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Re-inventing American Idol

The TVClubHouse: American Idol/Canadian Idol/Other Talent Shows ARCHIVES: American Idol IV: Re-inventing American Idol users admin

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Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
After watching last night's (5/3) show, all I could think was, "Gee I just wasted an hour of my life." That's usually how I feel after a show has jumped the shark. Well since these boards are read by the producers and lackies at 19E, I thought we could suggest changes to AI to make it better. I'll start...

On Wednesday's show, give the judges a topic that they have to stand up and speak about for 2-1/2 minutes. This would replace the awful group number section. Then let the contestants give their criticism. I think it would be fun to see if Paula can hold a continuous thought for that long. I personally think she would just stop, grab some pom-poms and do a cheer.

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I would like to see at the end of the show a flash of what the percentages were of the votes. Other than the bottom three you have no idea what the percentages are.

Instead of having the evictees sing a song, they should ask them how they felt about the AI experience and what their critique of each judge is.


Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think they should have a fee for calling (ducking head) that way you don't get those people voting who are trying to screw things up. Only those who are serious would vote then.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
1. I agree with Maris. I would also like to know the percentage of votes that the contestants are receiving.

2. I wouldn't let the idols do any more group numbers. Some of them were painful to listen to.

3. I would change the way Ryan informs people in the bottom 3 who is safe and who is going home. Its almost cruel the way he starts out with one line and BAM they are out of there with the next sentence. Or he leads them to believe they are the one that is going only to find out they are safe for another week. Its kind of like watching ants under a magnifying glass in the sun. Very painful the way it is done.

I'm sure I will think of more.

Hobbs
Member

08-05-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Gee, and I was going for humor. Go figure. You guys are just too serious.

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think they should have a trap door so that when an idol really sucks.... shulmp...down they go never to be heard from again.

The could also have one for Paula that swhooshes her directly to re-hab.

Hobbs
Member

08-05-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That's the spirit!

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    


Lori
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04-18-2003

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I would give operation of said trap door to Simon!

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Definatly change the way they get their votes. I say limit 10 calls per phone. If you wanted a certain person to go, you could just place 10 calls for everyone except that person.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Regarding said trap door that swooshes Paula into rehab, I hope it is not installed until June 1, 2005.

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lexie, on June 1, 2005, ABC and FOX are doing a joint newsmagazine special event....

Paula will be swooshed LIVE to rehab in a pneumatic tube:


Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 1:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
How about stealing an idea from the old Gong Show and let each judge use the gong one time a season to eliminate a contestant. Then that would stop this foolish vote for the worst fiasco.

Also, if they go so far as to charge for calling in a vote they should donate the money to a charity.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think they should have an "ousted" Idol show on Saturday nights were the ousted contestants perform numbers of the same theme and people still have a chance to vote. Any Idol who receives more than a set number of votes (say 5 million) on the Saturday show wins an extra 10K.

Lexie_girl
Member

07-30-2004

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 1:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LMAO @ Bonza!!!

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 1:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
1. Require that each contestant wash his/her hair before the night's performance.

2. For voting, send your reps to a surprise venue each night: a nursing home, a middle school, a high school, a college, a corporation, a construction worker's trailer, a crab shack, a New Orleans bar, etc and take LIVE votes from 10 people only. Now that could be both a riot to watch these folks and listen to their comments, and the votes would be beyond reproach.

3. Write a clause into the contracts that, outside of the advice given at the time of judging, the judges and contestants never mingle/solicit/give advice. Hands off!

4. Make the TVCH AI thread required reading for the judges and contestants!

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 2:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I only have one suggestion:

Have Boy George, George Michael and Elton John as the permanent judges (they should be given ample access to the liquor cabinet before each show), Simon replaces Ryan onstage and he gets to bag on anyone he wants, including the judges. Randy only gets to produce the Idol recordings. Paula only gets to work with the contestants on choreography and she can sleep with whomever she wants. Otherwise I got nothing.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 2:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
You know, if the judges were *required* to sleep with the contestants, we wouldn't have to put up with people like Scott.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 2:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Alisons, you are so on to something there.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 2:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!! I will sign that petition.

Lexie_girl
Member

07-30-2004

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 2:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
SIGN ME UP !!!!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 3:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Bingo Alisons!

Bonzacat
Member

07-08-2003

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 3:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am just LMAF with all these hilarious visuals: Boy George, George Michael and Elton John as Courvoisier-swilling judges, Simon as Ryan with carte blance verbal authority, and finally Paula, assigned to sleep with all the contestants and rate them as "best male" and "best female" performances!!!!

Thank you all for the laughs!

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 3:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the show can do without everyone but Simon. I love the idea of him as host.

Does anyone else miss guest judges?

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 3:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
REVISED RULES TEXT

"AMERICAN IDOL" SEASON 4


MINIMUM ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS

You must be a legal U.S. citizen or a U.S. resident, 16 to 28 years old on August 4, 2004, who is eligible to work in the United States.

You are ineligible if, as of the date of your audition, you have any type of contract for talent representation (for example, a talent agent or manager), a music recording contract, an acting contract, a merchandising agreement, or any other contractual arrangement that would prohibit you from entering into a management contract, recording contract, talent contract, acting contract and/or merchandising contract. You are also ineligible if you made it to the top 30 contestants of Season 1 of "America Idol" or the top 32 contestants of Seasons 2 or 3 of “American Idol.”

Employees, shareholders, officers, directors, agents, representatives, and their immediate family members and those living in the same household of Fox Broadcasting Company, American Idol Productions, Inc., FremantleMedia North America, Inc., 19 TV Ltd., AT&T, Telescope, BMG, RCA Records, Arista Records, production personnel for the television program, participating television stations, advertising agencies, corporate sponsors or any person or entity connected with the production, administration or judging of the auditions, or any of their respective parent companies, affiliates, subsidiaries, agents or representatives are not eligible.

THE AUDITION PROCESS

When to Line Up: ALL INFORMATION CONCERNING THE AUDITIONS IS TENTATIVE AT THIS TIME. AUDITION CITIES AND/OR DATES MAY CHANGE. IF THE PAST THREE SEASONS ARE ANY INDICATION, WE ARE EXPECTING A HUGE TURNOUT IN EACH CITY. YOU SHOULD THEREFORE PLAN ON ARRIVING AS EARLY AS ALLOWED AT THE AUDITION VENUE IN YOUR AREA. CONTINUE TO CHECK OUR WEBSITE AT idolonfox.com FOR FURTHER DETAILS. KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT YOU WILL BE SEEN FOR AN AUDITION.

Locations, Dates and Time: It is anticipated that auditions will start no later than 8:00 a.m. on the first audition day in each city. If you are not in line well before 8:00 a.m., your chances of being seen will be slim to none (unless otherwise requested by producer). Even if you are in line before 8:00 a.m., producers cannot guarantee that you will be seen for an audition. Tentative audition cities are Cleveland, Orlando, St. Louis, Washington, D.C., New Orleans, Las Vegas, San Francisco and Anchorage on the dates listed below. THESE LOCATIONS, DATES AND TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. Please continue to check our website at idolonfox.com for the most up-to-date audition schedule.


AUDITION TENTATIVE SCHEDULE:

August 2004:

Cleveland, Ohio
August 3, 2004: No one will be allowed to line up prior to 6:00AM
August 4, 2004: Actual auditions
Location: Cleveland Browns Stadium
Line up info: The line will begin on the North Patio (off West 3rd Street)
Address: 100 Alfred Lerner Way, Cleveland, Ohio 44114
Parking Info: Parking is available at the West 3rd Street Lot for $2 per vehicle. No in and out privileges.

St. Louis, Missouri
August 7, 2004: No one will be allowed to line up prior to 6:00AM
August 8, 2004: Actual Auditions
Location: Edward Jones Dome
Address: America's Center/Edward Jones Dome, 701 Convention Plaza, St. Louis, Missouri 63101
Line up info: The entrance at which the line will begin is Entry B (located at Broadway Ave. and Convention Plaza). The address of the Dome is 901 N. Broadway.
Parking Info: Parking structures surround the Dome. Location and prices vary. No in and out privileges.


Washington, D.C.
August 17, 2004: No one will be allowed to line up prior to 6:00AM
August 18, 2004: Actual Auditions
Location: Washington Convention Center
Line up info: The line will begin at 801 Mount Vernon Place which is the front of the
Washington Convention Center building.
Address: 801 Mount Vernon Place NW, Washington, DC 20001
Food and Beverage will be available for sale. COOLERS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED INSIDE THE BUILDING.
Parking Info: Public transportation information is available at www.metropendoors.com. Parking structures surround the Convention Center. Location and prices vary. Parking will be available at RFK Stadium beginning at 5:00AM on Monday, August 16th.
The parking fee will be $5.00.
As a courtesy, in addition to the METRO which stops at both RFK Stadium and Washington DC Conventions Center, AIPI will be providing a shuttle service hourly throughout the entire event.


Orlando, Florida
Due to the recent weather in Florida, the final round of Orlando Auditions has been postponed. Those contestants who have been selected will be contacted as to when and where we will hold the final round.
August 25, 2004: No one will be allowed to line up prior to 6:00AM
August 26, 2004: Actual Auditions
Location: Orange County Convention Center
Line up info: The line will begin at the E/F Lobby of the West Concourse/ West Building
Address: 9800 International Drive, Orlando, FL 32819
Parking Info: Located in the rear of the building, $10/vehicle; $5/vehicle for Florida
Residents. No in and out privileges.


New Orleans, Louisiana
August 30, 2004: No one will be allowed to line up prior to 6:00AM
August 31, 2004: Actual Auditions
Location: Louisiana Superdome
Address: Louisiana Superdome, 1500 Sugar Bowl Drive, New Orleans, LA 70112
Line up info: The line will begin at Gate A on the Plaza Level Exterior. Gate A Plaza
(One level above the Ground) is located in the front of the Superdome (Sugar Bowl Drive).
Parking Info: Parking is available at Southwest Garage (#5) of the Superdome. $10 per vehicle. No in and out privileges.


Las Vegas, Nevada (please note new venue)
September 11, 2004: No one will be allowed to line up prior to 6:00AM
September 12, 2004: Actual Auditions
Location: THE ORLEANS ARENA
Address: 4500 West Tropicana Ave. Las Vegas, NV 89103
Line up info:
* Line will begin at the Southwest Entrance.
* Free parking available on site near Southwest entrance
* You will need two forms of I.D. with you at all times.
* Only 1 guest per auditioner will be allowed and that person must be present with you when you enter the line.
* Auditioners under the age of 18 must be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian at all times.
* No one under the age of 13 will be allowed to stay the night. No exceptions.
* You will be able to leave and return at a predetermined time once you have your wristband and seat. We will give complete instructions at the Arena.

* The following will NOT be allowed into the Arena
* No Coolers
* No Tents
* No Alcohol
* No drugs

* The following will be allowed into the building:
* Backpacks
* Blankets
* Foldable chairs only.
* Pillows

* A small amount of non-perishable food will be allowed per contestant. Limited concessions will be available at the Arena.



Anchorage, Alaska
Due to schedule changes, the Anchorage, Alaska audition (9/28/04) has been cancelled.


San Francisco, California
October 4, 2004: No one will be allowed to line up prior to 6:00AM
October 5, 2004: Actual Auditions
Location: Cow Palace
Address: 2600 Geneva Avenue, Daly City, CA 94014
Line up info: The line will form in the Main Lot
Parking info: The South Lot
No parking fee will be charged. In and out privileges allowed.
No Tents. No Coolers. FOLDING, PORTABLE chairs ONLY!!! No outside food or beverages inside the Cow Palace. A small suitcase, music case or backpack will be allowed, however they will be subject to search and contents should be specific items needed for participation in the audition.


What to Bring to the Auditions: Two forms of identification that show proof of your age and a photograph (for example, a birth certificate and driver's license or a birth certificate and a passport or a birth certificate and a school ID card). If you are under 18 years of age, you must be accompanied by your parent or legal guardian. If you are accompanied by a legal guardian (as opposed to a parent), your legal guardian must bring proof of guardianship. Print out and sign the release form provided at idolonfox.com. Release forms will also be available at the audition venue.

What to Wear to the Auditions: Please do not wear any clothing items revealing any tattoos, bearing designer, sports or any other logos or brand names, or bearing the name or likeness of a celebrity, living or dead. If you do wear such clothing, you may be required to remove it or turn it inside out or put on additional clothing.

What to Sing at the Auditions: Be prepared to sing a cappella (without music) a song of your choice. If you are called back for the first recall, you may be asked to sing two songs a cappella. One song must be selected from a list that will be provided to you by the producer prior to the first recall and the other song, if requested by producer, may be a song of your choice. All rules and procedures are subject to change at producer's sole and absolute discretion.

Rules In Line: You MUST be in line by 8:00 a.m. on the first audition day in your city. Even if you are in line by 8:00 a.m., there is no guarantee that you will be seen for an audition. Producers reserve the right to audition people out of order of their place in line. Due to space limitations, please do not bring more than two people to the audition with you who will not also be auditioning; however, you should be aware that ONLY ONE FRIEND OR FAMILY MEMBER in addition to the person being auditioned will be admitted into the interior of the stadium. Also, no one under the age of 13 will be allowed to camp out overnight at any venue. PLEASE BE COURTEOUS TO OTHER PEOPLE IN LINE. Do not cut in line. If we discover that you have cut in front of another person in line, you will be disqualified from the audition process. Also, you may not hold a place in line for another person for an extended period of time.

Wristbands: It is currently anticipated that wristbands, or some other form of identification, will be handed out to those people chosen by the producers to continue in the audition process. IF YOU RECEIVE A WRISTBAND FROM THE PRODUCERS, YOU MUST NOT GIVE THE WRISTBAND TO ANOTHER PERSON. YOU ALSO MUST NOT ACCEPT A WRISTBAND FROM ANYONE OTHER THAN THE PRODUCTION STAFF AND YOU MUST NOT REMOVE YOUR WRISTBAND UNTIL YOU ARE TOLD TO DO SO BY PRODUCER. IF IT IS FOUND THAT YOU RECEIVED YOUR WRISTBAND FROM SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE PRODUCTION STAFF, OR THAT YOUR WRISTBAND HAS BEEN TAMPERED WITH IN ANY MANNER, YOU WILL BE IMMEDIATELY DISQUALIFIED FROM THE AUDITION PROCESS.

Paperwork: You will be required to fill out, sign and agree to all of the terms and conditions of our required forms. Some of the forms will be available on our website at idolonfox.com. Forms will also be available at the audition locations. Any family or friends who come with you to the auditions should also be prepared to sign releases concerning the possible taping and/or recording of their name, likeness, voice, conversation, etc. If you advance in the competition, you will be required to fill out, sign and agree to all of the terms and conditions of additional forms, including a talent management contract, recording contract and merchandising contract. You may also be subject to a thorough background investigation and other examinations, at producer's discretion. If you are under 18 years of age, both you and your parent or legal guardian must sign each of the forms and cooperate in having the forms court approved, if and when requested by producer.

ALL FORMS MUST BE FILLED OUT COMPLETELY AND TRUTHFULLY. IF YOU FAIL TO COMPLETE ANY FORM, GIVE ANY FALSE INFORMATION, OR FAIL TO REVEAL ANY PERTINENT INFORMATION, YOU MAY BE DISQUALIFIED FROM THE AUDITION
PROCESS.

Disqualifications: We reserve the right to disqualify and/or exclude, in our sole and absolute discretion, any individual from any of the auditions for any reason or for no reason at all, including without limitation, violation of any portion of these rules, or tampering with the entry process or the audition process. We also reserve the right to change the rules and procedures at any time. Being chosen to audition and/or compete at any level in the process does NOT ensure that you will be selected to continue to the next stage.

General Conditions: By participating, entrants agree to be bound by these rules and the decisions of the producers, the voting audience, and the panel of judges, which shall be final and binding. Your presence at the auditions, and the presence of your friends, family members, and anyone else accompanying you, constitutes your and their consent and agreement to the recording and use of your and their performance, appearance, name, voice, singing voice, likeness and any musical or sound effects produced by you and/or them for use in connection with any television program, motion picture or the Internet for all purposes (including advertising, marketing, promotion, merchandising and the exploitation of any and all ancillary and subsidiary rights), as the same may be edited, in all media now known or hereafter created, throughout the universe, in perpetuity for no compensation, unless otherwise required by law. If you and/or your friends, family members, or anyone else accompanying you to the audition, do not wish to be photographed, or do not agree with these terms, PLEASE DO NOT AUDITION AND STAY OUT OF THE CAMERA RANGE. Your and/or their failure to do so will be conclusively deemed to be a waiver of any and all claims for invasion of privacy, defamation, etc. All federal, state and local laws apply. Audition dates and locations are subject to change. American Idol Productions, Inc., Fox Broadcasting Company, FremantleMedia, 19 TV Ltd., fox.com, idolonfox.com and the production personnel for the television program, participating television stations, advertising agencies or any person or entity connected with the production, administration or judging of the auditions or the program, or any of their respective parent companies, affiliates, subsidiaries, agents or representatives are not responsible for and shall not be liable for: (i) any failure of transportation, bad directions, or inability for any reason to appear at an audition site or audition or appear before the judging panels; (ii) any injuries, losses or damages of any kind caused by traveling to or from the audition venues, being present at the audition venues, participating in the auditioning process or being selected to or disqualified from continuing in the auditioning process and/or the show; or (iii) any printing, typographical or technological errors in any materials associated with the auditioning process. NO WEAPONS, ALCOHOL OR NON-PRESCRIPTION CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES WILL BE PERMITTED AT ANY AUDITION OR DURING THE COMPETITION




Watching2
Member

07-07-2001

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
You know, if the judges were *required* to sleep with the contestants, we wouldn't have to put up with people like Scott.

ROFLMAO!!!

Gidget
Member

07-28-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 4:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i think the first two of the 12 contestants who get canned (and dont go on the 10 idols tour) should get snatched up by cbs to run the amazing race and guest star on survivor and big brother.

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 4:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
and be guest judges for the final two.