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Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The difference between this season and others for me is that I really dont care who wins this thing. Nobody just stands out to me, they are all very good but none of them have it, except maybe Nadia and even then she cant compare to the best American Idol Ever.....RUBEN!!!!!!!!!!

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am not a fan of anyone this season either. If I had a gun to my head and had to choose it would be Constantine.


Yesitsme
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08-24-2004

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey, I still have problems with the Clay/Ruben thing, too. My mom had me on the phone for the full 2 hours trying to vote for Clay, and I never got through. I think mom only got through once on her phone. You've got to think that there are just so many lines for voting and my guess is that for that one they were operating at capacity. If both numbers are ringing nonstop, one piece of equipment working a fraction of a bit faster could mean the winner or the loser. In my mind it would be fairer if everyone would call in one number and then have to choose between the two.

But Clay definitely did win in the long run. I feel bad for Ruben....I liked him, too, and feel that he got locked into something that wasn't necessarily in his best interest.

Speaking of Ruben, last night it looked to me like he had lost some weight.

Mizinvanccouver
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02-22-2003

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was really surprised with the bottom 3. Vonzell should not have been there. I thought for sure it would be Anthony & Scott; 3rd one I'm swaying towards Bo or Constantine.

When Scott speaks it's so monotone. He does absolutely nothing for me.

Feelangee
Member

01-04-2005

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I like Scott's singing, plain and simple. No sympathy about his father and no judgement about his past.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    

quote:

I think people have thier favorites from the beginning and no matter how good/bad they do they continue to vote for them as they have become a fan.




Oh, I don't know. My favorites were Constantine and Anwar during the auditions. They both dropped mightily in my estimation of them, but Constantine has creeped () slowly back up. I like Nadia's performances, so I might buy a CD of hers, but she does this weird thing with her mouth that I find distracting. I'd probably buy Bo's CD as well. The others are pretty much interchangeable to me.

That's why I liked AI2 -- the top three (heck, the top four, I suppose, although I didn't care for Josh's singing style) were all good performers who had different styles. They appealed to different audiences, and I think that's why there is still controversy over the results. If you don't like one style, you may not understand why people preferred that singer. I haven't connected as much to an AI singer as since Ruben, and Kim grew on me as the season went on, but while I can appreciate Clay's talent, I don't like his style. And that's why Ruben and Kim's CDs are in my collection and Clay's is not.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I really think this season just blows. I enjoyed Ruben very much and I love me some Fantasia, but these people just seem utterly devoid of personality to me. They seem to be competing in a Miss America pageant instead of trying to be pop stars. It's particularly grating to me with the people who want to present themselves as "artsy" like Nadia or "rockers" like Beaux. For all her artsy pretentions (by her own admission), the only thing Nadia does that is challenging is her different hairstyles. And I always talk about Beaux being derivative and that to me is really a problem because "rock," even though I'm not a fan, is supposed to be contemporary, not a constant, forced nod back to the mid-70s (except, I guess, with irony, as Beck does). That's all Beaux has offered as far as I'm concerned; he is to "rock" what Kenny G is to "jazz."

I know many people didn't like Fantasia last season, but to me what makes her brilliant is that she knows the history of r&b with what seems like a white hot intensity and she manages to make it contemporary. This is why the great legends of r&b like Aretha, Chaka, and Patti love her: she knows them and their music, but she also brings a youthful uncontainable zeal to it like Mary J. Blige does on those days her voice sounds reasonable. And she has an almost visceral hunger.

That's one thing I really admire about Mr. Aiken, no matter how much his music leaves me flat. He's succeeded because he is hungry and competitive--he's more like Fantasia than I think most of his fans and most of Fantasia's fans would like to admit. Ruben, as much as I like his voice, is just a laid. back. cat. and he seems happy to sell what he sells, make a very good living, and chill out. But I want to see a singer with real fire step up. That's why I think Fantasia gave great advice last night when she told them to "act ugly." They've been too interested in giving pretty performances and not offending anyone when they really need to show some fire. I still think this competition is anyone's to win.

Oh and did anyone else geaux nuts when Beaux kept saying "gendre" for "genre" last night? Sheesh. You'd think it was a foreign word or soemthin'. sorry the post was so long

Kellirippa
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07-10-2002

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I really feel like Simon has been pushing Country Carrie and Real Rocker "Bob Ice".. on the voting public in an attempt to legitimize the contest again. They need something different to spark the show. A country winner could tap that audience and really take off, and a rock winner could really legitimize the contest and reclaim the show in the name of the record buying younger audience and take it away from the soccer mom easy listening white bread crowd, which could sooner than later turn the show and it's "winners" into industry jokes. JMO

Sassynegal
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01-21-2005

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Everyone keeps dogging on Scott's personality and I agree last week I even said he acted a little over confident after a very bad night but... I think he is a guy with a huge talent but no confidence and the farther he makes it in this show the more confidence he'll get and the more his stage presense will compliment his already amazing voice. Do I vote for him because he needs confidence no - matter of fact I haven't voted for him the past 2 weeks, but I did vote for him because of his vocals early on!

Its funny they have some amazing vocals this year but those people lack the stage presense (Scott, Carrie, Anwar) and then then they have people with great stage presense and not so great vocals (Nadia, BO IMO) so I guess it'll come down to which the majority thinks rules out the others.


And OK YOUR RIGHT Clay did win not only is he a greater success he got out of the AI contract!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
but he didn't win American Idol which is what this section of the board is about ...

Moderator
Moderator

06-30-2002

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
<standing on the corner>

<whistling>

<flipping a coin>

<hmmm … whom shall I smite first, if the AI4 threads turn into a AI2 Clay/Reuben feud fest and spoils my jovial mood?>

(dh)


Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
well I contributed, but as flip wilson used to say The Devil made me do it. I just couldnt resist.

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 12:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ducking the smote stick

This year seems better to me than last year because most of these people have some professional experience and maturity.
The show last night, well, I slept through Fantasia, don't ask me how, woke up with 3 on the seal.
With all the bad publicity that Scott had, I was surprised to see him survive, but there were people voting to revenge the fortunate/unfortunate release of his police record.

Somehow I think Nikko was surprised, albeit gracious in his loss. Anthony was relieved. I think he had been reading the boards reviewing his performance.

Babyboo
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06-16-2003

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
There are people that i think should leave before others but i won't be voting for anyone but Bo from here on out, I feel he is the most talented and most deserving in the competition.

Prisonerno6
Member

08-31-2002

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 1:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Reading Tish's post got me thinking...

We kept hearing from the judges how this year was better that any other year, and on one level, I think they're right. There isn't one person up there that I would say really can't carry a tune, unlike in the past. They are all decent vocalists, in my opinion.

What's lacking are memorable performances. Anwar is the perfect example to me. I think he has a great voice, technically speaking, but his performances leave me cold and saying, "Yea, so?" We're almost halfway in, and we have yet to see anything even remotely approaching Ruben's Sweet Home Alabama, Kim's New York State of Mind, or Fantasia's Summertime. I don't think this group has it in them to give us that type of performance.}

Rabbit
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08-12-2001

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 2:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Prisoner, I get what you are saying except I think there have been 2 highly effective performances this year though not on the tide turning scale of a couple of the ones you mentioned.

Bo's "Whipping Post" was a jaw-dropper for us burnt out, nurtured on 60s and 70's rock, old geezers. That one performance makes him my choice until someone tops it, and several of my cronies are actually voting for the the first time.

Constantine's "Funny Little Valentine" added some new older fans, like Mrs. Rabbit, to the ranks of his already formidable teen legion.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 2:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Let me tell you... my mother is in her late 60's... and she thinks Constantine is Da Bomb!!! My mother looooooves him!!!

Yesitsme
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08-24-2004

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 2:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Prisoner. My sister and I were talking about that today. They are all talented this year, but that "it" factor seems to be missing.
And Anwar was the specific example we were talking about, too. We both think he is so handsome, and seems so nice, and he can certainly sing. Yet on some level he almost bores us.

We decided we liked the band, though. They seem to be doing a great job backing them up this year!

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ok so basically we all do a write in and say the band should win?

Muse
Member

08-09-2001

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 4:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think it all depends on who you ask. It's a matter of personal preference. I disliked last season, but am enjoying this season much more. I think Bo (not "Beaux", please! :-)) has the "it" factor. I think there have been several standout performances -- "Whipping Post" (Bo), "You Don't Have to Say You Love Me" (Nadia), and "What a Wonderful World" (Anwar). Others might disagree. I disagreed when some people raved about Fantasia's "Summertime". *shrug*

There's still time for some people to develop favorites, though. Kimberley Locke didn't win a lot of her fanbase until near the end of the competition, right? So there's still some hope for those who aren't enjoying this season, IMO. You might not end up finding a real favorite, but you never know... :-)

By the way -- I disagree with you about Simon promoting Bo, Kellirippa. I think Bo is one of Paula and Randy's favorites. But not Simon. He has been very critical of Bo lately. His praise seems to be almost entirely saved for Carrie.

Katbee
Member

09-15-2001

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 6:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tish...thank you for noticing Bo's mispronunciation of the word genre. I thought it was me for a moment there.

Jhonise
Member

07-10-2003

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 6:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here is an interesting article from The Toronto Star

The Toronto Star

Someone please stop Paula Abdul

VINAY MENON

Paula Abdul must go.

Don't care where, don't care how. Just go. Please.

Readers of this space will know that calling for one's head is usually verboten. But today's dispatch is an exception.

Let us now ask — no, beg — producers to quietly extricate Paula from her judge's chair. Somebody must intervene and bring an end to the blathering spectacle that is Paula Abdul, circa 2005.

On Tuesday's performance show, in which contestants belted out showtunes, Paula seemed positively erratic.

<snip>



Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 6:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
the best line in that article?

Yeah, Shimon, shtop bwingin ush dhown

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hmm I would play editor and select two lines, out of order:

Then she winked at the grinning unicorns only she can see.

And the audience at [my] home is now scared.


Loved the article even though I disagree about Nadia's hair.

Llkoolaid
Member

08-01-2001

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 7:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think possibly the reason for no real front runner this year is because we have been given a bunch of real good voices and any given week anyone of them can be on top. I think we all kind of lean towards a performer if they do a decent job of the particle genre of music that we favor. I love ballads or rock, so do it up good and I am a fan. I don't care for R&B or country,so no matter how good you are at it I am going to give my vote to someone else.