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The TVClubHouse: American Idol/Canadian Idol/Other Talent Shows ARCHIVES: American Idol IV: ABC Expose about Idol (ARCHIVES): Archive through May 09, 2005 users admin

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Rslover
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11-19-2002

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 9:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Bette Midler - that is a fantastic suggestion - if ONLY..

Bonzacat
Member

07-08-2003

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This is bottom-of-the-barrel trolling for scandal: Drudge!

PAULA ABDUL FEARED 'DRUG' EXPOSE BY ABCNEWS

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUN MAY 08, 2005 19:38:49 ET XXXXX

PAULA ABDUL FEARED 'DRUG' EXPOSE BY ABCNEWS

**Exclusive**

AMERICAN IDOL judge Paula Abdul feared ABCNEWS was investigating drug use for its PRIMETIME LIVE special, sources claim.

Just days before the program aired, Abdul lawyer Marty Singer fired off a detailed 2 page warning to ABCNEWS strongly denying any wrongdoing regarding Abdul and drugs.

"It was sure odd," a network source tells the DRUDGE REPORT. "We were never investigating Paula Abdul and drugs, and we never asked her lawyer about any such allegation."

LINK

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 9:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
S'ok, Bonza. All this stuff is really. Because it's one person's word against another's. But I can still use my common sense to sort through it--for now, anyway.

Maybe that was the only thing the producers couldn't have possibly missed about her behavior. And maybe Paula didn't give anyone a clue otherwise. Good diversion.

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 12:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
YOU may try to sort through it with your common sense but *I* wrote to Trenyce for details.

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 12:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL, Alisons!

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Heh, well, be sure to share. Sure you'll be able to decipher the answer?

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 1:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, someone on Idol Forums has been posting some of the allegations that were not aired.

Such as Kim L was having an affair with Simon Lythgow (son of Nigel) before the end of the show (same fratizination rules should apply). She was officially engaged to him while on the tour, if they did not get to know each other during the show, it was fast work, because he was not involved in the tour.

The the people who left were not always in the bottom

That the people are placed in the bottom 3 for shock value and has nothing to do with votes.

That the renegotiated contract made AI2 the best ever paid Idols (I don't believe that is true).

That Trenyce did not have a record, because her record was expunged. She told it to AI, and somehow the Smoking gun was tipped off by someone to what no longer existed in the government files.

The Psychiatrists were not there so much to help them as to get an insight to their behavior to have better television.

There was lots of liquor in the Idol house (smuggled in).

No wonder Clay locked himself in his room. I think I heard one of their neighbor's made a complaint that they partied too loudly in the house.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here is one of the actual posts that Sadiesmom is referring to (long):

Here's the real deal of AI:

First and foremost Corey is telling the truth!
There were limos picking him up from the mansion and taking him to Paula's house. if this gets to court, then the Limo services will HAVE TO testify.
Paula's house is NOT easy to find. People need to remember that LA has mountains and the canyons on top of that making it really hard to find certain celebrities, especially when they reside in a cove.(Which she does)
Furthermore, you would have had to have been there more than once in order to know how to get there in the dark.
But the Corey and Paula scandal, as Trenyce has told you all plenty of times is NOT the BOMBSHELL.
I know for a fact that the show is manipulated!!! I tried to use the correct word but the system would not let me post with the correct word) (this info from a former producer who left once he discovered the truth...he loved the contestants too much)*****************
The night that Rickey went home, that was supposed to be Josh's week.
The night that Trenyce and Carmen were in the bottom, Trenyce nor Carmen were in the bottom. They wrote that in since they knew that Corey was being booted.
The night that Trenyce and Ruben were in the bottom it was Josh's night. But they wanted better ratings, and to make people NOT miss Trenyce as long as Ruben was safe.

The scandal about Kim Locke and Simon Lythgoe are true!
Simon moved into the house with the contestants once Carmen's mother moved out, and took the room that they called "the dungeon" downstairs, which happened to be below the Ladies bedroom(five beds in one room).
The ladies listened to her and Simon having sex all of the time and was very distant from her because they knew she was in her position because she was "dating" the right person.
Did I mention that Simon Lythgoe was MARRIED with a child on the way at the time?
Does anyone remember that diamond ring that Kimberly Locke mysteriously was able to afford all of a sudden? Well, if you do, then that was given to her by Simon. She claimed that she bought it at a Pawn Shop...NOT!
NOW, she doesn't have it because she is no longer with Simon and is engaged to her boyfriend from back home. (why isn't that ring just as beautiful?)
Please go back and watch the episode where Simon all of a sudden gives Kim the best reviews she ever got and said she could wim the competition.(The night she miraculously straightened her hair). Well, that night before was the first night that Simon and Kim L had slept together for the first time.
That is why she and Trenyce never got along because Trenyce felt like she was a true performer who took the show seriously, and had to sit there and listen to the comments every week knowing that no matter what she or the others did, Kim was going to be the last girl standing because she made sure of it.
She(Kim L) even told all of her secrets to Carmen, who is now the AI Poster Girl because she has an album out. That is what Trenyce meant on CNN when she said "Carmen, you mean to tell me with all of the things that we witnessed behind the scenes, you find it impossible for Corey and Paula to have a relationship?"
Why does it matter that she had this relationship? Because he was writing the "script" for the judges...that's right...the judges are told what to say! Also, his father, Nigel Lythgoe tries to tell the contestants what to sing, and if you don't agree with him, then he makes sure you are voted off and then says: "Well, you should have sang what I asked you to sing"....Ask Jennifer Hudson.

The contestants perform for the judges ONE time prior to the performances airing live to the public, so they already know what they are about to sing.
They did away with the celebrity guest judges, because the guests didn't want to stick to the script.
Want more?:
Trenyce has indeed been blackballed!
In the beginning, she and Corey were the only 2 who stood up and said that the contract was bogus. They pointed out that American Idol's lawyer representing all of them was a clear conflict of interest...as said by Trenyce.
The producers were mad because they knew more about the business than they thought.
Gave the Idols 24 hours to find a lawyer,or they would have to sign the contract OR be replaced.
The Idols all decided to ban together and find a lawyer...Corey steps in and says that he knows a lawyer that they can use...now mind you...Corey said, as well as, his friends and family, that he went into the competition broke, so how would he know of a lawyer that could defend them in 24 hours?
Paula gave him Howard Siegel, a lawyer in NY that represented Norah Jones at the time.
Corey wouldn't have known this lawyer any other way! And get this...He also represented Justin Guarini!!! So, Paula has been biting the hand that feeds her. This is why Corey said that Paula was trying to help him and the other contestants...but once he was booted off, didn't honor what she "said" she would do.

Howard renegotiated the contract for them, so they are to this day the HIGHEST PAID IDOLS EVER!!! The AI machine was upset that they (trenyce and corey) outsmarted them and from then on, looked for a way to get rid of the "trouble makers" as they were called.
So what do they do?
Trenyce's arrest record was brought out and Corey's arrest record got him booted off!
Where they messed up was with Trenyce's record. Her issue was unique. She helped a "friend" get a job at her place of business, the girl stole, but asked Trenyce to return the clothes. She does and is arrested on the spot. The judge then says that as a slap on the wrist, he will give her probation to teach her a lesson but take it off of her record as long as he never sees her again. She honored that and told the judge that she made a mistake befriending her and was a college student with a full scholarship. HOW did AI know all of this info? Because she told them. Would it have come up with a background check? NO. If Trenyce wanted to get a regular job, and they did a background check, they would never discover that info, so WHY did it come out?
I was told that they paid the police dept. to have the records revealed to the Smoking Gun.
Then, when Trenyce asked if she could explain the incident, so that she could turn it into a positive and tell other youths that no matter what is in your past, you can still make it like she did...Idol said that she should just let it "blow over"...knowing that a non-explaination would have some people judge her and change their opinion of her. (I felt so bad for her)

There were two instances that the Idols witnessed that the votes really didn't matter:
Kim Caldwell and Simon Lythgoe got into a shouting match in the venue before one of the shows and Simon yelled at Kim C calling her a the B word and that he was getting sick of her and could see to it that she is gone next week!
The second incident was when they were riding in the van on the way to CBS studios and Corey was late again. Simon told Corey that if he was late again he would make sure that he left the following week.
With those two instances the contestants started to ask more questions. Trenyce wanted to know what the % was for each person's votes and why they never saw them. Kim C was on Trenyce's and Corey's side as well....hence, the rumor of a threesome!
After Corey was kicked off Kim C and Trenyce became closer and got sick at the same time. Trenyce lost 12 lbs. and they both were very sick due to stress, but when they asked to go to the doctor, Simon Lythgoe told them "No" being mean, and they snuck away to the doctor. One of the other people who worked in production took them...finally! (that is why she looks soo beautiful and healthier now!) Man, what stress can do, huh?

The ladies were always told that Corey was selling stories to the tabloids, but if Corey was selling the threesome tabloid then how did that end up in Simon's book?
The tabloids were receiving information from inside the house that only people that lived there would know, even AFTER Corey's departure with a few extra perks only about certain people in a negative light...never Kim L though, so who was selling the stories?
You guessed it!!! Simon Lythgoe!!!!

MORE TO CONSIDER:
Why hasn't the fan mail address changed on the www.IDOLSONFOX.com
site? Have you been trying to reach your favorites through AI...well, they won't receive it. And if you have been trying to get through, and haven't then how do the contestants know that record labels haven't been trying to call or write them to get to the other contestants that don't have deals?
Did you all know that ALL endorsements, performances, etc. were filtered through AI one year after the contract was up? (and they took a % even though they didn't pick them up)
Why are they asking Idols that are still under contract what they think about the Corey/Paula scandal? (Jasmine, John Peter Louis, and all of the contestants of this season)
Trenyce gets no mention in 2yrs.? No invitation to come back to the show? And the Xmas special...need I say more?
Kimberly Caldwell is not speaking out even though they treated her like crap too, because she has a production deal with Randy and has a steady job on TV Guide.
If the contestants share all of this information to a lawyer, DO THEY HAVE A CASE???
Is it the new 50's game show BS?
What did Corey's profile mean when he said "paula was his favorite judge because they have a sort of comforting connection, he thinks" ??????

Paula should admit her wrong doing.
American Idol should be off of the air.
The contestants should all sue them for not living up to each of them having a fair chance at the title in exchange for their ratings, paychecks, and multi-million dollar empire.
Not to mention the public being completely dooped!
What about all of those votes that I put in on my cell...that was not an AT&T phone!?
The public should have INSISTED more on seeing the actual numbers for the votes instead of taking their word! And even if they tally the votes, they still change things around for ratings...that is the whole "reality TV" side of it.
This show is full of it and if the contestants feel like they can be sued then they needed someone else to tell it!!! Here you go kids.....now sue their asses and go get your money!
Stick together like you did before. WHO CARES if they sue you. They are worth millions and have not shared and you can ALL counter sue and win...this would go down in history!!!
Someone do the right thing!
If any of the contestants read this and say I am lying..well, they won't because it is 100% true.
Please send this around. It needs to be heard!
And if you don't believe me watch what else comes out and then refer back to this message.

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 2:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
BTW, the person who posted the above was supposedly a hairstylist on AI. You know THEY have all the dirt!

Bonzacat
Member

07-08-2003

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 2:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The structure is suspiciously similar to Trenynce's communiques... only longer!

Supergranny
Member

02-03-2005

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 2:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
WOW!!

Tishala
Member

08-01-2000

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sorry, I'm not believing it. I think judges [and probably producers] have vendettas against certain contestants, but some of that stuff is pretty out there. AI paid off the police to release Trenyce's arrest record? Kimberly Caldwell has been embroiled in this threesome talk because Trenyce would't toe the line? Ummmmmmmmmm. Ms. Caldwell has been at tons of AI events, so that doesn't make much sense. Why would they want to smear Ms. Caldwell when they could just heap more abuse on the poor, neglected Trenyce more easily? Why is the "hairstylist" on the show so worried about her votes on the non-AT&T phone if she knew it was all a set-up anyhow?

I don't care if Kimberly Locke was sleeping with half of LA or the producer of the show. Same is true with the rest of them.

I think they're just conspiracy theories from people embittered by one thing or another.

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 3:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I always thought it was strange that they never announced how the voting was tabulated or protected. Unless that is something I missed somewhere along the line, that is suspect.

Max
Member

08-12-2000

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 3:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
RE: Corey and Paula and other hook-ups. <yawn!>

What should be investigated are the voting tabulation issues. Those have cropped up over and over again and THAT's what should be the focus because that's where "fixing" the "contest" comes into play.

IMHO, of course.

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 3:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yay-es, I want to see Price Waterhouse (or whatever they are calling themselves now) walk on the stage every week with an envelope!

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 4:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but an interesting article nonetheless.

http://www.fastcompany.com/resources/marketing/manners/050905.html

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 4:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sorry... I'm not buying that hairstylist's story either. The part about AI "outing" Corey's arrest records is definitely untrue. AI knew nothing about Corey's arrest record - Corey had to come clean when his PD couldn't get his case continued and the judge told Corey's PD that if he didn't show up in person in court, he was swearing out a warrant for his arrest. The judge didn't care if Corey was on AI, he expected him to appear in his court on his assigned court date. That's when Corey told AI about his arrest - because he HAD to leave the show to appear in court.

Rvon
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12-11-2003

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 5:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree with you, Lexie_girl!

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 5:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Can anyone in this scandal use proper grammar or, at least, express themselves credibly? I toss it all to the curb in disgust.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 5:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Fruitbat, DAWG, I give you props for keeping true to yourself.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 5:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Dude!

Tishala
Member

08-01-2000

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Don't you know it's "more sexier" to use improper grammar?

Bonzacat
Member

07-08-2003

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 7:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
PLEASE - I could not believe my ears with "more sexier"!!!!!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 7:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Aiiight!!

I think the hairdresser should work harder on, um, HAIR.

1234

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
<--- Shamelessly waiting for the tabloid version to come out.