But somehow I think it's a bad choice as the audience tends to go for songs it already knows quite well. Even though I *might* know it. LOL]


Lexie_girl
Member

07-30-2004

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
McArthur Park???? That's like the WORST disco song ever!!!!



Lexie_girl
Member

07-30-2004

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
... and now I'm going to have that damned verse "someone left the cake out in the rain" going through my head for the next two days!!!

Bonzacat
Member

07-08-2003

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tish - great detective work!

I know you know "September"... if I could only hum a few bars for you, you'd name that tune in 5 notes.

"Do you remember the 21st night of september?
Love was changing the minds of pretenders
While chasing the clouds away

Our hearts were ringing
In the key that our souls were singing.
As we danced in the night,
Remember how the stars stole the night away

Ba de ya - say do you remember
Ba de ya - dancing in september
Ba de ya - never was a cloudy day..."


Tishala
Member

08-01-2000

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh OK I do know it. I think Anwar will do it really well.

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Someone left the cake out in the rain......

I am betting she will be cooked after that song.

Tishala
Member

08-01-2000

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I can't wait to hear Carrie-Okie singing the part about "I recall the yellow cotton dress / Flowing like the waves / On the ground beneath your knees. / Birds like tender babies in your hand / And the old men playing / Chinese Checkers by the trees"

LOL. WIll she be able to sing that with a straight face? What weird lyrics. What am I thinking? She worries about NOTES, not lyrics!

For those who don't know, MacArthur Park is overrun by junkies now, at least at night. It's a great place to go if you wanna score some crack or heroin late at night. During the day, it's a good place to go watch Latino families have BBQs and soccer matches. If you go to its eastern border on Alvarado street, you can get a fake driver's license or social security card, too. It's like Disney Land turned inside out.

Jimmer
Member

08-30-2000

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Can someone explain what MacArthur Park (the song lyrics that is) was supposed to mean? Surely it has some deep symbolic meaning doesn't it?

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The MacArthur Park song I am thinking about and I think it is the same one was an endless song sung by Richard harris originally. I think it was just one of those drug induced songs from the sixties like Inagaddadavida (sp) that just went on forever and was about absolutely nothing.

Tishala
Member

08-01-2000

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah I think it's about an LSD trip. I might be wrong about that though.

Lori
Member

04-18-2003

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 4:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ick...I absolutely hate MacArthur Park.

Bonzacat
Member

07-08-2003

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, my brain hurts after Googling MacArthur park, but I found some interesting info:

Songfacts

In the summer of 1967, songwriter Jimmy Webb ("Up Up and Away") composed a 22-minute cantata that ended with a seven-minute coda called "MacArthur Park." He offered it to Bones Howe, who produced The Association, for possible inclusion on the group's fourth LP. Howe loved it, but the group did not want to give up half the album for Webb's project, so they rejected it.

Harris was an actor, not a singer. His performance on this was essentially "acting," as he read the lyrics with a great deal of drama. He recorded this shortly after starring in the movie Camelot. Some of his other films include This Sporting Life, Unforgiven, and Wrestling Earnest Hemmingway. He also played Professor Dumbledore in the first 2 Harry Potter movies.

Webb produced this for Richard Harris, crossing the Atlantic Ocean several times in the process.

Donna Summer recorded a disco version in 1978 that made it to #1 after it was released as a single. Her version was originally part of a 15-minute "suite."

This runs 7:20. At the time, it was still very rare for radio stations to play songs longer than 3 minutes. "Hey Jude" by The Beatles came out shortly before this, and when it became a hit despite running 7:11, stations learned that audiences would stick around if they liked the song.

SONGFACTS

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 4:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I remember Richard harris on Johnny Carson show talking about it and all he could say about it was that it was longer than Bob Dylan's sad eyed lady of the lowlands which also was a song that was very very long. I remember at the time thinking, It isnt the length that counts!!!!!!!!!!! as is the case in many things in life. harris was drunk at the time.

Bonzacat
Member

07-08-2003

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
So true. It's not the length, it's what you do with it. And drinking may or may not help.

And bringing this back to tonight's show... since no one knows what the hell the lyrics of this song really mean, it matters not how Carrie interprets them. I swear, I think she could smack this one over the fence. Please don't pelt me with Constantine's old Justin t-shirt for saying that!

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 4:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't think that I could take it, because it took so long to bake it OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Watching2
Member

07-07-2001

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 4:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LMAO!!!!!! I seriously can't even remember the Donna Summer's version, only the Richard Harris one. For the life of me, hearing his voice in my head, I can't imagine how it could be a disco song. Bonza I'm so lucky I swallowed my Coke before I read that first line of yours. Hehehehe

Willsfan
Member

09-04-2000

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Macarthur Park
Spring was never waiting for us, girl
It ran one step ahead
As we followed in the dance
Between the parted pages and were pressed,
In love's hot, fevered iron
Like a striped pair of pants

CHORUS
MacArthur's Park is melting in the dark
All the sweet, green icing flowing down...
Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it
'cause it took so long to bake it
And I'll never have that recipe again
Oh, no!

I recall the yellow cotton dress
Foaming like a wave
On the ground around your knees
The birds, like tender babies in your hands
And the old men playing checkers by the trees

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just cant picture Donna Summer singing I'll never have that recipe again. I just dont remember it.

Donna Summer to me was love to love you baby, and I loved that song

Watching2
Member

07-07-2001

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 4:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah, I liked that song by Donna, too, Maris.

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 4:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah, I was a huge Donna Summer fan.

Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 9:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I loved to hear that song at the discos. We would all dance the whole way thru it ... great times. Classic Donna Summer ... although it's not my favorite Donna Summer song.