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Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Who get's Nadia's voters?

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Bo has been faltering too lately. And maybe those comments will end up coming to bite him in the butt. I still can't believe Nadia is gone and Scott is still there. NO JUSTICE!

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jimmer I agree. Bo lost some fans with his arrogance.

I like Constantine and have from the begining.

Highlighter
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09-03-2003

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oooooh, great question, Hobbs! Please do tell, Nadia fans!

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Constantine is a very smart person. He's like Rob and Amber in AR. He studied the show and figured out what it would take to win. Appeal to the young voters early to get the fan base. Go after the olders by singing David Cassidy. Get the people that think the show is a joke, but still watch by wearing a Justin Guarinni shirt. Then finally get the Wayne and Garth crowd by singing Queen. Smart. Very smart.

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't really know what the Boston Conservatory is, but I bet it isn't simple to get in to.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Interesting observations Hobbs.

People who voted for Nadia will split all different ways. I voted for her and I am not sure I will vote again but if I did it would be for Constantine.

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, to answer the question about who the Nadia lovers are going to go with--for me, I guess it is Constantine. Except for the Queen song (which I know I am alone in not appreciating) I have liked him. I especially liked him singing the jazzy sound a week ago.

I just heard on Fox News that neither Bo nor Constantine would let the stylists change their looks. Uh, they could go with some advice. And I'll bet that's why Anthony has been looking better and better each week! Did him wonders!

Aerojunki
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06-30-2004

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I've been a Nadia & Constantine fan from the start...poor Nadia..my votes go for Constantine now.

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'd love to see the Fab 5 makeover Bo and Constantine!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Fruitbat. Nice analysis Hobbs. Bo, Nadia and Scott have some decent talent but they are/were clearly not playing the game. Constantine (and to a lesser extent, Carrie) are clearly playing the game.

Constantine is very very clever. And I think he is entertaining and I enjoy seeing what he comes up with each week. In an odd way, that Canadian fans may appreciate, he kind of reminds me of Jacob (a popular Canadian Idol contestant) though his style is very different.

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Cool idea, Hobbs! Now that's a show I would definitely watch!!!!

Kristylovesbb
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09-14-2000

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Bo had better pump it up several notches if he is to stay in the game. I agree his nonchalant attitude tonight is going to hurt him. Hated to see Nadia go, I loved her! Scott should have gone his song was sooooo off key.

Highlighter
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09-03-2003

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 9:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Didn't Simon basically predict Nadia was probably gone after yesterday's performance? I think he was so spot-on with his evaluations on Tuesday.

The thing that really bugs me about this particular show is the hyped drama of it all-"you are gonna be soooo shocked.....". Well, maybe some were, but I gotta say I'm not. I think I predicted Bo, Nadia, and Scott based on their performances lately (*darn* but I wish I was playing your game! :-). Same with last season when Jennifer Hudson was bumped out-gasp NOT. She had a voice on her, but the voice and her facial expressions turned a lot of people off, too. *Maybe* some of you are too complacent about Bo, but I'm not being complacent about voting this year after LaToya was voted off last year. I learned then. After three seasons of this, haven't voters learned to not get too comfy?

I think there is a waning of enthusiasm for Bo and Nadia (obviously) and Scott (unfortunately; but again, I was one who did not vote for him this week when I have in the past), and it has nothing to do with lazy voters. JMHO, though!

Maybe shocked that all the judges' slobbering over Bo haven't kept him coasting through the entire season.....but again, they haven't been doing that so much, lately, either. I think they are settling on a Carrie/Constantine matchup now.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 10:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'll be voting just for Anwar now, unless someone else catches my attention but so far that seems doubtful.

Nadia did have the best sense of style! I'll really miss her.

And at the very end the most touching moment.. when they showed her family and I guess it was her mother was comforting the two little girls who were both sobbing.. Awwww.

Azriel
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 11:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here is a great review of Tuesday's performance. This woman tells each person's strengths and critiques their weaknesses. It's a really interesting read and the most unbiased review I've seen.

Music Reviews Online - AMERICAN IDOL SEASON 4 TOP EIGHT VOCAL MASTERCLASS


Alisons
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01-10-2003

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 4:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Az, that was a very interesting read!

As far as Constantine and the Boston Conservatory, it makes you realize that Constantine is not just up there winging it, he has actually had some training to support his dramatic style.

It makes me think of my own experience with vocalists. It always amazes me to find people with absolutely fantastic voices who have NO experience with musical instruments, can't read music, etc. I think in this competition, for the long haul, it is a big advantage to actually have a musical background. I can't imagine what it would be like, for instance, to have to learn a new song every week to perform on national TV without having the capability to take the score and work on it in private with a keyboard.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 4:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh Jimmer he does remind me of Jacob, but only in his showboating,I couldn't stand Jacob. Constantime can at least sing.

I too think Bo's comments are gonna bite him in the butt, if he doesn't care , why should we.

I am not happy that Nadia is gone, of all them I thought she was the total package.

Azriel
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08-01-2000

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 4:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Alison, if you want to read more of her reviews for previous AI 4 performances, the links are here at the bottom of the page -

AMERICAN IDOL 4 VOCAL MASTERCLASS ARTICLES



Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 5:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Az. This is a great article.

I just rewatched Ryan and Bo's conversation. He was even more arrogant than I remembered. This is absolutely going to hurt him. I would not be surprised to see him in the bottom 3, again, next week.

I wonder if Simon will make any reference to this next week. Not only was his display disrespectful to his fans but to the show, as well.

Tatyana
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08-06-2001

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 5:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Constantine reminds me of Jacob from Canadian Idol last year. For those of you who couldn't/didn't watch it, he was a pure entertainer, not the best voice, but every week you couldn't wait to see what he would come up with... like one week he sang "put your head on my shoulder" dressed up like a 50's sweet boy (with his lip still pierced lol) and the next week dressed like bowie when he sang "Major Tom", etc. He made it to final 3 but in the end the voters chose the 2 best vocalists over the pure entertainer. I still love Jacob though and am looking forward to hearing him again. He was also a lead singer in a rock band. ;) (I have to admit though Jacob doesn't creep me out like Constantine does)

I still love Bo and hope he steps it up.. I still prefer to listen to him and love to watch him perform.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Missed the show last night, but the result was some crap. Nadia didn't deserve to go. In the spirit of making chicken salad out of chicken shit, though, it looks like ya'll had a great time in here.

Sassynegal
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01-21-2005

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am sad to see Nadia go - but I have to admit I didn't vote for her. I kept saying Bo, BO,BO over and over thinking if I wished hard enough he'd go home and she'd stay - obviously that doesn't work.

I am sure Nadia will have no problem in the entertainment industry as she has true talent, she wasn't one of my favorites but I still think there were a few that should have went before her.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My point all along about Nadia was that she is everybody's SECOND choice - but you tend only to vote for your FIRST choice. If when you voted you merely listed people in order and then they tallied them up, I am sure she would still be there.

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 7:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Constantine is growing on me. I was originally turned off by his "mugging" the camera. I've noticed a few people called this show a game in this thread. Now that I realize Constantine is all an act to get votes, and that he is playing the game, I'm really starting to like him. And you have to admit, he can sing.

I relate it to Richard Hatch and Rob Marinano(?). Richard was the first to create an alliance to get through before any one else heard of alliances. Rob is currently using all the rules of TAR to his (and Ambers) advantage. I like the people who are first to figure out the game and play it to their advantage. Everyone else after that are imitators.