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Archive through April 26, 2005

The TVClubHouse: American Idol/Canadian Idol/Other Talent Shows ARCHIVES: American Idol IV: ABC Expose about Idol (ARCHIVES): Archive through April 26, 2005 users admin

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Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Monday, April 25, 2005 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Fantasia said that she went to the audition, but the maximum number of people had been accepted but she was singing as she left and a security guard overheard her and told the judges they had to listen to her sing. So she was rushed in to an immediate audition and selected to go to Hollywood.
ETA - I did not hear the part about leaving for food. Perhaps she has different versions, long and short.


Prior AI's
AI1 - Kelly had demos, supported herself by doing back up singing and had talked to record producers about contracts but did not want to be who they were looking for, but she was still looking for a job.
Justin was up for understudy in the Lion King on Broadway, had done some demos and sang at parties, not all that professional but I have not seen his resume.
AI2:
Rickey was a backup singer
Ruben was negotiating a record contract for his band
Kim Caldwell was trying to break into anything and had been on Star Search
Clay and Kim L had sung professionally, but had chosen different carreers for stability.
Carmen had years and years of singing lessons and was being groomed to be a performer by her parents, but no experience.

AI3 - Here is where the professionals start piling on.
Jen Hudson - sung on a cruise ship
LaToya had a band
Fantasia appeared on her family CD and on a compilation CD, sang in small clubs and wanted music as a career.
Diana was professional since her childhood, she toured every summer as an opening act
John Stevens did not have a record contract but he had done professional singing, including appearing before the Pope.
Jasmine had done something, but I cnanot remember what.

AI4
Bands - Bo, Connie, Carrie, Anwar
Singing in clubs - Anthony, Nikki, Nadia
Theater - Connie, Nadia
Occaisionally sings professionally - Scott, Jennifer
Breast enhancement to get a career - Mikalah (she was not living in Las Vegas for nothing.

AI was never an amateur show, but now with older more experienced people, they don't seem as hungry for the big break and that might make them hard for 19 to handle because they are more likely to say no.

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Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Monday, April 25, 2005 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I kind of like the concept of the older people being allowed in, because they are people who have been trying to get into musical careers and who have been kicked around by the system a little bit. They should, in theory, be more appreciative than someone being supported by their parents or still in school. (Fantasia being the obvious prior exception, I think she has had enough grief to be truly grateful.)


Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, April 25, 2005 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes, Alisons, the story you heard about Fantasia is the only one I heard and I am *quite* the Fantasia fan. fantasia has been perfectly consistent about it, but I guess people are free to make up other narratives as they see fit.

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Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, April 25, 2005 - 11:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Most people who have aspired to have a singing career have been doing it professionally or semi-professionally - in one form of the other - for years before they make it to this level. It is a hard profession to break into and I have no problem with using whatever means necessary to do so. I just wish that I had the talent and ambition to try something like this...at my greatly advanced age I would appreciate it so much more than these young kids...LOL!

So I'll just be happy singing in church.

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Monday, April 25, 2005 - 3:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
There is an official date for the special:

ABC Prepping 'Idol' Expose ... "The network has scheduled a special edition of "Primetime Live" for 10 p.m. ET Wednesday, May 4, dealing entirely with FOX's hit music competition. The special, which pre-empts "Eyes" for the night, will air a half-hour after "Idol's" results show trims the field of finalists to five singers....."

STORY LINK

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Monday, April 25, 2005 - 4:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Er - won't the May 4 show trim the field to FOUR singers?

Babyboo
Member

06-16-2003

Monday, April 25, 2005 - 5:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Paula got lucky, Corey is Hot.

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have no problem with the contestants having a band, doing back up singing or other professional gigs. Anyone with enough talent to make the final cut has to be doing something with their skills and passion. It makes no sense that they would not. Many kids put together bands and do weddings and any gig they can get.

I really doubt that there is anything in this expose that will make me like this show less.

The only problem I have is the dynamic changing with the judges. Other than that, all is fine with me. All reality shows are guilty of hand picking a few players. Big Brother, Survivor and probably the Apprentice, as well. They are creating an entertainment show. And so is ABC with this expose! Bring it on.

Roxip
Member

01-29-2004

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 8:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Whatever the facts they may or may have not unearthed, ABC has guaranteed that they will have a huge audience for this show with all this buzz...wouldn't it be funny if all they turned up was rumor and speculation - nothing proved?

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 8:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Paula did sleep with Corey after he was removed from the show. Probably not a good move but nothing that would effect the results. It is also rumored that she gave him or was going to give him 2 million to fund his career. Very unlikely but she can throw her money to whomever she chooses.



Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 8:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Roxip, I think it will be exactly that. Dateline, Primetime and 60 minutes, the grandfather of them all, have always had exposes at the core of their programing. They are adept at planting seeds but never accusing directly and escape law suits.

This could easily help AI if you believe the wisdom, any publicity is good.


Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 9:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Did anyone catch the commercial for this exposé last night on ABC???

Hobbs
Member

08-05-2002

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Now Drudge is reporting that FOX is threatening ABC is they run the show. Drudge does not allow reposts so here's the link to drudge.

Bonzacat
Member

07-08-2003

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Very interesting Drudge stuff. You know, with AI now in season 4 it was bound to happen eventually - that there would be enough "losing contestants" to interview who could say negative things about the show, the judges, the process, etc.

If the Prime Time Live show hinges on their information, they better be credible. Anyone looking to simply extend their 15 minutes or sell a book will just make this all look like an Enquirer cover at the newsstand.

We shall see, eh?

Sassynegal
Member

01-21-2005

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Don't you think there is a little corruptness (or manipulation) in all reality shows?? They want the ratings so they tweak things as needed to get them.

As for the who's slept with who crap that's as boring and overplayed as all of Hollywood is these days - get over it - you were a toy you got a piece now grow up and move on.


Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Sassynegal. I like the show and don't care how the contestants got there or who slept with who. Having said that, I want to know the scoop so they better NOT squelch ABC's efforts to give us some fabulous dirt!

I am certainly not going to be outraged at anything. This is TV and pure entertainment.

Bonzacat
Member

07-08-2003

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Agreed, Sassy & Fruit. No one was held captive and forced to do anything against their will. They were given great opportunities, had a lot of fun (which is the "scoop" - fun? how much?) and are receiving lots of publicity.

And you know what they say about publicity.....

Sassynegal
Member

01-21-2005

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree that Fox better not squelch ABC's effort - freedom of speech right??

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
freedom of speech only goes so far, though. If ABC is using slander, or any other tactic that can get it sued, then there is a limit. Yes, ABC has the right to air the show, but if they accuse anyone of anything wrong, they'd better have the proof to back it up.

Bonzacat
Member

07-08-2003

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just saw the ABC ad for Prime Time. It says, "American Idol is about to get rocked with a bombshell claim that is so shocking, you'll never watch it the same way again".

It's easy to report the "claims" - but do they have evidence to support the claims? Time will tell. As Ladytex says, they better have the proof to back it up.

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This is such a man's world.

Years and years of "casting couch" auditions, and who gets called on the carpet? Paula - flipping - ABDUL???

Give me a break!

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 11:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well I personally am looking forward to watching tonights show as Scott, Andrew, Bo and Constantine get up to sing. A little voice in my head will be asking "did she or didn't she?"

Bonzacat
Member

07-08-2003

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 11:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL, Maris! "Only her hairdresser knows for sure!"

Wait, that's not right........... Her Doctor?

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maris, only the GUYS? You are obviously NOT the Debbil!

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
She is a switch hitter? well now!!!!!